The Worst RV Slideout System - from an RV repair tech

[@EBKRV412]

I would take a cable over shwintek any day of the week everyday all the time...they are very easy DIY to adjust IMO

[@docholiday7072]

This is exactly the kind if information I need, not only do you identify the problem, you state how to fix it, and even maintain it so as to prevent it. Keep them coming!

[@undercoverrvtech]

Thanks! My goal is that each video has something actionable. I want to help people stay out of the shop😀

[@brianbiggs3484]

Being a RV Tech myself , you are 100 % correct !!! Great information for people to study & look at when purchasing an RV 👍👍🇨🇦✌️🇨🇦✌️🔧🔧

[@undercoverrvtech]

Thanks!

[@papabapyro8169]

I have a lippar (don’t if that’s spelled correctly) but I say a little prayer every time I hit the button. I also researched how to manually close in case it fails while camping and have the tools to do it. Cheers

[@firemanjay1472]

If your gearbox fails, the extra emergency tool won’t work. But several people helping push it in will get it stowed. Look underneath at the rubber cushions that hold up the roller arm that the whole slide rolls in and out on. As long as the rubber cushions hold the arm up so only the roller on the tip touches the rollout bottom, you are good. HOWEVER- if the arm sits flat, and the weight is not carried by the roller, that’s the root of the whole issue! Factory has been known to install too small cushions, they come in different sizes. Get the largest size, they aren’t hard to install yourself with a few hand tools!

[@EVoltage00]

I would take my cable slides back in an instant over the crappy schwintek slide. We had 4 cable slides on our 2021 lemon. I had 2 cables break (replaced myself) in the first 4 months. Then a learned that the brackets were improperly positioned so I repositioned 10 of the 16 brackets and never had a problem. Checked the tension every few weeks and they worked great. Have 1 schwintek on our 2023 lemon and it's trash. 1 motor popped loose and tore itself apart after 7 months. Replaced it and then the entire slide started jamming. Fought with Keystone and got the entire slide mechanism replaced and it worked for a total of 3 months before it started jamming again. Cables are cheap and easy to fix, they just require a bit of maintenance. Schwinteks are extremely complex and very costly to repair.

[@richshaffer985]

My Keystone Passport has the BAL system and it did leak oil on my slide out roof. The bubble was simple to cut out and repair with a metal patch which should prevent any further problems. I also keep the cables adjusted properly to avoid any binding problems.

[@chucknSC]

I have 2015 camper with two huge cable slides and one small cable slide. As soon as I tell you I’ve had no problems in the years of using it, something will go wrong. I do keep an eye on cable alignment. Many owners of these models actually carry a spare slide motor/gearbox, which will usually prevent them from ever failing, because you have a spare!

[@undercoverrvtech]

🤣 Spare parts as preventative maintenance....I'll have to add that! Lol.

[@jameshoben2950]

Thank you for educating rver's and future rver's!

[@k-mparker]

I can’t understand why in the Sam Hell they don’t vinyl coat the wire rope/cables like the weight machines in gyms!! Some of these weight machines move hundreds of pounds 100 times plus a day and don’t fail. They have a robust vinyl coating on the cables with a robust pulley system as well. Also, a bit bigger cable would help tremendously as well.

[@doug2078]

Ive been doing search on buying my first RV. One thing I have learned is . I definitely don't want any slide outs. Just my Opinion . Great Video .

[@davesrvchannel4717]

Avoid slide outs and side mounted A/C units

[@WildGiraffe243]

I totally agree with your points on the cable slides. I had one trailer that had this type of system and was constantly in the shop as the wires would break at the connection point. After being in the shop three times we sold it and replaced the trailer. this all occurred within the first year of ownership.

[@undercoverrvtech]

That sounds like they were being over tightened. The fittings are crimped onto the cable ends and can only withstand so much tension. Sorry to hear how troublesome it was but glad you got a different camper.

[@burlfannin3795]

very informative. odd that to receive your checklist one must jump through so many hoops. and forcing us to sign up, though a common practice, does not command respect. I appreciate your sharing of information and knowledge. You do not need to resort to tactics for sign up information. I feel your clientele would be happy to share with you without trickery.

