The WORST PREMIUM to happen since the KA-50? - 2S38

[@bagofsunshine3916]

Right, now they might aswell add a PUMA variant that actually has it's missiles. EDIT: Yes, i know. they added it, took em only 2 years and it's really not that great sadly

[@Maradoxa]

BUT its premium

[@13deadghosts]

I would be happy if they would just fix the god damn puma.

[@bagofsunshine3916]

@@Maradoxa oh ofcourse it would be. Otherwise the poor Gaijin employees might starve.

[@Maradoxa]

@@bagofsunshine3916 and dont forget the hamsters

[@Igzilee]

@The Bear Rich people will almost always want more money even if it is useless to them. Oh, and they will obviously keep it for themselves while probably paying employees just a moderate salary.

[@anotheralpharius2056]

I think with gaijn adding this they should give the HSTV-L its final reload rate of 0.8 seconds and its proxy fuse rounds

[@colejones594]

I just want its actual pen it should be equivalent of m774

[@Bruh-fc7ik]

Agreed. HSTV-L is a full BR higher despite only having Gen 1 thermals, twice the reload time, dogshit post pen damage for the only round it can use, and a meh ammo capacity. Hell if they gave HSTV-L it’s proxy rounds and real reload speed, I’d be fine with it getting a bump to 11.0

[@colejones594]

@@Bruh-fc7ik should t it have the air lock like puma and 2s38 gets

[@Bruh-fc7ik]

@@colejones594 technically yes, it had one of the first IRST tracking systems, designed to lock onto both ground and air targets. With that said, if that were to be added along with proxy, it’s true reload, and accurate round pen values it would have to be put up to 11.0-11.3. Even at that BR I don’t think it would be fully balanced

[@colejones594]

@@Bruh-fc7ik i think it would be perfectly balanced at 11.0 if they actually gave it historical features

[@Intellgenttwig]

I like how you can play this ,the su25k ,turms T and bmp2m at 9.7

[@Thunderbox247]

just need a designated SPAA and you got the full set

[@Haloguyxboxftw]

Russia truly suffers

[@normallymute0131]

@@Thunderbox247 this thing is the designated AA

[@cleverlaziness]

waiting for BTR-80 tho

[@pvt.bushmann5903]

@@cleverlaziness Completely unnecessary at the moment, Russia doesn't need any more top tier vehicles for the moment

[@MrPanggs]

This thing is at 9.7 while the HSTVL is at 10.7 HSTVL has no: radar, spalling, proxy rounds, 2S38 has: far better spalling on a smaller round, generation 3 thermals, proxy round, SPAA radar...

[@koendekortdk2198]

Soviet mains suffer

[@ryzkiguruh2942]

Its gaijin tactic, put OP prem on lower BR so people buy it, then put it on higher BR

[@tankistrazumist]

2S38 has exactly the same spalling as hstvl or even slightly less. hstvl also has better armor, much better mobility and hstvl is lower.

[@shamrock3957]

Ah yes "Russian Bias" I thought we dismissed those claims.

[@RYNOCIRATOR_V5]

found Spookston

[@mapl12]

I love when gaijn adds more overpowered premiums instead of giving vehicles to lower nations

[@jackbreeden8555]

That’s literally what this update did why you cryin

[@СалаватАбашев-е6щ]

Meanwhile Italy: got a 1.3 car and an export SPANISH Centauro while still having dozens of cool actually Italian wehicles that are not in the game because whatever.

[@mapl12]

@@jackbreeden8555 that's not what I meant, gaijn keeps adding useless top tiers when there are so many unique vehicles for the lower nations (besides Sweden which is basically Italy but Finnish)

[@OMGiTzSpAnKy]

Thanks for proving ridiculously stupid people on the internet are. Try looking at the Sweden tree for 2 seconds next time you start up the game. Every other nation received 1-2+ vehicles as well.

[@СалаватАбашев-е6щ]

@@mapl12 I'd say Italy could only dream to be as good as Sweden right now, since Italian rank 7 is arguably worst in the game.

[@anarchyandempires5452]

Me: it can't be that overpowered. Destroyed 2 tanks, 3 aircraft and intercepted an aircraft bomb mid flight....all in 45 seconds. Me: well shit I stand corrected.

[@AxlePlaysGames]

@@chadtheboris Begleit: Tech tree 2S38: R U S S I A N B I A S

[@lexinator5183]

Gaijin: should we add more vechicles into tech trees that have less tanks and planes? The Evil Snail: NO ADD MORE MONEY MAKERS!

[@lexinator5183]

@The Bear it was a little more copy and paste but yes it is nice to see Sweden have more Tanks

[@EasyAL_YT]

@@cerealru1069 Copy and paste or not... they have better lineups now. What are you on about?

