What Love is This? - Dave Hunt

[@stephaniebeaulieu6382]

What a wonderful man of God who can humbly and sweetly and respectfully show the complex mental gymnastics it takes to believe in Calvinism.

[@chapmaned24]

For those who don't know, Dave Hunt passed away to be with the Lord on April 5, 2013. God Bless him. RIP.

[@ChildofGod-q7j]

Amen. I've just discovered him. Amazing teachings and truths. I believe God guided me to him and his teachings. Love 2 u

[@garygiff2024]

Jesus said you will know who mine are by their fruit. The witness of Holy Spirit does not abide in Dave Hunt. He is dry as a desert.

[@chapmaned24]

@@garygiff2024 What's your evidence? I've heard nothing but good about him. CALVINISTS are the ones full of hate. What love is that?

[@ToOpen6seven]

@@garygiff2024 What kind of ignorant and unbiblical comment was this? Dave Hunt was the epitome of bearing GODLY fruit based on the Holy Scriptures of God!

[@garygiff2024]

@@ToOpen6seven He not born of God,s Eternal Spirit is the how one knows ( Jesus said you will know who mine are by their fruit ) , not at all by the words they speak. Also an early Apostle warned to not be deceived with words!

[@justadude8539]

He explained Calvinism perfectly. How anyone can remain Calvinist is beyond me

[@veronicapace7198]

just a dude now I understand how one world religion is taking root..

[@cynthiahunter2570]

He was wrong in so many respects. But, he used his own understanding and when he did use scripture, he misapplied it.

[@Drummr88]

​@Cynthia Hunter He was one of the few to oppose and warn against the infiltration of heretical new age and occultic doctrines into the church. Praise God for raising up men like Dave Hunt! 👍

[@intentionally-blank]

@@cynthiahunter2570 For example?

[@melissawalker3888]

@@intentionally-blank Still waiting? Don't hold your breath.

[@OkieAllDay]

I appreciate Mr. Hunt's insight into biblical truth. Calvinism is a heresy from the pit of hell

[@josephgarrett3075]

What do you mean by heresy and how is it heretical?

[@OkieAllDay]

@@josephgarrett3075 It says that God determines every action and atom in the universe. NOTHING happens outside of His will (not just that He allows it to happen, but that it happens exactly as He would want it). So every murder, rape, or blasphemy is actually God's will being accomplished - but He will still punish people for doing the very things that He wants to do. Not to mention Calvinism also shows God loving a select group of people. And only wanting the best for a certain group of people. Most Calvinists also believe Jesus only died for a limited group of people. All of these things were found nowhere in the first 300+ years of the church but it is now equated with the Gospel to many Calvinists

[@bsusie1]

@@josephgarrett3075 How can you listen to this teaching and not see the heresy taught in Calvinism? Just curious.

[@josephgarrett3075]

@@bsusie1 I haven't listened to this specific teaching of Dave's but I have others, as well as James White's response(s) to Dave Hunt claims. I appreciate your question and not being rude, I think the most frustrating part behind these conversations is how quick people go to that, and in what I've seen- the vast majority of the time it is non-Calvinists who are rude/mean/etc. to Calvinists. Before I answer though sister, I'd like to ask some questions as well. Is it possible for Calvinism to be wrong, yet not heresy? (as with many other doctrines). I ask this, because I notice that it is more often than not that non-Calvinists think that Calvinism is heresy than the other way around. This has at minimum, puzzled me, and at other times confused or been upsetting (especially when seeing much of the negative and divisive comment interactions online). Have you heard James White's responses to Dave Hunt before? I would encourage you to listen to them so as to hear both sides. I think White does a good job of addressing the claims from the other side. To answer your question- I don't think Calvinism is heresy because I believe the major doctrines of Calvinism (doctrines of Grace or TULIP) represent what the Bible teaches on the natural condition of fallen mankind, how we are saved and the nature of the work of Christ in the atonement. If you have any further questions or would like to dialogue more, I'd be glad to sister :) In Christ, JG

[@bsusie1]

@@josephgarrett3075 Thank you, for your sincere, humble response. It is sad how often when we disagree that we get anger and judgement from those when our response should be in love. Now to try to respond without being too wordy😊 I spent my younger years in a Catholic orphanage, where religion and performance were forced on me. I spent years after that believing in God, but felt far from knowing His love and acceptance. I got into WOF for years, and then listened to some NAR. A few years ago, our Father in His mercy started revealing the lies I was believing. My heart cry became, Father, please reveal your truth and deliver me. As I researched I saw how pervasive the Calvinist teachers seems to be. I’ve listened to many, and am familiar with the TULIP. In the definition of heresy, yes, I would say some of it is. I found a couple of KZbin channels that helped me. One is Mike Winger, and the other is Soteriology, by Leighton Flowers. Leighton was a Calvinist for 9 or 10 years. He does an excellent presentation on the beliefs of Calvinism. I know we all read our Bible from the perspective of our beliefs. I would not say that a Calvinist or a Catholic is destined for eternal separation. I just see at this time that some of their beliefs are far from the Father that I’ve come to know. I’m committed to follow the truth as the Holy Spirit teaches me. May we both know Him as He is, and trust Him to guide us into truth. Blessing to you, my brother💕

[@justadude8539]

Dave hunt was an amazing Godly man. Now he’s with the father who I’m sure is well pleased with him.

