Queen Buran, Astrologer in 9th Century Baghdad

[@JustinPlunkett7]

Would loooove to see another interview with Ali! Could be really cool to do an episode where you two deep dives into the persian / babylonian techniques like profections and fridaria and how they came to be, if there were any variations practiced then that aren't practiced now, etc!

[@lebanana3172]

this is one of the most important discussions youve hosted. Congratulations!

[@silver2zilver]

I wish they opened with how the Quran talks about the stars. I'm Guna time stamp when I hear it

[@koadirt4245]

Wow, Ali A Olomi's explanation of multicultural Hellenism and the problematic term of "Western" is music to my ears! (01:15:48​ Alexandria & 01:19:26​ Ethnicity and ancient sources) I've always taken issue with the term Western because many conflate the term with "Europe" when in fact a HUGE amount of Western culture and history has influence from Islamic, Middle Eastern, North African, and Indian cultures. He said it better than I ever could! So grateful for his wisdom!

[@oleavillaproject-renovatio6894]

Thank you Chris and Ali for making intellectual content so eloquently accessible. Love that astrology is a common thread that binds cultures all over the globe. Bring it on!

[@nicolejohnson311]

What a beautiful time to share this talk as Venus is mounted upon her chariot with the Sun, Moon, and Neptune in Pisces. Thank you so much for such great content! 💖💗

[@Hermesvenus09]

❤️

[@milaaquariosoulinc4994]

10:22 women aren’t lost in history, they’re silenced. 💥

[@HauntedCerebralAstrology]

WOW, what a mind-opening discussion, thank you for sharing! I love the story about the bird who upsets the initiation of Cairo to have Mars on the ascendant, and then they end up naming Cairo after Mars! Wild.

[@Hermesvenus09]

Brilliant guest and host! This talk is fascinating. Thank you gentlemen for concerning yourselves with ancient female astrologers and creating an excellent and highly informative discussion. I wish all the text at Alexandria weren't destoyed so we might know Hypatia's thoughts about astrology.

[@learntarotology4669]

Early to the party for once! Just want to say a quick thank you, Chris, for always sharing your knowledge. Sending positivity and gratitude to you and the gang (Leisa, Kelly, Austin, Sumo) through the electrons! I've said it once before, but reiterating that your podcast has really helped me level up my astrology game, refining my "Eagle" so that my "Lark" can soar!! So thank you from the bottom of my heart. 💖

[@annamassi7546]

Who is Sumo?

[@mvino7203]

Totally loved this discussion! Chris - your intellect, constant seeking and curiosity are binging so much to your followers and the global field of astrology. Wow. Thanks. 🙏🏼

[@thescopescoop]

I was waiting for this, yes! Thank you both so much for doing this academic approach to astrology and spreading this incredibly valuable knowledge to the world! I can't wait to read the article and more of Ali's work!

[@Umuma871]

Love this ♥️💯 It’s so great to hear and learn about a phenomenal female astrologer, especially as a woman studying Hellenistic astrology 🙌🏾 So...more please!!! Nga mihi (Thank you) Chris 😎🥰🙌🏾🙏

[@justjill4137]

kia ora Marie ... you appear to speak te reo, does that mean you are from Aotearoa (New Zealand) like myself? would be great to korero with you about Hellenistic astrology. you can find me on fb. Arohanui

[@Umuma871]

@@justjill4137 Kia Ora I am a native wahine toa from Aotearoa 😉 I’d love to korero with you about astrology etc, but sadly I’m not on fb. Not sure how else we can connect???? Arohanunui 🥰

[@petrasebastian8644]

Hey classmate, great to see you here...still have to find time to watch this one 😘

[@MarinaLaGinesta]

Amazing guest and master class ⭐️🌎🪐🪬. Thanks so much❤

[@pimlico3225]

This was so interesting I'm going to watch it a few times over, just because. Amazing, thank you both so much for this!

[@tosan3117]

I've already watched it twice in two days! It's addictive! There's no momentum of boredom or zooning out. I've shared with people who are not even into astrology and they loved it too! It's a good gateway to astrology for people who are interested in the history of that time period.

[@pimlico3225]

@@tosan3117 Completely agree with you, this episode was so engaging, I was riveted! Not my norm as I have the attention span of a goldfish these days, haha. This and the next episode (I think) "Explaining Astrology to Non-Astrologers" were so fun to watch! Have watched both twice so far.

[@amrit_]

Grateful for the diverse content. Thank you both 🙏🏽🧿🙏🏽

[@therealothilaodal]

I'm so happy to see Ali Olomi on this podcast. I absolutely love his insights! I'm only 1 minute in but already so excited! Thank you Chris for this!

