The Zhu Ran by AF Archery (35 lbs at 28”)

[@msrvfx]

Thanks. I’ve had my Zhu Ran for about six months, and it is an incredibly smooth drawing bow. I draw 32-33”. Love it, w/ a grip shape modification, grip rewrap w/ suede leather, and Ray skin arrow passes. Also made my own string for the bow, which is better quality than the string that came on it. Robin Hooded two Vermil Nocks, and switched back to Gold Point GT Nocks. Ordered mine w/ Black and White exterior. Mine is a 30# @ 28”, and I typically shoot 33” 500 spine carbon shaft arrows w/ 125grain EZ Pull tips. 408 grain arrows. Shoot very well. AF Archery recommended to me to shoot 10 GPP. I also have some Ali Bow 36” carbon shaft arrows rated at 500 grain. They weight 518 grain. They shoot well, but I don’t like the 8” fletching, and will be cutting these arrows down to 33-34” length, and refletch to either Ottoman 5.8” or 5” Parabolic fletch. No sense to shoot any arrows longer than needed, as they don’t shoot as well. I shot out the center of a new target in two months.

[@agamagreen]

Excellent! Thank you for your detailed feedback! ☺️🙏🙏 I would expect, that your preferred arrow length is about 34” or 34,5” (1,5” more than your typical draw length). Yes, 500 spine should flight straight at your draw length and weight. Potentially you might try 400 spine as well, giving the chance. This may be good if you increase draw weight a little. ☺️ Wish you lots of fun and joy with the Zhu Ran! ☺️🏹🔆

[@lancetranter5695]

Great buy! That is really a very sharp looking build. Just an awesome looking bow.

[@agamagreen]

Indeed! 👍 Thank you so much, dear Lance! ☺️🙏🙏

[@sigmanarchery54]

Ok that is a beautiful looking bow for sure I also like the shape in full draw. It looks like a really nice shooting bow as well. Take care my friend God bless.

[@agamagreen]

Thank you so much, dear Sig Man! ☺️🙏🙏 Your observations are fully correct! 😁 Best wishes and take care, too! 🏹🔆

[@BLACKXARCHERY]

Oh my gosh. Absolutely gorgeous bow. Holy smokes, Great video Absolutely awesome, you do such an amazing job. Especially giving us the history and everything. Awesome video 😎

[@agamagreen]

Thank you so much, dear Mack! ☺️🙏🙏 It’s my pleasure and I’m very happy that you liked the video! 😃 Best wishes from Germany!

[@BLACKXARCHERY]

I LOVE THAT QUIVER, omg, that would be so amazing for speed and drawing arrows quickly. Holy smokes that is awesome 😎

[@agamagreen]

Thank you so much! I think that there are easier quivers out there… the stripes cause friction on the arrow while sliding out. Hence the draw is slowed down a bit. The flying quiver by Mihai Cozmei is the fastest quiver I am aware of 😊

[@Ronnietay269]

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[@miguelveratraditionalarche9374]

Wow very beautiful bow 🏹❤️ As always, I really enjoy your reviews and even more so here in my living room having a refreshing drink of coconut rum with natural pineapple juice. 🥃😊 I notice that it is still a bit cold in Germany, I could not ride a bike in shorts with a sleeveless shirt 😀 Hey nice shooting Melanie you have nice control of the bow. Enjoy the weekend and Blessings to all your family. 🙏✨️ Keep having fun Sister 👊😃

[@agamagreen]

Thank you so much, dear Bro! 😁🙏🙏 Yeah, it’s just a little cold… 🤪 At least the snow is gone, that came down last Wednesday (was snowing the hole day). Friday we have had a storm, but Saturday was lovely! I wanted to start the review earlier, but was stuck at the optician… luckily I managed to shoot the Zhu Ran just in time before sunset 😁 The bow was real fun to shoot! All the best to you and your family! Keep up the fun, too! 👊😁

[@paradox_1729]

Thank you.

[@agamagreen]

My pleasure dear Richard! ☺️🙏🙏

[@kennethhollenbeck7107]

Hello again, very nice honest review, i'm so happy to see your video, it makes me feel better while I'm still recuperating from my injuries. Doctor say's I can start Re Hab April 1st. Please keep up the great reviews. I still say your the best.. 💕👍💎🍸

[@agamagreen]

Awwww… Thank you so much, dear Kenneth! ☺️🙏🙏😊 1st of April is close! 👏👏👏😁 Almost there! Excellent! I’m glad that the healing is progressing and that there is light at the end of the tunnel! ✌️😃 Keep on going! 😃👍

[@1czechit1]

