The WW2 Game That Scammed Its Fans

[@TheAngrySaxon1]

There's just too many multiplayer games these days. Too many games and not enough players to go around.

[@Chtigga]

Having high quality WW2 singleplayer games is so needed.

[@thencrranger5628]

@@Chtigga Remember Enemy Front?

[@matstick199]

There is a game called easy red 2, people speak very fondly of it​@@Chtigga

[@Cozza69]

@@ChtiggaPostscriptum/ Squad 44

[@Chtigga]

@@Cozza69 When I say Single Player, I mean with a real Campaign mod just like in Call of Duty, with great music, scripted missions, etc... Do these games have that?

[@Eyeling]

8:26 rocket launcher, sniper, and Machine Gunner originate from Day of Defeat. The way maps were designed in DOD facilitated players with MGs and Snipers setting up in buildings to hold control points. Meanwhile The Rocket class existed as a counter to these defensive classes, because he can fire his rocket from a long range into a building where a sniper or MG is deployed. However in Days of War they didn't design the maps correctly, which makes them useless, unlike in Day of Defeat where they were essential for a team to win.

[@me67galaxylife]

virgin random ww2 shooter vs chad day of defeat : source

[@Mossballhunter]

the original day of defeat is more fun and has more weapons and less sweaty players, i highly recommend you try it out.

[@Eyeling]

@@Mossballhunter Both Day of Defeats are awesome, but I think I prefer the original Goldsrc game a little more.

[@masteraep305]

​@@Mossballhunter but no funny ragdoll tho

[@buckshot5096]

Lad COD: WAW

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

they all suck. hell let loose is better

[@OverVolts83]

I remember this game, when first released it played just like a Medal of Honor allied assault. Then they removed aim down sights turned into a cs or dod, spray n gun twitch shooter then died before they tried putting it back to what worked and too little to late

[@linkfreeman1998]

My guy, Allied Assault never had ADS unless you mod it to have one.

[@iVETAnsolini]

Bro I remember this game! I was so pumped, I was a HUGE Day of Defeat, and Day of Defeat source fan! I played DoDs more than cod 4, more than CS, more than Battlefield! This game died so fast though

[@iVETAnsolini]

Didn’t the devs get valves blessing to make it? Is this the game? Swore read something somewhere that said that.

[@rynemendoza3633]

DoD for ever man o7

[@feraligatorade99]

@@iVETAnsolini the Day of Infamy devs got Valve's "blessing" to make DoI

[@Masher8559]

They had two maps from day of defeat source, rocket class, icons same colour kill feed, clearly tried to make a day of defeat game but failed.

[@oluswiater2641]

This is literally Day of Defeat

[@thencrranger5628]

2:15 "Who's Idea was this?" Day of Defeat

[@king-wzrdd]

I think the biggest issue for this game was that SO MANY people missed that it was meant to be a spiritual successor to Day of Defeat - people wanted it to be a CS/COD revival, but it was always meant to play to the DoD crowd. I enjoyed it as that - a new take on DOD, but it never did it better than Valve's originals

[@silvialuzmia]

Bots need to be standard in FPS- not just dum AI bots but a kinda smart bots, I hate playing witj people :/

[@SolidAK-15]

You should do a video on "Raid: WW2". The game made a comeback with the new update. Oh yeah, it's on sale right now (assuming you haven't bought the game). Get the game and DLCs for just the price of 10 buckaroos (or just 3, if you only wanna buy the base game).

[@Foxrich99]

Still lame af

[@mastercheif878]

@@Foxrich99very lame and is only hot right now as a meme because of the dumpster fire that is payday 3 💀

[@R0nn0c9]

1:15 this is shot for shot the opening scene to saving private Ryan 😂

[@jonnydodger9780]

