Double the Horsepower 1st Gen Cummins

Follow along as we double the horsepower of Westen Champlin's 1st Gen Cummins pickup. Can we coax more power out of the factory VE pump or will we have to do a p-pump swap?
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[@MullnerFab]

I’m here because of mike Finnegan. Let’s see that 500k subs.

[@robm.4512]

You and me both bud, 500k incoming! 😎👍🍻

[@darthtator3549]

Westen champlin is a nice character to have no matter

[@tyrelgranger8105]

Nice to have you

[@theglitch99]

Yup!!!!!

[@TokyoCraftsman]

Ditto here for FSM Cheers from Tokyo

[@bigskycrane6950]

If anyone deserves recognition for their hard work its Todd, Will & the rest of the guys over at PDD! A few months back I had a some questions regarding my late model Dodge transmission so I called the shop not expecting that Will would be on the other line sharing his knowledge with me. Now that may be a Utah good ol’ boy thing but I was impressed and have been a fan ever since!

[@pddofficial]

Thank you we appreciate your support and are happy to help!

[@picklefart]

You can't beat support like that. I absolutely love companies like that.

[@Ja3cques]

LFG. Been missing PDD's content, now 2 bangers in 2 days!

[@Turbo_Q]

Another sub for finnegan. Love seeing how these cummins 30 years later still take upgrades like a champ

[@dbfabworks5320]

Love the "Double the Horsepower" videos!!!! Keep it up!!

[@serg2057]

I have the same setup on my 89 except I have a 5 speed manual. Very fun to drive.

[@4xAbuse]

What kind of mileage are you getting? Considering a '91 D250 as a cheap / reliable, low tech tow rig.

[@serg2057]

@@4xAbuse I roughly get a bit over 20mpg unloaded. I drive like a grandma though.

[@koskey06]

Been my dream truck since i was like 12 and im 35 now.... My summer job at the campground we stayed at all summer had one and they let me drive it at age 15 doing clean up, etc. Fell in love even more. I just always been a sucker for boxy style vehicles and growing up in a dodge family it just makes sense. I just wish i would have got one back when they was going for $5000 for a decent one....

[@dylanmacleod6589]

I got my rust free 107k mile D250 cummins for $2500. Cheap ones are still out there

[@bert5003]

Theres something about the westin/will combo that we need more of

[@hbetz5300]

The spark plugs were most definitely to ignite exhaust to make flames 😂

[@descargaelbano]

I love these videos showing the increases in the horsepower. On my 93 non intercooled engine it originally made 16 lb of boost. I added a fuel pin, ground the inside of the cover and adjusted the spring. I also turned up the fuel screw and added 7 x 11 injectors and the Boost went up to 40 PSI with a huge Improvement in performance. Then I added the timing spacer kit and added the 3200 spring, and the Boost dropped down to about 32 or 33 but still runs great. I have a straight 4 inch exhaust. Kind of wondering what kind of horsepower my engine might be making compared to stock.

[@Scott9181970]

Considering the factory rating was 160 to the crank, that first dyno run wasn't bad. I still need to put the injector nozzles I bought from you guys on the spare set of injectors I have for my 1st gen 😅 Fuel pin and screw was enough to make my trans start slipping like mad, that lack of locking torque converter is just... stupid.

[@pddofficial]

The trans in these trucks are tragic!

[@rocklanddale8646]

I DID MINE BACK WARDS I INSTALLED AN ALLISON 1000 6 SPEED W/ TRIPPPLE CLUTCH CONVERTER CUMMINS CONVERSION FROM CAC FLORIDA! NOW I HAVE A COFFEE CUP GLUED TO THE DASH TO PUT YOUR DENTURES IN, WELL IF U WANNA KEEP'EM! 6TH OR 2ND OVER COMES IN AT 60MPH

[@johnbunger1906]

​@Power Driven Diesel are there reliable upgrades for the A518 transmission ?

[@wyo_garage20]

@@johnbunger1906 Of course there are.

[@burtonbird5518]

Trippel turbo build for Finnigans. Heck ya. Start building it.

[@pddofficial]

Let's do it!

[@JimmyCasket02]

*triple

[@thelawntractornut5448]

I've always been taught to turn the field screw up while the engines running to avoid a runaway

[@1276Tim]

Awesome content again with you two guys 👌

[@bobkin611]

I can't believe I ran across your channel randomly while looking at Diesel trucks. I just watched the Project Farms video lol

[@jimb7922]

The video I've been waiting for ! Thanks Guys !

