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[@PaulOrong]

I am 62 years old male - 9.2 handicap. I still play an R15 TaylorMade Driver, changed my golf shaft to actually a cheaper Grafalloy shaft ($42.00USD) vs the Fujikura ($150+ shaft) and gained about 12-15 yds and improved my consistency of strike. I currently carry my drives about 250 yds on average with about 10-20 yds of roll. So I agree that nothing this year was a game changer for me on the longer end of my bag. But I did add into my bag a new set of Edison Wedges. These wedges helped me tighten my distance control (carry) because they are more forgiving on slightly mishits - which keeps me out of bunkers or water in the front of the green. Also this has also led to much closer shots to the pin. I did also test out the Cleveland wedges but it did not have as tight a dispersion on distance carried as the Edison Wedges. Also they did not feel as good as the Edison Wedges. It makes sense - since these are commonly referred to as "Scoring Irons" that you should be using more forgiving wedges to minimize your misses and maximize your scoring opportunities. Now next on my list is a new putter.

[@curtchaffee]

Playing CBX2 wedges. Standing closer to ball and like you, not rushing to the ball with club head. Has cured my chip shanks.

[@bobsanders8030]

Good advice. Even Bob Vokey said there is no such thing as too much bounce for amateurs. I use a 56 with 14'.

[@richesquibel3276]

Hello I am 62 years old, I have a Maverik 9:31 driver I truly enjoy 3 through 9 wood, 6 hybrid through approach wedge. I play an old alien Sand wedge that I enjoy and know everything about. happy with my setup it works the best for me.😊

[@markryan2896]

53yr old, 8hcp Cobra F9 driver Cobra Fly Z 5 wood 3-5 Taylormade DHY Cleveland Halo 5iron Wilson staff V6 forged 6-P irons (tinkering with Cleveland UHX irons for a bit of fun) Wedges are still being refined and these wedges are in consideration. If the club preforms to what I need then I don’t care what they look like, as long as they perform. Great topic Andy, keep ‘em coming 🤘🏻🇦🇺

[@JP1970]

This is excellent advice...I was chasing the longer clubs at the top of my bag, thinking I needed something besides my 5 & 7 Halo xl FW's, but then I realized new wedges were what I really needed. I now have Cleveland CBX wedges 52, 56, and 60 and am so glad I focused on the short end of my bag--much better idea--great clubs from Cleveland! Thanks for the video.

[@richardmanion6132]

I have Tour Edge C523 irons (game improvement) and Cleveland CBX wedges (48/54/60). I am PROUD of my wedge control, and these wedges are so easy to strike and manipulate. I've recently put my old Cleveland HB Launcher (2014) driver in the bag while my Paradym Triple Diamond is getting a new shaft built, and it did so well at the range that I might sell the Paradym. We're in an age of diminishing returns on new gear, and my bag validates that for me.

[@Dan_BCtoAZ]

I’m 55 years old, a 7.9 index…I play the Callaway CB X Forged irons. I agree with you 100%, I change my driver shaft on occasion but my biggest improvement came from adding Titleist Vokey wedges with a bunch of bounce on them. I play a 60° K grind vokey with 14 degrees of bounce and a 54° D grind vokey with 12 degrees of bounce….game changer, for me.

[@rickcudmore8156]

I have PXG 0211 DC irons 6-GW and 52* & 58* CBX2 wedges. I play about 70-75 rounds of golf a year and I usually change my wedges every 3 years.

[@lucmarcogliese]

This year i have a new club in the bag.. Taylormade BURNER mini driver it is amazing Best buy to improve my game and it look and fell so good it is a fairway finder and i nailed it from the deck

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Yep I agree

[@golf94srm]

I also added this club to may bag to replace my 3 wood SIM2 max , great club!

