The Worst Nightmare For Sonic Movie Haters Happened

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[@SonicHubYT]

If fans are split, but the commercial success is there, what do you do if you are paramount for future SCU projects?

[@melissaholmes5909]

Hi sonichub, will you be able to live stream the first knuckles show episode?

[@user-cg6ql2wl6o]

You can watch that

[@user-cg6ql2wl6o]

I need to watch the 2 episode

[@jocatty1180]

Come to think of it, they already have Sonic 3 coming. YOU'F THINK they'd try to save money for the movie dont you think? While also give content for us all. Knuckles's series was fun. Yes, wished Knuckles was more present, but the movie come out this year. We gotta remember that.

[@rodimcgeesums633]

Don’t let back any punches. Bring out the characters in full force and please for the love of Christ NO PRODUCT PLACEMENT! And no more kiddy cheesy humor. Better dialogue script better storyboarding.

[@Jagger-xe6ur]

The knuckles show is not the worst piece of sonic media.

[@Jagger-xe6ur]

People are wrong about that

[@Niceplayer379]

Your right🤔

[@autismtony2404]

The critiques are full of crap when they say the show was bad.

[@thingsonyoutube1287]

I mean like did they forget about the gba port for sonic 1

[@MinerMario]

It's pretty far from a cinematic masterpiece, but it's a fun watch. The people who say it's the worst piece of Sonic media ever made are being overdramatic.

[@aha2384]

i love this show, the only flaw i have with it is obviously there not being enough knuckles, that's it. i'm just a huge fan of him and desperately want to see more of him in his own show.

[@ooze448]

I think this is enough knuckles to give since people seem happy no need to waste money and put more of him in his own show in the future

[@dbagette]

Or they could've leaned into it and called the show "& Knuckles" so we could be like "I understood that reference"

[@Sonic_Speedy_And_Friends_VR]

Big W that knuckles is the most watched paramount+ show

[@fireddj]

mfs who pirated it:

[@Earth_onbord]

Yeah

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

That's not saying much.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Paramount+ only has two other good shows

[@nokingo10098]

First time Critics and audiences agree on liking something

[@gojifan7976]

well there is godzilla vs kong as well

[@omnipotentowlproductions]

Across the Spiderverse:

[@Mrskits124]

I think that paramount will listen and actually make the sonic movies about the sonic characters because this is the studio that changed the original design for sonic after people said they didn't like it

[@regulator062]

Exactly. People could use a little more faith. Also, Sonic movie 2 showed that the filmmakers care about Sonic characters and lore in how much more faithful it was to the games compared to Sonic movie 1. I suspect their next TV show will follow a similar trajectory.

[@Waderboi2005]

I think knowing Jeff Fowler mainly focused on the Sonic 3 movie and the first episode clearly being the best out of them all goes to show how good Sonic 3 will be

[@demontropolis7742]

I remember the people at Paramount+ saying that they want to introduce more characters from the games with each big installment (Knuckles being a spin-off exclusive to Paramount+, doesn’t count too much with this), and I think that they want to do this slowly over time so they can really make their introductions special (they didn’t really introduce a major Sonic character in the Knuckles show besides Pachacamac, but he’s more or less an extension of Knuckles’ character and conscious).

[@buno7089]

I think the problem is that they’re having trouble finding the perfect voice actor for characters like vector and omega and they also need to create the movie stand in for those characters.Let’s let paramount take there time

[@demontropolis7742]

@@buno7089 I don’t think they’re having trouble choosing the right voice actors. It’d be a bit silly to delay a character’s introduction just because they can’t make up their mind on the right casting, and so far, we’ve had nothing but hits for all the game characters.

[@turbolid]

The seriess expanded more about GUNs story that resolved the loose ends of Sonic 2 regarding GUN and prepared some parts of the story of Sonic 3. Between Sonic and Sonic 2, GUN was a task force created to oversee alien threats to Earth along with Robotnik's menace after his fight with Sonic in San Francisco, but in the post credits scene of Sonic 2, it was strange how GUN had Shadow's file if the experiment happen 50 years ago and GUN was only created recently. The Knuckles series reveals that GUN wasn't created from nothing, but was created from the remains of the Black Ops division especialized in robotics and weaponry that was overseen by the government and was headed by Robotnik, who had in his employment Agent Stone, the Buyer and every black coated men and women who appeared along Robotnik in the first film. After Robotnik's obsession with finding and killing Sonic led to an amount of damage that could expose this Black Ops unit, the government decided to erase Robotnik's files, get rid off everyone who worked with Robotnik, like Stone and the Buyer, and transformed that division and its resources to GUN, so it explains why GUN had Shadow's file because that file was in Robotnik"s Black Ops division first. The show also explains that GUN is now allowing that Sonic, Tails and Knuckles live on Earth under surveillance instead of capturing them, which makes some GUN agents like the two of the Knuckles show go against the organisation, because they see that as a treason to what GUN stands for.

