Dante's Age (Devil May Cry 5) | A Line Through Time

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[@Neoxon619]

Damn, Lady aged like fine wine. Lucky her.

[@gothamneedsme3546]

In anime she says that wants to find for eternal young, guess she found it

[@buttermilk5364]

Lady is fine wine!!

[@elderrusty541]

While Trish aged like milk

[@jojyrocks]

Most of the time DMC is black and white narrative and is vague on the reason why their father suddenly decided to save humans... But the power he has at current does not make sense and Its logical to think with that kind of power...I think his demon blood has become more dominant and he may have stopped ageing at some point. I doubt he'd grow wrinkles and walk with a cane...cannot picture that.

[@dante9656]

@@jojyrocks the father likes eva essentially he found out devil's can cry

[@snark4611]

Lady must use some demon cream to keep her skin looking so young... THIS SOUNDED WAY LESS DIRTY IN MY HEAD, OKAY?!

[@shinbakihanma2749]

Any demon would love to have their cream all over Lady's face, as well as other places😏

[@abdellnunez1403]

Must be from beating off all those demons

[@dreamEnd]

She pulled dantes devil trigger

[@nono547]

+ Snark Oh! no it didn't you liar! :D

[@conorallen100]

@@abdellnunez1403 fellow best friends fan

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

Considering his powers as a half demon I don't see why Dante as a Teen couldn't have made a decent reputation as a Mercanary

[@sarika3689]

Yeah. He probably did some showy shit like get shot a bunch and showing no problems which would give anyone a reputation lol

[@TheBlackSaiyan97]

I love how people are questioning how did Vergil come back In dmc 5 If he was dead lol. Thing is Vergil as nelo Angelo never died in dmc 1. Mundus clearly stated that Vergil has been defeated. Defeat does not mean dead.

[@TheExFatal]

So? That doesn't explain shit. How did he revert back to his body? What was he up to the whole time?

[@vergilsshcum]

@@TheExFatal read b4 the nightmare dmc 5 prequal novel.

[@TheExFatal]

@@vergilsshcum I did, it still explains nothing. What happened to Nelo Angelo? Did he turn back into Vergil? How did he end up in Hell then? Dante defeated Nelo 3 in our world, not in hell. What was he even doing in between dmc1 and 5? Sure they explained the Yamato shards, but that only covers how some demons can open portals.

[@jondoe7036]

@@TheExFatal Without looking any further into the matter, Nelo Angelo's demeanor in DMC1 already indicated Vergil regained some of his memories and original personality while fighting Dante and he was more than likely cut completely loose from Mundus' control upon either Nelo Angelo's final defeat or after the Demon King had been reimprisoned at the end of the game. After that I'd assume he just spent years wondering through the demon world, until finally finding his way out into Fortuna just before the events of DMC5. It really doesn't strike me as a matter, that would reguire that thorough of an explanation, when you can more or less guess what had happened.

[@Oakcliffagent]

Nico said at the end of dmc that she heard Dante killed vergil

[@HOLEheregonenow]

"Vergil's 'death' there was retconned by 3" Might be splitting hairs here, but Vergil's death was not retconned by 3, Dante's knowledge in DMC1 of Vergil still being alive is what was retconned by 3. When you fight Nelo Angelo for the third time, it's revealed that he is Vergil, meaning he didn't die 20 years prior to DMC1. What 3 retconned was making Dante go from being unaware Vergil survived the attack (as of the release of DMC1) to him having to know he survived the attack because they've met a minimum of 2 times since said attack. Either way, great content, looking forward to the next one!

[@WednesdayMan]

yep, and the line about Mundus killing Vergil still stands due to vergil staying in the underworld where of course Mundus would absolutely want to kill vergil to get rid of him.

[@aithanleeom5152]

if Vergil dies capcom better be ready for a riot purge.

