Pastor Calls In To Ask The "Big" Philosophical Questions | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

[@cryptofacts4u]

Caller: "I haven't seen any primates flying planes" Also Caller: *Is themselves a Primate*

[@dragonfiremalus]

With the exception of a couple canines, every animal I've ever seen flying in a plane is a primate.

[@timg7627]

It’s quite repulsive that many pastors are so completely arrogant and believe whatever they state is a fact. All while having no interest in actually listening to a rebuttal but only desire to talk at people.

[@happyninja42]

almost like it's their job and training to misdirect, lie to, and manipulate people into believing them, without actually questioning the validity of their statements.

[@LordPrometheous]

​@@happyninja42to be fair, I imagine many of them believe the same bullshit they sell every week. They were indoctrinated as kids, just as many of us were. We're just the ones that got away.

[@angelslayer169]

Religion is an advertising campaign for a product that doesn't exist

[@jamesparson]

Well of course they don't want to listen. Their job requires them to be dismissive of anyone who disagrees with them.

[@DennisMerwood-xk8wp]

@@jamesparson Theists don't want atheists telling people what to believe - because theists want the exclusive right to tell people what to believe.

[@archivist17]

That poor pastor so desperately wants to be special, instead of relaxing into his real space in the universe.

[@bobs182]

The pastor is special because evolution gave him an ego.

[@DennisMerwood-xk8wp]

@@bobs182 The arrogance of religion rears its ugly head again God has a special plan for me….. I'm so special. No you're not, you are just a fuckin human being the same as everyone else.

[@Pooknottin]

Why do I suspect that he'd be quite happy to call someone a snowflake because they were trans? Nothing like a double standard combined with selective ignorance.

[@heiyuall]

Aggressive ignorance. It’s not the atheists who are the angry ones.

[@davewilliams5102]

This Pastor should finish High School first.

[@DiegoJinkusMusic]

This pastor makes a great point for public education.

[@joshsheridan9511]

We are primates, just a bit more advanced and a lot more dangerous

[@johnchambers9836]

No more advanced but certainly more dangerous

[@Atomus242]

​@@johnchambers9836we are more advanced, we created atomic bombs. That makes us really really dangerous

[@JFrazer4303]

They should have jumped on that when he said that we don't see primates flying airplanes.

[@JonKats]

Humans are not animals. In humans vs animals, is there something IRREVOCABLY in the dog that’s a dog vs is there something that’s IRREVOCABLY human in the human? Yes. They could never be from the same limited source. For example, no animal can grasp the idea of God. No animal can grasp the concept of the worship of God. NO ANIMAL can split the atom or build a space shuttle w/ 250k moving parts & walk on the moon. Only humans can get schizophrenia. We PURPOSELY cook w/ fire, while animals are scared of fire. Animals have no cognitive grasp of sending their daughter to college or producing technology & explaining it to paying students! Name an animal that can do ANY of these INTELLIGENTLY DYNAMIC things? THESE FACTS ONLY SCRATCH THE SURFACE TO PROVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANS AND ANIMALS. Humans clearly are not animals. I rest my irrefutable case.

[@stephenolan5539]

For some definitions of advanced.

[@badatheist9948]

A God does not need a planet to be just at a perfect place. his all powerful quality could make life possible. the amount of logical fallacies coming out of this man is amazing

[@tosuchino6465]

Exactly! If their god was omnipotent and omniscient, he could just create heaven and place humans in it after giving them appropriate memories and life experiences, since he knew what would happen to everyone. Why bother to create the universe, cause a global flood, send and resurrect a messaih? Unless he suffers from superior complex.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

Creation Order : NOT Science Dirt into Adam: NOT Science. Rib into Eve: NOT Science Global Flood: NOT Science Noah's Ark: NOT Science This is just the FIRST chapter. LOL

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

Talking snakes? Now that's scientific - it's just that the talking snake species must have died out. Probably didn't make it to the ark, or the kangaroos got there first and got dibs on their spot.

[@yolandacroes5491]

First 10 chapters.

[@IamValak-j9e]

no one ever mentions Adam's first wife do they ?

magic trees

[@MrGrifft]

I know a guy @the nameless comment above me

[@sergehychko3659]

What a clown. He wants to play the "we don't know" game when it suits his wild ass assertion, but he can't admit that he doesn't know anything about the universe, rather he "believes" that some guy did it. When conceit and ignorance are graphed, they frequently show a straight upward trend.

