"I Have Evidence For A Creator, It's The Best Evidence" | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

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[@ARoll925]

It is amazing how someone can with a straight face call others dishonest while being incredibly dishonest

[@hellshade2]

it's called hypocrisy and irony...

[@DrinkWater713]

These are the people that do it the most.

[@MarkMiller-gt5tu]

​@@DrinkWater713Where did 💦 water originate?

[@DrinkWater713]

@@MarkMiller-gt5tu You mean the water we have ON EARTH? According to The Planetary Society, (and with my previous understanding based on other sources) I found this: "There are numerous theories about how Earth got its water. Most fall into two categories: Either Earth was born with the molecular precursors of water already present, or water-laden space rocks like asteroids and comets brought water here after the planet’s formation. Many of these theories are compatible with each other, meaning Earth could have gotten its water from multiple sources."

[@MarkMiller-gt5tu]

@@DrinkWater713 Thanks. That was very informative. I appreciate your kindness. Have a 😃 Great day!

[@wickedchef]

I know two things when I listen to Jacob talk. 1. He doesn't know what he's talking about. 2. He doesn't want anyone else to know what he's talking about either.

[@HumanismIsRepulsive]

I know three things about the atheist hosts of atheist experience. 1. They have a disbelief in God which means even if God was proven by the scientific method they still wouldn't accept God 2. While they don't have the willingness or ability to accept God they don't actually believe the origins of Life came into existence without God . 3. None of them can supply a rational definition for the word female.

[@rabbithole8592]

@@wickedchef PROOF OF CREATION/INTELLIGENT DESIGN/FLAT EARTH! The supposed globe has a radius of 4000 miles. Therefore the curvature should drop at a rate of 8 inches per mile squared. Yet we see ships, shorelines, skylines and mountain ranges from impossible distances. The Elevation, Distance, and 8 inches per mile squared, are all factored in. We only need 3-5 miles to prove there's no curvature. 8×3 miles squared ÷12=6ft of curvature drop. If you stand on a shoreline and watch a ship disappear "over the horizon" with your naked eye, then look through a high powered zoom lense or telescope, you can pull The ship back into view, top to bottom, hull and all. Why? Because the horizon isn't curvature. It's perspective. Limit of one's vision with the naked eye from sea level. If you stand in the centre of 100+ square miles of flat ground, you will see a horizon about 2-3 miles away in every direction 360 degrees around you. Why? Because the horizon isn't curvature. It's perspective. Limit of one's vision with the naked eye from ground level. I've seen the "Ocean of Heaven" seemingly suspended in the sky above with my own two eyes. Consistent with Ancient Hebrew Cosmology. It's a closed system. "Outer Space" is water. There were thousands of "U.f.o's" in or above the Ocean outside the Firmament. Want proof of the firmament? No problem! KZbin - Sprites .... Slow the video down and watch in slow motion. You'll see the Lightening strike and ricochet off of the firmament above creating Sprites. Wernher Von Braun has PSALMS 19:1 engraved on his Gravestone. Who's Wernher Von Braun!? Aerospace Engineer of Nasa. Astronots pretend to go to space. Green screen. Cgi props and globe. Backflips on harnesses. Space walks are done in underwater studios. Deep diving suits. Etc I've also seen the flower of life all over my walls, ceiling and floor in my apartment. Why would I see the flower of life all over a man made construct? Because we are the Sims! Physicists say they found computer code embedded in the equations we use to describe the cosmos. Suggesting we more than likely live in a computer simulation. Atoms behave differently when being observed (Double Slit Experiment) Atoms are 99.99 % empty space. Therefore physical matter doesn't actually exist on a subatomic level. There are no Coincidences. Only Synchronization. Algorithms. My theory/hypothesis based on everything above... ? We live on a a stationary plane with a firmament above within a virtual reality. Atoms are pixels projecting 3D images in a 4D realm. Our bodies are Avatars. Jesus is Gods Avatar 🙏 ✝️

[@gknight4719]

Yes, its just not comprehensible!

[@mannybaquero2129]

A prisoner in one of the concentration camps during World War Two carved the following words in one of the walls “If there is a god, he will have to beg for my forgiveness”

[@BIayne]

This call is why people make fun of theists. I was vicariously embarrassed for Jacob.

[@HumanismIsRepulsive]

The fact the vast majority of atheists humanist in the west that can't provide a rational definition for the word female is one of the reasons why we laugh at them.

[@Kellie08]

Right? You’d think theists would listen to what other theists say and accept their arguments didn’t work and try something new, but noooooo. It’s always the same nonsense over and over again.

