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@CheeseNumbs27 Жыл бұрын
Hi
@Knockee Жыл бұрын
Ok
@yaoiswow Жыл бұрын
Ok
@mmelon_JEbel Жыл бұрын
Check Community posts@titanspeakermandc2294
@JM-qb2kd Жыл бұрын
It would be a glories world if we could stop calling national socialism fascist. They were certainly different ideologies, only really being similar through socialist principles
@rafaelgustavo7786 Жыл бұрын
Italy is the ultimate proof that its soldiers can be brave, but if: - their logistics are bad. - your technology lags behind your enemies. - your leaders do not know how to recognize your limitations in the war effort: your nation will be an eternal joke in military historiography.
@randomitalian909 Жыл бұрын
not to forget the industrial capability, if you look at graphs of ww2 countries industry compared its actually not even close for Italy
@Eliel-Lin Жыл бұрын
The tech wasnt even that bad. The problem was that the good stuff wasnt being produced and couldnt make any significant impact.
@beans00001 Жыл бұрын
early war france is also a good example
@mrcat5508 Жыл бұрын
@@beans00001no it’s not?
@mrcat5508 Жыл бұрын
@@beans00001they just got surprised, and they didn’t use their tanks correctly.
@chartreux1532 Жыл бұрын
As a German Historian from Munich focusing mainly on Contemporary History especially here in Central Europe including Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Hungary etc. For those into Italy in WW2, i just want to share an interesting Topic from the Italian Axis Forces in WW2 that deserves more Attention and is overlooked, most likely because "Italy had bad Military" is huge Trope i assume. Read up on "Decima Flottiglia MAS" - basically Italian Axis Navy Seals on a Flotilla during WW2 - who have done some of the craziest but still succesful Special Ops during WW2. I only came across recently myself via German Archives and the Fact that apparently those Italian Axis Navy Seals were asked by the Germans to train their Navy Special Forces. So i went "Italians teaching Germans?! In WW2?!" Kinda shows you how powerful bad Stereotypes are, especially regarding the different Military & Branches in WW2. Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@VinnyUnion Жыл бұрын
Lange Rede kurzer Sinn.
@alexzero3736 Жыл бұрын
I know Italian fleet was big... But it ultimately failed in Battles around Malta and around Tarrent (Calabria).
@VinnyUnion Жыл бұрын
@@alexzero3736 that's not true, it destroyed the English fleet unanimously and viciously. It was the king of the Mediterranean seas. Rising with the SPQR flag!
@foxtrotcharlie161911 ай бұрын
The captured elements taken prisoners by the Allies also collaborated with allied special forces towards the second half of the war. They operated in a unit named “Mariassalto”.
@Enrico_37411 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying the real facts.. i also see everytime people who say that italy betrayed germany but these people don't know that there were 2 italy in 1943.. Traitor Italy was the kingdom of Italy led by the cowardly king Victor Emmanuel 3 who as soon as he declared war on Germany ran away out of fear. Instead no one knows the loyal italy ruled by Mussolini.. the RSI( Repubblica Sociale Italiana) who was loyal to germany till the end and also no one knows those 2 italy were in a bloodly civil war during 1943-1945... The winners write history..
@jeffreybezong4121 Жыл бұрын
Prayers for any Italian guy who had to crew the CV/L3 Edit: shall all those who fought the great comment war down below rest in peace
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
it was nicknamed "the coffin" not by chance...
@theducknamednewepicla9507 Жыл бұрын
Mine aswell 😢
@da_Sizzle Жыл бұрын
Don't pray for nazis.
@Fui921 Жыл бұрын
@@da_Sizzle They werent nazis, they were fascists or werent even fascists
@andylopez6145 Жыл бұрын
L3 is epic
@patrickhaeusler Жыл бұрын
I still think it might be interesting to discuss WWII from the pretty obscure Latin American perspective. Other interesting perspectives on historical events might also be "Crusades from the Muslim perspective", "WWI from the Ottoman perspective" or "Cold War from the Soviet perspective".
@BitácoraHistórica Жыл бұрын
The Latin American perspective is a great idea! Lets not forget that actually two nations from Latin América, Brasil and México, sent troops to battle; México sent an air squad to fight in the pacific along US Army, and Brasil sent three infantry divitions to fight along the allies in the landing in Italy. On the other hand Mexico provide an important support in matter of economy, comerce, work force to the United States... And also we have Argentina and the controversy about the relationship with Germany.
@ryanwagner656 Жыл бұрын
moon landing from the martians perspective @Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1
@Createrz201511 ай бұрын
I support this! With how little Latin America is talked about in the context of ww2 I really want to know what they did during those times and why as well as what happened to the governments of those countries once the war was over.
