The Strange New Worlds Explored in TOS

[@OrangeRiver]

*NOTE: The location of FGC-892 and the M-class planet from "By Any Other Name" can be resolved on this map from Star Trek Maps: www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/startrek-maps/0004.jpg Big thanks to @Geovideo333 for providing that resource! (And helping me find the real location of Omicron Delta from season 1)! Become a patron at www.patreon.com/orangeriver or a member by clicking the "Join" button on my channel page to download a 16k render of the map I made for this series!

[@beepboop204]

i support u all the way :)

[@ammosophobia]

Please continue with TAS ... you're onto a legendary series here.

[@michaelmachiavelli]

I would love you to keep going with this. The movies, then TNG, and ESPECIALLY a deep dive into the Dominion war would be amazing!!!!

[@TK199999]

What I find werid is that VOY admits that Super nova's only happen in Milky Way galaxy about once or twice a century. But in TOS it happens like 6 times. Also stars that can go nova are super giants and have life spans measured in millions of years, no where near long enough for complex to evolve. The only work around I can see is either something unknown (or known in universe but unknown to the viewer) is destabilizing G-K stars. Or nova is another term for going Red Giant phase which G-K stars will enter after few billion years.

[@statistical-cats-sophia]

You know when you read a fantasy book and they have a map in the front, and throughout the book you're just flipping back and forth trying to figure out where the characters are? This is that, on klingon steroids

[@bethanygee6939]

Yeah, that follows. I've done that since I read LOTR as a kid and then graduated to Trek.

[@shaindaman13]

No. Few of us know that. Few of us have obtained that level of Geekdom because we have in mind the Fiction aspect of the Science Fiction genre.

[@deadend1041]

​@@bethanygee6939 I actually had to break out the map and show where everyone was going in Lord of the Rings to get the message across of what a miracle it was that the movie worked out the way it did.

[@liwojenkins]

@@shaindaman13 Normies tend to geek out all the time on false information, they just call it news instead of fiction. Unfortunately most of them wouldn't be able to find anything on the map of the planet thy actually live on.

[@mikebell2112]

If I see a map at the front of a book, I make another selection.

[@7XDDM]

I forgot how charming TOS is. There's something special about the show that kept bringing smiles to my face when you brought up the episodes.

[@trekkieforlife1988]

Just for sheer originality and creativity on this video, you deserve every view that you get.

[@geoffreygriffin4807]

Yep.He's putting out original content.

[@L33Reacts]

Thank you sir. Can I get you a Gorn Burrito to go?

[@OrangeRiver]

Thank you James!

[@dave87974]

This is the level of sheer nerdiness and attention to detail I've come to expect of you. Well done, sir.

[@OrangeRiver]

Thanks David!

[@johntauren]

It would be neat to see this for other series, especially Voyager. The Deadly Years rapid aging was not an experiment gone wrong, but radiation from a comet.

[@amehak1922]

The book Star Trek star charts already shows the voyager's (and the NX Enterprise's) routes.

[@theicmn]

I want to see a map of Deep Space 9, just sitting there for 7 years.

[@michaelmachiavelli]

​@@theicmnYou forget the Dominion War. You could do a whole series on the battles and territory exchanges.

[@theicmn]

@@michaelmachiavelli No, that would be a map from missions of the Defiant and other ships. I want to see see DS9 sit in one spot for a couple years, move to cover the wormhole and sit there till the show ends.

[@mikecobalt7005]

"Lord, Garth!" :) It's really something to have put all this effort and time into creating these maps; they really help alot and explain more.

[@jjsheets330]

Where no Cartographer has gone before. Great hard hitting content as always Tyler.

[@OrangeRiver]

Thank you so much!

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@OrangeRiver Really good work here, overall! I'd be interested to see some TNG worlds handled. Or maybe the New Frontier novels? (Some fans put their Sector 221-G near to the Typhon Expanse, as I recall) As for Daran II, it's placed in the novel Ex Machina, by Christopher L. Bennett, far on the other side of Romulan space, and practically almost to Beta Stromgen, for that matter. Part of the Lantaru sector, that Voyager once alluded to (in 'The Omega Conspiracy' I believe) I've also been trying to partially sort out the Sector system, which is, not to put too fine a point on it, a major headache at times. Generally each sector has two, three, four or five digits, but presumably they are usually a short-hand for the five digit one. Ones near Earth and the core Federation tend to begin with 211**, a few with 22***, and some around the far end of Romulan space may begin with 23***. Sectors far to the 'north' end tend to be lower numbers, below 20000. Conversely, Beta Stromgren is placed in Sector 25434, but the Mutara sector is supposedly Sector 25712, and far to the rimward end of Klingon space. Mind you, notes in Memory Alpha are very erratic, concerning details for that sector, however you locate it. Anyway, very impressed!