[@emptybucket1988]

Lmao

[@petyrkowalski9887]

« You dont see primates flying around in aircraft ». Massive face palm there… 😂

[@kenbob1071]

"I don't see primates flying around in airplanes or singing music..." Uh, birds can fly without the need for an airplane and sing. That must mean they are even more special than primates/humans.

[@Beacon80]

Also, gorillas are known to hum and sing during meal times.

[@justincredible.]

We are primates, we fly around in airplanes.

[@MrCanis4]

mmm, be careful. A pilot can take a nap while flying an airplane.

[@bodricpriest8816]

But.... we do fly around in airplanes and we do sing... and we're primates.... poor little man needs some primary school education in biology.

[@cy-one]

100% of airplanes are being flown by primates in first, second or third instance.

[@grantmartyn8877]

Atheism is not a worldview as the caller stated. It's simply a lack of belief in a god or gods.

[@waynedexter]

Theists are so desperate to assign an ideology to atheists that they’ll bend over backwards in order to do so. Quite annoying, much?

[@JonKats]

Wrong. “lack of belief" isn’t possible. You have a BELIEF and it's called "atheism." It's a religion of "self." And it's a godless faith with ZERO EVIDENCE. And to prove it, give me your RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step godless explanation for reality. I'm here to point out that you don't have one. You're such a shallow-thinker that you've not discovered that fact. All atheists are shallow-thinking fools that are totally lost & clueless regarding reality. You're making a "claim" by tagging yourself an "atheist." Making any claim is a statement of authority. G0D says he has ultimate authority over your life. You're saying you have the authority over your life. THAT is a claim in itself. You believe in WHATEVER EVIDENCE in your mind that there is no G0D. THAT is your FAITH/BELIEF. No "lack" there, pal.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@JonKatsCome on NEPy, tell us where Noah got the MILK from, for those THOUSANDS of baby mammals you claimed were on the Ark. Bet you run away, again. ... and again. ... and again.

[@amtlpaul]

According to Neverending Fraud, the default state is to believe EVERYTHING. Wishful thinking on Neverending's part. Infinite gullibility would certainly make the fraudster's life easy!

[@Angel-nl1hp]

It's because the Christians have a tendency to forget that other religions that their exist, so they think the opposite of atheism is Christianity and not theism. (Muslims tend to have similar issues.) Neither atheism nor theism are world views by themselves.

[@joelsmith5613]

HE DID IT!! He literally put the puddle before the hole after the fallacy had been explained to him! "Don't you think the water was put here to make the seeds grow..." NO!! The seed is the puddle, the water is the hole!

[@PeninjaPlaysTheThing]

“The water has meaning because it feeds plants” No plants use water, therefore giving it “meaning.” Where else in life do we let people get away with such basic things errors in logic.

[@JonKats]

LOL! The foolish atheists desperately try to debunk the fine-tuning facts of the earth, by saying “imagine the water in the mud puddle saying “look, this hole was made perfect for me! And that’s how weak the fine-tuning argument is for creationists.” The puddle argument doesn't work, because you have ONE THING (the hole) supposedly fine-tuned to the water inside it. It's an asinine way of describing the hugely more complex fine-tuning of the earth that proves G0D by the NOT ONE, but 25-40+ different entities that MUST BE DESIGNED BY G0D A CERTAIN WAY OF CO-DEPENDANCE for life to survive. Gee, a mud-puddle fitting water explains around radically engineered, specifically ordered and integrated beings with layers of subsystems working towards third purposes of intelligence, vision, information processing, consciousness.. Try to learn.

[@sugartoothYT]

The "life is so unlikely to exist therefore we must exist because of intelligent design" is one of my favorite examples of fallacious thinking. It's that crazy flaw in human thinking to conclude "low odds" to mean "no odds".

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

The thing is that life is NOT actually unlikely in terms of probabilities. It's a very likely outcome given the right conditions which certainly existed on earth over 3.5 billion years ago. There are only limited number of ways that atoms can combine with each other and remain stable, so get a planet load of Nitrogen, Oxygen, Hydrogen, and Carbon atoms, shake it all up, move it all around, throw in zillions of lightning bolts, and the chances of forming NH2CH2COOH is more likely than less likely given half a billion years.

