The Atheist Experience 26.36 with Matt Dillahunty and Jmike

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@EverythingCameFromNothing
@EverythingCameFromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
Loved watching Jmike destroy Macgruber 😂 I’ll also definitely be using Matt’s “concede the point or defend the position before moving on” idea 🤯
@2ahdcat
@2ahdcat 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber's a tool...
@Counter-Intuitive
@Counter-Intuitive 2 жыл бұрын
Macgruber was spanked and embarrassed. Loved it 😂🤦
@ion-shivs
@ion-shivs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Counter-Intuitive "SWISH!!!" LOL
@Counter-Intuitive
@Counter-Intuitive 2 жыл бұрын
@@ion-shivs 😂
@JarlGrimmToys
@JarlGrimmToys 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed a lot of people make arguments which are rebutted. Then just move onto another argument. Thereby dodging defending their argument against the rebuttal or conceding its flaws. Which is why the panic and become defensive like MacGruber did and they say stuff like “I don’t need to defend it”. At which point they’re conceding that they can defend their argument. Otherwise they would just defend their argument.
@hank_says_things
@hank_says_things 2 жыл бұрын
The presup caller exemplifies why nobody outside their discord servers takes presups seriously: unevidenced declarations that their assessment of an alleged revelation is absolutely perfect, the accusation that anyone not in their little gang is a liar, all delivered with practiced, performative smugness, presumably for an audience of other smug little sophomores. Macgruber was more of a joke than his namesake character.
@acason4
@acason4 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrOttopants No they don’t, it’s laughed at & exposed regularly… 🤦🏼‍♂️ No one that’s honest or versed in philosophy considers presup anything more than fallacious nonsense!
@acason4
@acason4 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrOttopants Flew over my head. My apologies…
@SamIAm-kz4hg
@SamIAm-kz4hg 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this is also how the conspiracy world works. It's the "just hear me out" proposition. "It'll all make sense." Facts aren't about what you think might be true.
@MrMattSax
@MrMattSax 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@CronoXpono
@CronoXpono 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I wish I was recording myself when I figured out “it’s just them saying I HAVE TO BE RIGHT AND I CANT BE WRONG” 😆 I was so fucking angry!
@skepticsinister
@skepticsinister 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Dillahunty has NEVER lost a debate with any goddamn apologist, or Christian theist/apologist, or any Christian anywhere, never lost, instead, he has always handed an apologist/Christian their ass and their god’s ass. That’s official.
@guytheincognito4186
@guytheincognito4186 2 жыл бұрын
That's true but when the vast majority of theist callers are non-sequitors and self defeating presups, it could just aswell be you or me. What we should praise him for is the patience to do this for 17 years. 😄👌
@skepticsinister
@skepticsinister 2 жыл бұрын
@@guytheincognito4186 but the ones that are not of the vast majority, the slick talker, are the ones that Matt Dillahunty can handle with way better precision than I could.
@guytheincognito4186
@guytheincognito4186 2 жыл бұрын
@@skepticsinister I am not in disagreement with that. 👌😁
@sauloftarsus3351
@sauloftarsus3351 2 жыл бұрын
Can't win a debate with a fool.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
@C L Before he patiently explained to the callers what their fallacy is, now he quickly loses patience when caller is fallacious. That doesn't mean Matt actually loses the debate.
@johannesbrahms9528
@johannesbrahms9528 2 жыл бұрын
Matt's face when JMike EXPERTLY calls out Macgruber's bullshit and then asks him the perfect question... Priceless.
@Tienuyan
@Tienuyan 2 жыл бұрын
These comments should have a time stamp otherwise …
@steveanton763
@steveanton763 2 жыл бұрын
Like a proud gather
@mayo8029
@mayo8029 Жыл бұрын
​@舞陽 - Uyan Tien agreed, if people comment about a specific moment in a video there should be a timestamp.
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber's argument is so hilarious. He basically posits the conclusion in his premise 1!🤣 Here, I'll prove that MacGruber has a conjoined twin named Kuato. 1. MacGruber's conjoined twin Kuato is necessary for intelligibility. 2. Intelligibility exists. 3. MacGruber's conjoined twin Kuato exists. *SWISH!*
@myles5158
@myles5158 2 жыл бұрын
Kuato 😂😂😂😂 GIVE THESE PEOPLE AIRRRRR
@Oddball5.0
@Oddball5.0 2 жыл бұрын
Start the reactor
@romankvapil9184
@romankvapil9184 2 жыл бұрын
He's clearly been sticking around with Darth Dawkins.
@HiEv001
@HiEv001 2 жыл бұрын
What you said is equally sound and valid! The fact that his arguments all basically boiled down to "If we assume I'm right, then I'm right," and he was utterly incapable of demonstrating he was right, he merely asserted it, then I have to wonder if that "swish" noise he made was actually him repeating the sound of the wind blowing in the gap between his ears. If you assume the conclusion is true within the premise of your argument (i.e. beg the question), then you can "prove" anything, including mutually exclusive things, which only demonstrates how utterly worthless those types of arguments are at demonstrating anything about reality. Basically, if you're claiming that, in order to prove God is real, you must first _assume_ that God is real, then all you're really saying is that there's no logically valid way to demonstrate that God is real. TL;DR: Presuppositional apologetics = arguments by people who've decided to use a methodology which is inherently invalid.
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 жыл бұрын
Swish or squish? I think that is important, for reasons 🤣🤣🤣
@ElroyMF1
@ElroyMF1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey MacGruber, in my book you totally dominated the smug moron competition. You brought your a-game for that for sure. Actually expressing how you're only waiting your turn to talk? Inspired. Saying atheists ask for clarification to "stalemate" a conversation? Just wow! Congratulations on being the proverbial chess-playing pidgeon.
@Oswlek
@Oswlek 2 жыл бұрын
There should definitely be a Chess Playing Pigeon award, like Potholer's old Golden Crocoduck.
@chilltheheckoutwithava1454
@chilltheheckoutwithava1454 Жыл бұрын
😂 lmao
@Kantilvih
@Kantilvih 2 жыл бұрын
My god is the only linving god! Said the Catholic, the protestant, the JW, the mormon, the baptist, the evangelist, the muslim and many more... How do we tell who really has the only living god? By works? By arguments? By rolling a die and going with it? Whatever religion is locally popular? Richest church? Poorest church? Most strife? Least strife? Persecution? Long living? Latest revelation?
@r0ky_M
@r0ky_M 2 жыл бұрын
Easy; follow the money..😂
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 2 жыл бұрын
Mum told me when I was 2 1/2.
@ResearchThis
@ResearchThis 2 жыл бұрын
Its usually just a side effect of childhood indoctrination, sadly
@fritzhaselnuss7852
@fritzhaselnuss7852 2 жыл бұрын
@@r0ky_M so whoever is the richest is right?
@domecrack
@domecrack 2 жыл бұрын
The right religion is the one you hear about first!
