5 REASONS Why the Apocrypha is NOT INSPIRED and Should be REJECTED!

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THE BEAT by Allen Parr

THE BEAT by Allen Parr

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@thebeatagp
@thebeatagp 5 жыл бұрын
Hey BEAT family! Happy Friday! Here are 5 reasons why I believe that the apocrypha was not inspired by God and therefore should NOT in in our Bibles today. There are many false teachings in it and I go through only a few of them in this video. This video is much longer than my normal ones but please do watch and follow as best you can as this is a very DEEP and difficult topic to cover. Leave your questions, comments, disagreements below and let's talk about it! Please be respectful of all. Blessings,
@juust_j0
@juust_j0 5 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@wigi3795
@wigi3795 5 жыл бұрын
You are wrong the apocrypha is part of the bible, It refers to new testament a lot of times . I am orthodox so it has more deutocanonical books
@thebeatagp
@thebeatagp 5 жыл бұрын
@@wigi3795 Did you watch this video? How can you argue in light of the doctrinal inconsistencies found in the apocrypha? Have you truly investigated this and not just accepted what might have been handed down to you? The Bible cannot contradict itself and so therefore, there cannot be two truths. Either the Bible is wrong or the apocrypha is wrong. But they both cannot be right.
@georgemichaelalhayek
@georgemichaelalhayek 5 жыл бұрын
hey mr Paar, I really enjoyed the video, thanks for the advice. and I have a question: Is convincing non believers to convert into christianity/muslim/jew a good thing in these days?
@lionproclamationsmedia
@lionproclamationsmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Allen there's some misinformation in your video from the standpoint that you give the impression that the Apocrypha found in the Catholic bible is the same as the KJV 1611. In the 1611 there are 14 books in the KJV Apocrypha not 7 as you found in the Catholic bible. I would not be surprised that the Roman Catholics took certain liberties with the scriptures by inserting the doctrines of men in their pages. As they have by so-called removing the Sabbath day for Sunday and giving alternative holy days like Christmas and Easter not found in the Bible but were pagan celebration hundreds of years before Christ stepped on the scene. A comparative analysis between the two versions would be interesting. Based on the 14 KJV books I've read so far I haven't seen any doctrinal differences with the Canon. The two work together. The Maccabees also give a historical account of the time of the third beast's reign (The Greeks). When I was in the protestant church, I was always told that the period between the old and new testament is when God was silent. But this turned out to be false information once I started reading for myself. I've never viewed a Catholic Bible. I noticed that you quote from the Catholic bible. Have you read all 14 books of the KJV Apocrypha for at least scholarship purposes (so that you know that you know for yourself) or are your references based on other sources and commentaries? The only reason I ask is because of the focus on the Catholic 7 books but do not acknowledge the KJV 14 books. Laymen who view your video won't know the difference, so I think you do the people a disservice. Praise the Most High for you desire to serve His people, but we must worship him in spirit and in truth. So, you got to give the people the whole truth even in these short videos. Shalom.
@downofdead12
@downofdead12 5 жыл бұрын
Please brothers and sisters in Christ, pray for my grandfather. He is dying and until know, he cannot let go. Please pray that the LORD may grand him peace and eternal life. I don't want him to suffer any longer. Thank you and God bless! [Edit: My Grandpa died in the end of 2019] Thank you all for your prayers.
@holyexperience1976
@holyexperience1976 5 жыл бұрын
Precious Lord, please heal grandpa so he no longer suffers, and please heal him in spirit, in mind, and in body, and please reconcile him unto you, and please work out whatever is needed so he accepts your invitation to go home with you where he belongs for eternity in the diviness of thou name. Amen.
@downofdead12
@downofdead12 5 жыл бұрын
@@holyexperience1976 Thank you!
@holyexperience1976
@holyexperience1976 5 жыл бұрын
@@downofdead12 Most definitely! ☺
@GodsPrincess323
@GodsPrincess323 5 жыл бұрын
Will do ❤️
@douglaspatterson1360
@douglaspatterson1360 5 жыл бұрын
DawnofLife is he saved?
@Nolaperu
@Nolaperu 5 жыл бұрын
It's almost like saying that Jesus' salvation isn't enough. Actually, it is.
@nanakojo
@nanakojo 5 жыл бұрын
Smh. If it's about salvation, then you don't need most of the books in the bible
@williamgullett5911
@williamgullett5911 5 жыл бұрын
And anything less than 100% belief in Jesus as our savior is calling GOD a liar. Its all about Jesus
@williamgullett5911
@williamgullett5911 5 жыл бұрын
@@nanakojo Its about salvation and much more. Salvation is the end part, being with GOD...but those books added to the Bible add context to GODs word. Then there is the bigest part...love of GOD for us. Of course salvation is important but its more thn salvation
@ninjaman6861
@ninjaman6861 5 жыл бұрын
He said the most important commandment was to Love god. If you love me you would keep my fathers commandments. So yeah they kinda go hand in hand.
@williamgullett5911
@williamgullett5911 5 жыл бұрын
@@ninjaman6861 Love thy LORD, your GOD, with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.
@jeanboshears6689
@jeanboshears6689 4 жыл бұрын
The original 1611 king James Bible has the apocrypha. It’s not just the Catholic Bible that has it.
@justinjustinjustin10
@justinjustinjustin10 4 жыл бұрын
Yep not only that but Luther wanted to throw out the book of James cause it said man is not saved by faith alone. Protestants really don't think shit through.
@teamambush6182
@teamambush6182 4 жыл бұрын
Jean Boshears thank u I was coming to say the same thing and there is more than 7 books
@nouranez5634
@nouranez5634 4 жыл бұрын
The Geneva Bible came before the KJV and it is more accurate than the KJV and it does not have the Apocrypha. God bless y'all.
@justinjustinjustin10
@justinjustinjustin10 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPQnYpvapmDras Catholic apologist (former Protestant) Trent Horn a rebuttal video for what this guy puts out.
@justinjustinjustin10
@justinjustinjustin10 4 жыл бұрын
BeWare Studies we all sin from time to time
@prodigy1605
@prodigy1605 6 ай бұрын
As a Catholic have got to say none of these reasons made sense aren’t in alignment with our teachings or catechism. Think you were told some misconceptions about the Catholic Church but thanks for the info as it helps me to understand where Protestants are coming from.
@ianbuick8946
@ianbuick8946 3 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate on your understanding of your teaching and why any of the reason in the video doesn't align with catechism? I'm a protestant but open to listen to other's understanding. Thank you and God bless.
@tekelarucker
@tekelarucker 2 ай бұрын
@@ianbuick8946I’m not catholic but a lot of his videos have misconceptions about other religious beliefs. If you want to know what they believe study it from them . Look up their videos
@fernandofreitas2615
@fernandofreitas2615 2 ай бұрын
@@ianbuick8946 Type into Google something like "first time Christians officially chose the canon of the Bible". It will probably take you to a website discussing the Council of Rome in 382 AD. The 73 books chosen then should match those in a Roman Catholic Bible and I think all Christian Orthodox denomination's Bibles will also have those 73 books (many denominations add more)
@a.aessthete
@a.aessthete 2 ай бұрын
It’s clear you didn’t listen to the entire video @prodigy1605
@AppleOfThineEye
@AppleOfThineEye Ай бұрын
@@a.aessthete ?? Prodigy was just sharing his experience as a Catholic...
@josephpaulsfan3081
@josephpaulsfan3081 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the truth Jesus is the only True God
@juzeljames7793
@juzeljames7793 5 жыл бұрын
well duh
@jmar5785
@jmar5785 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus was a man, Christ was/is God.
@josephpaulsfan3081
@josephpaulsfan3081 5 жыл бұрын
@@jmar5785 what do you mean my friend ?
@jmar5785
@jmar5785 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Paul's Fan Christ was not Jesus’ last name.
@gamebro5991
@gamebro5991 5 жыл бұрын
What about father God. And the Holy spirit?
@alaneledoux9081
@alaneledoux9081 5 жыл бұрын
The book of Maccabees does not tell us to pray for the dead. It explains what they were doing at that time. It does not instruct us to pray for the dead. There are many/most books that explain what the people were doing, but just because they were doing it doesn't mean it was right to do. Books talk about the sinning of man, it isn't telling us to sin. It's just telling us what they were doing.
@alaneledoux9081
@alaneledoux9081 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Durham if you haven't already, check out Gino Jennings on KZbin. Truth of God
@michaelmolig971
@michaelmolig971 5 жыл бұрын
Then why are Catholics praying for the dead???
@alaneledoux9081
@alaneledoux9081 5 жыл бұрын
MICHAEL MOLIG because they are misguided, and not reading the Bible. First of all, and feel free to correct me with Bible, nowhere in the Bible does it say to create religions. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to be Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Non-Denominational, Lutheran, and so on (list them all). The Bible says to follow Jesus and be like Jesus. Like all of these listed above they were created by man to fit their own agenda. Please look into the origin of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church does tons of things that aren't in the Bible. Allow me: Ash Wednesday, worshiping Mary, worshiping saints, creating holy days, the trinity. Seriously I could go on.
@mandeelaw8410
@mandeelaw8410 5 жыл бұрын
@@alaneledoux9081 💯
@nenolaura2199
@nenolaura2199 4 жыл бұрын
@@alaneledoux9081 Why is the idea of the Trinity false?
@luisangelpacheco6681
@luisangelpacheco6681 5 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize for the length of the video. I think you should make longer videos. You get more detail and explain things better. Thanks for all your videos and all that you do. God bless!
@thebeatagp
@thebeatagp 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luis! Glad you enjoyed the longer length of video!
@andrewmah2962
@andrewmah2962 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Longer videos means you can go into greater detail
@ashlynmyers1464
@ashlynmyers1464 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPQnYpvapmDras This video rebutted by a widely known Catholic theologian
@iseyserolf8893
@iseyserolf8893 4 жыл бұрын
i agree, a longer video would be a great idea especially for us that are finding our way back, we have so many questions when we start to learn about the Bible :) i was Catholic and just in the small amount I have learned from my pastors I have seen how wrong we were practicing our Faith all along. thank u for ur videos! thank you for educating and informing us, you go about it in a very respectful manner.
@alfonsovaldez2838
@alfonsovaldez2838 4 жыл бұрын
@@iseyserolf8893 Brother, please consider watching this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPQnYpvapmDras
@dorothycrawley3327
@dorothycrawley3327 Жыл бұрын
I'm not rejecting the Apocrypha..Before my son Andre died the Holy Spirit came over him and he copied and connected over 300 Bible verses..Including the Apocrypha!!.. Therein also lies when Israel was under the captivity of the Greeks (Herodians)..and God YHWH raising up Judas Maccabees and his 5 brothers to fight the Greeks..Shalom..
@naidy8404
@naidy8404 4 жыл бұрын
I've had multiple dreams of Jesus returning 🙏 I pray whoever reads this repents and worships Jesus. I dont not know the day nor the hour but I know he's return is near! Thank you Jesus!
@VagabondWithFlowers
@VagabondWithFlowers 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know if its relevant due to the warning of "dreamer of dreams" but I've had dreams of the moon and eventually of me walking into the moon and a quick research of what it could mean led to "lunacy" which i was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia after meeting and hearing demons and angels. Even a recent dream of a multi headed dragon and being summoned into battle with angels in what looked like a city in the sky... so yeah, im with you Naidy, im hoping people read and watch this and all of us repent and return to the truth quickly.
@naidy8404
@naidy8404 4 жыл бұрын
@@VagabondWithFlowers 🙏 wow bro thats really crazy. God is really trying to show us we don't have much time.
@deepforestfire
@deepforestfire 4 жыл бұрын
@@VagabondWithFlowers Schizophrenia is a spiritual disease. Google how most patients with schizophrenia are successful with a faith-based treatment.