Back in the day I was somewhat active in the Day of Infamy community, both on Discord and on the Steam forums. At that time, three WW2 shooters released/were revealed around the same time, DoI (from NWI, the guys who made Insurgency), Battalion 44, and Days of War. In the end DoI came out on top (and eventually died off itself sadly). The thing about DoI was that NWI had recieved Valve's blessing to make a 'spiritual sequel' to Day of Defeat. While the gameplay did diverge, playing more like Insurgency, Valve's blessing resulted in DoI having at least one map being a copy of one of DODs (Avalanche IIRC). This may have been the reason why DoW got pulled from Steam for having Donner. I remember when DoW removed ADS. A lot of people felt that it had killed any chance DoW had of competing with DoI and other WW2 shooters. I always remember one guy, who was the leader of a unit (clan) in DoD or some other game. He had been a huge supporter of DoW, feeling that the gameplay that was advertised was exactly what he wanted, and had purchased loads of copies for his unit members, and the devs made him DoW's community mod on the Steam forums. He would defend DoW throughout those first few months, telling the playerbase to be patient. Then came the day ADS was removed. The guy stopped defending the devs, and turned against them lol, because the game was no longer what he wanted or supported. He was fired from being a community mod, and was denied refunds for all the copies he bought for the unit. He was scammed more than anyone. Don't know what happened after that. I heard the unit disbanded. He should have chosen Day of Infamy instead.

[@904_Florida]

That’s AWFUL. Common decency would lead one take his criticism to a higher regard instead of kicking him to the curb like that.

[@TheNucaKola]

Man I miss Day of Infamy! The mod support was crazy for it too! It was the right balance of tactical realism and arcade style fun.

[@Mossballhunter]

i do like this video but i see some problems Day of Defeat Source will be referred to as "DOD:S" The rocket launcher class exists here because it exists in DOD:S The Bipod Machinegun recoil being too much to handle when the bipod is not deployed is like that in this game because its like that in DOD:S (adding onto this, you in the video are just using the mg42 wrong, it only works when you deploy its bipod and that's intended to balance out its power factor when deployed) The Sprint being very fast but also running out fast is like that because that's the way it is in DOD:S The ADS being removed was to make the game more like DOD:S because apart from scoped/rifle weapons there is no ADS in DOD:S I appreciate that you mention day of defeat source but i think you missed the mark claiming it was trying to be like CS:GO because DOD:S plays a much bigger role in the decisions made by the devs thank i think you realize, i'd guess that you've never played DOD:S or that you haven't got much experience with it, that's an assumption so call me out if i'm wrong. and also, there aren't any official competitive modes for DOD:S, which is likely why this game doesn't have any, because it was never meant to be a CS style 1 life competitive shooter. This game was not trying to compete with CS:GO, it was just trying to a DOD:S clone. I have no malice for this video or am i typing this with hate, this is a genuine critique so you may improve the research you put into your videos, as i really enjoyed watching this video despite my complaints, and i'm not defending this piece of sh*t game either, the devs clearly just ran with the money. I won't be liking nor disliking the video but i'll defo subscribe and stay tuned for future content as this video shows your talent as an entertainment personality on youtube.

[@thevillager8339]

There should be a ip flipping industry where they buy up titles with potential at rock bottom

[@dakotameredith625]

I know it's not a World War.2 shooter, but do you guys remember the game MAG? It said the same thing like hundred player or more battles That was a long time ago

[@rautamiekka]

Yet 'Day Of Defeat' games had the rocket and MG ... Also, at least for MG34, the recoil is kinda realistic, which is why they held the bipod as a foregrip IRL. The MG hipfire recoil is way higher in 'Day Of Defeat: Source', too.

[@efficiencygaming3494]

I remember actually being hyped for this game when they first revealed it around early 2016. This was during the futuristic COD era when WWII shooter nostalgia was at its peak. When this and Battalion 1944 (another contemporary early access WWII indie shooter) both flopped hard, that turned out to be a lesson in why you shouldn't expect too much from these kinds of projects...

[@iTomBass]

It looks like a much worse Battalion1944 and even that game flopped.

[@SneakersDK]

Days Of Defeat. It had insane recoil. It's so small changes the game needs to be a success. If it doesn't fall flat on its face because it's a remake of a old game that are to simple to, what we are used to today.

