The WORST MOVE for EVERY CHARACTER | Part 2 - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

[@JoeKSmashBros]

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[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

I know this is super late, but toon links dair is a great on stage kill option and, as a floaty character, gives him an extra landing mixup that, combined with bombs, makes him have little trouble landing. His forward smash, on the other hand, is terrible. Doesn't kill, bad startup and end lag, and poor hitbox. Up smash has no sourspot making it better than f smash in most ways.

[@joeshmoe9302]

Not sure if this video was late for the 4.0.0 patch, but they fixed mewtwo's tail.

[@michaelbesser5348]

In case you ever make a part 3, I think we all should know what Joker's worst move is. If anyone has found a reason to use Joker's aerial spinning gun (the upwards one), let me know, because it seems laughably bad.

[@alolamao833]

Villager always spikes with turnips, RNG only determines the strength.

[@loganprasch7115]

Was just about to comment this myself

[@lukass1727]

Also "down smash doesn't really lead into anything... except forward smash" LOL

[@destructoWizard]

@@lukass1727 Ikr sheesh, if we want to talk about bad smash attacks for him its up smash, barely leads to anything and it doesnt even do ANY KNOCKBACK OR DAMAGE LIKE SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL.

[@colingamer5073]

@@destructoWizard Umm, All of villagers attacks (other than neutral b and up b) deal damage.

[@cabbage164]

Sonic's worst move is his final smash

[@aidenbar511]

That’s not even a joke that’s 100% true.

[@TheIceManSSB2001]

"Now I'll show you! Heeaaaauuuuuggggghhhhhh"

[@papersonic9941]

How the mighty have fallen. If I time travelled and told my Brawl-playing self "Sonic's FS sucks and Peach's is broken" he'd be shocked.

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

Cabbage The 18th Oh my, I wanna go back to Brawl now.

[@TheIceManSSB2001]

Federico Porcel If I was to go back to my Brawl self, I'd simply tell him to quit playing against CPU's and to invest in the competitive community

[@tommasorinaldi9196]

As a DDD main, Jet Hammer is actually good in the ledgetrap scenario, where the king is great: is basically a F-Smash, but you can move around and it hits below the ledge. Together with Gordo is actually pretty scary.

[@0Sloppenheimer]

I hope Mac aerials get buff So he doesn't have to rely on spaming smash attacks That's so boring and anoying

[@lauratarantino2894]

roberto ramirez leon have you seen patch 4.0?

[@misfortunecookie4362]

AwesomeGuy 007 they nerfed him.

[@0Sloppenheimer]

@@lauratarantino2894 of course I see the patch note F for the dream land

[@0Sloppenheimer]

@@misfortunecookie4362 hopefully He get buff in 4.1.0

[@MrGameguyC]

How bout an actual grab game...

[@PascalTyranitar]

Wolf's jab is definitely his worst move. There are quite few circumstances in which you would use jab over pretty mich anything else. I mean, you have his down-tilt, which comes out only 1 frame later, but has much better horizontal range, can trip at lower percents, and can tech-chase or be used to 2-frame or edge-guard at higher percents. There's just almost no reason to ever use his jab.

[@posthistoricdino422]

You use Wolf's jab when you want to quickly attack/punish your opponent but you forgot about every other move so you just smack A out of panic. That's how I use it, at least.

[@PascalTyranitar]

Yeah, it basically serves the same purpose as most jabs in this game.

[@Integral_RoA]

"You should almost never use Dedede's down b." This won't stop me because I can't read!

[@Mernusify]

Dedede's jet hammer isn't that bad. It is most used for gordo setups and ledgetraps, BUT there's one thing that it does best, and that is, baiting and punishing whiffed counters. Also, it can hit under the ledge!!! You'd be surprised at how many people who play FE swordies/Palu/Mac, etc (anyone with a counter move) fall for that EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. They pull out the counter once you get close with the jet hammer, and it's so easily punishable.

[@TheGamePixelz]

Dedede dair is way worse than down b

[@popo-cf5mh]

@@TheGamePixelz I second this. It's better to use down b from above than this.

[@milangiroux]

@@bolt_beam it outranges gannons fsmash doe 😳😳

[@destructoWizard]

​@@bolt_beam FSmash is great for ledge trapping since it covers much more area and does way more damage at ledge with a gordo. Worst move is nair for sure. Does barely any damage or knockback, pretty bad combo tool, easily punishable with lots of end lag.

[@cha0sleader]

As a Lucario main, I have to contest Lucario's worst move, hard. Lucario's Dtilt is actually pretty damn great. It's a relatively low-risk poke with good reach and good frame data. Depending on Aura and opponent's damange, Dtilt will true combo into Short-hop Fair, Ftilt or Dash attack (which, for a character that doesn't really have much of a combo/string game, is pretty handy). If you have to pick a "worst" move for Lucario, I'd be more inclined to suggest Lucario's jab combo, maybe Ftilt in a distant second. I don't really feel like Lucario's jab is "bad", but is a bit underwhelming and has limited utility compared to the rest of Lucario's kit and other characters' jab options.

