Which Mythical Pokémon is OBJECTIVELY the WORST?

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@ChuckleStevensonTV 7 ай бұрын

Does it know how to make a grilled cheese?

@toumabyakuya 7 ай бұрын

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@TheShadow1347 7 ай бұрын

The worst Mythical Pokemon are Phione and Meltan imo

@amogus2734 7 ай бұрын

@hankpeterschmidt8626 7 ай бұрын

The worst is Phione but my least favorite? A 3-way tie between Arceus, Keldeo and Shaymin

@HesGotaGun505 7 ай бұрын

I was hoping for more compare and contrast among the Base 100 “pixies” like mew, celebi, victini, etc

@justajoshy 7 ай бұрын

Phione is the Palwolrd version of Manaphy.

@costby1105 7 ай бұрын

Ironically in Smogon Singles Keldeo often outperformed many Mythicals with Higher stat totals due to it having better distributed stats. In fact it is apparently one of the best Pokemon in BWOU and was in OU until Sword and Shield.

@evilbot2099 7 ай бұрын

>sees new mythical pokemon "oh that reminds me, which is the worst mythical pokemon?"

@toumabyakuya 7 ай бұрын

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@RabblesTheBinx 7 ай бұрын

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@toumabyakuya 7 ай бұрын

@@RabblesTheBinx Am just paying them in the same coin. If they want me to stop, then they will stop as well.

@banzaimarten9114 7 ай бұрын

if the answer is anything but phione i'm unfollowing

@vizzzyy190 7 ай бұрын

i love phione but youre not wrong 😭😂

@toumabyakuya 7 ай бұрын

@@p-__ Okay, could you please stop spamming this?.

@enoyna1001 7 ай бұрын

Meltan enters the chat

@AzureFlute 7 ай бұрын

*Kid named Meltan*

@banzaimarten9114 7 ай бұрын

@@enoyna1001 Meltan's close, but at least it has the luxury of becoming Melmetal. Phione is stuck with mediocrity forever

@andrewsun4385 7 ай бұрын

Personally I think of every Mythical Pokemon as objectively awesome in their own right.🌟🌟💯💯

@TheShadow1347 7 ай бұрын

Except for Phione

@RoyArkon 7 ай бұрын

I respect that attitude.

@Tablecuppz 7 ай бұрын

Laughs in phione and manaphy

@crawdaddy2004 7 ай бұрын

You wouldn’t if you saw the Hoopa movie.

@gaaraofthedesert801 7 ай бұрын

I lowkey HATE that ZARUDE was ranked higher than Hoopa XD that just feels wrong on so many levels

@Blanka767 7 ай бұрын

How pure water and pure steel (probably the best mono types) worst than grass/psychic? The BST rank don't make sense tho. Keldeo and Manaphy are both always going to be special attackers, their attack stat is useless, so Keldeo shouldn't lose in that category: If we remove the useless attack stat, Keldeo got a higher BST 72 - 580 = 508 100 - 600 = 500

@ShursGarden 7 ай бұрын

The ranking is honestly fairly flawed. Having an event shouldn’t factor into if it’s a good Pokemon or not, and its move pool *should.* additionally, what does it matter if it has a high BST if that BST isn’t distributed well? Additionally, alternate forms should be considered part of the same Pokemon. I *am* slightly salty my favorite mythic got the spot for the second set, but even at the start of the video I was thinking that the ranking system was fundamentally flawed.

@onetallpheeesh 7 ай бұрын

Hoopa dies to U-Turn and Knock Off respectively, the two most important moves in the game. Thats why its typing is bad.

@Cloud_Dancer 7 ай бұрын

I really wish that Hoopa-Unbound was dark/ghost instead of psychic/dark, not only would it be just as fitting lore wise but it would only have one weakness with fairy

@AzureFlute 7 ай бұрын

It's Meltan. Phione isn't even *that* weak compared to Meltan. Of the 600 BSTs though I think the worst is probably Celebi, unfortunately

@shyeazykoopa414 7 ай бұрын

Did you forget the meltan can evolve while phione cannot evolve end of statement just because I like celebi over both of them

@RoyArkon 7 ай бұрын

@@shyeazykoopa414 Meltan is still it's own Pokemon though.