[@HighCountryRambler]

I had a Kit travel trailer with a manual crank-out slide. The nylon gears stripped out so every time I made a right turn in my mirror I watch my slide start sliding out on the highway. Couple times had to make additional sharp left to put it back- LOL. Finally fixed it and traded it in on a toy hauler.

[@undercoverrvtech]

😬 Yeah that is not fun...

[@cpcoark]

Yes. My RV has this system. Yes, I have purchased some spare parts for it. No, I never thought about the gear box having a oil leak. Big thanks for that. I will keep my eye out for it. Since the BAL system is common, why not put together a video on inspecting it and doing proper adjustments to it?

[@undercoverrvtech]

Thanks for the feedback! I may do that as I have to repair broken cables for a client soon. I understand that while many people who are still shopping can avoid buying the system, it is so common that many people are kinda stuck with it. I'll see if I can work on that this spring.

[@mycharmedunicorn8715]

@@undercoverrvtechplease do that video.

[@PanigaleJohn]

I have had the oil leak problem myself. Bal sells a drip pan that I just bought and will be swapping out motor and gearbox once parts arrive. Hoping that will resolve things for a while.

[@corypitt1387]

I have this system on my 5th wheel camper where can you buy a different slide out kit ?

[@joelhumburg5987]

My 5th wheel has this system and the main problems have been with the gear box wearing out. I've replaced 3 and doing the 4th next week before it stops working. I was lucky that a mobile repair tech was able to fix and replace the others in the same day without too many issues. Planning on replacing them about every two or three years.

[@davesrvchannel4717]

I had an owner of an RV dealership tell me what he will avoid. He said any RV with a side mounted A/C unit is begging for water penetration from A/C unit as well as incoming rain. In his words he “refuses to buy or sell one, because he can’t warranty them.” He had sold a unit new, customer bought extended warranty. The dealership had to buy camper from customer 3-4 years later due to it would cost too much to repair it.

[@undercoverrvtech]

A side mounted rooftop AC seems like a bad idea. I've not personally worked on one but I can see how it would end up leaking.

[@mikewadams1]

I am almost ready to buy. I am amazed that there are a lot of these out there. I have removed several fifth wheels off my list that I seriously thinking about purchasing because of it.

[@JamesDeLucia]

nah don't let that discourage you. All slide mechanisms have issues.

[@biff9926]

Interesting. In nearly two decades of RV repair, I've rarely had to deal with the issues you listed. The most common catastrophic issue I've dealt with in an Accuslide is the gear box failing, and even that has been relatively rare. I've performed far more repairs on, and dealt with far more frustrated customers in relation to, Lippert's Schwintek system. It is by far the least reliable slide out system on market, and it's not even close.

[@manfredstrappen7491]

Right? If it were really that bad then it wouldn’t be so common. It can’t be the easiest to install compared to the others so I don’t think it’s cheaper overall. By the time the horrible things mentioned happen, you failed to notice some easy to spot preventative maintenance, like cable slack for one.

[@M.Campbell]

Good to know that it's relatively rare for a gearbox to fail. I just replaced the gearbox on mine. It took a bit of time and effort but there are good videos from the manufacturer so I got through it and got the tension set as well.

[@brianbelliveau5551]

Boy I have a keystone passport 2700RL a 2023 with that slide system but I see that system is in a lot of trailers I was looking at grand design but couldn’t find one oh well I’ll keep a eye on it thanks for the video

[@undercoverrvtech]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

[@VOOODOOO37]

I full time in one that has them, since I never close the slide outs, I should be good to go for a long time. My second weekender trailer has them, and they work fine but ill use your tips on the weekend.

[@joelmullins8965]

YES! My trailer has one of these, an absolute nightmare! In 3 years I have replaced 2 cables and had to fix both pulley mounts. The prior owner didn't do any maintenance on it, wish I had seen this video before I bought it!

[@sassas5492]

Would it possible to swap the Accu Slide system and replace it with the Exact Slide system?