@doctorstrange556611 ай бұрын
The video would last roughly 15 minutes
@kidsrock9111 ай бұрын
Ww1 from the ottoman perspective would be cool, like the disastrous Gallipoli campaign or the Arab Revolt
@jeffe9842 Жыл бұрын
I was glued to this video. It was so well done and so interesting. Incidentally, my dad was part of Patton's Seventh Army and was in the third wave in the invasion of Sicily on July 10, 1943.
@thecrazydestructoniz11 ай бұрын
thank you for the war crimes bro
@WildNorthWestern15 күн бұрын
@@thecrazydestructoniz bro he did nothing lol. Yall are nut jobs.
@mirkonavarra15174 күн бұрын
this video overlook all the British defeated in WW2. it is just inaccurate
@GoobermannBillingtonhead Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the meme references and comedy griffin puts in these vids. its such a shame YouYube hates on such golden content like this, but absolutely even allows elsagate to exist on the platform. i wish you only the best, Griffin.
@ScootsMcPoot9 ай бұрын
Why does youtube hate this? And how? This channel has 2.3 million subs and an average of 400k views on videos. How is it hating? It's not as popular sure, it's ww2 videos. It's niche
@theravingtimes9582 Жыл бұрын
Noticed at 1:01:57 during the Polish's artillery attack, a certain Iranian bear is visible with the human soldiers
@lucamckenn59329 ай бұрын
His name was wojtek the bear. A cub that a platoon found an befriended.
@thepoleontheroad8 ай бұрын
So awesome of AH to do a detailed research like that.
@RickyJC8 ай бұрын
41:10 great little touch with Mussolini losing in chess with the fool’s mate: a 2-move checkmate that only someone who doesn’t know how to play chess end up in that position.
@linzhizhou2332 Жыл бұрын
Italy in real life: 🥲🥲🥲 Italy In hoi 4 Getting Dalmatia, Yugoslavia for free, defeating france with paratroopers and doing sealion + restoring roman empire in less than a year without any difficulty: 🗿🗿🗿
@alexzero3736 Жыл бұрын
In HOI 4 you can do anything with paratroopers😂 . AI is just too stupid to resist. Also France in HOI 4 is greatly underpowered, its starting industry is worse than Italian one.
@bulbulder2zvezdara Жыл бұрын
So true tho 💀💀💀
@socire7211 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736they have to do that or else AI Germany will lose
@alexzero373611 ай бұрын
@@socire72 improve AI? No... Impossible...
@socire7211 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736 Well, if they did that, new players would lose as well…
@In_Our_Timeline Жыл бұрын
Some People May find this Interesting: The Eighth Army's forces advanced north-northeast toward Venice and Trieste on the same day that the Italian Partisans' Committee of Liberation declared a general uprising and crossed the Po on the right flank. Divisions of the US Fifth Army advanced northward toward Austria and northwest toward Milan. The German-Italian Army of Liguria was caught off guard by the Brazilian division's quick advance towards Turin, which led to its collapse.
@usuariogenerico2 Жыл бұрын
🇧🇷🇧🇷 Brazil mentioned 🇧🇷🇧🇷 Tivemos que ir pra Itália ajudar a resolver essa baguncinha por causa de uns otários de camisas pretas e camisas marrons
@tigerland432811 ай бұрын
Was the Brazilian Division part of the British eighth army or the US fifth Army ?
@LuizDamas-v5z6 ай бұрын
@@tigerland4328sou brasileiro e estávamos comandados pelo gen Clark através de nosso Marechal Mascarenhas de Moraes integrados ao quinto exército dos EUA porem tinha certa autonomia e se aproveitaram para capturar uma divisão nazista que fugia de volta pra Alemanha
@andreavarp135711 ай бұрын
A great book to read about the italian expeditionary force in Russia is "The sergeant in the snow" it talks about the experience of an Italian mountaneer during the retreat in the Don river encirclement.
@michealohaodha935111 ай бұрын
Rigoni-Stern is a great writer....simple yet natural.
@friedrichjaeger3674 ай бұрын
My great uncle fought during the soviet campaign and told me horro stories about the war, when they retreated and found their country in a state of civil war, he ordered his soldier to burn their uniforms, scatter and wished them good luck
@lucaorlandi28928 күн бұрын
Great book can you suggest others ?
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem587911 ай бұрын
Fun fact Marinos Mitralexis during the invasion of Greece he managed to shoot down two Italian planes we he run out of ammunition, skillfully crashing into them, and then safely landing his own aircraft. Afterward, he reportedly arrested the Italian pilots using his service pistol. Mitralexis's bravery and resourcefulness became a symbol of Greek resistance during the war.
@Rodrick-rx4hd10 ай бұрын
SOUNDS REAL
@axelscharf241510 ай бұрын
Sure . That makes totally sense .