[@jiml9062]

71, 6 handicap, Vokey 60°, 12° bounce, got sooooooooooooo tired of compacted bunkers where the bounce was ineffective resulting in thinning shots (no, not technique, I have a great short game which maintains my low handicap at 71). Just put the new 4° ‘T’ Grind Vokey in the bag, and it is absolutely fantastic, takes me back years to when it was more skill than modern engineering. It just cuts through compacted sand, brushes the grass for high flop shots, seriously, go try one, and I am not a ‘golf snob’ but you do need a bit of short game golfing ability. Watch Seve’s ‘Short Game Video’, set in Dubai, best teaching video EVER. Best wedge yet that Vokey has produced.

[@gordonmckay914]

I have the CBX wedges. 52° and the 56° wedge. Have had them for 3 years now.

[@brucevanwyk3257]

You got it right about the short game!! In my opinion that is where you gain or lose the most strokes. Thanks for sharing your insight.

[@alancleaver6988]

A couple of years back, I did what everyone did: I bought 5-PW Taylormade Stealth Irons and a set of fitted wedges. I have no doubt that the wedges if I were to practice enough, would be great. But I now have four clubs in the bottom of the bag that look and feel pretty different. I've struggled with distance control ever since. This season, I've completed my iron set with eBay purchases. I now have 5-SW of Stealth irons. I stand over them now and because they all look similar, I seem to be able to get the distance control spot on. Massive game changer for me. I still wish I could putt!

[@dangardner7904]

I'm the guy you spoke about: cavity back irons, blade wedges. I struggled all season with my wedges this year. I want to have fun playing golf. So I'll be trading my blades for cavity back wedges with a lightweight graphite shaft next year. I'm 70 years old. Also plan to spend more practice time on shots from 50yds and in.

[@jimijenkins2548]

I have all the Cleveland smart sole wedges in my bag...couldn't be happier.

[@allahalibaba9063]

Nice.. I game CB irons and bought a set of Mizuno S 23 wedges after that review you gave....Even with out trying them...Not something I do often but if you praised them, then I went for it...Also I was planing on get a set of Mizuno 245 irons to go with them...Thanks for your imput...

[@brianmort]

Agree Andy, I had ping glide wedges with fitted shafts and wow what a difference to 100yds in and chipping!

[@Simplycomfortfood]

When I first started playing golf at the age of 14, I would go to the local course on a Saturday morning and carry clubs for members. I remember one gentleman took the time to invest in me by asking me about my aspirations for the game of golf. I explained that I wanted to learn to play. He gave me one piece of advice. He said the game is not won on the tee box but around the green. He promised that if I would practice 75% on putting and chipping and the rest on my driver and irons, I would be a good and consistent player. With all that said, I wasn't that disciplined, and my short game isn't what it could be. Equipment is the key. Just as you said Andy, I have an old set of secondhand Volkes, 50 degree and 56 degree. My irons are outdated, 2008 Big Bertha irons and they were also secondhand from Ebay. 67 years old, 19 handicap, iron clubhead speed about 65 mph, so a full bag fitting is in my near future. Christmas can't come soon enough. Love the channel.

[@KCChief_19]

Completely agree about cavity back wedges. Changed mine last year to Mack Daddy CB wedges and transformed my short game. They get the ball airborne easier and I am far less prone to thinning it through the green!

[@sisleymichael]

I have two old Maltby wedges, a 56 Sand Slider, and a 60 Lob slider. Big, wide sole, super easy to learn distances. I have spares in my shop for assembly when these are worn out. You can stop the ball like crazy. For a lot of chipping, I use toe down chipping up to 7 iron. It works well. I use a putting stroke and choke down on them. My irons are also Maltby, 851s. They do not make them any more. Super wide sole. Hard to work the ball, but they go straight. Love them. I'm 65, and 12 handicap. 3W is my driver, 41.5" shaft. Then 5W, 7W, 9W, 11W.

[@robchisholm2697]

Already have them in the bag so it's an automatic thumbs up from me😊

[@J2P4J]

Just purchased a Smart Sole Full Face GW. My chipping has been terrible. Thought I would give this club a go. Great video Andy.