@00Skyfox
@00Skyfox 2 жыл бұрын
What Matt described regarding laying on the trampoline and seeing the moon move around is a phenomenon of the eyes called autokinesis. When looking at a point of light (the moon's a pretty big point but still counts) with no other fixed positional reference to compare it to, the eyes will very slowly start to drift without even knowing it giving the illusion that the point of light is moving. It's even more pronounced when looking at stars or a planet. It's something they teach about in aviation as a hazardous aeromedical factor because while flying at night over a dark area with no lights below (water, wilderness, etc.), if the pilot is focusing on a distant point of light for navigation, autokinesis can make the illusion that the point of light is moving, therefore the illusion that the attitude of the airplane is changing, resulting in the pilot changing pitch, bank, or yaw/course to get the light back in position when it fact it never moved. You can do it too! Just go outside on a starry night and sit there motionless while staring at a star or a distant yard light. After a few seconds it will look like it's very slowly and smoothly drifting around.
@Crabgapple-xv1ti
@Crabgapple-xv1ti 9 ай бұрын
Erik’s story actually Sounded a lot like someone broke into the house, stomping on stairs, a broken lamp, everyone else hearing it, seeing a shadowy human figure? That would be my best explanation for it.
@jeffsims8270
@jeffsims8270 2 жыл бұрын
35:28 - I was just waiting for MaGruber to say "Why won't you take Darth Dawkins call?"
@Locust13
@Locust13 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he definitely spoke like one of those Darth Dawkins fanboys, he had that "I'm not here to debate, I'm here to 'get' matt, harass matt, make Matt angry" mentality. Members of the Darth Dawkins fan club are OBSESSED with Matt.
@jeffsims8270
@jeffsims8270 2 жыл бұрын
@@Locust13 Lol, absolutely!
@GregLopes
@GregLopes 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber was just so, SO excited. You could just tell from the very beginning that he really thought that he was ready to go. Those are the ones who are all the more satisfying to watch get embarrassed. SWISH! So satisfying!
@joecoolioness6399
@joecoolioness6399 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is, he thinks he won. He'll brag to all his friends who are sick of him.
@Bacardi-D
@Bacardi-D 3 ай бұрын
I agree! Even when u completely destroy their argument....it RARELY changes their mind,they just repeat the bad argument over and over.. bc of the brainwashing that happens in church. It literally took me 30 years to start listening to my own gut. Thank God I'm out of that bullshit PUN INTENDED LMFAO
@bk83082
@bk83082 2 жыл бұрын
I think the most ridiculous belief that McGruber holds is that he's funny.
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
1. MacGruber being funny is necessary for intelligibility. 2. MacGruber is not intelligibile. 3. MacGruber is NOT funny. _SWISH!_
@tkat6442
@tkat6442 2 жыл бұрын
@@jquest99 Ha!! And also, since Macgruber isn't funny, I guess intelligibility must not exist!
@tkat6442
@tkat6442 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariociani4918 Well sure, the REAL macgruber on SNL and the movie; not the caller who calls himself that, though!
@corvuscorax7451
@corvuscorax7451 2 жыл бұрын
On the contrary, I found him hilarious! Not in a way he wanted to be, I'm sure, but hilarious nonetheless.
@TheRedwater357
@TheRedwater357 2 жыл бұрын
@@corvuscorax7451 if he's funny for a reason other than how he thinks he is, does that make him right?
@blakewalker84120
@blakewalker84120 2 жыл бұрын
Unicorns exist. It's impossible for unicorns not to exist. This has been revealed in the world around you and also in the Holy Unicorn Scripture. If you don't believe unicorns exist, then you're just suppressing true revelation. Swish!
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
You have to make a formal argument. Premise 1: My invisible magical unicorn is necessary for intelligibility. Premise 2: Intelligibility exists. Conclusion: My invisible magical unicorn exists. And only after you've made this "formal" argument are you allowed to act like a douche and smugly say, "swish!"
@bharathdeva9407
@bharathdeva9407 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@af2313
@af2313 11 ай бұрын
😂
@davidsmith7653
@davidsmith7653 9 ай бұрын
Unicorns are the national animals of Scotland so they must be real.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 7 ай бұрын
When I look around, the feelz I get are consistent with unicorns existing. So...
@ozzietad666
@ozzietad666 2 жыл бұрын
JMIKE is a great host- good example of humanism with rational reason and logic. Attacks the argument without attacking the person. No macho superior dehumanising. Would love to see him on more !
@satyasyasatyasya5746
@satyasyasatyasya5746 2 жыл бұрын
If you like him, he has a show/podcast thing called "Axioms On Trial" :)
@ozzietad666
@ozzietad666 2 жыл бұрын
@@satyasyasatyasya5746 excellent thanks !
@ResearchThis
@ResearchThis 2 жыл бұрын
@@satyasyasatyasya5746 thanks for the info.
@satyasyasatyasya5746
@satyasyasatyasya5746 2 жыл бұрын
@@ozzietad666 You're welcome :)
@satyasyasatyasya5746
@satyasyasatyasya5746 2 жыл бұрын
@@ResearchThis You're welcome :)
@chrispalmer7893
@chrispalmer7893 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the MacGruber call - it beautifully demonstrates everything anyone needs to know about pre-sups. They're over-confident, they hate being interrupted (and yet can't stay silent for five seconds when someone else is talking) and above all else, they have nothing to say. Smugness in inverse proportion to substance.
@micahfoley9572
@micahfoley9572 2 жыл бұрын
smugness is necessary for intelligibility.
@digbycrankshaft7572
@digbycrankshaft7572 8 ай бұрын
​@@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00it's just inverse proportion not direct inverse proportion.
@mayo8029
@mayo8029 5 ай бұрын
I don't know how they can take themselves seriously. No self-awareness.
@dog8398
@dog8398 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Matt all the best in his recovery but on the other hand, life as a pirate doesn't seem too bad. Get well soon mate!
@nulliusverba796
@nulliusverba796 2 жыл бұрын
Re: Aaron (he/him) in IL @ 12:35 ... After hearing Aaron's (non-) defense of his that claim that his version of Catholicism is the only true faith, I'd like Aaron to know that I believe that the Slinky (specifically The Original Slinky Walking Spring Toy) is the best toy ever designed. If Aaron asks me to substantiate my belief, I will reply: Because Slinky walks down stairs ... because Slinky walks alone or in pairs ... because Slinky makes a "Slinkety" sound ... because Slinky is a spring ... and because Slinky is a marvelous thing. And I'll even include a little presuppositional apologetic in "honor" of a subsequent caller and assert (apropos of nothing) that EVERYONE KNOWS it's Slinky.
@ajclements4627
@ajclements4627 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@redwatch.
@redwatch. 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@romankvapil9184
@romankvapil9184 2 жыл бұрын
And you can actually produce evidence of said toy. Both physically, and by records unlike people like Aaron.
@TheDeath138
@TheDeath138 2 жыл бұрын
You should've used Log instead. It has a great jingle and has the same likelihood of his god to exist. Lol
@TBomb39
@TBomb39 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDeath138 From Blammo!
@Mauricio_Magus
@Mauricio_Magus 2 жыл бұрын
Presuppositional apologetics will always be amusing, there's bad arguments and then there's "I'm right because I'm right". Hilarious and an absolutely pathetic attempt at shifting the burden of proof.
@ajclements4627
@ajclements4627 2 жыл бұрын
Festy the Troll is quite good at attempting to shift the BoP.
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
@North Korea Is Second Best Korea What is it, if theists make no claim? I thought the definition of theism was that there is a deity. Do theists not believe in God? So they are positive atheists? I'm confused with the definitions.🤔
@united1990
@united1990 2 жыл бұрын
@North Korea Is Second Best Korea what a ridiculous statement.