[@megamaggotmrh9085]

Ahh Days of War... My fastest refund ever. I played almost a full match before heading to the refund. Battalion 1944 was also a huge scam. It was advertised on kickstarter as "the glory days of FPS." They compared it to Medal of Honor and Call of Duty. They even mentioned Battlefield at one point on their socials. They said there wouldn't be weapon skins, instead a system where you engrave your gun with personal flair. Fast forward, game is funded, hit multiple goals (including launching on console), and it's all lies. It's a Counter Strike clone. The maps are all half baked. There's crates and a weapon skin market. It's only Search and Destroy with Deathmatch added later. Devs did a cut and run after a few updates and a Halloween event that was only weapon skins in loot boxes. Years later, suprise update where they relaunch as free 2 play with even more game breaking bugs. Devs disappear. They then start testing a new game. It's the same game, just modern. Same maps, just reskinned. Same gameplay. Same animations. They get called out, and then go radio silent again. Kickstarter backers who opted for a console launch game key were offered a Steam key shortly before it went free 2 play.

[@rynemendoza3633]

OG DoD remains as the only competitive WWII shooter. I used to compete in CAL back in 2006-2008

[@TheCastingCousinsHD]

I've been having fun in Enlisted. The grind is fairly strong if you're not willing to spend money. I don't feel like it takes away from the experience. I however have spent ten dollars to excel faster and I feel as though $10 with 100 hours on the books already has been good value.

[@petorian343]

Enlisted also just got an update yesterday which majorly reduces the XP cost of unlocking new items and reduced the silver cost of buying them, some items are now 5 times cheaper!

[@gilangthehuman7713]

I gave up playing enlisted before it came to steam. The grind is atrocious and not fun at all

[@herrflammen6487]

Heroes and Generals was so peak and Re-Moto completely stomped it out

[@DJ88Masterchief]

Launched with 800 players…. That’s more than Concord 😂

[@IS0LAT0R7]

2:40 watch kill feed, devs called a bot Saint_Frerotte and as a french guy I died when I saw that, roughly translated its = to Saint_Brotherina...

[@TheUncunningFox]

Devs: Play another game!! Players : 👍

[@Jdsofar]

LOL that clip at 6:53 of the MG42 Recoil Is beyond ridiculous. Literally like it's a joke. Unplayable. What were they honestly thinking?

[@srani5885]

It needs to be deployed with bipod to be useable by proning or finding a mid height platform. Just like day of defeat where the game took inspiration from. However, some people might have become good enough to be able to reliably kill by hipfiring.

[@matteoclementi]

I did the Kickstarter, then I literally watched it dying in my hands, it was so painful. Omaha was a good map when server were full.

[@Bobbymaccys]

“Days Of War” is the most generic WW2 title I’ve ever heard

[@222TripleJ]

So essentially the Day Of Defeat knock off died? Well I didn't saw that coming

[@featherperhaps]

I bought it and it died very quickly and i later found out Day of infamy but it was almost dead as well sad that i didnt buy Day of infamy instead of Days of war.But it was decent while it lasted but at least you can play against AI now :/

[@tedarcher9120]

Go play Squad44, it's amazing

[@Zal-TheBug]

I had a stroke reading this.

[@featherperhaps]

@@Zal-TheBug well that was the plan. To kill people reading this

[@NashmanNash]

@@Zal-TheBug Gojira sends his condolences and wishes for a fast recovery

[@Totallapje]

I was so hyped for this. The next Day of Defeat: Source in my eyes. But i played it for an hour and went back to dods

[@Frogstomp27]

People collectively opened this game and said: "Excuse me?"

[@PhoenixT70]

8:51 A meaningful single-player campaign? That would be nice.

[@antguy3195]

6:56 looks like they were trying to copy the recoil on the MGs from DOD:S

[@Travis_Scorsese]

i thought this was about hell let loose, it wouldn't be too far off anyways 🤣

[@impairedtrout6917]

This game *kinda* reminds me of Day of Defeat, but without it's soul and thing that made it a good game. It feels like a Roblox shooter that's expensive and with fancy graphics lol.

[@Max-oo8yo]

I bought this and played it in early access way back. And then I went back in 2020 with the full release and noticed that the game basically didn't change at all lol. Probably only hopped on twice after the full release because there just wasn't much there.

[@Shjankee]

The love for DoD is amazing ❤

[@mr.bruh6935]

I miss heroes and generals 💔💔💔💔

[@kielbasathief9576]

I remember days of war. I was hyped. But another big one was heroes and generals

[@bad74maverick1]

And to this day, I still play DOD, both of them. And it seems like a lot of others here do to LOL.