[@amtlpaul]

'Special' is rather a subjective assessment, I would think.

[@ziploc2000]

Exactly. Humans see humans as special. To a bear or a lion, we're a meal. To a bacteria, we're an opportunity. If the "follower of Jebus" could take his eyes off Jebus' butt and look around and learn a bit about other things, maybe he'd be less self-obsessed.

[@FirstnameLastname-cx6go]

I'm special.

[@mestrinimaster3602]

And if everyone or every species is somewhat special, then "special" is meaningless

@@mestrinimaster3602 - The Incredibles

[@danielrussell9416]

I have flown on a plane that was full of primates.

[@tetsujin_144]

You think that's alarming... Wait until you check the cockpit! "OH NOES THE PILOT AND COPILOT ARE PRIMATES, TOO!"

[@justincredible.]

it was even designed, build and flown by primates

[@MrCanis4]

Yep, and I'm going to do that again in three days. Even a primate is at the controls of the plane.

[@Beacon80]

I've never been on a plane that didn't have at least two or three dozen primates on it.

[@DennisMerwood-xk8wp]

If I hop on a aeroplane and the pilot says he’s using faith to fly it, I’m getting off. Only in religion is faith considered wisdom.

[@baer0083]

How self-focused can anyone be?! "The water ist there for me... its its purpose to give me something to drink" WHATS THE PURPOSE OF FROZEN METHANE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE UNIVERSE?! He is impressed by everything small on our dustball but can't see past his front fence.

[@Not_An_EV]

That's not even mentioning that most water on earth isn't even safe to drink.

[@baer0083]

@@Not_An_EV Good Point! Just take the next available puddle. Its gods present.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

Yes, it's unlikely that any one planet would have the exact conditions required to sustain life, but there are 2 x 10^30 planets in just the observable Universe. So it's extremely unlikely that there aren't numerous planets out there that can sustain life.

[@steveOCalley]

Even if it’s one in a quadrillion that can support life, that’s still a quadrillion candidates.

[@suilegew]

It is estimated that there are 200 billion - 3 trillion galaxies, each with on average 100 million stars... So from that perspective, it is likely that life exists in many places.

It's not "unlikely". We have insufficient data to determine likelihood.

[@porkyboy4226]

We have a planet with life on it, making it very probable!

[@gliblyaware]

I made it halfway through this vid. This guy has the insight (and education) of a young teenager who hasn't an abundance of potential. That is certainly apparent.

[@michaelbell3181]

He's talking about the "puddle theory" as his reference for a god.

[@MarkJones-fw3mo]

Christian's hate to say I don't know.

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

So his argument is because we don't know about other planets in great detail that we are special.

[@NekoMouser]

I've always found the "we're special because we are" calls to be among the most painful. Guy was polite enough and everything, but the whole argument is just "we're special because a) I can't conceive of us NOT being special, and b) the ONLY way my subsequent claims even begin to work is if you buy the initial claim that we are special, so please just accept that we are or else I have nothing."

[@queuecee]

Theists: I'm special, so special. I got to have some of your attention, give it to me! 'Cause I gonna make you see there's nobody else here, no one like me.

[@Sundae_Times]

Got something, I'm winking at you Gonna make you, make you, make you notice

[@rodshop5897]

Well, then at least they have good taste in music! 😄

[@williambeckett6336]

The "Drake equation" and similar equations regarding the sheer magnitude of the universe makes not just life but intelligent life a certitude.

[@JFrazer4303]

OTOH, it's totally unproven, and the lack of structure or order everywhere around us strongly indicates that life and then tool-use is far more rare than we think or would like to think. See also panspermia. Look for the article on "comet swapping" by Dr Robert Zubrin, about meteoritic samples of planets being shared around the galaxy. The Solar system has been around the galaxy 20+ times since life started here, and the earliest life was selected by history of bombardment to survive being blown off the planet and surviving dormant for at least millions of years until it finds water. If the cloud of stuff the Solar system formed from wasn't already seeded with such stuff, the galaxy is now, from here. There's no reason to think that life first started on this particular mudball, rather than being seeded from out there. This just kicks the question of how life first started ahead of us, but it's a very strange and possibly important quirk to throw into the question.