[@YangyChaddyDad]

I came to the comments looking for this

[@anasazilespider5574]

i think its counter, ik counters are outlawed but lucario's is a special kind of bad

[@cha0sleader]

@@anasazilespider5574 What do you find so especially bad about it? I for one have found Lucario's Double Team to be really handy, if a bit unwieldy at first. I go into some of the finer details of the moves here: smashboards.com/threads/aura-gym-the-ultimate-players-guide-to-lucario-w-i-p.466160/post-22855730

[@bootieos7701]

Lucario's jab takes a millenium to go to shield after the first hit. Just saying.

[@DrWahoo-xy1bn]

cha0sleader wait you people exist

[@JB_CY]

Yo that tail gotted buffed, still bad, but it's a start. I'd also say his grab cause no combos and the range is deceptively short

[@mms7328]

specifically down throw that move is boo boo useless

[@tajwolf23]

I mean dtrow is bad. But back and up are good kill throws and fthrow can kill if all the shadoe balls land at the right percent

[@someoneimportant2517]

His tail can actually be used to start some small combos. Especially his down and up tilt.

[@tobiaszeller4323]

All his throws do good damage and down throw leads to follow ups on reaction

[@kiaghezel-ayagh9099]

UMad OrNah the hurtbox, not the hit box, was reduced

[@Nobody134]

“You could say Lucario’s counter” *Shows a clip of the counter being used effectively*

[@ZejnMikail]

Bruh moment

[@christiandiaz]

ZSS’s down tilt can combo from nair into fair at lower percents, and into up air at mid percents. I’d say her worst move is actually f smash, there’s literally no reason to ever use it. DDD’s down special can 2 frame people on the ledge.

[@greatbrandini3967]

Agreed, f smash on ZSS is just depressing. Even charging it into a buried enemy is worse than boost kick

[@LoZFierceDeityLink]

I agree! It's a pitiful move for this great character. Slow startup, people can fall out of the multi hit (IT'S TWO HITS JFC) it's got a bunch of endlag and it typically kills at percents where boost kick, back air, side b, and probably up air as well would have gotten the KO already maybe 20% earlier at BEST. I would say it probably kills before up throw would, but not by much. It looks so cool! Just wish it was useful

[@TJ-gj4ic]

Man forgot that G&W up tilt exists. Side B has many different effects, only 3/10 results are bad.

[@chilly2126]

Up tilt can actually lead to kill confirms, it can rack up LOTS of damage with combos out of it and it comes out pretty fast. I do agree that side b is not the worst move though. I'd say fair or up air.

[@chilly2126]

Also g&w getting a 3 is not bad. It breaks 7/8 of a sheild

[@TJ-gj4ic]

@@chilly2126 I always found the knockback angle a bit to weird to follow up on, especially at higher percents if you have to waste a double jump to follow up, or if you're against anybody with decent airspeed. I'd much prefer something like a Villager Up tilt

[@chilly2126]

@@TJ-gj4ic well yeah it isn't good at higher percents but it still is really good at low percents. At least we agree that side b isn't his worst move

[@TJ-gj4ic]

@@chilly2126 Of course! I may be a bad player but G&W Nine got me one of my best replays ever. Wanna see?

[@jaymoloney9126]

Oof as a Wii Fit I am inclined to say you are incorrect sir. Fair is a combo extender due to its long last big hit box. As well as a poke tool off ledge. I also genuinely don’t think she has a bad move just ones that take a bit of practice to hit the right way. Her worst move is probably down tilt but even that is a good move for covering ledge as well as putting people in a tech chase/jab lock situation. Long story short I use Fair a lot to continue Nair set ups after up air won’t hit anymore or as consistently

[@alolamao833]

2:13 I feel like this isn’t a good answer. Yes, Chrom can’t recover well with up b, but the alternative use as an OOS option makes up for that. It’s like saying Ike’s side b isn’t good because it’s not a great attack even though it’s a good recovery tool, or that ZSS down b is bad because it’s hard to hit even though it’s great for recovery, or that any attack is bad because it fails at one thing, even though it succeeds greatly at another.

[@YangyChaddyDad]

But chrom relys on his up b for a recovery in most cases. Seems like a bad comparison even if it was an exaggeration

[@stev7074]

The problem is that Chrom has to rely on it to recover, ZSS could down b to mix up or Ike could use side b as a pretty good horizontal recovery, but Chrom doesn’t have stuff like that and HAS to use his up b. It’s still a great move on stage doing 26% and having armor though.