[@chuckpotter1209]

We are considering the new Vroom track mechanism to replace Schwintek. I have read on owner blogs and a couple KZbin videos how great and heavy duty they are. Expensive but beefy and problem-free.

[@undercoverrvtech]

I am optimistic about Vroom. It would seem from what I can see of the design to eliminate most problems that Schwintek has. I'm also optimistic about the new BAL EXACT Slide system which eliminates all my complaints about their Accu Slide system. If you get a Vroom let me know how it goes for you!

[@PatsAdventuresTravels]

Would love a video on the atc toy haulers.

[@bryanmontgomery4050]

I have cable slides, never again!! I’m constantly adjusting them!!

[@jakeolsen2764]

My R/V has these BAL units on 4 of the 5 slides and they do cause a lot of problems and although fairly simple concept and not complicated to adjust but mine are a PAIN in the ???. They are on the bottom of the slide and not on top. Its a nightmare to get in to adjust them. Other than that i love my R/V and cannot afford to trade up. Good informative videos. Thank you.

[@undercoverrvtech]

Yes, bottom motor are a pain, but I've worked on top adjust systems also that are really hard to access because the ceiling is so low.

[@firemanjay1472]

I have this system, and repaired the previous issues from the previous owner. It’s good and reliable now, with no more issues. I think you are overhyping the issue a bit. You are trying to sell maintenance as part of your business, but say this Accu Slide is a lousy system. Yet none of the issues you stated are the fault of the system, they are a result of LACK OF MAINTENANCE! Customers need to learn it is far less costly to maintain an RV/Vehicle/truck than it is to repair the breakdown after it occurs. Proven time and time again in Automotive industry studies! Good message in your video though, it’s just a tiny bit unclear- that’s my 2 cents!

[@jeffreytull5767]

I have never owned this system (first RV was schwintek and currently rack and pinion) but I always wondered about reliability. I would love to see more information on how to find studs and run wiring. There are videos on youtube for how people have done it, but they all seem very specific to their RV. For me, I need to come up from the underbelly, through the wall, and out the back (I want to run a camera wire to connect a backup camera to my truck's camera system) which I know is likely multiple videos. Subscribed. =)

[@gravityslave6277]

Slide outs are the one deal breaker feature when I was hunting for a camper. I have heard nothing but problems about them. Leaking and getting stuck being the biggest issues. Wont do it.

[@GoatZilla]

Video starts at 0:37

[@RebeccaBarrett-xu3mq]

Questions: Things we can do to avoid water problems in the RV beyond just the pipes you talked about? How to avoid emergencies on the side of the road (such as this)

[@undercoverrvtech]

Check out my short videos for more tips. If you have a Suburban tank type water heater, be sure to check and change the anode rod. (See short vid) Keppra slide seals in good shape, reseal the roof and siding annually to keep water leaks at bay. Clean off tops of slides before retracting to prevent damage from tree branched to seals and roof. Winterize properly, use pressure regulator. Yeesh, I feel like I should make a whole video on ways to avoid water damage. 🤣

[@rossbagley9015]

Slide systems are, in general, a source of pain and frustration. I have always thought "more slides means more failures". Our current RV has a single full-length slide with a slimrack system that is so far, drama free. Fingers remain crossed.

[@undercoverrvtech]

How long have you have it and how often do you operate the slide?

[@michaeldunn6690]

Yuppers. I had a 2018 Premiere that ripped the pulley bracket right off the wall on the livingroom slide. The dealer "fixed" it and when I went to pick it up I decided to check it before leaving... the bracket on the other side was now hanging off! Thankfully a tree fell on it and wiped it out before the warranty was up! Ohh and yeah all 3 slide motors were leaking.

[@michellemybelle9591]

We're wanting an RV but are so paranoid about getting the wrong one. But I KNOW I don't want slides at all. Just another thing to have to repair.

[@PatrickTeune]

This Video is SO HELPFUL - What happens if the cable bracket tears out of the slide out? Is there ANY hope at all of drilling new holes & re-attaching that bracket is would it total the camper?