[@Jade-ou8gz]

I think it's for the best, take Forces for example, too many characters and the story wasn't really good enough, I think Paramount is going into the right direction, introducing more characters at a slow pace while also trying to develop their character arc

[@rhysburns5420]

​@@buno7089I honestly think seth rogan would suit vector pretty well

[@artiscralabs3688]

Agent Stone featuring Shadow is gonna go so hard 🔥 🔥 🔥 Can’t wait for Pretzel Lady starring Amy Rose 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@Desiray77]

Wyd here

[@SonicPlayz212]

Sorry bro but Amy won’t be in sonic 3

[@easyscout8369]

I would unironically love an Agent Stone show featuring Gamma or Omega

[@tinkerbestie]

unironically would love a pretzel lady show tbh.

[@RaijinRain]

Idk about these tbh.

[@DanielKariuki-er5gi]

0:40 1. Sonic is a children's franchise. 2. Even a lot of adults liked the childish jokes including me so I don't know what's bad about it being childish I really liked it.

[@OverRazeGamer]

So did I, I give the show a 8.2/10 I thought it was solid, more lengthy episodes is really my complaint, maybe just a tad bit more knuckles but honestly it didn’t really bother me, I had fun with the show. As long as the characters are enjoyable etc I’m okay with it really I am

[@NicheXCC]

You can have it.

[@OverRazeGamer]

@@NicheXCC good I will

[@firemiracle]

Same. Sure it wasn’t a masterpiece but it was still pretty fun to watch. And I loved the dynamic between knuckles and wade, and it was pretty wholesome in seeing knuckles slowly finally accepting the earth as his home. My one complain is that I wish we had more screentime for the villains. They were pretty cool and threatening 😊

[@SBaby]

Tails killed his girlfriend in at least one version of Sonic. You know, in a children's franchise. And let's not forget that a 13 year old girl gets gunned down also.

[@Sculkdude]

I actually really liked the Knuckles series. It was really cool seeing Pachacamac make a cameo appearance too

[@Dreq458]

6:03 If you mean an Agent Stone spin-off that's marketed as a Shadow spin-off, then yes. They'll most definitely do that after Knuckles' success.

[@SonicHubYT]

lmaoooo

[@PeteTheKittyTeamSonic]

To be honest I think it’s great but it’s ashamed that some people still feel angry about it

[@koplopbopthecatsikune9502]

i feel like i'm one of very few people that genuinely loved the knuckles show

[@a.a8173]

Ik same.

[@dmk_yt]

While it's definitely a minority opinion, there are a solid number of people who do actually love the show, myself included

[@FlyingDuckMan360]

@koplopbopthecatsikune9502 I liked it as well. It was definitely better than the last Sonic spin-off, Sonic Prime, but maybe it's just my personal preferences. (I've always preferred the lighter, comedy-based Sonic series like Adventures and Boom over the darker, action-based ones like SatAM, Underground, X, and Prime.)

[@PaxtonPlayz-wg9lf]

Same bro same

[@PaxtonPlayz-wg9lf]

I feel liek the only one

[@Frostzyte]

why was he wearing a super mario shirt. CANCEL HIM!!!

[@M2-cg4fs]

Bro why is everyone trying to cancel someone just because of what they wear. That’s just a new low if ask me.

[@flameblastv5151]

@@M2-cg4fsyeah well, welcome to humans

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

​@@M2-cg4fsmy guy it's just a joke.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

​@@flameblastv5151you're kidding right

[@flameblastv5151]

@@Marvelfanatic3658 if you call humans that sure (of course it’s just a joke). I’m not a robot impersonating a human or anything😊

[@ruffy4444]

Well I don’t have twitter so I guess I’m luckily

[@RoseSupreme]

I'm loving all that the "SCU" (Sonic Cinematic Universe) has to offer so far. I just want more focus on the characters themselves. And for pity's sake: *GIVE US MORE SONIC MUSIC. ENOUGH OF THE GENERIC, FORGETTABLE MOVIE MUSIC. MOVIE/SHOW SOUNDTRACKS DESERVE TO BE MEMORABLE, AND SONIC IS NO DIFFERENT AS MUSIC IS ONE OF ITS MOST STRONGEST AND ICONIC POINTS.*

[@thetemefoxyteam6618]

The Knuckles show was really great, it gave a purpose to Knuckles' character where he had a fully fleshed arc in the 2nd movie and made him as a mentor for Wade. I don't get why sonic fans hate it, the sonic movies are set in another universe where human exist, and the fact that they made a friend ship for Knuckles and Wade is really funny. At the end of the day this show is great, and we need more stuff like this.