[@gailevans6765]

Agree Andy, I changed to Ping Glide wedges 50, 54 and 58 degree loft about 3 years ago as I also play cavity back irons. I didn’t really notice any difference around the green but on full shots they’re so much more forgiving than the blade type premium wedges. I have just now changed back to a Cleveland zipcore raw 58 degree as I do like the little better feel on the delicate little shots and lobs around the green, but the 50 and 54 degree are staying.

[@dpmiam]

The Cleveland SmartSole line is also very forgiving. Great video.

[@keithrafferty2060]

Honestly, I was thinking the same thing just today. My wedges are T.V's and I'm not good enough to use them. Time to try a bigger sole like my irons. Thank you :)

[@golf94srm]

67 old, I have two sets of irons, first one is a Mizuno JPX923 Hot Metal Pro KBS lite shafts with the help of 3 wedges (SM9 -48°, Cleveland RTX588-52° and SM9 K sole 58°); my second set is an old Ben Hoggan graphite shaft FTX from 4 down to F wedge that I complete with the SM9-58°. I tend to be tired after 12 holes with the Mizuno set and find to be more competitive with the Ben Hoggan set. The SM9-58° is really a great wedge for bunkers and strong roughs.

[@brettcornelison2599]

Great advice. I just had my first wedge fitting and I was shocked how they all played so differently. I think the key is to get fit, but make sure to try some of the more forgiving wedges like the CBX4 during your fitting. I was playing CBX Zipcore wedges, but fit into Taylormade MG4 wedges.

[@billfrohberg3206]

I'm 71, a 12 handicap. Can't hit a driver to save my life, tried everything - loft, shafts. My old Cobra 3 wood set to 13.5 degrees can't be beat. A little short, but I'm in the fairway, and know how to play 5 wood and hybrids to make up the distance. Plus I won't spend $600 on a club I can't hit.

[@ariesclaw8623]

Could agree more. Bought the 58 ‘sure out’ wedge and haven’t looked back. Not going to win any beauty comps - but rarely duff

[@grahamwild-rh3hl]

Been fit for Ping I530 then got a ping S159 wedges with same shaft as irons and made a massive difference. Consistent shaft flex does help and handicap dropped from 10 to 8 now.

[@davidmbarr9255]

Cleveland HB Launchers AND CBX wedges. Great forgiving combo.

[@rushfanjames2112]

I still play the titleist 905r in 8.5° Nice solid feel with a lotta pop left. My “newest” driver is the Taylormade M6 driver. I also have the CBX wedge set. Great wedges.

[@GONADSable]

Great advice Andy as Usual Thanks

[@MMcG25]

I just switched to super game improvement hollowbody irons. I just need to adjust to the offset on these new to me irons. I use an old Lynx Parallax PW as my Gap Wedge and the Parallax SW and I'm looking at these Wide sole wedges from Cleveland. Timely video!

[@grandiebob2500]

I swapped my Ping Groove wedges for CBX4 48/54/60 a few weeks ago and highly recommend them.

[@simonedge42]

I would recommend the Cobra Snakebite wedges. They don’t seem to get the airtime of the others but give plenty of forgiveness around the greens for a high handicapper

[@randallpennington5976]

The only club I am considering is the LAB putter. Might as well try the club that is used the most!

[@daveweedall4505]

I game callaway Apex 19 irons with recoil graphite shafts. I've been considering cleveland wedges for 18 month's or so now and i think you may have convinced me now. Loving the channel bud . Cheers

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Give them a try and let me know your thoughts

[@stacylolley]

Mizuno S-23 wedges have been an absolute God-send for my game. I can't brag on them enough. I would say they are similar in style to the CBX. Both would be a dramatic improvement for the average person over the blade style wedges in terms of ease of use and confidence.