[@augustas2592]

@@cerealru1069 i play sweden. And now i dont need to grind germany for 10 years to play 2A6🙂

[@EvilCouncil]

Lol, true. Russia has fucking 17(!) extremely competitive tanks in top tier line up, together with 3 broken heli's and MiG-27K. Meanwhile Germany has 2 Leo's, both with horrible thermals and that's pretty much it. You die 2 times and it's over. 2vs17 is completely fine and balanced. No Russian BIAS at all comrade. You can die 15 times and still able to spawn out yet another T-80 variant. Absolutely disgusting.

[@blowbert9126]

This tank was very much needed. Adding more OP tanks to a nation that has 80% winrates at this BR already is truly awesome game design.

[@shaggings]

80% at 9.7? I call bullshit.

[@blowbert9126]

@@shaggings ok...its actually 73%

[@shaggings]

@@blowbert9126 9.7 is at 49% for russia.

[@EasyAL_YT]

@@shaggings If that's true then the Russian tech tree players are vegetables. Turmst, bmp 2m and Frogfoot and now this all at 9.7... and they get 49% win rate -.-

[@shaggings]

@@EasyAL_YT I mean shouldn't everyone who has played WT for atleast a hundred hours know that 9.0-10.0 is full of noobs (there is so many memes about "average Turms-T players") who bought a couple premiums and are dogshit at the game.

[@Dumbed_Down]

Truly a joke when you see lvl 10s using it

[@aspenmangamingwt5403]

Agreed, but it’s terrifying when an experienced player uses this thing to its full potential

[@stevenortiz9008]

@@aspenmangamingwt5403 and that's where I think it should be restricted,to the last part of light vehicles in the tech tree,not for GE Also, venezuelans couldn't ever buy this in a year

[@aspenmangamingwt5403]

@@stevenortiz9008 this shouldn’t have come as a premium, and it was also like quickly added to the game. I don’t remember seeing this thing on the dev server

[@fishfishfishfishfishfish9834]

@@aspenmangamingwt5403 yeah it wasn't on the Dev server, because if it would have been there, the players would have noticed how awfully good it is and maybe gaijin would have to change something then

[@SldOnEmWithDa45]

@@stevenortiz9008 it can’t be anymore annoying than the BMP-2M that’s already in the game 😂

[@LucyKaida]

Love how they took the M247's AP to prevent it being anti-everything then add this crap

[@user-br4qp4pw2o]

Love how they nerfed my ZSU-57-2 yust to appease the German mains so that we can not kill their Leopards. Russia CAN'T have nice things. WE NEEDED PROXY MUNITION FOR YEARS. If they yust given it to ZSU then there wouldnt be this debacle to beginn with

[@reinbeers5322]

@@user-br4qp4pw2o Lmao no, the ZSU-57-2 still has the full APHE belt with the same 151mm of pen and is completely capable of killing Leopards from any angle, unlike the Kugelblitz which got nerfed THRICE now - HVAP only on every 3rd shot, pen nerf to 77mm so it _conveniently_ just barely can't pen the sides of many russian vehicles with 80mm side armor, and now it's 7.0, up from 6.7. The ZSU-57-2 itself never used the HE-VT rounds itself, only the chinese one did because they made them. Cry about it + cope + seethe + mald.

[@sir.tempest5718]

@@user-br4qp4pw2o lmao, y’all don’t NEED anything else for awhile. You WANT more things. The minor nations NEED more.

[@Edo_Ginting]

@@user-br4qp4pw2o Chinese version gets it and it sits at 8.0

[@isaactaylor2044]

Great, let's give the most OP vehicle ever added to the team that absolutely stomps top tier anyways

[@eaststarling7805]

Lmao Soviet Winrate ar 9.7 is only 40%

[@GalaxyGmWT]

@@eaststarling7805 because of the Turms-T players.

[@HorizonStronghold]

@@eaststarling7805 It’s 76%, wtf are you talking about?

[@eaststarling7805]

@@HorizonStronghold In the last 2 months, it was 45%

[@HorizonStronghold]

@@eaststarling7805 the last two months were 72% followed by 76%. The two months before that were around 40-50, and then for an entire f*cking YEAR before that it didn’t drop below 70%, even reaching A F*CKING 91% WIN RATE for one month. So, no. The top comment is correct, you do not suffer nor did you need this tank.

[@Bill-dozer]

I don't even play this game, not sure why it popped up in the algorithm for me. Still, been enjoying the hell out of your content. I don't understand half the stuff you're seeing as you so skillfully rack up kills, but it's a pleasure watching you do so.