[@Numba003]

Regardless of any issues or questions of accuracy, I really enjoy these episodes. Thank you for indulging this map-loving nerd lol. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

[@Numba003]

@@subraxas I'm happy to be here. This has become one of my favorite channels.

[@ammosophobia]

This is amazing. I actually used to sit at an old drafting desk when I was 8-9 years old and not only draw out my own deck plans, but maps. I even used the "map" from the TOS NES game and put it on my chart.

[@nobody8717]

Elite Dangerous is a good example if you want some b-roll of how the galaxy looks, and to explain the 3d-compression effect you were talking about.

[@davisre1982]

What an endeavor! Thank you so much for doing this! It would be massively larger of a project, but I would love to see TNG maps like this. I do wish we could see what the course was of the TNG crew, but I doubt that project will ever happen. 7 years of start charts would be a tough sell. Thank you again, Tyler!❤

[@OrangeRiver]

Glad you enjoyed the video! I'm already planning on making TNG map videos, but yeah it's gonna be a time commitment! Lol. Will probably be awhile.

[@davisre1982]

@@OrangeRiver that's awesome!!! Best of luck with the project. 😀

[@starmnsixty1209]

Well done! Look forward to the TAS maps, and the rest.

[@dannyh13100]

The route of the original Enterprise is a question I’ve never had, and now that it’s been answered, I can say that there’s a lot of zig-zagging throughout the galaxy, and a lot of downtime between some planets.

[@RPGFort]

I absolutely love this idea and I'm SO EXCITED that this is a multi episode project.

[@Geovideo333]

Years from now you'll look back on this project and say "Wow, that was worth it, but it sucked how much time I had to put in to it." When I first attempted to do this it was the early 80's and Star Trek Maps was all we had and , at that time, what we thought was all we needed. Naive. hahaha. We were using pins in the wall with strings attached (actually flouresenct pink yarn) . Hail to the digital world !!!. However, it became apparent to us, even then, that what we needed was a 3D representation because, after all, space is in 3D, and even that is up for debate. Very well done. The old Trekkers are still watching and glad to find those that still 'keep the faith'. Peace, and long life.

[@gregcampwriter]

The Scalosians didn't have to kidnap Kirk as breeding stock. They could just have had someone buy him a drink, admire his ship, need help in his general vicinity, involve him in a fight....

[@rayvenkman2087]

Or ask for a sperm donation. I don’t see how a sophisticated alien race would not know such a simple process.

[@liamscienceguy8153]

I really hope you add the path of the Enterprise during the TOS movies and really every series eventually. DS9 will prove interesting, and Voyager’ll need so many separate insets. Enterprise would be particularly interesting to overlay onto the TOS map.

[@ditzyneko637]

Thank you for going through with the map of Enterprise's trek.

[@CaliforniaBushman]

Never knew this was even possible thinking some systems were fictional with TOS. Impressive work!

[@Decrepit_biker]

BRAIN AND BRAIN, WHAT IS BRAIN? Classic.

[@lancesmith359]

Ay the question for 99% of Americans

[@ericbrown2336]

I'm not a massive Trek fan, but your breakdowns and takes are comprehensive, accurate and produced very well which keeps me coming back to learn about the franchise. I think I only disliked what I perceived as intersectional politics in your prime directive video but I watched it all and it was good. Interesting vid though, please keep up the good work.

[@RichardEKranz]

Interesting. Maybe you can do the mapping of Red Dwarf so we can see where the smeggers made their way through the galaxy.

[@RichardEKranz]

@@subraxas And Talky Toaster! But it would good for a hoot compared to the mapping out the original Enterprises travels.

[@markholmphotography]

Great job - as soon as I can - money is very thigh as my car just died and I’ve gotta get a new one - but outstanding work

[@ginja6582]

Another banger map video! Hopefully you continue to do this and your videos will be used for a star chart book that allows for people to make Star Trek stories that are more accurate

[@pocketheart1450]

I hope you do this for the other series as well. All of them. I love this.