[@Bahanaman75]

Well Andy, ZX7 mk 1 irons in the bag with Cleveland zipcore 4 wedges with 10⁰ bounce. Love them. Despite being forged, the irons have a bit of a cavity and are quite forgiving. The wedges don't have the cavity but are still forgiving enough. I'd be interested in trying out the cbx though.

[@vkar4992]

Cleveland XL Launcher irons and Cobra Snakebite X 52 and 56 wedges to match the game improvement irons. Have also got a a 58 Cobra Snakebite wedge in 8 degree bounce as prefer it for tighter lies, especially in the summer, and in bunkers. Really like the Snakebite X’s with their full face grooves but with a slightly more compact look compared to the Cleveland CBX Zipcores I tried out last year.

[@malfor007]

Gaming Mizuno Pro 225 irons. Use a Cleveland Smart Sole-S for primarily bunker shots. It’s huge and so easy to use out of bunkers. Also game a Ping ChipR. Both of these short irons have saved me many strokes. Won’t change my set up.

[@CraigSmith-d8y]

I’m a 11 handicap and game T150 irons and MG4 wedges

[@samuelcollie2050]

I have direct to consumer Sub70 irons but I bought a Cleveland XL 7 iron to test. I have 2 Cleveland CBX wedges, 52 and 56, and an older Ping 54 degree. I love the Cleveland wedges! I am a senior, higher handicap now that I hit it shorter! I have a Tour Edge driver and 4 wood which are good clubs for the money. I play A flex shafts generally.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Thanks for sharing

[@rufussthoo4083]

I'm not the target audience for this video, but I agree wholeheartedly with your wisdom on this one, And. If only I could convince my mates to park their egos, they could drop at least 5 strokes off the handicaps 🙄

[@nwluce1]

QI DRIVER, STEALTH 2+ 5WOOD, 3 PDHY Driving ironTMP770S 4-A, Cleveland rtx6 54 and 58 . I had those cbx wedges, they are great when you need the extra help and confidence. But I love my rtx6 blades

[@CatNash007]

Agree with you on the Drivers…it’s out of control. How much more improvement can there be? It’s all marketing at this point.

[@garryedser9338]

I have been using the Callaway Sure Out wedges since they came out. Now on the 2.0 version. They are not just for hackers. I am a 64 year old 7 marker. My other wedges are also the very forgiving cb Callaway wedges. I wont be going back to the Mack Daddies any time soon.

[@davidcunningham8348]

Got clevelandsmart sole chipper and full face smart sole sand wedge these wedges r amazing need to be tried

[@louiepup1982]

Thanks, love your content and i feel the need to switch from vokeys, this maybe the way forward.

[@briancatt7813]

I use player's distance irons and blade wedges. I should use game improvement throughout, but, damn, what I have now sure is pretty :D

[@andynaz5631]

I play a TM M2 2017, and a set of Yonex N1-CBs 5-P, wedges are 50° Cobra Forged CB, which is money, an old 56° Cleveland 485 RTG wedge, more money, and a fool proof Solus 61° which is too easy around the greens.

[@craig3775]

I play traditional blades 3-PW I play off 3 on a UK links course so all normal here

[@alainsimon3]

I play wegdes VEGA 58 54 50 with griphite.and irons mizar plus until 7

[@kieranocallaghan8197]

I've got Ping G irons 5-PW for a few years. They're obviously GI irons for a 15/16 HI golfer. However I had 2 vokey wedges at the top end which were beautiful forged clubs and were great when I pured the strike but overall delivered very inconsistent results where it mattered most.. I watched one of your videos a few years back where you first raised the issue of ave golfers with cavity back irons mistakenly using "fancy" blade type wedges to the detriment of our short game and ability to score. In that video you tested and recommended Cleveland CBX2 cavity back wedges. Your video content made perfect sense to me to the extent that I bought the CBX2 wedges to replace the fancy vokeys. Probably the best equipment decision I ever made as the consistency of my wedge play has significantly improved.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

That’s so good to read and that they have worked for you 🙏

[@kieranocallaghan8197]

@@TheAverageGolfer BTW based on an equipment video you did late last year I got a Ping G430 7 wood from Santa and put my ego and 4 iron in the bin. Another smart decision you influenced ..... ego doesn't make one's golf easier !