[@chish7690]

unfortunately his great skill is overshadowed by the pay-to-win content he's covering

[@bickboose9364]

And the strangely high survivability of the vehicles he has (along with other youtubers) on the press account.

[@theborg7481]

Who asked for this vehicle?

[@ruub9971]

@@bickboose9364 Bruh. A good player gets lucky matches. Most KZbinrs obviously only show good games..

[@bickboose9364]

@@ruub9971 I still suspect they get stealth priviledges to advertise the game as being way more fun than it actually is.

[@edriawaltz87]

Gaijin logic : "Oh the Puma is so strong. let make one with better gun can shoot plane and make it Russian."

[@reinbeers5322]

A gun that is so much better, that it has more pen on the APHE shell than the PUMA has on its darts.

[@moonmoon3429]

Autocannons with Aphe is always terrifying to go against

[@petrkdn8224]

*If you play light vehicles

[@BB-np4ib]

@@petrkdn8224 it can oneshot an abrams from the side

[@petrkdn8224]

@@BB-np4ib you can one shot any MBT from the side with a 2.0 vehicle , what's your point? German PUMA is can do the same as the 2s38

[@BB-np4ib]

@@petrkdn8224 The point is that this thing will get a broken wr while a 2.0 at 10 wont. And it shits on pumas.

[@casematecardinal]

@@petrkdn8224 russiaboo detected, opinion ignored

[@derrickstorm6976]

"So good that no one could replace you?" *wiggles for "no"* everyone: *What!? What the f-*

[@jbeverley67]

Something Russia absolutely positively did not need

[@stevenortiz9008]

And premium to make it worse

[@rashesttuba88]

nah the 80%+ winrate that top tier russia has needs to be higher

[@woda_0]

tbh It would've been a better idea to put the 2s38 as a tech tree vehicle instead of a premium, making people actually work for it

[@OhhLoz]

@@woda_0 make the vehicle appear more? lol no

[@Bruh-fc7ik]

@@OhhLoz I don’t think it could appear more if they wanted it to. I’ve actually ran into RB mixed battles soviets vs soviets, every person was in one apart from my Abrams and another guys Bradley

[@thefunnyguyfromtheburgerki3334]

This thing has literally only entered service _this year_ So now I'm just waiting for the SEPV3 or 2A7

[@ivanbarbancon8750]

Not entered service, it is still in testing phase. That doesn’t mean the military units will use it other than for testing purposes YET…

[@stevenortiz9008]

Like the Maus,or the kikka,either didn't enter service or didn't shoot once

[@DragoneyeVII]

@@stevenortiz9008 Cringe Z tard

[@Tuck-Shop]

@@stevenortiz9008 The Maus was withdrawn from the tech tree once Germany had enough vehicles.

[@Adrirenn]

@@stevenortiz9008 like object 279 ye

[@cyanide7270]

"Wah! Gaijin! I didnt get the Pt-76-57! wah!" "No problem! **Releases Pt-57s big brother**"

[@CrazyDutchguys]

BUT ITS PREMIUM ))))))

[@EATSxBABIES]

So this thing is a pure power fantasy at this point right? I mean it's dart has less than half the mass of the HSTVL, nearly the same velocity and yet it's got better post pen.....some how?

[@bickboose9364]

It's also fired 2x times faster and there's alot more of it than the 26 rounds in the HSTV-L.

[@fomnik9276]

this legendary gun going from asu-57 into the 21 century on BMP-3 base

[@krunchie101]

What I'm baffled about is how did Gaijin get the specs for a vehicle that hasn't even entered service yet?

[@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov]

Small caliber darts are completely f-ed up in WT, look at CV90, they basically have no spalling at all

[@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov]

@@fomnik9276 it have nothing to asu-57 for exception of caliber, it's based of S-60 which is available in game on ZSU-57-2

[@vitokhait9696]

Russian mains: - We need a spaa for the 8.0 - 11.0 gap Gaijin: - Here's a OP fancy pants vehicle. Oh you gotta pay for it too.

[@ExcavationNation]

On a side note thanks for the consistent uploads:)

[@zerrierslizer1]

ok so, Protip when fighting this thing: if you know where it is or where it is coming from, preload HE or HESH, as hitting the turret flush with that kills all of the crew beneath. but try not to hit the cannon unless you are facing the side of it, as the barrel will stop the explosive power from reaching the top of the vehicle.

[@zerrierslizer1]

@CHAD THE BORIS that works too, unless it is Hull Down, in which case my tip is incredibly useful.

[@pyrotechnicalbirdman5356]

@@zerrierslizer1 mine got

[@zerrierslizer1]

@@pyrotechnicalbirdman5356 yours got what? saying only that means nothing as the context is literally non-existant.