[@QalOrt]

First Junkball with the Jenolan, then We Travel By Night with a Phase 2 Enterprise Video, next you with the Enterprise route for seasons 2 and 3, today is a good day for Trek Content

[@serqetry]

This video was awesome! I had no idea Star Trek was this consistent with locations. One thing that I have found really strange is how during DS9 the Alpha Quadrant became synonymous with so many races, Federation and otherwise, that are actually in the Beta Quadrant... yet the Beta Quadrant is rarely mentioned. Even the Romulans talk about the Dominion War as being an Alpha Quadrant thing.

[@serqetry]

Also it has annoyed me for a long time that astronomers won't adopt the Star Trek quadrant system, they use a different one where our solar system is the center... way too heliocentric for modern times if you ask me.

[@merafirewing6591]

​@@serqetry honestly I find the whole heliocentric stuff a load of bull.

[@Nitero_]

You truly are boldly going where no one as gone before...

[@bobologic6849]

thanks for your effort on TOS map

[@DorianEudesSeverin]

This is one of your finest work, I love what you do in general, but this is deep delve into lore, and I love it.

[@OrangeRiver]

Thank you!

[@clubx1000]

Amazing

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

Great job! Interesting to see how clustered together most of the stars are. Perhaps some of the outliers were special missions where indications of intelligent life had been identified by Federation astronomers?

[@oliverwisniewski]

Great video! You did a great job mapping out everything

[@OrangeRiver]

Thank you Oliver! It was indeed a very painstaking process

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Really awesome video, we can see the amount of work that has gone into this. It must have been challenging at times to get your head around things. It's been presented as clearly as it can be given how complex a subject it is. As I've said before your material is always great, whether it be Star Trek, Mass Effect or, erm... Star Trek, but be proud of what you've accomplished.

[@OrangeRiver]

Thanks James!

[@wayner396]

Thank you so much for this. I've always wanted something like this since I was young.

[@sartainja]

Superb work for us Trek fans. 👍

[@ottolehikoinen6193]

Briefly considered to do a starmap of dominating factions in Elite Dangerous and soon realised in many cases they are within each other. This is a great effort.

[@monkeywrench2800]

I feel like the Vulcans (given their central location to the TOS misadventures) could have spared the crew from a lot of misery. Especially odd that they wouldn't warn them of super powerful local entities to avoid. Jus sayin....

[@deadend1041]

I always thought the Vulcans were just the most oblivious aliens in star trek. I figured they pay attention to absolutely nothing and notice almost nothing they didn't even know the romulans existed, even though they're the same race with a shared history.

[@jamesstricklerii5384]

This is awesome! Are there plans to do this for TNG and DS9 as well?

[@OrangeRiver]

TNG, definitely! But probably after I finish my retrospective series. As for DS9, maybe--there's not as much to do (perhaps some of their exploits in the Gamma Quadrant), but I've always wanted to map the Dominion War!

[@beberivera7011]

you're content never disappoints! you're the dopest super nerd and I appreciate you! 🖖

[@aaronbryant8074]

We need this for TNG next!

[@budscroggins2632]

Outstanding work!

[@jasperdoornbos8989]

A nice surprise! I was completely forgotten I is Friday (because yesterday it was Kings Day, so a day off). Loved it, thanks Tyler!

[@jymfysher7704]

A great try to make sense out of something(Space)that is moving and reshaping itself.

[@OrangeRiver]

Thanks Jym!

[@charlesroyal5125]

Amazing video

[@Cavemanner]

Damn, you always manage to amaze eith the depth of your research and reasoning! Here's to hoping you have a go at mapping one of the other series! 🖖

[@mikebozik]

Wow, this is great! I love the way you did the graphics on this one! 😊😊😊

[@beezelbuzzel]

Wonderful content as always! I hope you continue this into TNG and beyond. Though, DS9 is easily my favorite Trek, it would be rough lol. I have no love of Voyager, but a series charting their journey would be pretty rad. Not to mention Enterprise! Thanks for all the hard work fella!

[@OrangeRiver]

Thanks beezelbuzzel!

[@Geoffrey___]

Great episode! You have the best, most ambitious content! 👍🖖

[@OrangeRiver]

Thank you Geoffrey!!!

[@davidm5746]

This is ace.

[@julianaylor4351]

Totally agree, Spock's Brain.....😁😂🤣.

[@rayvenkman2087]

“They’ve got Spock’s Brain!” McCoy says with the stern weighty seriousness like it’s the Caves of Androzani.