[@BIayne]

Your comment made me rewatch this. And for fuck sake, Jacob seems like a nice enough guy but holy shit is he dumb. Every single one of his dumbass arguments was flicked away as effortlessly as flicking an ant off your arm. And like an ant he just kept marching along like nothing happened, learning nothing from the experience and continuing to climb back up to get effortlessly flicked away again. At one point he asked if they were aware of any evidence for a Creator, and when they said no he was dumbfounded. He literally exclaimed "WOW! That's amazing." Jacob was surprised that people who don't believe in a God or gods aren't aware of any evidence for a God or gods. He doesn't even know WHAT the people he's talking to believe. It would be like me talking to a Republican with zero knowledge of what Republicans tend to believe, and me saying: "So you don't think the Second Amendment should be repealed?". And they say "No." And I go "WOW! That's amazing." Wow indeed 😑

[@imawake805]

Raley are they hearing atheist points from atheists. When have you ever heard an atheist say they believe something came from nothing? Most atheists wouldn't even know how you'd go about defining nothing. Even the person they base it on Laurence Kraus, never meant 'nothing' in the way they use it.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

Every AXP caller ever: "I have evidence for God!" Also every AXP caller: Never presents evidence for God

[@martinkuliza]

and...They've been doing this for over 20 years Now.. Why can't they see the conclusion, that being.. - ARROGANCE - DELUSION - LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY Seriously.... i'm not taking sides But if a group of people can't admit their mistakes after being shown that they deny things for over 20 years and provide nothing factual THAT'S A CLEAR PROBLEM Again....OVER 20 YEARS

[@HumanismIsRepulsive]

It's not that they didn't provide evidence for God it's just that atheist don't understand the meanings of words like evidence. There is evidence for God the fact every civilization we have ever come across predating the Bible and despite not having contact with each other came to the same conclusion of the creator of the origins of life is evidence of the belief in God being a designed thought and or a logical conclusion. Also atheism is a disbelief it's disingenuous for an atheist to even ask for evidence for God. Even if God was proven by the scientific method somebody with a disbelief in God wouldn't have the willingness or ability to accept God. Interesting enough like the word evidence atheists don't know the meaning of the word atheism and the word disbelief.

[@PrivateSi]

You don't need evidence of anything to believe anything... If anybody tells you the opposite they're lying.

[@ellaaleksandra704]

@@PrivateSi well if they are saying they have evidence, should they not present some of it to us?

[@PrivateSi]

@@ellaaleksandra704 .. Yes, but it should make no difference whether you choose to believe in something or not. If God presents irrefutable evidence of his existence you have no obligation to believe he is The One True God.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

This dude turning himself into a pretzel to argue the inarguable.

[@Acteaon]

Facts!

[@rods6741]

When he realizes he's losing, he talks faster.

[@grantm6514]

And arguing both sides as it suits him - like whether God sacrificed Jesus or not, whether Jesus died or not - this guy was all over the place.

[@hectorhenry9841]

The passion and underlying anger the caller expressed is directly proportional to the TERROR they feel at the thought of their entire world view being false. Denial is real for a lot of people.

[@giri.goyo_yt]

Well put.

[@ibisiglesias6906]

Absolutely. 👌💯

[@duncanbryson1167]

Well the Abrahamic religions are based on fear.

[@Talote1983]

Everytime someone says ¨so you are saying...¨ in a conversation, you KNOW that some dishonest crap is going to fall out of their mouths.

[@einienj3281]

Yup. Purposefully misunderstanding is what they do most.

[@tomhubbard1900]

Well, now, I have to disagree. I use the tactic frequently to make sure I'm understanding what someone is telling me, particularly if they're dancing all around the main point with a lot of irrelevant references and allusions. Paraphrasing someone's statement is a very effective technique in debate, though it's obviously prone to abuse, as well.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@tomhubbard1900 I have to agree and add: I do it if something just isn't clear or my mind cannot compute it as said, as it gives the other party a reason to try a different angle or approach. I also ask it with repeating their exact words, if I can see where they are wrong, so they can hear it coming from someone else and maybe pick up on their error. I think all of us are right, in the uses, but there is where the nuances come in, like when in the conversation it is asked, their tone of voice when asking, and the setting and reason for the conversation in the first place.

[@bobgarrett7134]

@@tomhubbard1900 This debate technique is used by atheists to put words in people's mouth. Another technique is to cut people's argument off, change the subject, and ask them a leading question. If they don't get the one-word answer they're looking for they mute the caller and go on a 5-minute rant. If anyone makes an effective argument they sarcastically suggest he go collect his Nobel Prize and throw up a ton of evasive BS before ending the call.

[@tmurphy0919]

@@bobgarrett7134 Then you and you ilk should stop spewing nonsense if you don't want to be called out on it. Why do think anyone has to sit through BS that's been repeated ad nauseum and never goes anywhere? Cry harder.

[@JorgeFCR2502]

Imaginary entities need spokespersons.

[@T800-theRealOne]

lol. very true. There are spokespeople for Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny as well. They are kids.

[@humbleevidenceaccepter7712]

Well said. I am so stealing that line.

[@T800-theRealOne]

@@humbleevidenceaccepter7712 I should use it too. It's genius. If God existed, there'd be no debate. Atheism wouldn't even exist.