[@undercoverrvtech]

I've done a repair like that. It did not look pretty but it worked. If the frame in the wall bends you also have to use shims to remount the pullies to keep the straight. It is a big mess.

[@PatrickTeune]

Thank you SO much for these videos - they are game-changes. I saw the one that differentiates between the BAL accuslide and the BAL Exact slide - that was what actually gave me confidence to go and buy an RV & not get hosed! I'd LOVE to see a video that explains the differences between the two systems and why the BAL Exact Slide solved the problems the cabling system presented. :) @@undercoverrvtech

[@undercoverrvtech]

Thanks for the feedback! That may be good content for a short video.@@PatrickTeune

[@diggerharison7234]

1 year old video, I hope to get a response. My 2012 Montana high country has 3 of these systems and the bottoms of the slides are seeming to have rubbing damage, is this a cable adjustment issue? Almost as if the slide is too low in the main RV wall? If that makes sense. Thanks for any input.

[@pineychristian]

Jacob what do you think of thr BAL Exact slide system ? Its still cable operate. The motors and adjustment is on side of the slide on inside of camper.

[@jimmiewalter3349]

What is the very best slide out system? At this point in time are RV does not have slides. I have seen slides with rack and pinion, hydraulic, electric gear drive with two motors and cable. Some slides just slide on a plastic rail others have rollers and so on

[@andycommonsincanada]

We had an Alliance Valor with that System and nothing but problems. After a month at the factory for repairs to the slides and still not fixed we traded it in for one without cables.

[@undercoverrvtech]

Sorry to hear that. Be sure to tell Alliance that, they seem to be listening to their customers and making changes. Also, check out my video about BAL Accu-Slide V BAL EXACT Slide I just uploaded.

[@anitaevans2088]

Can you replace the cable with a schwinn tech

[@Hazwaste63]

Was considering an Alliance 29RL. Read the other day that all Alliances have BAL slides. Would it be your advice then to avoid Alliance?

[@johnnywalker5635]

I'm dealing with an issue right now. Bought in May and now fi ally having an opportunity to camp with the RV in September. The 12'8" wide slide out will move out 2 inches and then an incredibly loud and violent pop under tension. Then a cable is loose and will move out another 2 inches and get super tight and loud pop under tension. I am 6ft6in and can see the motor, sprocket, bike chain, and cables and can't see where this loud pop is occurring. It's horrible to witness and experience. The opposite side, that alide has a large roof bubble from motor oil. I have a 2018 Keystone Cougaer 32RLI

[@rickstills6716]

Unfortunately our 2017 Keystone Montana 305RL that has the cable slides. I carry 2 sets of cables and a new motor and gearbox plus all of the tools (cable cutters and crimper) to make a repair. I have watched every possible KZbin video on how to fix this POS if it breaks. But you're correct. I'd never buy another one with cables or any Keystone Montana for that matter.

[@undercoverrvtech]

I just added video about the new BAL EXACT slide system you should check out if you end up shopping for a new camper. I've not worked on one yet, but it seems to have solved every complaint I have with the Acc-Slide system.

[@rickstills6716]

@@undercoverrvtech I doubt if we'll ever buy another rv. The entire industry sucks right now along with customer service. I'll go back to tent camping first.

[@hillcountrylivin]

Very helpful, I'm taking notes!

[@undercoverrvtech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@cherylmontgomery9875]

Hi, I signed up for your daily e-mails. I was reading about slides. You commented that even though the RV is stationery and the slides are not going in and out for several years, they could still total the RV. How is that possible if you're not moving the slides? The RV 5th wheel I'm looking at is going to be inspected. I'm not 100% sure the slides are BAL Accu-slide but they probably are. It's a 2013 Forest River 5th wheel. Thank you!

[@cheryl814]

Do you have any information on the airstream base camp? Pros and cons thank you.

[@undercoverrvtech]

I've never worked on one! But if anyone wants to bring one to Omaha I will inspect if for free and make a video with my opinion 😉

[@ronkey4796]

I'm a mechanic, I love today's rv and car crap, they make me a lot of money!!!! I have a '70s car and '80 Rv.

