A Brief Retrospective | Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (Part 3)

Having recaptured the Queen's starship, our heroes escape the royal hangar. Their plan is to leave the planet and find help elsewhere in the galaxy. They will make no progress toward this goal whatsoever. Today is about all the obstacles along the way. Part 3 of our Star Wars - Episode 1: The Phantom Menace retrospective.
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#00:00 INTRO
#01:15 Federation Firepower
#06:23 Hyperdrive Is Leaking
#13:01 Ship Parts and Repair
#24:46 Little Ani
#42:26 OUTRO

[@pubcle]

There is an electronics term for leakage, it's when energy is transferring across what would normally be insulated, thus power is "leaking" out of the original intended cords and paths.

[@Captain-Cardboard]

_"I heard Master Yoda talking about midi-chlorians. I've been wondering: what are midi-chlorians?"_ _"It's heroin"_

[@newsbender]

"Give us a gram then"

[@shrapnelbmg6267]

"would you like to buy some drugs, Larry" "That's...uh why I'm here"

[@HerrscherPuppet]

I’ve heard legends of a taco, made entirely out of dorito.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Wait until you see the dance-off. Because Maul will show them who is truly the lord of the dance! Lucky the droid not only repaired the hyperdrive, but also upgraded the sound system.

[@PaxJurassicus]

11:47 why do hutts make up 50% of the gangsters while only being 13% of the galactic population?

[@thebreadcircus]

I've got 10,000 pages of FBI crime statistics floating around my mind, too. -ED-1TA

[@fiddlesticks7245]

"The hutts are k****!"

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

There might be some anti-Hutt discrimination, or there might be some organized group of Hutt criminals that is not representative of the general population, but negatively impacts their view in the population.

[@benlewis4241]

I imagine that that Watto's plan was to sell off a old starship to Qi-Gon in exchange for Watto being able to salvage his previous ship. This is one of the reasons why he makes the exchange so awkward.

[@thebreadcircus]

I think you're right, it's the only way their character motivations make sense. Watto wants to extract money from the situation, so his best case scenario is getting that ship and installing his spare T-14. Result, one Nubian 327 in like-new condition. He knows Qui-Gon won't just accept being stranded, and even if he did, that wouldn't be a profitable outcome. The only outcome that makes sense is for Watto to offer a junky ship in trade. Qui-Gon thought he could use the ship as an entry fee for the podrace, so presumably that means it has a lot of value. That may have been to imply "Watto pays the entry fee out of his own pocket, and gets a ship to sell later". Or perhaps the race officials accept barter, hard to say. -DZ

[@benlewis4241]

@@thebreadcircus The image that in some Star Wars possibility that Qui-Gon and the entire rest of the crew had to cram into a tiny shuttle while Watto goes joy riding in a Nubian 327 is too funny.

[@antonisauren8998]

Good thing that New Republic invested into public transport. By time of Mando they could just get on bus with some Pykes. :P

[@ryl0_or934]

41:59 So one could say that the Midichlorian is the powerhouse of the Jedi?

[@thebreadcircus]

Damn it, you just reminded me I was meant to splice Parasite Eve nonsense all through this episode and I totally forgot about it. -ED-1TA

[@ericvulgate]

It's like saying 'i'll pray for you. I have a level 9 prayer level.'

[@thebreadcircus]

Let me tell you, it wasn't easy grinding that level. You've got to bury a lot of bones and sanctify a lot of holy water to get there. -DZ

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Isn't scientology work like this?

[@DrDoompenguin]

Something I would like to point out is that Midichlorians do not generate the force. They merely act as a way for creatures to interact with it. We know this from the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise in Revenge of the Sith. "He was a dark lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise that he could use the midichlorians to influence the force to create life." Anakin does not call this out as inaccurate so presumably, this is either how it works or how the Jedi believe it to work. Kyber crystals are said to be somewhat sentient and are in some way influenced by the force. As far as I am aware, kyber crystals are not biotic. This would imply that midichlorians are only one form of interacting with the force. This could say something about the way organic life in the Star Wars universe evolved. Perhaps there are similar compounds present in midichlorians as those that compose kyber crystals.

[@jmurray1110]

It’s possible midichlorians evolved in the extremely early days of most planets life and were extremely useful when tiger microorganisms absorbed them Though the weird thing is how they appeared on so many planets But that’s just an issue with most sci-fi Like did you know summering symmetrical isn’t a guaranteed trait for life so it’s really unlikely that any alien species has it

[@spider-ball]

36:30 "Obi-Wan never told you your Force Potential" "He told me enough! He told me it's all around us!" "No, I used a Scouter to measure it. It's over 8000" "No, that's not true, that's impossible!" "Search the records! You know midi-chlorians are real!" "NOOOOOO! NOOOOOOO!" Moral of the story: the venn diagram between people who hate midi-chlorians and people who obsess over DBZ Battle Strength is a perfect circle.

[@tofubutcher7456]

The Hyperdrive was leaking midichlorians

[@felixmakesart]

When you said “they even use the same lightsaber” you then provided images of two different lightsabers. Anakin’s first lightsaber is not the same one he uses in episode III that gets passed on to Luke. Anakin’s first lightsaber was destroyed in the droid factory on geonosis. It was based on the shape of Darth Vader’s, which used a Heiland flash handle. Anakin’s second lightsaber (the one that Luke later uses) uses a Graflex flash handle.

