Saying drizzle is worse than clear body is a really, really bad take. It boosts water type attack power by 50% and guarantees thunder to hit (not an issue bc no one else will be running Thunder) while removing potentially threatening weather effects on other teams. It’s one of the best abilities in the game.
@metanightmare44542 жыл бұрын
You mean Drizzle?
@median992 жыл бұрын
@@metanightmare4454 yup, fixed
@gearzofwar1232 жыл бұрын
Dude we know his opinions and criteria is so ridiculous. He still regards popularity as a deciding factor (his explanation was god awful as to why) and Clear Body is by far a worse ability than Drizzle because of who the abilities are attached to. Kyogre literally just NUKES things with that ability and there’s a reason it’s one of the most utilized Pokémon EVER. I also love how he almost thought Mewtwo having Unnerve was almost as bad as Snow Cloak, when Unnerve is a VERY useful competitive ability and can save you in a playthrough plenty of times
@Drobbins20122 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. Kyogre in rain boosted water spout is SCARY. Awful take
@gearzofwar1232 жыл бұрын
@@Drobbins2012 yeah dude, Water Spout Kyogre boosted by rain is still to this day is a competitive staple that world champions still utilize. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s like “oh, Clear Body is better because you can’t have your stats lowered.” Yeah but when you can’t even make use of your own stats because they’re already bad, your ability not being able to change that means it’s a bad ability to have. It’s basic common sense. Kyogre’s ability to take LESS damage from something it already resists can save it in the long run when taking a neutral or ever super effective hit, while making its stab attacks super nukes and then giving one if it’s best coverage moves 100% accuracy and being able to build an entire team around its ability makes Clear Body look like absolute shit.
@abomb36012 жыл бұрын
Did... Did you just say drizzle is the worst ability? I have no words... Drizzle and drought are top 5 abilities in all of Pokémon. Not to mention it lasted THE WHOLE BATTLE in gen 3.
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@Luniversedanimation2 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments just to make sure I wasn’t crazy lol I’ve never heard drizzle is a bad ability before lol drizzle even made politoed and pelliper relevant before lol 😂
@abomb36012 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinsmymiddlename5756 Trueee. Ferrothorn is ridiculously OP. Even in casual playthroughs. I think that the research needs to be picked up A LOT. Vibes are high, but the Pokémon knowledge is lacking. Unfortunately it is starting to turn me away from the videos, which is sad.
@Ethan_Nap2 жыл бұрын
Fr, drizzle thunder mix is insane
@abomb36012 жыл бұрын
@@Ethan_Nap Don't forget about hurricane
@StateBlaze19892 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how one of the requirements of the pseudo legendary category is that their base stat total equals 600, yet a lot of these actual legendaries can't even manage to reach that.
@Kali_Krause2 жыл бұрын
The only non legendary that almost hits legend status is Slaking, with a base stat total of 670. Most box art legendaries have a base stat total of 700 +
@kiraniqbal72692 жыл бұрын
@@Kali_Krause check your facts bro
@smirglepapier5312 жыл бұрын
@@Kali_Krause no? dialga/palkia/ho-oh and all other boxart legis have a bst of 680. Only boxart legi with more is kyrem as a fusion. All legis/PKMN with over 700 (arceus aside) are all special forms that are oftentimes not available after some generations...
@melvondrewhite26742 жыл бұрын
@@smirglepapier531 Ultra Necrozma 754 !
@smirglepapier5312 жыл бұрын
@@melvondrewhite2674 it's still a fusion and not an independent PKMN...
@JPRPokeTrainer982 жыл бұрын
I know all 4 Regigigas stans were sweating when they clicked on this one
@wolfmanbob3212 жыл бұрын
ÜNÜNÜN
@dunfy49922 жыл бұрын
@@wolfmanbob321 that translate to famous
@matthewzakrzewski17972 жыл бұрын
Personally can't fathom that gigas isn't an instant number 1 lmao. Slow start is so astronomically awful that there is simply no comparison, no matter how much better its bases, move pool, or popularity is. In the 5 turns its taken for gigas to get his act together, other legendaries have already swept the opposing team.
@rambosister6703 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewzakrzewski1797 he is a mythical so he should have been excluded from the list
@paultczar Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those 4 Regigigas stans.
@valerie.cutie2372 жыл бұрын
Although Kyogre does resist fire, this is not the only advantage of drizzle, as water type attacks in rain receive a 50% boost, and thus making Kyogre's STAB water type attacks much more powerful. I would argue that Rayquaza's Air Lock is the worst ability, as it only applies during weather, making it situational.
@scientificallyaccuratetyra42922 жыл бұрын
Not the original commenter
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@xpeerke53502 жыл бұрын
He mentioned that, he said that half of its ability is basically useless not completely
@awenner2 жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking that Drizzle was a bad ability. How many gaffes will we let this guy get away with?