[@ghost307]

#4 - Buy a spare cable and a few other parts to carry with you just in case the RV repair tech you call doesn't have the necessary parts in stock. That way you won't have to lose vacation days while waiting for parts to arrive,

[@manfredstrappen7491]

But it’s sooooooo common how could a tech not have the parts? 😉

[@Robnord1]

@@manfredstrappen7491 Because it's such a garbage system, many techs won't touch it with a ten foot pole, much less stock parts for it. 27 yr master tech here. I will get the slide in for travel, but refuse to attempt repair and adjust. Those repairs are best done at a dealership.

[@Ceemysix]

I just traded a 2016 Keystone Fuzion TH that had all three slides with this style of slide mechanism. Knock on wood, they never gave me an issue and the cab;es were still tight when traded. My new Montana has the bedroom slides with this same setup. I’ll knock on wood.

[@undercoverrvtech]

Be sure to check the roof for bubbles caused by a leaking gearbox. Some don't leak, but I've seen that a lot do.

[@JohnJones-op8uf]

One of the biggest reasons I will never buy another Keyston Cougar...

[@billcoleman7316]

You said what not to buy but you did not mention which type of slide out that should be purchased.

[@undercoverrvtech]

Through-frame slides, hydraulic or electric, have the least issues in my experience. For the above-frame systems, of which this BAL Accu Slide is one, I've had to work on Slim Rack from Lippert the least, Schwintek has a lot of issues in recent years from both manufacturing problems and installation problems, but does not tear up the RV the way Accu-Slide can. The above-frame systems I'm most excited about right now are new to the market so I don't have any experience with them and time will tell how reliable they are. Those two are BAL EXACT Slide, and Vroom slide systems.

[@gerrymatheson4020]

So which type is the best system? Most reliable, easiest to maintain, cheapest to replace parts...etc

[@major_west]

I had an Accuslide cable snap from it rubbing against the slideout frame. What a nightmare! Took me 20+ hours to fish the broken cable out of the almost inaccessible space behind the wall, one strand at a time using a dental pick. I'll never purchase another RV with an Accuslide.

[@Surfmonkey-Gear]

I have a 2021 keystone montana high country 281ck and it has a cable system. How do I tell if t hi is is the bal system or a different system...is there a place to look up what was put in it. We have not had any issues as of yet but I am concerned for the future. If it is a Bal system...what can you have it replaced with and who would do that replacement...thanks

[@PanigaleJohn]

I have a BAL Accuslide and am having problems. How much would it cost to replace it with the ExactSlide system

[@lianerogers2665]

I would like your thoughts on the Thor Outlaw 29J? I am considering buying one in the next year I hope. Please

[@Jumpnroger]

Honestly anything related to Thor run from. They are bottom of the line for quality and service.

[@lancefrancis342]

What camper would YOU buy?

[@undercoverrvtech]

Lol, you gotta give me a budget on that question. If money was no object, I would get a Newell. If money was no option......something cheap and cool that I would remodel 😄

[@dgale1023]

Do all rv's list they have this system and how do I know ehich have it? Thank you

[@7443-tn]

There's one that's worse. The BAL Norco Exact Slide. Cables and chains and motors in the wall beside the slide.

[@WinthropDSmith]

What is the App name for an iPhone?

[@madmike2624]

What brands used or use those systems? I've owned three rv's and they all had the worm drive units.

[@undercoverrvtech]

I've seen BAL Accu slide systems on just about all brands unfortunately. It is an above-floor system, whereas the worm drive you are referring to is just for through-frame systems. There are lots of campers, usually travel trailers, that only have one slide and it is a through-frame type. But other campers have a mix of through frame and above floor type systems, (usually 5th wheel) and those may include Accu Slide. Sometimes it is just a motorhome bedroom slide, sometimes it is both slides on a travel trailer. I'm glad to hear you have avoided it so far :-)

[@MJBoni-zq9ep]

Slide systems do not seem to be something RV manufactureres place in their spec sheets. So one does not have to physically go to RV lots to check which mechanism they are using, can you supply which 5th Wheels RV brands should be avoided because they use BAL Accu Slide Systems?

