I feel like nobody has properly explained WHY you want to Q -> Q -> R (and then maybe flash) instead of Q -> R -> Q. The Q actually travels up to its maximum range from where you currently are, so as long as it's still flying you can continue to extend the range. If you Q -> wait a second -> Q again while walking towards the target, you can continue walking while the Q is in flight, then R just before the Q reaches its max range to extend it further. Thus Q -> R -> Q has a shorter maximum range, AND the projectile will reach the target more slowly/with more time to react because it's still so far away when you start your R.
@HalikBun9 ай бұрын
Tbh, I thought the whole idea with Q-Q-R was to hide it more than anything. Like, by the time you appear visible to the enemy through the R portal, Q is a split second away from actually landing, so there's very little time to dodge.
@9hjuicy9 ай бұрын
I mean yeah but u think Grubby is gonna read all that :) hes not too serious abt the game yet so ppl r just telling him basic stuff, rather than info dumping him how things work
@AcencialAMV9 ай бұрын
Just for further clarification - You should activate R as Q is flying right next to Zoe (so that with the R delay it doesn't travel out of range). Also it gives the enemy a lot less time to react because if you Q-Q in fog and then R the enemy has to guess where Q will pop up because it comes at the same time as Zoe
@yyhn71689 ай бұрын
Q-Q-R is just giga bread and butter imo. You can even Q-Q-R-E into another Q-Q
@baronnashor1589 ай бұрын
chat usually is good explaining champs and combo and giving direction, but i feel with zoe chat was fucking clueless
@Nr47479 ай бұрын
You farmed (and overall played) really well on Zoe, but when you have an easy lane match-up against a lategame hypercarry like Kassadin, that is sadly not enough. You also need to keep that hypercarry down as much as possible by going aggressively for trades, chunking them out, zoning them off of CS as much as possible etc.
@raphaels339 ай бұрын
dude This was one of the worst zoe game play ever, there Is no need to lie. I dont think playing everychampion on the game will help him to improve as much as focusing on 3 or 4.
@cap-ml7ky9 ай бұрын
@@raphaels33nah, he said he wanted to just have fun and get to know the game for now, and not be all too tryhard.
@dawidowczarek54829 ай бұрын
it might help him to know and understand how most champs work tho, so i think thats a good way to start playing the game@@raphaels33
@Nr47479 ай бұрын
@@raphaels33 I disagree. I thought this was great for one of his first games on that champion while still being very new to the game. He kept very good farm going for most of the laning phase, that is more than can be said for most league players (we all like to pretend we're diamond+, but most players don't even play ranked).
@Hoobyj9 ай бұрын
@@raphaels33Playing every champ once is definitely superior to going straight to focusing on a couple, if your goal is to get gud. Otherwise he will only have a vague idea of what capabilities and in game goals/powerspikes the champs he is playing against have. But yeah. I don't think his goal is to get challenger or that one of the most dominant rts world champs in history needs advice on how to climb xD
@garagavia9 ай бұрын
I love this series, it's both entertaining, informative and instructive. I feel like I've gotten to know Grubby a lot more from watching him learn and explore League of Legends than previously when just enjoying the Warcraft 3 content. I hope he continues to play league regularly 😍
@greenin55379 ай бұрын
Grubby, to see the range of your spells with quick cast enabled, just check the box that says "enable quick cast with range indicator". You can hold the key and will see the range, and just release to cast, or right click to cancel.
@omri93259 ай бұрын
I think shift also applies it
@Krasnal4289 ай бұрын
Nah this option is giga troll but its preference ig
@AspectPL9 ай бұрын
I always use this option, it's the best of both worlds - fast but allows for precise aiming.
@twplustwoisthree9 ай бұрын
quick cast everything , only way to play
@Play_time79 ай бұрын
He has said he does not like that option
@TheJerbol9 ай бұрын
I know it's a bit late now, but it's better to press the second part of your Q before you R in, it's much more surprising than having it appear a second after, and is faster for chasing enemies that are running away. Fun video as always!
@FollowGrubby9 ай бұрын
I didn’t realize until the end that Q travels to the max of my new position. I thought it only goes so far as when I click the second Q from that location :x
@Raxiums9 ай бұрын
Finally! I've been looking forward to a series like this in League. This will be fun to follow your journey
@Ebbikkk9 ай бұрын
I'm so hyped for this challenge haha
@ELYESSS9 ай бұрын
For anyone who wants to play Zoe, don't go tp it doesn't synergize well with your w, any other spell is better. With ignite you can go w lvl2, walk up to them, ignite them, auto them, q auto q auto, flash after them, bonus if they use any spell pick it up and use it and it's a guaranteed kill and lane won. You just have to wait for your three orbs to proc before using the next spell.