[@TheAverageGolfer]

it is so pleasing that any suggestion has helped in some way

[@ariesnc6320]

I love my pxg forged wedges.

[@patrickgilmour9826]

Mizuno 225 pro mizuno t24 54/58 I’ve used a lot over the years but they are soft feeling which I like

[@DonAl9114]

Hello Andy , yes we should focus more on the shorter game. 😊😊😊

[@jimorr3252]

Hi Andy, hope everything‘s going well for you. I play Ping G430 irons and my wedges are Cleveland CBX full-face 2, good solid wedges, and I’ve enjoyed them a lot.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

@@jimorr3252 they are very underrated

[@psv998]

I am using Thomas golfclubs for irons 7 8 and 9. They suit my shallow golfswing. I have never seen them in a YT review.Maybe you could be the first.

[@mrvxg4820]

I love my Kirkland wedges.

[@2bNIKEt1]

I love the look and hope the feel is okay. They’re just too bulky to be delicate for me. What I’m looking for is CBX4 tech in a smaller shape.

[@jonhickey8581]

Great video, really useful. I already have a couple of CBX1 and CBX2 Wedges but wonder if it’s worth upgrading to the latest version? As always Cleveland always seem to be such an underrated brand 🤔

[@PeterNaidoo-kx1zd]

I just replaced my set of four CBX2 wedges with CBX4 and they are superb. Absolutely no regrets. Greetings from New Zealand 😅

[@nigelfrancis6350]

Played different sets of irons but always played cleveland RTX wedges but moved to the CBX when they came out. Playing Srixon ZX5 irons but gradually moving back to the RTX wedges.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

What is the reason for moving back?

[@nigelfrancis6350]

@@TheAverageGolfer Bought a new Z785 Approach Wedge which is very blade like and use it a lot. Purchased a 58 Rtx zipcore full face and also use it a lot. Never had a problem with Rtx wedges, only went to CBX wedges when I went to cavity back irons.

[@justinstephenson9360]

i210 irons and Mizuno S18 wedges - wedges are getting a bit old so due for a replacement but at the time were the more forgiving wedge in Mizuno's line up. I carry a 50, 54 & 58 degree wedges. I do think that a good custom fit is essential for wedges. For most players who carry 2 or 3 specialist wedges, each wedge does a different job and therefore there is no need for all the wedges in your bag being the same model.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Really good point on having a variety of differing styles of wedges 👏

[@danamcqueen6982]

Ben Hogan PTx irons and Hogan Equalizer wedges (50, 56).

[@suringhelani5218]

I am in the market for a new driver but not anymore. So glad I saw this video. You have nailed the issue I have. I’ll spend about $400 Aussie dollars on a second hand driver and get one of these wedges. We focus way too often on our long games rather than what is the most important . So Thank You for posting this you have opened my eyes to a better more beneficial option🙏🏽🏌️

[@markhilton4920]

Irons i500s but retro lofts (7 is 34 degrees) have 2 cbx 2s in my bag a 54 and 58 cracking wedges also have an old sm6 48 degrees which just suits me

[@andybt3989]

Currently game G400 irons. Might switch in the winter to i530. My wedges are G400 P, G, S. vokey L.