[@stevenfoster5737]

So is there a better cabke slide?

[@jrt0127]

How do you know if the cable slide is a BAL Accue slide

[@bcrawford9072]

What is your thoughts on life time roof. I'm talking about the kind you take to someone and they spray it on your roof like a bed liner.

[@undercoverrvtech]

Great question! I actually don't reccomend that or the RV Armor roll on roof system. The product itself is great, but I can't work on replacing skylights, vent caps, etc without tearing off that spray/roll on system. It is better in my opinion to regularly have the caulking resealed to avoid leaks.

[@UserName_no1]

Yeah, I got a question. Why would you inform people of these systems if avoiding them would ultimately lead to less need for your services, and increase competition in your [service] industry?

[@undercoverrvtech]

Trust me, there are so few RV technicians who can really troubleshoot complicated problems I will never be out of work. 😀

[@UserName_no1]

@@undercoverrvtech And the market for RVs in the future is only likey to increase huh?

[@PhilStambaugh]

How do you replace the slide roller guides that guide the lower sides. I have a voltage 4205 where a screw busted the roller off. BAL part number 854599

[@infantry237]

@howtonotbreakyourrv Montana the most popular 5th wheel for years has switched to the BAL ACCU SLIDE. I am considering getting one the dealer says they can install a drip tray to prevent the oil damage. Am I stupid for considering one?

[@horizon42q]

Good information

[@undercoverrvtech]

Thanks!

[@deantweedy733]

I am getting a 44v14. Anything I should be considered about?

[@angrysarcasm2229]

So, if someone were to want to live in an RV full time, are there any older RVs that were really well made?

[@garrygriffitt]

Yes. We have a 1998 Spinnaker and have taken good care of it. We are seniors and do not linger when it comes to taking care of our cars, home, etc. Just have to relize that things do wear out and preventative maintenance is needed.

[@dougrodriquez1568]

It appears that Jayco went to the cable slide system in their 2024 models ( at least they did in the Jay Feather 21mml model I am considering buying). Why would Jayco go to this cable system if they are so problematic? I just watched Norco Industries Bal Accu-Slide (cable) system videos. The design is similar to the garage door system that uses cables, pulley's, chains and electric motors. At least they provide the functionality of their product to understand its operation, adjustment to the system, replacement and/or repairs that may be needed. Do you not recommend I go ahead and purchase the 2024 Jayco Jay Feather 21mml model because the unit has the cable system.

[@michaelwas8549]

what are your thoughts on a 2003 Coach house platinum 270 xl with 60000 mi. with one slide? are they any better than the rest of the junk out there? TY!

[@undercoverrvtech]

Never worked on one, but in general I like RVs with a molded fiberglass body. This will not delaminate like a lot or RV's, it is structural and overall will last longer. 60,000 miles is good, you should get good life out of that still. One thing I would watch for is that on class C, B+ RV's if they did not upgrade the rear sway bar and shocks it may not handle well, or might wear out the shocks quickly. The factory suspension of the van is not designed for as large of a loan as that 270xl. I've done a lot of swaybar and shock upgrades on Mercedes Sprinter RVs for this reason.

[@stevestafford2802]

Hi Jacob, What units do you think where best all around in the 2004 to 2008 range for diesel pushers and remaining under $80000 in todays market? I would like to avoid the DEF system. Thanks

[@undercoverrvtech]

Because the chassis for motorhomes are not made in the RV industry, the quality and reliability of the drivetrain is similar. Overall when buying a used vehicle, milage is the best indicator of condition. The higher the milage, the more issues there tend to be. I look for the lowest mileage I can find. Also you want something that was not lived in full time, was serviced according to the chassis manufacturer specified intervals, and garage kept. Low generator hours are also a plus. Outdoor storage is harsh on RV's, and if there are leaks the damage is much worse than if it was stored under cover. I wish I could say a particular manufacturer as an answer, but I've found that the factors above are more important for shopping than name brand.