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 2 жыл бұрын
@North Korea Is Second Best Korea Theism is a claim and it incurs the burden of proof.
@romankvapil9184
@romankvapil9184 2 жыл бұрын
@North Korea Is Second Best Korea Hi New Hope Enterprise. Got bored of your old account and went to make a new one?
@bingethinker791
@bingethinker791 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber was the perfect name for this indoctrinated fool. He kept getting blown up by his own weak arguments.
@tkat6442
@tkat6442 2 жыл бұрын
And yet he keeps coming back just like a cartoon character, as ridiculous as ever.
@Heathen.Deity.
@Heathen.Deity. 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite argument or claim he made, though nothing to do with a god, was the call screener lie he told. He claims he wasn’t told to not listen to the live stream, gets called out as a liar, repeats his lie again, then immediately says he was just told to mute the stream. Nothing sums this MacCretin up more than that little instalment.
@seanbirch
@seanbirch 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Is the character of MacGruber a religiously indoctrinated fool?
@TBomb39
@TBomb39 2 жыл бұрын
@Rechard Dorkins Welcome to your first day on YT!
@TBomb39
@TBomb39 2 жыл бұрын
@Rechard Dorkins Ooh, there's a lot of that going on. Most people make new accounts after the old ones are terminated. But not you!
@deadpool3982
@deadpool3982 4 ай бұрын
I like how MacGruber proved himself wrong then tried to claim you were bullying him “they didn’t tell me that” to “they told me to mute it…”
@oggyoggy1299
@oggyoggy1299 2 жыл бұрын
MacBooger knows god doesn’t exist, he just chooses to suppress it.
@MrEvanrich
@MrEvanrich 2 жыл бұрын
💀
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 2 жыл бұрын
They all know that gods don't exist. The proof is that none of them would ever believe anyone who tells them that god stopped by their house the other night to talk. If they actually believed a god existed then they would have to concede that there is a chance that a god did stop over.
@therealivydawg
@therealivydawg 2 жыл бұрын
@Rechard Dorkins an ant can detect us and react to us. Not so much for us for a God.
@probablynotmyname8521
@probablynotmyname8521 2 жыл бұрын
I love jmikes analytical approach.
@zilchjustcoffee1643
@zilchjustcoffee1643 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great show. J Mike does a very good job of asking the callers questions to show the fallacies in their arguments. I would like to see JMike and Matt do more shows together.
@R.H160
@R.H160 2 жыл бұрын
1) if I'm right, I'm right. 2) I can't be wrong. It's the impossibility of the contrary. Conclusion: I must be right. I love presupps so much 🤣🤣
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. One time I thought I was wrong, but it turned out I was mistaken.
@HandlingYou
@HandlingYou 2 жыл бұрын
“Swish” Can’t believe the sound his brain makes when thinking can be heard through the phone
@johannesbrahms9528
@johannesbrahms9528 2 жыл бұрын
That's the wind passing in one ear and out the other.
@TheRedwater357
@TheRedwater357 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't "swish" the sound effect when you miss the ball anyway?
@johannesbrahms9528
@johannesbrahms9528 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedwater357 A swish is when you make a basket without hitting the rim or backboard - nothing but net. But in Macgruber's case, it's the outside of the net.
@TheRedwater357
@TheRedwater357 2 жыл бұрын
@@johannesbrahms9528 ah. See, my brain was on baseball terms, where "swish" is used when you swing and miss the ball entirely.
@ResearchThis
@ResearchThis 2 жыл бұрын
The more I listen to Jmike, the more I wish he was my best friend, that I could just shoot the shit with all the time and bounce ideas off of. Lovin' his logic 👍🏻
@scifidad
@scifidad 2 жыл бұрын
And share a bowl in the forest to discover naturalism is true.
@enif_plays
@enif_plays 2 жыл бұрын
I wish he had his own show where he could really dig in on some topics.
@ResearchThis
@ResearchThis 2 жыл бұрын
@@scifidad I would totally be there 😆
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
Macgruber is either a troll or someone who doesn't understand how proofs work.
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 2 жыл бұрын
Both?
@cratonorogen9208
@cratonorogen9208 2 жыл бұрын
Presups are both
@romankvapil9184
@romankvapil9184 2 жыл бұрын
I always find it heartbreaking whenever a caller calls in to defend slavery when they'd honestly admit that it's a horrible thing.
@johnsmith-ju5ns
@johnsmith-ju5ns 2 жыл бұрын
Would you defend killing, torture, raping, plundering, or life imprisonment with mandatory working?...start with killing.
@ianp3112
@ianp3112 2 жыл бұрын
Their indoctrination forbids going against the 'good' book!
@facelessdrone
@facelessdrone 2 жыл бұрын
I find it pathetic rather than heartbreaking, tbh.
@zacharyshort384
@zacharyshort384 2 жыл бұрын
@@facelessdrone insert >Why Not Both< meme.
@ArcadianGenesis
@ArcadianGenesis 2 жыл бұрын
I have a PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience, and I wrote my dissertation on the subject of semantic synesthesia (how ideas and perceptions are interlinked in the mind) - with a specific focus on music cognition. I did some experiments on the "major chords are happy" and "minor chords are sad" metaphors (mentioned by Matt in the last call). I would've loved to talk about that on the air. Maybe someday I could co-host AXP, since I also happen to live in Austin.
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 2 жыл бұрын
I heard there was a secret cord that David played and it pleased the lord, but you don’t care for myths do ya?
@steveanton763
@steveanton763 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayrose8638 There used to be a guitar playing preacher in Sydney who had as part of his schtick presup arguments and the Secret chord from the Bible. He yell about how this chord could bring down angels and banish demons and threaten to play it for ages then play the secret chord and speak in tongues to the angels and demons. He also had a thing for young homeless girls so he was always getting his ass kicked.
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have to work as a screener for seven years, after which you have to do a tour on Non-prophets, their "flagship show".
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 2 жыл бұрын
@@steveanton763 sounds like a real man of the cloth. Spews threats and abuses those that need help. Whenever I think of the song the sex scene in The Watchmen comes to mind.
@steveanton763
@steveanton763 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayrose8638 I love that movie so many good scenes. I think it has the best opening credit scene of any movie. It's not cheap to get a Bob Dylan song in a movie totally worth the money IMO
@murdershedsteve9372
@murdershedsteve9372 2 жыл бұрын
Great job @jmike I knew the day I met you I'd see you on this show. Congrats.
@silverlining2677
@silverlining2677 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly hard for me to tell if a presup really believes what they are saying or if they just enjoy the bullshit that it causes in a conversation. Kinda like people who enjoy pain.
@ahh_yes_mr_bax
@ahh_yes_mr_bax 2 жыл бұрын
The plight of the internet surfer is that trolls and lunatics sound too similar. Presups, flat earthers, anti vaxxers, anti trans, creationists… its almost impossible to tell if someone is trolling or if you really did run into a moron.
@ajclements4627
@ajclements4627 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahh_yes_mr_bax Exactly. Pre internet, they pushed shopping carts and talked to pigeons, now some of them have YT channels… ..and followers.
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like they think that they have somehow conclusive evidence in their "logic" for the evidence of God. And they think that others not accepting their "proof" is not a problem in THEIR argument but rather the problem with the people questioning them. They think it's the others that are being dishonest or disingenuous. They don't think that they have any obligation to prove their claims. Like MacGruber said, God has revealed himself.