@VagabondWithFlowers
@VagabondWithFlowers 4 жыл бұрын
@@deepforestfire thanks for that, and hopefully I can learn to do more good than bad. But sadly I think the Lord wants me like this due to my character... I was reading Romans and it pretty much hit home that my mind was given to reprobate... convincing me that i am becoming an antichrist
@chickenpiie5028
@chickenpiie5028 4 жыл бұрын
@@VagabondWithFlowers how are you now?
@OrondeB
@OrondeB 5 жыл бұрын
Straight blatant contradictions in these books! Paying money for salvation etc.. is clearly saying that Jesus Christ’s work wasn’t enough! It reminds me how Simon tried to pay to get Holy Spirit smh. Thanks for pointing this out brother Allen🙏🏾
@williamgullett5911
@williamgullett5911 5 жыл бұрын
Which is more dangerous to its believers....catholicism or scientology? The reson I wonnder this is because scientology doesnt preach salvation comes through scientology
@PVCGunita
@PVCGunita 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! you should check this out before you start coming to conclusions ^^: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8 God Bless!
@johnpearce3714
@johnpearce3714 4 жыл бұрын
YES, THANK YOU BROTHER ALLEN , YES , THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY AUTHORATIVE WRITTEN * WORD OF THE ONE ALMIGHTY * GOD THE * FATHER YAHWEH / JEHOVAH / THE * LORD YESHUA / JESUS * CHRIST / THE * HOLY SPIRIT ------ THE DIVINE , HOLY , RIGHTEOUS , MAJESTIC ------ THE * GODHEAD ---- GENESIS 1 V.26 ------- TAKE NOTE !! ------ THE WRITTEN CONTENTS OF THE BIBLE WERE / ARE THE DIVINE INSPIRATION * WORDS GIVEN TO THE O.T. PROPHETS , THE * LORD YESHUA / JESUS * CHRIST / THE APOSTLES BY THE * HOLY SPIRIT . ----- ALL ANSWERS ARE WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE --- * CHRIST FOR ALL !! ----- JOHN UK. ------
@takmaps
@takmaps 4 жыл бұрын
This would be true if they were actual inconsistencies, see here if you can spare a few minutes and are in search of different perspectives kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8
@takmaps
@takmaps 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you realise Martin Luther wanted to remove one more book too the Book of James because it supposedly "contradicted" St Paul.
@jaymedalbeth6962
@jaymedalbeth6962 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus's return is very soon. Are you ready? (:
@holyexperience1976
@holyexperience1976 5 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of much needed spiritual healing to do, I confess.
@jaymedalbeth6962
@jaymedalbeth6962 5 жыл бұрын
@@holyexperience1976 During this process, God bless you (:
@holyexperience1976
@holyexperience1976 5 жыл бұрын
@@jaymedalbeth6962 Bless your very spirit in Jesus name!
@jaymedalbeth6962
@jaymedalbeth6962 5 жыл бұрын
@@holyexperience1976 And bless you too!
@KhloJay1024
@KhloJay1024 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait 👏🏻👏🏻
@JJ-cw3nf
@JJ-cw3nf Жыл бұрын
In ‘Against Heresies’ (Book III, Chapter 21) 180 AD, Bishop Ireneaus writes the Apostles that used the Septuigint. Read it yourselves. Ireneaus was taught by Polycarp, and Polycarp was taught by John the Apostle. Who are you going to trust?
@AbiyahbenJudah
@AbiyahbenJudah 5 жыл бұрын
In the book of Joshua it refers to the book of Jasher. In the book of Jude it refers to the book of Enoch. (Jasher & Enoch were removed from the bible) If these are Justified books why would they be referring to scripture that isn't true, books that arent inspired? That makes no sense. The same council that removed these books and others almost removed Revelations. If they did teachers like this would tell you to avoid it, and if we did how much critical information would we have missed? To much! Thats why the scripture teaches that you should not add or take away from his word. He knew people were gonna take away from his word. Do we believe the council or His word? Do we trust The Father or man? If you trust the people that removed his books then remove the book of Jude & Joshua yourself since they refer to corrupt scripture that this (so called anointed) council didn't deem as credible. Keep in mind you will find nowhere in scripture where the Most High had given these men permission to subtract from his word.
@joebarnes3181
@joebarnes3181 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent rebuttal
@jdrake63
@jdrake63 5 жыл бұрын
Both books are great sources that supports the canonized 66 books. I also like the book of Enoch.
@AbiyahbenJudah
@AbiyahbenJudah 5 жыл бұрын
@@jdrake63 haven't got there yet I'm still reading through Jubilees amazed on all the background info I've missed
@jdrake63
@jdrake63 5 жыл бұрын
@@AbiyahbenJudah Indeed!
@catherha1
@catherha1 4 жыл бұрын
The apocrypha is inspired... And why is he using "Protestant" so much? Where is that in the so called cannonized Bible? Why should a believer in Christ identify as that just because of what Martin Luther did?
@MichaelChemane1962
@MichaelChemane1962 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation, brother Allen Parr. As an african, it's normal to hear stories of communicating with spirits of dead people and I used to quote *Ecclesiastes 9:5* or *Deuteronomy 13* to escape from such questions. But, after reading *Luke **16:19**-30 (The Rich Man and Lazarus)* my eyes were opened. May God bless you for such wisdom!
@keynat9755
@keynat9755 2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me how this chapter helped your eyes to open? I'm just curious because people are into spirits and talking to their ancestors
@datguyhiro269
@datguyhiro269 2 жыл бұрын
@@keynat9755 Abraham said to The rich man, “And besides, there is a great chasm separating us. No one can cross over to you from here, and no one can cross over to us from there.’” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:26‬ ‭NLT‬‬, to be this indicates that there is a separation from the living and the dead and that we cannot crossover to the spiritual world
@CastleCompleteCrusade
@CastleCompleteCrusade Жыл бұрын
I’ve had dead people come to me since I was around 7. I questioned anything anyone tells me NOT to read. Jesus did it and he say we would do greeter things. I’ll stick to my spirit and Jesus verses an opinion. I’m smart enough to think for myself. Some I believe some is obvious I don’t. Have the Holy Spirit cover you and make your own decisions people. No man can truly be trusted but Jesus… he can. Blessings.
@CastleCompleteCrusade
@CastleCompleteCrusade Жыл бұрын
PS study king James and how he reworded things ti fit him and his homosexual ways. There was 80 books (I believe that’s the number) taken down to 66. Yes 66.
@Omissionnn
@Omissionnn Жыл бұрын
@@CastleCompleteCrusade the kjv still condemns homosexuality though does it not?
@mimo1351
@mimo1351 2 жыл бұрын
I hope everyone reads those books and when you do pray to the Lord and ask him.
@WhiteDove73-888
@WhiteDove73-888 8 ай бұрын
Yes of course we have read them. They have nothing to say about Messiah
@diamondlife-gi7hg
@diamondlife-gi7hg 5 ай бұрын
@@WhiteDove73-888 theres actually many things in there that are practically christ words you didnt read them youve just been taught to hate catholics.
@lilydaughterofabba
@lilydaughterofabba 3 ай бұрын
@@WhiteDove73-888❤
@TheManofsorrows
@TheManofsorrows 4 ай бұрын
Allan parr was in error when he said the Catholics Bible has 14 books now he’s changing his words
@dreygates8246
@dreygates8246 4 жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree..
@lucrecepatrick9234
@lucrecepatrick9234 4 жыл бұрын
I think me too.
@augustusplebeian3268
@augustusplebeian3268 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I heard the teaching in the Apographa. It doesn't sound like a lie. It's almost like these preachers worship the bible and cannot recognize the words of god? Im not sure.
@kiraf.6820
@kiraf.6820 4 жыл бұрын
augustus plebeian Yeah the book of Jasher is mentioned in the Bible multiple times. Joshua 10:12-13 for example.
@augustusplebeian3268
@augustusplebeian3268 4 жыл бұрын
@@kiraf.6820 Yeah. Where in the bible does it say "only the bible is the true words of god".. Nowhere.
@MystoRobot
@MystoRobot 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your disagreement: That guy have done no research whatsoever. Everything is laid out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8
@markallen3822
@markallen3822 3 жыл бұрын
People, do not listen to the opinions of men. Read the scriptures yourself and ask the holy spirit to be your guide while testing all things as Moses instructed us in Duet 13 and 18.
@blakenaquin-o3j
@blakenaquin-o3j 3 жыл бұрын
That’s solo Scriptura which isn’t in the Bible. Christ gave his Church teaching authority.
@WhompingWalrus
@WhompingWalrus 3 жыл бұрын
@@blakenaquin-o3j bro if a literal god came to Earth and handed down divine knowledge himself, why would you trust random men who claim to speak for him after the fact? If he can communicate directly with people, why are you supposed to trust some random men, and how are you supposed to know which men are divinely authorized to change what's gospel, versus which are just making up nonsense? There's a whole lot of contradiction out there. That's just asking for a pornocracy lol.
@blakenaquin-o3j
@blakenaquin-o3j 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhompingWalrus that’s a good question. The Church doesn’t assume that responsibility, it was given by Christ when he said things like on this rock I build my Church, the authority to bind and loose, and go baptize all nations to the apostles. He gave this authority to the apostles and the Catholic Church is the only one who can trace itself back to the apostles so that we see the deposit of faith unchanged from 33 AD until now. The Church has developed with apostolic succession, but the dogmas and doctrines from the early church are unchanged and the developments have never contradicted the deposit of faith. This is how we know that bishops and priests are not just random men but have been ordained by successors of the apostles who were themselves divinely ordained by Christ.
@Puddycat00
@Puddycat00 3 жыл бұрын
Ok but who wrote these 7 Bible books? Were they written by apostles or Satanic ppl?
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@blakenaquin-o3j 🤮
@angusjeff
@angusjeff 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see your counter rebuttal to Trent Horn. I found his rebuttal to this video to be a great rebuttal. Yes I am catholic, but I really think his rebuttal is acceptable than this video. I know that this video can go deeper to support your arguments and you have no time to make it as you said on your disclaimer. That is why, i would also like to see if you will make another video reacting to Trent Horn's rebuttal video. God bless you, Allen! Thanks
@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG
@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG 2 жыл бұрын
Allen, I do honestly believe that Wisdom of Solomon 2:12-20 will completely change your mind. It is a perfect prophecy of Jesus Christ, and came round about 50 years before he came to the earth. It is absolutely spine chilling.
@MrAde-jy3uu
@MrAde-jy3uu 4 жыл бұрын
I dunno. The book of Enoch makes a lot of sense to me man
@edgelorddragneel1142
@edgelorddragneel1142 3 жыл бұрын
People can say whatever they want. They can make the lies sound like the truth. You have eyes and ears. Welcome the Holy Spirit, read the bible, read the apocrypha thoroughly, discern what is right and wrong. Let each man find the truth by searching for it themselves. Hear all the things people have to say through KZbin or other ways but only accept the truth. Remember Jesus' words. " You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free"
@lunabeta3516
@lunabeta3516 3 жыл бұрын
All we have to do is pray for truth.💌
@Elias171
@Elias171 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the complete Truth. You don't need anything extra. I have the read the book of Enoch. It is interesting but it doesn't make the Bible incomplete. The gospel is what the world needs
@mar77598
@mar77598 3 жыл бұрын
@@Elias171 👍
@MirielPastorOfVows
@MirielPastorOfVows 3 жыл бұрын
@@edgelorddragneel1142 There are plenty of people who believe they are hearing the Holy Spirit but are in fact mistaken. It is almost like Jesus left us a church to help us discern the truth. Hmm... He did say to take things to the church. He did say that Peter was the rock upon which that church was built. Interesting. The Holy Spirit guides the Catholic church and no other.
@stevenjames7334
@stevenjames7334 3 жыл бұрын
man, i find myself binge watching your videos as if it is Netflix..much love brother..
@tee415y510
@tee415y510 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched for the first time today (and subscribed). I've been watching most of the afternoon 😄
@PatrickSteil
@PatrickSteil 3 жыл бұрын
Might want to check out the rebuttal video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXzJZopsr9CZnbs
@a.aessthete
@a.aessthete 2 ай бұрын
Same here 😂
@basilsaji732
@basilsaji732 11 ай бұрын
But isn't that rich man praying to "Abraham"? And isn't he dead? Then how is he communicating with the dead???