[@sinthalis]

Calvanism: When thinking you're better than other people just isn't good enough. I read this statement online once, and it made me chuckle, but I guess it was more accurate then I realized.

[@debrahj.knight433]

I am enjoying Dave Hunts teaching, learning and strengthening my faith and resolve. I watch more than once.

[@ChildofGod-q7j]

I've just discovered Dave Hunt and his teachings. God led me to him I believe. Love q u

[@garygiff2024]

Bear in mind having the appearance of ( sincere) is not salvation at all. This is another of the devil,s apostles.

[@timcarlG]

@@garygiff2024 - I'll quote you - & Yes it appears you are what you call others - "This is another of the devil,s apostles."

[@jubileeYAVEL]

Mr york was a friend of his and he has some AMAZING seminars on the SFMI youtube channel. I watch them often.

[@brendaann727]

@@garygiff2024 -It's not any sincerity at all that is appealing or making it worthwhile to listen. It's that he knows what he's talking about and knows God's book so well. So few really do that. One person said that some missionaries read the bible so much that it was all worn out with words in between the lines. Another said that a worn out bible is a sign of a person that is not. I wonder what Dave's bible looked like, and who has it? Probably his children if he had them.

[@Steamshovel]

Dave Hunt is amongst the few that really gets to the truth and can teach it. Thanks Dave.

[@jerometriche6733]

What a great presentation. May God have mercy on us all

[@lavonneyounan2660]

He was a great teacher ! RIP BROTHER !

[@bsusie1]

Really enjoyed this teaching. For years I followed many of the deceptive teachings from WOF. As I’ve grown in my walk, I’ve prayed to have only truth revealed. I’ve been amazed at how many wrong teachings have infiltrated the church. I’m seeing many going towards Calvinism, which is sad to see.

[@fredmiller6166]

Wonderful teacher and teaching

[@bellohond]

WOF? WILL OF FATHER? Praying for truth is good, but it is no guarantee. On opposite sides if the discussion people have prayed for truth to be revealed. It all starts with a good view on who and what God is and who and what we are.

[@bsusie1]

@@bellohond WOF= WORD OF FAITH. It’s a form of Charismatic teaching. Yes, I know that prayer is a part of everything else that goes along with knowing truth.

[@Steve20333]

I find myself wondering what is the Church? With so many Man made doctrines ,I ask which church if any is reaching a true Gospel. and what do they really believe? If RC Sproul wasn't sure if he wasn't saved based on his sins . and not on the finished work of the lord on the Cross , then what did he believe? Is it the gospel according to Calvin,do they believe Calvin before the LORD JESUS CHRIST . does that mean that Calvin knew best ! and then one has to ask what good is John 3/16 . I don't think I can belong to any denomination ,any club or even sect . What else can you call them . and it seems that many of the early CHURCH FARTHER'S were possibly the wolves that crept in . because they weren't sure about their savation either ! so who has true doctrine ?

[@WillMakeYouFree]

@@Steve20333 Do you hear yourself what you are saying? That the Apostolic Father's were the wolf's? Are u in LA LA land?

[@JudyAnnejesusislord]

Dave did a fantastic job of representing the God of the bible! He surely was and still is a blessing in my life...God has used him mightily...Dave was a very humble man of God..very teachable..and thats why the Holy Spirit worked through him as He did...He didnt get in God's way of teaching him...God bless the berean call ministry as well!

[@bethfurry7461]

If you limit atonement, you limit the great, complete, sacrificial work done by our Savior.

[@SundancerrMusic]

The thing is everyone limits the atonement, even arminians. Calvinists limits who Christ died for. While arminians limit how effective Christ's sacrifice was. It doesnt save all those it was meant for

[@GrahameChristianGould]

@@SundancerrMusic Yes, but "Limited Atonement" was specifically invented to argue against those Calvinists who taught the Atonement was unlimited, like Calvin, Luther and Augustine. Here's the thing. It was invented to teach that the Atonement itself is limited, whereas non-limitarians teach that the Atonement is limited in it's application. That is not a limitation on the Atonment itself but in how it is applied. And that is the teaching of scripture. The atonement is not limited in what it can accomplish and who it is offered to. There is no limit on the atonement. But the application of the Atonement is limited to those who receive HIM, to those who believe. And there are even Calvinists who are not limitarian, including Calvin himself! So the limitarians are actually not Calvinists. You are Bezanites. You keep moving further and further away from scripture and a humble understanding of scripture.