@RoyArkon 7 ай бұрын

Bingo, right on that one.

@shyeazykoopa414 7 ай бұрын

@@RoyArkon your correct but it still has that option to become a better Pokémon while phione just stuck being what it is a discount disappointment without a future imo 🤣

@RoyArkon 7 ай бұрын

@@shyeazykoopa414 Except that Meltan and Melmetal, even though they evolve from each other, are still two different Pokemon. Also Phione has a much better Type and a much better ability, on top of Phione having much better stats than Meltan.

@poppyfrancis7338 7 ай бұрын

Weird as it is that Keldeo is a mythical yet is also a part of the swords of justice group, its base stats being lower hardly matters when the average mythical is base 100s across the board meaning that if they are offensively oriented, they aren't even using 100 of that BST and Keldeo has plenty of strong moves in its kit and a stat spread built for what it wants to do, but damn that it gets justified for an attack stat it isn't going to use

@axolotlstudios7918 7 ай бұрын

Completely subjectively, my favorite mythicals are marshadow, genesect and pecharunt

@DaWeirdBoiDareo 7 ай бұрын

Marshadow is also one of my favorites

@TheShadow1347 7 ай бұрын

My favorites are Arceus, Pecharunt, Mew and Jirachi

@McNotSassyLostChild 7 ай бұрын

Marshadow hoopa and G O D

@hankpeterschmidt8626 7 ай бұрын

I like pretty much every mythical except Arceus, Keldeo and Shaymin…

@Tablecuppz 7 ай бұрын

Pecharunt is MID. its fine but its a downgrade being related to the loyal 3 which are worse than trubbish

@edgarcubillan8046 7 ай бұрын

Zarude: ugly, bad signature move, mediocre lore, ultra WEAK to BUG type...it just doesn't belong in the category.

@Gilbert_Dice_Gottfried 7 ай бұрын

Zarude would’ve been better if he was the final evolution for grookey instead of rillaboom. I just don’t like rillaboom as much as grookey and twackey. Zarude doesn’t feel like a mythical either but he would’ve been one of the best final starter evolutions. Zarude fits grookey’s evolution line perfectly and I think zarude would’ve made that evolution line possibly the most interesting and best starter line. It would’ve been so cool.

@joshyotoast 7 ай бұрын

Zarude seen decent usuage in the 2nd to last series of swsh. I know their not as big a feat but I solo'd swsh with zarude (transferred from go so it was lv15) and its an absolute beast in raids and master rank in pogo. I will say it had the worst distribution tho as go to game shop during lockdown was just dumb 😂

@fourkz 7 ай бұрын

Phione is just kind of an extra one tacked on to Manaphy. Volcanion is probably the most over-designed and least cohesive design, it just looks awkward. Zarude is the most forgettable, it's just kinda there. Zeraora almost falls into the same trap as Zarude but it's saved by a good shiny and viability in battles.

@levijiles2473 7 ай бұрын

Well it's not darkrai darkrai is still my favorite pokemon

@toumabyakuya 7 ай бұрын

@@p-__ Okay, could you please stop spamming this?.

@monferno1 7 ай бұрын

Tbh Meltan and Phione are clearly intended to evolve, but they don’t, neither of them evolve in game, even Meltan once it leaves Pokémon Go does not evolve

@monferno1 7 ай бұрын

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@pussmagic1541 3 ай бұрын

Which really sucks, especially for Phione. I have an idea that Phione evolves into Manaphy at Level 35-40 or if they use a strong Water-Type move while Meltan evolves into Melmetal once it reaches Level 20-25 while holding the Metal Coat.