@Joseph-pe9yu
@Joseph-pe9yu 8 ай бұрын
I believe it's just a parable. I would humble suggest you may be reading too much into it.
@Jesus123ioasdjfkasjfkjlasdfask
@Jesus123ioasdjfkasjfkjlasdfask 7 ай бұрын
Just talking isn't praying, and they are both dead
@jimmie_g
@jimmie_g 4 ай бұрын
@@Jesus123ioasdjfkasjfkjlasdfask Luke 16:27, "Then he said, I PRAY THEE therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:" Exactly how is that not praying, when he's clearly saying "I PRAY THEE"?
@jimmie_g
@jimmie_g 4 ай бұрын
@@Joseph-pe9yu to believe it's just a parable is also reading too much into it. The Bible over and over identifies when Christ is speaking a parable and it doesn't do so here. The rich man is clearly quoted as praying in Luke 16:27, "Then he said, I PRAY THEE therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:" Now, his prayer fell on deaf ears, but he was clearly dead and clearly praying.
@dadams966
@dadams966 3 ай бұрын
@@jimmie_gthe word “father” is direct address so isn’t he addressing God? Genuine question not trying to sound smart just curious
@dravendfr
@dravendfr 3 ай бұрын
The Apocrypha was debated by Martin Luther who not only wanted to remove the Apocrypha, but also Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation since they didn’t convey the doctrine he wanted. The Apocrypha was first removed from KJV printed Bibles in 1666, without the Apocrypha there are 66 books in the Bible, and in 1826 its removal was justified for monetary purposes… I’m a Southern Baptist, but I’m sticking with the inclusion of the Apocrypha, thanks…
@carlbillingsley3452
@carlbillingsley3452 5 жыл бұрын
These books was part of the 1611 edition of the Bible who gave them power to remove them. Bible say you shouldn't add or take away
@Hottestsummer
@Hottestsummer 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@fernandofreitas2615
@fernandofreitas2615 2 ай бұрын
Well it wasn't sola scriptura, Bible doesn't say which books should be in the Bible, humans have chosen. Other cases where sola scriptura works poorly is when Christians contradicted Old Testament scriptures by saying pigs weren't unclean before any New Testament scriptures were written, let alone considered inspired (and as I said above humans decide what's inspired not the Bible). No Christian Orthodox denomination nor the Roman Catholic denomination (ie the oldest Christian denominations) followed sola scriptura, only later Protestants said it was true even though the Bible doesn't say >only< use the Bible to find >infallible< religious truths. If it did it would've caused problem especially to first four centuries of Christians.
@landonadams8122
@landonadams8122 5 жыл бұрын
Proverbs 11:4 "righteousness rescues from death" Revelation 7:9-10 "I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
@zacharyevans8152
@zacharyevans8152 8 ай бұрын
"Righteousness rescues from death" Indeed, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal LIFE"
@rolandmorgan8630
@rolandmorgan8630 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t see how it’s teaching something that happens the books doesn’t tells us to pay and pray for the dead . It’s just simply states that that what they did . Don’t take the word out of context
@markallen3822
@markallen3822 3 жыл бұрын
Right on brother. Pretty funny to me that most people who would reject the apocrypha don't even understand the "canon" or public scriptures.
@Arcticroberto9376
@Arcticroberto9376 3 жыл бұрын
The Israelites worshipped a golden calf, therefore Exodus isn't canon
@hjanejandayan7505
@hjanejandayan7505 3 жыл бұрын
@@Arcticroberto9376 But let's not forget how God punished the Israelites for their idolatrous activities. And God was not pleased with it.
@alexisricky2
@alexisricky2 4 ай бұрын
When we thinking adding and removing books just ask what Bible was there first for over a 1000 years. Also protectants should really learn the doctrine of purgatory. Nothing to do with someone going to hell.
@_ThatOneServant
@_ThatOneServant 4 жыл бұрын
What about The Feast of dedication (John 10:22) we can't find it in any other place in the 66, However we can find it in the Apocrypha so I humbly disagree brother
@jesusmorales4327
@jesusmorales4327 3 жыл бұрын
I was a Catholic and became Pentecostal Evangelical and was such a smart ass on theology but when it comes to HISTORICAL EVIDENCE. Catholicism is right including the deuterocanonical books and the Eucharist. So I accept it. Apocrypha is a derogatory term Protestants use. I personally don’t believe in praying to saints but I have am glad to say that Catholicism is right😌😌😊. I am a proud catholic reconvert!!!
@cesar5478
@cesar5478 3 жыл бұрын
I don't humble disagree with the dude, I strongly disagree! Dude is off on so many topics.
@jesusmorales4327
@jesusmorales4327 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRedacted you need to learn church history, it’s hard to accept.
@gnieu1278
@gnieu1278 3 жыл бұрын
The Jews chucked it out even the books of Macabees.. Think about it
@jesusmorales4327
@jesusmorales4327 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRedacted I understand your point, for me personally Catholics are right. I’ve seen both sides when it comes to the apocrypha and it makes sense to keep them.
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 3 жыл бұрын
One reason you should: they were part of the bible from 382 onwards. I.e. since the first official bible was announced. Luther helped remove the books he did not like.
@tribeofyasharal5986
@tribeofyasharal5986 5 жыл бұрын
Mormonism and the latter day saints pray to the dead and are baptized too. (Bad doctrine)
5 жыл бұрын
Right, you can be baptized into a false religion (by an evil spirit) , but not born again
@aural_supremacy
@aural_supremacy 5 жыл бұрын
They don't pray to the dead in fact they are instructed to pray only to the Father but they believe Mormons in Paradise go into what they call Spirit prison and preach the Gospel if Spirit accepts then if Baptisms and other ordinances are performed on earth they can get out, so much wrong with that doctrine it is surprising anyone could believe it but they do.
@einc70
@einc70 5 жыл бұрын
No. We only perform baptism in proxy of those who have passed on, your ancestry. We don't pray yo the dead. Didn't you register this Matthew 6:5-15 kjb into your hardrive? Thanks for spreading lies. Sad how people are gullible to their own insecurities aren't they.
@avwillis5269
@avwillis5269 5 жыл бұрын
I actually heard a funny story about this where an LDS woman was able to trace her lineage to the prophet Mohammed. As a result, he is apparently now baptized by proxy into the church.
@germanslice
@germanslice 4 жыл бұрын
Hell has to empty up all her dead inhabitants for the the Final Judgement. All the dead both righteous and wicked who are waiting in paradise and hell in those holding places, Spirit prison is the place the rich man had found himself stuck in and Paradise where Lazarus went, is a holding place of peace and rest for gathering of all the righteous spirits, so the wicked will wait in a place of misery while the righteous will wait in a place of peace. They will be waiting for the time of the Resurrection and Final Judgement. Yes if someone does the temple work for their ancestors they will be let out of the prison....Isaiah describes the temple work of the dead of the prisoners being let out of spirit prision in Isaiah 42:6-7 But those who can't discern spiritual truth will only think it is just an earthly prison and not a spiritual prison.' This is why Paul talked about the three degrees of glory or gradings of the resurrection of the dead will go into after the books are first all opened up and all the dead stand all before God and are judged according to their works (Rev 20:12-13) . In the resurrection and Final Judgement everybody will be assigned by God a degree of glory (1 Cor 15:40-43) according to the works they have performed down here on the earth for God is Just.. He will grade all of the dead according to their works..... Speaking of the grading of the dead, Jesus taught, Ín My Father's House are Many Mansions'' Those who have sinned unto Perdition however like Judas did, will not be saved by the Father in a mansion of glory but will go to a place of no glory, but the rest who don't sin unto perdition will be saved in a degree of glory in heaven in one of those three levels so those who sin unto perdition will be cast into another place of hell called Outer Darkness down into that hell in the lake of fire which has no end to suffer in the second death while the temporary hell comes to an end when it delivers up all its dead out of it at the judgement who are worthy of receiving a mansion who have not sinned unto perdition.... So yes we teach that during the Millennium while Christ is on earth when he arrives, the wicked will suffer in the flame of eternal torment of dissapointment like the Rich man in hell for their unrepented sins and then they are brought out and judged, resurrected and assigned the lowest degree of glory by God because these spirits were rebellious, and disobedient to God and were not valiant on the earth and would not come to Christ. So they suffer even as Jesus did for them if you read the sufferings of Jesus in the garden of gethsemane, being in great agony for all our sins, that will be the sufferings of the wicked they will andure the pains of a God. But God is just and is no respecter of persons...
@StarneshaCoitHeavenlyProvision
@StarneshaCoitHeavenlyProvision Жыл бұрын
The book of Jasher is mentioned twice in kjv Joshua 10:13; 2 Samuel 1:18 but is not in the kjv only in the apocrypha. Why is the book mentioned?
@Larry-zv8li
@Larry-zv8li 5 ай бұрын
you see he didnt answer the question.
@zae4557
@zae4557 5 ай бұрын
Wasn’t the book of Jashar not preserved and lost?
@tibbers__1138
@tibbers__1138 4 ай бұрын
They were mentioned in the old testament because they are historical books, but not devinely inspired, that's why they weren't mentioned in the new testament.
@Larry-zv8li
@Larry-zv8li 4 ай бұрын
@@tibbers__1138 this makes ZERO sense dude good try though 🤣😂😅
@lovelylaura1057
@lovelylaura1057 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you brother Allen. I was raised catholic..now Born again believing, & did not know Why the Catholic church included extra books . I agree w your teaching and correction on this subject matter. I thank the Holy spirit for HIS divine work in you and teaching me this truth through you. May you continue to be strengthened and blessed in your ministry for CHRIST JESUS and your family as well.☺🙏💗
@JJ-cw3nf
@JJ-cw3nf Жыл бұрын
In ‘Against Heresies’ (Book III, Chapter 21) 180 AD, Bishop Ireneaus writes the Apostles that used the Septuigint. Read it yourselves. Ireneaus was taught by Polycarp, and Polycarp was taught by John the Apostle. Who are you going to trust? Zero Christian bibles prior to Martin Luther in the 1,500’s had bibles that matches the current Protestant bible
@antoniobellini6311
@antoniobellini6311 Жыл бұрын
The holy eucharist is sacred amen
@VegaChastain
@VegaChastain 5 жыл бұрын
love your message but that beat in the background just makes me think I left a belt in my clothes drier
@steflondon88
@steflondon88 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@R.P-ACE777
@R.P-ACE777 3 жыл бұрын
THIS NIGGA'S A FOOL, YOU DON'T ADD OR *SUBTRACT* FROM THE BIBLE, HE'S LEADING PEOPLE ASTRAY.
@VegaChastain
@VegaChastain 3 жыл бұрын
@@R.P-ACE777 right, but the argument over what is and isn't part of the Bible is the context here
@vadamsable
@vadamsable 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@louiseleite3866
@louiseleite3866 3 жыл бұрын
@@R.P-ACE777 I believe he has a name.
@kneeapolytan
@kneeapolytan 4 жыл бұрын
I have a copy of the Apocrypha that I’m going to read for myself.
@Sherita520.
@Sherita520. 3 жыл бұрын
Please do!! It was in there for a reason
@chavonechakhan383
@chavonechakhan383 3 жыл бұрын
People you have to go a little deeper. Copy and Paste this video " tribe of judah teach apocrypha" never get info from a Christian who just heard get it from one who can break down the Apocrypha.
@lyninator
@lyninator 3 жыл бұрын
Did u buy it
@legatelanius1465
@legatelanius1465 3 жыл бұрын
Guys, guys, it's not a bad set of books, it just isn't biblical. You can still gain some wisdom from them just don't think they are legit Gods books to be concluded.