[@nonfiction876]

Incorrect. The Drake equation and other similar equations are extremely conjectural, as stated by Drake himself. To calculate the probability you need some measurement of the likelihood of life happening. It is irrelevant that the potential sample size is massive, because the likelihood of life occurring may be even smaller. You are basically saying "There is so many people playing the lottery, surely someone HAS to win"... Well no, not if the probability of winning is much smaller than the sample size. This is highschool statistics and probability. I dont know why so many get this wrong over and over.

[@corywhitebread6519]

The entire problem with his premise of this god idea is that his god was created by man writing down what they saw and thought thousands of years ago. When they came up with their ideas back then they had absolutely no idea that any other planets besides ours existed. They didn't even know we had 7 continents on our current planet.

[@mestrinimaster3602]

Yep, lots of populations believed they were alone, simply because it was too far to see or too distant to reach... just like with the immensity of the universe regarding extraterrestrial life

[@Gwaithmir]

We've never seen primates flying airplanes? Pastor, we ARE primates.

[@DiegoJinkusMusic]

"I don't know when I'll get another chance..." Hopefully never again

[@johnchambers9836]

To say that this planet is the only one that maintains life so we are special and the universe being designed for life are in direct contradiction

[@MrGoogelaar]

We are special? The eyesight of an eagle is special when compared to our sorry eyes, birds can fly but we need a machine to do so, fishes can live in water yet we will drown in a couple of minutes, ants are one of the strongest creatures in relation to their size, we have appendixes, wisdom teeth, tonsils etc that can kill us when it go bad yet we can perfectly live without it, our sense of smell and hearing is pathetic when compared to most animals...but we are special...

[@anthonymarcus8841]

We are primates flying around in airplanes!

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

Yep, monkeys in space suits

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@HamptonDoubledayJr actually, the dogs beat us into space. This surprises me, since it seems certain that is anything was going to do it, it would be the cats!

[@GeoPePeTto]

So we are special, the puddle is special. The water is special. Everything and everyone is special. Sounds like nothing is special.

[@dreadtrain2846]

So, he's never seen a human fly a plane or sing or compose or whatever. Oh wait, he just had no idea what he said, shocked!

[@Gerryjournal]

We are so extraordinarily special and intelligent that we destroy everything we touch, including ourselves and this magnificent planet.

[@rodshop5897]

Yep, so sad that we are such poor custodians.

[@cryptofacts4u]

Caller: we're the only life for millions of miles around Also Caller: *Mentions other life on earth*

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

Pastor calling in: We are the only species that can do amazing things like put a man into space. Slow clap. Yep, it's called evolution.

[@yep_2431]

Man when he kept talking about how special humans are I couldn't stop thinking about the various genocides we've done to each other. Like I don't feel very special when I think about the various times we've annihilated our own populations. If this is the pinnacle of a deity's creation then how embarrassing for it.

[@FirstnameLastname-cx6go]

I'm special.

[@phoenixkingtheo]

I don’t understand why theists need their god to feel special. On the only planet we know of with life, we know that 99% of life that has ever lived, hqs died out. Our species, out of the small percent of life that has made it to the present is the only one that is asking questions like why we were here, what started the universe, how did life start. We are special, and don’t need a god to tell us that

[@mekannatarry1929]

Low self esteem from abuse, usually, as well as a fear of death--not dying, but being dead.

[@bobs182]

If they had any self awareness they would recognize that they are their god.

[@StevenNaylor-l9s]

We have a long way to go existence wise to equal dinosaurs, or sharks.

[@darkstar4494]

they are used to being treated as special by their parents, and their religion transfers that child emotional state into adulthood. they never have to grapple with nihilism, cosmic insignificance, death being final. and sincerely i envy them. i’d love to think that im being taken care of somehow and that ill live forever. that would be a great comfort to me.

[@Joao-pl6db]

“It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.” Carl Sagan

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

Yes, we are tiny parts of an AMAZING existence! We'll never get to know about the while thing but the parts we can discover are incredible!

[@stevenread5473]

This guy is so transparent. He's making an argument for design. It took all of two minutes to see that. " How many planets have life"? Isn't it amazing that this planet is perfect for us? Ridiculous line of reasoning. Isn't it amazing that everything was created for you by a God that looks like you.