[@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE]

Thank GOD Dave wrote that book! I was just about to jump ship; thinking that God CHOSE *NOT* to save members of my family. My feeling became, *"If THAT'S the kind of HEARTLESS MONSTER YOU ARE, 'god', I want nothing to do with YOU!"* The RELIEF, at finding out about this book, AND that Calvinism was NOT as widely accepted as I thought, was enough to make me cry for joy! I ordered *"What LOVE is THIS?"* as soon as I could. Sad irony was, I ordered from The Berean Call the day I also learned Dr. Hunt died. I HOPE he got a *"WELL DONE, GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT!"* He deserved it. My book just about resembles a coloring book now, with all the highlighting. A BLESSED RESOURCE! The Calvinist view of *'Will'* almost takes humanity off the proverbial hook. I mean, Adam and Eve were told NOT to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and yet, they have no will to decide. If that's the case, God puppeteered A&E to the very tree He told them NOT to eat from. So what? GOD made Adam and Eve sin? How does *THAT* work? 🤷‍♀🤦 *T.U.L.I.P Lovely flower. Damnable Doctrine* .

[@ToOpen6seven]

Oh how I enjoyed your powerful testimony so very much!! The irony, yes -- knowing you ordered this powerful book (that the blessed staff at the Berean Call has downloaded in audio form as well), the day brother Hunt died. I cried and cried when I found out he died, tears of joy mostly knowing that great is his reward in heaven.

[@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE]

@@ToOpen6seven Downloaded an AUDIO version of *What Love is This?* WOW!!! I'm guessing it would be abridged. It's a pretty thick work. My copy is practically a coloring book, with all the highlighting in one color or another. Mainly orange and yellow. Definitely, Dave would get an abundant welcome. Looking forward to seeing him when I arrive.

[@bobvadney7240]

Hey nice job Johanna( not ) a Christie....nice job indeed....let's all continue to pound this filthy heresy back to where it comes fm ...HELL....VIA.....THE VATICAN...IN ROME...Gal 6:10

[@hisayumi]

A more gentle soul.. And yet you can already see how gentle he is..

[@meletx6533]

Dave Hunt was a great writer and speaker. He exposed a lot. For the life of me, I don't know why anyone WANTS to believe the heresy of Calvinism.

[@jiwbink]

THANK GOD FOR BROTHER DAVE'S OBEDIENCE TO OUR FATHER!! HE HAS GONE ON HOME,BUT HIS POWERFUL TEACHINGS LIVE ON! THANK YHWH,GOD FOR THAT TOO!

[@matthewthomas8432]

love your preaching Dave. Resting in His arms

[@Iain265]

Wonderful exposition! Thank you. You have made the position of the Calvinist in my eyes a lot clearer. Thank you.

[@garygiff2024]

He takes everyones soul away from conversion with all his speaking of another man,s name . On the day of rebirth in Christ one has no ( christian ) religious name. If one is attached to any religious name that one is freed from and no longer has attachment to any religion. On the day of penticost there was not one christian religious name on earth. The early Apostles warned of counterfeits creeping in. No one is saved joining a christian religious sect.

[@timcarlG]

@@garygiff2024 Now you are not only showing ignorance but stupidity. Go find a different drug.

[@AgnelloAffonso-xp5gm]

Dave hs an amazing knowledge

[@katiewhiteman5960]

Thank you so much for your hard work on this abhorrent theology, by the grace of God I was pulled away from Calvinist, their doctrine is very enticing having grown up Catholic.

[@ToOpen6seven]

What woke you up, sis?

[@katiewhiteman5960]

@@ToOpen6seven my pastor rightly dividing the Word of Truth.

[@Discerningthetruth]

I never heard that, but I sure do like it! :) I didn't even know of this doctrinal heresy until about a year ago....and when I found out what it was truly all about I was shocked! Dave does such a great job in this presentation.

[@whitedove7945]

Imagine my joy when Berean Call popped up on my KZbin feed on my teevee! Thanks from my heart. Miss Dave so much! God bless you all👑

[@susannahwhite7561]

Buy the truth and sell it not; and wisdom and instruction and understanding. Proverbs 23:23 Thankyou LORD for The Berean Call and Pastor Hunt.

[@raslove9221]

Great sermon!

[@raphaeldeleon5953]

Magnificent theology! Brilliant exposition! Calvinists misrepresentation of the Gospel has been exposed by Dave Hunt. May Christ's blessings on him extend to all his descendants.

[@farnorthweaver7793]

Yes, I agree, men have many differing opinions. lol I spent many years in Romans alone. Being the so called cornerstone of Christian Faith, I wanted to know all of it, written on my heart so I would not forget one bit of it. It IS Spendid!! Right now I'm taking my son through the whole Bible KJV. We're almost done with 2Samuel and he's really taking to it. I so love the Word of God! Anyways...nice to meet you brother!

[@druchampion-payne1489]

In the church that I *used* to attend the pastor would always say, "We ALL deserve hell so thank God that He chose to save a few" ...what a twisted view of God it's sick!

[@ahchangmabu9790]

I have listened a lot of his preachings and I love them . He is with Jesus.

[@JaelAnderson-x6b]

Thanks for posting❤

[@TheBereanCall]

Our pleasure!

[@raymatthews4319]

Why would anyone want to follow a doctrine whose supporters aren't sure of their own salvation?

[@keithwilson6060]

Some are confident in error. We are told to “fear him who can destroy both body and soul.”

[@HolyMolysDonutShop]

This sounds like Islam. Abu Bakr was a man next in line after Muhammad, said this. "I was afraid to step foot into heaven because Allah is so deceptive because if he wanted to throw me into hell he could". Islam holds to a deterministic viewpoint as well. I remember James White on Mormonism saying that Islam is closer to Christianity. I didn't understand then but now I know why.