@KuroiRenge2 жыл бұрын
Air Lock in Competitive? Super amazing. Air Lock in a playthrough? ...Ehhhh...
@VickyBlood2 жыл бұрын
About Drizzle, not only does it lowers the power fire type moves, but also increases the power of water type moves, making Kyogre more powerful, especially with moves like Water Spout, Hydro Pump and Origin Pulse.
@Shu_K_2 жыл бұрын
Drizzle fr FR makes Kyogre a beast in competitive
@redbeardmcduck86872 жыл бұрын
Drizzle is infinitely superior to clear body as it can synergize with other members of the team and create a full strategy
@metanightmare44542 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know what he's been huffing, but that was nonsense. Even most kids realize after a few years of playing how terrifying weather can be. Also, I don't know how he can justify saying Rock is a worse type than Ice. Yeah it has one more weakness, but at least it has resistances.
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@durk53312 жыл бұрын
You know he literally mentioned that First right? That it increases the power of its water moves >.>
@All4Games42 жыл бұрын
Drizzle is worse then clear body. Yeah, seeing as competitive was dominated for years by weather abilities and they are to this day still fundemental platforms on which teams are build. Solid disagree that Drizzle is worse then clear body.
@phoenixblade83152 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@baddragonite2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna constructively explain why Drizzle is literally one of the best abilities in the series. Usually one thing that determines if an ability is good or not is how many things it does. Drizzle boosts Kyogre's stab moves, it guarantees that Kyogre can hit with it's coverage thunder move, it lets other pokemon like swift swim users and and rain dish users get their abilities going, it covers for the fire weaknesses of other Pokemon on your team. It lets Hurricane from flying types hit with 100% accuracy like Thunder. There's a reason weather has been a consistently top meta mechanic and rain is usually the best of them. Heck the entire meta of Gen 5 was called "the weather wars"
@nameless94672 жыл бұрын
Hoopsandhiphop: drizzle isn't better than clear body Rain teams : hold my BO'OH'O'WA'ER
@mimahakurei44302 жыл бұрын
Thunder bypasses its accuracy check in the rain, hitting 100% of the time. This is probably why he considered Drizzle to be the worst; Kyogre is a water type, and while Drizzle is good for boosting his power, it opens up one heck of a weakness. When one of the most powerful electric-type moves-- that can be learned by nearly every electric-type Pokemon via level up or TM-- can hit your water-type Pokemon 100% of the time, Drizzle suddenly becomes a massive liability.
@rfreakingd89922 жыл бұрын
Except the fact, no one runs Thunder except rain teams which is kind of niche in Ubers.
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@mrboost41862 жыл бұрын
@@mimahakurei4430 Who tf is running Thunder outside of a rain team? In fact, the most common runner of Thunder is probably Kyogre itself, so Thunder's perfect accuracy is to Kyogre's advantage.
@thiffio91342 жыл бұрын
During the drafting of the script, Hoops just leaned over Ron’s desk and said, “hey true green. Let me copy your homework.”
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@jaredwilson19382 жыл бұрын
When I think of my favorite Pokémon, stats don’t even come into it. It has more to do with design and memories I have from using them in games. Great video, keep up the good work!
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@zubairsadiq55652 жыл бұрын
Same here....I only and always consider design....cuz Pokémon are not real deal so why should I consider stats and all...
@TuesdaysArt2 жыл бұрын
Giratina is my favorite Legendary because of HGSS and Koraidon is a close second because the story got me really attached to it.
@ajtp13492 жыл бұрын
I’m not hating on the idea of this video but jeez you don’t not know how good or bad some abilities stats and typings are to have a strong opinion on them. Saying Drizzle is the worst ability in any category is very very far off and that rock type is worse than ice hurt to hear
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@multifister472 жыл бұрын
Now do a whole video defending your stance on why you believe “Clear Body” is better than “Drizzle”, so we can all roast you beyond recognition
@phoenixblade83152 жыл бұрын
Your validation for popularity being a factor is awful.
@garfeld6252 жыл бұрын
Sad truth about Zygarde. I personally love him and shiny hunted the stuffing out of him in Sword, but he is usually little more than a collectable and his cool final form is locked behind his ability. I hope one day we can get him story for him. I would also love if one day his complete form was always available ❤️🧡 Edit: grammar
@someonecool44752 жыл бұрын
Cant you ability capsule in sword and shield?
@garfeld6252 жыл бұрын
@@someonecool4475 it just creates a 50% zygarde that can't transform
@someonecool44752 жыл бұрын
@@garfeld625 Oh that's dumb
@ianb.25752 жыл бұрын
Considering the quality of modern pokemon titles, I wouldn't count on it
@IronBundleTrainerLiam2 жыл бұрын
The modern Pokemon games are, imo, far better in places then the older games with the fact that getting into competitive is easier, the QOL improvements with stuff like the Nature Mints, Cram-o-Matic, breeding improvements, etc. So yeah, not as bad as you think man...