[@JorgeFCR2502]

@@humbleevidenceaccepter7712 👍

[@einienj3281]

@@JorgeFCR2502 Doesn't the bible say something about not trusting men and never to speak in behalf of god? And what does church do? Men speaking in behalf of god.. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Why not let god speak for itself? 🤭😄

[@roguebotanist]

Like Woody Allen said - "showing up is 80% of success".

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

"Regarding religion vs. science ... I'll take the air conditioning."

[@richardhedd3080]

If god shows up and no one believes he's god, how lame is that? If god in person can't convince people he's real then he's not much of a god.

[@Mewse1203]

Lol, right? How weak

[@queuecee]

God: Hmmm... what can I do to convince people that I exist? If only I knew a lot of things, maybe even know everything. What's that called? I don't exist, so I'm only smart as the person who believes me.

[@OswaldBatesIIIEsq]

If "god" were to show up and juggle tractor trailers, I might be convinced "he's" real.

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

Exactly. Must believe he showed up in biblical time or burn. But also must believe he doesn’t show now, because now no one would believe?

[@Tuna_Man2323]

He created the Babel Fish to offer up some sort of hint, but the whole thing backfired in a puff of logic.

[@bestbehave]

“So your argument is that the fact he never shows up is somehow evidence that he doesn’t exist”…😂😂😂

[@einienj3281]

Image that... 😄😄

[@Krutchly]

In much the same way that vampires, zombies, orcs, elves and fairies never show up. I wonder why?

[@queuecee]

He's trying to claim a black swan fallacy. What they don't get is that swans exist. Colors exist. Black AND white exist. So it WOULD be a fallacy to deny something that has pretty good likelihood of existing. It would be like denying abiogenesis simply because we weren't there billions of years ago, when we've found all the naturalistic processes that could have led to a primitive protocell.

[@67cudaksa34]

i bet you do not think zeus exists. This caller lacks any basis of critical thought. in the dover trial the biologist who testified against ID was a christian. And this caller whole argument, is a logical fallacy. this man has zero education in any field of science. And he is pushing the discovery institute.

[@OswaldBatesIIIEsq]

I don't know if "god" exists or not but I'm leaning towards "not".

[@ARoll925]

Yet another caller spouting an argument from incredulity

[@TheTruthKiwi]

And ignorance

[@Riftsrunner]

​@@TheTruthKiwiAnd throw into the mix, Authority. If a scientist personally believes in a deity, they try to work in the realms of reality and evidence (which indicates zero hand of a creator involved in natural processes). And any scientist who puts forth an argument on his say so alone because he earned some letters to put after his name isn't a scientist.

[@HumanismIsRepulsive]

😂 imagine atheists accusing someone of incredulity. Atheism is the position of incredulity it's a disbelief in God.

[@HumanismIsRepulsive]

​@@Riftsrunner If a scientist personally has a disbelief in God AKA he's an atheist he's taking the opposite of the scientific approach. Anybody who's a scientist and an atheist doesn't belong studying the origins of life and things of this nature because even if it's proven by the scientific method the origins of life is the result of creation a scientist or anybody else with a disbelief in God still wouldn't accept it. Imagine you have scientists in atheist humanist North Korea who discovered the origins of Life was the result of creation but because of atheist humanist Kim jong-un and the atheist humanist government of North Korea they're not allowed to accept the origins of Life was a result of creation ,even if they themselves proved it using the scientific method. If a scientist as an individual personally has a disbelief in God and he claims the idea of the origins of Life came into existence without God is part of the natural process he's making a claim to the supernatural. He's giving his personal opinion or what he claims his opinion is it has nothing to do with science. I know atheists don't understand this but a scientist trying to physically create life using the materials around him is not life popping into existence because of a non intelligent occurrence it's actually creation. The natural process as we know it is life comes from life, Life comes from an intelligent source. So if anybody claims the origins of Life came into existence without God they're making a claim to the supernatural. And science doesn't deal in the supernatural . I noticed that atheists believe saying the word science equates to proving something using the scientific method but it doesn't. It's Just saying the word science. And let's not forget like almost everything else in the modern world modern science comes from Christian civilization AKA modern Western Civilization.

[@ARoll925]

@@HumanismIsRepulsive no, it isn't

[@solly119119]

"Agree to disagree ..." (about the 3:30 mark) One of the most dishonest things someone can say. That's just someone running away because they know they lost the argument and are trying to save face.

[@akhnatenpage4854]

I love that everyone saw through him and laughed.

[@Phrive]

I am always reminded of Hitchens, when someone said it to him his reply was amazing. 'I could agree to disagree but then we'd both be wrong'

[@YourRealDaddy]

​@@Phrive😂😂

[@IRGeamer]

"I don't have a problem with ignorance. We are all ignorant about a variety of subjects we are not currently aware of. The real problem is when that ignorance is wilful, intentional and used as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with you, or anyone who has the nerve to present facts you don't want to accept." - anyone who actually cares about verifiable reality

[@mirandahotspring4019]

You would think an all knowing god would know what evidence would convince people.