@supertouring22
@supertouring22 2 жыл бұрын
@@jquest99 Shouldn't god go on some kind of sex offenders register in that case?
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
@@supertouring22 LOL!!! 🤣🤣🤣 It took me a second to figure out what you were trying to say. 😅 I was dealing with some guy who seem unable to understand scientific explanations but continue to THINK he does. 🙄
@raymonheath1436
@raymonheath1436 4 ай бұрын
Children should not be taught religion until secondary school when they are able to make a reasoned analysis of exactly what they are being taught.
@johnhalladay6101
@johnhalladay6101 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, many times I have scolded you for your shortness of temper towards callers, but this time it was deserved. Nicely done, sir.
@SKY_DWELLER333
@SKY_DWELLER333 2 жыл бұрын
Also my apologies for any grammatical errors or other weirdness in my reply. I am visually impaired and there are currently some accessibility issues when leaving comments on KZbin with the built-in screen reading software on iOS devices.
@bonnieboyz
@bonnieboyz 2 жыл бұрын
Calling into JMike and Matt is like charging between 2 machine gun nests! You have little to no chance of coming out the other end in one piece! Great duo!
@fritzhaselnuss7852
@fritzhaselnuss7852 2 жыл бұрын
and starting with compliments or flattering has next to no effect on Matt (and shouldnt have but I know I m getting kinda disarmed by such strategies)
@joshuaf.3723
@joshuaf.3723 9 ай бұрын
Too bad more people cannot be honest and say: "I experienced something which I and others interpreted as supernatural."
@TBomb39
@TBomb39 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays when someone says they're Catholic, I just shake my head and think, Why?
@_Omega_Weapon
@_Omega_Weapon 2 жыл бұрын
Boys and wine
@greyeyed123
@greyeyed123 2 жыл бұрын
My sense is that very few people understand what they are supposed to believe within their own religion. Years ago I asked a Catholic in youtube comments if they actually thought the wine and crackers actually turned into the blood and flesh of Jesus. They said, "Of course not." I then explained that that is what Catholics believe. She left and came back to explain to me that the "substance" changes, but it cannot be detected in any way (as if I didn't already know this is what Catholics believe--she didn't even know this). On another occasion, I had a Muslim tell me that they believe Jesus died and resurrected. I explained to them that no, Muslims don't believe Jesus died and resurrected. This person argued with me briefly until I quoted, "And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain." Then on the spot they changed their mind about Jesus resurrecting. So bizarre.
@pub652
@pub652 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what i think of any religion..
@joecoolioness6399
@joecoolioness6399 2 жыл бұрын
@@greyeyed123 I asked a xian of over 50 years why he thought god included passages on how to treat slaves in the bible. He had no idea those passages existed. Nor did he know many of the other nasty things that are in that book. You would think that believing a book is your way to learn how to be saved and go to heaven, you would read every word. Instead they rely on another human to interpret it and spoon feed them only the nice parts.
@TBomb39
@TBomb39 2 жыл бұрын
@Gary Allen Excellent point. Coming from a family of still-practicing Catholics, it's disheartening to see them still drinking the flavor-aid.
@virginiafrank317
@virginiafrank317 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, I've watched you for many years, and you constantly amaze me with your patience. You're far more kind and gentle to many of the arrogant callers than I could be.
@TheDragon-v7d
@TheDragon-v7d 2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@owersmenbwroten9813
@owersmenbwroten9813 2 жыл бұрын
Patient for what? Atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. Matt's just another lost & clueless atheist fool w/ ZERO ANSWERS.
@chilltheheckoutwithava1454
@chilltheheckoutwithava1454 Жыл бұрын
MacGruber has so much unfounded hubris it’s fascinating 😂
@ari1234a
@ari1234a 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, i am something of an Atheist myself I ain't afraid of your Yahweh I ain't afraid of your Allah I ain't afraid of your Jesus I ain't afraid of your churches I ain't afraid of your temples I ain't afraid of your praying I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your god.
@sauloftarsus3351
@sauloftarsus3351 2 жыл бұрын
"The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom" ---- King Solomon
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
@@sauloftarsus3351 How is fear of something that doesn't exist wise?
@Julian0101
@Julian0101 2 жыл бұрын
@@sauloftarsus3351 That is a good example of something stupid said by this solomon, Chrissy
@joecoolioness6399
@joecoolioness6399 2 жыл бұрын
@@sauloftarsus3351 so we should fear god and not love and worship him? If he really existed we would fear him, he is a f*cckkking monster.
@cindyweatherly4501
@cindyweatherly4501 2 жыл бұрын
Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot....I'm afraid of what you do with your atheism
@JayCubsGaming
@JayCubsGaming 9 күн бұрын
The call screener DID tell MacGoober not to watch the show while calling and he knows it... He's just suppressing it in his unrighteousness 😂😂😂
@jbnationII
@jbnationII 2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the best show ever. Jmike and Dillihunty. You got the JB Project Approved Champion Bage of Greatness. Hailz to Matt. 😈
@rickywinthrop
@rickywinthrop 5 ай бұрын
Macgruber didnt even really have an argument but somehow thought he won with unsupported assertions repeated over and over and over in a monotone. Such a weird call.
@cypherpunk12
@cypherpunk12 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing more amusing than Matt denying the existence of Jesus while hosting a show with him.
@MrEvanrich
@MrEvanrich 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking more Rasputin than jesus..but close
@cypherpunk12
@cypherpunk12 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrEvanrich I say "well done" to Hagrid from the Harry Potter Series because lost some weight.
@MrEvanrich
@MrEvanrich 2 жыл бұрын
@@cypherpunk12 lol
@kallucelfrumos4946
@kallucelfrumos4946 2 жыл бұрын
time for reCreation! Thanks for the show!
@greyeyed123
@greyeyed123 2 жыл бұрын
"Pizza and Eye Patches" would be a great band name.
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 жыл бұрын
'I'd buy that for a dollar'
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 Жыл бұрын
Pizza P-eye patches.
@user-el2nh5uo1w
@user-el2nh5uo1w 2 жыл бұрын
For as long as I live and have the power of speech, I will never call that thing between Sye and Matt a debate.
@christiandotseth5670
@christiandotseth5670 2 жыл бұрын
Out of all the debates he could've chosen, he chooses that one to say that Matt was destroyed. I'd put Matt's debate with Sye on the same level as the one he had with Ray Comfort, except less funny.
@robotbjorn4952
@robotbjorn4952 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiandotseth5670 Where does Jay Dyer fall on that scale?
@wizardsuth
@wizardsuth 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiandotseth5670 The main difference between those two debates is that Matt showed Bruggencate is an idiot while Comfort is both a liar and an idiot.
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 2 жыл бұрын
James needs a counselor - the only advice you can give to people who are having troublesome conflict with relatives over religion, is to refuse to debate religion. When I have irreconcilable conflicts with friends and relatives, I just tell them - "I am only interested in discussing common ground and comprise" whenever they try to preach, I just repeat my refusal to debate.
@joecoolioness6399
@joecoolioness6399 2 жыл бұрын
I keep a list of some of the nasty passages in the bible and just ask them to go read those and then come back and tell me why they think their gods actions were justifiable. Most of the time they have never even heard of those passages, which goes to show I know more than they do of their own religion. (slavery, offering daughters for rape, selling daughters into slavery, daughters getting their dad drunk and then raping him to get pregnant, the flood that killed millions of people including babies and pregnant women). It is a long list.