@logandent3278
@logandent3278 3 жыл бұрын
@@legatelanius1465 if the books within the Deuterocanon aren’t “Biblical”, which I think you meant to say canonical but I get your lower level of understanding...then the Book of Esther or the Book of Daniel aren’t “Biblical”...
@hatol614
@hatol614 9 ай бұрын
One thing I want to correct here, in Baruch 3:4, the prayer is saying that they are no better than the dead for they are suffering the consequences of the sin of their ancestors. It's not saying that the dead can pray. It's obvious that the one praying in the verse is alive. It's clearer if you use TEV. I'm an Evangelical Christian, but I want to be critical about everything you say as to be fair with our Catholic friends.
@russellwilkey390
@russellwilkey390 5 жыл бұрын
I truly believe that God speaks through you. I also believe that you listen to God.Thank you my brother in Christ
@PVCGunita
@PVCGunita 5 жыл бұрын
Hi sir! Please take your time to also watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8 I know Allen is indeed a good-hearted Christian, but there are also misconceptions that he unfortunately was either raised or fell into. May God Bless you and I pray for the best on your journey!
@lindsayfitz2480
@lindsayfitz2480 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this! I literally asked my husband this morning if he knew anything about the Apocrypha and he told me he just watched this video. God’s timing is perfect! Thank you for always sharing the truth in such a bold yet loving way!!
@brg1213
@brg1213 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPQnYpvapmDras Gods timing is perfect
@BasilTU
@BasilTU 4 жыл бұрын
@@brg1213 was about to share this too 😁 God's timing is Perfect 👌
@PVCGunita
@PVCGunita 4 жыл бұрын
And also these rebuttal videos by How to Be Christian. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXzJZopsr9CZnbs
@benjaminguilatcoiv
@benjaminguilatcoiv Жыл бұрын
There are true books of the Word amongst the Apocrypha.. it was hidden by liars who wish to hide knowledge from the elect
@BabyFed
@BabyFed 3 жыл бұрын
It is deeply saddening to see all the Catholics in this comment section either speaking heresy or twisting the truth/playing semantics... please please please repent and obey the Lord Jesus Christ alone!
@a.kamileon
@a.kamileon 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad to see Protestants yapping without doing any research on Church history or the formation of the biblical canon.
@arturoperry
@arturoperry 11 ай бұрын
THANK GOD FOR ANSWERING MY PRAYER through the explanation of this video. I was just introduced to the Apocrypha and was feeling discouraged. Although many books were written and can be used for knowledge. THE SCRIPTURES are The Holy Writings profitable for Doctrine, for Reproof, for Correction, for Instruction in Righteousness.
@larvitar2065
@larvitar2065 9 ай бұрын
Amen brotha!
@XeenMusic
@XeenMusic 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, this video was not an answer to prayer, since that would mean that God answered you with lies. I am trying to challenge the video's author to a public debate to confront him for his lies and misrepresentation of the truth. Here is a list of some things that are wrong: #1 - Catholics are not the only group that acccepts these books, so it's not a Catholic debate - its a debate against modern Christianity versus the first 1600 years of Christianity. #2 - misrepresentation of what 2 Maccabees teaches #3 - misrepresentation of what Tobit teaches (Tobit itself provides the context even, that shows that he's taking it out of context), also both Jesus and Daniel teach the same thing #4 - misrepresentation of what Barcuh teaches #5 - Wisdom 11:17 does not contradict Genesis is any way shape or form -- I'm at a loss of words to understand the logic behind this claim (if that's the absolute best he can find, something that agrees 100% with the bible) then that proves there's nothing wrong with the book #6 - lie that Jews rejected those books #7 - lie that Josephus rejected those books #8 - "the blood to Abel to Zechariah" is clearly nothing to with a canonical statement #9 - lie that New Testament never quotes so-called Apocrypha #10 - this is the absolute biggest lie in the entire video that proves that this person has absolutely no idea whatsoever what they are talking about -- that no one until the 16th century accept them (this lie is so ridiculous - the only people in 1600 years that seem to show some doubt about them was a few people btween 350-400AD, but they got over that and continued to accept them like all Christians did before then)
@patrickpelletier9298
@patrickpelletier9298 3 ай бұрын
You’re right, it is an excellent video He shows why they were removed after 1200 years of being in the Canon, because they reject the teachings Luther wanted to create. Best part is, there are many excellent Apolgists who can argue these teachings from the 66 books left behind for Protestants to read.
@michaelwaters6829
@michaelwaters6829 3 жыл бұрын
I am neither Protestant nor Catholic, but that was an excellent presentation.
@eugengolubic2186
@eugengolubic2186 5 жыл бұрын
I went to check Wisdom 11:17. The universe is created ex nihilo (as it seems), but the planet Earth is created ex materia (ofc). I see no contradicton here. That's an easy one to refute.
@MogulMaurice
@MogulMaurice 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. The Jews said they weren't scripture and neither did Jesus.
@eugengolubic2186
@eugengolubic2186 5 жыл бұрын
@@MogulMaurice Jesus never set the biblical canon of I recall correctlly. Not even all prophecies are mentioned in the Gospels. What do Jews have to do with it? Most of them rejected their Messiah!
@AllAmericanSigns
@AllAmericanSigns 4 жыл бұрын
Gen 1:2 earth was FORMLESS
@AllAmericanSigns
@AllAmericanSigns 4 жыл бұрын
@@MogulMaurice Jesus never said it wasn't. Also remember those same jews said Jesus wasn't scripture
@kevint7288
@kevint7288 4 жыл бұрын
@@AllAmericanSigns the matter in Wisdom 11 was FORMLESS See how this is a 2-player game? ;)
@daphniefarkas5703
@daphniefarkas5703 3 жыл бұрын
I have tried to point these things out to try to lovingly correct family members that were taught these things their whole lives and they get really hostile and tell me that my Bible is wrong. Either God said this or he didn't, but they can't both be right at the same time.
@DorothyDanso-lt2ez
@DorothyDanso-lt2ez Жыл бұрын
That Josephus reference brought everything together for me. Not everything that's written, however useful and informative, is Divine! Thank You, Brother Parr 🙏💯
@XeenMusic
@XeenMusic 8 ай бұрын
Except Josephus is part of the Pharisees, which is only ONE sect of Jews at the time. Other sects of Jews did accept and use those books, including the apostles and their disciples. Also keep in mind, that Josephus used the so-called apocryphal version of Esther and Ezra, which are not in your bibles.
@chriscillamercadel7847
@chriscillamercadel7847 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I try to talk to my mom sometimes about why I don’t agree with a lot of Catholic practices. I was baptized In a Catholic Church as a baby, grew up going for a long time because of my grandma. When I got older my mom backed away from Catholicism and began going to Christian non denominational churches. Just last year I became a born again Christian and I have backed out of several conversations with my mom because I try to tell her reasons why I disagree. She has tons of rosaries (I don’t think she uses them) a picture of Mary also she used to hang it up but now she took it down. Every time I talk to my mom about it she gets defensive and says “my mom was Catholic so did she go to heaven???, she was good and she did so many good things for people” I told her God has the say on where she goes but it hurts to even give any response because I don’t know How do I respond to that 😥 Allen any advice would be appreciated. I have been wanting to talk to my mom about how I is just about putting our faith in Jesus and knowing that salvation is the free gift from God, I just try to avoid her getting upset with me. Sorry so long.... I need to pray on this.
@taliaenoch8188
@taliaenoch8188 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Chriscilla. I understand where you're coming from. However, I would recommend that you watch the rebuttal to this video by Trent Horn (his channel is called The Council of Trent). I'm saying this because your comment came across as very sincere. I can tell that you have a love for Christ and the truth. The video by Trent Horn might actually have you change your mind on some things. If not, it will at least give you a different perspective on catholicism - even if you still disagree. Peace sister.
@chriscillamercadel7847
@chriscillamercadel7847 3 жыл бұрын
@@taliaenoch8188 Hello, Thank you for your kind response. I have MANY catholic family members and I know what is taught and to be honest with you the more I read my bible, the more I understand why the core of Catholics is false. However, I do believe that there are some Catholics that don't even have true Catholicism beliefs and only believe we are saved by Grace through faith and nothing more. I do believe that some Catholics may be saved because they don't fully believe the core catholic beliefs. I have been in many catholic churches growing up and I have seen it all and scripture is twisted. growing up, my aunts and family members would tell me all kinds of false beliefs about their catholic faith. Many of them act as if their deceased family members could hear them, when I see NOTHING in scripture about it. They would try to tell me that each saint heals a different body part. I was told that Mary would help with the barren womb. Once I read the bible it was very clear that Jesus is the ONLY way. I don't need to pray to Mary to ask her to pray for me. She cannot hear my prayers only God can. God is a jealous God and He is the only healer. Please ask God to guide you to the truth about it. Humble yourself before Him and He will make it clear to you. God bless you
@johnnylancer9441
@johnnylancer9441 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that our Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus, if it is in God’s plan, will bring you two closer together and unite you once again in Him. Something I find to be of help even in my very limited, beginners knowledge on the matter is the study of apologetics, and how it can allow you to remain firm in your convictions in the Spirit while being loving and kind, not feeding into arguments of any kind. All the love in the world unto you, Sincerely, Kyle.
@sheilahtaylor3005
@sheilahtaylor3005 2 жыл бұрын
Darling, read your Bible. There is SO MANY scriptures to disagree with the Catholic church practices. Mom is going to make up her mind(the Holy Spirit WILL convict her) AFTER you pull out those verses in the Bible. God doesn't have DIFFERENT opinions. His Word is true! I will pray for your Mother and ALL Catholics. The Word of God is true OR IT ISN'T! Be encouraged.. find those scriptures. You must do the work yourself. Blessings 🙌🏾
@rpgfeatures793
@rpgfeatures793 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscillamercadel7847 if it wasn’t for the Catholic Church. You literally wouldn’t have a Bible
@TheLilly
@TheLilly 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about total rejection. I see the apocryphal books as history books. That's how I see them. They do help in explaining some things where the Scriptures only touch lightly, for those who wanna understand context.
@EmanuelPerez-it6ky
@EmanuelPerez-it6ky 2 жыл бұрын
I get what you mean but, wherever there is a doctrinal inconsistencies, I would chose to follow the divinely inspired scriptures.
@aspenrussell6323
@aspenrussell6323 Жыл бұрын
I agree sis
@WONDERS.JOSH.ROCK.
@WONDERS.JOSH.ROCK. 10 ай бұрын
Wrongggggg
@carolynkramer5816
@carolynkramer5816 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you! Question for you regarding that part of Maccabees... Under the old covenant, wasn't Israel often treated as a whole when it came to their sins? Could it be possible that the prayer regarding blotting out their sins was done so that God would spare Israel as a nation any fate that might come upon them because of these men's actions and that's why they were so thankful God showed them their sin? Repentance was often done as a nation.
@Saint.questions
@Saint.questions 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is a Good question....
@jacques9515
@jacques9515 3 жыл бұрын
This actually makes a lot of sense, and then it also means either way, apocrypha or no apocrypha, the practice of praying for the dead and purgatory is heresy
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 3 жыл бұрын
Sound reasoning.
@mra.4466
@mra.4466 3 жыл бұрын
My same thoughts as I listened to it. The best point from his video is why Jews don’t accept these books. Every other point he made is debatable and seems possible to be taken out of context.
@JamesBond-kw6vs
@JamesBond-kw6vs 2 жыл бұрын
@@mra.4466 how can jews not accept the apocrypha considering the fact it was translated by Grecians (Greek speaking jews), and not to mention The Septuagint and The Apocyrpha was highly influenced by the Grecians that is why it was written in Koine Greek.
@briankite7744
@briankite7744 Жыл бұрын
“Most people probably won’t recognize quotes from the Apocrypha so it’s easy to make the claim that the NT does not quote from it. But the NT and Jesus both quote the Apocryphal books; even if they are short or glancing quotes.”
@mattmoeller1105
@mattmoeller1105 7 ай бұрын
Can you give reference in Scripture where those are?