[@DempsterDave]

Easy, no slides on my rig at all. Many hundreds if not thousands of miles on Yukon and NWT roads, and nothing to fail.

[@xjarhead1964]

How or where does one become a certified RV tech, and what credentials should we ask for, is there a school that one goes to?

[@undercoverrvtech]

Certification is like the bar exam for attorneys, if you pass the test you get a certification. There are schools you can go to that teach what you need to pass the test, but honestly that still does not give you all the information and skills need to work comprehensively on rvs. You are best off finding a job where you can work under someone experienced who can mentor you as you study, get certified, and continue learning.

[@0004612]

Question: Is the Chevy 6.0 gas engine too small for a 2008 class C Winnebago 31 foot? Thanks in advance!

[@undercoverrvtech]

It is probably fine for the camper. If you are wanting to tow a car behind through the mountains, it will struggle more than a larger displacement engine with a tow package.

[@frankieperez5961]

Also it keeps thumping every couple of seconds till it's all the way open,but no noise when closing

[@firemanjay1472]

Your gearbox might be getting ready to fail, gears are slipping. The only reason it might do that is it too hard to open, causing too much gearbox strain. You need to check the rubber cushions underneath, that they are holding the roller support brackets up properly. If the slide out is riding on the roller without touching the arm you are good. If the factory put in too small cushions, the roller arm sags, the box slides on the arm rather than the roller. This causes way too much friction, straining the gearbox and cables.

[@livingindetroitmetro-shawn9895]

What about the Norco cable slide system? Is that Bad?

[@undercoverrvtech]

Norco is BAL. They own and make the BAL Accu-Slide system as well as the EXACT Slide system. EXACT Slide seems to have solved all of my complaints with the Accu-Slide, but unfortunately many new campers are still installing the Accu-Slide. Keep an eye out for my upcoming review videos where I will show more of how to tell the difference.

[@lilmsgs]

I'm considering a Class C motorhome. Are there any slideouts that are fraught with potential issues and problems? Or... is it just a bad idea to get a slideout in the first place?

[@undercoverrvtech]

Other than BAL Accu-Slide.....Schwintek is problematic. I don't mind working on them but they break a lot. My big complaint about Class C rvs is the cab overhang portion is often a headache because of water leaks. Class B+ eliminates this issue while giving the same floor space. I'm going to make a video about this soon.

[@lilmsgs]

@@undercoverrvtech Thanks a bunch for taking the time. Now I'll push my luck and hope you reply to this: I'm actually considering a B+. Can you comment on Thor B+ quality (Gemini) and Leisure Travel Wonder... Thor has something called 3TRAX on their slide outs. I'm actually considering moving into one full time and park it at an RV park to beat the very high rents in Phoenix.

[@undercoverrvtech]

3Trax appears to be a 3 rail Schwintek system. Basically there were a lot of breaks on full wall slides with the 2 track Schwintek, so Thor upgraded to a 3 track and called it something else to get away from the negative branding of Schwintek. A lot of breaks I deal with are the result of a room not resting on the roller underneath which then breaks the Schwintek bearing blocks. A 3 rack system does not guarantee it won't have problems, it really depends on how it was put together. I definitely have LTV on my list but will add you vote to review!

[@jacksonlytal3302]

Gave up on slide outs, etc.. Who do you think makes the best truck camper from a repair/maintenance stand point.?

[@undercoverrvtech]

I don't get called to work on truck campers much. I'll have to go shopping to give you a better answer 😀

[@jacksonlytal3302]

@@undercoverrvtech Thanks

[@Robnord1]

@@jacksonlytal3302 Arctic Fox. I have several customers with them. Quality is decent and well insulated.

[@richardbanks6025]

Hello, do you have any experience with Leisure Travel Vans RV Canadian built unit which seems to have good reviews and high quality. Thanks

[@undercoverrvtech]

I've never worked on one but would love to see one up close! If I do I'll make a video about my thoughts on it. In general there is a correlation between price and quality, and usually smaller rv makers pay more attention to detail and produce a much higher quality of RV. From what I can tell looking online the LTV brand is well made and people are having a good experience with them.