@robotbjorn4952
@robotbjorn4952 2 жыл бұрын
He needs today off the hootch
@svenrichtmann6792
@svenrichtmann6792 Жыл бұрын
Energy is a capacity to do work, not a magical cloud of mystery.
@lynettekomidar2819
@lynettekomidar2819 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching this show for over ten years and am still gobsmacked to hear grown adults talk about a god
@tulinfirenze1990
@tulinfirenze1990 2 жыл бұрын
Sky fairy
@trocarcat
@trocarcat 8 ай бұрын
MacGruber just doesn't want to believe in Odin- the one true god as revealed - he just doesn't believe in Norway.
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
Terribly disappointed that they didn't include the clip of Matt singing and dancing "What is Love".
@Selcryn
@Selcryn 2 жыл бұрын
While I agree, it's likely they felt the one time was already too close to a copyright strike.
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Selcryn Ah. Good point. Didnt think about that.
@DadeMurphy666
@DadeMurphy666 10 ай бұрын
32:27 we've asked u to demonstrate that
@TheStupendousMusicMan
@TheStupendousMusicMan 2 жыл бұрын
Aaron loves to go in a merry-go-round every time he calls. His lack of scientific understanding is not evidence for his deity, nor the gaps in our understanding of how life originated. He is not ready for these conversations.
@owersmenbwroten9813
@owersmenbwroten9813 2 жыл бұрын
We "understand" clearly about the origin of life (God). Sorry pal, but life didn't come from any atheist soup.
@TheStupendousMusicMan
@TheStupendousMusicMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@owersmenbwroten9813 Which God? The one you happen to believe in? Besides, the noun "soup" is not described by the adjective "atheistic" in any meaningful nor semantic way whatsoever. Did you make that up? Sorry pal, but none of your statements make any sense, so just bug off.
@chriswebster839
@chriswebster839 2 жыл бұрын
@@owersmenbwroten9813 if that's your description of abiogenesis then you don't actually understand it at all.
@owersmenbwroten9813
@owersmenbwroten9813 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TheStupendousMusicMan "Which God" is not the topic, genius. The topic is how stupid atheism is. No atheist can even start to provide a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. Could you be more lost & clueless? Oh btw, The God of the Bible is the one true God and Jesus is the only one God the Father has ever raised from the dead. There can only be one infinite being: 1. An infinite being lacks nothing. 2. For 2 beings to differ, one has to lack something the other has. 3. A being that lacks something, is not infinite. 4. Therefore, there can only be one infinite being. 5. An ultimate being has no potential, because the potential is maxed out. Therefore, it’s a contradiction to say there can or should be more than one infinite being. That would erroneously state that a finite being is not maxed out potential and another one is needed to reach full potential. 6. To say this infinite being is the Christian G0D, we go into the historical evidence of Jesus and his Word. It is patently obvious there can only be one supernatural first cause/prime mover/God. Now you see, newbie, why I totally dominate this kool aid channel & every atheist in it.
@garycpriestley
@garycpriestley 2 жыл бұрын
I love the 'edit'... that troll's voice was VERY familiar so happy to see them removed from the published video 👏
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
What caller are you referring to?
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
Who was it? I couldn't watch the live show.
@JustArten
@JustArten 2 жыл бұрын
C'mon, who was it? What did they talk about?
@TBomb39
@TBomb39 2 жыл бұрын
@@jquest99 It was this jacka$$ kid named Jaime. He used his minute to clumsily and obviously setup a sophomoric "joke" about Matt's eye and how it could have been injured by Matt's girlfriend. Very crude and mean. Matt very patiently dropped the call, didn't say a word and kept a poker face. So did JMike. Matt then just went to the next call. He's amazing. (JMike too)
@prodprod
@prodprod 2 жыл бұрын
It's also worth noting that throughout the middle ages it was widely believed "within the religious community" that life emerged from non-life on an ongoing basis -- that dust mites emerged from dust, that mice emerged from rotting rags and so on. The idea of "life from non-life" was simply believed to be the way in which the Almighty arranged the natural order -- it was generally believed to be something that happened all the time. That was an idea that wasn't overthrown until the scientific revolution -- so strange to now see the way theists cling to this modern scientific idea as if it embodies some long-standing foundational religious principle -- when, of course, it's nothing of the kind.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Christian can say - if there is God, any magical thing can happen, but if there is no God, then magical thing can't happen. That is something both atheists and Christians agree. So Christian can ask - if there is no God, then life can't magically appear, so how did life start? Only problem with Christians is that they don't understand magic isn't needed for life to start.
@prodprod
@prodprod 2 жыл бұрын
@@goranmilic442 What you say is true, in a sense -- and at a certain point in history, Christians genuinely believed that, indeed, "everything was a miracle. Everything was "magic." The sun rises -- it's a miracle. You let go of an apple and it falls -- it's a miracle. Wheat grows from a wheat stalk rather than corn -- it's a miracle. Every single things that happens or that fails to happen occurs because of the direct conscious hand of God. Period. But over time, theists began to embrace the notion of a sort of "pseudo-natural" cosmos. That is, somewhere after all those miracles at the beginning, God just sort of "wound up" the universe like a great big clock and left it to run on its own -- so that wheat grows, and apples fall and the stars and planets move -- automatically, without needing God's personal and continual miraculous, on-going intervention -- in much the same way that we had started to devise machines that pretty much ran "on their own" without our having to continually operate them. God's miracles were only needed in order to intervene in the otherwise automatic operation of the cosmos. And, in fact, that's pretty much even what fundamentalists believe today -- the universe was set up like a great big automatic machine that can run on it's own -- and the Almighty only intervenes when something special is required. That notion displaced an earlier view, which was pretty much universally held, which is that God's "on-going" hand was required for everything to keep moving. That is, if God blinked, or looked away, the whole cosmos would simply tumble into nothingness. So it's not simply that God could, in principle, bring about on-going abiogenesis, -- obviously, theists believe that God could do anything -- it's really a very different view of God's relationship to the cosmos - one on which he has created a universe that requires "on-going" creation -- he keeps plants growing, keeps creating life, keeps the stars and planets moving, etc. -- and the other in which he started things going, set it on automatic, and only rarely intervenes miraculously, on special occasions -- which is the view that theists hold now.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
@@prodprod OK, I understand and agree with your point. After all, Isaac Newton, a Christian, said gravity exists because of God. But now Christians, as you said, think that gravity exists automatically and God only intervenes when something special needs to happen. Same with life, chemistry etc. I see your point.
@theodorev666
@theodorev666 2 жыл бұрын
@@goranmilic442 I'm an atheist and I disagree with that. Why does magic necessarily have to come from god?
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodorev666 It doesn't. But it can't happen naturally.
@jamescorletta
@jamescorletta 2 жыл бұрын
Macgruber is using circular reasoning. Persup gibberish. Calims without any demonstration. Angry theist is jealous of the atheist.
@ridespirals
@ridespirals 2 жыл бұрын
swish
@alexc836
@alexc836 2 жыл бұрын
And way too smug for his own good.
@miconis123
@miconis123 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the MacGrubers. 'you know the truth but you deny it because you want to sin'. Talk about a tactic to stall the conversation lol
@ari1234a
@ari1234a 2 жыл бұрын
It do not matter if i like sin or even swim in it like Scrooge McDuck in gold coins because sin is dependant on whether i believe in particular god or not. Sin, as I have been told, is against the laws of the gods, and since I do not believe in them, they have no jurisdiction over me.