[@thezodiacus]

I really enjoyed this episiode, full of history, curiosities and intriguing facts! Any thing about Abù-Ma'shar is welcome, and I really respect those that knows such extensive astrological knowladge. I will have to listen again soon!

[@malloryhennigar2904]

Amazing episode! Thanks Chris for producing such quality content with such incredible guests! The historical background for this episode was so detailed and really helped to get a picture of a place and time that is so overlooked in American history classrooms.

[@CatarinaAntunesYouTube]

what an amazing 3 hours of knowledge and history. Thank you for your work and generosity to share it with the public

[@teadale2693]

What a wonderfully articulate discussion.. One of my favourite.. that and the "fuck yeah" by Chris make this just a stellar (get it) video. Thanks! Denise

[@backinfive2286]

Again brilliant. Thank you so much for opening the world to us.

[@hinnyastrology]

This was absolutely fascinating!! Thank you so much!!

[@herkimerblue3772]

What a wonderful discussion! I think it's great that you include such a variety of interviews and conversations regarding astrology in your podcast. There are so many great tit bits of knowledge in this episode.

[@constancewallace9969]

🤩 Super interesting… loved it… thanks to you both… what a treat! 🙏🙏

[@niyaivanova1193]

This is my absolute favourite podcast so far! Thank you!

[@joarkell2325]

what a fascinating podcast (such an extensive exchange of knowledge).....thanks so much to both of you

[@carolconn631]

Great interview 😊 I learned so much! Thank you!

[@LaDeeDah]

Phenomenal content. So happy I found you

[@makingwaffles]

This is awesome!

[@walkergoff3127]

This was really great, thank you.

[@lindelrevell4807]

Fascinating. I watched twice.

[@maraudersmap2804]

So excited to listen to this! 😃

[@katerinegutierrezvillaverd5037]

Please public that article! Thank you for this inspiring life story and the history of astrology!!

[@mysticrosetarot888]

I'm currently watching this episode and curious if Ali A Olomi will touch base about the moon (lunar) mansion.

[@blessedbythebest6227]

How lovely to see you here !!

[@mysticrosetarot888]

@@blessedbythebest6227 One of my favorite channels on YT. Chris and his guests are highly exceptional! 👍 👍 Look forward to connecting with you once again. 😊

[@alexandruamp14]

it's very fascinating. Thank you for sharing your knowledge 😍😍

[@EvelineReinke]

I so very much appreciate tw guys with different cutural backgound talk so respectfully about women studying. I very much love this. could have been me, the women. But back in time women could be greater and even be of interest historically ( her story cally ).. and even stay so. today men often just dont want to talk about women in story and their achievements and ambitions or engagments.

[@Cmrntylr]

Good episode. A view I like to have with astrology is an image where different “races, cultures, etc are working together to find common ground searching for a truth as opposed to lightsaber fighting with god rods which often wins out. I’m a little over half way through the episode and really enjoying it, will complete it tomorrow. Just figured I’d say that and a current astrology humor moment was beginning to read hermeticum surprised it’s so obsessed with the 8th house knowing where this idealism ended up. Then going into lots/parts and starting tests casting them finding my 8th house is wildly populated by them. I then remembered I am in an 8th house profection and studying these subjects the way I am started in my last one. It started with this tone: “I’d only believe in, or trust a religion and/or ideology that’s old enough to not be contaminated by man(human)kind. Finding patterns dating further and further back before they’re taken over by the spirit they fought against. Sort of mentioned differently, as some point out Jesus Christ wasn’t white and I’ll joke “well, Jesus may not have been but no one said anything about the anti-Christ”. Sympathy for the guest, I like to avoid politics despite liking the topic, but my astrology dive delves into religion/spirituality in a hyper critical way. Good ideas don’t equal right, the 7 spheres as the 7 planet orbits makes no sense while it being houses 1-7 does. Plus they’re heavily focused on the 8th house which makes sense since the ouroboros is often depicted as an 8 where god is whole so 0. 8 is also described as a serpent (soul) shedding which is a another serpent symbolism. It seems heavily focused on the 7-8-9 sections of houses. I have no issues with that, it’s an interesting contrast to modern beliefs. It’s also interesting to have an anger with god as a starting point for the zodiac. It makes no sense it turned into what it became while also making its point by describing a specific house. Plus, the cosmology is wrong to begin with. lol. So.. things devolve quickly to hating astrology to competing beliefs/religions where it becomes what it’s fighting. I’m enjoying the hermeticum so far, I’m not sure if/when it shifts into calling for genocide. (Kidding) I just found it humorous I couldn’t recall my last 8th house profection and it smacked me in the face suddenly. I wouldn’t mind an episode like this with kind of a round table of different types of astrologers discussing what’s common and different in each system in a creative instead of debating way. Though, it turning into a western style bar fight may be good for going viral… Hellenistic astrology is winning so far. Adding: it is kinda sad that in modern times we think of Baghdad currently in terms of recent war, not the highly influential region that laid out so many important global foundations. I’m really enjoying these past podcasts.