[@OddityOfFates]

Honestly, for what it was, the Knuckles show was great, in my opinion. Would I have liked more Knuck? Sure! But honestly, while this gave Wade more screentime, it was a HUGE amount of character development for Knuckles being able to see this journey through in his capacity. I think a show exclusively being Knuckles in this world, without this development that he got, would have been even worse comparatively. He was flat humor, but that's about all he was. Now he's a bit more matured in his role in this world. And I honestly think the human characters are incredibly important to making the Sonic characters thrive. Bringing them in fully developed is going to get stale real quick, and the humans serve as the perfect medium to integrate them into the world they're now a part of. Knuckles now realizes that this is home, and he's all the better for it.

[@OddityOfFates]

Just to add-on to why Just Knuck in the show would have been bad, they'd have to throw a flavor of the week villain that he'd just punch each episode. No depth to it. Especially when he's as powered down as he is, not having the full suite of his capabilities that he has in the games(That I assume they'll slowly give him over time).

[@CMJ06]

THIS IS GOING TO BE A MASSIVE CINEMATIC UNIVERSE WERE GONNA BEAT MARVEL AT THIS RATE!

[@sonicmastersword8080]

Human characters are not bad characters-provided they have a good reason for interacting with Mobians and/or Robotnik type characters. I for one like these humans because it shows how the dynamic of the world is shifting due to the aforementioned's presence.

[@BerryTheFox]

I Feel Bad For Knuckles Series Being Lower Rotten Tomatoes Scores!

[@metalspinda9594]

Good points made all across a non-biased vid debating the real pros and cons potentially moving forward for the franchise! Well done.

[@Sonic24prime]

The knuckles show is my favorite sonic show

[@AnhTaiPhan]

The real question is: What kind of humor the people who hates it like? Because if I remember well we got a decade of absolute awkward and cringe comedy content starting with Sonic Colors and it ultimately made EVERYONE flee that franchise except for that tiny minority who laughed at stupid lines like ''Baldy Mcnosehair'' and ''no copyright can't stop me''. Is this the kind of BS these people are into and if yes, why we'd care about what they think? I know the Sonic franchise very well and to get what is happening you must accept these facts: 1: There are two majors factions that will never get along when we talk about the direction of this franchise; no middle ground is possible. 2: You must always focus on what these criticisms actually imply For example: I bet many of those who say this is a Wade show and yadda yadda are actually rejecting the presence of humans and secretly wish that the SCU leaves earth to explore more owl shit. The SCU has evolved a lot since Sonic 1. The first movie had an insecure vibe in it and is the weakest of the bunch but now we feel they found their mark and i'm glad they are targeting normies. I want Sonic to be cool and fun, the least they talk about owls, the better it is. Keep it grounded and I hope they'll continue their Regular Show humor with a lot of dude bro macho silliness and 80-90s tropes!

[@simba342]

knuckles is a really good show. i seen every episode and enjoyed them all.

[@KaijuArisenFan]

who tf hates the sonic movie

[@sharksbean]

I no longer trust Rotten Tomatoes. I just try to form my own opinion upon seeing any movie or tv show.

[@blackprism5381]

You listen to the feedback at this point that’s the reason why we got the sonic movies and the knuckles so because they listen to feedback listen the only reason that we got a second sonic movie a knuckle so upcoming third sonic movie is because the fans Has shown negative feedback towards the first movie when it came to sonic design after that we got a whole redesigned for sonic and it helped they shouldn’t double down after the knuckles show. They should listen to the feedback and once they listen to the feedback, it will help the progression of this franchise they wanted to work. They’re gonna need to be a little open minded at the same time the fans must be open-minded with what goes on behind the scenes with the production

[@EdenLovesDragonsForSomeReason]

Well, the fans have to be open minded too

[@blackprism5381]

@@EdenLovesDragonsForSomeReason that is very much true

[@nokingo10098]

I have confidence in them. When people were mad about the ugly sonic design,they were listening to feedback and immediately changed the design. I trust them on changing this in the future

[@CrazyManhog]

Usually the first season is eh but the second is good.