[@moobs]

@@stev7074 chrom can air dodge to ledge 90% of the time

[@SirEnVo]

While I agree to a degree about G&W side B is inconsistant, his actual worst move is up tilt. Whilst they did improve it so if you hit flag 1 it'll hit into flag 2, it still hasn't fixed it. It's not a good anti air, can't reach the platforms on all legal stages and is very weak. One of his only "bad" moves.

[@peanutbutterpikachu]

Update to patch 4.0 and make the next videos in that context.

[@TaleOfTheToaster]

Been looking forward to this, shame the first entry was literally not even a move AND has been buffed, but the rest seems fair

[@aidenbar511]

I’d go with either disable or grab.

[@kretiver1730]

His tail is still bad, didn't you see how little changed?

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

I'd go with Disable.

[@deluxray9977]

his up smash is very inconsistent, I think it’s actually up smash

[@bambyce]

Pits down b is actually a pretty good landing option. You can move while activated, it protects of every hit and projectile. I would say his worst is up Tilt, because it has a little hitbox, is bad for anti airing and not even a good combo starter.

[@Will-qm5ym]

It got buffed so he is less vulnerable and it combos into up air, I would say up tilt cause his down tilt is better in every way especially in combos

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

Bambyce I agree. I would also argue that Wolf's worst move is jab. It sends you like NOWHERE. It's like Peach/Daisy/Pikachu/Pichu's jabs 2.0.

[@TheIceManSSB2001]

Up tilt has actually been a combo starter even before 4.0, it true combo's into nair at low percents. Still probably his worst move though, too little application

[@Will-qm5ym]

S. Lotus yeah it always was a combo starter and yeah it is one of his worst moves but I would argue f tilt as it has no purpose that an f throw up tilt or down tilt can’t do

[@TheIceManSSB2001]

Will Carpenter At high percents it can kill or at least put offstage and it's decent when pivoted or pivot cancelled, the only reason it's not used is because dash attack is more heavily used. I would say it's not as bad as uptilt.

[@NessMotherBound]

As a Ness and game & watch main Game and watch's side B is better than neutral B also u said that u can use his side B and get 1 every time, that's a lie, U (apparently) cant get the same number twice in a row. U are just as likley to get 9 so...

[@ugfreaddy9108]

actually Game & Watch’s Nair is very useful for juggling I personally think it might be his Fair due to it being so slow doing little damage at come out it does do a lot of damage on explosion it takes it too long for it to explode and it goes away at the slightest touch it dies to fox laser of all things it has too much risk In my opinion for a glass canon character

[@smokz4856]

Neutral b Is for ledge trap

[@Mernusify]

I can agree with Ike's worst move being his Dair; his Eruption (neutral B), side B, and up B aren't bad moves, and they have their uses. I say D3's worst move is his Dair; it comes out a bit too slowly, and half the time, doesn't spike. His down B (jet hammer) isn't the worst; it has its uses too.

[@thesejokesarentfunnyyetthe9522]

Dedede's Dash Attack. C'mon, when does it ever get a chance to be used? But also, yes, his Dair could use some big buffs. Just, buff Dedede to the point of Buff Dedede looking puny in compare.

[@TheGamePixelz]

@@thesejokesarentfunnyyetthe9522 dash attack can hit under the ledge and it goes out really far too to gimp recoveries if you don't have time to set up his other 10 ledge guarding options, its something you can still throw out

[@thesejokesarentfunnyyetthe9522]

Yes, but it's not a move that you're going to get to use often. You're going to get punished *a lot*.

[@astracrits4633]

Henry Bolotov Don’t play D3 so much so I can’t comment, but hard agree on Ike. Neutral B is actually pretty great in some ways-it’s an invaluable ledge-trap against a TON of other characters, especially other heavies that have poor recovery options. Its extremely long range and inability to be reflected make it pretty much always safe to use on ledge against a large amount of characters as long as you space it properly. It also has super armor frames when fully charged, which is nice and can deter punishes. Up-B has decent vertical range, and has that little bit of horizontal reach that Chrom’s doesn’t. It also acts as a sort of pseudo-projectile, making it slightly safer to recover against some characters. In addition, it actually has super armor on its starting frames, meaning that if you time it properly you can use it as a wacky mix-up punish (below stage, it can also stage-spike the opponent while allowing you to recover.) Side-B has excellent horizontal recovery range, and some situational combo potential in the air. It can also cancel out if it hits the opponent, allowing you to deny edge-guarding with an Up-B spike if you’re feeling especially disrespectful. These moves are pretty bad in neutral, but in other situations can be useful in a variety of ways with a little bit of creativity.

[@zacharyhansen8250]

Most spikes are situation as they tend to have slow startup and relatively small hitboxes. It not spiking isn't a problem with the move, the problem is positioning.

[@Khyon521]

Bruh Inklings worst move has GOT to be Side B

[@YourCrazyDolphin]

Slow, unsafe (even on shield- contrary to appearance, you won't get hit when you put your shield down and can retaliate with almost anything), and only buries long enough to kill if already at kill percent... But, it is an amazing recovery. Not only does it keep inkling moving, but she can also jump out of it any time and this doesn't use her jump, so it can even be used in the place of your jump over longer distances or to mix-up your recovery without wasting your double jump.