[@DG-wj6ks]

This is inspiring, I haven’t turned up fuel yet but have a 47rh and a hx35 and still hit 100mph. This is going to be fun

[@ianmattox4830]

You're killing me! I'm so curious what it would have done with a new turbo. I had a '90 I named Frankensmurf. It started out pretty rough too, but after what you did (Except I put DDP 100hp injectors, so I'm not sure how that compares to the 5x14), plus an HX-35 with the wastegate wired shut, I could hit 50+ PSI boost, and I'm pretty sure topped 400Hp. (It did have bigger exhaust, no new pump, and was a Getrag manual transmission). I sold it and warned the guy he needed a wastegate before he blew a head gasket or worse. Unfortunately he didn't listen and 'popped' something two weeks after he bought it. Boy that was a fun truck! If it wasn't for 4 doors and creature comforts, I'd prefer it over my '04.5

[@titanfab3816]

I’m glad they are back

[@Zed-uh8js]

Video was extremely enjoyable gotta make more

[@gundorethemighty]

1st gen dodge's has been my fav truck for ever . never owned a Cummins maybe one day i will . atm i have a 1993 d250 with a 360 in it good truck very strong . wish it was a W250 dually an a Cummins , btw before people ask d250 mean 2wd W250 mean FWD . it hard to find a donnor truck for parts

[@alanbittle812]

Here for the 450K. I want to see the stroker built and see you all grow. Murica!

[@pddofficial]

Thank you!!

[@maddmaxx6730]

Subscribed from FSM, the Ramp Truck is running great.

[@markrich3271]

I still have an old first gen . I never use it . Starts right up . Great truck.

[@colenelson2489]

Pro tip, turn the fuel screw up till the manual shut off doesn't work then back it off till it does.

[@mikestrucks]

Just another cool video guys 😬🙌🏻

[@pddofficial]

Appreciate it!

[@Ray_wasteland]

Why do I feel like weston should work for them honestly✋️🤔💯

[@travisedwards732]

Hell yeah!!!!!!! Been waiting for this

[@michealbeethoven3868]

Just subscribed. Finnegan's mod was something else. Can't wait for the 3 turbo swap! That's a whole 'nother world.

[@pddofficial]

It would be so much fun! Make for a crazy video!

[@Really-AintBuyn-nit]

So I have a 250-260cc THD injector pump 3200 spring, Stage 3 DDP nozzles, Stage 1 DAP 62/64 HX35, Decent Garage copied BHAF, 18psi fuel pressure, and a 4" exhaust system. I should be 400-450hp (stock automatic '93) I bet if you would have adjusted the valves you might have picked up a few ponies. This video is inspiring!

[@1958johndeere620]

I got to 300 on my 89 with the 727 auto with only fuel screw, powerstroke intercooler and a 57mm stock 300G turbo. The stock non intercooled 4X12's will move some fuel.

[@pddofficial]

Yes they do!

[@1958johndeere620]

@@pddofficial Nothing super fast, 9.35 in the 1/8th at 72 ish mph.

[@vladbelonozhko339]

That’s awesome.. love the first gens

[@johnnorthington3224]

Finnigan told me to drop in and support you guys

[@davestewart1656]

Literally the perfect truck.

[@andreyzagoruyko5390]

People always throw more fuel at these but what you really need is more air/better turbo and play with timing. Sooooooooooooooooo many more mods you can do to bring it to 600hp.

[@ronskancke1489]

Meanwhile u joints are breaking like fine China and transmissions are smoking.

[@peterschmidt2849]

Little timing ,Turbo,valve springs and 350-380 is very doable.

[@TADman4003]

Fabulous content amigos!

[@pddofficial]

Gracias

[@MarkShinnick]

Nice job; very practical for most to accomplish, thanks.

[@pddofficial]

Glad it was helpful!

[@wrench_man08]

I have a SRW 91 dodge w350, bed off doing a bed line on the frame, I will end up probably welding a flat bed up for it in my free time. It will end up getting all new paint job, interior work, and a bunch of front end steering component. 1st gen’s are awesome

[@wrench_man08]

SRW means single rear wheel for those who don’t know

[@pddofficial]

Nice!😎

[@wrench_man08]

@@pddofficialsuch low horsepower engines but a hell of a lot of torque, for me upgraded it isn’t really necessary. More horsepower equal more room for mechanical malfunctions

[@NXT_LVL]

Parents had the same truck but a 92, with the 5 spd Getrag manual. This one might be slower than watching paint dry on a humid day, but there's could chirp the tires on the 2-3 shift.

[@nmdiesel]

Love the first gen stuff!!!

[@micahbuchheit1283]

I heard your name 3 times in two days so I'm here and yes I subscribed.

[@pddofficial]

Thanks for the support!

[@andrewmcpheron675]

Need to lower the star wheel in that stock ve too!

[@anthonyvirgadamo898]

Great video with finnegan

[@wbwilliam4034]

Oh I changed to a 97 p pump motor too. Almost all stock just minor tuning. Took my wife on a first date to a dyno meet in 2000 I hit the highest tk at the meet in Sacramento

[@bernhard8540]

I want to find a 1st gen that is that clean, oh man such a beautiful clean truck❤❤❤❤

[@aaronkelley8909]

Such a good time!!!