[@georgeszweden9497]

Day of infamy walked so hell let loose could run

[@King_CreepaLot]

I was browsing through my Steam Library and found a game called 'End of War 1945' which I completely forgot about. Has some solo mode bots, but last I played it they'd all just bunch up lol. The devs are still working on it after checking up on the Steam forums interestingly!

[@srani5885]

I can't seem to find recent gameplay video of it. What is it like? How many factions and maps?

[@King_CreepaLot]

@@srani5885 The bots weren't the greatest, I noticed a lot of minor bugs and issues but it's just one of those games you can quickly load up and play a bot match or two if you're really bored. I suppose the fact they're still working on it is cool, I think they said something about working on Hungarians.

[@srani5885]

@@King_CreepaLot ah ok. Thanks

[@Why_does_this_exist_YouTube]

This looks like one of those games that would be impressive for Roblox, and underwhelming for everything else

[@lambdaspecialist_source]

anyone who played and still remembers Heroes & Generals?

[@nick250ification]

This game hyped me , I wasnt able to run the game at the time , I still bought the game, Just finished my Pc build , 7 years later my PC build was finally done (economic bs issues here in canada is thanks to that) and now im finding out game is dead because the devs scammed everyone

[@jasonscarborough94]

2:35 That actually doesn't look too unbalanced to me, the burst radius looks pretty small, the rockets might be moving a little too fast and the reload time definitely looks like it should be doubled or tripled.

[@marcjansson1039]

More and more games comes, but still Day of Infamy is the best one. If they only released some new maps and a faction or two I would be totally back on the grind

[@michaelkoerner4578]

It's the spiritual successor to day of defeat. I remember backing this Kickstart and being disappointed because the performance was shit.

[@lebitelexie9350]

Hey! At least the MG42's kickback is somewhat realistic! That machinegun was soo punchy that german MG teams were instructed to fire in very small bursts otherwise even if bipodded and all that jazz the gun couldn't hit the broad side of a barn! Its sad that there are soo many WW2 shooters going down the drain lately.

[@DJPUPPETMASTER-RESURRECTED-]

This game looks like some Early Access UE4 garbage scam

[@argplutoniumman]

It basically tried to copy DOD but just didn’t really feel right

[@mashattack551]

Like the overall textures and aesthetic, also player models look quite good. Just seems like an updated DoD source, which I would probably play casually on occasion... ultimately seems rather uninspired...

[@uncivilized_caveman]

as a stringent preservationist, the fact this game is shit, abandoned, and digital only is specifically the reason it SHOULD NOT be taken on steam. It's a piece of (albeit bad) gaming history

[@samrobson8602]

The pre release version was better than the 1.0 release!

[@robertsartino7664]

Bring back the single player days!

[@HistoryMonarch1999]

Maybe people should stop making multiplayer only ww2 shooters we have plenty. If they do maybe they should do other fronts: India vs Japanese, Italians, Romanians vs soviets. Hell even Norway or Poland

[@linkfreeman1998]

This is what happens when there's too much internet to those people... Its all the cancerous idea that u need other people to have fun.

[@russellbrill3721]

I heard you mentioned hhell let loose It's basically unplayable now.Oh the hacks on it

[@nickrails]

It's not 'unplayable' at all, that's hyperbole. I have about 800 hours and have never had a game affected by hacks. The only thing I've noticed is spies on the team, communicating your garrisons to players on the other team via Discord

[@ThatGuyyApollo]

I love how tone deaf and brain dead developers are. Time and time again it always blows my mind when people are complaining about genuine shitty features added to the game or good features removed. They only know how to respond with something like “play something else.” Or “skill issue.” Like not even from a PR standpoint but from a business standpoint, do these guys use any bit of thinking at all? “Guys don’t support us, we don’t want you if you don’t like how we ruin our own game. Go play something else.” Imagine you go to any business IRL and weren’t satisfied with how something was being sold and they just told you, oh well go somewhere else…that’s just crazy to me…😵‍💫

[@deinoguy856]

Check out Easy Red 2,Single and Multiplayer FPS Full Inventory, Squad Controls, 8+ HUGE CAMPAIGNS WITH OVER 100+ Missions! 8+ different factions, 100+ different weapons and vehicles, MOD support, etc etc

[@drproctologist]

the first ever teaser or whatever it were, was picked up by one of those UK normie facebook pages (lad bible or uni-lad or whatever) and they pretty much blew smoke up its arse and got all the normies excited.