[@quentind1924]

Yeah, god should know that sending minions here won't convince anyone. The theists spamming here are wasting their time, and god let it happen if he exists

[@discontinuedmodel232]

According to most theists (Christian theists anyway) all the "look at the trees!" 🤩evidence IS readily available/obvious, but atheists just refuse to accept it. 😏

[@d_camara]

God on his way to make a picture frame drop off of a shelf as his best way to convince you he's real (he know it won't work and refuses to use a method that will work [i think he doesn't want you to believe he's real {i think god is a tsundere}])

[@robbybeum212]

An omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent god would know what each individual athiest or agnostic would need in the way of evidence to believe in him and yet, here we are with no evidence and unconvinced.

[@ralphhebgen7067]

I never understand why believers in an omniscient, eternal, omnipotent being at the same time assume that they know why that being does what it does.

[@Mewse1203]

"A growing number of scientists are saying thus demonstrates a god." No, no, they're not. In fact it's going the opposite way.

[@johnsperry9494]

"I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time." -- Isaac Asimov

[@quotedotes]

Yeah, b-but if they pretend that it's true, it sounds kind of convincing, especially if you just assume that I'm telling you the truth and never verify what I'm saying to you, right!? HOW can atheists be so dishonest!!!

[@carlisroy6666]

Notice he didn't name a single one.

[@abc456f]

That's correct. He just flat out lied to try to make himself right.

[@dennisaulayrobinson]

I don't know how anyone can have the patience to argue with this type of individual...

[@loomspace]

You can tell Jacob is in Florida as he’s increasingly underwater as the call goes on and in complete denial about it.

[@TimHonisett-m1x]

Completely in de nile

[@freakishuproar1168]

_"I'm sure God will save meBLUBURRLURBLE..."_

[@discontinuedmodel232]

Yes - he's underwater AND being devoured by alligators. 😃

[@TheMcrico84]

I just had a conversation with a woman that claimed she talked to god then i told her that i talked to spirits and she said that wasnt real lol. 😂😂😂

[@d_camara]

Theists on their way to say faith is the way to absolute truth, but also that the other 90% of the faith users on earth that have Faith in other gods or other things or other sects of their religion are 100% WRONG So faith has a

[@TheMcrico84]

@@d_camara lol

[@andystokes8702]

@@d_camara Every theist regardless of which particular religion they follow believes that theirs is the only true religion and all other gods and all other religions are false without ever offering an explanation as to why that might be. They can't all be right, best case scenario is that one of them may right and all the others are wrong. They could however all be wrong.

[@michaelfickling4636]

Hahaha. This comment wins the internet

[@888PsyMike888]

​@@andystokes8702What if all our gods were aliens and humans worshiped them, because their capabilities looked like magic?

[@einienj3281]

He is one of those: "look at the trees!" 😂

[@oldbatwit5102]

I looked at a tree once. It was ok, I guess.

[@vladtheemailer3223]

Yes, the self-evident God that not everyone can see.

[@einienj3281]

@@oldbatwit5102 I like trees. They are nice. But once you've seen one of each, it's pretty meh..

[@einienj3281]

@@vladtheemailer3223 Maybe I need better glasses or something.. god goggles? 😎

[@vladtheemailer3223]

@einienj3281 I like to ask them if God is self-evident, and if they say yes, I ask them to point to him. Then I ask if they know what self-evident means.

[@humbleevidenceaccepter7712]

Like essentially all theists, Jacob listens with his mouth.

[@HuxtableK]

Goddammit that's a good comment.

[@Kellie08]

Poor Yahweh. It must suck to be an all-powerful entity and creator of the entire universe, yet still have to rely on people like Jacob to be your spokesperson.

[@bobs182]

And what would be the point of a god interacting with us? And why did it take god an eternity to decide to create a universe and what was he doing for an eternity? Did god have a choice and simply not create the universe? What if god had done something meaningful with his existence instead of wasting it on humans creating them 200,000 years ago then deciding to send his son to "save" a desert tribe 2,000 years ago? Why is god catering to our egocentrism?

[@Kellie08]

@@bobs182 And why does this god have useless human emotions like anger and jealousy when he’s the creator of everything? How could he cast Lucifer out of Heaven because he was jealous of him when he KNEW what was going to happen? And how vile do you have to be just torture the people you created for doing exactly what you already KNEW they were going to do? He literally just creates people to torture them. THAT’S IT! That’s what the Bible humpers call love.

[@ARoll925]

What's actually amazing Jacob, is you do think there is evidence for a creator, there is not

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

"but look at the trees"....

[@TheFinalFanboy]

12:16 Einstein was not a biologist. He was a theoretical physicist. Just because he is a well-known smart person does not mean that his opinions about biology outweigh the consensus of biologists on the question of intelligent design. That's called an argument from authority fallacy, Jacob.

[@jayjonah83]

Also, just because someone is correct about one thing it does not in no way imply that they are correct about anything else REGARDLESS of how educated they may be

[@queuecee]

@@jayjonah83 There's a famous Nobel Prize winner in physics, Linus Pauling. He got into this mega-vitamin C thing where he claimed it does a whole bunch of things. It did not. So just because you are a Nobel Prize winner, not everything that they espouse are correct just on their say-so.