[@justanothercanuckian]

FSM crew reporting in!

[@ToddBigelow-zg6vs]

Meeee too!

[@justanothercanuckian]

@@ToddBigelow-zg6vs greetings brother!

[@larrybreuer4495]

I thought I would jump in on your latest video, to let you know…MIKE sent me! Subscribed! 👍👍❤️

[@pddofficial]

Thank you sir!

[@joepatenaude3957]

Let's see a turbo upgrade and what just the turbo picks up

[@pddofficial]

Truck left before we were able to do that. I am also curious what it would do.

[@joepatenaude3957]

@@pddofficial if you get your hands on it again I would love to see what a turbo upgrade would do with the fuel mods you probably could sell a starter kit with the fuel mods and have the option for a turbo for a wake up kit for gramps Ole 5.9

[@paulbarnett5856]

I'm here for the Triples for Mike

[@dang5553]

Epic burn out

[@coleodine6100]

I'm here because Westen said give you a follow 😅 good video 👍

[@pddofficial]

Welcome!

[@cherokeelittle4582]

It's funny how a 160hp 400 torque ve motor seemed like a lot compared to the 6.5 chevy and 7.3 idi

[@pddofficial]

It was the beast back in the day!

[@1320fastback]

It was a game changer when it came out.

[@maddlabgarage]

Here because Mike Finnagan said so!!!!

[@mikejensen-fogt4662]

id love to see what a VE pump is capable of 😍👍 i know they are not as powerful as the P-pump but there is a lot of people still rocking the VE pump and knowing some secrets to make some good gains would be awesome knowledge to have 😁 Im building a fummins with a VE pump and im looking to make about 300 HP so this video was very fun for me to watch 😅

[@pddofficial]

There are a lot of fummins with VE pumps. I think we may need to do some more testing with these!

[@austinmaxi]

Hey it's even educational for people who don't have a Cummins, but do have a VE on there 4 banger diesels! I'm sure there's a fair bit of cross over. I for one would deffinatley want to know how to figure out what pump timing an engine is running that has a VE. I only know how much plunger lift to dial in at TDC but no idea how that translates to degrees of timing.

[@mikejensen-fogt4662]

@Power Driven Diesel Definitely! Id love to see the guys nerd out on all the tuning of the pump! How to adjust base and dynamic timing advance, different boost pin curves and spring adjustments. So many cool things about the VE pump that people overlook because they cant make as much power as the P-pump... Can i set a challenge for you guys to break the VE pump HP record? Lol...

[@DakotaB90]

Hey man look at firepunk diesel. This August I believe it the battle of the ve. Tons of big players in the ve fuel only will be trying to shoot for new hp record.

[@mikejensen-fogt4662]

@Dakota b i managed to find firepunk diesel but nothing about a VE pump challenge or anything... what have they called it?

[@caseyssweetrides3929]

I've been pondering what a good recipe for roughly 300hp might be. I have a 1991 VE pumped Cummins in my 1978 Ford Bronco with a ZF5 manual transmission. It has stock injectors but the pump is maxed out (fuel screw buried, THD fuel pin, 3200 RPM spring) and I have an HX35W turbo with the 12cm exhaust housing. I'd like to dyno it sometime to see where it's really at. I'd guess between 250-300hp. It moves the bronco pretty good as is :)

[@Codizz88]

Get some cheapo marine injectors or something and you'll be right there.

[@WolfPackRacing315]

Wanna see the triple turbo on the roadkill ramp truck ..haha great episode

[@pddofficial]

Me too!

[@tonybrinson564]

Damn , would love to find a truck just like that to pull our rv , 12 valve , auto and extended cab .

[@vaughnmccallum1191]

Fsm brings me here gotta see that swap

[@chuckpuglia982]

Finnegan sent me . Nice work!

[@pddofficial]

Thanks for coming

[@RICHYSUNCLE]

13:55 that was actually a good skid

[@thisoldsaw5438]

Brilliant!!!

[@1320fastback]

I daily drive a 1992 D250 VE pumped 12 valve. She's got a HE351CW, HVLP fuel pump, 4" diamond eye exhaust, 5x.12 injectors, BD pin, 366 spring, BHAF. Pump is turned up. Just rebuilt the Getrag and Dana70 which has 3:54 gears.

[@pddofficial]

Sounds great!

[@1320fastback]

@@pddofficial Most reliable vehicle I have ever owned in my 45 years.

[@jagg5474]

Most people will put a better turbo on before a new pump and transmission

[@Channel-qq8ef]

Subbed to see the Finnegan build

[@pddofficial]

I go hope it happens! We've got some big plans for that truck

[@CaptainNero]

Let's goooo ! 500k subscriptions

[@pddofficial]

Thank you!