[@leeworsdell1410]

5 broken cables so far and they all break at the bracket outside. rubbing on the hole on the inside wall i think.

[@mannys4036]

Even better advise is NOT to buy an RV with a slide and kiss those problems good bye. RV's are very poorly built to begin with so you will always be fixing something. They are not built to withstand the force going up and down the bumpy roads. They are a hugh money pit. After doing a lot of research, I took the time to build my own with no wood structures using a cargo trailer which has a solid frame and has the strenght of a tank. I do all my own maintenance never having to call a tech and never has to deal with the inconvienence of waiting for a repair person. I have watched over 100 videos of people who are dependent of traveling way accross the country to find a repair facility and the nightmare finding someone local to repair their RV. It was enough motivation to keep me far away from factory built RV's forever!

[@manfredstrappen7491]

OP claiming it’s the worst system and other techs chiming in with never had to mess with it, unlike Shwintech. I’m not a tech but I read/watch a lot about RV’s and the S brand seems to always be the one you’re told to avoid.

[@CT9905.]

Now I know and knowing is Half the Battle!

[@edgewood2441]

Too bad you didn’t know enough Not to buy the POS in the first place!

[@CT9905.]

@@edgewood2441 This is True!

[@edgewood2441]

@@CT9905. Better luck my friend. Sorry for your trouble.

[@CT9905.]

@@edgewood2441 I have not encountered any problems with my cable slide out’s as of 5 Sep 24!

[@Metalrogue]

I'm confused, shouldn't the title be " the worst RV slide to own "? I missed it, if you mentioned RV brands.

[@chrisneuhaus7188]

Any brand and every brand that uses the cable slide mechanism. The list is very long.

[@robertzollars5561]

He gave the cable slide system a 10 out of 10, but in all his other videos he states that you should run from cable slides.

[@travelcookeat7028]

There are two cable slide systems. The newer Accu-Track is the one he gives 10/10 for. Watch his videos for help on distinguishing between the two.

[@bryanmontgomery4050]

Hydraulic slides with gear drive!! Schwintech is a total other story!!

[@j37j2]

How do you tell if it's a balaccuslide?

[@undercoverrvtech]

If it has cables on the side of the slide, and there in not a stick on the outside saying Exact-Slide, it is probably Accu-Slide. Keep an eye out for my upcoming review videos where I will show how to identify both of them.

[@j37j2]

@@undercoverrvtech thank you

[@betterwithrum]

checkmate, we bought our first RV and specifically decided we didn't want an RV with a slide. Also, the link to your checklist on your website isn't working. I can't get to the checklist

[@undercoverrvtech]

Thanks for letting me know. What browser are you using? Someone else today said it worked in Edge but not Chrome.

[@betterwithrum]

@@undercoverrvtech Chrome, I'll try Edge and let you know

[@briandavis8585]

This is why my next RV will have ZERO slides

[@josephsandall1789]

I think the Schwintek are worse than BAL

[@johnshuler1396]

You said you were interested in people who bought RVs to submit what they purchased. I bought a Sur Ron toy hauler by Travel Lite. It's all aluminum and has room for my Yamaha Wolverine Rmax4. Like you, I realize the whole industry is on the take. I wanted one that was big enough to haul my ATV, but small enough that I didn't have to buy dual wheeled diesel to pull it! Let me know what you think of it!

[@undercoverrvtech]

Added to my list! Let me know how it treats you. Thanks for watching!

[@johnshuler1396]

@howtonotbreakyourrv I will, the season is quickly coming to an end.

[@kevinaldridge4878]

Wow .. those are worse than the Schwintech 😂

[@garyoffill562]

All slide outs are problematic.

[@Sascha-o7q]

😂

[@davidleadford6511]

Glad my RV don't have slide outs.

[@undercoverrvtech]

Hard to find but that does reduce maintenance headaches!

[@mannys4036]

@@undercoverrvtech there not hard to find at all.

[@JG-ti7id]

Great content. Tytyty

[@TheKablue]

Another reason we do not want slide outs

[@Mr.Bezzy88]

Grey wolf travel trailer 23dbh