[@FirstnameLastname-cx6go]

Isn't it amazing that I pulled a 2 of hearts out of my deck of cards? There's only one of those in a deck. It must be special.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

My invisible sky daddy "designed" the human body. The food and air tube are the same and hundreds of thousands choke to death every year. /s LOLZ

[@queuecee]

And design the laryngeal nerve to loop down to the aorta before going to the larynx. Yeah, that makes sense.🙄 Maybe god was drunk.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@queuecee The laryngeal nerve sounds like it might have been designed by a fish.

[@tonyclements1147]

During a seizure, a person experiences abnormal behavior, symptoms, and sensations, sometimes including loss of consciousness. Nice wiring God. r/sarcasm

[@bartvaes4126]

In summarize: "We're 'speshul' because daddy said so".

[@evenodd3339]

I remember this eclipse they are talking about. I was lucky enough to be living in the path of totality.

[@jackfollansbee2398]

Atheism isn't a worldview, it's an opinion about a particular claim.

[@user-gk9lg5sp4y]

Scientists don't depend on order and regularity. They observe it.

[@lloyds7828]

Makes you wonder where the order came from. I know I know, it just is!

[@paulrevelersmithsonian9016]

@@lloyds7828 Philosophical question.

[@user-gk9lg5sp4y]

@@lloyds7828 The thing is a deity is not a good hypothesis. It makes no testable predictions.

[@lloyds7828]

@@user-gk9lg5sp4y Right, that is why it is a philosophical question.

[@lloyds7828]

@@user-gk9lg5sp4y Basically where did the laws of physics come from. Thing is, the laws of physics can't tell us from whence they came.

[@lilithcal]

If we’re so unique and special why spend the effort to create the rest of the universe? Now, if the universe were haphazardly created with chaos, our existence is equivalent to the spaghetti that stuck to the wall.

[@sunsetpalms1923]

Anyone can claim anything if they don't have to back it up with evidence.

[@jonclark8252]

Neppy and Jim are proof of that, LOL

[@dannyspitzer1267]

Pastor, what's the point of the rest of the universe beyond our sun and earth?.... The first of a million questions

[@dv8754]

And this is a LEADER among his faith. This is a man who teaches and influences the beliefs and behaviors of other people, likely including children. It's not about bashing a faith simply because you don't believe. It's about preventing the harm that this failure of thinking creates.

[@Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic]

'I can't imagine a world any other way therefore no other possibilities exist.' Yep, definitely a pastor.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

The human race may not be special but this pastor definitely is.

[@donnyh3497]

😅 wouldn't you think that with alll of the desperate attempts to justify their beliefs, they would at some point actually look at themselves trying so hard and ask themselves why it's so hard to justify and why it's so important to them?

[@doubtful_form]

We're just the lost keys that were found in a particular couch crack.

[@vgrof2315]

The poor ignorant guy. For a start, are we humans not primates flying around in airplanes? Further, he simply cannot understand the concept that we don't know about other life in the universe. What is so challenging about that idea??

[@Sundae_Times]

Humans are primates but don't say that in front of Nepy - it'll only upset him. He doesn't even believe that we're mammals 🤦‍♂

[@queuecee]

He's not even in the animalia kingdom. So he's some multicellular protist.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@queuecee ... with a single cell brain.

[@Sundae_Times]

@@queuecee Yeah, I always figured he was 'special'.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@queueceehe just popped back up with a new account: Jon Kats.

[@MaeljinRajah]

We need to build a machine to fly. Most birds can do it without a machine. This guy has no f****** point

[@r.i.p.volodya]

Everything we've ever discovered about 'Life, the Universe & Everything' demonstrates that we are absolutely NOT special. But, if you read nothing apart from the bible then I can see why you would have a massively skewed view on things.

[@lmechb3305]

I expected a pastor to be very humble, but I was wrong.

[@robertbillingsley8555]

Nice call. The boys were able to make some nice points that us average folks need to hear.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

MY god is the ultimate designer - who built a 100,000 sq feet home and man is only allowed to live on ONE SQ FOOT of that home - everywhere else he dies. /s LOLZ

[@queuecee]

It would be closer if it was trillions and trillions of square feet and you were given one square inch. Also, during a hundred year period, you are given one second to occupy it.