[@pyrotechnicalbirdman5356]

@@zerrierslizer1 I misspelled it, it was meant to be "mein gott"

[@zerrierslizer1]

@@pyrotechnicalbirdman5356 sure it was.

[@JimmyEatDirt]

Can't wait until simulator mode based on real events where this just doesn't appear on the battlefield

[@LeSprozdon]

Its just a cardboard cover over a guy on a bicycle 😆

[@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537]

Is the Russian MIC actually just LockMart making vaporware cardboard bodykits to increase US budget allocation? Is Gaijin actually part of a double glow squad overselling Russian equipment and making us leak documents so they can achieve a constant new equipment demand cycle? Macintosh Plus //plays This and other questions you ask yourself in the barracks shower.

[@hecunotmakingalogisquad5785]

@CHAD THE BORIS exactly

[@libbybouncer12345]

That thing also has suspension control and to answer his question of "is there a feature this tank doesn't have" it doesn't have a flamethrower

[@bickboose9364]

This poor thing clearly lacks much needed Relikt ERA and Kornet missiles 😢

[@ezragregory2748]

How broken do you want the new premium for Russia Gajin: Yes

[@Richard_T800]

Atleast it didn't get programmable ammunition

[@stevemartegani]

That thing needs to be a higher BR than the Otomattic...

[@razgrizz5996]

Its literally like the Puma and Begleit had a baby. its a premium, has APHE, and darts, AA tracking, proxy, its massively broken

[@Deus_Invictus]

I'd say its more like hstvl + beleit = this pos

[@unlink1649]

puma has a tracking radar as well tho. Just that the puma doesn't have this much gun

[@casematecardinal]

@@unlink1649 also its programmable shells dont work correctly

[@casematecardinal]

@CHAD THE BORIS are you actually going to sit here and claim the puma is better? Don't make me laugh.

[@reinbeers5322]

@CHAD THE BORIS "no first stowage which means it can fire endlessly until it depletes all of its ammo" I can see you've never played the PUMA. The gun will overheat and jam if you fire ~35rds continuously, which have less pen than the 2S38's *APHE* shells, and less spalling and half the pen of the 2S38's darts. There is no proxy fuzed HE. The ammorack is as wide and half as tall as the turret itself, being more exposed than the 2S38's. The armor actually has spalling turned on, unlike russia's top tier tanks so you won't just lose one crew member when a dart penetrates all your armor. Every coping russia main keeps saying the PUMA has better armor, but unless you have room temperature IQ, any darts at its BR will fly right through it. The armor is made to stop chemical rounds, not kinetic ones.

[@W.D_Gaster625]

This tank is literally a swiss army knife of adaptations for any scenario

[@normallymute0131]

May I remind you this thing has 20 round APFSDS + HEVT rounds, no crew turret, Gen 2 thermals, radar and everything else and the CCVL from last event is 10.0 with Gen 1 thermals

[@aries6537]

cant blame anyone but america for using monkey thermals

[@ExHyperion]

@@aries6537 America literally invented thermals bruh gaijin just doesn’t like the US

[@Azachor]

Gen 3 thermals I think

[@Dutcheh]

@@aries6537 russia buys thermals from a french company for some of their top tier vehicles. The company even stated the thermals are kinda shit in comparison

[@BlueScreenOfDeathPL]

@@aries6537 Russian 2010-2020 tanks are fighting tanks from 1990s and yet Russians use worse thermals irl as they can't produce them on their own. But yeah let's assume best scenarios for USSR and worst for other nations :)

[@ferociousfil5747]

Russia’s vehicle line up in the game is as unicorns and fantasy land as the real thing…

[@mattbrown7935]

PT-76-57 + HSTV-L + PUMA + Begleit, what could go wrong?..

[@Modeus_]

And better than all of them in every way other than the begleit's missile

[@stalinsmoonrover343]

@@Modeus_ the bagels 🥯 missiles aren’t the greatest unless it’s a down tier or the enemies side is exposed when it comes to shooting it at mbts but you have free rain to curb the light takes with it

[@Modeus_]

@@stalinsmoonrover343 I've used the bagel a whole lot of games and you can definitely find success against any tank firing the missile into a weakspot.

[@fandaeckert1915]

This is the reason why I will be on the low BR Germany and Finland having some fun with sd.kfz 251/9 and the BT-42 or the Italian meme-mobile with 312 shells.

[@ericschneider7174]

low tier is fun tier

[@ideadlift20kg83]

Italy being the most anemic tech tree in the game. Gaijin "How about another top tier vehicle for russia"

[@DarkButz]

I love how they give it APHE that has more pen than the PUMA's APFSDS AND a 200mm+ pen APFSDS and just make it 0.4BR higher than the PUMA. Why not just make the game an auto-victory for the Russians each time? Game starts and whichever side has the Russians (or more Russians for AB) immediately sees the victory screen.