[@4289isOK]

Vergil- “I NEED MORE POWER!!!!” Dante- “Aw shit, here we go again.” Dead meme? Alright I’ll stop T_T

[@TheRibbonRed]

Aw shit, here we go again.

[@tobykassulke2385]

Dead meme? More like Deadweight...... Ok I’ll leave.

[@cinnamonpanda6040]

Devil may Cry 12 *Buff multiverse being Vergil who is constantly invisible because he moves so fast* : Moooooooar POOOOOOOOWAAAAAAAAAAAAR Dante: Really?, how many times have I to beat/kill you? Vergil:YOU CANNOT WIN, I OBTAINED THE MCGUFFIN Dante: Ooooh shiii..*wins* well that was anticlimatic Vergil: NOOOO HOW...HOW MUCH PLOT ARMOR DO YOU HAVE?!? Dante: Yes

[@floods1791]

Lmfaoo this just killed me

[@goodxd701]

Dante-"why because I have all of our father's strength".

[@klauser9779]

A video about Dante's age, puts nero in the thumbnail.

[@aithanleeom5152]

I swear the dmc fan base is on some mighty thin ice when they don't want to remember the iconic character that made their childhood Dante i still remember him I'd just like to prefer to play as him in the games where he's the protagonist in Dmc4 we play as Nero and that's perfectly fine with me since he is a well humorously portrayed cocky protagonist he's a child who learned to stop crying over spilled milk and came to the realization that Credo's death was not his fault people like Nero because he rose up from the whole fatherly bonding things that he never got to see his dad when he was a kid and he finally see's him making portals and enslaving the human race oppressed by these thoughts he moved on i myself really don't understand why there's more vergil fans than dante ones but the Nero fans obviously like to keep to themselves.

[@klauser9779]

@@aithanleeom5152I agree with your statement, but uhhh I wasn't dissing Nero or anything. Just pointing out a little inconsistency in the thumbnail and the video title. that's all.

[@spideyfan5313]

MangaMango Vergil has a katana that can cut open portals so I mean uhhhh you kinda see why

[@zevorothrappaleano58]

Itsuno: *places down the entire collection of DMC content on a desk* "Pizza Time."

[@jojo1cool]

Also there's something interesting in the dmc5 novel about half demons life spans, it's written dante is confused about his life span and when he'll be considered old because his dad lived for 2000 years. Novel is written by the main dmc writer, it leaves the impression they're planning to make dante age slower due to being half demon, I mean demons like Trish and Lucia hasn't aged one pit, half demons should be abnormal compared to humans, their aging process definitely is different. They'd live for hundreds of years, means dante currently is a baby by demons standards.

[@chipmo]

nom sword

[@disquietellie]

@@logandelaharpe6362 Dante is still half a demon, it just happens to be that half demon is A LOT more powerful than any other demon in existence, other than Vergil.

[@chikin6146]

I think they're still basing it on how Kamiya defined how Dante ages. Dante ages normally while he's in human form and stops during his Devil trigger I believe it was stated.

[@rev0568]

@@chikin6146 Think it's the same for Nero? Or perhaps it's different because hes less demonic? Also, could the sin triggers affect their aging differently? If standard trigger stops them from aging, could Sin accelerate it or they simply age at the same rate? Simply my own ponderings.

[@buttermilk5364]

I felt like it was wrong for you to call lady mary.

[@Shortjascha]

So rude

[@joseurbina3835]

As a fan of the DMC series since 2001, (I was 4 years old at the time) but my god DMC's timeline is literally At the same level of confusion as the Metal Gear timeline, I mean I know DMC is trying to make a build up For an *"Extended Universe"* and all, but damn it's no wonder you made a DMC deep video about it.