[@IamValak-j9e]

yeah his strainig to do some explaining,

[@emoryogglethorp8180]

​@@queueceeoh yeah I remember the vitamin hyper dosing, dude legitimately got people killed

[@stephenolan5539]

The appeal to authority fallacy is appealing to any authority on any subject. Even if you quoted Einstein on physics. He once said his biggest blinder was the Universal Constant. Since then some physicists have found evidence that he might have been right. So he was either wrong about it or wrong about being wrong about it.

[@jwbjpb1338]

Jacob reminds me of why I am a proud atheist

[@DJH316007]

This caller shows what happens when your brain falls out of your head.

[@hellshade2]

your statement implies that he has a brain...

[@markwoods4439]

It’s called indoctrination they got him when he was young and gullible!

[@vladtheemailer3223]

​@@hellshade2Not anymore.

[@DJH316007]

@@hellshade2 he HAD a brain

[@queuecee]

@@DJH316007 Maybe they should ask Dorothy to get them one. If only they had a brain.

[@scarfhs1]

Jacob will be representing the USA at the Paris Olympics in the mental gymnastics contest.

[@TheTom5150]

What he’s missing is, is that there are natural explanations that don’t require a deity in the equation. If there is no requirement for a deity then it is a fallacy to insert one. Thus the reason for the consensus…Generally what I usually see with any scientist who is also a believer, is that they usually believe because of personal feelings, not because within their field they see a requirement for the insertion of a deity due to there being no natural explanations

[@d_camara]

Scientists that are believers are believers because they've been indoctrinated from childhood by everyone around them, or because they fear hell, just like everyone else. And half of them are worse scientists, while the other half only ever uses this line of thinking for god, and are rational about everything else, just like everyone else. Scientists are humans, turns out, and religion affects them the same way

[@steveyuhas9278]

I like how, as a society, we have collectively, in this VERY SPECIFIC CONTEXT, just sort of accepted that it's normal to even debate about the existence of an individual that no one has actually seen. And not just that, you CAN'T see by design. All these rules and caveats and stipulations for why he can't just appear for a few seconds to confirm himself. It's kind of just downright absurd when you think about it. I know if I were personally making up a story and needed to get people to believe it, this is exactly the kind of thing I'd say to get them to believe it. "Yea he definitely exists! In the book that he had us write through magic, he predicted that some people won't believe it. That's just more evidence he exists. What he wants from you is to believe without knowing he exists, that is the test he made for you. And if you fail, there are eternal BAD consequences so you better be safe and not sorry. " I'm sorry but the whole thing is just absurd. No one would believe today if not for indoctrination. Occams razor really does cut the whole idea of god out of the picture for me, and it doesn't even take much thought. You just have to be willing to be honest.

[@akhnatenpage4854]

And somehow he always needs money. Lmao

[@bestbehave]

And since how can’t handle money

[@einienj3281]

Religious freedom has created problems. I'm not saying it's wrong to have that freedom, it's more of a statement about the bad balance of quality education or lack thereof.

[@hellshade2]

the problem is that to believe in religions and god(s) you have to suspend thought...

[@hellshade2]

@@akhnatenpage4854 all knowing and all powerful just can't seem to handle money!

[@24magiccarrot]

isn't amazing how the rate of god showing up declines at the same rate that our ability to accurately record the event goes up.

[@DrPhilGoode]

No, it’s supernatural. 🤣🤣

[@joshsheridan9511]

If a god shows up, I'd believe it exists. But i would not worship it.

[@quasnof]

What if the God was a sexy moma with big tatas?

[@duncanbryson1167]

If one has solid evidence there's no need for belief. I won't believe anything but I'll accept things based on reason logic and rational arguments.

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

@@quasnof "What if the God was a sexy moma with big tatas?" That's it, I'm signing on. 🍐🍐 Please provide me with the account number for my tithing.

[@quotedotes]

"It's supposed to be full of holes, that's why you need to have faith to believe."

[@Kizzy-qb9si]

If Yahweh showed up, he’d have a lot of questions to answer.

[@Talented3003]

@@Kizzy-qb9si my guy....WHAT! Shoot u betta say dat. His walk in theme song go be 50 Cent's "21 Questions" 🤣😂🤣

[@Kizzy-qb9si]

@@Talented3003 personally, my first question: why choose favorites?

[@Talented3003]

@@Kizzy-qb9si mine would be, what's with the continuous absence

[@mickywinters8451]

“Thou shall not question thy god”. They always have a reply. 😂

[@snowflakemelter1172]

He'll get a smack from me for allowing my parents to die of dementia and lose their dignity, I'll go to hell for it if neccessary.