@TBomb39
@TBomb39 2 жыл бұрын
That's what Runny does. He calls us "God deniers" and insists that we are suppressing a belief. He even made a stupid video about it. Now, he's crying about how he's being picked on.
@miconis123
@miconis123 2 жыл бұрын
@@TBomb39 I've encountered lots of his type and was almost as bad when I was in church. I have a mug that says I'm the world's greatest Dad. If anyone questions me I'm just going to point to the mug as evidence LOL
@phdontknowyet8297
@phdontknowyet8297 2 жыл бұрын
@20:11 Matt says "Cool Thanks Bye" ... Can we please make this a t-shirt?!
@UserBa
@UserBa 2 жыл бұрын
P1: If this argument is true, god is real. P2: this argument is true. C: god is real. good job MacTautology
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
His argument is a bit different than what your put. It is structured as: P1. God is necessary for X. P2. X exists. C: God exists [Obligatory "swish" to demonstrate that you are a smug douche.]
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually even more reducible to: P1: Y is necessary for X [just any claim with no evidence] P2: X exists [may or may not be true] C: Y exists Example: P1: My invisible magic unicorn is necessary for iPhones. P2: iPhones exist C: My invisible magic unicorn exists.
@kl7985
@kl7985 2 жыл бұрын
I think the future of this show lies in Forrest Valkai and Jmike..... between the 2 we have basically everything covered.
@asandiegoguy
@asandiegoguy 2 жыл бұрын
No other host knows the bible like Matt which is how he defeats many theists. But I do like Jmike and Forrest. But Matt will leave very big shoes to fill when he retires.
@TheDragon-v7d
@TheDragon-v7d 2 жыл бұрын
@@asandiegoguy good because Matt’s annoying asf
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 2 жыл бұрын
It was actually kinda funny hearing that McLoser dude try to argue without any evidence whatsoever. His mom forgot to tell him that it was time to grow up.
@ZeroAlligator
@ZeroAlligator 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing a cut in the video when I watch after the fact, it means a troll is crying somewhere lol. 57:54
@thomasweatherford5125
@thomasweatherford5125 2 жыл бұрын
I knew when the guy made his schpeel and ended it with “SWISH” that it’d end up clanking off front iron.
@jeffsims8270
@jeffsims8270 2 жыл бұрын
32:05 - McGruber: I'd rather listen to a fictitious being (that no one in history has ever proved to be true) than to average guy JMike (aka human/sentient being) who actually has some intelligent things to say..
@mikehrabar7999
@mikehrabar7999 2 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, I'm embarrassed this MacGruber guy reports to be from Canada.
@MartinAlix
@MartinAlix 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, that’s as believable as the rest of his argument …😊 You forgot to say sorry btw 🇨🇦
@cullenarthur8879
@cullenarthur8879 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed there seems to be more and more religious zealots and right wing fanatics calling from Canada. What the hell's going on with Canada? You guys were supposed to be the nice, reasonable ones. I guess being in the U.S, i have no place to talk.
@philiplynx6991
@philiplynx6991 2 жыл бұрын
'My book says you think X, you say otherwise, you must be lying since my book can't be wrong' may sound like a good argument to the sort of person who uses it but all it really is is a great way to demonstrate to the other person that the book(or at least that part of it) is wrong by presenting them with a claim that they know is wrong. It's one thing to base an argument on something the other person might not be able to disprove or refute in the moment, another entirely to base it on something they know very well indeed and can confirm or deny on the spot.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
If I say "my book says you think X", you can prove with certainty you don't think X to yourself, but how do you prove you don't think X to me? You can't. That's why it's possible for me to believe you are lying and you actually think X, even if really you don't.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
@@totallyrandomhorror I agree with you.
@philiplynx6991
@philiplynx6991 2 жыл бұрын
@@goranmilic442 Sure but at that point you've not only undermined your own book to the other person you've made clear that further conversation is completely pointless since you've decided that anything the other person says that contradicts what you believe *has* to be a lie, which makes it a total waste of time for that other person to continue talking with you.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
@@philiplynx6991 Yes, that's true. As I said, if I tell you (incorrectly) what you think, you have direct evidence my claims are false. However, as I said, in such case only you would have reason to not believe my claims. I could still believe, you didn't prove it to me. And we could both think further conversation is impossible, since we would both think other person is not telling truth.
@NilesChamberland
@NilesChamberland 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very confused, who removed the video? It must have been Jesus. What else could it have possibly been?
@kidslovesatan34
@kidslovesatan34 2 жыл бұрын
It was a poltergeist.
@jaymorgan7728
@jaymorgan7728 2 жыл бұрын
Odin?
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
That's true, if there's something that we don't know, it's Jesus. That's just science.
@happymaskedguy1943
@happymaskedguy1943 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for James, he sounds like a really nice guy who is stuck with horrible relatives. You can quit drinking if you want to, James. It's more than possible, but it's hard. It's also worth it.
@Steveman27
@Steveman27 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the idea that you can drink, but where you don't let it get out of hand?
@joshuaf.3723
@joshuaf.3723 9 ай бұрын
3rd caller's arguement: "because the bible tells us soooo..." While not understanding evidence, or epistemological reason.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 Күн бұрын
Also callers 1 and 2. And I'm only at 3 now.
@DampeS8N
@DampeS8N 2 жыл бұрын
Re: Erik. Everything he experienced could have _actually_ happened, the hard facts of the situation. Banging, stomping, shaking, a lamp falling, growling and an ashtray flying across the room; and also none of those things had to be supernatural. Things happening and the rationalizations about what those things could have been are different from each other. We don't know what caused those things to happen. Could it have been a demon? I guess. Could it have been his brother stomping around, knocking over the lamp and the ashtray rolled to the other side of the room? Then he lied about doing it, maybe because he didn't want to get in trouble for breaking the lamp. You bet. Which explanation seems more likely? Not saying it _was_ the brother. It could have been the stepfather, screwing with them. Could have been a burglar that heard them and then ran off. It could have been any number of things unexamined. All anyone can say is that they don't know what it was.
@jakubchrobry3701
@jakubchrobry3701 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like water hammer. With a steam radiator heating system, the pipes can bang very loud, if there's a lot of water in the system. This can be a one-off event if a steam trap was stuck closed.
@robotbjorn4952
@robotbjorn4952 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they were playing with a Ouija board. 90% chance it was a demon of some sort.
@loonifer888
@loonifer888 2 жыл бұрын
@@robotbjorn4952 I'd love to see the math you did to come to 90% probability.
@jakubchrobry3701
@jakubchrobry3701 2 жыл бұрын
@Gary Allen Erik is from Michigan, not from the South. Heat is required in Michigan in the winter whether it's snowing or not. Steam heat is very common in older apartment buildings typically found in cities. Water hammer is a term used wherever steam is used, which includes electric power plants in the south. Anyone not familiar with the term could call water hammer "banging pipes." Water hammer could also explain the "growling" in Erik's story. The vibrations from steam pipes banging could also cause the lamp and ashtray to fall from the table.
@sjs1555
@sjs1555 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, please debate Kirk Cameron. I want to see him cry.
@rageofheaven
@rageofheaven 2 жыл бұрын
Cameron won't do it unless someone puts up money.