[@MicrobyteAlan]

It’s called physics and biology

[@Lac4ever]

I thought the closest star is the sun

[@starfishsystems]

Russell pointed that out immediately. Eight light minutes away, he said.

[@queuecee]

​@@starfishsystems Taylor Swift isn't that far away.

[@steveOCalley]

11:37 “A giant cat can climb straight up a tree at terrific speed. Can you?” “I can improvise quite rapidly.”

[@justincredible.]

The fact that we MIGHT be alone, could also say it's a fluke, an accident.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Saying we’re “special” is a very narcissistic term to use.

[@kemest6666]

So we're equal to dirt?

[@katalytically]

The nerd in me compels me to say the the nearest star, besides the sun, is Proxima Centauri, 4.2 LY from the sun.

[@queuecee]

So humans are special because all animals fear us? He should try swimming in shark-infested waters and see how afraid they are.

[@jayrose8638]

At my job I work with some exotic big cats and they don’t seem very nervous when we come around.

[@queuecee]

​@jayrose8638 Maybe if you read the Bible to them, they would get more scared.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

He needs to go for a swim in a salt water estuary in Far North Queensland and meet a salt water crocodile.

[@jayrose8638]

@@queuecee actually now that you mention it if wild animals reacted to any holy scripture that would be pretty interesting. Maybe I’ll “accidentally” drop something with the tigers and see what happens. I have a feeling it will be similar to what happened to my buddies notepad he left in there.

[@Beacon80]

We have an intrinsic fear of snakes, so snakes must be more special than we are.

[@Arkloyd]

tom, Trees don't exist so bears can scratch their backs on the trees.

[@MrCanis4]

It’s a bid like, All pigs are special but some pigs are more special.

[@blindlemonpledge2556]

The Doug Adams puddle joke is an example of a Shabby Friar joke. Abraham Lincoln once made such a joke when he mused that it was remarkable that his legs were just long enuf to reach the ground.

[@Beacon80]

A quick Google search taught me that some gorillas hum

[@Elbonio]

There are uncontacted tribes who, from their point of view, think they are special because they are the only humans. We know that's not true and there's a whole world and technology beyond their wildest dreams. In terms of space and other planets, we could be the uncontacted tribe and wouldn't know it.

[@starfishsystems]

Yes, and being out on a spiral arm of the galaxy, we're very much more isolated than solar systems positioned nearer to the galactic center. We're barely able to visit neighboring planets in the same solar system. But we can do it. If, where density is greater than here, there were several small solar systems in Lagrangian stations orbiting around some larger mass, the total system might have enough orbital stability to produce life on several of its planets. And if that life evolved over billions of years to develop space travel to the degree that we have, there's a possibility of that system experiencing interplanetary colonization or warfare or civilization. Over millions of years, that would make quite an epic story, if they could settle down to peaceful coexistence rather than annihilating each other. It could be an unimaginably grand achievement. But that still wouldn't overcome the speed of light.

[@rodshop5897]

"There are uncontacted tribes who, from their point of view, think they are special because they are the only humans." Are there? How would you know that they think they are the only humans?

[@Elbonio]

@@rodshop5897 if a tribe has no evidence of other humans, or the outside world, why would they? It may not be the case in 2024 that there are tribes like this but I'm betting 100 or 200 years ago there were multiple groups of humans so isolated that they were not aware of the wider human civilization. If you don't understand the premise, there's nothing that can be done for you.

[@rodshop5897]

@@Elbonio Well sure, if we go back in time far enough, your earlier post makes sense. The premise was poorly stated, but you will refuse to admit that, won't you?

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

​@@rodshop5897You just pinned my bs meter in the red. Well done.

[@donjhoe9206]

He was politer than most, which is good, but consistent in not considering opposing viewpoints

[@sabrina0013]

If the "no life on other planets" argument is true, it would mean that all life on Earth is special. Yes, even the bacteria. Tom, you are not more special in the universe than bacteria is.

[@smochygrice465]

So the spaghetti monster is real 😊 Why else would pasta call in? And a good Tuesday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠✌️

[@user-fdb4gu7mj98fd]

Praying for you Gricey, I hope one day God changes your mind so you can exist with us theists in God's Holy city and NOT in hell with Satan and his legions of evil demons amen.