@briankite7744
@briankite7744 7 ай бұрын
@@mattmoeller1105 Jude and 2 Peter. A quick Google search will assist you. Also, Jesus speaking of angels not marrying. This one is less concrete, thus mentioning last. The others are explicit.
@NicoleAllado57
@NicoleAllado57 5 жыл бұрын
"If you add anything to the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross, then, my friend, we are perverting the gospel." Good word!! 🙌
@myresonance8013
@myresonance8013 4 жыл бұрын
@Elijah Who wrote that ?
@ryrocks9487
@ryrocks9487 6 ай бұрын
So the Bible shouldn't be had?
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld 5 жыл бұрын
Some criticism: 1) while Maccabees is the reference for "praying to the dead", this is supported by Rev21-27 and 1Cor3:12-15 in terms of establishing a purgatory concept itself. That is, it becomes consistent with other areas of the New Testament. 2) this is the old "sola fide" thing, which isn't biblically supported. James and Romans both say that faith without works isn't enough. That's why Luther wanted to remove them as books. 3) these aren't mutually exclusive. "Formless matter" isn't said to be visible, so it doesn't contradict Hebrews at all. 4) the Jews also reject the New Testament entirely, so what?
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamsmith9948 No, not at all. It doesn't "offend" me. This isn't an ego thing. This is simply a fact of what's in the scripture; and the fact is Protestants reject much of scripture. That's why they removed 7 books from the OT, and Luther wanted to remove 4 from the NT before even his followers said that was a step too far.
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamsmith9948 And regarding work-less salvation itself, scripture is very explicit in condemning that, as well as all the apostolic and saintly figures who followed since. Salvation through works is precisely how one fulfills the virtues of charity, love and faith. Salvation without the works is meaningless. It's like a man looking at his reflection. As soon as he turns away, it is gone. That's exactly what you find among the work-less evangelists, the fair weather friends who only act according to Christ on a Sunday morning when the vicar is looking. And what do such people argue? They argue that people are saved regardless. That Jesus's sacrifice guarantees them a place in Heaven. And that's palpably wrong. People have, still do and will reject God's word. He won't guarantee them salvation. We can pray for it, but it's no certainty. Again, scripture is very clear about this *when* you don't cherry pick like Martin the German heretic.
@avisiekesiezie7630
@avisiekesiezie7630 5 жыл бұрын
@Minutemen Revival Ephesians 2:8-9 " For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.", John 3:16, Romans 3:22-28, 9:30-32, Galatians 2:16.... the Bible repeatedly and clearly states that salvation is by the grace of God, meaning we are born in the spirit and as such, we do good works not because our salvation depends on it but because the spirit of God is bearing fruit (Galatians 5:22-23 " But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. Against such things there is no law."). By saying that salvation can be attained through good works, we belittle God's perfect righteous standards (Romans 3:23) and also imply that Christ's sacrifice wasn't necessary (Galatians 2:21 " if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"). Salvation through grace does not mean that we should continue to sin. Rather, we should live to honor God because of our gratitude towards Him and also to hold good testimony to those around us so that they may also come to know God. Genuine goodness is when you do good works even if you won't get in trouble for not doing good. And this is how God wants us to use our freedom through Christ.
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld 5 жыл бұрын
@@avisiekesiezie7630 It doesn't imply that at all. Scripture maintains that works and faith are on equal footing. They are both necessary. Catholics don't say that works are superior to faith or grace the same way that we don't say tradition is superior to scripture. Again, both are equal and necessary. What protestants do in error is proclaim that one beats the other, and these are never supported. No biblical verse upholds either sola fide or sola scriptura.
@michaelmolig971
@michaelmolig971 5 жыл бұрын
1. 1 Cor 3:12-15 speaks of the possibility of someone losing his or her rewards in heaven but he or she is still saved. Verse 15 particularly doesn't speak about purgatory. 2. FAITH = SALVATION = Good Works, NOT Faith + Good Works = Salvation. 3. GOD created the universe through HIS words. If you think words are sort formless MATTER then maybe you are right. 4. This is about the books in the pre-JESUS era which are in question. Of course, the Jews rejected JESUS so it goes with it their rejection of the New Testament.
@eoinginty2675
@eoinginty2675 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched Trent Horn's response to this video and he does an incredible job taking apart everyone single one of Allen Parr's objection to the Deuterocanonical books and shows where Allen is being inconsistent in his reasoning for rejecting certain books of the Bible. I encourage people who have watched this video to watch Trent's video as well to get a balanced view on this issue. Trent's channel name is The Counsel of Trent.
@hervedavidh4117
@hervedavidh4117 4 жыл бұрын
Even if they watched It, many won't admit the reality. They better do it tho !
@MystoRobot
@MystoRobot 4 жыл бұрын
This channel did it too. It's astonishing how protestants such as Parr can fall so deep into error just because they never bothered doing proper research: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8
@856elijah
@856elijah 3 жыл бұрын
if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all...especially when one is misinformed. The Apocrypha was originally included in the Bible. The discussion (imho) should be WHY was it removed? House "Brother"; Field "Brother". Will it ever end?
@isaacvr6947
@isaacvr6947 3 жыл бұрын
The book of Enoch is literally quoted and mentioned in the New Testament though..? I will not discard it's valuable information.
@scottmalcolm1974
@scottmalcolm1974 3 жыл бұрын
What’s valuable about it ??? 😂
@mBulk11
@mBulk11 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottmalcolm1974 A lot
@texeiracorrea2708
@texeiracorrea2708 3 жыл бұрын
Never discard the book of Enoch, Jesus mentions him and in the first book of Gen it says "And Enoch was taken up with God and was no more" right before Noah. The Earth's flat, nephilim are real and Not fallen angels but their offspring, Giant trees ECT. I'm glad you stuck with Enoch.
@Deagle-lj7tv
@Deagle-lj7tv 3 жыл бұрын
The book of Enoch is not part of the Apocrapha, it's a dead sea scrolls book, same with the book of Adam and Eve
@SifisoJcooler
@SifisoJcooler 3 жыл бұрын
Very valuable as it gives you a grand view of understanding of God's Love and Will for mankind as well as the enormous power that Jehovah Jahra has. The Book of Daniel gives you a taste of spiritual warfare and that in Enoch you get to see the beginning of it. Read and get understanding.
@dorimahu1
@dorimahu1 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you man of God. I'm a teacher myself and I am elated that you took the time to explain this to the people. It's something that I had to do as well, as I debated with others who were operating in ignorance. What's sad is that I came out of a Pentecostal Church and I heard there were preachers who were preaching and quoted from the Apocrypha themselves. The problem is that people are not seeking the Lord for truth and understanding. No one is fasting and praying and asking the Lord to confirm anything through the Holy Spirit anymore. They are just basing everything off of someone else's teachings and their intellect and that's why there are so many people giving in to false teachings. People need to realize that the Apocrypha was written during a time when God, because of His anger and displeasure had stopped speaking to His people. For 400 years, He was silent, until He sent John the Baptist. It was man who decided they needed to finish the scriptures. And to add to the Bible. But they did it without the guidance of the Holy Spirit or confirmation by the prophets. And the fact that the Jews and even Jesus Himself, who was also a Jew and the Apostles rejected these writings and didn't even reference them in the New Testament, should be all the evidence that people need to understand that these books should be rejected. But Satan is cunning and deceitful. He is the father of lies and has deceived many people into accepting these other teachings. The Bible tells us that we shouldn't seek after being teachers, knowing that the judgment for us will be harsher than others. You have to be called to be a true Kingdom Teacher. You have to be anointed by the Lord. Have to allow the Holy Spirit to guide you as you research and study to be able to rightly divide the Word of Truth. And many people are not called and are teaching based off of their own understanding. These false teachers are going to have to give an account for misleading so many people. And those who just accept it, without seeking the Lord through prayer and fasting, will be held accountable too. The Apocrypha is the Word of God people. It's the word of man, who tried to add to the Word of God because God stopped sending people to write scriptures. Please pray and fast about it, sincerely and I assure you that the Lord will confirm what this man is teaching as being true. God Bless You.
@parsonscarlson7984
@parsonscarlson7984 3 жыл бұрын
"The Apocrypha is the Word of God people." I trust you meant "The Apocrypha is NOT the Word of God people. Good message otherwise.
@dwightrucker7750
@dwightrucker7750 3 жыл бұрын
Your right
@dustygatrell-ru7tg
@dustygatrell-ru7tg Жыл бұрын
My mom told me that I'll know in my heart if apogrypha is legit because the holy spirit will tell me. Truth be told, I stopped reading the apogrypha because it didn't feel right. I was convicted by it. An that's the evidence I need. Godbless.
@Waltstuff
@Waltstuff 4 жыл бұрын
The first ad on this video was for a Catholic high school. I love irony.
@mrjamjoe
@mrjamjoe 3 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of videos on cars, so my ads are about cars. If I watch movies on KZbin, the ads will be of new upcoming movies on Amazon.
@charlenea6180
@charlenea6180 3 жыл бұрын
Catholic high schools are actually good places for instilling morals
@Abraham-bs6bo
@Abraham-bs6bo 3 жыл бұрын
As if Allen has control over what ads will be coming up
@MrzBadaBing
@MrzBadaBing 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlenea6180 this right here . I went to catholic school myself and if it’s wasn’t for that school I wouldn’t have known nothing about god. No one ever told me once god loved me or was on my side . I had to figure it out on my own but catholic school helped me put that fear in me when it came to sin . So I thank that school for that .
@ScarfLess117
@ScarfLess117 3 жыл бұрын
Irony is not Coincidence
@MikeOnTheHomestead
@MikeOnTheHomestead 10 ай бұрын
The Book of Wisdom is one of my favorites, especially chapter 3!!!
@mcshit3359
@mcshit3359 5 жыл бұрын
9:44 again, from an OT perspective this does in fact make sense. People had atonement for sins at the temples in other forms. Yet i do not hear you saying "lets remove Leviticus 16:5-16". You KNOW that that no longer applies to us because now we have Jesus. But at THAT TIME they did not. It seems to me you're deliberately misrepresenting these clearly canonical books.
@taurinjani
@taurinjani 5 жыл бұрын
retarded ass games u have a good point there
@taurinjani
@taurinjani 5 жыл бұрын
Can u also explain the one about the dead people praying?
@miguelnavarro4663
@miguelnavarro4663 3 жыл бұрын
@@taurinjani You are the one with the burden of proof, you have to tell me in what part of the "protestant" bible says dead people can't pray
@DeVonMArtis
@DeVonMArtis 3 жыл бұрын
Boom! There it is. I bet he won’t respond to your common sense and very logical point. Excellent job at rightly dividing.
@evan7618
@evan7618 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelnavarro4663 Ecclesiastes 9:5
@sarahola93
@sarahola93 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on if Near Death Experiences are biblical?
@thebeatagp
@thebeatagp 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for suggesting this topic! Please add it to this list so I can consider it for future videos: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qD297dhWp93IWwEZgLNOFTfxaXFrxsPBjQTiFgzrZkM/edit?usp=sharing
@michaeldye7783
@michaeldye7783 5 жыл бұрын
Don't think it matters regarding NDEs because thats a personal experience and we already have athiest and agnostic s challenging people whe experience such NDEs,to dogmatize rejected opinions of an experience not felt by all but many in my opinion is crazy much like exepting the slain in the spirit garbage by pentecostals which is plainly un biblical
@longislandbahamas7772
@longislandbahamas7772 5 жыл бұрын
Don't believe those people who say they've had some vision or dream, etc. Don't even listen to them. Stick to the scriptures only.
@andrewmah2962
@andrewmah2962 5 жыл бұрын
@@thebeatagp Could you do a video on alternate realities?
@sharnaepegues7025
@sharnaepegues7025 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Mah There are no alternate realities. That doesn’t match with the biblical scriptures.
@gilbertoaviles4586
@gilbertoaviles4586 5 жыл бұрын
I was on the fence about this topic but after watching this video I'm convinced the Apochrypha is absolutely not scriptural by a long shot. Thanks for sharing friend!