@BlufireTheifprince2 жыл бұрын
The thing with Drizzle being considered the worst ability, you forget that type resistances and STAB are the first modifiers applied and those modifiers do stack on top of each other. And Weather modifiers even the playing field in some ways
@spottyunderdog2 жыл бұрын
I would deffinetly consider looking at competive viability the nextime you do a video like this. you can just use the smogon usage/teiring systems.
@phoenixblade83152 жыл бұрын
You neglected to take speed into consideration when comparing the forces of nature. Look into the Rampardos theorm
@bobkingofham62962 жыл бұрын
Also Ngl landorus was and is extremely popular in competitive c I knkw it’s not the focus but thundurus and landorus both have been on many world champ teams
@phoenixblade83152 жыл бұрын
@@bobkingofham6296 true. It’s good input. Tornadus has good singles utility. There’s so many factors which make legendaries good or bad
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@phoenixblade83152 жыл бұрын
@@gadaboutgriffon4446 we’re aware👍 thanks for the heads up though👍
@kropes_kropes2 жыл бұрын
Man said that drizzle is worse than air lock.
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
Well worse than Clear Body but yes, this guy has some seriously bad takes. This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
Scam alert. You tubers announce winners in videos.
@PragMagik2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you taking the time to call out the haters and explain your reasoning. These videos are great and don’t listen to them.
@Ryodraco2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say not listening is good advice, at least if criticisms are valid. For instance, I think most people would agree Drizzle is a better ability than Clear Body.
@mrboost41862 жыл бұрын
@@Ryodraco That's not even up for debate. Drizzle unequivocally makes Kyogre incredible.
@MugenAeternum2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Drizzle define Pokémon tiers for god knows how long to a point where they had to help Groudon out in ORAS?
@mrboost41862 жыл бұрын
Yeah pfft whatever, it's clearly not as good as the shit ability Clear Body
@justanoreo39282 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not like kyogre didn't terrify everyone in ubers of gen 4 or anything, being so scary that it gave parasect a niche in the tier because it counter it nope not at all :D
@sethsameer43792 жыл бұрын
Didn't like the popularity comparison in the other video, but I think you did a good job explaining why it should be taken into consideration and have convinced me.
@MadamGlitch2 жыл бұрын
I would say that Kyogre shouldn't have gotten last place on ability. Even though it's water type, Drizzle still does help because taking even less fire damage is good. If you can survive fire damage even more than without Drizzle, then that's a good thing
@bruhmoment34782 жыл бұрын
Drizzle helps because you get 50% more water attack boost
@batatafrita27832 жыл бұрын
Drizzle? You mean the ability that made Kyogre absolutely broken? Giving its STAB water attacks a bonus? THAT drizzle? This is somehow a little worst than the starters video... Gee
@phoenixblade83152 жыл бұрын
I think there were biases with the comments
@MagusAgrippa82 жыл бұрын
I will admit that the explanation for the popularity metric makes a bit more sense to account for elements that are not related to numbers. But even so, I am sure there would be a few more quantifiable elements that could be used in place of that metric like amount of appearances in the anime or amount of cards. Glad to see you using the stat distribution instead of just the total bst. Stat distribution can be just as important as the total in determining whether a Pokémon is useful and thus more fun to use.
@xpiredmilk52702 жыл бұрын
Entei literally has its own movie
@MagusAgrippa82 жыл бұрын
@@xpiredmilk5270 And Suicune has an arc. Frankly I’d argue that Raikou got the shortest end of the stick in terms of anime appearances, being shafted with a Chronicles movie that no one really cared about.
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@justanoreo39282 жыл бұрын
This feels like what the popularity category should've been lol
@MagusAgrippa82 жыл бұрын
@@justanoreo3928 It’s the best way I can think to quantify it without people’s opinion getting in the way.
@bottlecaps10442 жыл бұрын
If you don't include popularity it would be a video about the weakest...which would make it a video about who is objectively the worst. I could see using popularity as a tie breaker, but it has no room being on a list where your stating what Pokemon is objectively the worst, key operating word being objective.
@plasmatic210.2 жыл бұрын
“It wasn’t made for battle… it was made to stay in the goddamn bag Nebby!!”
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@stefanjelincic46772 жыл бұрын
I can see the reason for Calyrex being the worst of the Gen 8 Legendaries. It's incomplete, needing a noble steed to reach its full power.
@wyndhamfreeman14892 жыл бұрын
The drizzle take is just wrong. Regirock is definitely worse either way though. Also, I'm not sure if it is fair to exclude form changes and evolutions from consideration. Yeah, Cosmoem might be the worst, but you would never actually use a Cosmoem. The entire purpose is to get Lunala or Solgaleo.