[@Sone01TheFirst]

@@CrazyManhog Why can't the first season be good though? Don't settle for mediocre quality.

[@sb14andmore50]

​@@Sone01TheFirstIt's usually because since the series in question is just starting out, it's gonna have a really slow and boring introduction, and later seasons are where the series in question gets good(or gets worse, depends on whoever's writing tbh)

[@phintheplatypusgirl626]

@@Sone01TheFirst isn't settling for mediocrity to like something for being a good first try to be fair. Don't repeat as mantra what some sonic tubers said,the knuckles show made them look like overgrowth kids screaming and acting like "it insulted sonic fans". So much for being 30 years old men...

[@sebastiancendoya7854]

Just for you people to shut u- i mean... Calm down... Much of the writers and directors from the Knuckles show, are not the same as the movies, so i still have a lot of hope for Sonic 3

[@gadci4400]

Interesting this show has gotten a ton of advertisment. I can't go watching a lap of a Formula 1 race without seeing this on a barier of some sort

[@chillihog1543]

Even tho I don't like the Knuckles show that much, still I am glad that it is successful and bring in new audiences. Still hope the Shadow spinoff n other spinoffs ain't like the Knuckles show and actually give fair screentime to the Sonic cast. I don't mind the human cast as long as they don't take up the story n both the human n Sonic character get better development

[@rylanthompson9968]

I can’t wait for sonic 3 and knuckles season two

[@Noah4evaa]

Is anyone gonna tell him

[@KeltkeGH]

I think you meant, Wade the Human season two

[@BigBootyDuty]

@@KeltkeGH Sounds fun to me. If it's good written like the show was, I'll eat it up.

[@Noah4evaa]

@@KeltkeGH 😂😂

[@ZERO10989]

@@KeltkeGHidk given the record they have of listening to fans, I feel like they’d improve a lot if there were to be a season 2 (I highly doubt there will be) and especially if it’s ALL directed by Jeff Fowler instead of the other directors

[@LimeHimself1745]

I feel like critics never truly Know the past or the characters they are Introduced do and only og fans who actually Enjoy these characters like the show but the Critics don’t know the sonic franchise that well I’m pretty sure.

[@rickyronny4019]

Good to see that the Sonic film series is succeeding

[@MetroJet2000]

I loved the Knuckles show! 👍 2:04 Damn right we came out in full force!

[@Ragiroth]

Maybe this is wishful thinking, but perhaps the reason Knuckles wasn't in it as much as Wade, is because of CGI budget. Perhaps with this doing well, the next Sonic show, will feature Knuckles (or whoever) more prominently with a higher budget. Also Idris (or should I say IBLIS *budumtish*) Elba is probably bigger than any of the other actors in the film, so he's probably more expensive to. Thought I heard a rumor the 3rd movie will feature the Sonic characters more. So if that's true and movie 3 does great, maybe that'll also help Paramount realize that more people want the Sonic characters.

[@renderdistance0]

Paramount listens to the community so in the future maybe they would make the spin offs and later seasons focusing on the actual sonic characters. And the haters would be pleased... Ig

[@PokeX14-ih8nv]

Haters can’t be pleased

[@ZealousFoX23]

@@PokeX14-ih8nv Even if in the future Paramount + SEGA were to throw them a bone, they'd still complain as it isn't "enough" of a bone. That's why stuff like Sam crying on camera is the most fake and actually pathetic reaction towards a TV show. God not even Halo fans cried at the Halo show. I don't want to knock on Sam, but he opened himself up for criticism. At this point I personally think with Sonic 3 he and a few others should be barred from the blue/red carpet (or whatever color they decide to go with) this time around. Instead invite people and fans who are actually passionate and truly appreciate the Sonic Cinematic content, including Knuckles. Because at this point a number of "fans" are just grifting and thinking they can twist the series a certain way while acting like they aren't trying to force things. (but then make a big emotional cry scene in hopes crocodile tears get them somewhere)

[@sb14andmore50]

​@@PokeX14-ih8nvThe Sonic fandom in general can't be pleased

[@sr.palit0]

I think it's a 6 out of 10 show, not as good as the movies, but not as bad as people say about it, it's fun

[@Jade-ou8gz]

W for the Knuckles series!