[@DIEGhostfish]

17:55 Nubia was established to have been an old Corellian colony in the WotC SWd6 sourcebook Coruscant and the Core Worlds. It's presumably where the more high performance low customization types went.

[@owenosborne8543]

I don’t understand how these get so low views, they’re genuinely good

[@LegoSamler]

I didn’t even notice!!! Thought they would be in the low millions at least!!! Maybe the truth hurts some of our fellow fans

[@RCsev070]

All praise the algorithm

[@anordinarytidepodconsumer4683]

Well luckily the full compilation vid got over a million views

[@koobmoon]

Thank so much for this detailed series. It has added so much enjoyment to a movie i already love.

[@MiguelGarcia-zx1qj]

Thank you for making the connection between midichlorians and mitochondria. Knowing how little subtlety exhibits Lucas choosing names, it was obvious to me from the first mention in the saga.

[@0Defensor0]

Tatooine is my main problem with this movie. Just all of it! They stuck on the planet without proper money, and they don't have enough stuff on the ship to sell, to make money... Qui-Gon! Sell the ship! You don't need that specific ship to get to Coruscant! Hell, don't even sell it, just trade it one for one and get some freighter with a working hyperdrive and enough room for the dozen or so people you have. Not to mention that it's a unique luxurious cruiser, so if anyone would try to find it, you would be much better with a more common vessel to run away (you know, the basic vehicle switch tactic). Not to mention that you may even get to the senate before Maul even lands on Tattooine. And then he will find an abandoned and probably half-salvaged ship at that point. While slavery can be a difficult question, I think Watto is about as good of a slave owner as one can get. Based on his interactions with Anakin both with others around and in private, it's safe to say that Watto never abused Anakin in any way, ever. Slaves are just the lowest class of people, but they are still people - even if they legally count as property. And we probably can assume that Anakin's friends are also slaves. Having their own home with a lot of "valuable" stuff, not enough to buy themselves out of slavery, but on a surface level at least, their quality of life doesn't seem much different from what Luke had while growing up. Midi-chlorians... I would turn them around: they aren't symbiotic but parasitic, they feed on the force so their presence is only an indicator and not the source of the force. And something meta for the end: While I have nothing against Jake or Natalie personally, I would have done the casting differently. Natalie could play Padme in episode 2 and 3, but for this movie, it should have been Keira, who was playing the decoy queen. She was 14-ish at the time, the same age as Padme is supposed to be, and when the next 2 movies will be made, Natalie will also be the correct age for the 10 years time jump. And I would also age up Anakin to be around 12, so you can have a much more realistic puppy love between the two kids, thanks to better chemistry. Natalie was basically twice as old as Jake, it's no wonder they both felt awkward about their supposed love at first sight story.

[@benlewis4241]

Qui-Gon might have not been able to get very good value for the queens ship, I doubt the stock of used spaceships on Tatooine is very high and the last thing you want to spread to widely around the planet is that there is a crippled starship nearby. You'd probably have to pick one with a poor hyperdrive too. Maul would be able to find them anyway, as he is using the faked Hypernet message to track them. In a bad shuttle Maul's fighter may outclass them outright. I wouldn't say Watto is as best as you can get in terms of slavery, some have literally raised slaves as part of their family and left large amounts at their death- not to say slavery is in any way tolerable of course. In the Revenge of the Sith novelisation it is mentioned that Watto would occasionally beat Anakin, but more often if he was truly angry he would threaten to sell them back to the Huts. The fact that he implanted an explosive chip in them is enough proof he is not a nice person. He liked Anakin yes, but he also would beat him if he was angry. I've known people like that. I think you underestimate Luke's upbringing as well. The Lars have multiple droids, maintenance, speeders- a full aircraft for Luke to go flying in. Why Anakin has three rooms and some purloined junk. Agree with everything else!

[@fredthepeacelily]

My issue with the midichlorians being similar to mitochondria is that if that were the case you could create some bonkers strong jedi via genetic engineering. We know that the kaminoans could manipulate genetics on a ridiculously precise level, meaning that it would have been possible for the jedi to have had an obscenely huge army of knights with off the charts force powers. Cloning is not even exclusive to the prequels. Luke mentions the clone wars when chatting with ben, but for some reason nobody thought that cloning jedi would be a viable option. I like John Does comment that midichlorians instead subsist off the force, being particularly abundant in force sensitive users (and maybe granting a little strength boost) instead of granting a jedi their powers. You retain the mystery and create a biolological link but avoid some of the akward implications.

[@antonisauren8998]

Well, first modern EU medias with both Dark Empire and Trawn trilogy explored this topic for some reason, even without midichlorians existance to bother anyone back then.

[@MiguelGarcia-zx1qj]

Lucas is not reputed for his subtlety (nor inventiveness) when choosing names. Consider this: Luke SKYWALKER will walk among the stars (not to mention the link between Luke and Lucas); Han SOLO is a loner; Obi-Wan KENOBI is a hermit (in Episode IV); and princess Leia's (adopted) family name, ORGANA, resounds of arthurian myths. You can follow, for example, with PAME, that means lotus flower in Indian culture, a symbol of purity; AMIDALA, just a twist away from the Latin word for almond, is a well know symbol of femininity. And the list could continue, on and on. Not subtle at all ... Besides, by the time the movie was being filmed, "mitochondrial DNA" was a buzz word in the media.