[@A_cord_of_3strands]

This was everything! Thank you 🙏🏾

[@astroshahmaran]

Super interesting! Thanks very much and hope that it was the first episode of a new series hosted from you two incredibles

[@daaz102]

Million thanks, thanks for great show. Loved it!"

[@missmims09]

I totally love this episode!!!! 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍

[@juliegiles334]

FASCINATING I loved this.!

[@mrsdelacruz1860]

Humorous and enlightening talk! I just can’t get over the unread email messages 😉

[@maurospanthir6792]

such an knowledgable guest :D

[@bigeastrology]

This is amazing information & a great interview!! The Greeks got the info from ancient Kemet!!

[@NaturalizedAlienResident]

The story worth biopic!

[@Silvertestrun]

Ty

[@avvrirathsack5287]

Amazing and refreshing

[@silver2zilver]

Let's goooo

[@vigneshnagarajan3077]

Hi I am vignesh from India I teach Vedic astrology can I get any references in astrology where I can start thinking about original ideas in astrology my own ideas of the zodiac I need some direction

[@carlydanneal]

LOL I have an exalted Mars (& out of bounds) but it is on the ascendent so that made me laugh out loud! My partner has Mars on the dsc, but in Libra - I’ll take mine over his any day! 😊

[@herbzrgreen]

🙏🔥💚

[@setarehmariposa9571]

Is it not "Puran"

[@KP-ek9ok]

I have mars and Saturn in 5th and there has been a total loss of children

[@fangsofmay]

I'm sorry for your loss 🙏💗

[@KP-ek9ok]

@@fangsofmay thank you for your kind words 💕

[@fangsofmay]

@@KP-ek9ok 💖

[@maurospanthir6792]

Ancient Greek is not that different from modern Greek...

[@maurospanthir6792]

Ptolemy is a family name. The family of Ptolemys are ancestors of Alexander the great. Alexander the Great was Greek. Therefore, Ptolemy was Greek. Ptolemy's ethnicity is not up to debate.. :)

[@mlala1814]

To anyone who might be misled by the above troll: this comment is bullshit lol, trust what is being said in the video

[@shirleyshantel32]

it was like walking into a story that traversed time, so apt for the new moon in pisces, a time for us to transcend limits, boundaries across space and time. this was just magnificent! Thank you both so much!

[@natsumi2911]

This is fantastic! Ali is so knowledgeable. I felt like I was right there in Baghdad 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@kelseycaitlin]

Another great fucking show! Geez... I seriously can't belive how much information the two of you packed into this. Thank you both for taking the time to flesh out so much of the history 🤗🤓🤯😲

[@dilay2853]

I am only 1/3 through but have to say, this is so informative and entertaining to watch, amazing! Also very interesting to hear how some Arabic astrology terms are so similar or same in Turkish, which is my native language. I never knew the shared words between Arabic and Turkish extended to astrology too!

[@janetruh7476]

I would love a list of the people discussed in this video. I found some of them online, but struggle with the spellings. Maybe you could post a list at the end or on a website. Loved this! Just wonderful. Thank you.

[@ThePhilosonian]

I’ve rewatched this 3x already, please have Ali back🙏🏼

[@sairahola]

I would absolutely love if you shared more podcasts on Arabic astrology and interpretation of lots in the natal chart. Thank you for this fabulous episode!

[@ewadsworth]

This was so good🙏🏾🤑

[@consciousness5061]

Very powerful conversation 👏👌🙌❤😌✨

[@tosan3117]

Her original Persian name was Pouran; Buran is the Arabized form of it (there is no P sound in the Arabic language, so they used to convert P into B or F). Also the name Now-Bakht literally means "New-destiny", which is an interesting name for the lineage of astrologers. (it may not sound interesting in English, but given the Arabic word "taale'" was used for horoscope in the Perso-Arabic astrology, and taale' can also mean destiny, I think there could be some connections there.