@chrisriley23212 жыл бұрын
I agree. though a note I have on the video would be listing off the Pokemon in each for each region. It's for those not familiar with each group like the Weather Trio or Forces of Nature or the Legendaries in each region at all
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@chrisriley23212 жыл бұрын
@@gadaboutgriffon4446 I know
@Angelus_Ex_Umbra2 жыл бұрын
"we will be judging based on popularity". Here we go again. Something as subjective as popularity intrinsically invalidates the objectivity of the video! If someone is trying to learn to play competitively your title is very misleading.
@FishyAshB2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. There are ways you can objectively measure how popular a pokemon is, like measuring google search results (for worldwide popularity he would need to include all the different pokemon names of different languages). Sadly the uploader doesn't even bother doing that and only goes by his opinion, and only refers to some KZbin video (which only has 1M views, and the poll itself probably has a much smaller sample size than that) when he doesn't have a strong opinion on the popularity of certain pokemon, as if that is gonna be anywhere near as accurate as GOOGLE. What is WAY MORE EGREGIOUS is the ability criteria. It is literally PURE OPINION and leads to some really heinous claims like saying DRIZZLE is worse than CLEAR BODY. Beyond clueless tbh
@sammyjimmy73562 жыл бұрын
You should do pseudo legendarys next
@bri10852 жыл бұрын
It's probably Dragonite now, I want to say Salemence, but it got a mega
@cyanide_crow79702 жыл бұрын
Enamorous. I was legitimately so disappointed when I saw it I don't think that feeling will ever be topped.
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
Scam alert. You tubers announce winners in videos.
@adsysoncoulter43872 жыл бұрын
I never understood why the cosmog line is considered a legendary when it comes from the ultra worm hole, shouldn't it be considered a ultra beast like everything else that comes from a ultra worm hole?
@FrostGlader2 жыл бұрын
Cosmog’s line (and Necrozma), are considered Ultra Beasts in Lore, but are classified as Legendary Pokémon within the games code, superseding the UB ranking. As a side effect of having seperate classification in the code, they aren’t affected by the Beast Ball.
@justinterry29262 жыл бұрын
It also has to do with how long ago in lore they came to the region They were worshiped by the people of the region for a long long time Hence legendary
@OneMoreBookMatt2 жыл бұрын
Saying that Drizzle is a bad ability on Kyogre is nuts actually. Saying that Drizzle is worst than Clear body i cant even process.
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@OneMoreBookMatt2 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinsmymiddlename5756 I mean... in a playthrough could be hard to use Ferrothorn at least, cause ferrossed takes forever to evolve, has low base stats and has a lot of weakness... but saying that one of the greatest abilitys in all history o pokemon is worst than CLEAR BODY...
@scarlettefoxx55852 жыл бұрын
Oh boy.. I'm not sure if you'll actually read this but- That's the thing you're not getting about popularity. It doesn't actually measure appearance, design, or public perception. The things you mentioned after as well it counts none of those things. Well, maybe public perception but its not a good indicator of total perception. I would like to see you give each of these parts their own quantifiable measures and give more data points than letting 1/3 (now 1/4) of the points go to popularity. If you wish to have popularity be a factor thats fine but it shouldn't be the only thing thats not looking at battle prowess. You could look at pokemon origins and see how popular those myths are, or maybe a 2nd category for how popular the animal they're based on is? (public perception) You could look at data of people who say 'yes i like the design' vs 'no i dont like the design' or you could take methods use to objectify other pieces of art and apply them to the lines and shapes of pokemon (design) You can measure how much people like the color palates when they dont know its a pokemon's color palate. (Appearance) I'm sure there are many websites dedicated to what color combos people like best and you can use that and match the closest thing. Point being, people are upset because they know the results are unfairly skewed. We learn in all sorts of classes (statistics, biology, english, chemistry, psychology classes are where ive personally relearnt this concept) on how to avoid biased information and call it out so we dont use it and create accidentally biased papers or such. I don't think you have to change anything if you're just having fun, but you're coming off as trying to find a fact via research, so it's bound to piss people off. Yikes my dude, dont let the comments get to you too much, just clarify what the intent is a bit more! Good luck
@invisibilius19782 жыл бұрын
8:16 no way you just said drizzle was the worst ability lol. also im sorry but thundurus is way worse than torn-t competitively... thundo doesn't even get a flying move. fairy aura -> WAY better than aura break, it's so ridiculously specific while fairy aura makes xerneas have nuclear moonblasts.