I have a long draw so when I learned of the ZhuRan I bought it. It really is a pleasure to shoot. I thought my arrows were heavy but I am pleasantly surprised that they are the right weight for the bow. My arrows are 680 grain,

[@agamagreen]

@@1czechit1 Great! The arrow weight is pending on the poundage you have on your finger ☺️ The Zhu Ran can be shot with a (Bamboo Archery table based) recommended arrow weight of 15 gpp. Your arrows are in this range, if your draw weight is 45lbs. Of course, the bow shoots nicely with less than 15 gpp, but it can happen, that the bow won’t last forever ☺️ Happy shooting! 🏹🔆

[@MrRourk]

Zhu Ran is a serious performer

[@agamagreen]

Absolutely! 👊😁

[@alexisalliel73]

I have this bow with the same color and poundage! I'm in love! I would advise you to get the upgrade string from af, and put silencers on the strings. I'm 1m92 so it's perfect for me, 32 inch in med draw and 35 thumbdraw.

[@agamagreen]

Thank you so much, dear Alexis! ☺️🙏🙏 I’ll consider this! 😁👍

[@reinholdfischer956]

Hallo, tolles Video, habe den gleichen Bogen, Preis Leistung bei AF und Ali Bow ist überragend. Gruß aus Bayern

[@agamagreen]

Vielen lieben Dank, Reinhold! ☺️🙏🙏 Ja, das finde ich auch! Liebe Grüße aus NRW!

[@agamagreen]

This is the feedback from Mike D. A. Freeman via facebook, that I am allowed to add here: “I just got mine. I love it! I have a 36" draw, and this bow is so smooth!”

[@WV591]

Gorgeous Asian recurve bow. Wish they made them in 48-52 inch

[@agamagreen]

Yes, it is! ☺️👍

[@laurentmeiller5171]

if i understand, the bows with long sihas were built for long arrows then seem easier to draw than a traditionnal recurve of the same length my wild mountain Dolomite (62"@30#) begans to be hard at 29" and with a zhu ran i would feel the same difficulty at 33" or 34" ? because of the limbs geometry ?

[@agamagreen]

Hi Laurent! Yes, I would say so… ☺️ The Zhu Ran has siyahs with a total length of 30” or 15” each siyah. That’s quite a bit! ☺️ The siyah works like a lever and improves the energy you put in the system by pulling. The longer the lever, the larger the power conversion. Trouble is, the longer the siyahs, the heavier the arrow should be to avoid damages on the bow (due to rest energy remaining in the bow, if the arrows are too light). The Zhu Ran is a relatively long asiatic bow, resulting in a longer draw. If you compare a Recurve-Take-Down bow to a recurved asiatic bow, even if the bows are of a similar length, you will note some differences, such as weight and performance. It feels different, because the bow designs are different. The siyahs have another cross section (more like a square) than the bending section of the limbs, whereas the RTD limbs are equally thick, but recurved (flat profile remains, the width changes and if it comes to the tips, the overlay starts to reinforce it). The tips of the asiatic bows are also reinforced, but the siyah section between tips and bending limb usually gets thinner and thicker. The bending starts directly at the handle section, sometimes we have a bending length of more than 38”, with the Zhu Ran only 17,5”. The lever of 15” per side helps to improve the draw length here. The RTD of 62” has probably a riser length of 25” or so. Means, your limbs have a bending length of approximately. 37” or 18,5” each. So, it’s obvious, that you can’t reach the draw length of a longer asiatic bow with large siyahs. The RTD bows are made for the mediterranean draw, which is significantly shorter than the thumb draw (I have around 64” body length, my med. draw is only 24,5”, thumb draw Turkish is 28” and max draw is 31”). If a RTD would be built for a guy with 37” med. draw, the guy would need to have around 96” body length and the bow would be longer than 70” I suppose ☺️

[@laurentmeiller5171]

@@agamagreen thank you for the informations, the dolomite is not a rtd but a monobloc recurve, but i think the asiatic bows in my mind are the 60" Sarmat Simurgh or the 62" Hou Yi from Vegh, in a 30#@30" configuration. It allows a huge control and the challenge to shoot with a ring is interesting,

[@agamagreen]

@@laurentmeiller5171 The Hou Yi seems to be a great choice with respect to Armin Hirmer’s review some time back. ☺️👍 Yes, it’s wise to start with a lower poundage to keep your thumb healthy. For me thumb release is much more vivid and feels more awesome than mediterranean draw. I’m curious about your experiences! Please share them with me, if you like! 👊😁

[@pdj2975]

Do you notice any issues with the bubinga wood, I've hurd because it's oily is can be susceptible to delination and cloudyness

[@agamagreen]

No, so far I haven’t noticed any issues…

[@pdj2975]

@agamagreen amazing and where would I get some 36 inch arrows xD I'm planning yo get one in 40 pounds

[@agamagreen]

@@pdj2975 I know, that you can buy the Mammut shaft at Nijora, but I don’t know if you can get long shafts somewhere else, since I have a relatively short draw nijora.com/mammut-schaft-39-inch/

[@larsj.falkenberg6180]

I love shooting that bow :)

[@agamagreen]

I fully understand! 😁👍 Thank you so much, dear Lars! ☺️🙏🙏

[@gabcin100]

Arching your back and slight foeward position reminds me of a heavy bow shooting stance. Do you have any experience with that?