[@Idontlikethisever]

The men was dead on it. Awesome to hear from a truth believer.

[@5p1tf1r31]

I’m glad you kept telling the biblical truth in spite of ignorant criticism!

[@AgnelloAffonso-xp5gm]

I learnt a lot frm Dave

[@Robandje1]

Brother Dave was a great Man used mightily of God. Im starting to rerun all his videos etc after about 8-10 years since last time around. He is one Saint among many i really hope to meet.....if just to shake his hand for how he dealt with Mr Arrogant himself...James White. The Woman truly is riding the beast now my Brother as Rome leads the World into ww111. Thank you for all you did in obedience to your saviour. ❤

[@RonJGRowe]

For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son,that whosoever believes in Him,should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 I'm so grateful to God for the word "whosoever"in John 3:16, God has given us all the free will to accept or reject the completed work of Jesus Christ.His death on the cross,His burial, and resurrection three days later.Reconciliation,redemption or rejection.God has made the way for us in Christ alone! I am the way,the Truth and the life...John14:6-

[@MOvegangal]

absolutely, we are told to test the spirits. There is a lot of junk out there and it is very very disappointing. Jesus is the Word and we can go to him for the truth. The teachings of Jesus will give us all we need to know and growing in closeness to him.

[@caroliner2029]

Thank you very much for sharing this message of Dave Hunt's with us. I've just discovered him, and wish that I'd heard his insights years ago. I have only a small understanding of Calvinism, and was unaware of the inquisition Calvin engaged in... utterly repulsive! Like iz-lam. "Believe or die horribly" My family was drawn to the Lord during the Reformation, and generations of Protestants married from that time to this, and I consider it such a blessing that they didn't fall into the bleakness of Calvinism or back into Catholicism. My brother and I follow Yeshua the Jewish Messiah, and are looking for His imminent appearing 🥰

[@TheBereanCall]

You're very welcome. Thank you for joining us! For more on Calvinism please see: www.thebereancall.org/topic/calvinism We offer our archives of newsletters, and radio programs going back decades, for free.

[@jasonf9916]

I find it interesting that calvinist have to clarify and ADD words to scripture to make it support their belief. No man should add or take away from the word of God!

[@LastDays7]

They are continually dishonest about scripture and God will hold their teachers accountable

[@1Daphdong]

Thank you. And May He hold You in the Palm of His Mighty Hand till we meet in His kingdom!

[@farnorthweaver7793]

Thank TheLordGodAlmighty for using Dave Hunt to share the Truth with all of us! I pray all will be enriched open to the Truth by the Word of God in the KJV.. Thank you LordJesus, my Lord and King.. for your Grace and Truth. I am humbled by your Love!

[@elizabethG633]

What really gets me is the way the put the cart before the horse. You cannot be regenerated before expressing faith in the Messiah and what HE did on the cross for the sins of the world. EVER. Yet they claim they are saved before they ever believe. How dumb is that? And then they have to insert the word "elect" wherever "whosoever" appears. How dare they add to God's Word!

[@TheElizabethashby]

I WHEN A NEW CHRISTIAN I STARTED WITH STEVEN ANDERSON BUT HE TOLD LIES ABOUT THE JEWS SO I LEFT DID TRY MCARTHUR UGH I FOUND DAVE HUNT ALONG WITH= THE HOLY SPIRIT ON HOW TO READ THE BIBLE I LOVE AND THANK DAVE HUNT ALONG WITH OUR REDEMER THE LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST AMEN

[@mrnoedahl]

Yes I am like you. Steven Anderson has some good sermons but he goes overboard and is unstable. John MacArthur is an excellent teacher also, yet he goes overboard on his Calvinism. So you take the good and throw out the bad. Thankfully we can and should read the Bible for ourselves.

[@RonJGRowe]

Great comment.I totally agree.No doubt by your Testimony...you have saving faith.God is GOOD! (All the time).People complicate what God made simple enough for anyone to understand,The Gospel of Jesus Christ.Apologetics is needful however.Look at some who call their Church Christian...Mormons,Jehovah Witnesses, etc..God bless you!

[@impala8614]

I was a Calvinist for 3 1/2 years and have fully rejected it. I honestly don’t think it was for nothing,because i built many beautiful friendships within the reformed camp,and they are still friends whom i love very much. I can have discussions with them now about why i don’t hold to their beliefs now with full confidence that im not misrepresenting their position. They get to see that there are better ways of viewing the scriptures than what they are being taught. And it’s coming from someone they know loves them

[@brendaann727]

That's great you can have discussions with them. When I left some Calvinists, I wrote a letter why I left, I was as gentle as I could be. They never wrote or spoke to me again. And we were good friends before they even became Calvinists & had so much in common. 😒😢

[@mcirishman57]

"For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." Mk 10:45 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." Jn 10:37

[@farnorthweaver7793]

AMEN!! Praise The Lord God in Jesus Christ! I am so happy for you!!