[@DennisMerwood-xk8wp]

My God is The Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM), the holy deity of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Pastafarianism. A Pastafarian prophet of the Venganza forums known as Solipsy received divine guidance and wrote The Loose Canon, the Holy Book of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The book was completed in 2010 and was made available for download. Our gospel urges readers to try Rastafarianism for thirty days, saying, "If you don't like us, your stupid old religion will most likely take you back". Some excerpts from The Loose Canon include: "I am the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Thou shalt have no other monsters before Me (Afterwards is OK; just use protection). The only Monster who deserves capitalization is Me! Other monsters are false monsters, undeserving of capitalization". -  Suggestions 1:1-5 "If you have done a half-ass job, you will receive half an ass! The Great Soloman will grab his scimitar and strike a donkey, cleaving it in two" - Slackers 1:51-52 The New Testament of the FSM: Dinner 2.0 (also known as the New and Improved Recipe) was published in 2018. It became the Holy Book of The Unitarian Church of Pasta and The FSM Revival Church of Ziti. Some excerpts from The New Testament of The Flying Spaghetti Monster include: "We need never doubt our Divine Carbohydrate, for even our DNA is shaped like a noodle so we know that pasta is holy" - Book One: The Holy Book of Lasagna. And I have faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Every word in his Gospels were written by him and are true. The Flying Spaghetti Monster commands us to go onto every internet site comment section, no matter what the subject, and spread the word of him. And, as with the Christian Biblical God, you are not permitted to ever question it. Ever! That is very offensive to us Pastafarians.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@user-fdb4gu7mj98fdsorry, but you have been deceived! The ONLY real god is the Goddess, Holy Unicorn. May She dust you with her Special Sparkles. Neighmen.

[@franklindcottrell]

Were unique, except for the fact that we share many of the same characters of our primate cousins. Of course if you bring that point up theyll counter that we have a common designer.

[@Glasschin2.0]

Don’t see any primates flying around in airplanes? I took six flights in the year or so and all 6 flights were full of primates and flown by primates.

[@davidfitnesstech]

I mean, I really wouldn't expect a 'pastor' to think any other way. He's in a trench of belief and he's not going to escape it.

[@steveOCalley]

Polar bears have very little problem with innate fear of man. 12:11

[@cesariglesias297]

Wait until he read about the Astrochimps yes the first American space passenger was a Chimp, Russian like Dogs, Ham and Laika... Who was the first preacher in space?

[@perilouspoozer3749]

I recently did a presentation to a local science group entitled “Why are we here? - ten accidents of nature without which we wouldn’t exist”. Each one of those accidents is incredibly unlikely and for ten of them to happen by chance is scarcely believable at all. But, in a Universe so large and so old, even the most improbable things can and will happen somewhere. We may be the only place where it has happened, in which case we are exceptionally special. I feel that we’re not using that gift very responsibly.

[@gemganuhay661]

Yes indeed, for all we know we may well be the very first of what may eventually become a Universe with many such planets inhabited by humans and other species. I suspect our possibilities are as limitless as the expanding Universe itself.

[@perilouspoozer3749]

@@gemganuhay661 or we may be the most recent of many that have gone before, some of whom may still exist or may have fallen by the wayside. I wonder if we’ll ever know; the distances between stars being what they are.

[@perilouspoozer3749]

@@RickLambert963 what does that have to do with anything?

[@gemganuhay661]

@@RickLambert963 And the price of rice in the Philippines is about to drop as the cartel controlling it has just been removed by the government.

[@gemganuhay661]

@@perilouspoozer3749 "Whatever the mind can conceive man can achieve". If we believe we can then we can. Do you believe that there could be floating cities in hundreds of years from now?

[@Not_An_EV]

"How many planets have life on it" at the minute the science says its likely that there's 2 we know of.

[@StraightEdgeHeathen]

The delusional arrogance of these people.

[@christopheraaron8299]

The preacher's argument is one we've heard many times. It's telling how small his concept of the universe is because he made reference to how we're the only planet with life for "millions of miles." Even if you take that to the furthest you can extend "millions" and say "999,999,999 miles" that's still an insanely small sample size in a universe that's billions of light years across or bigger. I don't remember who made this analogy, but it's like scooping a glass of water from the ocean and saying "I don't see any sharks in here, so there must not be any sharks in the ocean."