[@Morales3088]

A shadow spin off exploring on either the sonic 06 lore or the Black arms lore would be awsome

[@crimsonstormsurge]

I loved the knuckles show. Do I want say a shadow show to have a super serious tone yes but not every spin off has to be the same thing so if they did a wide variety of different projects with different tones themes characters etc I’d be sooooooooooooooooo down

[@kyperactive]

*No one uses Paramount Plus, so this is not that surprising. Only people who did likely got it just to see this, or were already fans and just so happened to have accounts. Its a nice stat, but need I remind you all of Velma and how it got a number one debut? That was solely due to there being nothing worthwhile on the platform with the cartoon purge they had, so it gassed up the figures. Same deal here, minus purging, and simply a case of a lack of interesting stuff on Paramount to choose from otherwise.

[@DMFroomer]

If you think Knuckles is the worst piece of Sonic media, boy do I have a certain Ken Penders to introduce you to.

[@Tfprime84]

first idk why ppl hate the knuckles show so much because it is a well written show with good characters(besides wades sister) and humor, yes knuckles not getting half the screen time is a problem. second why do ppl think the sonic movies are screwed just cuz knuckles was successful, frontiers was the most successful 3d sonic game ever and the devs still took to the criticism the game received. but ye knuckles is a bit overhated imo

[@Uesr2004D]

The first episode was so good at that moment, but now the problem is that it's starting about Wade. People were not happy about this. That's why fans are starting to hate the show, they writers made wade Stole knuckles Spotlight. They were focus on him to the story.

[@3DoublePoint]

​@@Uesr2004DThey either said the main complaint was not enough knuckles showed his screen time.

[@Uesr2004D]

@@3DoublePointExactly, fans expected to have knuckles focus story character development arc like more backstory to master emerald his relationship to echidnas and lore.

[@DC60770]

I don't think the sonic movie is screwed just because of knuckles being successful. They were starting to worry and scared about sonic movie 3 to be ended up on knuckles Show.

[@Tfprime84]

@@Uesr2004D i understand what you're saying but is that really warrant to dub this show the worst piece of media to come out of the franchise? The screen time was an issue and i'm not going to pretend it's not. wade shouldn't be the main character in a show titled Knuckles. but i feel the issue is a bit overblown because at it's core, it a fun well written show.

[@sonicthemusicianwarrior418]

I loved the knuckles show but i think that Jeff fowler is the best director and this proves it cuz like episode one focused on knuckles sonic tails pachacamac but I understand that he couldn't for sonic movie 3 but that just means sonic movie 3 is gonna be the biggest W (which no one was doubting btw) ❤

[@SBaby]

0:43 - By the way, there was more swearing in the Knuckles miniseries than there was in both the first two Sonic movies combined.

[@Mr.WheeIer]

Honestly people i feel like people especially us sonic fans are always trying to complain and say almost everything is bad. Just because yall dont like doesnt mean everyone else is supposed to hate it. Just enjoy things as they are and appreciate that we are even getting a show as the first movie could've been only movie thing we got.

[@segabest1991]

It was incredible an the shadow at earth is huge detail

[@kahboom76]

Knuckles series may not be the worst in the franchise, but it may win at the most divisive since can’t think of anything else with this much positive/negative reception. Regardless, can we all at least appreciate that Sonic seems to continue being in a good place among audiences?

[@ZealousFoX23]

Sonic Prime...

[@NostalgicShadow]

Thank God I don't use Twitter anymore

[@TsuriaDragon]

Same

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Ok

[@Leafpotato1]

My only problem if the knuckles show is there’s too many humans and not enough of sonic characters

[@deninjasolinap6069]

let them cry. It doesn't matter anyways. it is a kids movie after all.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Cringe

[@deninjasolinap6069]

Lol

[@imperfectmyst]

For me i look at the knuckles show for what it is rather than having expectations for it cause setting yourself for disappointment as alot of people are expressing i wasent expecting anything ground breaking heck i can tolerate wade some layers of the show i didnt agree with but it happend Its like my issue with sonic prime though it had great ideas on paper but in terms of execution i think felt mishandled

[@beastinator456]

I liked the knuckles show...but being number 1 on paramount isn't a huge accomplishment since nobody uses it

[@atavious2491]

Human characters were a thing in the video games you know?