[@maxwellgarner3445]

anakin's dad is either Immaculate Conception by the force in some manner, or his dad is some rando that Shimi was forced to suffer. She was a slave after all

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Slaves usually have rights too.

[@AlMcpherson79]

I headcanon that no matter what the Jedi Council said, even Anakin didn't believe it, and therefore always had that burden of thinking he was the product of r

[@JohnDoe-yp3zv]

My problem with Midi-Chlorians isn't that they exist, it's that I'd rather the direction of causality be reversed. As it's explained in the movie, it seems that the Midi-Chlorians are what provide an individual access to the Force or outright creates the Force. If I were to change it, I'd make the Midi-Chlorians somehow subsist off of the Force and otherwise not interact with their host. The Force remains a mystical field that is barely understood logically but understood intuitively. As everything is attached to the Force, everybody has Midi-Chlorians in them, but people especially attuned to the Force create a more fertile environment for Midi-Chlorians to multiply. This way, they are an indirect marker for Force potential and not the direct cause of the Force or how people interact with the Force. Instead of "he's strong in the Force because he has a lot of Midi-Chlorians", it's "he has a lot of Midi-Chlorians because he's strong in the Force". Moreover, it means that it's still possible to have low Midi-Chlorians and still be strong in the Force, for example if you're a Sith Lord playing politics trying to accrue power and you don't want any pesky Jedi having hard evidence of your potential in the Force. A simple prescription drug that has a side effect of creating a caustic environment for Midi-Chlorians would be more than enough, and surely the Jedi aren't so callous as to deny an old Chancellor his medication in the middle of a stressful war.

[@benlewis4241]

I don't know, as we all know the Jedi clearly started the clone wars in the first place so they could take absolute power- note that the leader of the Confederacy himself is a "ex" Jedi. And how convenient that his Jedi friend Sifo Dyas just happened to build an enormous army at the same time? Clearly the Jedi were afraid that Chancellor Palatine would drain the mire and which they entrap the senate in. Jealous and afraid of the Chancellor's popularity they would do anything to undermine him! Just you watch. #Jedideepstate

[@pcarrierorange]

The Jedi probably think the Chancellor’s medication is what’s making him sick. “Let the Force heal you”, they’d say, “the Force will guide your health into balance”. Pack of hypocrites. They conned my aunt into refusing treatment for deathstick-induced sarcosis. The very same “practitioner” was getting actual bacta tank treatment for his battle wounds, and had a cybernetic installed when he lost his hand in a dueling accident!

[@fredthepeacelily]

I like this way better. If the opposite were true you could genetically engineer an army of crazy strong jedi by overstimulating their midichlorian genes.

[@JohnDoe-yp3zv]

@@fredthepeacelily This is unironically the plot of The Mandalorian. Moff Gideon wants Grogu because he wants to splice Grogu's Midi-Chlorian genes into genetically engineered clones of himself.

[@BobofWOGGLE]

In my head, midichlorians are like force-eating deep-sea bacteria, and the force-sensitive host is their geothermal vent. They gather to feed off the living force and care little for anything else. I still like to imagine under this framework that the Jedi can borrow energy from midichlorians, as though the force works like the Spirit Bomb from DBZ and a healthy midichlorian colony would equate to walking around with thousands of people on your back just waiting to lend their strength.

[@captainexcabier]

The problem I have with Midiclorians explaining the Force is that in the original trilogy, it was treated like a religion, with Tarkin telling Vader that he was the last practitioner of it, and Han, representing the everyman, being very skeptical of the Force even existing. This actually brings up another aspect of the Prequels that doesn't quite work, IMO, which is the timing.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

How so? The Force in the OT was clearly a literal, metaphysical phenomenon.

[@DIEGhostfish]

40:16 the force exists in "The whole universe" which were SW real would include the Milky Way, but without Midichlorians or something similar we'd be blind to it. (Though by Lucas's rules life ITSELF can't exist without them either.)

[@ADogNamedStay]

No, leaks are used to describe loss of power or loss of signal or signal leaks in the industry all the time. Especially make sense with something as sensitive as a hyperdrive.

[@toastyrules8221]

It is always a delight to watch these well produced works of art.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I always liked how Rogue Squadron did the laser cannons on the ships. They could be run in different configurations. For example on an X-Wing they could fire all at once, in pairs, or in sequence. I would expect the quad laser turrets to do the same.

[@konk8429]

I'm so glad I fiddled with that notification bell

[@FriendlyDarkwraith]

There were likely other ways Qui-Gon could have gotten the money he needed to buy the parts from Watto, but as soon as he meets Anakin and learns about his Force potential, he immediately changes his plan to one that also allows him to take Anakin with him to Coruscant. And on the subject of Anakin in this movie, I think my only real complaint is that he's a bit too young.

[@benlewis4241]

I think we are told that Qui-Gon is one of the biggest believers in the "living force" no doubt he imagined that meeting Anakin was the forces guidance. Out of interest, how old do you think Anakin should have been?