[@jondoe7036]

I fail to see how MGS is supposed to be all that confusing. Apart from 3 and 5 starting and concluding the prequel timeline respectively, rest of the numbered games progress linearily following the order of release and the only one or two official canon side-games being part of the prequel timeline between 3 and 5 (some people argue about canonity of Rising, but until I hear or see Kojima himself address it as anything other than a spinoff-title, that's what I'm labeling it as). And Devil May Cry is only somewhat confusing if you count all the extra canonical material besides the games themselves. After they retconned 2's place in timeline (which they could easily do, because in the overarching narrative DMC2 doesn't matter), apart from DMC3, rest of the video game timeline is completely linear, following both the order of release and numbers.

[@captaintre44]

It’s because dmc 2 wasn’t made by the og crew who made 1. I’m kidding I hate the timeline because it’s super confusing for no reason i feel like Capcom needs to remake all the old games In chronological order with all like the novels and anime stuff in them. So it explains things better. I mean they are already doing the RE remakes why not remake another loved franchise, it’ll make them money too because a lot of dmc fans didn’t play the old dmc games. My first game was actually the reboot but my first real dmc game was 4, so if the remake the first 3 would be cool

[@user-mu8dm4rk7g]

Nah, MGS is way more precise with numbers, dude.

[@KamenRider1]

How fortunate for me to across this the moment it gets released since I was looking for some DMC content whilst nursing a sickness at home.

[@joshuagiordano593]

i hope you feel better

[@KamenRider1]

@@joshuagiordano593 Much thanks. I'm better now. Sadly I spent the entirety of Easter Sunday and Black Saturday sick with a stomach problem. But hey, I got off work and was able to watch this lovely video. ☺

[@jjninja1089]

Devils cry huh. LETS HEAR WHAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE!👿😭😎

[@mrcocoloco7200]

Gay

[@comebacksarecool2834]

So badass

[@Brandon_Powell]

10:12 Don't take this away from me.

[@legionbeast]

Hey, some folks like to think that Dante and Virgil's mother was an Umbran Witch who formed a pact with Sparda. Regardless, I think it'd be the most hilariously amazing thing for Bayonetta to do a summon for a powerful demon and suddenly Dante pops out.

[@ihevmilkdhou]

@@legionbeast no..! Thats not canon

[@raffleslovecraftfriends8375]

Okay, let me explain the whole Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne situation and how the SMT lore kinda works. SMT works on multiverse rules where every single ending is canon in some shape or form. Just certain endings get lead up by a sequel and have a much more easier timeline. Such as the Persona timeline, being something like Shin Megami Tensei if..... then Persona 1, Persona 2 Innocent Sin, Persona 2 Eternal Punishment, Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden, Persona Q which takes place between 3 and 4 because of time travel reasons, Persona 4 Arena, and Persona 4 Arena Ultimax and Persona 4 Dancing All Night and then Persona 5. While, other stuff we have no idea... For example, Demi-Fiend from Nocturne appears in Shin Megami Tensei: IMAGINE as a boss and appears as a boss in Digital Devil Saga and is referenced in Digital Devil Saga 2 briefly and the whole reason why the Demi-Fiend could do that is just because of a concept introduced in Nocturne known as The Amala Network where basically there's millions of universes going through a cycle of death and rebirth. And you are able to travel to said alternate universes if you are powerful enough to do so and are able to do so through the right means. So while Shin Megami Tensei may not be canon to Devil May Cry. But even with that said though, just cause Raidou Kuzunoha the XIV replaced Dante in a version of Nocturne. Doesn't stop Devil May Cry from being canon to Shin Megami Tensei. I don't disagree with your timeline. I think you did an amazing job with the Devil May Cry timeline and got the canon timeline pretty much on the mark for Devil May Cry. I'm just saying it's far more complicated with the SMT timeline because of a multiverse being in place.

[@devil_must_die2445]

Yes 2 is set after the anime, and We know its in the same year as TAS as well as said in the B4TN novel, Making him 34 in 2 and the anime. However I will not complain that you've changed the age to 35 as It makes sense. Other than that the timeline is 100% correct though and I Like that you mentioned the guest appearances aren't canon, also the New SMT crossover had an inconsistency in it as well which made it non canon as well. Anyways awesome Vid on the timeline.