[@FlyingDuckMan360]

I personally thought that Knuckles (2024) was better than the last Sonic spin-off, Sonic Prime. For one thing, Knuckles is set in the continuity of the movies and doesn't try to claim it's canon to the games the way Prime did (it didn't help that Prime's incarnation of Sonic was a huge step down from his video game counterpart). Also, I wasn't worked up over Knuckles ending on a cliffhanger the way every previous Sonic spin-off did since it was an interquel series, and to my surprise, it didn't end on a cliffhanger. Yes, Sonic and Tails are only featured in the beginning of the first episode, but hey, the spin-off is called Knuckles for a reason. I think my favorite episode of Knuckles is the fourth one, "The Flames of Disaster" because of the dream sequence where there's a musical about Knuckles' life story with Wade dressed in a Knuckles costume, and after said sequence, Wade wins against his captor, Jack Sinclair, in a joust. As Knuckles is rated TV-PG, it does contain some mild language, so it's more for longtime fans like myself than newcomers. I also enjoyed the mythology gags, namely Knuckles' cowboy hat from the OVA movie. To quote Comic Book Guy at the end of The Simpson's 20th Anniversary Special in 3D on Ice, "I liked it."

[@RiderSentaiKamenger-hu5yl]

This guy completely gets it.

[@Hedgie3]

I believe that they will obviously try to make the Shadow spin-off be better when the time to do that comes, because don't forget that Jeff Fowler is a major fan of that Ultimate Lifeform hedgehog, so it's easy to believe that he will not shy away from directing every episode and from making sure that more effort will be put into the production of that film. So as someone else replied when I commented this at a different channel: He will make that show his own baby! So I don't think that we will have to worry about that spin-off.

[@Schwoomy]

ppl doubting that this was the most streamed show on Paramount+, regardless of what you think of the show itself, is genuinely so funny to me because like, wtf is it’s competition again? The Halo series? 💀

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Halo and Mayor of Kingstown are likely the most popular shows on Paramount.

[@haonneogip4740]

I hate this show because there's no Sonic in it for me to throw my hatred for Sonic at. So says I, the self-proclaimed Twitter Sonic fanbase representative.

[@punzy1391]

Ok noob

[@KeithMyers2022]

if they do continue after sonic 3, they need to drop the live action angle and set a story on little planet.

[@AdamSelvig]

I don’t hate the knuckles show I just dislike the direction they went with it

[@socks456]

Idk why people are mad that knuckles is doing well. Sure im not a big fan of it, but wether you love it or hate it, let the criticisms speak louder then just avoiding it, if they don’t learn or we get more of the same, then stop watching. But until then i dont get the hate for the support of it

[@Seekfromdoors-pd2jf]

I honestly don’t know why people hate the knuckles show I get that it had more of wade over knuckles even if people including me kinda hated episode 4 I really loved the knuckles show though

[@user-zf1mx5dj2u]

THEY CAN MAKE A COMEBACK WITH A SEASON 2

[@THE_SONICSTER]

I love the knuckles tv show

[@Twillek1019_]

I just hope they don’t make our boy Shads do the floss.

[@Liononmytoes]

I liked it. I want more (but more Sonic characters). I like the human characters just wish they can budget/write so its even for the two per an episode.

[@NicheXCC]

I think that's it for the old Sonic fandom.

[@rlynnmcneil9962]

0:45 "Some fans are saying the Knuckles series is the worst piece of Sonic Media ever." Me: ... Did everyone forget about Sonic 06 video game? The one where they had Elise kissing Sonic?

[@sb14andmore50]

That's not even the worst, it was mediocre at best, at least it was playable( *Cough Cough* Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric *Cough Cough* )but I will agree that the kiss scene didn't need to be there, at least have Amy kiss Sonic or replace the kiss with a hug or something

[@Uesr2004D]

Eww, tf? That's the worst part that Sonic has done by kissing an actual human being in Sonic History. 🤢💀

[@rlynnmcneil9962]

@@Uesr2004D Well, technically, Elise kissed Sonic since he was dead (temporarily), but you're right about that.

[@Uesr2004D]

@@rlynnmcneil9962 yeah!

[@SeasonalGFilms]

This gives me more respect for Paramount now, but then again, I’m still a bit concerned if they are going to double down.

[@TheLedezmas]

I’m actually surprised that the Knuckles show is a “Certified Fresh”. Some people didn’t like the show, and it’s pretty obvious why. I’m just starting with the show, and I’m already enjoying it. I don’t know. This is pretty spilt among critics and users. The first two Sonic movies were already amazing, and I’m sure they’ll do something to make this the most successful Sonic movie project ever. Crazy that the Knuckles show is the most successful for now at least. I’m hoping the third Sonic movie won’t have similar mistakes than the Knuckles series. I’m sure it might make a lot of people happy, but Twitter is literally the worst place for sharing opinions. Let’s stay away from there and hope for the best.