[@FriendlyDarkwraith]

@@benlewis4241 Like maybe 12 or something. If Padme was 14 in TPM, then having Anakin be just 2 years younger than her doesn't seem so bad. It's also still somewhat believable for him to have attachment issues regarding his mother at that age, especially if he's being taken from the only place and people he's ever known by who are essentially complete and total strangers.

[@denjul_]

Thanks for the premiere I’ll be waiting here for the next 20 hours

[@natetete1379]

I always figured the Naboo we're sort of like Apple fans willing to pay for things to look nice even stuff you'll never see like a hyperdrive. And I always figured Nubian was a company that made engines for commercial vehicles like Pratt and Whitney or Rolls-Royce

[@highjumpstudios2384]

This is truly brief. Thanks king.

[@thebreadcircus]

"This plan is getting briefer all the time." - Lando, 3 ABY -DZ

[@flyingdutchman28]

I mean, it’s bread and a circus. AT THE SAME TIME! How and why would I NOT subscribe to that.

[@FrostbiteDigital]

Holy crap... A video that actually defends the midi-chlorians and has a positive take on them rather than dunking on them like every other person? This is a very warm welcome, what universe do I live in?

[@lolbuster01]

It may interest you that I can think of a situation where electricity is described as a leak. On cars with sparkplug wires, you may get a rich burn on a cylinder and one of the conditions could be a crack in the wires causing the spark to "leak" or take a path or least resistance. The stranger part about it is it may not be consistenet and you'll still get some or occasional no spark at the electrode. Perhaps what R2 had done was pull some power from the hyperdrive's power sources, to which our pilot, not knowing this, refers to it as a leak. Though the hole here would now be, why replace the hyper drive or need to repair it? It should be as simple as restoring the proper connection.

[@sidumonto]

16:10 The Anakin being there coincidence is more like a necessity. If that didn't happen, we wouldn't have anything from that point onwards, and because we do, that MUST happen.

[@BurnDoubt]

The Bread Circus makes a good point about the awful midiclorian "twist" And they say it without saying it: At least it worked within the lore and we'd rather have awkward bits of Lucas's work and the EU than anything Disney has thus far offered

[@benlewis4241]

I sort of liked the midiclorians to be honest, they make sense. Although I think some people overblow them, in the phantom menace they are an indication of someone's potential connection to the force, but some fans (and detractors) use them as literally power numbers like some sort of top trumps game (or DBZ), this annoys me. It is like someone who has never seen an engine learning that petrol has octane numbers and then trying to describe an engines power to someone using the petrol octane number.

[@burnedbread4691]

Force is stored in the balls

[@BurnDoubt]

@@burnedbread4691 nah, you're thinking of Love

[@thebreadcircus]

@@BurnDoubt Nah, you're thinking of pee. Nice reference, Burnedbread. Haven't heard that in years. -ED-1TA

[@BurnDoubt]

@@thebreadcircus ah, yes, you're correct. How Daft of me

[@benlewis4241]

I always thought the 1500 figure for starfighters that the Lucrehulk has is a bit on the absurd side, seeing as how the dedicated warship of a star destroyer only manages a few more than 72. I've always justified this with the 1500 figure being how much it could physically carry if you packed all the hangers, filled the cargo bays, and even keep some stuck to the outer hull. In a situation where you actually expected combat, you'd carry far less so they were all under protection, could be launched and recovered and you had enough service, maintenance, spare parts and ammo capabilities. You saw a similar situation IRL when carriers were transporting planes across the pacific

[@thebreadcircus]

The cross-sections book does list 1500 as "droid starfighter MAX capacity". I tend to think the numbers we get are all for the standard complement. If you swapped out all the 50 landing ships and the MTTs/AATs, I'd say you could cram at least 3000 droid starfighters in. The real concern I have is the cost. A few hundred starfighters in each ship would already be very expensive. When you think that the Trade Federation might need 100,000 vulture droids for the Naboo fleet, it seems absurd. The Empire might not have had 100,000 TIE Fighters at any one time. -DZ