@marvinpanvan9 ай бұрын
^ plat zoe otp
@tudornaconecinii36099 ай бұрын
I mean, it's true that Zoe as a champion gives up/sacrifices more than any other midlaner when she takes teleport, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's always *wrong* to take teleport. Also, do keep in mind that Grubby is playing quickplay, not draft, which means that he never knows what matchup he will play against, so *even if* it's true that zoe should always take a combat spell over teleport, he can't actually pick the right combat spell for the matchup. And if you're in a lane where you want cleanse, for example, you would prefer to have teleport over ignite.
@ELYESSS9 ай бұрын
no am adc main, just play her for fun@@marvinpanvan
@ELYESSS9 ай бұрын
@@tudornaconecinii3609 I would still randomly pick ignite or exhaust over tp tbh. even if you look at stats, ignite will probably be picked 90% of the time. So if blind picking, just go ignite.
@tudornaconecinii36099 ай бұрын
@@ELYESSS If ignite is correct 90% of the time, then yeah, randoming ignite is probably best. But if, say, ignite is correct only 70% of the time, and exhaust/barrier/cleanse/ghost is correct 30% of the time, and the 30% of the time that you wouldn't want ignite, you'd rather have tp, then it's still better to random ignite to maximize your winrate, but it's better to random tp to minimize nongames, which does matter for a person who uploads most of his games to youtube. The stats show that the best summoners are ignite, ghost, and cleanse, and everything else sucks. Which is not necessarily surprising. But still, my point was that this strategy is quickplay specific, so ranked stats don't capture the same drafting environment.
@cubandarknez9 ай бұрын
because in league mages don't naturally get stronger auto attacks like they do in dota (int gives stronger autos even in the case of mage characters) you should just use a spell to secure cannon.
@FollowGrubby9 ай бұрын
Dota taught me not to trust spells on catapults and banner creeps because of 80% MR, it’s confusing me catapults in LoL can “just” be nuked with a spell haha. Thanks for the reminder
@MFGeedorah479 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say "should" because then you have no spell to harass or trade back if the opponent engages. If it's sidelane or you know no enemy is nearby it's fine otherwise but better to get comfortable using autos
@Ragnarons9 ай бұрын
Zoe is kind of an exception, as she does get an empowered auto when using a spell. You can also use that
@broke_en_halo9 ай бұрын
I gotta say, to see grubby buy archangels like that was something out of a nightmare 😂
@Mendamar-uv4jg9 ай бұрын
Not reading the most important comments. Your q2 extends range where you are. So it is always better to use q1 then aim and cast q2 then use r or flash. It is harder to react and less time to dodge for the enemies.
@jvint339 ай бұрын
I am really enjoying your Z to A videos for LoL. I was wondering if perhaps you could make a youtube playlist for your Z to A journey so it is easier to find that specific video series
@ShadowDuskSky9 ай бұрын
Zoe is one of my favorite champs. The way you can use vision, timing, and fake outs to get the better of your opponent as a burst or poke mage makes her playstyle totally unique.
@Azihayya9 ай бұрын
What a tremendous Champ. I can see this being a Grubby main. Lots of depth, lots of fun. Zoe demonstrates a strong contrast to DotA's game design, so I think characters like this will be naturally attractive to players who like League for its deep character expression.
@mitchellscanga7479 ай бұрын
This was a neat suprise. Zoe is one of my favorite champions and trust me a good Zoe can absolutely terrify the enemy team. There are a lot of small things in her kit that good Zoe can use to thrive and get in their face without putting yourself at too much risk. Or you can time a perfect bubble snipe over the wall and one shot with your q when you hop over. There is a lot to think about when you are trying to set up your q, but if you enjoy the champ enough the combos become pretty fluid. Try setting up your q and firing it off before you jump to get a shot that will be harder to dodge because it comes faster. Love watching you play man. Hope you play some more Zoe. Ill probably hop onto your stream vods to watch the other Zoe games. Good luck and have fun man.
@adas07469 ай бұрын
Grubby don't turn off quick cast manually, you can turn on indicators for the quick cast (it's just below in the controls tab). Now you have the superior quick cast and see ability range and stuff if you hold it.
@toss70559 ай бұрын
he doesnt like cast on release
@PepperoniPapaya9 ай бұрын
he knows the option exists, he doens't like it since it adds a delay compared to quick cast
@adas07469 ай бұрын
What?... Just lift finger faster? I play on it and don't see any issues. Alright thanks for info.