[@BigBootyDuty]

If you accept it as a Wade and Knuckles buddy show, it's a pretty fun show. If you want Knuckles and only him, you are going to be disappointed.

[@SBaby]

Here's the thing about the Knuckles miniseries. I enjoyed it. I'll start there. That said, it is obvious that it was filler and that they were playing it safe, and this is likely because they genuinely didn't know how well the show would do. So what I would say going forward is this. This is something that they can get away with once, because I know they weren't sure how it would do. I understand that. But now that they know people will watch these spinoffs, this can't be the way they do them every single time they make one. The next one has to involve the game characters a bit more, and most importantly, *it has to be important to the main plot of the series and not just filler*. If I was in their position, I would be looking at what Kingdom Hearts does with their spinoffs and how they work each and every one of them into the main plot of the numbered titles. Whether you love that series or hate it is irrelevant. They know how to do this and they're really damn good at it. If the Sonic movies are going to have more of these spinoffs, then they can be done in the same manner, making them matter just as much as the movies.

[@RayTheGr8]

Idea great execution not so much but it just goes how much people love the series

[@MarcosMint1997]

Idk why people are complaining it’s LITERALLY ONE COUNT IT ONE!!! project from the sonic universe if it continues then yes complain your hearts out but don’t be so quick to judge god damn SHUT UP!

[@TailsOfficialChannel1992]

When Knuckles was really a little bad about to punch too much

[@natestockton6416]

The question if there's gonna be more human then sonic stuff it sounded like speculation they listened to the fans with the old sonic design from 2019 they can definitely listen to the fans now.

[@jumpersaucer4019]

I think the complaint that Knuckles doesn’t have enough screen time is a little silly. I felt like him and Wade had an equal amount of presence in the show. I guess some people just don’t like him sharing the spotlight.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Well I mean it's called the Knuckles show, so i wouldn't expect a character such as Wade to have so much screen time in comparison to Knuckles.

[@evanvongustav8814]

Sonic Movies being compared to Avengers being the endgoal? I joked about it before, but now I'm wondering if there's a chance they're building up to a movie about the Sonic Heroes. At the end of Sonic 2, Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, mentioned founding a new order of "Heroes" The intro to Knuckles has the Drumset of the Garage Door band segment say "Team Sonic" on it, as though that's what they're calling the group/band. On a possibly related note, the Owl Tribe ruins in Siberia has Babylonian runes for some reason (a band of Emerald-stealing, feathered Rogues from Babylon... Where have I heard that before? 🤔)

[@T.N.M.-2005.]

I loved this series it was cool.

[@Kwizzy8406]

I don’t think that’s how speech bubbles work in the thumbnail.

[@ADoggoNamedTom]

I hope knuckles appears more

[@EnderCatAGZ12]

THAT'S RIGHT! SUCK IT, HATERS!!! 😆😆😆😝😝😝

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Just because you don't like the show doesn't mean you're a hater.

[@CrazyManhog]

This was still way better then Sonic Boom.

[@sebastiancendoya7854]

Sonic Boom had some moments

[@gn2677]

The tv show was great the games ehhh not so much

[@jimmyhook4852]

Honestly, just ignore those that complain on Twitter. :/ They are nothing more, and as @SonicHub pointed out, a Cesspool. :/

[@waff64]

its the sonic dream team of the movie franchise

[@dreamsthatgotogether7553]

This is fantastic news! Congratulations Knuckles, Sonic, and Paramount!!

[@faithful_otaku7339]

Knuckles Show > Mario Movies

[@CCrafters166]

They should re name it to knuckles & Wade

[@vi6ddarkking]

The show isn't bad. It a refined version of the first movie. Fun enough. I think the part of the fan base that up in arms are complaining because it wasn't what they wanted it to be. Rather than the show being a bad piece of media. And Yes I would have loved to see a live action version of (THE SUB VERSION, F you 4Kids) Sonic X. But we'll still need to wait a few more years before AI tools get good enough for us to do that on a budget.

[@ezronco.8671]

Why AI tools? We shouldn't encourage AI creations at all for several reasons. The CGI and effects they're using are already enough and look pretty good the only issue is budget which shouldn't be too big of a problem considering all the commercial success the series has.