[@24magiccarrot]

4000 years ago evidence for God, bread from heaven, pillars of fire, splitting large bodies of water. 2000 years ago evidence for God water turning into wine, dead people coming back to life, walking on water Current-day evidence for God:- "Look at the trees" Its weird how all the more miraculous stuff happened before the invention of cameras.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

All relegious miracles are in the past or will happen in the future

[@ianchisholm5756]

I wouldn't go down the 'sacrificing children to a god' route if I were you, mate.

[@rswayne100]

Dying means you don’t come back. If you come back 3 days later you didn’t die!!! 😂

[@oggyoggy1299]

Not strictly true. Dying means you ceased living. If there is a way to reanimate a dead creature then that wouldn’t mean it didn’t die. Can it be done? Don’t know.

[@mistylover7398]

​@@oggyoggy1299 🤨

[@BenChaverin]

​@oggyoggy1299 ...so, what? You can't say "it's possible" without evidence. So far we have a lot of evidence to make it seem very unlikely.

[@abc456f]

​@@oggyoggy1299Has it been done?

[@EdwardGatey]

I had a bad weekend one time, too.

[@williamjohn2910]

My kidney doesn't work, my heart has mummers and I have epilepsy. What a great perfect god Jacob follows.

[@alamunez]

*murmurs

[@abc456f]

Yep. I had a cancerous kidney removed last year. My spine is all messed up. My ears are ringing. God is a crappy designer.

[@johnsperry9494]

“The human body is a perfect creation!” says Ken Hamm, wearing glasses and a hearing aid. And why is it that humans are the only animals that have to wipe themselves after defecating?

[@johnchambers9836]

Poor little god so offended by the mean humans

[@freakishuproar1168]

Indeed. An allegedly omnipotent God struggling to understand why none of the humans he made don't believe in/don't like him.

[@johnchambers9836]

@@freakishuproar1168 maybe we should hold an intervention

[@mistylover7398]

​@@freakishuproar1168 especially 🌳🍎🐍

[@Mkeusquealbby]

​@@freakishuproar1168he's very needy, but he's supposed to be transcendental

[@Sadlander2]

If there was a God, nobody would doubt his existence.

[@DJMaul1031]

14 minutes in and he's offered zero evidence.

[@briancomley8210]

"I have evidence", if he showed up you still wouldn't believe in him". Wow, That's so compelling.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Easy to say when you know it will never happen.

[@MasterSpade]

Another god believer saying that he has "Evidence" for his god... and like all the others, that Evidence is nothing more than = Argument from Ignorance and God of the Gaps.

[@MrBBaron]

If you have enough faith. You don't need facts..theists logic

[@mistylover7398]

Yup lol

[@ricardooppermannpicoral4200]

This is one of the most frustrating forms of discussion of a topic, the one in which a person starts making shit up, pulling wild claims out of the depths of their ass. The caller says that the experts in their fields of knowledge (biology, cosmology...) claim there is evidence in these sciences of a creator. That is just plain outright false. He should be trying to explain how HE interpretates the available knowledge and HE concludes such an evidence, not that OTHERS claim it. It is HE that claims it, not others. Interpretating biologists/cosmologists as if their work shows evidence does NOT mean that THEY said there is evidence. The first is just an opinion, the other is lie.

[@sesme]

He is defending God, a supreme all-powerful entity, and simultaneously defending his own sanity

[@yespub234]

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

[@rikomagic2885]

I love it when callers come in with what they think is perfect evidence to show god exists and are squirming within minutes and trying to move quickly to their next point. Keep up the good work guys and thanks to the Christians for the entertainment

[@oggyoggy1299]

Jacob is about as sharp as a house plant.

[@normkeller2405]

"God manifested himself in the OT."? Really? Is that just part of the story? Maybe the talking donkey and the talking serpent convinced the zombies to tell the story to people who repeated it, to people who repeated it to people who wrote it down?

[@davidreynolds6718]

Gandolf didn't really die either.

[@DiegoJinkusMusic]

Jacob makes a strong case for public education.

[@IamValak-j9e]

it amazes me when xtians claim the ' devil ' is evil when as far as i know the devil has never ordered genoside, according to their book their god has !

[@hellshade2]

compared to the things god has done in te OT or ordered his chosen people to do,the devil is a damn saint!

[@IamValak-j9e]

@@hellshade2 i think the book has it ass backwards just like the religion and its believers

[@Angel-nl1hp]

Based on the bible, the only thing Satan can be accused of is having poor reasoning skills. Which is hardly unique as pretty much every character in the bible is an ignorant buffoon. The only truly evil thing Satan did in the bible was at Yahweh's direct command.

[@IamValak-j9e]

@@Angel-nl1hp yeah, yawehs the real badguy

[@Mkeusquealbby]

The devil has done very little in the bible, his shining moment was the trial of Job, and that was all with god's permission and blessing

[@Grandpa_Boxer]

Imagine having work around or be around Jacob??

[@ronhoek69]

She's the best, love to hear her speak and formulate ideas.

[@antoniom4099]

If Jesus became more powerful, what is the sacrifice?

[@justincredible.]

If evenTracie is getting agitated.....