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem587910 ай бұрын
@@Rodrick-rx4hd It is real you can verify this by your self do some research this isn't some war time propaganda or a legend
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem587910 ай бұрын
@@axelscharf2415 Do you research Greeks had limited aircrafts and ammunition and they used it carefully. there is a docent of similar incidents during the battle of Greece
@axelscharf241510 ай бұрын
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 just because somebody in greece told a story that doesn't make it thru . The hole story is just unbelievable. The guy rammed two Italian planes , those two planes crashed somewhere. But the Greek pilot landed safely and arrested the Italian Pilots with his revolver . How did he get immediately to the crash sides . What kinda planes the Italians fly ? I'm sorry but most war stories like this just stink like nationalism . Look at us we are much better warriors etc . No offense my greek brother .
@Jayjay-qe6um Жыл бұрын
"War is to man what maternity is to a woman. From philosophical and doctrinal viewpoint, I do not believe in perpetual peace." -- Benito Mussolini
@Death_444410 ай бұрын
Based.
@maroccomo11 ай бұрын
My grandmother was living in Northern Italy during WW2 and tells the story of her older brothers, cousins, and uncles that would hide in the mountains and shoot down at Natzi soldiers after school.
@lorenzo440811 ай бұрын
I famosi parmigiani
@J4XJ3T Жыл бұрын
This is the guide to how to do a full historical Italy in hoi4
@hanslada6911 ай бұрын
XD
@TheSkyGuy779 ай бұрын
Aka, the clown car of western Europe 😂
@tomw38867 ай бұрын
Was doing a Germany Ironman game and my dumbass thought initiating an afrika campaign would be a good idea. Lost nearly 1.5 space marine armies. Due to Italy not garrisoning the ports behind the rapid pushes we were making. I managed to pull out half an army back to Sicily but it was an utter failure. Italy like real life also got beat up my Greece so I helped them took Crete thought the continent was secured so I go to fight the USSR. And we push the Russians to Moscow then the invasion of early DDay happens forcing myself to divert forces both to the Gustav line and both the west wall and the Rhine river doing minimal fighting in France. I don't know if it's gonna be possible to comeback at this point. I have only 1.6mil men in the field. 0 reserve manpower and the game won't let me go past extensive conscription
@arts682111 ай бұрын
Almost 200k views as of now and only 8k likes…. You guys deserve so much more credit than given, thank you for the passion you and your team put into these videos!
@thomasc.3832 Жыл бұрын
Good video but noticed a mistake, Mussolini's puppet state was the "Italian Social Republic" not the "Italian Socialist Republic", they are very different things
@natem15798 ай бұрын
The name is incorrect in the video, yes, but the Nazis had already proven to have a unique definition of the word "Socialist", to say the least; so the difference would be nonexistent in this situation.
@Paciat8 ай бұрын
@@natem1579 Everyone has the same definition of the word "Socialist". Its a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by a "workers government".(there is not a single word about equality or women rights there) Hitlers government fits the definition. Saying national socialists are not socialists is ignoring the definition of socialism and creating your own.
@yitzhaktolentino42148 ай бұрын
@@Paciat Hitler is not and was not a “socialist” he abused the term to obtain a wider appeal. Hitler is a Nazi, nothing more and nothing less. I’d recommend watching Three Arrows or a video that delves into Nazi politics and beliefs.
@Krishna-pt3yu7 ай бұрын
@@Paciat I like your clearity in assessment. Thank you
@bed33537 ай бұрын
@@Paciat National socialist economics did not distribute the means of production to the workers, but rather took advantage of the previous economic system. Yes, they engaged in welfare, but workers had no representation, unions nationalized and leaders state appointed, and the existing structures of most industries remained unchanged. Those that were appropriated by the government were for the war effort, but much of the leadership remained in place.
@usuariogenerico2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH FOR THIS I've been waiting for this for so long!!!! There aren't many videos covering Italy in WW2 although it was a major player
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
can't even understand Italian national identity
@leosalemii Жыл бұрын
@@FlagAnthem you can't because it's feeble and not everyone has it lol
@alessandroiorio6248 Жыл бұрын
Peccato sia pieno di errori e la solita narrativa fuorviante tipica di questo e di altri canali. Qualche esempio a caso dai primi minuti: la Germania che manda armi all'Italia invece che all'Etiopia, la guerra d'Etiopia che sembra un'epopea di anni risolta solo col gas (invece durò 7 mesi e il gas fu poco e non risolutivo) , e i numeri lievitati di produzione di aerei/carri dell'Italia comparati all'Asse (magari avessimo prodotto il 25% del totale, sai che rasponi si sarebbero fatti gli alti comandi). Sarebbe bello veder meno gente leccare il c*lo a questi canali che fanno ricerca con sciatteria.