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@thebreadcircus , Why wouldn't The Empire have 100,000 TIEs? Looking at Earth, in 2018 we had ~25,000,000 people under arms. If only 1% of _them_ are fit for space, that would be 250,000 navy/marine personnel. That's enough people to crew a division of Star Destroyers, their escorts, a dedicated scouting echelon, their fleet train, several fortresses/space stations, and still have enough people for a couple thousand fighters. If only 0.003% of 7 _billion_ people can crew that many ships and fighters... then what can 0.003% of countless trillions crew? From various sources, the population of Imperial Center was between 1 Trillion to 2 Trillion. That's a single planet. Admittedly, the planet with the highest population density. So, answer these questions: How many systems does the Empire that have a population in the hundreds of billions? How many systems does the Empire that have a population in the tens of billions? How many systems does the Empire have that have a population in the billions? Sure, this example is flawed because I can only look at personnel requirements, and not manufacturing of a space navy, but if only 0.003% of a single planet's population that's in the billions can provide the people required to pilot a significant number of fighters.... then the entire Empire wouldn't have a problem crewing hundreds of millions of fighters. Transporting 100,000 of them to a single system... yeah, that might be a problem... but does the Empire really need 100,000 fighters to blockade a planet? If you have the Volume 1, Issue 2 of the Star Wars Adventure Journal, may I direct you to A World to Conquer by Dustin Browder? In that lecture, Rear Admiral (retired) Unther, of the Imperial Navy, discussed planetary invasions, including blockade methods. He discusses two types of orbits, the siege orbit and the objective orbit. The siege orbit requires more resources as it completely covers the entire sphere of the planet with ships. Whereas the objective orbit concentrates all ships at a single point, above a capital/major star port. Looking at all the scenes of Naboo from Episode I, I can conclude that Naboo is a low population planet. Furthermore, It's capital city has a very low population density. This leads me to conclude that the capital of Naboo would contain the only spaceport the planet has and it is likely that it is a type 3 spaceport. The entire objective of the Trade Federation was to prevent lightly armed, shielded, and armoured _merchant_ ships from approaching Naboo, in order to force the Republic to rethink the new policies/laws. A squadron of proton-torpedo armed fighters can deal with the _merchant_ ships just as well as a couple of gunship could, so having fighters patrolling the far side of the planet is all that's required. This allows the Trade Federation to concentrate their ships in a geosynchronous orbit over Naboo's capital. This orbit provides them the benefits of concentrating the fleet in case a hostile force enters the systems and having their invasion force concentrated above the objective, reducing the time it will require of them to seize the capital and spaceport. All of this is predicated on two assumptions: 1. All ships entering the system do so at low velocity 2. All ships entering the system do so at a great distance from the planet If either of those two assumptions are invalid, blockades can't work. For examples, the Solo Maneuver (exiting hyperspace in planetary atmosphere), or the Poe Maneuver (hyperspace skipping). Both of those things invalidate the effectiveness of planetary blockades. However, it's possible to having several warships in low planetary orbit, similar to the orbit the ISS has, are able to intercept incoming ships. Note: it takes the ISS 90 minutes to orbit Earth. As for transporting fighters, that is what _fleet carriers_ are designed to do. Looking at Earth... The USS Gerald R. Ford carries 75+ aircraft (let's call it 6 squadrons). It has a length of ~335 meters, a height of ~75 meters (12 meters under water), and a width of 48 meters (at waterline) to 78 maters (at flight deck). As Star Wars' fighters are similar to the size of Earth's fighters, this is a good "benchmark" of what a light/escort carrier in Star Wars should be capable of. A Venator-class fleet carrier has the length of 1,137 meters to 1,155 meters, a width of 548 meters, and a height of 268 meters. It has a single door for it's fighters to use, which is 500 meters long. It is able to carry 35 squadrons. I'm sure we can come up with more efficient fleet carrier designs, however, the Venators are able to perform their role adequately. Of course, we are talking about Trade Federation's droid ships here, from Wookieepedia, the Lucerhulk has a length of ~3,170 meters, a width of ~3,000 meters, and a height of 1,030 meters. Of course, this is extremely deceiving due to all the void space between the arms and the central orb of the ship. However, it will still be able to carry many, many, more fighters than a single Venator, partly due to the size, and partly due to the design of the ship. It is reasonable to conclude that those ships can carry a few thousand droid fighters, of all types, on board. The biggest problem with Star Wars is, scale. Not even the people who can conceptualize the scale are able to accurately depict it. The Empire is 100,000 inhabited systems in size... at a minimum. Its fleet strength should be hundreds of thousands of capital ships (battlecruisers and larger), millions of cruisers, with tens of millions of light escort/patrol ships, and a hundreds of millions of fighters of all types. Note: I classify ships based on design, not that mess that Jason Fry came up with. I classify Imperial-I/-II Star Destroyers to be battleships. Multi-role battleships -- for sure -- but they are still, primarily, battleships and perform the battleship role quite well (when George Lucas and other creators decide to give the Empire more than just Death Stars, Super Star Destroyers, and Star Destroyers).

[@commandoepsilon4664]

I think it works for a number of reasons. For TIEs you need to store more than the fighter itself, but also the crew (pilots and ground crew) and all their supplies. TIEs are rather awkwardly shaped for storage while the Vulture droids can change their shape to some degree to allow for more efficient storage. Star Destroyers are front line combat ships that also carry some fighters, Lucerhulks are freighters that can be converted to armed carriers essentially. Droids don't need gravity like biologicals do, and don't need pilot access, thus they could be stored in odd places (ie upside down in the hanger ceiling).