@sjs1555
@sjs1555 2 жыл бұрын
@@rageofheaven Of course. Just like Jesus.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 Жыл бұрын
In such a debate, Kurt would experience nausea. And assorted growing pains.
@r0ky_M
@r0ky_M 2 жыл бұрын
42:57_ If it manifests in the natural world, what is so super- natural about it?
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 2 жыл бұрын
The theists lack of education.
@Fraterchaoraterchaos
@Fraterchaoraterchaos 2 жыл бұрын
so, I'm a demon, and I have some evil agenda... and the best way I can achieve that is to make some stuff move around in a house of some random people. People, with a devil like that, we are fucked /sarcasm off
@paddlefar9175
@paddlefar9175 2 жыл бұрын
Well it really sucks when the demon take one of each pair of your socks. It’s definitely cause world wide problems. My husband has outsmarted the demon by buying all the exact same socks.
@jazzluvr87
@jazzluvr87 2 жыл бұрын
“Only your stupid book” I laughed out loud 😂😂😂😂
@Steveman27
@Steveman27 2 жыл бұрын
When in the video was that said?
@jazzluvr87
@jazzluvr87 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steveman27 I don’t know, but Matt said it and I nearly died 😂😂
@Steveman27
@Steveman27 2 жыл бұрын
@@jazzluvr87 Thanks anyway.
@tombudd1281
@tombudd1281 2 жыл бұрын
"the only living god" ... So, that implies that there are other gods but they're dead. Which gods does he believe in that are dead? What killed those gods? Is the "only living god" capable of dying? If not, why are the other gods capable of dying but his god isn't? Why are the other gods able to die but his isn't? So many questions ... ;)
@wwlib5390
@wwlib5390 2 жыл бұрын
Tom Budd: Mankind has (almost) always had gods that were not living - wood, stone, metal carved into images and worshipped and offered food or other gifts for promises. Today we have money, work, prestige, power, entertainment and a myriad of other 'highly important and transformative' necessities - all to bring us happiness (they don't) and fulfilled lives (they don't). Jesus, God in flesh, came to bring us true freedom and to fulfill our created purpose - to be holy and blameless before Him. He made the only way possible through John 3 16 - exchanging His perfect life on earth for our sinful, undeserving one. Then He put even death under His feet which He rose from the grave offering all who follow Him to 'follow Him" into His everlasting Kingdom.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
Opposite of "living" isn't "dead". Someone can also never exist and therefore be non-living. I think by living God they mean existing God.
@wwlib5390
@wwlib5390 2 жыл бұрын
​@@goranmilic442 That's an interesting point. I'm not sure to 'never exist' is the same as 'non-living' tho. 'Living' suggests life, now or formerly but never, to my knowledge, never having lived to begin with. I'll have to think some more on that. The opposite of living - or 'alive' - would be technically, not alive or no longer living, and the opposite of dead would be 'formerly alive' or currently living. IMO but thanks for sharing.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
@@wwlib5390 My comment was for above comment, not your, but OK. Is Thor alive? No. That doesn't mean he was alive before.
@wwlib5390
@wwlib5390 2 жыл бұрын
@@goranmilic442 ok. thanks for sharing. Have a good day..
@ajclements4627
@ajclements4627 2 жыл бұрын
Aww, Festy has to repost all his crap again.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Who is Festy?
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
You 2 and ook eek are always filling me in about whacko theists that orbit the community.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you were referring to Fester reloaded. I hadn't seen any of his comments until I got below this one.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
@@ookeekthelibrarianThnx!
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
@@blarglemantheskeptic is that the guy that copycats names like you and ook, or is the copycat a completely different nut bag with a giant list?
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber: "Because the bible tells me so" is a very week argument! Sorry, but your bible isn't the only book that explains stuff like "The meaning of life", the origins of our existence... and even books that aren't even trying to, like comics...! It's all up to whatever mental gymnastics the reader applies to make it fit their agenda.
@oscargordon
@oscargordon 2 жыл бұрын
Erik: Other people saw and heard it too, but none of us had a phone to record it. Edited to add: 30 Years ago!!! Why is it that these haunting stopped happening once we all started carrying around cameras?
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 Жыл бұрын
Ghosts and sasquatch avoid the smell of phones.
@triplejudy
@triplejudy 2 жыл бұрын
As an outspoken atheist, I've often wondered why religion makes people assert such absurd, delusional, stupid things! The first caller was a classic example of this.
@allisthemoist2244
@allisthemoist2244 2 жыл бұрын
At least slightly learn what your talking about before commenting. There are multiple kinds of causes, not just the a-b-c kinds. For example. Is a statue on a building because of a quarry, sculpture, and crane? or is it there for decoration? Obviously the answer is neither because one is the a-b-c cause, and the other is the narrative cause. God ain't some scientific cause, you won't find him in the universes a-b-c's, yet people think this is something against his existence because they hear protestants insisting you'll find him in the universes a-b-c causes.
@triplejudy
@triplejudy 2 жыл бұрын
@@allisthemoist2244 I worship sixteen blue and pink winged fairies that fly out of my closet every morning at 6:22. I have a deep faith in them. My fairies talk to me and they: • answer my prayers • perform miracles, • fly through brick walls, • promise me eternity in “fairyland” after my death • are able to create a universe out of my “Reeboks.” • are able to resurrect and fly into the clouds after being dead for weeks and • turn my ice tea into a fine lager. Most importantly, they are written in chapter three of my Holy Book “Good News from the Closet Fairies,” authored centuries ago by their disciples {John, Paul, George and Ringo}. Do you believe in the “holy fairies?”
@allisthemoist2244
@allisthemoist2244 2 жыл бұрын
@@triplejudy well. Do you use those sentences the same way a modern person would? Because if not, they might be a certain way of describing something about reality. For example, are you describing a situation where the right frame of mind makes your ice tea taste good as fine wine? Or are you being completely symbolic like the Bible and going way farther than that? I assume there's a no to all of those. People assume we can look back, and read those sentences as if Dave from accounting told us them. Ancient people didn't think like we moderns do. They hadn't incorporated many modern thinking tools into their cognition, and we have to first acknowledge that before we even begin to unpack what the hell things like eternal life are actually about.
@allisthemoist2244
@allisthemoist2244 2 жыл бұрын
@@triplejudy the culture affects what we use words to mean, and how we use them. You think 2000 years can pass, and the first thing people think of when they hear accounts from religions is what they were trying to say?
@triplejudy
@triplejudy 2 жыл бұрын
@@allisthemoist2244 You haven't answered my question. Do you believe my the holy fairies?
@simonbaker6962
@simonbaker6962 2 жыл бұрын
As a man limited in the follicle department my envy of Jmike knows no bounds.
@homerj.simpson7562
@homerj.simpson7562 2 жыл бұрын
Your words just reminded me about the term "follically challenged", which gave me a good chuckle.
@jerklecirque138
@jerklecirque138 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber is an obvious troll. It's a testament to how ridiculous the presup line is that a troll sounds so much like a genuine proponent.
@colaboytje
@colaboytje 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. That is just Sye Ten, Matt Slick, Darth Dawkins, and a gigantic amount of discord servers.... They actually believe that. That is being a presup. You can't argue with them because their first premise is their conclusion. They start with the conclusion in the premise.