@Garde_Mystik 7 ай бұрын

Gen 6 mythicals be like "We don't got event but we got strength"

@steeliodoesminecraft2645 7 ай бұрын

I would push back against both hoopa's typing being "bad". Lunala and malamar have the same typing, and both have seen competitive use in doubles and singles respectively even with calyrex shadow running rampant for lunala.

@RoyArkon 7 ай бұрын

I think that Meltan is the worst one. Pure Steel-Type is excellent defensively but very bad offensively (unlike Phione's Water-Type) , also got the worst stats overall, and it's ability Magneto Pull is only working against one specific Type Pokemon, (unlike Keldeo which does need a very specific conduction to activate Justified but 1) that condition isn't limited to just one Type Pokemon and 2) the effect of the ability can last in the long run). I would go on say that Meltan is even worse than Hoopa, because at least Hoopa has the stats unlike Meltan.

@dericksmith6526 7 ай бұрын

How is pure water, a type with only two weaknesses, worse than water-fighting which has the same two weaknesses and an additional 3?

@frisbyart 7 ай бұрын

I think the mythicals I was always left completely unimpressed with was always either Phione or the Pixies (Mesprit, Uxie, and Azelf) or even Celebi. Phione because…well I honestly don’t even know why it exists in the first place. It’s just not interesting at all. The Pixies may have had a nice involving in the story during the Platinum game, but as overall mythical they a bland and forgettable. Celebi, I just NEVER got into it. I like the time travel aspect and all, but its design wasn’t always the most appealing thing to me, and as a design as a whole I tie it up with the Pixies as the blandest designs. But if I have to pick just one…I guess Azelf.

@EclairDeLarmes 6 ай бұрын

The Lake Trio definitely isn't composed of mythical Pokemon though, they are regular legendary Pokemon available in each cartridge and playthrough

@justinjyeung 7 ай бұрын

My personal, subjective vote goes to Volcanion as the "worst" due to its lack of overall impact. Ever since those good old Kalos Power Plant rumours for the event we never got, nobody's really talked about Volcanion, right? (Besides being the only Fire/Water type). And then, competitively speaking, I don't think it's ever made an impact (compared to, say, Shaymin, who was at least notorious for its powerful Seed Flare before)

@caitlinbrock357 7 ай бұрын

can I add something , what about in game lore . some have better lore than others. meltmeltal is a butt to evolve in one game

@maggiek8616 7 ай бұрын

Personally Phione isn't mythical. You can breed it infinitely from a Manaphy. I don't believe Meltan or Melmetal count either because you can catch any number of them, and mythicals shouldn't evolve.

@pussmagic1541 3 ай бұрын

Regardless how common or rare the Mythical Pokemon is, to me they're still Mythicals. The main thing is their existence has being questioned, not how many members of ANY Mythical Pokemon species there are roaming around. I think having more than one member of the same species of Mythical Pokemon is a good idea. I also like the idea of Mythical Pokemon being able to evolve, especially if they're intended to evolve. Those things make a Mythical Pokemon unique. Plus, I like the idea of Mythicals being able to breed. And also have discovered genders. Look at the English version of the Pokemon website, they said Diancie can either be male or female, even if it was more of an error unfortunately, and some Mythical Pokemon in Mystery Dungeon. Without those, what would a Mythical Pokemon be?

@justyouraveragechad9354 7 ай бұрын

I think the moves are worth a look. Hoopa got hyperspace hole and hyperspace fury

@Tablecuppz 7 ай бұрын

2 hypers

@NegronJames-yr4lb 7 ай бұрын

hes op attack and spe attack

@levijiles2473 7 ай бұрын

Im personal fine without an event i don't getting a mythical in a mystery gift

@mattsimeon8474 7 ай бұрын

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@damlatorun6756 7 ай бұрын

It’s zarude. That thing’s mediocre in every way possible

@levijiles2473 7 ай бұрын

Wolf is wrong hoopa type combinations are really good

@GoinGreninja 7 ай бұрын

In which ways, if you don't mind me asking?