[@Eckskalibur]

10:34 Welp! Time to factor in alternate timelines!

[@Jose-se9pu]

I think Dante is A LOT older than they make us believe...he worked with Nico's grandmother, and Morrison, who started on the mercenary business when Dante was already working on it, is an old man. But hey, is Devil May Cry, every new work retcons the last one.

[@Brandon_Powell]

I still kind of wish they hadn't just glossed over the events of Devil May Cry 2. It makes it feel like it's still a gaping hole in the series. Maybe they'll remake it someday and do it right next time.

[@phantasosxgames8488]

@@HOTD108_ I think a remake would be good. We saw Resident Evil 2 Remake been gorgeous , so should be a DMC2 Remake.

[@sincord1]

@@phantasosxgames8488 Resident Evil 2 was a good game from the start. DMC 2 not so much.

[@phantasosxgames8488]

@@sincord1 which is exactly why it would work. DMC2 was bad , so much that a remake that fix it would be welcomed. Everyone of the fandom likes Lucia and thinks some bosses designs were cool , let alone they are passionate to DMC2 Dante costume. Fixing it's combat system is the easiest one: just pulls DMC5 gameplay. While it's story had such a terrible execution , that it would be difficult to make worse. It's the primary example of that phrase: "when you go down , the only direction left is going up"

[@Jose-se9pu]

DMC2 was just another day on Dante's life. It is canon, it happened, its bean 16 years already, deal with it.

[@Jose-se9pu]

@@phantasosxgames8488 REmake 2 is shit.

[@Dr_Bille]

She says he "lost a mother and a brother to evil 20 years ago". It obviously wasn't intended, but the line can work as referencing Eva's death, and starting Vergil down his own path of evil. It's made explicit in 3 and especially 5, that that night is the night that made vergil who he is

[@Nico-the-Nacho]

"Takin' notes?" "I'm never not" NEEEERRRRRRRRRD!!!

[@alseid8709]

I don't care what anyone says, Eva was an Umbra Witch and Hitoshura is the best boy of the DMC Cinematic Universe.

[@joseurbina3835]

Alseid It’s “Extended Universe” Dip-Shit.

[@sonicelimario2892]

That's stupid it is basically ruins the entire point dmc 3 plot where it was all dante waking up to humanity

[@cruel-fire9995]

I was hoping you would make this video, thanks mister snake 🙂👊

[@The4thSnake]

No problem.👊

[@FoxNinja4000]

This fits my calculations for Dante's age.

[@cake6851]

Then there is Visions of V taking place during the early moments of 5. Particularly between vergil stealing Nero's arm and well the manga isn't finished yet

[@greatneos]

they should make devil may cry zero/origins and make a backstory about sparda why he save humanity and he is still a mistery.

[@kuroiryu9434]

I think DMC name sould be more directed as a Dante stories, Maybe a name like Devils Shall Cry for Sparda's story.

[@HeartDAlyson]

I would love a Sparda game, but what I do appreciate now about the series( that I didn't notice till God of War (2018) is that you never see flashbacks of sparda, we only know what he looks like through unlock able skins. But we never see what he is like. We only ever hear about Sparda from those who loved him, respected him, and hated him. All the way back to the first game, in the anime and novels we only hear stories. I think that's great that we get an interpretation of his personality instead of just flat out having Sparda show us. One of the few times "tell don't show" works to a characters advantage. I would love a Sparda game but at the same time I think its best we don't.

[@HazmanFTW]

Oh yes, been waiting on this. :D

[@MegaUnavalible]

Yeah the people who say that Trish's name is mentioned in Bayonetta means that it's a shared universe are idiots because they also mention okami and Street fighter characters and we know.that those are two separate universes because of the world's unite crossover which have Archie Sonic, Archie Mega man (even though the Archie comics for MegaMan can be considered Canon), NiGHTS, Skies of Arcadia, Golden axe, Panzer Dragoon, Okami, Monster Hunter, Sonic boom, and Alex Kidd meet each other by going through other UNIVERSES through Genesis portals to defeat sigma from mega Man x

[@TheRibbonRed]

That last bit lmao. Better take notes.