[@faumnamara5181]

Next you have to do animated 3D Map :)

[@OrangeRiver]

Haha, that would be cool!

[@4TheRecord]

To boldly map where no map has mapped before.

[@nightlightabcd]

And to think that it only took a week to get from one location to the next!

[@OrangeRiver]

😂

[@gorymarty56]

I love your channel

[@komradewirelesscaller6716]

It's actually never stated for a fact in The Tholian Web that that episode is the first time that the Federation has made contact with the Tholians. And Spock even remarks in that episode about "renown Tholian punctuality!" Which would certainly seem to strongly suggest that the two have had prior contact with each other. Your defintely right about the fact that the galactic map from Conspiracy has some real gaffes in it. It even has Pollux 4 and the Beta Gemanora system as two totally different systems. However, they are actuallly the same system! The map also has a number of other mistakes.

[@scottboyer2391]

Love these videos

[@ClintSprayberry]

Woo Hoo! (*du da, da du na na, da do do do do) WOO HOO ... (Like, as in Blur - Song 2 ... Get it, Get it, huh? Huh, 😅

[@TheStarTrekApologist]

As I will bring up in my upcloming Star Map video, Scalos is said to be in an Outer Quadrent of the Galaxy, while two episodes later they say Cheron is in a quaredent in the southern most part of the galaxy. So I just assume that all three worlds are in Vernal Quadrent 4. Something I willl explain in the video I am working on.

[@timmiller1954]

quadrant

[@RyanHaney55]

This makes me want to rewatch TOS. I think I'll start to do so after the NFL Draft, tonight. 🖖

[@JaredLS10]

How do you define First Contact? The NX-01 made contact with the Tholians when they had a future timepod onboard.

[@mxk6104]

I love beautiful maps and you're right, this is a pretty complete map from what I've seen over the years 🙂 I wonder if you could get a licensing deal from Paramount for your map...

[@oldtimefarmboy617]

For ships intended to be deep space explorers, the Federation's flagships did not spend much time exploring deep space. To navigate through tree dimensional space you have to use and XYZ grid. That means to get someplace you have to have an XYZ coordinate for where you are and an XYZ coordinate for where you want to go before you can plot a course.

[@mb2000]

I always found it odd that the Federation would have that seperate area ‘behind’ Klingon and Romulan space. Seems like it’d be fairly easy for either of those to cut it off from the rest of the Federation.

[@captainufo4587]

You're thinking 2D. Space is 3D. It's entirely possible that the Federation goes below the Klingon and/or Romulan Empire or vice versa.

[@mb2000]

@@captainufo4587 I get that space doesn’t look like the map in the video, maybe there’s a lot of Federation space above and below, but seems like it wouldn’t be that hard for the Romulans/Klingons to block access by going up or down into whatever Federation space passes them?

[@captainufo4587]

@@mb2000 How do you do that? There's no limit to up in space. Nor down. Even considering the barrier and that the galaxy is much more wider than it's thick, there's quite a lo of thickness to deal with. If they can't blockade horizontally, they can't blockade vertically either.

[@mb2000]

@@captainufo4587 I don’t know, that’s why I wonder these things.

[@davidseligman6445]

Probably how Russia and Canada look at Alaska.

[@davelightman]

Very good, well done!

[@theenchiladakid1866]

I like that star trek still a lot of mystery to it's gallery to explore over star wars that has a wiki page for every fart and dust cloud

[@TONYGILLEY]

If you do the Kirk-era films, it should be relatively easy to catalog...at least until you get to Star Trek V. I asked if you were going to cover the animated series, but with Star Trek Picard coming to an end, I hope you cover the Picard's journey with the Enterprise-D during all of TNG. (At the end of the Video: Never mind, you answered my question! Cool!! Can't wait to see them)

[@rayvenkman2087]

In TOS, the Enterprise had gone absurd distances and if we want to make sense of the distance they’ve made; blame the monkeys who built the Enterprise-A.

[@charlesroyal5125]

We need a TNG star chart video. The long term diplomatic mission

[@OrangeRiver]

Working on TNG maps right now! But it's gonna be a huge time commitment. Probably won't have any videos ready for several months.

[@OrangeRiver]

@subraxas ?

[@dys1525]

A red shirt. Tyler´s living his life on the fastlane.

[@mrgreatbigmoose]

Yes! Season 2!

[@VAPYD]

I can't wait for the TAS and movies ones!