[@KanSanyara]

Here's what I remember in summary. Down air

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

I'm already gonna guess that Sonic's worst move is up smash. Edit: Oh, I guess it isn't that bad after all!

[@l-legend6792]

Minecraft336 Sonic909 Sonic Up Smash is the worst move!

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

@@l-legend6792 I know! But I was just joking that I thought it was good. But I still think up air is worse.

[@l-legend6792]

Minecraft336 Sonic909 well I am a Sonic main soooo ya.

[@nicholask.8356]

Actually it's kinda useful. It just depends on case scenario...

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

Nicholas Kang But I still think it's bad as it has some end lag meaning that even if you do land it. You still could be open to punish.

[@ridleyhult]

2:49 You actually can't get 2 of the same number in a row so... *Game and Watch confirmed top tier*

[@poralium196]

Little Mac's worst move is jump honestly

[@alejandroespinoza5680]

Little Mac's worst move? His entire Moveset

[@peanutbutterpikachu]

Alejandro Espinoza wrong and if a joke, not funny, didn't laugh

[@jonathansmith6302]

@@peanutbutterpikachu Shut. I laughed.

[@Swag_K1RBY]

Renin is Ready I think he’s referring a meme

[@wienerschnitzel1739]

Little Mac actually has some great moves

[@jonathansmith6302]

@@Swag_K1RBY Yeah I know the meme. Still if so, the reference isn't clear with it not being word for word of the meme.

[@strictlyworse_mk7108]

3:12 you mean the “worst” pretty good move? I’d say Up throw is Meta Knight’s worst move, unless you’re facing Snake, then its an early kill move if timed right.

[@chilly2126]

As a meta knight secondary, it's pretty good.

[@miles6711]

It can lead to some combos at low percent and can kill at high percent. I think that meta knight’s worst move is his up tilt

[@chilly2126]

@@miles6711 I can see what you mean but I personally say down smash is his worst move.

[@WONDERFULINCORPORATED]

dedede’s down b creates a really strong ledge trap game paired with his gordo. it’s a pretty good move

[@olivierbajet8851]

Lol d tilt on Zss can lead to good combos and is an amazing 2 frame option

[@iae8793]

as a Mac main, I can tell you some uses for his aerials. Nair is a suprise combo breaker, and can lead into KO at low percents, fair and bair set up tech chases, uair is a stylish way to confirm into KO sometimes, and dair can jablock

[@aidenbar511]

Cloud’s worst move? Either Up Special, Down Special, or Forward Aerial. Up Special is a mediocre recovery at best, down special charges pathetically slowly, and just playing the game is usually better for limit. Once you reach limit with it, It is a very slow kill move that is completely outclassed by Limit Cross Slash. Fair is just no near as good as Bair, FAir is slower, more situational, almost always weaker, and being able to spike is definitely not enough to make up for it.

[@ideallyinvy]

Wii fit's fair actually has a good amount of combo and kill potential (on both hits), most wii fit players usually point at dtilt as one of their worst moves since it can't kill or combo, it just does decent damage

[@PocketHealer21]

I'm glad the one and only Invy came to the rescue. Our forward air is decent. I use it after an upthrow for good damage and that heel spike is so satisfying.

[@AZ-so9zm]

Preach it man! Wii fit rise up!

[@cephery8482]

Honestly jet hammer isn’t even that bad anymore, super armour on swing at any charge can get some slick punishes, the hitbox is colossal once charged and can come out really fast on release, plus the benefit of just holding it out is just the sheer pressure of holding out a big ‘you die’ flag

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

Pokemon Trainer's Down Special Tier List. High Tier: Squirtle. Turns it into a more viable character! Until it got nerfed. Mid Tier: Charizard. Turns it into a mid tier character. That is getting the Jigglypuff treatment alongside Falco. Low Tier: Ivysaur. Turns it into the worst one out of the bunch. Until it got buffed!

[@fkdksnsncmelsndjdksms1904]

Minecraft336 Sonic909 I’d argue zard has more use than squirtle in Pokémon trainer as a whole

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

@@fkdksnsncmelsndjdksms1904 Maybe you might be right. But this is what it'd be before 4.0.0.

[@Nothavinit00]

As a Wario main, I've made many critical hits with this move easily! Block your opponent, get some clearance QUICKLY, shoulder bash, down Y or Jump Y, and as soon as they hit the ground, down smash for a quick kill.

[@TheLastSliceOfPie]

Wolf's worst move is either down tilt or jab. Not because they're bad but because they're nothing special.