@durrutti
@durrutti 2 жыл бұрын
Man, these presups are getting worse and worse. His argument is basically “ I know that God is true, and so do you”. Where did he imagine the conversation would go after that? There can be none. It would basically be : -no I don’t - yes you do - no I don’t - yes you do - no I don’t ..for eternity. Is that a good conversation? Would it convince anybody? No, of course not.
@fritzhaselnuss7852
@fritzhaselnuss7852 2 жыл бұрын
sure but Mikes reply still surprised me. I mean yeah, apply the same kind of logic....I dont know so God isnt real. Its just the people who say he is that are delusional disregarding reality.
@xozegraf7179
@xozegraf7179 2 жыл бұрын
When what you believe becomes too difficult to understand or explain, you probably shouldn't believe it.
@susanrobertson984
@susanrobertson984 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber - genuinely has no idea how to respond when someone genuinely pushes back. Apparently nobody ever has.
@MPM6785ChitChat
@MPM6785ChitChat 2 жыл бұрын
Babies are born without religion. Babies develop to infants who learn to speak the language(s) that they are exposed to - l've met 4yr olds who can communicate in 3 languages due to the parents and grandparents having different nationalities. The cultural environment is imbued according to what the child is exposed to etc... My mother was a Roman Catholic and my Father was a Budist - neither parent ever imposed their beliefs upon any of their children. I went to Catholic schools ( some of the teachers were nuns and priests), but was a Non Believer in any of the available gods - l enjoyed books and films with various mythologies. By the time l was 12, l discovered the difference between the terms Agnostic and Atheist so realised that l was the latter . Twins that were separated and adopted by different families - regardless of their opposite environments, still retain the same predisposition to personality traits such as being prone to depression , extrovertion etc regardless to the adopted family's financial or other different circumstances . Studies show that the religion or lack of it, is therefore acquired.
@vincentdeporter3140
@vincentdeporter3140 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber... how was God's Revelation delivered to you? Writings of men that made claims. So your presupposition means you need to trust the writers before believing their claims.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
*anonymous men
@vincentdeporter3140
@vincentdeporter3140 2 жыл бұрын
@@88mphDrBrown yes indeed!
@JayBandersnatch
@JayBandersnatch 2 жыл бұрын
"Life EXCLUSIVELY comes from life"... My God is the LIVING God... My God didn't come from life???
@fritzhaselnuss7852
@fritzhaselnuss7852 2 жыл бұрын
"its cool that you are so open about your mental condition" :)
@JayBandersnatch
@JayBandersnatch 2 жыл бұрын
@@fritzhaselnuss7852 do you purposely make random comments just to troll or do you have something productive to add?
@paddlefar9175
@paddlefar9175 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayBandersnatch Fritz is on the fritz.
@thaliagrashuis
@thaliagrashuis Жыл бұрын
​@@JayBandersnatch 9 p
@MPM6785ChitChat
@MPM6785ChitChat 2 жыл бұрын
There's no excuse for people in our modern / contemporary times to not be able to qualify ( not justify ) the reasonings for what they believe. Exception only for countries where natives have no access to food etc, let alone the privilege of education and basic information. With information at your disposal to enquire the validity of everything that you've ever been taught, learnt or indoctrinated with in every aspect of your knowledge.
@MartinAlix
@MartinAlix 2 жыл бұрын
More worrisome is that those same people have the right to vote…
@joecoolioness6399
@joecoolioness6399 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless, you should know what makes you believe anything, even if it is just that someone told you.
@SleepyMatt-zzz
@SleepyMatt-zzz Жыл бұрын
I wish religious folks would realize that circular arguments and rhetorical claims are not evidence that god exists.
@austridge31
@austridge31 2 жыл бұрын
Thats one shocking case of pink eye Matt has there!
@bjornbraaten4593
@bjornbraaten4593 2 жыл бұрын
Matt singing a line of ‘let it go’ had me near tears. I have a 7 yr old & he/his friends/our family/I have sung that line (sometimes more lines) about a million times. It was timely, appropriate & probably more hilarious for me than the average audience member. Sometimes a moment gives you more joy than you expected.
@dirkschmid1045
@dirkschmid1045 2 жыл бұрын
My day at work today was 9 hours of non-stop dumb, weird behaviour from customers, and now I’ve only listened to the first 20 minutes of the show so far and been unable to say anything but “What the f**k ??” in response to the first callers today. If someone could explain to me what exactly it is that most people are smoking nowadays, I’d genuinely love to know… 🤷‍♂️🙄 Or are people nowadays just nothing but a bunch of nutters ??
@Tina-qn6pq
@Tina-qn6pq 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber is so arrogant!
@jquest99
@jquest99 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if you were able to provide the definitive proof of God that no one else has been able to for so long AND be able to put in a "swish" at the end, you would be arrogant as well! Don't you remember Einstein and his immortal, "E equals MC squared, biatchhheesss! Swish!"
@Number0neSon
@Number0neSon 2 жыл бұрын
The more I hear Pre-Sups, the more I'm convinced they gravitate to that doctrine purely for the _"Gotcha, Bitch!"_ while insisting they're doing it purely out of love, lol.
@kevycanavan
@kevycanavan 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. First time tuning in in years and half expected Matt to be more chill now. Boy was I wrong.
@cygnus_x1227
@cygnus_x1227 2 жыл бұрын
The show is no longer about normalizing Atheists, or de stigmatizing Atheism. It’s about dunking on religious people and feeling superior afterward. Read the comments of any AE video and you will see what I mean. I’m an Atheist and follow the show, but I worry that it actually hurts our cause more than helping it advance.
@ResearchThis
@ResearchThis 2 жыл бұрын
Breath isn't alive, clay isn't alive. Isn't the Adam story kinda abiogenesis? 🤔
@ResearchThis
@ResearchThis 2 жыл бұрын
@@blarglemantheskeptic even if God was alive, that doesn't make breath alive. His breathe wouldn't be alive. His farts wouldn't be alive, right?
@ResearchThis
@ResearchThis 2 жыл бұрын
If God sat on a beach and farted would men pop up from the sand? 🤣
@charliecoley2423
@charliecoley2423 2 жыл бұрын
Nice show Guys
@smochygrice465
@smochygrice465 2 жыл бұрын
JM & MD duo 🤘✊ Fantastic content as always 😝 Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🥰
@smochygrice465
@smochygrice465 2 жыл бұрын
@Rebel Son 😂🤣😂 That or the Tassie Devil 👹
@SnareRushJunkie
@SnareRushJunkie 2 жыл бұрын
@Rebel Son bringing that Christian love as always. But sure, atheists are the angry ones.
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 2 жыл бұрын
@Rebel Son There once was a Rebel Son Who had a Tinder dry run Obssessed with the gender of others Calling his sistas "brothers" As the blanks shot out of his luv gun!
@TBomb39
@TBomb39 2 жыл бұрын
@@holgerlubotzki3469 👍
@romankvapil9184
@romankvapil9184 2 жыл бұрын
@@ookeekthelibrarian As if Australia couldn't become more of a venom-laden hellscape.
@guytheincognito4186
@guytheincognito4186 2 жыл бұрын
"I believe it so I said it. I said it so it must be true. I said it's true, so that proves it. Therefore I have proven it. So now it has been proven and you have to believe it." -Swan song of the presuppositionist.
@seanbirch
@seanbirch 2 жыл бұрын
MacGruber has been quite the height of entertainment in a long while :D
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