[@JuanRodriguez-gd9lb]

I believe that Devil May Cry and Bayonetta are in or share the same universe whether if it’s true or not I still believe because they eventually have to crossover at some point Hideki Kamiya doesn’t mind making a game with those two but only if he gets the rights from Capcom first

[@blackout1524]

It's not true though. But there's nothing wrong with believing your own fanfiction.

[@disquietellie]

Late reply, but better than the above comment, nothing wrong with making your own fanfiction

[@salsamancer]

I think Capcom and Bingo really don't care about consistency that much, there's always going to be gaping holes in the timeline.

[@abelzerihun7985]

10:23 10:30 Why would Dante work for Lucifer in the first place? Also at 10:34 that's a mobile game by the company that (retconned Dante out of SMT3) bought Atlas. In a way that mobile game can still be considered Dante's first inclusion into SMT.

[@ronniesanders8546]

Why don't we just assume that Dante is probably over 100 plus. He is half Demon. Or Cambion by lore since. He most likely order than he appears. Most likely slow aging.

[@The4thSnake]

Because that's been stated to not be true.

[@ronniesanders8546]

@@The4thSnake You sure on that there are many half demons who appear younger than there actual age. Take Inuyasha. He looks 15 but he's older than Wolverine. About 200 years plus.

[@The4thSnake]

@@ronniesanders8546 Kamiya said so.

[@ronniesanders8546]

@@The4thSnake Ok.

[@ronniesanders8546]

@@The4thSnake Who's Kamiya 😆.

[@kaloyanenev9652]

Patty's age is stated in DMC 5 and it is 18, which kinda fucks up the timeline

[@killerman3715]

Anime dante is 28 or 29 Patty age is 10 😰

[@francescopiani1122]

2:44 Enzo!! Wow he isn't only in bayonetta s' franchise

[@TheExFatal]

The dmc5 novel states that it takes place 5 years after 4

[@oscarb.1554]

But man, in the first novel dante uses his dmc1 outfit, and also carries the force edge (which is obtained at the end of dmc3), and also gilver is mean to be under mundus control already and when he "DT' he takes the form of nelo angelo

[@columbatiberius2176]

Could you do a Wasted Plotential for Lucia? She's my favourite of all the Devil May Cry girls and I miss her. I also think between her and Devil May Cry 4 there's an interesting commonality when it comes to Artificial Devils. They are largely more Angelic looking than one might expect of a Devil.

[@TheGoldenAlchemist86]

Just seeing enzo makes me mad that bayonetta don't exist in the same universe

[@songoku9348]

Happy Easter 4th Snake. Funny enough, I was wondering if you were going to make an update to the Dante age video.

[@MrDarksol]

Man I still need to get DMC 5 at some point. It may be dumb at times but at least it is a fun franchise and wow so much thought and insight into DMC lore! Very intresting.

[@CodeStew]

If I'm not mistakened, DMC1 Novel illustrations suggests that he had Force Edge however I don't remember if it is ever mentioned by name. Been a while since i read it, but the fact that might havev force edge really messes with consistency since it is officially canon again. Whatever, Rebellion changed designs again.

[@The4thSnake]

Basically, yeah. I think the epilogue leads directly into the game too, so that has to be ignored.

[@theinsp3ctor368]

Perfect timing!

[@jeremybriggs6951]

"Good old-fashioned retcons because we're some lazy f**** that don't give a damn"

[@nazishhussain2712]

Timeline felt like one big punch in the chin

[@keithcreatesmedia6503]

Do a Video on Nero's Deadbeat yet badass Dad

[@doelroarpa3489]

Dmc 2 in now set prior to 4 After a decade of us understanding 2 to come before 4 ?