[@yours2injesus2]

Thank You Jesus

[@lifevacay]

I noticed a lot of religious people love calvinism

[@mikeconsiglio819]

I have read so many comments and I said it before what religion would Satan want to give the biggest black eye to? The true one of course! I am no theologian but I believe on both sides those who are true believers will hear well done good and faithful servant! Can't remember verbatim but I read that it was good that America had so many different denominations because it stopped us from having a national church which would have brought us right back to what we escaped from! Absolute power tends to corrupt in most things and Christianity is not immune! That is at least until Christ sets up his eternal kingdom where there will be no more sin!

[@bethelshiloh]

I see it this way too. Thank you for your teaching.

[@eddyecko94]

Love it Sir!!!

[@angeleyes9990]

Men like pastor hunt are MIA these days except for a very few who teach pur gospel. When we know these things we would have to be brain dead to not understand why the world is like it is. The condition apparently started with religion. Since there is one God one Bible on the word of God yet people want to make it say what they want. So many have gone through the wide gate because of crazy teachings.pastor hunt just teaches truth

[@gloriahful]

Thank you for sharing this.

[@happytosing1]

I chose to believe Jesus and then when I started reading Genesis before I finished the second chapter, I suddenly knew Who God is and what I am and was born again. Every thing changed. I didn't have to choose to believe. It was an act of my free will to do so.

[@brendaann727]

There's a verse somewhere that says our faith to believe is even from Jesus. So he truly does do it all.

[@Mcfirefly2]

Amen. Exactly; that is what the Bible does teach.

[@johnbisaac93]

Thank you!!!

[@justamannn8674]

Excellent!!!!

[@blessedjohn]

Gal. 5:1-9 1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

[@1Daphdong]

I am just a simple christian. I hate it when christian goes against christian. As for Calvinism...I had never heard of it before lol. Si all I can do is plead the blood of Jesus over my life and the life of those I love. I believe He is the Son of God that he lived and died on Calvary and rose from the dead on the third day. That He will return as Kiing of King and Lord of Lords. Before that there will be a gathering together in the 'snatching away' before/during? the tribulation.

[@RonJGRowe]

Moreover,brethren,I declare to you the Gospel which I preached to you,which also you received and in which you stand,By which you are also saved,if you hold fast that word that I preached to you-unless you believed in vain.For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received:that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,And that He was buried,and He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures !st Corinthians 15:1-4 No subtractions or additions..The Gospel !!!

[@goshenfilms]

It is very simple, the only way to salvation is to Christ, none other. It may sound like a God who is not that loving, but on the contrary, God has always extended His hand towards his creation since the beginning. We all have the option to seek this holy God or not. If we choose not to then we simply cant be with Him. God is love but he is also Holy,

[@abeltasman225]

I miss rip Dave

[@bellohond]

I have become a Calvinist because it gives most glory to God, most hope and glory for the believer, most just to scripture and no boasting for humans.

[@chicoutimi48]

Feel sorry that you have fallen into the cult of Calvinism.😢

[@bellohond]

@@chicoutimi48 This is no agapé. Arminians often mock or talk bad of calvinists and of God. This is proof that deeply, they simply do not want it to be true.

[@TheBereanCall]

And neither is the last response "Agape." It's instructive that a number of Calvinists have written on the problem of harsh talk when confronting someone. As another Calvinist wrote: "The stereotype of the mean Calvinist exists for a reason. There’s a reason, after all, that clichés become clichés. If you spend any time in evangelical social media or have a more traveled experience in evangelical churches, you’ve been on the receiving end of a mean Calvinist before. If you’re like me, you’ve wondered at some point, “Why do those who subscribe to the doctrines of grace frequently seem so graceless? Is there something in particular about Calvinism that makes people mean?” "To that latter question, many have said yes. They do believe the essential tenets of Reformed theology lend themselves to coldness and harshness. I don’t think that’s true. And of course you may say that’s because I’m a Calvinist! And I am, so you may be right."

[@bellohond]

@@TheBereanCall My experience is that Arminians are often very nice as long as you do not mention Gods predestination. If you do they become mad. Why do I get sucked in these discussions? Because I am certain of my eternal salvation and many arminians are not. Like muslims are not. I often do not even bring the subject on the table. I often point arminians at their Inconsistencies and build it up from there..

[@chicoutimi48]

@@bellohond Why do you attach the label Arminian to me? (By implication.) I know nothing about Arminianism. But I know that Calvinism is a dangerous deception. I was born again, saved in the most marvellous way, delivered from the shackles of a Sabbatarian cult. Then Calvinism came along and tried to get me into its clutches. It was only by the grace of God that I was saved from falling into its deadly depths. Once the Baptists resisted Calvinism, knowing how dangerous it was. But the Calvinists have infiltrated into Baptist circles and created a monstrosity called Reformed Baptist. Reformed theology is good for the stress it lays on Justification by Faith. But it is not the entire Gospel. It is also a dangerous cul-de-sac. We must learn to live by the Bible, living by every word and promise of God. The fruit of the Spirit is Christlikeness, and Christlikeness is seen in meekness and love. Calvinists tend to be intellectual, soulish and argumentative. They are not spiritual, they are certainly lacking in both humility and love. And they have no burden for perishing souls. I truly feel sorry for you, BH. Because you are brainwashed by Calvinism and your heart needs the enlargement of divine love. Do not worship Calvin or his mentor Augustine. Neither worship Luther (who had a mindless hatred towards the Anabaptists). God did use Luther, He used Wycliffe, He used Huss, He used the Baptists, He used the Brethren, He used many great missionaries. But I can tell you this one thing: I find no evidence that God used Calvin, the tyrannical dictator of Geneva. TULIP is an enticing Gnostic philosophy from the pit of hell.