@trevorzahn739 ай бұрын
@@adas0746 Yeah but there is always going to be some delay, it makes a difference. The reaaal way is to have normal cast bound to shift modifiers so if you want an indicator you have it that way.
@cubandarknez9 ай бұрын
come backs are actually very common in league in any rank below master or so. Shutdowns and objective bounties are a huge comeback swing, and below masters rank and even beyond it you can just play safe and farm and wait for an enemy to make a mistake. I would say top lane is the one lane where you can really just doom your game in 4 waves, since it is generally a 1v1 even later into the game when toplane is supposed to hold sidelane. You do need to have some tools available to be able to set yourself up for a comeback. If your comp has no wave clear champs, then yeah, you kind of put yourselves into a pickle by having no options in case you fall behind. But if you have 1 or 2 wave clear champs, you can really stall out a game.
@bjfflegend9 ай бұрын
Just a tip: It's fun to figure out ways to maximize the distance for your Paddle Star (Q). You've figured out some so far. If you want to be aggressive, you can add flash into it too. If you land your E before hand, you can one shot squishy champs from the midgame onwards.
@stewartgames66979 ай бұрын
Zoe is canonically the most powerful (and terrifying) character in League lore. She's like if Q from Star Trek were a child, or if Azathoth of the Cthulhu Mythos had a five year old daughter. Every time she hits that "ball" with her paddle, somewhere in the multiverse a star goes supernova. When she plays with her "yoyo", it rains for forty days and forty nights on some hapless rock of a planet. With every note of her simple lullaby, entire species rise to supremacy or wither away to extinction. And to her, it is all just a simple children's game.
@frosty_15149 ай бұрын
The journey has started
@TNight009 ай бұрын
Nice, this challenge is going to be funny fun XD
@dwayne82739 ай бұрын
I love the kazoo mop song on the background
@mrszmatan27279 ай бұрын
Oh yess. He will finally make video on Yorick soon. Wanted to see how he plays him
@FrancoQR9 ай бұрын
Let's go! The really good thing is that it will be coming to Twisted Fate soon.
@randomstuffs84959 ай бұрын
Finally you play the champ on my profile :D
@Azh_Tiel9 ай бұрын
Zoe deals alot of damage, the hard part is landing them. as a Zoe main, I would like to see you play her more, I wish I was here when you were live.
@kalorathekau9 ай бұрын
I wish chat had given a little more straightforward gameplay tip for Grubby this game. Could have said more things at the start like: "Harass Kassadin from a distance, and don't let him teleport on top of you"
@zainshaikh5279 ай бұрын
What's the song name when the practice ends and the game begins?
@Azihayya9 ай бұрын
Bro, you can't so close to making some great plays! Next one is a win, for sure.
@lexiette83439 ай бұрын
Can you make Z-A into a seperate playlist?
@mrcarry31799 ай бұрын
Where does "Everybody's laughing, everbody's happy" come from?
@TheKillerAngel9 ай бұрын
DotA 2, it's a line when Hoodwink buys the Solar Crest item.
@mrcarry31799 ай бұрын
@@TheKillerAngel Thank you!
@zuzu73089 ай бұрын
can't wait for you to get to the T, S, and L
@BaronVonScrub9 ай бұрын
Zoe is so frustrating for me to play as, and against. It will be nice to get her out of the way quickly, IMO. :P
@Pendscale9 ай бұрын
My main Akshan soon enough 😊
@AgonizingDemise9 ай бұрын
Zoe! I'm a bard main but Zoe is my mid main (used to be a-sol before the remake)
@ragenaros44759 ай бұрын
Ayyy good ideaa
@dustyacer9 ай бұрын
yo lets go. next epsiode is zilean. I'm a Zilean mid main so ill watch in horror as you mess him up.
@bestboy8979 ай бұрын
oh hell yeah zed is gonna be soon lets fucking go hes so fun but really hard i think you will like him
@oat49769 ай бұрын
Zoe is really hard to play. You did a good job on first try!
@jaesaces9 ай бұрын
It begins!
@conanruisi9 ай бұрын
YESSSS Z BEFORE A That means you’ll get to my champ sooner, zyra. I haven’t actually asked you to play her yet, I’ve been suggesting stuff that seems like it might be your playstyle based on what you said you liked But this works for me!