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@commandoepsilon4664 , Or... I could have written what you did instead of writing my essay. I listed the dimensions of the Venator and Lucerhulks in my essay and compared them to the largest aircraft carrier on Earth... The Venator-class Fleet Carriers probably could carry more fighters if they were better designed. While the Lucerhulks could easily carry several thousands fighters without issues. Launching them all in a timely fashion, that might be an issue, but carrying them wouldn't be.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@Ben Lewis @Aralorn Wolf modern fighters are actually alot bigger than starwars fighters, espeically vulture droids. So to add on to your points: You can fit 15 vulture droids in the same space as a single F-35 (landing gear extended), the F-18s are even bigger and you can fit almost 30 vulture droids in the same area as a single F-18 (landing gear extended). Now TIEs are alot bigger than vulture droids, they are roughly the same length but the Tie is alot wider and alot wider. As a result you can fit 7 vultures in the same space as 1 TIE. A nimitz class carrier carried 64 F-18s (and 20 to 30 other assorted aircraft), thus it would carry about 1920 vulture droids or about 274 TIEs unmodified (useing only the f18 space). If we assume the other 20-30 craft average out the same size as f18s then that another 600-900 vultures or 85-128 TIEs (total 2520-2820 vultures or 360-402 TIEs) Vultures don't need pilots and are survised by droids smaller than humans, who also need less storage space relative to their size. Meaning you could modified a nimitz class to carry even more vulture droids as they don't need as much space as the ~2500 humans needed to operatate 64 F-18s and ~20 other craft, nor would droid ship need the space for its regular crew that the nimitz class needs for its ~2500 regular ship crew. But we can still use it as a baseline. The nimitz class is about 65m tall, by 333m long by 40m wide, roughly rectangular prism. The lucrehulk is 3170m by 3009m by 696m (1028m if you add the sensor towers, but these are irrelvant for carrying capacity, and through the calculations off) roughly circular prism shaped (with a hollow ring section) The Nimitz volume is ~ 1 132 200 m^3 Just the Coreship volume alone is ~ 179 594 380 m^3 (or more than 179 times more space than a Nimitz class) The entire Lucrehulk volume includeing core ship (but before we remove the hollow ring) is ~ 4 949 296 785.6 m^3, but accounting for an estimated size for the hollow ring I got ~ 3 739 500 132.8 m^3, or more than 3739 Nimitz classes. This means the Coreship alone, if it was Purley a carrier (rather than a carrier-troopship-Logisitics ship hybrid) should be able to carry 343 680 vultures minium and well over 504 780 vultures. And that's before we account for its crew of just 3060 (of which only 60 are set as organics) vs the 895 000 organics in the calculation. The whole lucrehulk devoted to being a fleet carrier should be able to carry atleast 7 178 880 vultures and probably more than 10 543 980 vultures. And once again this is before we account for the fact the crew is only 350 organics and 17500 droid crew rather than the 18 695 000 organics in the calculation. We can thus see that 1500 vultures is a mear fraction of its potential load, which in Canon is taken up by the ground troops aswell as spare cargo room for 5 million tons of cargo, and 100 000 organic passengers. And the fact it has 5 years of consumables rather than just 1.5 to 2 years that the Nimitz has. But even with the other roles taken into account 1500 actually seems like a massive underestimation, seeing as a Coreship alone should be able to easily carry 350 000 vultures...

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

For the hyperdrive leak I would actually take a note from Star Trek. There the ships don't use electrical wires, but instead pump plasma through the ship. What if the hyperdrive leak is that kind of damage. The generator creates enough plasma for the hyperdrive, but there is a leak in the pipe and not enough reaches the engine.

[@gregmize01]

Disney Wars VIII Lol, love it!😅

[@GeorgeThoughts]

I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!

[@ericvulgate]

It makes me sick!

[@DIEGhostfish]

The quad-cannons on the Lurcehulk are Turbolaser sized though, or at least very heavy laser cannons.

[@TheREALSimagination]

Are the Hutts NOT all that which Panaka said they were? I suppose there could be a human component in Jedi that normal humans don't have, which allows them to use the Force they borrow from the midi-chlorians. That way, if they reside is ALL living things, there would be an explanation as to why peasants can't use the Force. Other than awareness of it and training.

[@GR20000]

The issue with mitichlorians is that it's an answer to a question nobody had. Mitichlorians have no real explanatory power, removing them from the movie entirely does not change the plot (for the exact reason you mentioned) and they feel like a very materialist answer to an aspect of the movie that was always, and will continue to be presented as mystical in nature. The force certainly doesn't read as materialist in the first movie, and think you have to agree there, so this is a sort of stealth change from the implied nature of the force. "Energy field" is mystical, "cells that produce the force" is biological. The existence of a physical structure to the force is the problem people have with it.

[@thebreadcircus]

Biology has always been part of the Force, though. By its very nature, biology is a set of physical structures, so I don't understand where you'd draw a line. The example of Force Lightning might be useful here. Given that the Force is not materialist, what's going on there? Suppose you do science to Palpatine's lightning. Would you find a purely mystical, immaterial stream of electrons? If Force lightning isn't electricity, what does that imply for how it interacts with the electronics in Vader's suit and cyborg hand? -DZ

[@aralornwolf3140]

It does have an explanatory power though. How many _Jedi_ are there? How are all the Jedi identified at birth (excluding baby Palpatine) so they can start their training when they are toddlers? Do the Jedi go around to _every_ planet, _every_ station, _every_ hospital looking for new members? There aren't that many Jedi in the Republic... perhaps no more than a few tens of thousands. They can't have spend their entire life looking for infants. :/ Thus, some other way of identifying force sensitives are required... hence, Mitichlorians. This is one of the rare times Mr. Lucas actually thought of an answer to the questions people would inevitably ask... "how were all the infants identified so they could be taken to the Jedi Academy before they became 'too old to begin training'?" Then there is the follow-up question "what happens when a person, who is too old to begin training, realizes they are force sensitive and start training _themselves?"_ If they were tested for force sensitivity at birth and then sent to the Jedi for training as toddlers... then the only question requiring answering is "how did Papa Sheev avoid being found?" It could be as simple as his parents bribing the medical tech to falsify the test so that the parents could keep their child. *Shrugs*

[@GR20000]