@leosalemii11 ай бұрын
@@alessandroiorio6248 non sono perfetti, ma se si viene con l'idea che siano divinità scese in terra... ovviamente loro hanno la colpa per la disinformazione
@alessandroiorio624811 ай бұрын
@@leosalemii Lungi da me pensare agli youtuber come divinità. La perfezione non esiste ma la ricerca della perfezione dovrebbe essere al primo posto nel creare video educativi se sei un canale con 2 milioni e rotti di iscritti i cui video hanno molto spesso milioni di visualizzazioni; hai il dovere morale verso chi ti ascolta e la comunità di ridurre la disinformazione, perché si sa benissimo come a volte certi miti e falsità diventino storia
@thelitterbug7624 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha the use of the Lion King reference (A Disney cartoon) with the the ‘you know who’ is hilarious on so many layers
@cohengamertv65486 ай бұрын
I mean, the hyenas did Goose step march during the song “Be Prepared”
@Dornana11 ай бұрын
Reminder that the BEF(Brazilian Expeditionary Force) fought extremely well at mount casino in montanous snow terrain depiste brazilians not being used to low temperatures in general. We also had a reputation of being generous and sharing most of our food with italian civilians. And, we also captured an entire german divison at the end of the campaign!
@tetraxis301110 ай бұрын
Brazil was the only Latin American country to provide direct ground troops. Mexicos constitution forbids deployment of combat units outside Mexican territory, so we had to conform to send a lot of volunteers to the US and Having the Mexican expeditionary Airforce operate under the greater US command structure.
@LiamMoore-i7h10 ай бұрын
@@tetraxis3011 Based Mexicans and Brazilians.
@tetraxis301110 ай бұрын
@@LiamMoore-i7h From Mexico, Thanks man.
@Lordboy-w5p2 ай бұрын
Especially at Manila and lizon
@LegioXXI2 ай бұрын
"we" So you were a part of this force? Sorry, i know its patriotism, but it's still funny how people talk with the word "we" when they actually mean "our ancestors". "We" did absolutely nothing in WW2, unless ofc you really are some 90+ years old veteran.
@Hadfield15 Жыл бұрын
Think we might see WWII from the Canadian perspective sometime? I know we had D-Day from the Canadian POV, but I’d like to see what the rest of the war was like from their perspective
@MRMixedup Жыл бұрын
Just for a bit more info, at the peak of the b0mb!ngs, Malta was the most bombed place on earth despite being smaller then NYC, Il Duce overestimated Malta's defensive capabilities which was one of the reasons a land invasion never took place. The local population went through alot but thanks to our determination and Italy's faliure to stop operation pedestal (which brought crucial supplies to Malta) the islands never surrendered. Malta also played a crucial role in operation Husky as many British, American and allied troops stopped in Malta in preparation of the invasion. Thank you Armchair historian for featuring Malta although not too deeply (understandable in the greater context), i feel we have a very underrated history.
@emanueleabrami8355 Жыл бұрын
Very small detail: at minute 14 it’s cassa DA morto, non DI morto. So it is basically coffin. I love how you use Italian in the video THANK YOU very much!
@Unfassbarer Жыл бұрын
Danke!
@SteveGamesFTW4 ай бұрын
25:00 the transition from the ww2 greek soldier to an ancient greek soldier (spartan I assume) was so cool
@AbrahamLincoln-p16 Жыл бұрын
If I had a penny for every time Italy succeeded to reform the Roman Empire after it’s collapse. I’ll be broke
@somehistorynerd Жыл бұрын
They only tried… twice? Italy has only existed since the 1860’s.
@yoyonono51497 Жыл бұрын
@@somehistorynerdI think he’s talking about all the previous states before Italy like the Papal States for example
@jimc.goodfellas Жыл бұрын
Yeah you be broke too
@greatgrungustwo904 Жыл бұрын
If they succeeded you would still be broke, but less broke
@PremiumToad Жыл бұрын
your already broke tho
@Bunjamin27 Жыл бұрын
Love the long format youtube vids you all do.
@nicholasmontgomery8594 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised there wasn't any mention of the mafia's involvement. Italian historians cite that Italy never really had full logistical control over Sicily due to all the local Dons in the region requiring officers and politicians to "wet their beaks" There was also the general resentment of authority of Italy in general. It was said that Mussolini ordered that no wall in Sicily could be higher than the waist given how frequent men with luparas (short barreled hunting shotguns) would hide behind them and blast Italian troops.
@alexacosta4751 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos in the eyes of other countries. Hope you do it for every major country in WW2 🙌
@Jestin6124 ай бұрын
3:37 commercial skip
@Simeon151011 ай бұрын
1:01:57 Wojtek the bear ❤️
@Numba00311 ай бұрын
Thank you for another excellent long form documentary. I love learning more about history through these. For the last several years, this channel and others have taught me a ton. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
@troidva Жыл бұрын
One criminally under-reported aspect of the Italian war effort was the courage and self-sacrifice of the merchant marine. Despite losing 25% of its entire merchant fleet at the outset of the war (interned or confiscated because Mussolini neglected to call home the ships before the start of of the war), Italy's brave civilian sailors managed to keep the Axis forces in North Africa at least marginally supplied up through March 1943 despite horrendous losses. At that point, Italy had only 26 large merchant ships left, including only three oil tankers
@giangargo66911 ай бұрын
thank you for the video, loved all the effort on trying to use some italian words to further immerse the viewer
@What-vr6lpАй бұрын
0:39 Did he really say "Parisian Gulf"? 😀
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Жыл бұрын
Just throwing out a 'thanks for your hard work Griff'. And I hope YT monetization gets friendlier in the future.