@bloodne9 ай бұрын
He already played zyra
@conanruisi9 ай бұрын
@@bloodne so what
@ArcTV.9 ай бұрын
@@conanruisi What do you mean so what? That means he wont be playing her in this Z to A challenge since Zyra would be before Zoe and would be the first champ in the challenge, and he skipped her. The zyra video is already on the channel.
@conanruisi9 ай бұрын
@@ArcTV. that’s lame
@ChairZomg9 ай бұрын
Z-A challenge will be awesome
@reezeyraola45959 ай бұрын
Yessir. ZILEAN IS NEXT!! My favorite champ
@guywithmanyname52479 ай бұрын
Yeah zoeis hard for a first timer to many combos to remember
@theadmiral41579 ай бұрын
The only thing you need to do is use first and ult combo
@guywithmanyname52479 ай бұрын
@@theadmiral4157 no you also need to learn what active items dose
@s0ltinsert7829 ай бұрын
The Zoe Incident
@oilslicknl9 ай бұрын
28:30 thats indeed the sound you make when landing a zoe combo😂
@sauracifer35579 ай бұрын
i like Q R Q it feels like i hit more often like that since i adjust after the enemies react to me dashing into their face
@kirktown20469 ай бұрын
Wow, you're better with Zoe Q in one match than I learned in like 5. You might consider playing more Zoe, you seem to be a natural!
@bestboy8979 ай бұрын
hes starting from z to get yas and yone outta the way :p
@ArcTV.9 ай бұрын
He's skipping champions he already played e.g. he skipped zyra already
@riggedtroxaa86759 ай бұрын
As an aatrox main and lore enjoyer i hate everything about this But was fun keep it up! Its especially fun to see you go against backseat gamers and champ suggestions
@BitBam9 ай бұрын
i didnt know that about zoe E. gj
@dillonharnden-shea579 ай бұрын
So pumped to see you commit to more league content! The North American League ( LCS) starts on the 20th and is the first league ever to be played on live patch, will be fun to check out, other leagues still playing old patch, old map.
@swenburgos9 ай бұрын
Grubby, I'm a national level athlete and an Emerald rank at the same time. SO it's possible to be good at both.
@zunkat43029 ай бұрын
What about with "Zyra" ??
@ELYESSS9 ай бұрын
He played her.
@yuliia-san56097 ай бұрын
yoooooo. Hi! Currently at the beginning of the video. And ye she is very hard at PC for me personally and most people, so it will be interesting to watch how you're learning. She is 5000 y.o) Love her, one of most favourite heroes of mine in Wild rift (Lol mobile). Very fun, you may try
@arkivuo52849 ай бұрын
Omg i had no idea her E could go that far
@OrlannyLanny9 ай бұрын
it is complicated to win a game with a first time champion and when enemy has played with that champ many times or even otps
@PamellaCardoso-pp5tr9 ай бұрын
Grubby a nice tip. If something in league goes through half of the terrain, it will extend its range to outside the terrain. Stuff like zoe R, syndra Q,W and E can be extended by casting it nside a wall 😊
@PepperoniPapaya9 ай бұрын
he knows, also it's not true for Zoe E, Zoe E will go through the terrain regardless of whether it has gone through half of the terrain or not
@OnePieceSS239 ай бұрын
The reason there's less come backs in league is because the losing team is commiting mistakes and are not noticing it and they get to depressed to play well, if the losing teams stays positive and tries to play safe them many games will have comebacks Most times comebacks revolves around finding what your team is making wrong and trying to avoid it, if you're losing TFs stop forcing them, if 2 persons never help on dragon/baron ask the to help. On this games you guys were ignoring drags, grubbys, etc. and dying a lot on 1v1/2v2 but you've made some good plays as a team So forcing TFs near objectives and avoiding 2v2 could've been good overall. On high elo comebacks can happens in a single TF, because of bounties even a losing tf (4 dead your team, 3 dead on theirs) can give your team 3x more gold than what the enemy team will get. Not dying overall and staying positive is the best way to have a chance at comebacks. Plus, quickplay makes easier to surrender (only needs 3 yes, instead of the usual 4), so its harder to have a comeback there.
@FrogVoid19 ай бұрын
so hyped for ziggs
@JZhaoRen9 ай бұрын
Whoever suggested him to do Z-A instead of normal is just evil
@dragonflame49909 ай бұрын
"no comeback mechanic" coming from the guy that plays dota
@gilgagimmickkingofheroes64169 ай бұрын
Wait, isn't Zyra the last champion alphabetically?