@toumabyakuya 7 ай бұрын

Are you saying that you know more than a World Champion?.

@Topdoggie7 7 ай бұрын

How so?

@levijiles2473 7 ай бұрын

@@toumabyakuya i know a lot about pokemon weakness

@levijiles2473 7 ай бұрын

@GoinGreninja im just saying if a type has 3 or 2 weaknesses it's not that bad

@Hamza....987 7 ай бұрын

Yay phione us in the thumbnail *Sees titel Oh )^;

@MegaShepardsPie 7 ай бұрын

You can have all the stats you want, if the move pool doesn't back them up, you're going to have a bad time.

@logicavietii4461 7 ай бұрын

Iron first on meltmetal beeing 3rd worse, yea sorry but it is imposible to belive that

@safar3905 7 ай бұрын

Make a video about possible tera form pokemons, like Gmax or mega forms. I think it's a good idea.

@TitaniumWerewolf 7 ай бұрын

It’s gonna be hard to determine which Pokemon to do, like yeah maybe a tera flying kingambit as a joke but who else

@master12344 7 ай бұрын

lol I should take a shot every time he says “objective” 😂

@Eric-gp3hi 7 ай бұрын

I think these rankings are on the right track.

@outcastpenguin3518 7 ай бұрын

I feel like you also have to compare their move pools and their base Stat distribution rather than just total. Having a high special attack is great, but it's basically useless if you don't have any good special attacking moves, or if your attack is substantially better. Plus having good attack or sp attack is meaningless if you don't have either good defenses or good speed. In addition some of these pokemon, including hoopa unbound, have signature moves that can make them broken.

@tlst94 10 күн бұрын

What if every game had a 150 Regional Dex? While catching them all was always easier. And if Professors gave us Event Items as rewards for Dex Completions so we can access new areas and catch Mythicals? How'd that have been like?

@kayoh9364 7 ай бұрын

There's some nuance to be had in terms of stats, even when theyre the same totals. How well stats complement a typing, movepool, etc can greatly impact a pokemon's viability, and even outside of competitive viability how well those things complement any gimmick a pokemon has can affect how well or negatively it's perceived. For instance - Mew, ancestor of all pokemon? Yeah, it makes sense that it would have perfectly balanced stats and access to every TM. Darkrai, bringer of nightmares? Makes sense it would be scary offensively, have powerful sleep-based moves and abilities (before they nerfed it anyways), and be a Dark type. That's definitely getting into more subjective qualities as well as more actual game knowledge than what you'll get off of tier lists and youtube videos though. You could even average out the Smogon tier rankings throughout all their appearances, but that probably unfairly biases early gens vs late gens - less pokemon means less competition for high spots.

@damlatorun6756 7 ай бұрын

Spot-on. That’s the only reason quagsire is good.

@Poketuber33-c2l 7 ай бұрын

Arceus is awesome and the God of all Pokémon and honestly should have been a legendary, seriously why isn't he especially with a game named after him. I do think Phione is the weakest and absolutely should evolve into Manaphy it makes no sense for her/it not to.

@pussmagic1541 3 ай бұрын

Finally I'm not the only person that thinks Arceus should have been a legendary instead of a Mythical Pokemon. He's the creator of the Sinnoh region and created the Creation Trio and the Lake Trio. I don't see Arceus as a Mythical Pokemon, but instead a Legendary Pokemon. I agree with Phione should be able to evolve into Manaphy. My idea is Phione evolves into Manaphy at Level 30 at least or if they learn a strong Water-Type move like Hyrdo Pump for example.

@NolanKernaghn 7 ай бұрын

Replace hoopa with zarude

@prof.thiagoalmeida1226 7 ай бұрын

Arceus' ability is actually pretty bad when you think about it, even more so after the introduction of Ogerpon, which uses the same dynamic of changing type depending on a held item, but has different abilities depending on the item as well. They didi Arceus dirt.