@XeenMusic
@XeenMusic 8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry that this video pushed you into the wrong direction. If lies were forbidden to be used to persuade someone to their point of view, then almost the entirety of this video would not exist. I'm hoping for a public debate with this guy, so I can publically confront him for these lies. Here a list: #1 - Catholics are not the only group that acccepts these books, so it's not a Catholic debate - its a debate against modern Christianity versus the first 1600 years of Christianity. #2 - misrepresentation of what 2 Maccabees teaches #3 - misrepresentation of what Tobit teaches (Tobit itself provides the context even, that shows that he's taking it out of context), also both Jesus and Daniel teach the same thing #4 - misrepresentation of what Barcuh teaches #5 - Wisdom 11:17 does not contradict Genesis is any way shape or form -- I'm at a loss of words to understand the logic behind this claim (if that's the absolute best he can find, something that agrees 100% with the bible) then that proves there's nothing wrong with the book #6 - lie that Jews rejected those books #7 - lie that Josephus rejected those books #8 - "the blood to Abel to Zechariah" is clearly nothing to with a canonical statement #9 - lie that New Testament never quotes so-called Apocrypha #10 - this is the absolute biggest lie in the entire video that proves that this person has absolutely no idea whatsoever what they are talking about -- that no one until the 16th century accept them (this lie is so ridiculous - the only people in 1600 years that seem to show some doubt about them was a few people btween 350-400AD, but they got over that and continued to accept them like all Christians did before then)
@eveangel8967
@eveangel8967 7 ай бұрын
@@XeenMusicwhere do Jesus and Daniel teach the same as what is said in Tobit?
@XeenMusic
@XeenMusic 7 ай бұрын
@@eveangel8967 #1 - For almsgiving rescues out of death and it cleans from every sin. The ones who are doing almsgiving will be filled with food of life; the ones who are doing sin and unrighteousness are warring against their own soul. (Tobit 12:9) & “For by giving alms, you will be storing up good treasure against a day of necessity. For that reason, almsgiving rescues one from death, and keeps one from entering into the darkness. For almsgiving is a good gift in the sight of the Most-High for all who give it.” (4:9~11) #2 - Nevertheless, all of you, give the things which are within for alms, and, behold, all things will be clean to you. (Luke 11:39) #3 - Therefore, O King, let my advice seem good to you, and abolish your sin in righteousness and your iniquities by giving alms to poor persons; behold, a lengthening shall come to your prosperity." (Daniel 4:27) It should also be noted that the context of Tobit with almsgiving has to do with physical consequences in this life. If the person actually read the book, they would know what "rescuing one from death" and "keeps one from entering the darkness means", because the book explains this: Tobit 14:10-11 “Look, my boy, at what Nadin did to Aciykar, the one who nourished him. Did not Aciykar go down alive into the earth? And yet God redressed the dishonor which was done to his person. And Aciykar came out again to see the light, but Nadin passed into the darkness which lasts even to the age, because he had sought to kill-off Aciykar. Because he did alms, Aciykar was saved out of a snare of the death which Nadin pitched for him, but Nadin fell-in into the trap instead, and it caused him to become lost. 11 And now, little-boys-and-girls, see what almsgiving does, and what unrighteousness does-how it kills off.” This is referring to a situation, in which Nadin plots against the righteous Aciykar and has him slanderously put in a physical prison. But because of the fact that Aciykar had been giving alms, this shows that he was a righteous man and the king recognizes this and saves him out of the prison before the day of his execution, and Nadin ends up falling into his own trap and is killed. So this provides an example of what the quotation is referring to in the book itself. So thisKZbin video is failing to show the readers the context of the quotations, and are distorting the truth to make those verses sound like something they are not saying and making it seem like they teach something contrary to the rest of the bible, when they do not.
@Inahsjuicespot
@Inahsjuicespot 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! You can really see how spiritually discerned this brother allen parr is
@annakareninnav2427
@annakareninnav2427 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Allen. I think you failed to lead your followers to the history and when and how the Protestantcame up with the 66 books. If Catholics added the deuterocanonical books in 1546, then Martin Luther beat us to the punch: He included them in his first German translation, published the Council of Trent. They can also be found in the first King James Version (1611) and in the first Bible ever printed, the Gutenberg Bible (a century before Trent). In fact, these books were included in almost every Bible until the Edinburgh Committee of the British Foreign Bible Society excised them in 1825. Until then, they had been included at least in an appendix of Protestant Bibles. It is historically demonstrable that Catholics did not add the books, Protestants took them out.
@spyroninja
@spyroninja 4 жыл бұрын
If he did more research, he would be forced to forfeit his Protestant position. So it makes sense that he didn't
@annakareninnav2427
@annakareninnav2427 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Cutler agree. Then that is clearly a disservice to his thousands of followers. Poor souls :(
@Jackoosh1
@Jackoosh1 4 жыл бұрын
It's kind of self refuting too-- "praying for the dead is not in the Bible so I don't believe it and it shouldn't be in the Bible"
@kycool8684
@kycool8684 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Brother Allen, it is very educational. I am noticing that a lot of comments that disagree use their emotions and not arguments.
@kycool8684
@kycool8684 3 жыл бұрын
For clarification, I love my Catholic brothers and sisters, I was just pointing out that one side was using arguments to make their case as far as I could tell.
@doll.ov.poetrii4682
@doll.ov.poetrii4682 9 ай бұрын
​@christsavesreadromans1096 Exactly!
@marielacandie
@marielacandie 3 жыл бұрын
Allen, I wish this was in Spanish, maybe with your permission I’ll translate them in videos of my own. But this is excellent content especially for the Hispanic community.
@unam9931
@unam9931 3 жыл бұрын
In fact this video is filled with low level arguments
@charlenea6180
@charlenea6180 3 жыл бұрын
@@unam9931 how
@MrRobfullarton
@MrRobfullarton 3 жыл бұрын
@Jacob Posego He did not even want the book of Revelations in the Bible either, apparently!
@robinallums4541
@robinallums4541 7 ай бұрын
This man is teaching WAY above his level of understanding. It’s like watching a 5th grader explain why calculus doesn’t make any sense. Sir, every scripture you read from the apocrypha was misinterpreted and completely misunderstood by you. maybe you should pray for more understanding on this subject.
@zachpeters4253
@zachpeters4253 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Orthodox? Everyone always leaves them out, and you lose tons of credibility by doing so.
@vladlucius6928
@vladlucius6928 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t orthodox include the book of Enoch?
@ljss6805
@ljss6805 3 жыл бұрын
@@vladlucius6928 No. Only Ethiopian Orthodox. Whatever, Protestants don't get a say in what is the Bible or not. They should be happy we gave it to them in the first place.
@NoahS-cp2lt
@NoahS-cp2lt 3 жыл бұрын
@@ljss6805 the idea that your church gave the word of God shows that you clearly don't take it seriously.
@ljss6805
@ljss6805 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoahS-cp2lt We don't take it seriously? We wrote it and copied it; the only reason you have it is because we did all that. So, as I said, if you don't like it, give it back.
@NoahS-cp2lt
@NoahS-cp2lt 3 жыл бұрын
@@ljss6805 you wrote it? Not the prophets? Not the apostles? Not God himself? The Catholic Church wrote the Bible? Is that what you're saying? Because if that's what you mean, I'm sorry to hear that you've somehow been taught that but that is entirely false. Going further, God intended his word for all people of the Earth, if you believe that somehow you have ownership over God and his word, then you are simply wrong. I'll say it again: If you believe that somehow you have ownership over God and his word, them you are Simply WRONG.
@joseph9531
@joseph9531 5 жыл бұрын
The word of God in proverbs says that the dead know nothing!! Chai!
@odaniel5000
@odaniel5000 5 жыл бұрын
Ecclesiastes 9:5
@joseph9531
@joseph9531 5 жыл бұрын
@@odaniel5000 Thanks for the correction bro!
@oliverqueen6077
@oliverqueen6077 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew 22: 31-32 31But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
@ninjaman6861
@ninjaman6861 5 жыл бұрын
f I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. He may not be God of the Dead; Thats Appolyons job, but his power sure does extend over there. How would Appolyon do a thing without God's command?
@henrybarton811
@henrybarton811 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus said, "For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him." This seems to mean that there is no god of the dead.
@BajeBeauty
@BajeBeauty 4 жыл бұрын
Just found one of these bibles in my house. Turns out my husband bought it years ago just figuring it was a regular bible. When I opened it and saw these new books I had to come research and see what it was ! So thanks for the video
@willthoele830
@willthoele830 3 жыл бұрын
Look at Dr. Taylor Marshall's video on these books
@littledrummergirl_19
@littledrummergirl_19 3 жыл бұрын
Trent Horn also does a rebuttal of this video! Both he and Marshall are good places to check for info on this
@israylysrayl1389
@israylysrayl1389 2 жыл бұрын
don't thank him, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. use you're own discernment and ask Yah for guidence
@juliang3995
@juliang3995 5 ай бұрын
They are not new, they've always been there. Only Luther did them away, but at the same time he also tried to throw out James, Revelation, and Hebrews so his temper was most certainly "inspired" (not).
@karenallen5208
@karenallen5208 3 ай бұрын
This is absolutely the best explanation I've heard about why the Apocrypha is not in the Bible. Thank you for the enlightenment.
@kediboneseku9899
@kediboneseku9899 3 жыл бұрын
I need more clarity on these 'divinely inspired' referral to why other books were accepted while others were rejected. What are the characteristics of a divinely inspired book? Does it mean as a mere human being I can still reject some books that are in the Bible because I deem then not to be divinely inspired or do not make much sense to me?
@cjpips
@cjpips 2 жыл бұрын
Ask God to confirm the words you don't understand and for wisdom and understanding. Also the scripture all points to Jesus Redeeming us
@duppy9012
@duppy9012 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjpips Does it tho? in Ezekiel 18:20 it literally says "He who follows my decrees and faithfully keeps my laws that man is righteous; He will surely live DECLARES THE SOVERIGN LORD (GOD)"
@alfonstabz9741
@alfonstabz9741 2 жыл бұрын
their was a set of standard criteria use to determine what books are divinely inspired and to be included in the bible. As said personal opinion was not part of it. The church did not compile the bible base on what people personal opinion.
@alfonstabz9741
@alfonstabz9741 2 жыл бұрын
check trent horns rebuttal
@michaelbanda9993
@michaelbanda9993 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfonstabz9741 Catholicism is heresy
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 4 жыл бұрын
Your opinion is not inspired Jesus started one church and said it would last FOREVER. The Roman Catholic Church. And that church says the apocrypha IS INSPIRED
@ansich3603
@ansich3603 7 ай бұрын
church based on Jesus Christ not specific institution
@Ken-dh2te
@Ken-dh2te 5 ай бұрын
Roman Catholicism is heretical and apostate.
@cloudsss610
@cloudsss610 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how I was just wondering about all of this, and talking to my Catholic friend about it. Definitely helped me understand it a lot more! Thank you!
@Ricky-ql6ib
@Ricky-ql6ib 2 жыл бұрын
Go watch Trent Horn's rebuttal of this video. You may be surprised at how wrong Alan is in this video
@spartanastas
@spartanastas 2 жыл бұрын
The books that Protestants removed from the Bible are not Apocrypha to the Original Church. Maccabees talks about how they got tired of standing there and getting killed. Just to be clear, Mr. Parr says Judas, but it's not the Judas of the New Testament. They pray for the dead so that the Lord will have mercy on the fallen people's souls... Only the living can pray, so when someone dies, they are no longer able to pray because their body is gone. We pray for them for mercy. The money is not to buy favor... it's a sacrifice of our property... for works asking forgiveness for their sins. It's a selfless act. So Mr. Parr needs to understand things in context before he condemns them. Praying for someone on their behalf is not a sin. It's actually what Christ tells us to do. And if the dead can't pray, then we are their only source of prayer. Why would it be bad to ask Christ to forgive the sins of a sinner? We are all sinners. The money for the collection of Drachmae was for a jewish custom where they would do a sacrifice to cleanse people of their sin. We don't do animal sacrifices anymore, but praying for the dead, on their behalf, is a kind thing to do for a soul who can not ask forgiveness for their own sins. The reason why Mr. Parr doesn't understand this is because he comes to Maccabees with preconceived notions that we pray to dead people. NOPE. We pray to Christ to forgive them, and we have memorials and liturgies to lift them up from sin, because that is how the Jews did things. The virgin Mary interceded on the behalf of the wedding party in Canan, and Christ changed HIs mind and made wine from water... Why can't we pray to Christ to have mercy on someone's soul who has fallen asleep to the Lord? I want people to pray for me after I die, and everyone should. As a matter of fact, the Orthodox Church prays for the Protestant dead to lift them up, because we know that there are people like Mr. Parr that do not understand the Context.