[@thesejokesarentfunnyyetthe9522]

King Dedede's worst move is his Dash Attack. When do you ever see a competitive Dedede use it, except for maybe shield breaks and Gordo setups? There's no use for it and I wish they had pulled a Project M and gave it *some* armor, super or heavy.

[@kkss7064]

Mac d tilt has 3 hit boxes if you hit the innermost hit box you can combo into good killing options like k.o punch or up band up tilt can combo into in self at certain percentages and even though you don’t get side b back after getting hit you can mix up ur recovery better ps even if you did get side b back your were not gonna recover anyway . His aerials though well I guess since his bait is so fast it can stop moves from coming out forward air can gimp bad recoveries same with bair and dair and his up air can combo into up b

[@griffindale5386]

as someone whos mained wii fit since smash 4, there is no way in hell that fair is her worst move. its a great defensive option while retreating and is great for calling out jumps in front of u and is just a good pressure tool. down tilt is prob the worst in my opinion bc it just doesnt have that many good uses

[@loicboyoguenothecanadianze8374]

Yeah, I agree with Wii Fit's down tilt being their worst

[@miles6711]

As a Lucario main, down tilt is actually a pretty good move that can start combo if you grab someone right after or use your nairt, dash attack or fair, it can 2 frame or can be used right after nair to start combos. I’d say his jab is his worst move. It’s just a “go away” type move and doesn’t lead up to anything. Plus it’s pretty much the only Lucario move that can’t kill

[@jalapeno9405]

I think game and watch's worst move should be his fair. You never see this to be useable. For 90% of time this move will never hit opponent. And to of that its projectile. So it can be reflected back to mr game and watch.

[@CaptainWobbs]

I do feel like Little Mac, with the whole “sucks in the air” gimmick, should have all these terrible ground moves buffed. That said, aerial side-b is actually not half bad. When you recover, people’s brains say “Mac + Air = Bad, go edge guard now”. 9 times out of 10, the surprisingly massive hit box of the move just bats them away while Mac gets to recover for free. And also on that note, playing Little Mac has taught me how to recover incredibly unpredictably. Now whenever I play another character, it is almost impossible for the enemy to catch me when I’m coming back to the ledge.

[@misfortunecookie4362]

In my opinion, King K. Rool’s 3 worst moves are as follows: - Side Special: Slow move. Armor doesn’t start up quick enough. Opponents who lack projectiles get combo extensions. Has a stupid animation where he picks it up and places it on his head, interrupting other moves. Second hit when coming back is too predictable and can be dodged, shielded, or parried easily. - Dash Attack: Very laggy. Lacks a hitbox when he flops on the ground. - Up Smash: Again, very laggy move. Tiny hitbox while planking. Not a good follow up to most of his other moves. Best time to use it is after down throw, but you have to hope your opponent is bad at mashing.

[@pranker199171]

I really wonder what's Mario's for me it might be uptilt since it's not really used for combos anymore

[@shieldlesscap6124]

For Ken, worst move is either Jab or Air Tatsu, and nothing else even comes close; For Jab, if you cancel the first hit, you don’t get any true combos off of it (or at least nothing that can extend). For the second hit, Tatsu is true, but CK, his main true combo extender, isn’t true because Jab 2 doesn’t have enough hitstun. For the third hit, not only does the move kill later than the first hit of CK (525 vs. 535), but it can’t even start tech chases, because the opponent can use an aerial or jump exactly one frame before they land no matter what %. Add 2 frames of hitstun on every hit and this becomes an ok move. For Tatsu, the move has intangibility on his legs that doesn’t actually work (it’s supposed to help him get in on projectiles, Ryu has the same thing), the move has so much endlag that you die if you accidentally use it a couple pixels too low to sweetspot the ledge without a double jump, and the move is - on hit.

[@PhoenixKnight777]

If Game&Watch’s side B is “inconsistency the move”, Hero is “inconsistency the character”

[@YoungshoesTY]

thats exactly what hero is

[@redcascade8630]

Mewtwo's worst move is disable. I usually forget it exits when playing Mewtwo.

[@brandonaraya4132]

It's not even that bad...

[@TheIceManSSB2001]

It's not that bad though, it's a good mixup. Down throw is worse because it has no follow ups and no utility

[@andynelson323]

You should use it more. It’s a super good punish for missed smash attacks, sometimes good out of a perfect shield, and surprises people if you use it on the ledge.

[@accentedh3131]

You CANNOT always get ones with G&W as you cannot roll the same number twice in a row

[@CCuppy29]

Hello, long time Pit main here, Pit’s worst move is likely not his down b, having a reflector is amazing and with the reduced endlag in Ultimate it can be used with a b reverse to mix up and cover your landings. His worst move probably is his ftilt, this move comes out on frame 10, same as fsmash, however it’s just as safe, has worse killpower, and worse range, the tipper is really small too.

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

Why can’t sonic have his spring up air kill move like in smash 4 that’s what gave sonic a little bit of hype in smash 4?