[@vi6ddarkking]

@@ezronco.8671 We need AI for the Automation of creation of the CGI and effects to lower the budget. By the way. When I said 'We' I am not referring to Paramount or Hollywood. I meant WE, as in the independent creators.

[@ezronco.8671]

@@vi6ddarkking are you saying that sega should make a live action show similar to sonic x, or are you saying that fans should make that show instead. Either way i'll say this ai creation won't help independent creators as much as you think it does. Fan projects or non profit projects sure, but once ai technology develops and become more mainstream a lot of the income that independent creators would make would be lost. A lot of businesses and customers would just learn how to make ai stuff themselves rather than pay other people to do it especially with how automated and easy it is. I don't know what way you're thinking how ai is to be used, but personally i'm not a fan of ai creations. A lot of the ai stuff you see is mostly generated from stolen art and images throughout the internet and it encourages laziness and lack of creativity. The only ai stuff that i can approve of is to replicate an actor's face or voice so long as you have their permission, or family's permission (if they're dead). Admittedly i'm biased against ai so i need you to explain what uses you're thinking of otherwise, i think that nobody should use ai to create art, cgi, or effects.

[@vi6ddarkking]

@@ezronco.8671 Well AI isn't going anywhere so its a simple matter of adapt or die. AI image and text to 3D is already good enough for some circumstance with minum clean up. AI animation is already well established and text to animation is coming on the pipeline. We've had tools to compensate for all of the major problems with AI image generation for over a year now. All free all open source all still getting better. And the list just goes on. AI is only going to get better and cheaper to run.

[@ezronco.8671]

@@vi6ddarkking that isn't exactly a good thing for artists or independent creators so idk why you would encourage it. Do you even consider how fans would react to it? A lot of the sonic fanbase are artists, animators, and writers some of them have built careers off of it and even work for sega do you think they would approve of this type of shit. The moment they find out its ai they'll give sega and any companies or "artists" that use it, shit for it. AI just sucks the soul out of anything creative the human mind is not something that can be analysed that easily that you can cheapen and commercialise it. Any artist with self respect would refuse to use this shit. Also ai animation isn't that good, they're either basic as shit, or incredibly warped because it's trying to make something cohesive over millions of media with some instruction.

[@DorianJames-zi8rt]

Someone should make a knuckles and the Ted show comparison to prove why the the knuckles works

[@MnMsg2Wrld]

i like the knuckles tv show why are people hating on it

[@MeeMtheMemer]

It makes sense because paramount+ has like nothing

[@Shatterspacespeedster]

I loved the show wade needed to have spotlight as well

[@CoolBeanSoup]

Personally, I feel mixed about the Knuckles mini-series. There were some things that I did like about it, while there were some other things that I didn't like about it. So, it's a mixed bag for me. You pose a good question about this situation. What should they do? Perhaps they could listen a little bit of the criticisms, not all of them, but some of them. Use the constructive feedback and make adjustments for future spin-offs that there will be a proper balance between focusing on the main Sonic characters and humans. I believe they can do it, but only if they are willing to make those good changes. I am excited for the Sonic 3 movie. I can't believe Keanu Reeves is gonna voice Shadow.

[@mjr0947]

Nobody hates sonic games and media more than sonic fans

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Acting like you're so smart for saying that.

[@EggmanConeboySecurity1990]

They was really hated of Knuckles Movie

[@GokuUzumaki03]

To me, the Knuckles Series (or nis one of those series where it’s “so bad that’s good” kind of series. I may consider this over Sonic 1. I think that episodes 1 & 4 are the best in the series, episode 3 has the best action scene (especially where they have to protect a candle), Knuckles is still great (looks really cool with the hat from the OVA movie), Pistol Pete looking like the British Mr.Monopoly Guy,and have some good moments and jokes that are far from a worst Sonic content. I actually don’t mind watching a video on the decision making process for Knuckles Series. Despite that, yes there is some bad stuff about it. The show is like the wedding scene from Sonic 2 again but make it with Wade and about bowling. It does show because episodes 5 & 6 (the worst episodes) mainly focus more on bowling than the final battle with The Buyer. Speaking of The Buyer, he’s the most forgettable character, but at least he’s not Wade’s sister. She is the worse character in the franchise, even Robotnik from the first movie is better than her. I don’t think that it’s the worst Sonic media. I would Sonic 06, Rise of Lyric,& Ugly Sonic model to be considered worst Sonic media. I am wondering if there is going to be a Season 2 that would either actually focus on Knuckles or Knuckles training Wade to fight for a boxing tournament.