Playing Russia is already easy mode anyway, so yeah, they may as well just make it even easier

[@PaletoB]

We could all go on strike when facing russian vehicles. If everybody just quits they'll wouldn't get many points 😈

[@justanothergopnik3550]

What basically Gajgin did there was tell regular players that they can´t have master of all trades (like Begleit) for free and when it´s not Russian tank

[@simeontinkov4939]

I mean at least it’s doesn’t have a atgm like the beleit 💀

[@casematecardinal]

@@simeontinkov4939 you mean the tow missile that doesn't even perform consistently

[@reinbeers5322]

@@simeontinkov4939 You mean the basic bitch TOW that is worse than a 7.3 MILAN, or the slightly better I-TOW that is still worse than any TOW-2 and worse than the HOTs? Non tandem, isn't top down, can't proxy fuze... All it has going for it is that on the rare offchance you spot something it can overpressure or something without composite armor, it's... somewhat useful.

[@JessWLStuart]

I LOVE the intro! Yay! "This dip looks swell!" - OddBawZ, 2022 Me: "Hmmm OddBawZ seems confused! Can dips be swollen?"

[@IsurusOxyrinchus]

That intro makes even the PUMA look cute :)

[@ErulianADRaghath]

Let me guess, when Gaijin inevitably introduces the T-14 Armata and its friends, they too, will be hella overpowered.

[@prancer8934]

At this rate I wont be surprised if they introduce a T-15

[@blomgaming6480]

The T-14 doesnt exist

[@dominiksoukal]

@@blomgaming6480 it exist in vatnik dreams

[@pops6172]

@@blomgaming6480 kzbin.info/www/bejne/epSthnuZm9B7n7s

[@thatcarguydom266]

@@blomgaming6480 there are a few dozen functioning models, but none have actually seen combat.

[@zevirkann9755]

This thing has everything to deal with pretty much everything. Totally P2W if it stays at 9.7, and I don't use that word lightly.

[@rubengildenhuys8962]

Ngl, I think this would still be fine at 11.0

[@booperdooper8197]

I haven’t been playing WT for a while now ive actually kinda forgotten about it alot…ive lost track of updates and everything. Im glad though. Im happy and I have my money still.

[@OddBawZ]

USE THIS LINK TO GET 3% OFF AND MY DECAL ON THE STORE: store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?category=WarThunder&partner=Oddbawz&partner_val=2bpa5qx4

[@Bladz11]

Hi

[@ExcavationNation]

You forgot to pin this :)

[@devgrugaming]

It might be op but nearly 95% of the people that buy it are missing all their brain cells.

[@NoName-sy3di]

Yea its still not really a head on vic. You CAN head on some things like a leopard and russian t72s and stuff but you have to get their barrels first

[@captainRcornelius]

Now all it needs is a finishing touch of Relikt ERA all around and some APS on top like the Black Knight has

[@bickboose9364]

And Kornets like the BMP-2M.

[@kingslayer2]

There is a t15 variant with this gun and ataka with aps and era but it's probably paper only but they will add it at some point

[@MS-wz9jm]

@@bickboose9364 This in IRL is an anti aircraft gun. Strange how they added it in game. We are lucky they didnt add the BMP3 with the new epoch turret (57mm, 4x Kornet, 8x Bulat - mini kornet missiles)

[@tacticalpossum7090]

Anything that makes CAS a pain gets big likes in my book, and Im by far not the only one. Gaijin may be finally hearing us when it comes to CAS dominance.

[@ghost0d077]

Dude that thing is OP ridiculously soo I'll stay at 5.7 thank you very much

[@PorWik]

I’m certain with the amount of premiums you could isolate all of the premium players into their own match maker and try to keep the bs contained

[@badcompany6207]

AYO! I was in the first match the SU25 “Badcompany620” Cool to see you OddBawZ I had no idea you were in my match tho. A few of them started spawn camping after I got shot down tho sadly.

[@XenoPoopz]

In case you guys didn't see his community post. Phly will be back this Monday! :)

[@Fredericodolphino93]

Bad company 2 was an absolute beast of a game I played it non stop

[@wyatth473]

Looking at that new map... Im convinced no human ever touched the development of it, the past couple ground rb maps feel like they're designed by bots.

[@frostedbutts4340]

An AI could unironically generate better random maps.

[@wyatth473]

@@frostedbutts4340 at this point, honestly yeah.