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@WatchingCrow2 жыл бұрын
Dude, really? Popularity as a category makes the “Objective” in the name of the video oxymoronic. Several people pointed that out in the last one
@quinnduclos2 жыл бұрын
I dont think you should use Ron's video for popularity, something like pokemon of the year by Google has a bigger sample size
@chrismaystar30142 жыл бұрын
If Popularity is a metric to counterbalance the relevance of competitive viability, the metric itself is still regional (real-world regional). A lot of the conversation on Popularity here refers to the predominantly English-speaking fandom. One person could not account for the interest in Zygarde for French fans. As a metric, Popularity could change as soon as the next game, just as popularity for various Pokemon changed when Legends: Arceus came out. Popularity is bound to fluctuate with remakes, movie tie-ins, events, and resurging competitive viability.
@deathbymazda2 жыл бұрын
Putting a pre-evolution on the list was dumb.
@PatGencarelli2 жыл бұрын
All credibility IMMEDIATELY thrown out of the window when you start off the video with "from an unbiased viewpoint" then throw in "popularity" as a criteria.
@PrivateSparky2 жыл бұрын
The Drizzle take is horrible. Drizzle is a phenomenal ability. It may not help Kyogre much against Fire attacks, since it already resists Fire types, sure. But a 50% boost to STAB water attacks is too good of a boost to ignore. Not to mention perfect accuracy on Thunder means it has an answer to other water types.
@juneroughs2 жыл бұрын
i dunno.. but since legendaries don't usually evolve so i think it is kinda unfair for those that actually does and would always kinda be an easy pick as the worst... i'm not a fan of cosmoem however, i just think it is an easy or obvious pick if we are considering them as individual pokemon.
@melvondrewhite26742 жыл бұрын
Thank You ! 💯
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@DemiIsNotHere2 жыл бұрын
I have some hard disagrees. Regice is just worse than regirock. Specially with body press as an available move that uses its massive 200 def eith acces to curse and bulk up, its okay in PU, regice is untiered now. And drizzle fire weakening efect isnt a factor when shooting boosted waterspouts. Normal groudon doesnt have the luxury of boosting its stab. Uxie vs regigigas is harder, but if you considet that regigigas is virtually 90 base stat total lower than the shown value. Its starts seeing worse. Uxie has a nice ability, better speed. And tons of utility moves making it more useful. Thurnadus has 3 of the best abilities available, good speed and offenses and pure fliying is a good type and it has great coverage. Virizion is the worse tiered gen 5 legendary as its really a bad typed special wall.
@ohnoitswynne2 жыл бұрын
im surprised you chose kyogre as the one with the worst ability instead of groudon. at least with drizzle, it gets STAB on top of drizzles water type boost. groudon doesnt get that with drought. if anything, it just screws groudon over even more since drought gives the opponent the opportunity to use solar bean in one turn and one-shot it, given they have it
@TinyWowo2 жыл бұрын
The point about Kyogre's drizzle being the worst ability is, in my opinion, not right as most rain setters in rain teams are water type such as politoed, so rain would have the same effect on the resistances and if it's like that why isn't groudon also there with sunny day?
@bird_obsession2 жыл бұрын
Sunny Day is much more useful in this situation, as it reduces the damage from one of Groudon's weaknesses, unlike Kyogre, who reduces the damage from a resistance.
@bri10852 жыл бұрын
@@bird_obsession but also improves Kyogres stab
@bird_obsession2 жыл бұрын
@@bri1085 Yes it does. Drought also essentially gives stab to Groudon - not to mention its primal form already has Fire stab
@ThisAintGood.2 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to say “in my opinion” cause it’s a straight fact
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@owenwildish3312 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Yveltal is somehow connected or related to the Kantonian/Galarian Legendary Birds and the Tower Duo, Ho-Oh and Lugia, in some way, also which other legendaries may be secretly connected or related, I wonder...?
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@javiergarrido25732 жыл бұрын
Cosmoem can be thought of as a sentient egg in terms of its battle application. All you have to do is use exp share and you can get a viable pokemon after a little bit of grinding. I find this way easier than looking for Zygarde cells to make another legendary at least somewhat viable. However, I do agree that it's if you take evolutions out of the equation, your ranking makes sense.
@zinzolin142 жыл бұрын
Calyrex being the objectively worst Legendary Pokemon is fitting considering its power has dwindled. However, it's story has made it a lot more likeable than a lot of Legendaries we've had up to now.
@leonardoluiz74872 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with you in the hoenn category. It's mostly agreed among the pokemon community that Ice is the worse type, Regice's stat distribution is pretty much on par with Regirock (simply being a special version of regirock and even then Ice is probably the worse type fot that spread) and, as a lot of people alredy pointed out, Drizzle is either the best ability or tied for best ability with Drought, which would make all Regis tie and Regice have the second worst hidden ability among them (only beating registeel since Light Weight is useless most of the time) - although I'll give you gen 3 sturdy might be the worst out of the 3 if you're going by their original generations. I also think in Unova you tunnel visioned too hard on the weather trio. While they are the least popular, Virizion is worse then Tornadus in every other aspect. It have 5 weakness + a 4x weakness (vs 3 weakness with a immunity for Tornadus), Tornadus have the better ability and I think Tornadus have a better stat distribution.