@andrewwilson6726 Жыл бұрын
We need a ww1 from the Italian perspective video.
@scotto2291 Жыл бұрын
There already is one
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
watch "Uomini Contro"
@andrewwilson6726 Жыл бұрын
@@scotto2291 no. There isn't.
@andrewwilson6726 Жыл бұрын
@@FlagAnthem alright!
@scotto2291 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewwilson6726 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4TSapx4jtOUe6ssi=uMUq8X7lhN0JLcJN It's not explicitly titled WW1 from Italy's perspective but that's what it is.
@hendriktonisson2915 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how WW2 would've been different if Italy stayed neutral like Spain? With a neutral Italy would the Western allies have been able to launch a massive offensive from the Balkans into Eastern Europe and not let the Soviets to occupy Eastern European countries?
@DMS-pq8 Жыл бұрын
It was in North Africa that the allies especially the U.S. learned to fight a modern war and what commanders were capable of fighting that kind of war, Without that experience any invasion of Europe probably is a disaster
@alexzero3736 Жыл бұрын
Even if Italy stays neutral, Mussolini would do his thing in the Balkans like invading Albania, putting pressure on Yugoslavia and Greece... The guy was ambitious.
@Ibra2him Жыл бұрын
@@alexzero3736in that case, I wonder if Italy would be invaded by the Germans at some point for getting in the way of their interests
@hendriktonisson2915 Жыл бұрын
@@DMS-pq8 Considering the effects the Stalin's purges had on the Red Army I think the Western allies would've been as successful if not more successful than the Soviets.
@hendriktonisson2915 Жыл бұрын
@@alexzero3736 In real history Mussolini got away with invading Albania without getting into a war with the major powers but if he really wanted to avoid conflict with Britain and it's allies I doubt he would risk invading Yugoslavia or Greece given how the Western allies reacted to the German invasion of Poland. The most Mussolini probably would've done is to send volunteer army to fight against the Soviet Union similarly to what Franco's Spain did.
@SimoNemo711 ай бұрын
This vid is super well made. As an Italian myself it’s quite fascinating to see some similarities from the past still present today. Saddens me though each time I come visit my family here how the situation worsens in Italy. No work, crummy economy and not enough repopulation. I’d live here if it wasn’t so hard to make a living.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 Жыл бұрын
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage video about Mossolini ambitious for larger Italian empire
@annoyedbrox4851 Жыл бұрын
the best history videos, as always, greatly appreciated
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
0:11 HELL NO! You could not get it more wrong! Italy was a nation BEFORE unification and not the other way around. The Risorgimento was a fresh memory and the country identity got out from WW1 stronger than before. people were MAD for failing to unite with the communities on the other side of Adriatic (and Tunisia), the fascism movement could not have gained consent without the "mutilated victory" slogan. The Royal family was LOVED, even more at the south (and this was confirmed at 1946 referendum). Campanilism was (and still) is strong, but nobody would have argued their italianess, not even the Sardinians (only the slovens and south tyroleans, and they SUFFERED under Mussolini) Regionalist movements are way more recent than you may think Finally there was a cult of Rome rooted to Italian culture (and keep in mind that mass scolarization was kicking in) that is unimaginable today, "Rome sucks" is a 1990s slogan who would have not even be conceivable in the 30s. If you wanted to be subversive you had to draw a sickle and hammer (and expect a visit by the blackshirts). Dude, 10s in the video -and you clearly failed to go beyond stereotypes and prejudices- 😅 PS: on a fresher thought, this is one hard to die misconceptions italians themselves fall for, yet I deeply suggest taking some time to understand Italian Unification (Lucy Riall may be a start) beyond the ready to consume oversimplification stuff you get around. Again, fascism could have not arisen without the fertile soil of shared national frustration.