@mauricealexander3834
@mauricealexander3834 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could be as stupid as this brother.
@alfonstabz9741
@alfonstabz9741 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder why you protestant don't tell us what is the standard criteria that the Church used in determining what is inspired books to be included in the bible. Instead of ranting about your personal opinion just use the set of standard criteria set when the bible is compiled. as said no offense to you protestants the bible was not compile base on personal opinions but their is a standard and how they determined it.!
@michael-r4k
@michael-r4k 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfonstabz9741 What's the standard?
@lemontehall3069
@lemontehall3069 7 ай бұрын
Earlier I mistakingly referred to The book of Ruth when it should have been Ester. Still proving Apocryphal books line up with Cannonical books!! It is one work Period!! God didn’t give anyone the authority to remove or add anything to his Word!!
@rustysm8080
@rustysm8080 3 ай бұрын
So Catholics added to the Bible without God's approval. Seems like a big problem.
@lancemarchetti8673
@lancemarchetti8673 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with this summation by Allen, although I must add that Enoch's account of the ancient world definitely helped me understand texts like Genesis 6 , Psalm 82, Psalm89, Psalm91, 2 Peter and Jude concerning fallen Angels, demons and the Sons of God.
@rudihattingh5041
@rudihattingh5041 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Lance, I'm asking this as I haven't read Enoch, but how do you know that these explanations are actually correct? How does one discern? Please read this in a friendly tone with me asking the question with no ulterior motives.
@Whitechapelchap
@Whitechapelchap 2 жыл бұрын
Helping in understanding doesn't indicate validity, though.Satan can mix truth with lies enough to get in the door. This book tries to validate astrology as legit knowledge.
@therealgingerbeardman
@therealgingerbeardman 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whitechapelchap the book acknowledges astrology as the teachings of fallen angels, along with cosmetics for women, how to make medicines out of roots/plants, production of weapons, the secrets of mathematics, etc. Enoch really does give detail that lines up with the information we’re given in Genesis. While we shouldn’t accept Enoch as 100% truth, it gives an explanation to things that haven’t been explained elsewhere.
@rudihattingh5041
@rudihattingh5041 2 жыл бұрын
I know, but my question is - how do I know that it can be trusted?
@therealgingerbeardman
@therealgingerbeardman 2 жыл бұрын
@@rudihattingh5041 because of the way it was written and found, we can’t be certain it’s the truth or divinely inspired. The way I look at it, it gives the best explanation of science and history more-so than actual science and history textbooks. I choose to believe it until a better explanation is given.
@connormacleod1490
@connormacleod1490 4 жыл бұрын
Trent Horn just responded to this video and he answered every question and objection of Mr.Parr.
@BasilTU
@BasilTU 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I think everyone should see it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPQnYpvapmDras
@roseyv.6840
@roseyv.6840 3 ай бұрын
Thank God!
@HipHopNerdHarryGusto
@HipHopNerdHarryGusto 5 жыл бұрын
Matt. 6:19-20 - Jesus’ statement about laying up for yourselves treasure in heaven follows Sirach 29:11 - lay up your treasure. Matt… 7:12 - Jesus’ golden rule “do unto others” is the converse of Tobit 4:15 - what you hate, do not do to others. Matt. 7:16,20 - Jesus’ statement “you will know them by their fruits” follows Sirach 27:6 - the fruit discloses the cultivation. Matt. 9:36 - the people were “like sheep without a shepherd” is same as Judith 11:19 - sheep without a shepherd. Matt. 11:25 - Jesus’ description “Lord of heaven and earth” is the same as Tobit 7:18 - Lord of heaven and earth. Matt. 12:42 - Jesus refers to the wisdom of Solomon which was recorded and made part of the deuterocanonical books. Matt. 16:18 - Jesus’ reference to the “power of death” and “gates of Hades” references Wisdom 16:13. Matt. 22:25; Mark 12:20; Luke 20:29 - Gospel writers refer to the canonicity of Tobit 3:8 and 7:11 regarding the seven brothers. Matt. 24:15 - the “desolating sacrilege” Jesus refers to is also taken from 1 Macc. 1:54 and 2 Macc. 8:17. Matt. 24:16 - let those “flee to the mountains” is taken from 1 Macc. 2:28. Matt. 27:43 - if He is God’s Son, let God deliver him from His adversaries follows Wisdom 2:18. Mark 4:5,16-17 - Jesus’ description of seeds falling on rocky ground and having no root follows Sirach 40:15. Mark 9:48 - description of hell where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched references Judith 16:17.
@HipHip_Jorge
@HipHip_Jorge 7 ай бұрын
St Augustine quotes the book of Tobit in The City of God. Early church fathers quoted these books considered by Protestants to be non-canonical.
@tigerboy1966
@tigerboy1966 4 жыл бұрын
If I were being contrarian, I could say that the protestants just deleted all the books of the bible that they didn't like.
@kevint7288
@kevint7288 4 жыл бұрын
It's not contrarian if it's true though
@matthew8054
@matthew8054 3 жыл бұрын
James is still there.
@wardscott2302
@wardscott2302 3 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head.The Catholic Church was started but Jesus.All others by a man.
@pinkkow3417
@pinkkow3417 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why Jude quotes "the book of Enoch"1:4, 1:6 ,1:13 and Peter in 2nd letter,2:4 and 3:13 (i realize that not everything can be included in a short video. I just find that bit confusing. Have wondered for years.
@masonite6450
@masonite6450 3 жыл бұрын
The book of Enoch was well known, but rarely ever considered scripture. It was quoted for reference, but that doesn't mean it's divine scripture.
@IWasOnceAFetus
@IWasOnceAFetus 3 жыл бұрын
@@masonite6450 then why does Allen use that logic to declare that the deuterocanonical books are not scripture? Allen says that because these books weren't explicitly mentioned or quoted by Jesus or New Testament writers, these deuterocanonical books aren't scripture. And yet when someone from the New Testament does quote from a deuterocanonical book, they make a special exception for that. That's not consistent at all.
@Moe_510
@Moe_510 3 жыл бұрын
The book of Enoch is mostly a story written from the time before Noah. It tells you about the giants and fallen angels. It shouldn’t be ignored I read it and it tells you how the fallen angels fell and how they corrupt man kind
@commscompany1502
@commscompany1502 2 жыл бұрын
Because Allen is wrong. Watch Trent Horn s rebuttal to this video.
@mrmcface713
@mrmcface713 2 жыл бұрын
Jude and Peter where Quoting from The Person Enoch not The Book of Enoch
@BlessedLaymanNC
@BlessedLaymanNC 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of your finest videos. Thank you. I only tried to read the Apocrypha twice before, and it was so bland and dead compared to the Bible, that I quit reading it. Maybe you can answer this question, or add it to your reasons for rejecting the Apocrypha. Where is Christ in the Apocrypha? Throughout the Old Testament, Christ is portrayed either as being interacted with (Adam walking with God, Moses talking and meeting with Him, etc.), prophesied about, or portrayed as a "type" such as Joseph, Moses and other people during certain events, and with the Tabernacle. I am sure it is inevitable, that Christ is missing from these Apocryphal books. Maybe you can confirm it. Again, this is an excellent video, well done and with great supporting evidences. Thank you!
@thebeatagp
@thebeatagp 5 жыл бұрын
Buck McDaniel good observation. This is what some of the early church fathers were wrestling with also. Not only do these books not claim to be authoritative in their own writings, but, there is no evidence that they are authoritative or inspired. In other words, many of the other old testament books have types, shadows and prophecies that proof of divine authorship. None of that is found in these books.
@anauxistential8486
@anauxistential8486 5 жыл бұрын
🤦🏽‍♀️me when listening to the breakdown of apocrypha text. #falsedoctrines #runninghigh #incatholisim
@PVCGunita
@PVCGunita 5 жыл бұрын
Hello! I encourage you to watch this video too before coming to conclusions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8 In addition, yes, St. Jerome and other Church Fathers rejected at first these deuterocanonical books, but they also concluded and realize that it isn't their sole interpretation that make the absolute meaning, but rather the Church as a whole. That's why there have been many councils (before the Council of Trent) that reaffirm the canon of the Bible, which includes the deuterocanonical books: Hippo (393), Carthage (397, 419), II Nicea (787), Florence (1442). God Bless!
@BasilTU
@BasilTU 4 жыл бұрын
Buck, you can check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPQnYpvapmDras
@thewanderingamerican5412
@thewanderingamerican5412 8 ай бұрын
Whew. I am a lifelong Protestant, and much older than you. About three years ago I was confirmed in the ACNA, which I sadly found out is also a false church, and had to leave it. Then I became so desperate for a church community that I almost got sucked into Catholicism. Thank you so much for this video. I probably knew all of this years ago, but one forgets and needs to be reminded every once in awhile!
@OvercomeThroughJesus301
@OvercomeThroughJesus301 8 ай бұрын
Jesus didn’t come to start a religion brother. Just read the Bible, pray, and ask for guidance. God will answer you and guide you. Just won’t be on your time, our Heavenly Father’s time.
@patrickpelletier9298
@patrickpelletier9298 3 ай бұрын
It’s almost like you’re showing why Luther declared them not to be Canon after 1200 years of them being accepted as Canon.
@VarynDEE33t
@VarynDEE33t 2 ай бұрын
There were some respected church fathers prior to the 16th century that didn’t accept the canon. Yes, they might have been in the minority, but it’s not like the idea of a 66 canon was a completely new invention of the Reformation.
@foxxcgirl
@foxxcgirl 5 жыл бұрын
By the way the Pope has added and subtracted from the Lord’s prayer. He changed the verse that says lead us not into temptation... he said because God doesn’t tempt us so he added and subtracted what seems best. This was a few months ago and he said should be added to the Catholic Church misilet 😮😡 pls check it out. See it starts with minor adjustments
@SuperSaiyanKrillin
@SuperSaiyanKrillin 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus didn't speak in English last time I checked ? The translation change from the Pope is fine because its a better translation from the New Testament Greek
@eshieblues5767
@eshieblues5767 4 жыл бұрын
It is wrong to change the Bible Verse 😔😔😡😡😰😰
@foxxcgirl
@foxxcgirl 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSaiyanKrillin it doesn’t matter what language Jesus spoke, I’m sure the pope doesn’t speak the same or you. It’s not right to change ANYTHING God has written but .. that’s what the Roman Catholic Church does on soooo many levels
@eshieblues5767
@eshieblues5767 4 жыл бұрын
@@foxxcgirl True🙏
@Swissco9665
@Swissco9665 3 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree....It is all very much so relevant, it is amazing to see one go this far to say to reject any books that were most definitely APART of the BIBLE,
@michaelmetevia3462
@michaelmetevia3462 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's truly lost
@Jani-
@Jani- 2 жыл бұрын
I’m at about “8:43” in the video and I noticed that Allen Parr stated basically “Believers of Jesus aren’t able to or don’t have the right to raise the dead” which Jesus has proven to do so in the Bible. In Matthew 10:7-8 “ And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay. “ You also see this in 1 Kings 17:17-24 ( when Elijah called out to the Lord to raise a boy from the dead ). Christians are called to call upon the Lord and ask him for such miracles to occur especially if Jesus and Elijah are teaching us to do it, and I believe God will grant Life when he deem fit.