[@grannygrunt1000]

Well said!

[@farnorthweaver7793]

Amen brother! Some just don't get it and demean the Lord in JesusChrist in their pride in refusing the truth. They are literally saying that the Grace of God is insufficient....errrr!

[@ChristiansofAsia]

God bless ..

[@Marilynschannel]

I saw this man in a dream I had on January 22nd. I have seen his teaching come up on my feed but never really listened to it . I woudnt have remember his name upon waking but I knew it was this man whom I saw in the dream I am listening now .

[@ismaeltorresjr.4945]

I personally know individuals who cannot read but are good listeners, Elohim makes it possible for all to come to him regardless of their disability including blind people who were born blind, Elohim makes it possible for all to be saved. Lets not get narrow minded in thinking. May wisdom be granted to them that ask.

[@reporter2078]

I never heard of Calvinism until we joined a Grace Baptist church in England . I just knew as an ex Catholic I loved Jesus and the Bible. Then one Sunday a man came to tell us about Tulip. Eh? What? Sounds like i would need to waste a lot of time trying to see if it was true, when I was so happy because I knew I had already found the truth. I loved that church so much and cried for days when we had to leave it over a stupid incident. That incident happened on a country walk in aid of the Bible Society. I went with our then 15 year old daughter, along with several other church members and people from other churches. We were enjoying the walk when a man joined and began walking with our daughter and a lady from church. They got into conversation about Catholicism and our daughter and the lady started pointing out some of the errors. The man got offended and complained about them to one of our elders, who went to our daughter and told her to just talk about the weather. I met her at the end of the walk and found her in tears. We were all handed a Bible Society booklet to remember the walk and on the cover was a picture of the Pope. We later learned that the offended man was a Catholic priest. He could not hold his own in a discussion with a 15 year old true believer. At home my husband was so angry he fired off a letter to our church . We went one last time at my insistence so I could say goodbye to a lady I had come to love. I never got the chance since the wife of the elder came up to us at the end of the service and said they all thought we were subversive! I was crying so much we just went home. We loved the pastor and he came to see us and tried to patch things up, but it was too late. Calvinism? You can keep it. I will not attach any name of any man to my glorious Lord Jesus. Later we learned that the church denied the 1000 year Millennium, so we would have had to leave 💔 anyway.

[@MOvegangal]

we are told to follow the doctrine of Jesus Christ, any other doctrine is a false doctrine.

[@jonchrysostom]

Both the Calvinists and the Arminians say that they have the CLEAR teaching of Scripture on their respective systems of theology. What is a person to do or believe and be sure that he/she is saved? The Cane Ridge Revival of 1801 sought to rid the Church of " theology " and the Christian Church began. They sought to take the Bible literally. It was not to be another denomination but became one. The early 19th Century preacher Lorenzo Dow started the saying " Damned if you do and damned if you don't." He was mocking the conflicting teachings of the Calvinists by saying: " You can and you can't, you shall and you shant, you will and you won't. You will be damned if you do and you will be damned if you don't."

[@abeltasman225]

A very rare n important info

[@blessedjohn]

John 15:1-17 1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. -2 Every branch "in me" that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every [branch] that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

[@Marra7777]

Anytime someone follows a person other than Christ, it is a worrying thing. Why would you label yourself after a person, be it Calvin or Joseph? I am a Christian.

[@brendaann727]

Doesn't Paul speak of something similiar? I'll have to go look it up!

[@Tigerex966]

if you believe you have eternal security, if you do not believe you do not. You can change that before or after salvation. God does not force you either way.

[@TheElizabethashby]

I WATCHED JOHN MCARTHUR WHEN I WAS A NEW CHRISTIAN BUT I DID LOOK UP THE TULIP I STOPPED WATCHING HIM QUICK

[@farnorthweaver7793]

However, the sheep of Israel have gone astray. If you have ever had a herd and known sheep, the do have a tendency to wander, doesn't mean they are lost. They're just out looking for different fodder, and some that will make their tummy's sick. But the Shepherd knows where they are, being the Good Shepherd and will bring them back in. ie to be graffed back into the tree. Just as the prodigal son, the father knew he would return after the lesson learned. We all have lessons to learn.

[@MishC619]

Calvinist are super aggressive. I’ve watched this message 4 times and here I am again going to share it with those who are caught in it’s misleading claims.

[@mikeconsiglio819]

On essentials we must have unity on non essentials liberty and in all things love. One big problem I have with the reformed Baptist church which I used to attend was how they spiritualize the Jews return to their homeland. We are supposed to test all things in light of scripture. I disagree with Dave on predestination because the dead man isn't drowning reaching for the life preserver but is at the bottom of the ocean stone cold dead and it take God the Holy Spirit to dive to the bottom of the ocean and breath new life spiritually speaking into that dead corpse! Most of the great preacher's would admit that no man had everything exactly right but when it comes to essentials we better!