[@ayoubbelmahdi6032]

Just watched episode 5 , crazy!

[@BR-zw6pb]

your mustache looks like two capybaras kissing

[@elendil95]

Awesome video (as always) 🥳 Can you please please try to do the same with the route of the Voyager? 🤭

[@crsrdash-840b5]

The problem is time and distance by speed to reach each. If the adventures did happen in 3-5 years, warp top speed of Warp 7 would take 4-7 weeks or 6-9 weeks around the Netrul Zone. That's my guess.

[@rockerboyrage1609]

Please continue with the films and other series

[@arrow1414]

I presume to get to Gamma Hydra 4 they went *around* Romulan territory. Edit: I take this back: I fell for the 2D trap (like Kahn did in STII:TWoK). For all I know the planet could be well "above" or "below" Romulan territory.

[@Tom_Hensley]

I need some new space weed to understand this.

[@brandonb1681]

Whenever I hear about Canopus, I think of Dune. Canopus III is Arrakis.

[@bob_._.]

Just thought I'd mention Star Trek Continues, which is at least semi-canon and fills in the gap between TOS and TMP.

[@OrangeRiver]

It's not "at least semi-canon," but I did enjoy it lol

[@TheScandoman]

Man, those non-corporeal entities sure can be a handful!

[@VAPYD]

Let's dive in? LET'S DIVE IN?! That's not the line! Do it right.

[@geekehUK]

Okay so I haven't seen the video yet but I wanted to ask you a question and thought that it might make part of a broader video on the ethical treatment of AI in Star Trek. (It'll give you an excuse to showcase some of Robert Picardo's excellent acting, including when the doctor falls apart after choosing to save one life over another). Do you think that by programming Data to "desire" to become more human, Soong was basically just torturing him? It was a thought I had recently after watching Picard, and I was curious about your take on it.

[@russellharrell2747]

Well, anyone who’s seen Lessons knows that Stellar Cartography is where all the action is at.

[@CaptainBardiel]

Or Astrometrics

[@GroversMill]

My gawd we are nerds...I couldn't be happier :)

[@merafirewing6591]

I wonder, could you do a map series for Star Trek Enterprise?

[@OrangeRiver]

I'd like to! It'll be a little bit harder but I'm planning on it.

[@merafirewing6591]

@@OrangeRiver 👍

[@LazloH]

i always say hi back during the intro - anyone else do this?

[@VAPYD]

It's also possible that the Ardanians just "paused" slavery in order to be admitted to the Federation and resumed the practice some time after. One might argue that the Federation would have done something about it, but that's politics.

[@sonnieslim5973]

Loooove this

[@gregcampwriter]

I used to use the SolStation 3-d chart of stars within forty-seven light years of Earth for my own writing, but the site requires Java, and browsers these days don't allow that. Are there any alternatives?

[@Low_Rent]

What is “one of those episodes”?

[@OrangeRiver]

One of those that sucks off America I guess lol

[@eclectichawk4790]

Is there a difference between Gamma Hydra Section 10 and Gamma Hydra? As Section 10 is inside the Klingon Neutral Zone.

[@imperfectxennial3008]

Can you do the 7 seasons of TNG? I would watch it.

[@dragonprinceHP]

Have you ever considered doing anything about "The Orville"? Just wondering :)

[@OrangeRiver]

I have thoughts on The Orville! Just haven't turned them into a cohesive script yet ;)

[@borisbadaxe9678]

All I know is the original crew traveled to both the far edge of the galaxy and the very center of the galaxy during their lifetimes. And this was long before Voyager.

[@TheVgrey]

Do you have vids on the doomsday mashine?

[@OrangeRiver]

Not yet!

[@misterlau5246]

The second season's route was easier to get than the first season's.. Third season, dunno. Anyways, lots of work, this surely took a while and more than one headache. Have you done the voyager's route?

[@theiathegondia7349]

Alot of stuff from other galaxies seems to show up in tos compared to later series

[@keirfarnum6811]

Where do you get these weird pronunciations for Star systems from? “Altair” is just “Al-tear” (“tear” as in to rip something; not the tear that comes from an eye). And Eridani is “Erih-danny.”

[@jsalazar3]

Exactly

[@OrangeRiver]

Y'all are both wrong, I pronounced them correctly. I *used to* think that they were pronounced the way you think they're supposed to be.

[@OrangeRiver]

@subraxas "Broken Bow" was my fault, but I'm right this time lol