@nguyenhuuhiep15059 ай бұрын
he has already played zyra, u can check it on this channel
@PaulAnsarov9 ай бұрын
Yay, Can't wait for Yorick Coming from StarCraft 2 , it's familiar with microing the ghouls and Maiden
@Populous3Tutorials9 ай бұрын
me, an aatrox main:
@tronieb45209 ай бұрын
He voted yes 🥶🥶🥶
@credaaaooo8249 ай бұрын
at first i saw the title and though "at least he isn't going to have to pick up Aphelios right at the beggining" but then i open the video and the 4th champ is Zeri which is arguably just as bad for a newcomer to pick up. also Xayah comes soon after which, again, is arguably one of the most mechanical Marksmen champs other than maybe Ezreal
@oilslicknl9 ай бұрын
Its hard to watch this as a kassadin main😢. Not a bad first zoe at all though
@nerdicusdorkum29239 ай бұрын
Ya... Zoe is most certainly not a pick up and play champion. At the very least, you had a kassadin during the early game, giving you some much needed practice time.
@H4veS0meH3art9 ай бұрын
Zoe needs a buff!
@alwaysjarron62609 ай бұрын
not really
@zuzu73089 ай бұрын
asjsdjsa i should use r to come back to lane faster, except
@pendetv72569 ай бұрын
finally my main
@dannyforshaw82819 ай бұрын
zoe takes practice
@ArcaneWeapon9 ай бұрын
You say that you don't see a way for comebacks, but then you continue to throw yourself into enemy heroes when you're under 50%, they're at 100% life and 2 levels over you. Feeding them is NOT the way to come back, playing safe and farming is.
@grenvallion9 ай бұрын
I'd be completely fine if every champ was deleted except Zoe. The reason you do not see her a lot is because she's quite difficult to do well with. If someone is bad with her, she becomes completely useless.
@just_a_yokai11039 ай бұрын
now play them all in the jungle lol
@kushsmokah13379 ай бұрын
I love the vids
@ELYESSS9 ай бұрын
For some reason I read that as kids XD
@Skelly30009 ай бұрын
my eyes
@sirDeI9 ай бұрын
Finaly all champ challenge
@petar.m5479 ай бұрын
❤
@nadirallal21249 ай бұрын
Day 6... oh there is no point in me asking Melon to try Gangplank anymore.sooner or later he is gonna pick up the powder pirate. gl hf
@hanshansen38429 ай бұрын
Favourite E-Sport sigma male , Favorite game , love the grubbleroni meloni ❤
@Glonag9 ай бұрын
My main ❤
@guywithmanyname52479 ай бұрын
Oh no 😂
@griefer18519 ай бұрын
Play behind walls, need to fish more E
@tomafosa70179 ай бұрын
Zyra had to be the first champ :
@MoonstoneGames7 ай бұрын
Omg you've played LoL ? Oh wow...
@TheFlakyBiscuit9 ай бұрын
I've been enjoying your LoL content quite a bit but I don't think I'll tune into this series. I'm sure you'll improve doing this but not nearly as quickly as focusing on a small champ pool and role. I'd much rather watch a series of you learning macro and mastering a champ rather than playing a new one every game. Good luck!
@ArcTV.9 ай бұрын
He plays dota 2, league macro is far simpler than dota 2 macro. He also did an A to Z series for dota 2. Plus I've got the feeling he's playing league more for fun than more serious like dota 2.
@totoro6669 ай бұрын
Very random comment xD
@dragocrafterr82869 ай бұрын
Yoooo
@OsnofAhcor9 ай бұрын
but, please play viego last
@bestboy8979 ай бұрын
zoe is a pretty cancer character tbh very annoying especially because of rng of random actives and summoner spells but i have to admit she has a very unique kit and high skill ceiling.
@NatronFatumallafalla9 ай бұрын
Ex Dee?
@Eduan_the_King9 ай бұрын
What about Zac 😢
@horizon58739 ай бұрын
ref
@lethal32689 ай бұрын
gruby got to find a match before i even get to play dota 2 que takes so long dead game
@federicopavon57779 ай бұрын
Hehejeje pls play my champ grubby xd im low elo bot
@zerglin9 ай бұрын
first
@elvisnygren26139 ай бұрын
please lower your music ingame
@DaxRaider9 ай бұрын
not being mean but this might have been ur weakest play in league so far :) nearly all ur deaths was by greed or simply walking in turret range for no reason also you not understood the kit and up to the end used it in teh wrong order xD chat was trying to tell you but you sadly never read the comments who cried out in help xD
@alwaysjarron62609 ай бұрын
i mean the champ is hard for new players. spacing and keeping distance vary important.