[@Richard_T800]

90% of the maps are trash The BR system and the Maps are the worst features of War Thunder

[@CrazyDutchguys]

Only gaijin would put a vehicle shown as a tech demontrator in 2020 at 9.7 against vehicles that dont even have thermals whatsoever

[@CrazyDutchguys]

@CHAD THE BORIS Taking Germany as an example, the KPZ-70, radkampfwagen, Leo2K all do not have thermals. Theres other vehicles at the same BR with the same problem. The fact that Gen 3 thermals exist as the same BR as NO thermals is a BIG problem.

[@CrazyDutchguys]

@CHAD THE BORIS Do you lack comprehensive reading skills? I used Germany as an example, I even said other vehicles also suffer from the same problem. How do you miss a point that badly? The whole point of my comment is the fact that Gen3 thermals are facing tanks with no thermals. Stop acting like a toxic child and realize that this is a problem. Not only that, the t-72 TURMS gets thermals at 9.7, so you're wrong about that too.

[@abdellahiehreimo3402]

Best WT Intros are those of ODDBawz period much love

[@steakenjoyer9012]

Devs are just fucking with us at this point, might as well just go outside and save the stress :)

[@jonathan_0]

this thing can one shot some top tier MBTs from the front. Thank you Gaijin, very cool

[@fire_drake12.arc.24]

Literally the HSTV-L but better at 9.7... nice balancing, russia really needed this.

[@MS-hw3xt]

The need a morale boost for the next 300.000.

[@normal-potato05]

I was test driving this thing and holy hell Russian bias + Puma (or begleit) + PT-76-57 + radar spaa Odd needs to play this Thx for the content

[@normal-potato05]

But Russia literally has the 9.7 Premium line up, BMP-2M (squadron but idc) T-72 Turms SU-25 Frogfoot And now this

[@nikoclesceri2267]

the PUMA and Bradly are also radar SPAA as well as the BMP-2s in game

[@xX_M-AZING_Xx]

Would be really cool to see you play with Bruce Lerroy, the VR Heli Pilot. Would love to see y’all coordinate together 👍

[@loc1123]

also noteworthy, while the puma actually exists, this thing is a concept with like 1 built? so much for no paper tanks. it feels like they for some reason, actually added this to cope with irl deficencies

[@jacksonrhodes1500]

Glad to see this added, Russia really struggles at 9.7 This is a joke

[@koendekortdk2198]

My 9.0 german grind will get even worse

[@EasyAL_YT]

@@koendekortdk2198 Germany has a really good 9.7 ground lineup so it'll payoff. Only lacking in the CAS department.

[@koendekortdk2198]

@@EasyAL_YT Not as good as russia, our mbts are shit - no thermals.

[@fire_drake12.arc.24]

@@koendekortdk2198 nobody is as good as russia at top tier besides China since they are just Russia 2.0 and now Sweden since they have a bunch of russian tanks now. Other than that western tanks are all artificially nerfed and shit while russian ones are bolstered (literally proven in coding). Great game balance right? Theres no bias at all.

[@TheIrishBread]

@@koendekortdk2198 only Russian mbt at 9.7 with thermals is the premium, we don't even get gen1 till 10.0.

[@DontStealMyNoEffortName]

one thing I hate about being on the ground is when there's a few planes up as they make it harder to hear tanks

[@sushiman3817]

Russia 9.7 was already one of the best lineups with only two tanks (Turms and bmp-2m), but it was still debate able if it was THE BEST.....now? It's the best, non-negotiable.

[@fire_drake12.arc.24]

funny thing is that whole lineup consists of horrendously under-BR'd vehicles besides the TURMS. The TURMS only needs to be 10.0, but the BMP-2M and this new thing should absolutely not be lower than 10.7

[@dominiksoukal]

Don't forget the SU-25

[@derekpieboy7952]

Wow, as soon as I saw this thing drop this morning all I could think was that this vheicle is blatant proof of russian bias in war thunder. Seems I was exactly right too! Why cant we just get new vehicles at lower br that aren't just crappy meme tanks? Gaijin pls help!

[@joshuabologna8719]

There is absolutely Russian bias. It's so blatantly obvious. Gaijin is just straight up an awful company.

[@spideysquestionablyusedcha5069]

I just want *actual* tanks for high tier. IFV's are ruining high and top tier.

[@PhoenixOfArcadia]

@@joshuabologna8719 It's been blatantly obvious for years with Top Tier. Russian Top tier tanks are given an artificial bonus to make them stronger, most well known is the fact that it's specifically coded so their top tier tanks don't have internal spalling when hit. Not to mention the fact that their turret racks rarely seem to detonate when hit, something that has been shown to be NOT the case as a result of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

[@ferociousfil5747]

Who own the game again and where are they from?

[@dominiksoukal]

@@ferociousfil5747 they're vatniks

[@Fiddlesticks63]

The BT-42 and IJN Fusō are definitely my favorite additions in this update.