@PoolKid752 жыл бұрын
You need to re-examine Alola because Cosmoem may be weak and forgettable but its respective evolutions are not. You need to evaluate them based on their highest possible potential, which in this unique case means their final forms.
@solierix2 жыл бұрын
You kinda ate this
@johnlynch13532 жыл бұрын
My problem With you using objectivity and popularity together, Is because they are practically antonyms. Popularity is inherently subjective and subjective is an antonym with objective. So you can’t use popularity to objectively prove anything other than popularity.
@commonbridge47352 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's honestly weird. Like, people may like Lugia more than Manaphy on average, but how would that make Manaphy "worse" than Lugia? It's also kind of like saying chocolate bars are objectively "better" for you because it's (probably) more popular than some lesser-known fruits or vegetables out there. That's not how objectivity works.
@nomrahanelez65522 жыл бұрын
If I may make a request, Can you do the fossil pokemon? I would like to see how that goes. (I love all the fossil pokemon)
@haylesouth5485 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think of Cosmog or Cosmoem
@Septor-xc4xr2 жыл бұрын
Instead of a popularity metric I personally think itd be better to take their designs(such as inspiration and amount of detail and maybe even how well they fit the type of legendaries they are.ex: box, side or quest legend) into account in any future uploads regarding the topic, that way it can be more accurately objective
@thecreativy22602 жыл бұрын
Thats just subjective though
@Septor-xc4xr2 жыл бұрын
@@thecreativy2260 how is that subjective, looking at the references used for a pokemon, the purpose that pokemon serves, and how well it serves that purpose? I guess that last part is a lil subjective but both the other things are comple objective
@thecreativy22602 жыл бұрын
@@Septor-xc4xr I mean sure but its gonna be at least a little biased no matter what, like perhaps if the orgin was more interesting I would prefer that pokemon more, and maybe if im affiliated in some way with one of these references. It's going to be biased no matter what and the only way to have a true objective pov is from large data samples
@ldmtag2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I genuinely love this video, but Drizzle is definitely better than Clear Body. Drizzle is almost as good as Intimidate, which is said to be the best ability in the games. Even in singles Drizzle boosts the power of Water Spout to absurd levels (especially if you use Life Orb or something), and in doubles you can either attack with two rain boosted Water types or safely bring something weak to Fire. For opponent's Water type Thunder never misses in rain. Clear body is gimmicky, it's only usable in combination with moves like Psycho Boost or V-Create that lower your stats in exchange for absurdly high base power. Outside of Max moves side effects basically nobody in competitive lowers opponent's stats. They can just switch out making you waste a turn.
@skillz85992 жыл бұрын
Idk Regirock might have 5 weaknesses but it's still a tank especially with Drain Punch.
@kuriboy95722 жыл бұрын
I dunno if most people know this but in us/um you can take 2 zygardes (one from main story if you collected some or just 2 random ones) you can technically make 100% zygarde. Found that out when i didn't feel like finding every single one
@VictorHernandez-cz1be2 жыл бұрын
No way Drizzle is worse than Clear Body. Clear Body only prevents your opponent from lowering your stats, which basically makes you inmune to Intimidate exclusively, because really who runs stat-lowering moves?? Even in-game you rarely ever see stat-lowring moves. There's also the fact that Drizzle affected every Pokémon on the field, which means that the secondary effect can help the rest of your party, whereas Clear Body does not. There's simply no way, shape, or form, Clear Body is a better ability than Drizzle.
@robreddy81632 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of this series but I'd strongly recommend working with someone who knows about competitive Pokémon. While I understand your reasoning to not include it, although I have to disagree, it makes it difficult to watch the video when it's clear you don't know much about abilities at all. Drizzle is one of the most broken abilities in the game and runs all competitive formats. You can take a trash Pokémon like Pelipper, just add drizzle and it's a top pick in OU. It's fine if you don't want to and just want to make the videos for fun, but it's also taking away any credibility from what you have to say. Throwing the word OBJECTIVLY around doesn't help either. I hope you listen to the criticism and improve and continue this series of videos.
@RicP232 жыл бұрын
Completely agree.
@IAmMissingnoMaster2 жыл бұрын
Honestly surprised popularity didn't save Calyrex's bacon. I thought the Crown Tundra storyline with it painted it in a fairly interesting light, but apparently people don't like it?