[@samuelpowell84]

I love KZbin golf club recommendations but I can’t stress enough to anyone how important getting fitted is. Never blind buy clubs always get fitted if u can that’s the only way you’ll ever find out what club is best first you

[@jongray9342]

Good content..carry on

[@powellpker]

just picked up the cleveland rtx-6 wedges, really good spin

[@TheAverageGolfer]

I believe so

[@balance3201]

Best investment is a decent lesson n practice

[@bobsmith4341]

XXIO 7-8-9-pw.....love them

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Quality

[@simonread732]

I’m gaming Wilson D9s I’m about an 18 handicap and they are great, really long and forgiving. Also have a Cleveland smart sole chipper which is brilliant. Going to change my sand and lob wedge for the smart sole versions soon. Why wouldn’t you! Make the game easier and enjoy it more.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Yep super easy to use

[@jbweezer]

I have the Smart Sole 58bsand wedge and it basically removes the need to practice your bunker game as it will always pop you out if you put a half decent swing on it. My only criticism is that due to the extremely high bounce of it, makes it much less useful off firm fairways. So I have to carry 4 wedges instead of 3. Recently I figured out how to hit out of the bunker with my lower bounce wedge (thanks to a video by Jason Day, so I can finally drop the SS Sand wedge out of the bag. But if I'm playing in a scramble or I'm feeling really tired, I will pop it back in the bag again, just for the forgiveness.

[@Angrypanda68]

I have a set of TM ATV wedges and have yet to find anything more forgiving and versatile ...well.for my skill level anyway 😂

[@petekenny3774]

Used cbx2 wedges brilliant

[@chucklucas8747]

I toke out my three wood now carry the driver 5-7-9 wood 3-4-5 hyb then the scoreing irons A wedge S wedge an putter my game is steady an i know my clubs distance

[@barnabysalter3949]

718cb irons 4 - pw and rtx zipcore full face irons, 52, 58, 64.

[@RichardMau-jn5ci]

Beautiful as usual video. My irons have a 2 degree up and would like to know should i have my wedge be 2 degrees up as well?? Please let me know thoughts, recommendations

[@neilross6227]

PXG 0311P gen4 with MG3 54 and MG4 58 wedges...

[@brianbollan7069]

I remember when you were using the Ping Chiprr

[@Hacktheplanet_]

blades and vokey wedges, yay i make sense haha

[@garethmorgan7474]

Taylor made wedges I use there really good

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Nice 👌

[@ronmullard5718]

The scoring part of game....

[@chrisgirling1097]

Not quite a CBX I'm playing a Cleveland smartsole wedge my short game is much better, nowhere where I like it to be but much improved

[@golfersbenandpapa8549]

Pxg game improvement 6-Pw new and Cleveland Wedges three years old

[@PCM-mc5xy]

I agree with your comments!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Thank you

[@markturner8916]

I play callaway big bertha b23 irons. My wedges are cleveland cbx full face wedge 2

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Happy with them?

[@markturner8916]

Love them better than my mizuno ES21 WEDGES

[@davidchipman7612]

PXG 0211 DC 6-LW

[@CatNash007]

Tmade P790 irons and MG4 wedges.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Happy with the wedges?

[@CatNash007]

I am for the summer season when the grass is grown and thick. I could probably use those CB4s once the grass turns brown and chipping surfaces become thin.

[@stephenmatthews1930]

Currently gaming taylormade wedges 60,50 cobra 56 and a cleveland chipper

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Ok cool, do you use the 60 much?

[@stephenmatthews1930]

@@TheAverageGolfer yes 60 used mainly from 70/75 yards cleveland chipper and 56 cobra around the green

[@Patrik.Pereira]

20 handicap pxg 0311xp gen 3

[@oscarbatz3377]

Anyone know difference between cbx vs cbx4 ?

[@bfcarrington]

We are well past the point of diminishing returns with drivers.

[@bentottle917]

I concur, Sir. I have Rtx3 50,54,58. But in my bag is 50 cbx4. Rtx3 54 for bunkers. Smartsole 58. And of course the Ping ChipR 😅 Great video Andy. You're preaching to the converted 👍

[@keyboardoracle1044]

I’ll probably do both

[@anthonybending2687]

Imo, I brought the cbx4 s , they stuffed them, to sharp. Went back to my cbx2 s, chalk and cheese, cbx2s far superior imo.

[@JamesFromKC]

I'm an 8 hcp and play ping i525.