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

+The4thSnake Oh come on I can dream Demi-Fiend will one day show up in a dmc game cant I?

[@ayaanabdullah937]

I think currently he's 39-40 years old. Again, that's just me. :-)

[@clarehidalgo]

I remember the staff said in DMC4 Dante was in his late 30s (so between 37-39) and according to this video DMC 5 takes place at least 6 years after that based on Nico's presence so that'd make him between 43-45 maybe 46 at most. That puts Dante and Vergil's ages around their actor's ages as of when the game come out Reuben being 43 and Dan being 44 as of the release

[@ayaanabdullah937]

@@clarehidalgo That makes sense yeah... I came at the 39-40 conclusion because patty was 18, which made her 8 in the anime, and that would mean it was set 10 years before 5, but the novel states that DMC2 was also set a decade ago, which made me believe that the anime was set a year after the first game, and the second game a few months after. And as for the devs saying he looked as if in his late thirties, that can be easily retconned. Again, that's just me.

[@galaxy_kitten95]

Clare Hidalgo I would like to believe that, but there’s only one little detail: If the twins are at least 45 during the events of 5, that would place Nero at 27 years old. He doesn’t even look like he’s in his late 20s to me.

[@javiermonsalves1242]

welp, now wait to DMC 6 (in some years) and Vsions of V for his place in the timeline, when the times come (sorry for my bad English)

[@jojo1cool]

Wait. Sparda died in the same attack when Eva died? I thought he died earlier due to old age after sacrificing his power, which is why mundus came to attack to kill his sons before they try to target him in the future.

[@The4thSnake]

That's what I said.

[@sourdog5867]

Well in dmc1... they said millennia ago when they were talking about his dad so basically his dad can live normally when he's 200 but dante is half human sooo maybe dante can die young or live for couple of hundred years?

[@TheKazuma410P]

Dante in that first Novel gives me Ragna vibes in style. (Yeah I know Ragna was based off Dante no need to repeat it)

[@omiorahman6283]

10:35 what happened ? is it legit ?

[@SheldonSempai420]

I dont get it

[@omiorahman6283]

@@SheldonSempai420 the crossover being. Legit. Turns out Dante and friends show up in a mobile game about smt named liberation or something for a limited event

[@ramengodzilla]

I played the shin megami tensei mobile game during the DMC5 event and the event ends with Dante Nero V and Nico going back to their own universe so Dante is non canon to SMT

[@raffleslovecraftfriends8375]

Not exactly SMT works on multiverse logic.... So while SMT is not canon to Devil May Cry. Devil May Cry is canon to SMT.

[@kingweeb3365]

10:35 um... can someone explain this to me?

[@2a2n]

Wait I thought Dante's shop was unnamed until after his whole thing with Trish

[@The4thSnake]

No, he names it at the end of 3.

[@superconsole118]

Virgil could be Gilver, I felt dmc5 implied that Dante and Virgil have had other fights throughout the timeline.

[@r.i.p.plegaming2327]

Triah was a downgrade to Eva as the former’s frontal ballistics are smaller than the latter’s

[@dlausactor6373]

So... Megami Tensei timeline when? Can’t wait for the aneurism you’ll get from that one...

[@HyPhYx420]

I know this is off topic but i cant wait for your mk11 story review/rant cause the story was shit and i know you will feel the same

[@sonicelimario2892]

Mister 4thsnake you would say darkstalkers is canon to devil may cry but bayonetta and smt(one of them dante made it in) is not canon that makes sense

[@TheSimmr001]

10:35 ....oh god SMT canon is fucked enough

[@alexanderblanchett6894]

Damn I liked it better when I thought dante was an ageless 20000 yrs old guy infinite chance for more games

[@AN-wz8tt]

Who.come up with the business name how he get the dmc devil may Cry

[@kersaherpafuqer784]

The thumbnail has the wrong guy

[@Ineedgames]

Don't you mean AS (After Sparda)?