@VladRadu-tq1pg Жыл бұрын
found the biassed italian capper
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
@@VladRadu-tq1pg dì nìn Learn history from books, not memes
@KingJonasHD Жыл бұрын
I'm so tired of people calling italian Fascism and german National Socialism both Fascist. They're not. Fascism and Nazism both developed roughly around the same time, only slightly influencing each other at various times. The DAP became a party in 1919, while Fascism was still just a movement in italy. When it became the NSDAP with A.H. in 1920, Fascism was still only a movement in italy. The PNF only became a party in 1921, when the NSDAP was already long established. The Nazis did take some inspiration from the Fascists durning their early years, mainly in appearance, not so much in ideology. During the late 30s, italian Fascism did adopt some anti-semitism from Nazism, although it was only religious, not racial. The main difference between the two is that Fascism believes in national identity, while Nazism believes in race. Race, if it matters at all, is just of secondary importance for Fascism. What matters most is national identity, unlike Nazism, where race is the only measurement. Other differences include: - Nazism believes in the aryan race, Fascism does not - Nazism inherently believes in racial anti-semitism, Fascism does not. If it's anti-semitic, it's for religious or cultural reasons - Nazism believes in social-darwinism, Fascism does not - Nazism believes in corporate-socialism, Fascism believes in a mix of corporatism and syndicalism, with a tendency to one or the other depending on what kind of Fascism we're talking about A more proper category to put these two in would be Third-Positionism, or National Collectivism.
@tefky7964 Жыл бұрын
3 of your differences are still based around the same "Germans believed in superiority of race, Italians in superiority of culture", so it counts as one and about economics they had their differences, but not really that big and it seems quite weird to call nazi Germany corporate-socialists.
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
same sh1t different assh0le
@KingJonasHD Жыл бұрын
@@tefky7964 They‘re similar, but neither the same nor a modified version of the other. They‘re two different third-positionist/ national collectivist ideologies. If we go by the "oh they‘re similar enough" path, why do we call them both Fascism instead of Nazism, since Nazism manifested as a proper ideology before Fascism did? Roughly about a year. Why do we use Fascism as the parent word for Italian fascism and German national socialism? It makes no sense. What makes sense is to call them third-positionist/ national collectivist, since they both believe revolutionary nationalism, with a collectivist economy. Also about that corporate-socialism, I mean corporate not as in big business, but as in cooperation between classes.
@tefky7964 Жыл бұрын
@@KingJonasHD We call them both fascist, because it is quite vaguely defined and as such both regimes fulfil it, while nazism is more specific. Also I know what is corporatism, which doesn´t change that call nazis corporate-socialists is really weird.
@KingJonasHD Жыл бұрын
@@tefky7964 it's not vaguely defined, Giovanni Gentile and Benito Mussolini defined it. What a lot of historians did was to dump everything that resembles Fascism in the Fascist category and yes, then you don't have a clear definition anymore. If everything right-wing authoritarian is Fascist, nothing is.
@O_Mostr Жыл бұрын
Italy was not the "soft underbelly of Europe" as Churchill described it as. Infact, the Italian Social Republic with help from the Germans lasted up until the fall of Germany, retaining land from Bologna and up.
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
then why Italy surrendered in 43?
@samuelstephen8147 Жыл бұрын
Italy's war wasn’t over with the surrender. After that Italy was thrown into a civil war with the Royal government against the German-backed Italian Social Republic under Mussolini and that lasted until 1945.@@FlagAnthem
@leosalemii Жыл бұрын
Because the king thought it best to just lay down arms in 1943 - while mussolini fled north and got arrested. the fascists went on fighting vs the allies and they kept being a thorn in their side until war's end @FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
@@leosalemiiand WHAT make him think so?
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
@@samuelstephen8147 I know. Just focus more on the "surrendered" part
@dingaling487 Жыл бұрын
1:56 what is the source for this? Iirc the Germans sent the Ethiopians planes and munitions since at the time Italy was against the Anchluss and was a pressure point in the Stressa Front so Germany wanted to prolong the war as long as possible. Nicolle doesn't say anything about arms shipments to Italy though it does mention anti tank gun sales by Germany to Ethiopia and a German equipped Ethiopian division.
@vincentwaldner8061 Жыл бұрын
Great content once again, a pretty good summary I think!
@crabbing-ws6hf Жыл бұрын
YEEEEESSSS! Sorry, I get way too excited whenever you upload a long ww2 video, especially the perspective serie lol.
@breeve1211 ай бұрын
That was an amazing experience! Your contest is some of the best available.
@ryleeculla5570 Жыл бұрын
The Italians weren’t expecting to go on the offensive especially out of Europe and anyways they were poorly equipped for such a aggressive goal that Mussolini pictured during ww1 they were on the defensive and many people thought the same thing will happen again and guess what they failed to realize that this wasn’t a war of attrition and bleeding your enemy dry oh no it was lightning warfare although I’m guessing I might be wrong cause I know someone going to be pointing something out
@danielelanza2441 Жыл бұрын
To clarify Italy was almost always in the offensive (13 major offensive battles against 3 Austro-Hungarian/German ones) in WWI. For I agree woth you yes, Italian military was still convinced on a trench warfare ww2 (similarly as Poland, France and Great Britain too in 1939) but failed to evolve its strategy due of what we have seen in this video
@jameswalker314411 ай бұрын
You said that Germany supported the Italians with weapons, but in reality it was Ethiopia they gave guns to in order to weaken Italy as they were seen as rivals in the mid-early 30s
@sergiopiparo4084 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather served in the Italian army forces he started in East Africa and then transferred to Libya in 1943 he was captured by the British after the fall of fascism he returned home
@Enrico_37411 ай бұрын
my great uncle was in the Italian army during World War II. he participated in the Barbarossa operation and was sent to support the German allies together with the Romanian and Finnish soldiers during the invasion of the Soviet Union. He miraculously managed to survive and said that he had to return to his home in Sicily mainly on foot as the vehicles were either destroyed or out of gas. he returned to Sicily and eventually died in 1943 during the invasion of Sicily.. he died defending his homeland from the American enemy...