​ @The Bread Circus Imaterial source does not imply it has no material effect, Magic in fiction by it's nature is something nonmaterial that has material effects. The fact that the force effects the world in a material way is not meaningful evidence that the force has a materialist cause. Force lightning is electrons, but the explanation that sub cellular organoids is doing it is just as incoherent from a purely scientific perspective as "it's magic", the energy required would destroy any cell in any carbon based body. Such a biological explanation opens up the question "how does force lightning work" for which there is not a sane or coherent answer you can get to from organoids. "It's magic" while certainly not detailed is a fine answer so long as the force as a tool and narrative device behaves in reasonably predictable and comprehensible ways. Like, I actually study physics, and your statement of "where does all the force go, well, onto these tiny orginoids! Made me do a double take because that would cause force levitation to regularly dismember you on a cellular level. As if you lifted anything that would normally crush you with the force, it's sure as hell is going to be enough force on those orginoids to rip them out of your cellular memrain. And even then, that doesn't solve the problem, that's still a telekinetic transference of force, or, you know, magic. Magic allows the force to simply be a set of abilities and tools in the setting, one's natural tallent towards it could be biological without making the whole of the system biological (fantasy stories do this all the time, wizards have legacies, that doesn't make magic not magic just because tallent for it's comprehension and use is at least partially hertiable) I think it's worth noting that the text of the OT was written in such a way that the force cam across as mystical to the vast majority of people, weather intentionally or not, which produces a contradiction in the text by de-mystifying it. The simple question is "when asked what the force is, why doesn't Old Ben say anything about the most improant part about how the force works", which is an awkward question to answer. To the other commenter, ​ @Aralorn Wolf uh, the answer to that question is that they use the force, the i-material essence that actively connects all living things. IN CANNON they don't roam around with midichlorian detectors just trying to stumble onto force sensitives, they you holochrones and a force ritual to reach out into the galaxy to try and sense their presence. Midichlorians as a means to detect jedi would be jedi stumbling to every hospital to give them a test, when the actual method of jedi detection is, wait for it, a force ritual. "How are some force sensitives not found" often times by being found by dark side users before the Jedi (not necessarily sith) or living in a place that disrupts force activity (sheev himself makes EVERYWHERE he goes into a place that disrupts force activity). The kids who are missed, by in large, don't develop force powers for the same reason Luke never did, despite being very naturally gifted, until given instruction by Obi Wan, that is that even talented force Users are highly unlikely to learn how to use it naturally outside of the most intuitive uses of the force (such as Anikains enhanced reflexes)

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@GR20000, From Wookieepedia "Trained Jedi could sense high levels of the Force in individuals. The presence of Force-sensitives in a vicinity could also be sensed. On rare occasion, such Force-sensitivity could be detected emanating from a powerful "vergence in the Force".[2] " Key word _powerful._ Vast majority of force users are not powerful. Note, that's from the Legends section of Force-sensitive. I can't find the part that says anything about Canon.

[@GR20000]

@@aralornwolf3140 I stand some level of corrected, but I recall in the episodes of the clone wars where Palpy is trying to steal force sensitives the jedi consil uses force precognition to determine the force sensitives to hunt. The capacity to derive information at greate distances is something force users have been able to do since episode 1 (and while, obviously, the destruction of aldaran is a massive event in the force, the point stands that specialized techniques are an entierly justifable extension of that power)

[@TheFuri0uswc]

Love these breakdowns

[@jaqssmith1666]

electrical leakage is very much so a thing. In a fault state a component that would otherwise stop a circuit has failed and power is being used when you don't want it to.

[@Balevolt]

I alway though the laser bursts where the lasers deflecting off the shields.

[@thebreadcircus]

In some cases, sure. However, we picked examples to showcase that _cannot_ be explained by that. -ED-1TA

[@newsbender]

Can't believe you brought up mitochondria without using a quote from chubbyemu, the mitochondrial master on KZbin!

[@FormerlyAVM]

Mighty Mitochondria the powerhouse of the cell

[@akshaytrayner1960]

Awesome vid

[@StupidMarioBros1Fan]

I apologize if this comes off as rude or offensive but with how passive aggressive the channel has been about the Disney era and the "always go with original lore" mentality, I was honestly expecting a lot more negativity and/or "this constantly contradicts the old lore" so it really is a pleasant surprise to see how supportive you are of this film. It has been refreshing to see an Original Trilogy Fan (or Fans? Always mention "we" but I've only heard the one narrator) that is supportive of what this movie did for the lore. Yes the movie has its flaws but more often than not people talk about how lots of things should've been different with valid and invalid reasons. Whereas this series so far has mostly been "this is fine, good or even great" with an occasional "this idea is flawed, here's how it could've been done better" especially the bit about midi-chlorians, probably the biggest hot-topic of the Prequels. Was not expecting this much positivity for The Phantom Menace. I'm a Prequels Kid, this movie came out when I was like 2 and my parents were huge Star Wars fans so I grew up with all 6 movies. My father wasn't a big fan of Jar Jar but otherwise my family enjoyed the Prequels. Then as a teenager I started to hear from friends as well as the internet that the Prequels were actually horrible and temporarily joined the bandwagon before realizing "wait no these movies really do have good things in them. they're flawed but still Star Wars" So over the years I've paid more attention to which channels have valid criticisms of the Prequels and which ones just blindly hate them, that's not to say the Prequel positivity is why I follow this channel, just that I've noticed it & enjoy it. To be honest I followed because of the videos criticising the Sequels with established lore but mainly because of the attitude. Every video has had a real sense of professionalism and yet still showcases feelings through clever word choice as well as being informational. Always learn something new with each video.