[@peterobinson91]

I’m more of a ft-lbs kind of guy.

[@goingoffgridfromscratch]

I would start with porting and polishing the exhaust manifolds

[@eddiegoodwin6611]

500k here we come

[@pddofficial]

Thanks

[@westpearson6759]

But, you gotta’ take it back to the track!🤣

[@billramsey7455]

This is so good 👍 😁😁😁😁

[@timwienand7637]

Im just here to see trip-terb-skis on the Ramp Truck.

[@PeterHatch-mx7zc]

Good job on Help Finnegan's? Garage. Ramp truck?

[@kennethporst4359]

Idk how diesel works but I'm learning

[@jont8707]

I here to sub for Finn's stroker motor lol hope y'all get there 👍

[@pddofficial]

800hp towpig ftw!

[@rolliebrewer530]

Curious what the fuel economy was before and after

[@user-neo71665]

Here from Finn's channel, lets get that triple under his square body

[@pddofficial]

It would be so cool!

[@justinmckey4320]

There’s no way you were pedal to the floor. On that little “before” video in the beginning 🤣🤣

[@pddofficial]

Honestly, that was pedal to the metal. Keep in mind we're at high altitude so it takes much longer for the truck to build boost and advance the AFC to unlock the full 140 HP. With a boosted launch it would have come off the line faster, but the brakes were too worn out to do much of a boosted launch so that run started from an idle. Also keep in mind 95% of the "stock" 1st gens out there have been monkeyed with so your experiences from a "stock" Cummins might not be "stock" as this same truck.

[@michaelwynne4346]

Finnegan sent me, good luck.

[@ratracewelding6935]

You need a manual on that old girl. We did multiple pulls with my 92 cummins at 301 hp and 698 lb ft. Fuel screw buried. 90 over POD injectors. Custom stage2 AFE intake. 3" hood stack. And 5 speed getrag. On 37x13.5x18s.

[@4xAbuse]

Curious what kind of mileage that combo gets? Looking at something similar for a toy hauler / sxs bed rack tow rig.

[@user-ys2ko3eh5h]

Should do a video on a 6.5 Detroit!

[@jbmorris2893]

5:23 Curious to see the full video (if there is one) and more details on what happened there.

[@zachhouston6184]

I’m here from finnegans pg to get you to 501k subs.

[@pddofficial]

Appreciate the support!!

[@reallyaintbuynit2018]

Turn the fuel up on that pump, 4" exhaust and a HX35. Wish you would have done a pull before the transmission swap. I want to stay with my factory transmission for now.

[@ArmyMan099]

And its a 91. Omg thats my dream truck. I can drive it for you. You know so the batteries don't die.😅

[@jagg5474]

I wanted to see what it would’ve made with a good turbo on the stock trans

[@stevenbean9706]

should have put a universal k&n air filter on then did a 1/8 inch timing bump after turning the fuel up i have a stock 1st gen and couldnt believe how responsive it got just with a k&n it got super snappy

[@mr.salammander139]

Hey, do you know who makes that grille guard? I have the same one but mine is damaged from a recent wreck

[@johnfj80]

Great stuff Guys, does it black smoke, OR just a little puff on flooring it??, I know the old saying, "no smoke no POKE" , just asking, Im running a "tweeked" Toyota lump, & been thinking 6BT for a while

[@pddofficial]

It does a small buff

[@TheProchargedmopar]

👍💪 Big Fun!!!

[@modocroughstock5700]

I'd come in with my 08 but scared of the cost..

[@bcbloc02]

I wish y’all sold the power jet nozzles separate. I would like to test a set against your 7x.011 I have in my first gen to see if they run cleaner but make about the same or more power.

[@pddofficial]

Give our sales team a call they can help you out.

[@theglitch99]

Just got an 04 ram 2500 4x4 w/a 24 valve. Would love to let you guys play w/it,, $$$😊

[@jmoore8138]

Here to see the triple turbo with Mike Finnegan! Make it happen fam!!!

[@pddofficial]

We are hoping so as well!

[@caleb22lr]

boom! 150hp

[@steverempel2728]

You never tried adjusting throttle linkage to inner hole for more throttle travel. Doesn't hurt to drill the banjo bolts on the fuel filter lines as well. I had 5x18's and 3200 spring with 354 gears and 5 speed, and it would easily hit 3600 rpm, 125-130ish mph.

[@salstonightsbiggestloser]

Nice vid, but why no HX35?

[@idahopotato5837]

What does this do to the MPG? If you drive it easy would it be about the same? Can't you put a solenoid before the pump to be able to turn the fuel off in an instant. Then it would bleed down and stop a runaway relatively quick. I thought that's how the key worked anyways.

[@hambuga69]

Where’s the dragy run after the upgrade?