[@alolamao833]

Because giving the fastest character in the game a kill confirm off of a throw is an awful idea

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

Alolamao then again it requires a specific percentage and that if sonic won’t get any kill options the throw kill confirm is a good idea imo

[@monsterhunterdude569]

For roy I'd say backthrow. I mesn what does it even do. The combination of the angle and knockback strength makes a move that you'd only use because it goes slighty backwards.

[@happyboy7860]

I think GW’s worst move is up tilt. It’s weak, doesn’t do much knockback, doesn’t combo, doesn’t kill, hard to position yourself fast to get both hits. People can escape after the first hit. I feel like side tilt does its job much better

[@agatino1746]

Lucario's ftilt can open into combos and also dtilt>bair that is a kill confirm, so...ftilt is definetly his worst move

[@tylerzelanick9283]

You he actually said that PELLET is Megamans WORST move... I can't even

[@naeonixion]

I was surprised too. It is so noncommittal and you can jump to avoid things in the middle of it! That is kinda busted! I think Mega's worst move is actually his grab, since you can't really get anything off of it past down throw at low percents.

[@SharKing319]

So true about the tail, but if I had to pick an actual move for Mewtwo, I'd have to say Disable. Yes, the potential reward is huge, but it comes out slow (frame 16), it has short range (a bit better than in Smash 4, but not by much), and it only works if the opponent is grounded and facing you, making it very situational.

[@lehacreportr8238]

A concept I always had for a replacement for ddd's down b is what if they still used the transformed rocket hammer, but instead Ddd uses it to slam the ground and create a massive shockwave in front of him about half the size of battlefield which also two frames, and if u hit the sweet spot, being the hammer itself, it kills early

[@L00D__]

12:26 A move worse than that would probably be Crash Bomber, it's somewhat situational, it can be stuck back onto you, it can easily be destroyed as it's getting shot. It's really only good for mixing up the opponents options, and the mine effect it has on ledge. It can lead into a shield break if they decide to shield the explosion, you can then uptilt them and if timed right, you pop their shield.

[@thebiggy2014]

Idk If I agree with you on that but we can both agree that lemons are definitely not the worst move

[@anilkarakaya9343]

I dont play him but metaknights jab seems like a worse ftilt. I think pits side b and down b is a tie. Side b is just as BAD. I also hate wii fits fair on a personal level but I saw her dtilt less often, at least fair has some uses. Falcons dtilt is usefull! Not fast but not slow, a grounded kill move with okay range. Its high scaling purely horizontal knockback can set up for edgeguard. Move is also safe when spaced and overall hard to whiff punish.

[@bees3707]

Guardian orbitars is really safe, really fast, has low startup and endlag, and can shield you from ledge pressure. Up tilt is worse because it has little to no follow ups and it has short range.

[@deluxray9977]

Sorry to inform you that the pits’ side b doesn’t actually reflect, it just passes through projectiles without changing the owner. Pit’s down B is one of his best moves in my opinion.

[@Greeds_]

imo zss worst move is fsmash, at least dtilt can combo at really low percents, and ot low profiles... fsmash kills later then up b and up smash if its not on the ledge, and the sweetspot barely ever connects

[@shadownickmatoi362]

Wolf's Jab is definitely his worst move. His recovery isn't that good, but at least you have to respect it. Wolf Jab on the other hand, you get nothing for it, there's nothing threatening about it. It's basically just worse ftilt, so why wouldn't you use that. At least his recovery can kill if you don't edgeguard right, with jab you get nothing.

[@mms7328]

also meta knight's worst move is up tilt. ftilt is really useful as a get off me tool, set-ups up for edeguards rly well, and a consisent combo out of dtilt

[@gatr2897]

Isnt utilt essential for ladder combos tho?

[@eaglest0554]

Greninja and Lucario's counters actually do deserve to be on the list, since you die if you use it in the wrong direction off stage.

[@yoyoguy1st]

Eaglest05 old comment I know but I hate misinformation. Both you can control which direction it sends you, you should never be killing yourself with them. And Lucario’s will home in on you and is based off his aura so you can kill a pikachu at 60% by countering a t-jolt. They’re good but situational like all counters.

[@stupiduser173]

As a dark pit main I feel the need to ask Is side b really the safest off ledge option? Is it? Yeah, that’s what I thought

[@polywow449]

Rosalinas worst move is DEFINITELY not her worst move, probably one of if not her best move. Being able to just completely invalidate any and all projectiles is amazing. Her worst move is side b easily

[@nicholask.8356]

Yo, I'm a Sonic main and I actually agree with up air. It's hitbox is complete garbage, the second hit almost never connects, it juggles though, but that's kinda it. It potentially combos, but you should go with literally any other aerial if you want a combo... (Edit): check out my reply. (Edit): *replys

[@tylerzelanick9283]

Sonics up air is actually one of his best moves you can use it to land and get combos and it does mad damage and knockback