@sergiopiparo408411 ай бұрын
@@Enrico_374 my grandfather is also from Sicily he was born in Modica what part of Sicily is your uncle from?
@Enrico_37411 ай бұрын
@@sergiopiparo4084 He was from Partinico( province of Palermo)
@tigerland432811 ай бұрын
My grandfather fought in north Africa,Italy and in north west Europe. He was a British paratrooper.
@ChrisSmith7462711 ай бұрын
My grandmother was obviously not fighting but she was a child living in Calabria. All she remembers is seeing Allied planes flying over her paese
@auraguard02129 ай бұрын
Italy was like a game released early.
@sunlightpictures836711 ай бұрын
Great episode! Your team put in a lot of work on this one.
@LuKaZz42010 ай бұрын
Damn my great great grandpa was in Operation Barbarossa, spent from 1941 to 1946, one year after the war had ended, as a P.O.W. In Siberia. My great great uncle was taken prisoner at El Alamein and my grandma’s house was bombed by the R.A.F. However she grew up to be a huge Britain fan, when I graduated uni in London, I brought my grandma to see Buckingham Palace, she was “These should have been our friends”. She even crossed herself (like in Church) in front of the Queen Guards and said in Italian “I forgive you for the house”. She passed last year. Maybe one day humans will stop war…but seeing the current events, not likely
@quentinjohnson-ronald1266 Жыл бұрын
This video was great, can you make one from New Zealand's/Australia's perspective?
@build4timetfisakilometer Жыл бұрын
gotta like all ur vids btw good luck in your new journey!
@This-handle-isnt-available12311 ай бұрын
Eisenhower casually playing hoi4 scares me
@GenralWAV10 ай бұрын
The thought of mussolini and churchill play battleship just cracks me up 😂
@federicabui473927 күн бұрын
Hello, loved the video 😊 just a detail but “cassa di morto”, while literal translation means dead men box in Italian it’s a colloquial way to say “coffin”
@loganlove99868 ай бұрын
@TheArmchairHistorian 56:46 to 57:40 Could you tell me what the name of this soundtrack is?? Or if there is anywhere I can listen to this?? Cause it’s just . . . So beautiful to listen to, I just want to loop it so much 😅😌 Much appreciated, and great content. Have a good day!!
@antlionworkerfan2007 Жыл бұрын
Was just binging your videos and just so happened that you released a new video today, what luck!
@riccardosilvestrini930511 ай бұрын
People who are making the same jokes about Italy we have been hearing for years now in the comments, probably will never be mature enough to even understand the complexity of the Italian situation prior and during ww2. They probably didn't even watch the whole video. Aside from that, props to the armchairhistorian, it was a very all-round and insightful video
@maxq- Жыл бұрын
Excellent work.
@Pologram6 ай бұрын
“Deeply unpopular” Metaxas regime? I literally cannot remember (or see-through the videos) any other Greek Prime Minister walking in the streets without armed security.
@stevemcgee63944 күн бұрын
56:00 love the Austin Powers reference!
@biobomb9311 ай бұрын
Isolationism is what really destroyed italy: i've read many books with interviews of italian soldiers and their complaints always started with basic things like boots because due to autarchy they had to use bad materials to craft them. It is a really interesting example of economic sanctions succeding in crippling a nation war effort.
@beaniemiller686111 ай бұрын
My grandfather was part of the U.S forces in Operation Husky. Rest in peace Ben
@cesarsantiago._.4879 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't waiting this video, but I needed it so much
@ChristineCAlb111 ай бұрын
Italy had a monarchy??? I always learn something new from your videos. :) Really hope KZbin doesn’t cancel you.
@SeanHH1986 Жыл бұрын
random connection: growing up on long island in ny, the ruins of king zog's estate from when he was in exile were about 30-45 mins away
@josephpercente837711 ай бұрын
The majority of the Italian merchant fleet was overseas. It could have been recalled in time to be of use, but it wasn't. It was interred or confiscated.