[@agamagreen]

Thank you so much, dear Gabriel! ☺️🙏🙏 Indeed, this is the best position to avoid injuries and is reflecting the Gao Ying style more (I’m not a master in Gao Ying style). The best source for this style is Justin Ma. His videos are awesome and I highly recommend to check out hus videos if you haven’t done already 😀 Best wishes and keep up the fun! 🏹🔆

[@gabcin100]

@@agamagreen Tank you for your answer! I've seen some of the videos of Justin, yes. I have asked you because I use this stance when shooting my english warbow and observ it on your shooting style too. Actualy I agree that is a usefull stance when shooting a bow of any poundage for the reasons you already expose (to avoid injuries). Another variant of this shooting style can be seen on Joe Gibbs youtube videos if you are interested. Happy shooting !

[@agamagreen]

@@gabcin100 Thank you so much, dear Gabriel! ☺️🙏

[@naenjamal4827]

did you also made video of that Han Win Bow by Mariner?

[@agamagreen]

Hm… I have taken a short video and shared it on fb. Well spotted! Seems, I should take a full video of the Han Wind 3, too! ☺️👍 Thank you, dear Jamal! 🙏

[@nestormashine]

Ich Danke für die Antwort Du machst coole Rewiews, werd ich alle reinziehen ( die erste die ich gesehen habe war der Crab bow Vergleich). Ich kenne Armin Hirmer. Wir schreiben uns. Den Hankyu von Sarmat (Armins Rewiew) habe ich diesen Winter gekauft (entspricht meinem Budget) Find ich total cool (asymetrisch/ traditionell (ist aber auch sehr speziell)). Darauf hin war ich in einem Kyudo- Dojo (Kampfsport und nicht nur Archery ( Sehr Streng (wie die Japaner halt so sind))) zum Probetraining. Ein Yumi ist dann noch einen Nummer !! anders; völlig erhaben!! (meinen Auszugslänge beträgt 99 cm!!!). Darum wollt ich nen Eigenen. Jedoch 1000 Euro plus und dann noch 300 Euro Versand und Zoll kann ich mir halt nicht leisten, darum frage ich rum. So wie es aussieht muss ich mir wohl selber einen laminieren (so wie im Dictum Workshop mit dem Großmeister) Kepp shooting (Dein Stil ist sehr schön ( man sieht, wer es Dir beigebracht hat . . Hihihi)

[@agamagreen]

Vielen lieben Dank für deine ausführliche Antwort und das Kompliment! ☺️🙏🙏 Da hast Du Dir was vorgenommen! 🤪😁 Ja, der Hankyu ist deutlich kürzer und zieht sich bestimmt ganz anders als ein echter Yumi. Ich hatte bisher einmal den Hankyu probiert (noch nie einen Yumi). Ich mochte den Griff nicht so gerne, aber das ist mein ganz persönliches Empfinden. Ich drücke Dir die Daumen, dass Du Dir einen schönen Yumi herstellen kannst und viel Freude daran haben wirst! Liebe Grüße!

[@nestormashine]

Servus Du hast ja echt viele Bögen Kennst Du vielleicht jemanden, der einen 2,26m Yumi, gebraucht aber anständig, zu verkaufen hat; für einen Geringverdiener wie mich?? Gruß vom Paul, aus Schwerte an der Ruhr

[@agamagreen]

Hallo Hans! Nee, ich kenne niemanden mit einem Yumi Bogen. Der Import ist auch nicht ohne, daher sind Yumis hierzulande eher selten zu finden… Sorry! Etwas kürzere Varianten bis 71” findest Du bei Sarmat Archery sarmatarchery.com/shop/bamboo-hankyu-bow-71/ Viele Grüße aus NRW!

[@cacanghoihoi3005]

du siehst wie eine Psychologin 😅😅😅

[@agamagreen]

LOL! Lustig! Wie meinst Du das? Sieht eine Psychologin anders als andere? 😁

[@cacanghoihoi3005]

@@agamagreen sie hat wenig Muskel aber viele Vertrauen ,,,