[@RonnieRawdawg]

apparently i own this game and i remember a lil bit playing it, was like battalion 1944 a massive disappointment. EDIT: apparently im thinking of day of infamy

[@Hushey]

very suprised to see this isnt heroes and generals. what shit developers, fuck those guys they screwed us all.

[@dongyenk]

DAY OF DEFEAT CLONE LOOKING THING. Day of Defeat Source is alive and well with a lovely mature playerbase. Worth full price even get it soon please:) Edit: The game in this video is totally cloning on Day of Defeat Source

[@NoYouAreNotDreaming]

ok...just to make it clear...mod for battlefield 1942 and battlefield 2 called forgotten hope from 2007...its ww2 mod and its multiplayer and it had 100player battles even in 2010...so this hell let loose and post scriptum are nothing new...forgotten hope and project reality-completly free mods...are granddads to this new games like squad and hell let loose

[@heartboyxo2496]

If there was a CSGO verion of WW1 or WW2 my God... I dont lnow if I would play anything else for YEARS 😂😂

[@Eyeling]

Trying to rip off Day of Defeat while also adding 100 players in one match makes zero sense.

[@chriz-is-cool-4gis85t]

if you want a good ww2 game thats just like this and better deatals and stuf play enlisted

[@TheTugalazix]

Did basicly had the vision to make a new DOD, but couldnt reconcile that day of defeat today is a very niche shooter, and the industry of fps and their audiences have moved on. Days of war have this absurd movement or arcade shooters from the early 2000 and 90' with gimmicks from modern shooters like ADS its a confused chimera.

[@obviouspseudonym9345]

Okay so it's LITERALLY just a poorly made copy of Day Of Defeat: Source.

[@Isylon]

Did you ever try Fog of War? Another dead WW2 shooter!

[@C0SSAC]

Literally DOD:Source remastered??

[@junkandjalopies3375]

Remindes me of heroes and generals.... What a waste.

[@TheNucaKola]

I remember playing it and backing the project, it sucked

[@TheLostGamerMan]

It's funny how you say snipers and rocket launchers are useless on small maps because COD is the same fucking way. Tiny maps

[@ThePlecoPal]

Theres a WW2 csgo game???

[@bongo6_462]

Im sure you can make a game on 20000 My brother did it with nothing and made over 10000 im sure

[@jonlannister345]

Lots of shooter games are bad. Like Day of Defeat or Counter Strike Source but with updated graphics. Still that 2004 ADHD twitchclick gameplay.

[@Eonymia]

Looks like a Day of Defeat clone.

[@kaakabe]

well about devs destroys their own game just look at helldivers 2.

[@spaceageGecko]

Helldivers 2 is still doing fine.

[@kaakabe]

@@spaceageGecko sure 90% loss of playerbase.another review bombing and not defending super earth ...yeah

[@spaceageGecko]

@@kaakabe It was never going to hold it's peak numbers, it was a viral trend. The review bombing is an over reaction as is the not defending. Arrowhead know there are issues and have made it clear they intend to change their balance philosophy. To say the game is "destroyed" when it has a collective playerbase of over 100K still is insane.

[@itorca]

Dino d-day 2 please

[@itorca]

Dino-nam

[@itorca]

Dino-rea war😂

[@itorca]

Dino-raq

[@itorca]

The battles in Dino-Stan

[@itorca]

Dino-jima

[@Herr_Gamer]

Get on Squad 44

[@zeppelin5000]

This game looks like it was absolute shit... by the way, Squad 44 is where it's at now.

[@DJPUPPETMASTER-RESURRECTED-]

Modern WW2 games are garbage

[@bkb087]

Yo

[@acaivanovic4997]

First

[@lucanicola3171]

Damn it 😂

[@lucanicola3171]

First viewer

[@Mechanized85]

haha, yeah, just like enlisted, I ain't give a damn either.

[@boogie5]

it's an homage to Day of Defeat... An Day Of Infamy is a better one! 😉🪖 Day of Infamy is an amazing game! That feel of the Source engine is hard to beat.