@ghostamity51162 жыл бұрын
The way this guy bounces between making good and bad points might give me a concussion
@connor51872 жыл бұрын
Okay, it’s pretty obvious you don’t know competitive Pokémon or how to make these ranking lists. I’m don’t really know competitive Pokémon well and even I know that Regice has a worse type than Regirock and that drizzle is an amazing ability on Kyogre, especially when it’s going to go up against Groudon in any format where they are allowed. It seems like you’re just choosing one before doing any evaluations and then saying whatever you want in order to fit that narrative.
@connor51872 жыл бұрын
And then he goes on to say Xerneas doesn’t benefit that much from Fairy Aura. That one move is one good move that it uses all the time, and it can get others by TM! That’s like saying Rillaboom has a bad ability because the only grass move it uses is Grassy Glide
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@Hydman842 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like pre-evolutions shouldn't count. Otherwise reasonable
@Keizer07242 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose 1 out of the legendary birds. I would choose Articuno because it’s design is graceful while Moltress looks like a naked bird and even though I like Zapdos. He seems off but I don’t know why.
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@KuroiRenge2 жыл бұрын
Design-wise, Articuno is still my favorite Legendary. It's so graceful and elegant, and really leans into the legendary aspect of the name. It still looks like a Pokemon, but just much more sophisticated. Moltres has some cool art when it's in its flying top-down pose, and Zapdos looks like... it looks like it's trying to take your lunch money but doesn't know how to actually be intimidating enough to do it.
@Time-Traveller-2 жыл бұрын
No link to TrueGreen's video in description?
@sddreamcrystal2 жыл бұрын
Mythicals I guess would be next if you do another video
@TunaBear642 жыл бұрын
7:49 So is Ice or Rock the worst? You are sending mixed signals
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@alessandromazzini70262 жыл бұрын
what? drizzle is not a good ability? is literally one of the best abilities :I drizzle halven the damage of fire moves and double the power of water... in rain water moves will hit like trucks even resisting pokemon, aswell as being paired with lots of other abilities like rain dish or swift sim
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@jmelovesGod2 жыл бұрын
So some of the popularity is already based on other things like stats, movesets, looks, etc, so popularity is very fair to use to help determine something. as long as there are other things that are weighted more than the popularity. So basically what you did with the starters was good. Some people might not see it that way I guess, oh well lol.
@happy.time.boredom2 жыл бұрын
I like your content mate, but popularity has no place in objectivity lists like this.
@jonathanphone64192 жыл бұрын
I will maintain until my dying day being part of an evolutionary line excludes a Pokémon from being legendary. Legendaries are meant to be single stages.
@crawdaddy12342 жыл бұрын
Mespirit should have been the worst in Gen 4. Its stat distribution is awful and makes it way worse than Uxie or Azelf.
@ShadowAx25002 жыл бұрын
I love bidoof
@CyborgForgael2 жыл бұрын
What’s the problem with the Unnerve ability? I think it’s great when an opponent can’t use their Sitrus berry or damage reduction berry.
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@leonjensenn82532 жыл бұрын
Just started the video but I'm surprised Groudon on the thumbnail...his ability takes away every water and ice type move ..and allows him to use solar beam which is 120 damage with 100 percent accuracy...and this is a two turn move which can be used by Groudon on one turn
@GlonkOverlord2 жыл бұрын
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@GlonkOverlord2 жыл бұрын
be quiet u bot
@GamingMasterAnthony2 жыл бұрын
I actually don’t count the sun/moon box legends, and their evolution line, as… well… legendaries. I count them as ultra beasts. Nor do I count cubfu/urshifu as a TRUE legendary, their legend status in my eyes comes from the fact that they’re the “secret armor” and that’s about it. Without that I would just imagine them as an amazingly rare pseudo legendary line.
@PsychicJaylen2 жыл бұрын
We should exclude popularity and anything that involves other people's opinions because even though cosmog is made for a character the player is supposed to like and not battle with it's still the weakest legendary and having a big roll of popularity and being a star main character or whatever does not change the fact that it's the weakest it's to completely biased in a turn base FIGHTING rpg to just say that it's not the worst just cause of popularity with other people that's why I mainly only take data from the games itself to see what pokemon are good and bad
@PsychicJaylen2 жыл бұрын
Im not falling for that scam better luck next time
@dunfy49922 жыл бұрын
Do a What if the creation Trio got a 4th member?
@dunfy49922 жыл бұрын
If you don't know they represent Space Time and Reality or solid liquid and gas so I think a fourth one would be a good idea because it would represent matter or plasma
@dunfy49922 жыл бұрын
Like the move plasma fist being a electric type move I would imagine the plasma legendary creation member would be an electric/dragon dual type, what do you think?
@nick-playercharacter85832 жыл бұрын
Galarian Weezing earns Olympic gold medal in powerlifting for carrying Regigigas out of the bottom of the barrel.