[@nicholask.8356]

@@tylerzelanick9283 well you see, up air is a really bad landing option, and sometimes you can literally land inside the enemy with it and miss both hits because of the gap between them. Also, great damage and knockback? Nuh-uh buddy. Ok, it has descent damage, but not enough to call it "mad damage" and it's knockback is complete trash, admit it. Also, you wanna kill the enemy up top, use n-air, you u-throw, use b/n/f-air, you spindash, use b/f-air/n-special, the enemy is on a platform... JK, u-air is actually an option. But I don't know what it is about u-air, because there's always a better option. you say it's one of his best moves, I don't think so, but don't worry, all of his moves are at least above kinda descent including u-air, so it's common not to notice that, especially when you don't GO ON TRAINING MODE.

[@tylerzelanick9283]

@@nicholask.8356 I mained him back in version 1.0 maybe his moves changed but that's how i remember him

[@nicholask.8356]

@@tylerzelanick9283 don't worry bro, I understand you...

[@tylerzelanick9283]

Hey I tried him in training and I was wrong about the damage and knockback being "mad" but it is desent and there are other great uses for up air

[@jvsaadijahn4298]

I will have to disagree on dedede. Note: i know that it is opinion, but so is mine. Dedede worst move is downair. Its only used for spiking, and compared to other spikes is pretty bad (plus he also has the up b spike which is wayyyyy flashier) . His down b is very good for legde trapping with gordo since it can kill at 60%.

[@RedSkies68V]

Ik he hasn’t gotten to Corrin yet so as a corrin main imma put my opinion in. In my experience I believe Corrins worst move is her up smash. It’s got too small of a hit box and doesn’t go that high up seeing as corrin crouches to use it. Ik people don’t like her down air but I feel it more useful for ledge camping someone who try’s to jump from ledge or attack from ledge. Just my opinion. If anyone else plays corrin lemme know what you guys think is her worst move.

[@yoyoguy1st]

Red I think that’s a contender. I think neutral b is also pretty bad since the projectile is slow, too laggy to act out of and the bite doesn’t have much range. D air may be up there as well but at least that has a use as a risky landing option

[@RedSkies68V]

@@yoyoguy1st yeah but I find more uses for neutral b in edge guarding. I've gotten more kills from neutral b than up smash

[@yoyoguy1st]

Red edge guarding? You mean ledge trapping?

[@MsMinay]

Just a note: Crom doesn’t have that bad of a horizontal recovery. His air speed is insane and his up b has super armor

[@Br1_AV]

Snake's worst move is by far is fair being the slowest aerial in the game at frame 23 Snake d tilt is actually pretty good Frame 6, low profile on frame 1 , amazing range ,safe on shield and does 15%, also it can put enemies into tech situation if there is a platform above

[@sulyco]

Toon link worst move is down smash. The down smash is a bad ground up B. The down air can spike with no kill your self with z drop and you can kill your opponent at 20% on the ledge with a bomb. And you can combo break with down air .

[@am-vw2qk]

DDD’s worst move is dash attack & Zard fair isn’t PT’s worst move, it’s probs squirtle down tilt cause you’ll always go f-tilt and it doesn’t combo start

[@herissmon9878]

Pit side b is his worst move. It is too laggy to be used effectively, while down b has a lot more versatility, specifically when in the air.

[@arcfieri5965]

Rosalina's down b isn't a reflector, it acts more like ness and Lucas's down b in that it is a absorber that allows you to grab items

[@vantage4233]

Lucario’s down smash is worse than his down tilt

[@Ai-jr4ou]

pit's worst move is side B as the reflector is less constant and down B can be used to get out of combos

[@bendriscoll4758]

Honestly megaman actually has an amazing jab and forward tilt considering it's wayyyyy too easy to litter the stage with projectiles. For those who actually do want to main megaman, you need to play the games obviously megaman 2 since most of the specials actually derive from that one game

[@alexpower9173]

For mewtwo every move you mentioned is better than disable. Disable isn't useless, but it is his worst move.

[@Moss_Dude]

I think G&Ws worst move is more forward air. WHY CAN YOU HIT THE BOMB? IT IS TITERALLY THE ONLY BOMB IN ALL OF SMASH HISTORY THAT HITTING WON'T CAUSE IMMEDIATE DEATH. Also villagers down air now spikes regardless of how many turnips you pull.

[@Spark31Gaming]

Chrom dash attack is definitely his worst move. MK jab is definitely his worst move. Wolf's jab is definitely his worst move.

[@l-legend6792]

As a Sonic Main, Sonic worst move is Up Smash.

[@naeonixion]

It's TRUE. That move is balls. Pun kinda intended

[@typical9728]

Bro, you crazy if you think Snake’s D-tilt is worse than his F Smash

[@hedgehugs]

#BuffSonicUpAir2k19 Also Up Smash isn't good either, can't kill for crap anymore and it's already laggy as hell. R.I.P.