[@spincube5734]

Doing "pretzel twisting back flips" for Geeezuz !!

[@michaelwright8896]

He never shows up therefore he exists.

[@goldrussh]

Jesus got food poisoning at the Last Supper. He was in a coma that weekend 😂

[@vinnymarchegiano]

Intellectual dishonesty breeds ignorance.

[@finnguy9096]

"A growing number of scientists..." Hmm, please demonstrate that. This is a often heard myth among creationists that has no data to back it up.

[@BeefT-Sq]

"Nothing is given to man automatically, neither knowledge, nor self-confidence, nor inner serenity, nor the right way to use his mind." -Ayn Rand-

[@einienj3281]

If god showed up and proved he was a god, I still don't have to follow god..do I? Free will and all that?

[@petyrkowalski9887]

I wouldnt for sure.

[@akhnatenpage4854]

If the Christian god exists, there would be such a power imbalance that you and I would likely follow him, which makes it all rather immoral.

[@einienj3281]

​@@petyrkowalski9887Same. Not happening. And If god created me into his image, then I am doing exactly what I should be doing by not following god, which would also mean there isn't free will.. it's all bs. 😂

[@einienj3281]

​@@akhnatenpage4854God is already threatening me with hell. God showing up wouldn't change that.

[@akhnatenpage4854]

@@einienj3281 I feel the same. But a lot of people would say different under threat of a gun. A god would be infinitely more threatening you know?

[@justinjones5296]

When I hire someone the first question I ask them is "will you show up??"....why would I hire or trust anyone that says "no, because you won't notice that I'm there..."

[@blumoon131]

This caller really thinks seeing = believing = worship. I can only imagine the scams he has fallen for before and since this call.

[@williamjohn2910]

I've never laughed so much,,,thanks Jacob.

[@brewberry3894]

Why would an omnipotent god manifest in a way that could be disbelieved at all? That's illogical as hell.

[@mikedonoghues4018]

Caller incredulously asks: “Evidence of not showing up is evidence he doesn’t exist?” Yep. Most things that don’t show up into existence don’t show up because they don’t actually exist.

[@billmcdonald4335]

"To be determined later after further research, or upon discovery of new evidence." That could be a legit consensus opinion. It's not applicable to too many situations these days, though. We got a lot of stuff thoroughly figured out. A. Lot.

[@Dorff_Meister]

"You REALLY don't believe in Santa Claus?!!?" "Consensus is your bar?!!?"

[@randylothrop975]

God sacrificed himself to himself for his own glory. But, it wasn't a sacrifice really unless you consider giving up a weekend. Three day sacrifice? Come on Christians, you can do better than that.

[@johnsperry9494]

As Jesus is God, (John 10:30, John 8:54, etc.), Jesus exists from the beginning of time until the end of time, according to the Bible. Out of all that time he had one bad week-end. Not really all that much suffering, huh?

[@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues]

@@johnsperry9494 And not even the whole weekend: sundown Friday to sunrise Sunday. In my younger days, if it was partying Friday night and Saturday night, I was sleeping in most of Sunday.

[@daydays12]

These callers are so painful to listen to The hosts are so polite

[@yolandacroes5491]

Jesus was inconvenienced for a weekend for your sins y’all. In this day and age it actually sounds marvelous to spend a weekend in quiet and seclusion.

[@freakishuproar1168]

What I love about Jacob's argument is that God at some point decided to stop showing up, because even back in the time period described in the Bible not everyone accepted he was a God or otherwise weren't enamoured with him. You know, this allegedly all powerful all _knowing_ deity. Despite being omnipotent and having been the source of creation that set all things in motion, God still had to choose to manifest himself just to see whether or not he'd be universally accepted - almost as if at that time he wasn't sure if humanity would. A very peculiar thing for a supposedly all powerful all _KNOWING_ being to do.

[@garystokes9979]

As always, zero evidence presented. That's a fail.

[@jjkj1526]

I’d sacrifice myself for anything if I knew I’d be resurrected in 3 days😂

[@chrisgrill6302]

If the deal is I get to be God of the universe in magic happyland forever I'll buy the nails.

[@einienj3281]

😂😂😂 Same!

[@BlackDeath920]

Me too.​@@chrisgrill6302

[@dancedecker]

And then BE RULER OF THE UNIVERSE FOREVER. Where do I sign please? 😂 .

[@rchrd0krstng]

Maybe people wouldn't accept him but at least they'll know that he DOES exist. Accepting him or not is a different question!

[@TheMcrico84]

From the moment he dtarted the call you can tell he thought he was going to win then he hit a wall

[@thomasdriscoll6846]

If the field of biology presented a paper proving a creator god it would be on the front page of every newspaper in the world.

[@swannie4762]

Extraordinary that people still believe this nonsense.

[@VictorNieves-o3o]

“They sacrificed their own children, therefore god killed their children.” Make it make sense. An omnipotent all powerful creator couldn’t just save the kids?