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@tashriba2 жыл бұрын
Zamazenta is easily the worst legendary mon made. It' s literally Uber by technicality
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
Kyurem-Black who was stuck in OU for 3 generations: am I a joke to you? Regigigas: cries slowly for 5 turns
@phonepup062 жыл бұрын
I was really shocked to hear drizzle listed as the worst ability in gen 3 legendaries, and also to see Torn as the worst gen 5 legendary. Drizzle heavily increase the damage output of ogre as well as supports its team mates (whole teams are made around this ability but on far worse Pokémon). And I think the ability of Torn for priority tailwind, rain dance, taunt, etc should carry it over something like Virizion. Justified seems to make far less sense of Verizion than the other swords of justice; and it has a 4x weakness.
@eelingtonious2 жыл бұрын
how is drizzle worse then clear boddy? boosting 150 power waterspou or origin pulse is broken af, and never missing thunder is also broken. While what does groudon have? it just weakens water wich is good for him ig but he really doesnt run any fire moves outside of heat crash. Plus regirock's clear body is situational while kyogre's drizzle is always good unless your opponent can use it better than you can.
@Xinestral112 жыл бұрын
Who looks at the pre evolutions when deciding an objective worst? They're a part of a whole and to be fair, they're the only ones that evolve. Of course they'd be forgotten, the evolved forms are what people use.
@skyeblu31782 жыл бұрын
Yeah Tornadus T, insanely good pivot in OU is for sure worse than Virizion
@rendeason46152 жыл бұрын
Can we get a 3rd place bronze metal looser, just to have one with the regular stat Pokémon and not just the obvious ones that were designed to suck due to their in game function.
@Hierophant_Bean2 жыл бұрын
OBJECTIVELY THE WORST (in my opinion)
@TheRGuyRock2 жыл бұрын
I think the moves a Pokémon gets should be a category. Entei gets Sacred Fire, which is an insanely useful move and should almost disqualify Entei from this video.
@cloudcleaver232 жыл бұрын
Why consistently evaluate type based on defensive weakness, but not offensive prowess as a STAB?
@BNotInc2 жыл бұрын
On a competitive VGC standpoint, I would say that this list is basically correct! Other than Cosmog being worse than Cosmoem in competitive, but who the heck uses Cosmog/moem? Anyways, I can maybe argue that Virizion is worse for Unova Legendaries because poor typing, but Tornadus is still a fair pick. Hoenn, I’d say Regice because of Ice being such a poor type, but Regirock is equally as bad. And for Sinnoh, I say Regigigas is the worst. Just because of Slow Start. Once it gets out of Slow Start, then it’s fine, but in Slow Start, it’s definitely the worst. Also as a competitive player, DRIZZLE IS LITERALLY ONE OF THE BEST FRICKIN’ ABILITIES!!!!! It’s always almost ESSENTIAL to have weather! Plus Kyogre is SO EXTREMELY terrifying with those STAB/RAIN BOOSTED Origin Pulses and Water Spouts! Drizzle is instantly one of the BEST abilities. Clear Body doesn’t even compare.
@kelvinsmymiddlename57562 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who just said that FERROTHORN was the worst Pokémon in a Black and White playthrough. You know, the Pokémon that dominates Smogon OU to this day? Leech Seed, Power Whip, Gyro Ball at reasonable levels not enough? I don’t know if this is the case, but Hoops clearly has been slacking in the research department recently and I’m just disappointed given how he’s made lots of good videos before.
@parkersmith74782 жыл бұрын
If/when you do this again another criteria you could add would be in game lore. Sure a pokemon can be really powerful and be loved by fans, but if the lore says their a jerk then that's what they are. A good example would be giratina, its powerful and loved by everyone, but it was sent to the distortion world for a reason.
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@dragonninja36552 жыл бұрын
Heatran immediately came to mind. Mostly due to lack of lore.
@claudekaneiii22832 жыл бұрын
Best Legendary is Lugia. Worst is Heatran.
@pollie12202 жыл бұрын
May I suggest design as a category instead of popularity? Subcategories Origin Execution Origin does not count to the final ranking. However, it is a base for the execution. Execution defines how well it executes it's origin, and generally being well.. Pokemon enough. And no, it will not be judged off of ugliness. Just because Stunfisk is ugly, doesn't mean its design is bad. It executes origin properly. Now, take this with a grain of salt as I don't do stuff like this, and feel free to passively explain if this is bad in the comments.
@Pancakes272 жыл бұрын
I just realized it has to be a pain knowing that the video will be out of date in a little over a month when S&V come out
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@Keizer07242 жыл бұрын
Design seems to be another factor which is why Giratina is my favorite Legendary.
@ThisAintGood.2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY, this really should have been taken to account
@gadaboutgriffon44462 жыл бұрын
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@Morgil27 Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda surprised that the Forces of Nature are so unpopular, since I've always rather liked them.