[@bikezone8099]

Glad you said it Odd, it has completely fisted 9.7. I've died in my hind or any cas for that matter at over 5km to this thing at full speed because the shells and lead indicator are that good and the apfsds on it just completely demolishes everything. The puma was bloody strong when this came out but playing 9.7 Germany now is absolute pain.. also screw bmp2ms

[@cyrisd4virus117]

I mean the fact you have to use an aircraft in GROUND REALISTIC is just sad bro.

[@bikezone8099]

@@cyrisd4virus117 it's a combined arms game bro go play WOT if you don't like cas lmao. The reply was more in line not just against aircraft too, the 2s38 is completely busted against ground vehicles too for its current br

[@DeadNoob451]

@@bikezone8099 lol if it prevents the revenge bomb cheesing then we need more vehicles like this. Skill based matches are always preferable to one's with a lot of plane spam.

[@bikezone8099]

@@DeadNoob451 if you're sat in the same spot man when I have to fly 14km to get to the battle then that's on you lmao. All the same I don't like revenge bombing either. I don't have an issue with most SPAA either dude but this thing has literally everything. Imagine if the bagel had the tracker? It would break 9.3/8.3 games entirely for the same reason. That's all I'm saying

[@cyrisd4virus117]

@@bikezone8099 last time I checked the game mode was called ground realistic, not combined arms. If it was called combined arms I would not have made the comment in the first place. I mean you dont see helicopters being used in air realistic do you.

[@dovahkiin3526]

IRST tracking plus proxy fuse shells is insane on this thing

[@simeontinkov4939]

I know it’s great I hate top tier CAS

[@kappy5627]

@@simeontinkov4939 well you hate cas but SU 25 is the worst cas to face against, and now they added a anti air thats decent but for the same nation that has the SU 25

[@simeontinkov4939]

@@kappy5627 su25 doesn’t have thermals and every country has like 5 things they can use as CAS

[@kappy5627]

@@simeontinkov4939 i mean you dont really need thermals if ur up in the air, atleast if your experienced enough but other countries dont have as good cas as the russians

[@ivanbarbancon8750]

this thing is not even finished testing atm, its ammos are not developped, still in concept phase, but gaijin knows all stats ofc LOL... and they add this OP and pay2win thing "to add 9.7 spaa" but forgets -Strella 1 &10 -2K12 -9k33 and the fact that krisanthema and schturms S can do spaa and ofc, an "SPAA" that can SCOUT, DRONE and has all gimmics... freakin HIGH AF russian copium devs

[@Kijby]

It's literally a BMP-3 with famous 57mm so stats are obvious(Better that ingame MBTs with speculation stat). But yeah, premium. typical gaijin.

[@ivanbarbancon8750]

@@Kijby no the gun is different and the ammos are not developped at all for it yet… and as it is still a concept/project, I clearly doubt Gaijin has access to full datas, proving once again how dope devs are… This just power creep once more the game, unbalancing other nations. The excuse « no spaa in 9.7 ussr » is really hilarious, considering Japan spaa line, and some other nations

[@Kijby]

@@ivanbarbancon8750 It can still use S-60 ammunition as far as I know.

[@ivanbarbancon8750]

@@Kijby maybe, I don’t know … In my opinion the game is dying as updates a or copy paste, or rushed, or power crept… it is sad to see

[@zeffy._440]

Cope harder Russian bias is a myth

[@user-anon]

If this is 9.7 then there’s no reason why the hstvl is 10.7

[@thatcarguydom266]

11.0 now….

[@UnknownUsername131]

@@thatcarguydom266 I got a kill in it once. If I can do that, the tank is OP and deserves the nerf!

[@FateAzzasinz]

Intro is comedically good as always

[@MarshmaloWarrior]

Fun thing about the new map in the second game is that there is a spot where you can drive underneath the garages on stilts near B. Gaijin just plain missed putting collisions on one of the pilllars next to a ramp. My friend and I found it when we were messing about on the new maps.

[@Robert-vr5uy]

I heard Gaijin doesn't make the maps. that they are outsourced to another company on commission.

[@Richard_T800]

It didnt get its programmable ammo, which is for the better ngl

[@shamrock3957]

This thing is the epitome of Russian handholding in the game. Any other nation in the game and it wouldn't have half the shit it has and would be 10.7 at the lowest.

[@reinbeers5322]

See: HSTV-L.

[@Boamere]

It's been nearly 10 years of me playing this game and this has always been the case lmao

[@davidwoolsey2135]

"dust devils" are the little swirly formations at ground level in dusty environments in the USA. "Dust bunnies" are the fluffy balls of dust one finds beneath a bed when there is no carpet beneath the bed... Thanks for the video!