[@ahhitskatie9094]

AMEN!!!

[@aishkar]

We all fall myriads of times. But the work of the Holy Spirit guides us back to Him. Peter denied Christ 3 times but God said to him,"...I have prayed for you that your faith may not fall". Luke 22:31. He didn't pray for Judas did He? He didn't pray because he wasn't one of the ELECT. God was, is and will always be sovereign. John 21:22. His Will. We are saved through faith and Faith which is a gift of God.

[@abeltasman225]

Zion assembly church of God cleveland TN, bishop wrote a good book called perlexing scriptures calvinism explained

[@brendaann727]

There is a verse that says Jesus was praying for all of us. And salvation is for "whosoever" not only certain ones. It is a gift for all. Whosoever recieves it. That's the key right there... And concerning Judas, it's not recorded that he didn't pray for him so we can probably assume he did as his will for all of us is to turn to him. I got that logic from Dave, who said that just because something isn't recorded, doesn't mean it wasn't done, but because it was something the Lord has said he would do other places, we can know it is still true because he said it.

[@aishkar]

@@brendaann727 exactly ‘whosoever’ is chosen by Him . John 15:16

[@brendaann727]

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[@droptozro]

If Judas was "lost," was he found--or was Jesus confused? Doesn't matter that Jesus KNEW who would betray Him. Don't forget the fact that one cannot betray someone they don't even know, or are friend's with... the very word "betrayal" undermines your claim. Friends betray friends, enemies don't betray enemies.

[@Rickyrollin]

"For God so loved the world" Not the world of the "Elect", but the entire world. The plan of salvation is "by Grace + Faith = salvation as in "By grace are ye saved thru faith not by works less any man boast". Faith by shear definition is a volitional verb and all you Calvinist and your spiritual elitist AKA "The Elect" need to stop the nonsensical talking points like God raising certain evil people in the Bible to be damned with no hope of Salvation. To that I say, read the accounts of Nebuchadnezzar in the last day of his life as in the book of Daniel. A misconstruction of doctrine out of mans finite ignorance that could not start to understand Gods infinite knowledge. Totally Omnipotent. Our little brains will never grasp that. so we make our little Calvinist (false) doctrine that fits in to our comfort zone even at the expense of promoting "spiritual elitism".

[@dannylovesya2052]

Ricky rollin well said

[@raymatthews4319]

@Goodtree How do you know if you were drawn?

[@djohnson3093]

@@raymatthews4319 John 12:32 tells us that Jesus will draw all men unto Himself. Some will ignore it and some will pursue. All being drawn does not imply that all will accept the gift of grace and accept Christ as Savior. Unfortunately, many will refuse.

[@lollipop7458]

“For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son that WHOSOEVER...” This guy is really, really trying to paint a pic of an apple while using a banana as his model. This is a man of God? He’s flat out lying about most of his rhetoric & is plainly & completely ignorant to the rest. He’s terrified someone w/ sense will become enlightened & run as fast as they can. He immediately contradicts himself & then lies, His rhetoric is so deceitful. The “reformation” was hijacked by Calvinists? That’s the goofiest, most adolescent claim ever. It’s not SELF EXPLANATORY? That’s what & how the “reformation” happened! Reformed theology🙄. It’s common knowledge Luther looked up to Augustine , he was Catholic....shocking! Go read his biography. This man is egregiously LYING & misleading.

[@lollipop7458]

@@djohnson3093 U ppl are so silly. U can’t even see you’re proving Calvinists are correct w/ each comment & biblical reference.

[@TheBereanCall]

For much more information (newsletters, radio programs, Q and A's) see our website: www.thebereancall.org/topic/calvinism

[@droptozro]

Learn the OT and you won't have any issues with understanding Romans 9. Look up every OT quote and learn the book of Galatians well(and it's OT quotes).

[@southftballfan0009]

Calvin taught God fates some to sin... because He doesn't like them.. essentially a spiritual 'might makes right.' But Scripture depicts our Savior as Using sin, as in Romans 8:28, for His glory but not Causing it. He tells us to come and reason with Him... to even pluck or chop... to avoid it. He orders us to 'compel' the lost to come into the Kingdom... because He loves them! It is we and the god in this world (our first father) that causes our pride and lust.

[@cynthiahunter2570]

Jesus said in John 6:44 NO one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and in 6:65… “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

[@brendaann727]

And he calls all.... It is up to them to accept.

[@goshenfilms]

If anyone who truly read and study scripture, one has to only read the book of Jeremiah among many others, just ready the first 13 chapters. It destroys ever so swiftly the calvinistic point of view. Either God is a lunatic or we have the option and will to choose. In the book of Timothy chapter 2 it says that God desires FOR ALL TO BE SAVED. The invitation is for every breathing, living human being. P E R I O D

[@brendaann727]

Thanking God that he is definitely NOt a lunatic! What he says is true and we can trust him because of the many proofs that he is who he says he is!!