[@laurajarrell6187]

When the pastor said we don't see primates flying in planes, um, yes we do. That is where the lack of knowledge of evolution shows. We and our cousins, all the other primates evolved from early primate type animals. All of us are simians. We humans are most closely related to bonobos, and chimpanzees. So, yep, primates fly planes, and we do many other things.👍🏿💙💙💙🥰✌🏻

[@Olyfrun]

He can't see primates flying planes because he can't see through the walls. That you cannot are something is not evidence of doesn't exist. Absence of evidence... I don't think this pastor knows the rest of the phrase.

[@towerdave4836]

How come it took one to two hundred thousand year for man to fly if he’s that special?

[@gerrye114]

We orbit the most common type of star on the most common type of planet, which is one of 3 within our Goldielocks zone, with other moons capable of harboring life. We are made of the most common chemicals. The idea that we are alone is almost absurd. We have scooped up a glass of water out of the ocean and he declares that there's no life out there

[@davidallen111]

Where is Middlepoint, Oregon?

[@cy-one]

45.8123657°N, -117.4940674°W

[@JeffJefferyUK]

TLDW: "Wow!" Therefore a god

[@jimmythebold589]

tldw could be said about almost every theist caller to AXP. i think i've only seen ONE episode of this, or the line, or talk heathen, where there was a reasonable theist, who was invited wholeheartedly back to the show. i don't remember his name, but he was nice, but still annoying in his ignorance. this guy also sounds familiar to me...

[@catkeys6911]

Another good example of a conversation going nowhere.

[@russbroda7207]

They don’t depend on certain findings. They are looking for what the findings are. Then they are asking does this comport with what we know already or do we have to change what we know already ; and how do we change it? What will we do to confirm our changes? And so onwards grows knowledge.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

Atheism is what's "been real negative in the World"? You sure you're not thinking of religion?

[@MrCanis4]

But not in Northern Europe.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

@@MrCanis4 Not sure what you're trying to say but I maintain that religion is a negative force everywhere.

[@MrCanis4]

@@HamptonDoubledayJr Yep, my bad. It could go either way. I am an Atheist just like the majority here in Northern Europe.

[@JonKats]

STOP the stupidity. Atheism is a religion. A religion of “SELF.” Instead of properly worshipping God and putting him first in your life; YOU PUT YOURSELF FIRST. EVERYBODY HAS A FAITH. It’s just that your faith is stupid. Atheism tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion. Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult, is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday. Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Could you be more lost and clueless? Einstein called atheism "a religion formed to reject other religions. How cute and desperate they are." I know it hurts to know that the most famous and respected scientist of our generation believed atheists to be pathetic idiots LOL

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

​@@JonKatsSo where can someone attend atheist church services devoted to themselves? Oh, you're making that up? Quelle surprise.

[@joelonsdale]

I genuinely think the sweet old guy didn't understand anything Don and Russell said. The puddle story went right over his head.

[@kellythompson3865]

You sure that ain't Myrtle Point Oregon?

[@amtlpaul]

The Lambot continues to post the same old spambot posts. The answers remain the same.

[@gh3ttoduCanada]

"men are generally feared by other species" Meanwhile, the hippo:

[@amtlpaul]

The Lambot keeps on spamming

[@queuecee]

Sparty claims that no one has special rights, but he's all over here wanting to be exempt from the ToS and that the AXP should get rid of screeners and the mute button for him. He wants special rights in denying what science and the medical community believes is the treatment for people with gender dysphoria. He wants the speed of light squared to be "5", despite NO physicist thinking that's correct.

[@jimmythebold589]

Long winded? Betcha his 'friends' hate him. Narcissists are despised by anyone who seems to be a fri8end. Those 'friends' are usually hostages. coworkers. family, etc. Dude has a whole church of hostages.

[@DragonHeart-cm1tx]

Personally, I see humans ss special in a little yellow bus kind of way... There sre a multitude of animals who have entered into their Stone Age. Chimps, crows, and rats are just the tip of the iceberg. Now there are animals that intentionally learn each other's languages in order to communicate with each other. Various species of whales and dolphins do this as well as some birds if I'm not mistaken. I marvel at these animals and feel privileged to witness evolution in motion first hand! 😮❤😮❤😮❤

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Tom is special, just like everybody else