[@tyrbaan7295]

This vehicle has single handedly stopped me from renewing my premium. I'm at this BR. 9.3 US. Just no. Thank you Gaijin for once again just ruining the experience of this game just so you can have more OP crap the devs play with while making a bunch of money. They've certainly lost the money they would have got from my premium time.

[@hanz2035]

I am also colorblind and have the same problem that you have with seeing enemy planes or missiles in ground RB...that's why I tend to not play as any CAS and rather play planes in Air RB.

[@Vukisha]

Give an overpowered vehicle to a major nation that no one asked for instead of one that needs it like for example france? Check✅

[@prancer8934]

They cant even give french tanks their proper traverse

[@Vukisha]

@@prancer8934 yeah well i lost hope when they reduced the leclercs reload from 5(historically accurate) to 6 for no reason

[@gamergumilyov8579]

I know this video is old but hearing you talk about Bad Company 2 reminded me of watching my Dad play BF:BC2 as a child...good times

[@captainshaq161]

Absolutely loved the intro Odd, bloody hilarious

[@Highlander_Red]

That's what happens, when the Puma and the Begleitpanzer 57 has a baby

[@MrTrool323]

This thing does extremely well in the average player's hands The only thing holding this tank is the teammates This certainly would fit in 10.x battle rating

[@frankeinfish]

So when creating this thing they basically started out with an LVKV 90 and then made it better in every single regard, *AND* they reduced its BR.... Very cool Gaijin

[@BruceLeeroy94]

My only hope is this shoots up the winrates of all the russian premiums, and gaijin finally puts the turms, bmp-2M, and this abomination, at 10.0

[@ldjalx20]

This abomination shouldn't even exist

[@spideysquestionablyusedcha5069]

BMP-2M at 10.0 will hardly be a nerf.

[@avtomat6471]

No they won't.

[@Frozander]

It is already the nation with highest winrate due to op premiums

[@dougcoombes8497]

We call them dust devils, dust bunnies is what you get under your bed

[@sharkk127]

Ok that intro, loved it, also gotta love how this things rounds spall more than the hstv

[@darthdanni8071]

And now I'm just thankful that I don't have vehicles to meet this thing.

[@simeontinkov4939]

Ngl I feel like the bmp-2m is still more busted since now it got the tracking I know I’m a Russian main so my opinion doesn’t matter but it’s insane that thing can get down tiered to 8.3 and fight up tiered leopard 1s

[@at335pro]

Wasnt this vehicle made in 2018 and not introduced tell 2020?

[@sebbe_as7333]

It's all of the 9040s combined but better and lower BR

[@cobramike13bravo63]

"Look at this, it has everything." Everytime I look in my tackle box.

[@FazekasPK]

This will go up to 10.7 in no time.

[@Clefairy4007]

What's the difference between this and the PT 76-57?

[@Grinzlow]

Could be worse, could have 4 ATGMs glued to the roof

[@bickboose9364]

Just wait for the next major patch...

[@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537]

@@bickboose9364 Fucking BMPT out of nowhere.

[@bluebox87059]

Never ceases to amaze me how blatant Gaijin is with their Double Standards and Bias. They refuse to add the most modern vehicles to every other tree in the game with the excuse of their capabilities being classified, but then comes Russia with a prototype that hasn't even completed it's trials and they add it to the game with all sorts of bells and whistles, including one of the best thermal sights in game. You're a literal clown if you still think Gaijin doesn't have any bias towards the Russian tree.

[@hansiminator69]

It’s day 161 and that’s exactly what i expected… No.3

[@ExcavationNation]

Wait what happened to your count?! It too low! You're higher than 61!

[@hansiminator69]

@@ExcavationNation oh i forgot the 1 infront 😅. It was 3am at the time writing this

[@ExcavationNation]

@@hansiminator69 fix it!

[@yankee1376]

Playing war Thunder probably gave Putin the idea he could stomp Ukraine in three days.

[@ring-of-fireRyan]

It be a crime to be this early to an OddBawz video! Keep it up!

[@chish7690]

should be at 10.7 at least, probably 11.0.

[@bresmer33]

They knew how much backlash they would get for adding that thing, at least that’s my guess for the last day introduction.

[@ResendeViana]

i actually like this new map, remembers me of one squad map

[@snazzydazzy]

It was so busted that I tripped after I saw it in my notifications.

[@PatrickLipsinic]

9.7, that's not going to last long.

[@ryguythesci-figuy81]

Yeah, it’s not. 9.3 will. And mfs say Russian bias isn’t real.

[@MrPanggs]

Should last a few months, enough for gaijin to make a shit ton of money, then they'll raise it to 10.0 because the HSTV-L is a far better tank in their eyes