[@Tigerex966]

The devil loves to reverse God's order, and mix in a little truth. To hide a lot of lies or a big lie. He plays in man's self perceived intellect and pride, and willingness to say I am or have something's others don't or can't have, I am respected of God and you are not. He chose my salvation before he created anything, making God a respecter or mankind. He did not shed his son's blood for everyone most are predestined for hell and CANNOT accept Jesus no matter what. And then one lie beats another and another and you have Calvinism and man's total inability to believe in Jesus Christ, unless God forces you too against your will. Beware of TULIP and Calvinism. It is the opposite of the gospel of the Bible.

[@ToOpen6seven]

You are absolutely correct!!

[@droptozro]

"We are all lost, until we are saved, by virtue of the fall of man"---no, by our own sin. Adam didn't make us lost. Try reading the parable of the prodigal child---who was lost, and then found AGAIN.--Jesus' words. It means the prodigal child was saved, died in sin, and came back to life AGAIN. Again refutes you. The order is not wrong, we become lost when we sin. We all like sheep -have gone- astray. Try reading Ezekiel 18 also, all of it. Thanks for the calm discussion... I appreciate it

[@aservant2287]

One question I always ask a Calvinist. " If God chooses some people for Hell and some for Heaven then isn't it possible for you to be actually called to burn and not go to Heaven?" We do good works because we are saved not to get saved. Calvinist have a mind set of never knowing for sure that they're saved so they have to say, " look at my good works I must be saved " mentality. Trying to out way the bad with the good. Ask this question for yourself and then you'll see that you have a choice to serve or not everyday. Be blessed

[@droptozro]

I don't need a popular teacher to understand the Scripture---I look at it, and simple logic declares this. Tell me friend, if you have a gold coin, and you lose it---was it once yours? If you're on the back of a truck, and you fall away from the truck--it logically implies you MUST be on the truck. Judas "FELL"--logic follows he at one point STOOD. Jesus called Judas a "friend." and Jesus does not lie. Calvin was an unrepentant murderer at heart, I hope you don't think like him.

[@droptozro]

That's not usually my experience.... besides the fact that it's not a strong argument, I find it's pretty even both ways for the most part. Most Calvinists I run into are not humble, but bent on twisting Scriptures to out of context to support their positions, there are many who are proud... then there are the few who humbly disagree or at least reason it out. study the ante-Nicene church, Calvinism got its roots from gnosticism, it's blatantly clear from the earliest church writings.

[@waow8222]

God knows i will see my wife this sunday but he also knows that i might not see her.

[@dannylovesya2052]

Great truth Mr hunt. Calvinists are not saved . They have a false gospel

[@rainbomikie]

Like I said I'm so tired of this. I once believed as you do. I will forever thank our God for revealing His truth to me. Romans 3:11-12 states, "There is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that does good, no, not one." If you or anyone else has ever sought after God and chosen God yourself then God's word is in error! IT IS NOT! Forget the straw! Pride is still the issue here.

[@dianewilliams7888]

Personally, I think Calvinism and Armenianism has it's pitfalls. but the times both doctrines were developed at a time when scriptural understanding was limited due to lack of access to the scriptures.

[@TheBereanCall]

Actually, following Gutenberg's development of movable type, the way was opened for Bibles being more readily available in the 1500s during the Reformation. The first full German Bible was the Biblia Germanica, printed at Strasbourg in 1466. And, the publication of Luther’s September Testament came in1522 along with seventeen other German Bibles produced. The Erasmus Bible came one year before the beginning of the Reformation. In fact, the Reformation in Europe notably led to translations of the Bible into the people’s common languages so that ordinary people, not just clergymen, could read and understand it. Further, with the invention of the printing press by Johannes Gutenberg in Germany around 1440 just prior to the Reformation, Bibles could be affordably mass printed. It has been pointed out that "John Wycliffe, known as the “morning star of the Reformation,” wrote the first English translation of the Bible in 1384. Following Wycliffe and influenced by reformer Martin Luther who translated the Bible into German, William Tyndale wrote the first modern English translation of the New Testament in 1526. Tyndale was executed for doing so, but his work remained. Drawing from the work of Tyndale and Luther, Miles Coverdale produced the first modern English version of the full Bible in 1539, called the Great Bible, authorized by Henry VIII of England." Consequently the Arminians and Calvinists both based their positions on the Scriptures, although individuals such as Luther or Calvin brought some "traditions" from their time in Catholicism that influenced their conclusions. It was certainly a process.

[@dianewilliams7888]

@@TheBereanCall more available does not necessarily mean equal access and wide distribution. Bibles for the average Christian were hard to get up until the 1800's.

[@CumbriaPreaching]

Charles Haddon Spurgeon the prince of preachers said ....."Calvinism is the Gospel"

[@jasontodd8959]

and that is when I learned that Spurgeon was genuinely confused

[@RossIsFine]

Just like the Hebrew roots cult, calvinists also hate Paul.

[@ravdavidstudio]

13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men [and] brethren, hearken unto me: 14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them "a people" for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this "I (GOD)" will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and "I(GOD)" will build again the ruins thereof, and "I (GOD)" will set it up: 17 That the "residue of men" might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, "upon whom my name is called", "saith the Lord", *who doeth all these things*. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. (Acts 15:13-18, KJV)