@BigPat216 7 ай бұрын

Really hoping it's not just Phione like every other video about this. Just started watching.

@RoseSupreme 7 ай бұрын

Take a shot every time he says "with that said" or just "though" in general.

@joshyotoast 7 ай бұрын

The result made me laugh because im doing a mythical nuzlocke of scarlet and the only 2 mons to die so far are both hoopa forms 😂

@edu.8552 7 ай бұрын

Arceus needs a buff. As amazing as they are, they are a GOD.

@arininquotes8396 7 ай бұрын

I love it's design, typing, ability, event, etc., but there's a case to be made for Pecharunt too, since you need to pay for the DLC to be able to access it. Paywalling mythicals ain't cool.

@pussmagic1541 3 ай бұрын

Same for pay walling Keldeo for the Crown Tundra DLC in Sword and Shield and Meloetta in the Indigo Disk DLC in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet. Plus a good chunk of Mythicals locked up because you have to have save data for a certain game on the Switch.

@ricardofuentesgutierrez1442 6 ай бұрын

PHIONE i have no doubt, haven't seen the video yet, but it's Phione

@The_One_In_Black 7 ай бұрын

Effectively, Arceus has adaptability, since each Plate gives a bonus to attacks of that type.

@joshuairvine2002 7 ай бұрын

Phione.

@joshuairvine2002 7 ай бұрын

I knew it. Pointless Pokémon.

@ChuckleStevensonTV 7 ай бұрын

Phione

@GoinGreninja 7 ай бұрын

Phione definitely is pointless, but Zarude definitely has to be the weakest even when he has 600BST.

@evilbot2099 7 ай бұрын

Phione

@toumabyakuya 7 ай бұрын

@@p-__ Okay, could you please stop spamming this?.

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@songo4950 3 ай бұрын

Looking only about number of total stats and not stats distribution is not good way to evaluate that list.

@adammorgan7950 7 ай бұрын

Dude takes 12 minutes to just get to the point.

@delllee4915 7 ай бұрын

To the person spamming the same thing about your farts in every comment, I've reported you to the authorities about your spamming. Consider yourself on my hate list. As to the video topic, if I had to pick the objectibely worst.... Mew. Im sorry mew fans, but Mew just doesnt feel like its an amazing pokemon. Being able to use every move just isn't special enough, considering Ditto and Smeargle can do the same thing. Also, Mew's design feels mediocre. Thats all i wanna say.

@johanstenfelt1206 7 ай бұрын

Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, pretty nice Ranking, I wonder what is the Case for Legendary Pokémon?

@plentyofpaper 7 ай бұрын

I'd like to see an attempt to objectively measure base stats beyond just base stat total. Typically, it's better to specialize in a couple stats than to be perfectly well rounded. A Pokemon with base 100 across the board is definitely going to be worse than a Pokemon with 0 Special Attack and 120 in all other stats, despite having the same total. But what's the best way to measure this objectively? First, we want to be quantitative. Next, we want to reward high stats more than we punish low stats. Exponents is a great way to do this. Unfortunately, this raises the rather murky thing of what exponent to use. I'll somewhat arbitrarily pick 1.5. 6*100^1.5=6000 for our base 100 across the board Pokemon. 5*120^1.5=6573 for our 0 in a single stat Pokemon. About 9.5% better. I'm not spending too much time on this, but that seems reasonable to me. The base 120 model should definitely not score under 20% better than the base 100 version. Naturally, there are limitations. You don't want the 0 stat to be HP. Either defense at 0 without ludicrous HP would also be a big issue. Speed+Attack or special attack is valuable, but speed+Def or special defense, less so. It could be we want a higher or lower exponential constant. But I think this model should function pretty well in the real world scenario we have here, as none of our mythicals have extreme lopsidedness.