@jamiebirdsong395
@jamiebirdsong395 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that these books should never be in the Bible and Brother Parr I love how you break it down and straight to the point. May God continue to bless your ministry Sir!!!
@AbiyahbenJudah
@AbiyahbenJudah 5 жыл бұрын
What about the books you agree with that mention them. Should we disregard those books too or just that 1 verse you know like taking away from the Most High's word?
@jamiebirdsong395
@jamiebirdsong395 5 жыл бұрын
Good point!!!
@AbiyahbenJudah
@AbiyahbenJudah 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamiebirdsong395 he was misleading in this video
@daveo83
@daveo83 4 жыл бұрын
They were in the original word
@lonelyberg1316
@lonelyberg1316 4 жыл бұрын
Trent made a rebuttal video about this. I invite you to watch
@Olumedia
@Olumedia 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching us brother, God bless you and protect you as you minister!
@YamaraLoves
@YamaraLoves 4 жыл бұрын
As a pentecostal Evangelist, I ❤❤❤ my Catholic bible...its not about which Bible you read...its about being lead by the spirit of God who will speak to you during your studies. God want us all to love one another...all these different denominations are not of God! Love is the key ppl.
@FaithfulComforter
@FaithfulComforter 2 жыл бұрын
You got it we just have to live a Godly lifestyle. Lord and Savior, Jesus said love God and love all.
@batine1398
@batine1398 2 жыл бұрын
If you speak love, consider different Bibles and connect things together instead of basing all of your beliefs on one version. Don’t be afraid to admit you don’t know anything
@mariopiazza3379
@mariopiazza3379 4 жыл бұрын
What about Christians being baptized for the dead Corinthians 15:29: "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all?
@cesarcardona1984
@cesarcardona1984 4 жыл бұрын
Hi just wanted to share my thoughts with you, As the case with all passages, it is important to read it in context. In this case, it is enlightening to see how Paul, the author of 1 Corinthians, continues in verse 30: “And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?” In verse 29 he uses “they.” In verse 30 he switches to “we.” By doing this, Paul clearly distinguishes himself from those who were baptizing for the dead. In fact, by using the plural “we.” he includes others who are in jeopardy. He obviously refers to other Christians who were in danger of being persecuted. Therefore, we can definitely say the following: Paul never says he or any other Christian ever baptized the dead. The Bible never commands baptism for the dead. Verse 29 states a fact; it does not give a command. The LDS interpretation of the living being vicariously baptized for the dead violates the biblical teaching that death ends a person’s chance to repent and believe. OTHER BIBLE VERSES Proverbs 11:7 states: “When a wicked man dieth, his expectation shall perish: and the hope of unjust men perisheth.” Hebrews 9:27 makes the same point: “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.” The rich man in Jesus’s story recorded in Luke 16:19-31 has no hope of a better condition. CORRECTLY INTERPRETING 1 CORINTHIANS 15:29 So, what is the correct interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:29? We must admit that, although the original recipients of Paul’s letter knew exactly what he was referring to, we don’t know. Any explanation is only tentative. Just among conservative biblical scholars, there are dozens of different interpretations. Most of them center on the Greek preposition translated “for” in the phrase “for the dead.” It is a preposition which can be translated a number of different ways. The translation we prefer, especially because the context is all about the resurrection, is to translate it with “over”: “over the dead.” The scenario would be of a new believer being baptized over the grave of a departed loved one as a striking statement of their belief they would be reunited with them because of the resurrection. It must be emphasized, however, that this is only tentative. It must also be emphasized that, for the reasons cited above, we can definitely state that the LDS interpretation is completely false.
@mariopiazza3379
@mariopiazza3379 4 жыл бұрын
@@cesarcardona1984 thank you for you gracious reply, I really don't understand that verse, but what I get out of it is a that Paul, is reminding Christians that there is a resurrection and a life outside of this world that we inhabit. God bless you
@iceinferno7777
@iceinferno7777 4 жыл бұрын
the context is that if Jesus Christ didn't rise from the dead then why baptize people who in turn will be dead no matter what because if Jesus Christ didn't rise then all is in vain. Verse 12-13 clears this up and puts it into context. Great thing he rised from dead from God. HALLELUJAH!!!!!
@mariopiazza3379
@mariopiazza3379 4 жыл бұрын
@@iceinferno7777 my good friend thank you for your reply. The 15 the chapter of 1st Corinthians is an amazing chapter full or information on the death and resurrection, the type of resurrection body the rapture. The simple fact that people are baptizing people for the dead is not explained, nor do I understand why this could be done. Also Paul states that they that are asleep will rise, as Christian I believe that Christ has destroyed death, upon our departure from our bodies we go directly to be with the Lord Jesus Christ in heaven. Who are those that sleep?
@fernandou1704
@fernandou1704 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on this. I'd point out that you really got the catholic teaching wrong from the very beginning. I don't know if it was an attempt to straw-man the catholic doctrine, or if it's simply a result of a misunderstanding. Anyway, thanks a lot, for I truly believe you did this video with love and with the purpose of bringing people closer to what you believe is the truth of Jesus Christ. I'd recommend you see Trent Horn's answer to your video, where he actually explains the catholic teaching and rejects the historical facts that you present as evidence in a terrific manner.
@goldie862
@goldie862 2 ай бұрын
This is the fruit of protestantism, which is self-refuting. If anyone can reach "the truth" by claiming to be guided by the Holy Spirit, we wouldn't have over 30,000 "churches" that disagree with one another
@janus2279
@janus2279 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Allan for another great video! Keep up the good work. Hope you have a great day! God bless you
@PVCGunita
@PVCGunita 5 жыл бұрын
Hello sir! Please watch this video too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8 God Bless on your journey!
@sabrinal3809
@sabrinal3809 2 жыл бұрын
The very definition of Apocryphal in Webster’s Dictionary is “of doubtful authenticity; SPURIOUS.” The best lies are the ones closest to the truth. We really have to pray for discernment in this life and for the Holy Spirit to reveal what is truth and what is deception. Great video! Thanks!
@joseph9531
@joseph9531 5 жыл бұрын
Here's a thought my pastor had on praying for the dead: if they didn't or had trouble praying for for you while living, you can forget them praying for when you are actually dead🤣🤣🤣
@takmaps
@takmaps 4 жыл бұрын
A different perspective on deutoronocanonicals if you are in search of truth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX_VlHqPatSYaa8
@pressstartforgod4621
@pressstartforgod4621 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video; a lot of non believers I speak to always brings up missing books from the Bible, or question why some bibles are missing/added books that others don’t have! Great watch brother!
@AdamTheRaptor
@AdamTheRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
I just recently learned about the Apocrypha and I was very curious about it. Your vid is the second one I watched and I agree completely brother. Thanks for this! Be blessed 🙌
@utherpendragon4227
@utherpendragon4227 2 жыл бұрын
You blew me away with that statement from King Messiah affirming those specific books, praise and glory to God forever.Thank you.
@markwiygul6356
@markwiygul6356 4 жыл бұрын
the Apocrypha includes the missing Gap In Time between the Old and New Testaments, the period of "Hellenization" after Alexander the Great and the Greeks absorbed Persia, Jerusalem and Egypt (333BC) up until the coming of Christ (1AD). During this time Synagogues and Rabbis became mainline parts of the faith. "Hebrew" is a Greek word that refers the chosen people, the Israelites, those from the later city-state of Jerusalem (the Jews). The word "Hebrew" makes it's very first appearance in these Middle Testament books of the Apocrypha in the original tongue of it's writers, Greek. Yes "Hebrew" is a Greek word. The Old Testament was re-translated into Greek (becoming the Septuagint) with the native words of the Old Testament referring to the chosen people, now retranslated to also include the new Greek word, "Hebrew". It is because of this period of Hellenization that the later New Testament was penned in Greek, rather than any other language, like the Apocrypha had been penned. In the New Testament, Jesus goes to Jerusalem to celebrate The Feast of Dedication of the Temple in John 10.22. What is the Feast of Dedication of the Temple? You need to be familiar with the Middle Testament (the Apocrypha) to understand. 1 MACCABEES 4. [52] Early in the morning on the twenty-fifth day of the ninth month, which is the month of Chislev, in the one hundred forty-eighth year, [53] they rose and offered sacrifice, as the law directs, on the new altar of burnt offering that they had built. [nrsv] - - Today this is called "Hanukkah". Jesus observed it on the 25th of the month of Chislev in Jerusalem. - - - Today this gnosis is removed from the knowledge of the body of Christ. Contrary to what some believe, Protestants use to commonly have the "Middle Testament" in their Bibles until the 19th Century when removing it prevailed. At first it was to cut the expense of publication as the most important was the New Testament, and then of lesser importance was the Old Testament, and of still lesser importance was the Middle Testament (Apocrypha). Just as copies of the New Testament without the Old Testament does not mean that the Old Testament is not "inspired" when the first Bibles were printed without the Apocrypha, it did not originally imply that the Apocrypha was not "inspired" or part of the Complete Bible Canon. It was simply less relevant as it contained more of the modern Hebrew traditions rather than the more ancient Hebrew lore, such as Adam and Eve, Noah, Abraham, King David and Solomon and later prophets like Jonah, Isiah and Ezekiel. ...So, they were removed because the cost of Bible Publishing increased exponentially as the physical books grew in size beyond the abilities to use "new" Printing Presses (rather than hand scribes). Protestants like Martin Luther did use the Apocrypha, as did their congregations. Just as some carry around a New Testament because of size and cost restraints, so too were the original Bibles with just the Old and New Testaments. Now, it has become such an established tradition among Protestants to remove those books that they no longer consider them as part of the Bible. Nevertheless, the Apocrypha remains a critical piece of the puzzle that connects the Old Testament and the New Testament. Considering the Apocrypha as Not part of the Bible is part of the 20th Century anti-gnosis movement that wants to govern with dogma and remove understanding from "faith". In the end, that will lead to religious zombies who along know dogma, and are unable to rationalize their own beliefs, but rather simply explain everything with "because they said so". That is the anti-gnosis concept we call dogma today. "gnosis" is a Greek word, written into the Apocrypha for the first time, and it means "enlightenment" a form of "understanding" that's different from Technical "howto" knowledge or "law knowledge" (dogma) but rather it implies the knowledge (or light) being shined on mysteries, reveling an understandable truth, much like a light washing away darkness. If you live in dogma without gnosis, you live in the darkness without understanding, simply observing religious laws. Turn on the lights and Understand, become Enlightened, become Gnostic. Gnosis is about eliminating mysteries and coming to an understanding with an "I see now, I finally fully understand". Read the Apocrypha because it is Part of the Bible, and has been according to every major denomination until just a hundred years ago. sadly, Protestants now live in an agnostic Religion (a-gnosis, or Greek for without knowledge). Yes, they are the ones who are truly Agnostic.
@agentclol
@agentclol 3 жыл бұрын
The apocrypha are historical; not part of the Bible though. I’m well aware of Hanukkah and where it comes from dude. It was for the de-desolation of the temple. This was a very Jewish thing. But it doesn’t make the Apocrypha more than historical. Please don’t misrepresent Protestants like me next time bro.
@jeronjoseph5691
@jeronjoseph5691 3 жыл бұрын
@@agentclol They are historical that's the point and they should have been in every Bible
@jeronjoseph5691
@jeronjoseph5691 3 жыл бұрын
@@agentclol it is part of the Bible that most Christians practice
@ajbondoc4781
@ajbondoc4781 3 жыл бұрын
Since when the praying for the dead filling up the gap?
@lovedavis9572
@lovedavis9572 4 жыл бұрын
the scriptures said that whatsoever think we're written before time was written for our learning!
@trailrvs
@trailrvs 4 жыл бұрын
Trent Horn just posted a rebuttal of this video that is so thorough that I am amazed that you still have this posted! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPQnYpvapmDras
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