[@galinmeric2149]

3rd time? Now 20 times easier since patty

[@jonjohn9930]

wait, dmc has anime and manga version ? where have i been all these years ?

[@tobyvenom]

When is the Injustice 2 critique coming out? We all know your gonna do it

[@TevyaSmolka]

Yay devil may cry

[@chocolatelover19]

I like this video

[@user-qf6li2wv4i]

but... but Nero in DMC 4 is like... 16? or 17 at least? anyway, Dante is around 40 by DMC 5 (at least, that's what novel says), which makes him ~35 y.o. by 4 game.

[@DrakeVagabond]

remember when we all thought V was Nico's sister for some reason?

[@The4thSnake]

The book like Arkham and dark hair like Lady.

[@astern.7425]

There was a leak that stated something like that, he was an orphan and got adopted by nico's family or something

[@daasbuffy]

Completely unrelated to the video. I can't wait for your story review/breakdown of MK11. It's so stupid and I have opinions! I really want to hear someone to rip it to shreads.

[@_recipeh]

10:14 Come on, this is Japan, everything is canon

[@nono547]

Bayonnetta and DMC definitively share a common universe FIGHT ME!

[@dshvd2410]

Angels don't exist in DMC universe. I rest my case.

[@nono547]

@@dshvd2410 Affirmation that was done even before Bayonnetta exist, you can work arround that. I mean the same scriptwritter work on both games and kamya clearly want them to share a same universe. Hell nothing in DMC5 realy contradict the shared univers, hell the way V practice magic look awfuly similar the way bonnetta use it... which has to be the most they can do before facing legal issues. Your case is weak

[@blackout1524]

Nothing to fight about. Enzo in the DMC universe has lost his arm due to a devil arm. Meanwhile the Enzo in Bayonetta has both his arms.

[@nono547]

@@blackout1524 Not realy an argument, but Well... if Morrison Can turn black between the anime and dmc5, i can buy that Enzo regrow an arm too. To be honnest i don't realy understand why some people seems to don't want a Bayonnetta x DMC univers when the creators cleary seems to want it... x) As Vergil would put it "WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO GAIN POWER!!!"

[@blackout1524]

Morrisons skin color doesn't effect the story. Enzo's arm does as it's the reason Trish left the shop along with Dante leaving Agni and Rudra behind at the end of the drama CD. Only Kamiya said he wouldn't mind a crossover along with constantly referencing DMC in his games including the DMC games he never made. Capcom has never shown interest in a crossover nor has any DMC game ever referenced Bayonetta.

[@chestermark1087]

Dante and Cereza have the same manager bruh

[@casanovajackson1023]

Dante is 42 Vergil made @ 17

[@ADEtheMayhem]

In the novel gilver dies and it's revelead to be vergil but he disappears in a cloud of dust exactly like nelo angelo did when defetead. I know gilver and his action are hard to link with vergil but what about this defeat at the hands of dante is the reason vergil unlocks his Devil Trigger? After the gilver incident Vergil returns way stronger than dante without any explanation on how he got it

[@phantasosxgames8488]

Vergil unlocked his devil trigger when those demons attacked him , long before Dante. Showing a cloud of dust could indicate that Gilver may be some sort of copy , like Trish.

[@ADEtheMayhem]

@@phantasosxgames8488 But Gilver had the yamato and if he did unlock dt the day eva died tony could never been able to defeat gilver

[@CodeStew]

​@@ADEtheMayhem After Dante defeated Gilver, the novel said this in regards to the sword. "Dante dropped both items, letting himself fall back to the floor. The sword having lost its master crumbled to dust." If Gilver is a clone, that wouldn't have been Yamato. If I'm not mistakened, Yamato isn't referred to by name but it's been a while since i read the novel. Honestly, they either should have ignored this novel or released a updated variant of it.