[@wienerschnitzel1739]

No one cares Literally no one cares

[@hedgehugs]

Truest Chad No one cares about Sonic's UpAir or his Upsmash? Because literally Henke was asking for UpAir to be more consistent so obviously he cares lol

[@Will-qm5ym]

Truest Chad I care cause I don’t want to be juggled on top of everything else annoying about sonic😂

[@yoshiandtailsfan8797]

Hedgehugs Finally someone else who thinks up smash is bad!

[@nicholask.8356]

No.

[@everyonesaidmynamewasstupi3713]

I main wii fit and her worst move is definitely down smash. It's useful in certain matchups because it sends at a disgusting angle that destroys bad recoveries, but overall it's just really slow and not that strong. Fair is not a bad move. It's a little unintuitive but it can be really good for catching high recoveries and going offstage to edgeguard, not to mention the back hit spike is pretty weak and has an unreasonable amount of hitstun against grounded opponents so it's pretty good for easy kill confirms, since it's weak enough to not make opponents bounce for a while.

[@ComradeVenus]

Plants worst move is grab. Don't you dare say anything else. It's slow and really tiny, and you don't get much reward off of it except for up throw kill at high percents. Every other move is pretty good. (You can mention Bair if you want too, it has so much endlag.)

[@YangyChaddyDad]

Piranha plants worst move his is entire moveset other than his recovery and spike ball

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

Bair is also terribly slow.

[@worldsboss]

Disagree on Toon Link. His back-air is absolutely tiny, clearly meant as a combo tool but doesn’t really combo into or out of anything consistently, and doesn’t even kill until ridiculously high percentages. His down-tilt is also bad, but I’d say back-air is worst.

[@ritchiebrown1519]

2:50 actually u couldn’t get 1’s every time because he can’t get the same number in a row, that’s why people use it again after they get a 9 so that they can reset it Don’t mean to be that guy but yeah :) 😂

[@scrawnysmash9129]

Is anyone else concerned banjo is gonna be like really bad

[@seabassio7126]

yep payback for westerners

[@xavibun]

Yeah, he seems very underwhelming from what I've seen so far, almost as much as Plant.

[@scrawnysmash9129]

XaviSylv I really hope he’s at least mid tier

[@bees3707]

Charizard's fair is frame six, has a ton of knockback, and is a great edgeguard tool.

[@gatr2897]

But that endlag tho... I dont wanna say its his worst move either but... I miss Smash 4

[@redpotion7642]

I'd argue that MK's u-tilt is worse because the hitbox is tricky to land and it doesn't really lead into that much

[@Hayds126]

Lucario d tilt can lead to a grab at low percents

[@mitrimind1027]

I think Meta Knight's down air is his worst one. Doesn't even spike and has a tiny hitbox, and not like it does much damage either.

[@davidosbourne219]

I gotta say, you’re pretty wrong about pit here. The side special usually DEFLECTS, not REFLECTS, with the only few exceptions being ground bound projectiles like Mario’s fireballs or Pikachu and Pichu’s thunderjolt. I wouldn’t say his down special is amazing, but it’s incredibly helpful with matchups like Samus, Wii Fit, Lucario, Mewtwo, Megaman, the Links etc. his worst move is up tilt, because it’s basically a slightly faster up smash, and it doesn’t combo consistently like down tilt, or kill like f tilt. Although it did get a frame data buff in 4.0.0, so who’s to say what his worst move is? All I know is that it’s not his down special

[@dav9612]

these need to be more consistent. Just because you can't pick one move doesn't mean you should default to "his tail" or "his recovery" even mentioning throws is better than that. Wolf's worst move is most likely his jab and Mewtwo it's down throw since it does nothing.

[@sovenate2701]

Can you please do a series of videos where you go over on how to "beat" certain fighters. What I mean is that you have a video with somewhere around 10 fighters and you go over about 2 minutes on each fighter explaining what their weaknesses are, counter picks to those fighters, and what to look out for while fighting them (just a few examples). Greatly would appreciate it cause no one else really has a video(s) covering all the fighters.

[@guy543215]

Great video but I feel you missed some glaringly bad moves Mewtwo: Down B is almost useless, too short ranged Meta knight: forward tilt is a great burst option with a good hit box; his down air is useless because nair does the same but better Villager: down air comes out fast and has a big hitbox that lingers, where as nair has a tiny hitbox and is slow as hell Wii Fit: forward air has great knockback, is super fast, and compliments her great air mobility if you know the hit box! Up tilt literally never hits anything cause the hitbox sucks.

[@Caboose4859]

As a Mac main, his neutral b is almost never used, but are still not as bad as his Aerials, granted.

[@legacy0685]

Lucario’s down tilt is one of is few combo moves, jab is his worst move.

[@Fjunbollen13]

Mega Man has three of the same move for a reason though