[@rashahasan2284]

we use Bakhat (بخت) in Arabic as well and it means (fortune) and Tale' in Arabic means rising or ascendant

[@aminawadudTLI]

I LOVE you Ali.. EVERY TIME you speak I learn more and I appreciate MORE of knowledge creation and transformation. Thanks Chris. You two made me laugh with that "can I use those words here!!) ahahha

[@smsvsb]

Amazing podcast!! Love the focus on early women astrolgers and, especially, Prof. Olomi's emphasis on the pervasiveness of the eurocentric and Western traditions. Very needed in the field of Western astrology!!

[@ewadsworth]

⭐👏🏿🙌🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾👏🏿⭐

[@hervaro]

All I can say about this episode: SUPERB. A world long gone coming back to life? So wonderfull! Kudos to both of you!

[@Kait.1117]

So very interesting! Loved this so much.

[@ileanamendez7583]

Electrifying discussion on so many levels 🌟 Please bring Ali back for a dive deep into Persian, Islamic, Middle Eastern, North African, Astrology as it relates to Spanish and Latin translations etc. I could go on but you'll need to stop me. 🤩Thank You Chris and Ali.

[@queeniestephenson6805]

Thank you both so much..Loved it ! 🔥💜

[@Sarah-mh6vx]

Loved this so much! 💜 It’s so nice to hear different ways of the same knowledge woven together! Beautiful! I wonder how much is still taught or used today and with the shifts of culture!

[@morgannoneill8678]

Really Great talk! Very Very interesting! Loved it - thank you

[@lynnmcmvt1815]

Fantastic discussion, SO interesting! Thank you.

[@DebskiDebskiDebski]

Totally stunning episode.

[@elendil7]

Awesome. Thank you!

[@paulmagus2133]

Wonderful Talk

[@michaelwatts207]

Thx, guys.

[@EmmaSegasture]

Love this ❤️

[@psychesonic1]

Fascinating

[@haninastro]

Great episode.. One correction please for Ali.. Taseer means direction. Entiha'a means profection. Well done.

[@raznostradamus]

This is not chart of Ali Ibn Abitaleb.His sun was not in Taurus.was in Pisces.

[@tosan3117]

Great talk: Very informative and well-presented! Thanks to both of you! Couple of points: 1) I disagree with Ali that the reason not many books survived from the Sassanid period was that they mostly transmitted their knowledge orally instead of written work. The Sassanid were also hugely keen on scholarly works (most likely inspired from the Zoroastrian principal of holding Wisdom above all else, even the highest deity in Zoroastrianism is literally called "Lord of Wisdom", Ahura Mazda). As Ali mentioned, Sassanians had established and commissioned the learning centre of Gondi-Shapour in which 1000s of books were written, translated, and collected). If anything, many scholars argue the insatiable desire to produce books and knowledge during the Islamic Golden Age was inherited from the Sassanian tradition. The reason that unfortunately not many Middle Persian texts survived was because upon the conquest of the Sassanid Empire by the second Muslim Qalif, Omar ibn Khattab, many books were burnt by the early Islamic conquers. Later on, the Mongols ensured to burn anything. The Mongols even lit the bathhouses by books. There were so many books that for weeks they could warm the bathhouses!!!! 2) The ancient city of Hegmatana (modern day city of Hamadan in today Western Iran) also has a circular/Zodiacal shape very similar to Baghdad which suggests to me, it could have also built via electional astrology. 3) It's been said (and I believe it to be true) that when Alexander conquered the Achaemenid Empire, he stole the early version of Avesta (the sacred book of Zoroastrianism). That book was written with gold on cow skin, and it included all the knowledge of the time including astrology, as well as medicine, mathematics, philosophy, etc. That version of Avesta was not just a scared text but a complete encyclopedia of the time. He took the book back to Greece, and plagiarized the knowledge it had. I highly suspect the Greek astrology was created based on that source.

[@labonyoutube5010]

This an amazing episode thanks Chris he is a very good historian and astrologer please invite him again 💐

[@cowsandsows]

This was amazing. Fascinating talk and information. Thank you!

[@izaskunzabala]

The conjunction of two great minds!!!! Thank you for this incredible episode 🙌🏼✨

[@heathergoodman888]

What fabulous content. Loving this episode!

[@danielleb4791]

❤👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤

[@fangsofmay]

Thank you Chris and Ali! 🌟 Absolutely brilliant. 🌟

[@JKB25]

Mesmerizing talk, tangents are welcome. More please. 🙌

[@jayalkhurafy1091]

what a rich episode thank you both it was really fun

[@catalinapopa4490]

Thank you for this amazing podcast! 🙏

[@angieforte3213]

39:18 🤣☠️ your so cool Chris

[@raintuition7663]

Nice!! Thank you 🙏

[@user-nn2hp6jg2w]

this episode is so cool.

[@Mukhtarahmad]

Thank you