@thecrazydestructoniz11 ай бұрын
Really good documentary,should’ve mentioned the axis counterattack at gela though
@martinbast5250 Жыл бұрын
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO SINCE DAY 1
@outofturn33111 ай бұрын
5:30 "pacify" 😢😂, 9:30 as a hyena i was hugely offended
@davidschaftenaar6530 Жыл бұрын
30:00 ... Wait a minute... What's _he_ doing at the Casablanca Conference?? 😂
@darylcheshire161810 ай бұрын
With the Itallians surrendering in droves, there was a famous Bluey and Curley cartoon where Bluey and Curley were guarding rows and rows of Italian prisoners as far as the eye can see and the caption was something like this: “Luigi, if you don’t stop dragging my rifle in the sand, I won’t let you carry it”. My father knew someone who was taking a leak when two Italian soldiers showed up and his rifle was metres away, but the Italians were surrendering.
@SamAllar2 ай бұрын
Fantasy Sci-Fi whino.
@frankieslounge8 ай бұрын
Sicilian here: - while the literal translation is correct, "cassa da morto" (not "di morto") is just slang for "coffin" - it's pronounced "Catània" - it's pronounced "òrdine" - it's pronounced "Cassìbile" - the Carabinieri were and still are a gendarmerie, not just a police force Other than that, thank you for doing your best not to slaughter Italian pronunciation
@ChrisSmith74627 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: thanks to the American soldiers mixing with locals, the Carbonara recipe was invented!
@sethmeyer24439 ай бұрын
My grandfather fought at Monte Cassino while my grandmom was in NY giving birth to my dad. 80 years ago this month.
@koala-wala11 ай бұрын
Surprised how there's no mention of Paddy Mayne's SAS in this video.. Especially since the story at 37:50 really sounds like "SAS: Forged In Hell" 's encounter in the same city, with the same PIAT weapons used to kill the same kind of tanks.. Idunno, maybe I'm just dumb. .p.
@flashgordon6670 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video thank you Sir Griffin! Btw, that ain’t a real pipe.
@syedwakaralam763111 ай бұрын
Bravo Bravo !! Armchairhistorian deserves a highest recognition for their dedication . Towards reviving history of Second World War in a spectacular way . We thank very much to Mr. Griffin Johnson and his team. Please keep up the good work. We look forward for more history about Second World War.
@spaghettitime11248 ай бұрын
43:02 Major correction here. It's Italian SOCIAL Republic, not Socialist. A difference of only 3 letters but that makes a very very big change in what kind of government we're talking about.
@Random_person-di9um6 ай бұрын
36:04 that slap was personal 😭😭
@tylenol35723 ай бұрын
lion hitler cant hurt you he isnt real... 9:40
@hermenefred4 ай бұрын
Panzer Corps 2 - Operation Husky: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inisqqapdtdqnJY&t and Salerno: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipixc4aYotucgK8&t
@Mynameshere1310 Жыл бұрын
At 1:00:00 literally company of heroes 3 but on hardest setting, jesus its attacks after attacks after attacks!
@beigegaming990511 ай бұрын
Hey Griffin! Been watching ya for years! You should do a video over cover-ups the American government such as the USS Liberty Incident! Others wrapped in there with it.
@bubbles10447 ай бұрын
it is really odd that you covered the invasion of Italy from the allied perspective considering the whole point of the video was that it would be from the Italian perspective...
@soppierfob37207 ай бұрын
I agree i was hoping for him to explain the invasion from the italian perspective
@lokibau6 ай бұрын
@@soppierfob3720 i know subtitles with automated translations are crap, but this documentary (focused on the social republic) is one of the best ever made from italian perspective, i think its absolutely worthy to see, also for its 70's vibes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqDIdI2he5l7fNk
@rsookchand919 Жыл бұрын
To any KZbin executive in the comments: we need more channels like this
@kedafu Жыл бұрын
Outstanding as usual. Thumbs up
@tyleracey31419 ай бұрын
101:57. Okay I know my history but to my knowledge, I believe that’s a bear behind a soldier. That must be Wojtek from the Polish 22nd Artillery Supply Company. He carried crates of ammunition meant for four soldiers at the Battle of Monte Cassino. If I’m correct, that’s a very cool hidden detail
@erwinfrederickgalgo54113 ай бұрын
13:30 HEY MUSSOLINI, WORLD WAR ONE CALL, IT WANTED A SHITTY ARMOR DESIGN BACK!!!🤣🤣🤣
@RubberToeYT Жыл бұрын
Great documentary
@F15_C11 ай бұрын
1:01:32 oh that's where crosses grow, no soldier sleeps, and hell's 6 feet deep
@mrlodwick Жыл бұрын
You rock bro !
@djartyom924 Жыл бұрын
5:21 "do u feel like a hero yet?" - John Conrad
@srb98af8911 ай бұрын
That "Hearts of Iron" style of story telling is brilliant ;d
@lucaorlandi2893 ай бұрын
Italy did a big effort against giants like Usa and Soviet Union .Despite of all did also victories