[@ADEtheMayhem]

@@CodeStew This novel works but it definetly needs some(much) HeadCanon. Gilver Can't be a clone because he had also the pedant with the name vergil written on it, at most one could think Vergil was posseded, but i like to think that the true Vergil is born after being defetead by Dante

[@Jack_Mercer]

What's this Dx2? First time I'm hearing about it

[@jondoe7036]

Clemps is Jesus confirmed

[@NamelessEmiya]

Sooo shared universe huh

[@platinumg150]

Here's the thing I don't like that nobody's mentioned. Vergil died in 28AD after being killed as nelo angelo. 16 years later he comes back with no explanation and a weakened body. HOW?! What happened in those 16 years if he was dead!

[@xMasterSparku]

I expected them to say that he didn't die as Nero Angelo cause we never saw him die. We heard him teleport away just like every other boss fight with him. But nope, they flat out say Dante killed Vergil once and then offer no explanation as to how he comes back.

[@platinumg150]

@@xMasterSparku exactly,like if you was gonna bring back vergil make him a good guy and give an explanation as to how he's alive. Neither of those things happened and so it feels like fanservice the way they did it. And were now waiting for the next game to be a nero exclusive. (I have have this feeling that they're gonna do that and I don't want to believe it.)

[@TheBlackSaiyan97]

They thing is tho Vergil never died in dmc 1. Mundus clearly stated Vergil has been defeated. Defeat does not mean dead.

[@platinumg150]

@@TheBlackSaiyan97 it was definitely implied that vergil died

[@TheBlackSaiyan97]

@@platinumg150 it wasn't tho. They never stated Vergil died.

[@wilhelmscream3813]

I want to know who Nero's mother is.

[@curtisgangler5855]

How did Sparta die

[@frogoat]

Posts a Mortal Combat video: heaps of views. Posts a DMC5 video: less views. People are stupid.

[@1zzat]

Isnt it obvious? Dante is 500,000 years old.

[@nickramos5614]

Lol good joke

[@fatemehghanbari7203]

Sorry bud but sparda doesnt died he just banish in another real wich dante and vergil can find it he still alive

[@horsenuggets1018]

Morrison is the most powerful guy as he learned the secret to the n word

[@harryhardwick3267]

Just... don't count the stage thingy

[@JogVodka]

Whats the song playing in 4:01

[@yoariku1]

First of all. I am in heaven, died as ur subscriber count went to zero and u said 'fuck'. Second... Wtf is that Mr. Clemps as Jesus? 😂

[@headbreakable]

maybe Chris was on steroid...and I don't think Sparda is dead.

[@baka1236]

SMT timeline when?

[@MegaUnavalible]

No do fire emblem

[@cinnamonpanda6040]

The game timeline is weird, 2 is retcon as non canon acording to an interview, anime is canon kinda

[@zffrailgun1630]

2 is not retconned and the anime is in the timeline. It is officially like this: DMC3-DMC1-Anime-DMC2-DMC4-DMC5

[@cinnamonpanda6040]

@@zffrailgun1630 oh they Reretconed

[@nukestatic4951]

Who's Nero Mom?! Y nobody talking about that

[@fatalisxiv]

Nero's mom is a 'prostitute', in DMC4:SE in a cutscene introducing Vergil walking into the streets of Fortuna, he fights several demons and after that he continues wandering the streets. Before the cutscene ends, the camera focuses on a woman, who glances at Vergil. And that's p much Nero's mom.

[@nukestatic4951]

@@fatalisxiv You right! But damn we need more details on her tho😂

[@TheFeri]

I still don't understand how the anime can be canon when Morrison in the anime is white but in 5 is black... And even they personalyties are different

[@dmk3859]

😥 itsuno san follows me on twitter😣😖

[@blakemelhuish1118]

What about the part where on rubens yt channel he straight up says Dante’s “roughly” 30 (30-33) in 4

[@The4thSnake]

That doesn't add up with the evidence at all.