[@rcblazer]

What Jacob fails to understand is that his god could appear before everybody in the world really easily today with the rise of TV and the internet, so why not? Still wouldn't worship that god even if it were proven to be real because I disagree with the things that god did in the Bible.

[@itsJPhere]

So if you still don't worship, why should any god bother to show up? It would be pointless if gods want worshipers. I'm not sure your reasoning is too solid there tbh.

[@rcblazer]

@@itsJPhere What does a god need worshippers for anyway? Are their egos that fragile? Doesn't sound like a being worthy of worship to me.

[@itsJPhere]

@@rcblazer Whatever the reason could be is irrelevant as long as it's pointless to show up in the first place.

[@rcblazer]

@@itsJPhere Then it's pointless to worship any god too.

[@hellshade2]

@@itsJPhere god is supposed to be all knowing and all powerful so why would such a creature even need worshippers?

[@nagranoth_]

I don't know why I keep being surprised by how dense and dishonest most callers are...

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

Look at the trees, therefore all creator gods that existed long before Jesus was born!1!!11!1!!!1! /s

[@uknowme1811]

I'm not sure why this powerful Creator would need all these laws in biology and physics if he can break them on a whim.

[@aidenmartin6674]

I’m no Bible expert but did people in the Bible still disbelieve when god showed up, because I thought all the people he showed himself to did believe. They may not have obeyed but they did believe.

[@queuecee]

There's doubting Thomas. He disbelieved, until he got evidence that it wasn't some rando claiming to be Jesus. But for some reason, Christians don't think it's OK to ask for direct evidence.

[@vertigo4236]

It's a lie theists often tell themself, "You wouldn't believe the evidence, because you hate god!" I totally hate Hitler, still I believe he existed.

[@zzcanasta]

I don't think the Romans did...

[@aidenmartin6674]

@@zzcanasta what Romans did God show himself too?

[@joecheffo5942]

This is one of the best. I have never seen so many arguments knocked down so fast in so many ways.

[@neologian1783]

Callers....quick hint.....rapid babbling and talking over the host whenever your own fatally flawed reasoning is pointed out to you does not help your case or improve your position. Try this instead. Pause. Listen. Think. Reflect. Then go back to your drawing board if needs be. But chattering every more rapidly and pouring out additional errors that double down on the original does nothing to help your case.

[@KellyLove36535]

" I have water in my cup. Can u ask this creator to create wine right now?"..lol hilarious 😂

[@bobs182]

What we really need is for trumpets to destroy cities like Jericho so we can save $900 billion on defense spending.

[@Seticzech]

So no evidence... I'm not surprised.

[@tmurphy0919]

On the bright side, Jacob provides a dozen cobblers with enough tap shoes to send their neighborhood to Harvard

[@TrumanSparx]

Is he saying god won’t show up because he’s ashamed?

[@einienj3281]

God should be. It's god that should repent and ask for forgiveness, not us.

[@bestbehave]

No, he’s just sulking

[@einienj3281]

​@@bestbehaveEven worse.

[@oxidize11]

Because we're just so mean to wittle ole gawd

[@Angel-nl1hp]

It's just the theists' standard excuse for presenting no evidence. "You wouldn't accept Jesus anyway!" Of course the funny part is that by doing so they ignore the instructions of their bible which says they are obliged to defend their faith to any challenge.

[@geekuyl6942]

I asked him so many times to show he exists by turning the sky in a green sky with purple polka dots. He never did. 😭

[@IamValak-j9e]

id say a chrsitian blaming non believing scientists because the experts don't except their crap is extremely dis honest

[@5555522255555]

I've had hangovers longer than jesus so called sacrifice...

[@francmittelo6731]

09:08 My brother is a preacher and I used a similar argument against him. I told him that I was the Christian God, and I asked him to prove that I wasn't. Of course he couldn't, because I would give him the Christian objection to every test he asked me to perform. (1) I don't have to answer to anyone. (2) I work in mysterious way. lol

[@corringhamdepot4434]

This dude is as annoying as the man who tells you the car you just bought is a bad car. Then when you ask him for evidence, he tells you some unnamed man in a bar told him it was a bad car. So it must be true.

[@ChristopherGranning-tj3pf]

1000's...even 100's of years ago divinities used to pop up on demand...now one can't even be contacted on the net.... puh-lease...

[@mattwhite7287]

Dont you love it? If i was born 2-4000 years ago, i couldve invited a pantheon of gods to perform at my birthday party. I woulda been the coolest kid. Zeus and thor providing firework shows, apollo and ra making sure its a nice sunny day, and jesus providing the beverages. 😅

[@keaco73]

Their version of God showed up to people back then, and they didn’t fall for it. So now the god of infinite wisdom thinks it’s a better strategy to not show up at all, and that should convince more people?

[@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues]

Well, he tried for 3 whole years. How much effort can you expect a guy to put in? And he only convinced a handful of people. He even died and came back to life, and only a few more believed. So, he did what any frustrated CEO would do: took his golden parachute and left town, leaving the minions to carry on.