[@thebreadcircus]

No offense taken. I'll admit that a lot of my complaints are based on inconsistencies with pre-prequel lore. At the very start of the channel, the attitude was going to be moderately anti-prequel. With a collection of books published before 1999, you can know a lot more than many people realise. Very quickly, I changed my mind and embraced prequel-era lore. The reason prequel lore is acceptable is that it's trying to fit in. Everything about the EU and the prequel lore was designed to be consistent. Half the appeal is that these are parts of a single coherent universe. You could say I'm a transitional OT fan. You won't catch me saying "the movie is called Star Wars, not A New Hope". I can't remember back far enough to when I hadn't seen the entire OT. As a lifelong SW fan, I had enough time to love the original version of the universe. There were a few gripes I had, but on the whole I was completely unsurprised. Because I knew quite a bit about the pre-prequel setting, I was less surprised than, say, a fan of the OT movies alone. All the prequels could do with changes, but they all slot into the universe the way they're supposed to. The lore had an enormous gap in it already, for the sole purpose of leaving room for the prequels. Personally, I never understood the widespread anti-prequel sentiment. People had always disliked them, and I had several objections of my own. No matter how much I may claim to prefer the OT+EU over OT+PT+EU, the galaxy I'd rather live in would be one that includes prequel-era lore. I draw a sharp line between Disney Wars and the real SW universe. As for splitting out prequel lore from pre-prequel, I just consider that a bit of trivia, a neat thing to know. It reminds me of the history of Star Trek Enterprise. When that came out, I was very much opposed to it. It was clearly not Star Trek, to the point the first two seasons have it just titled "Enterprise", as if it was embarrassed to be Trek. They eventually fixed that, as well as making a few changes to the show itself. Then, a few years later, JJ would reboot the Trek universe, and shortly after would come the STD re-reboot. With the benefit of hindsight, Enterprise was genuine Trek that was pretending to be something else. To appeal to people who never liked Star Trek. Still, it was clearly meant to be set in the same continuity as everything else. (For the royal "we", The Bread Circus is a crew of 2. There's one on narration/scriptwriting (me, DZ), as well as being the lore expert so long as we're still talking Star Wars. The hard bit is editing the raw materials into this calibre of video. That's the other half of the channel: my counterpart, ED-1TA. In the end there's a mix of our senses of humour that make it into each video.) -DZ

[@antonisauren8998]

Rather than prequels retconing old lore, I was more frustrated how EU did massive flip to imidietly fit into new films. How mostly Denning scratched most changes within NR and NJO to make them carbon copy of state seen in new movies. Introducing old senate chambers, Jedi robes, the council, Padawans, removing most of the changes Luke did to differentiete from fallen order. I was reading all this arround 2010 so prequels were complete and settled down but it hit me almost as hard as later Disney reboot. Didn't made it through LotF as it got totally different vibes than books released before prequels, that I liked a lot more.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@antonisauren8998 My biggest issue was Tattooine Ghost having everyone on Tattooine know Anakin was Vader and at LEAST Kittster know Leia was his daughter. Which retroactively made Thrawn a moron to send the Noghri after her.

[@711desmond]

I think Nubian would be like the “name” of the ship, like the f 22 raptor or the f14 tomcat

[@newsbender]

It means the manufacturer, like Boeing.

[@voxorox]

The issue with the midichlorian explanation was originally that it *wasn't* an explanation. It was just a random word and number, a deus ex to get Anakin into the story. The real explanations came later, in the expanded material, and then it actually worked. Just poorly handled within the film itself.

[@AustinJFerret]

The midichlorian is the powerhouse of the Force

[@eldronjaedike9374]

You hand wave we in the milky way can't be Force Sensitive, (you said Jedi), because we don't have Midichlorians. But ignore Qui-gon-jin's line,"Llife in our universe couldn't exist without the (magical thinking) 'Midichlorians'... "

[@aghilton8531]

Wonderful work as always. These videos always brighten the start of my week. Loved hearing this take on midichlorians. To me, it’s reasonable that in a universe with a confirmed spiritual or overmind aspect that affects the physical reality, that there would be some kind of interaction between that spiritual aspect and the physical. I don’t think giving an explanation for or pointing out the existence of such and intersection lessens the wonder over the esoteric nature of the cosmic aspect of the force.

[@drackestalentorgen166]

thats the thing about Trade Federation ships...they are merchant ships, at that moment they carried a lot of Droids for invasion, but they were cargo ships, Naboo was just pathetic in its defences s they could get over taken by the Nemosians in the first place

[@rumlr8851]

you should definitely do a retrospective on mandos naboo starfighter

[@antonisauren8998]

It was shock for me seeing those TPM reference books with stock N1 having hyperdrive. AotC lore stuck in my head with the yacht having dicking slots to carry figher escort through hyperspace. Looking into it now, even there it's metioned they have short range hyperdrive. So they were tardis from day one, fitting not only R2 legs in limbo, but much more. Mando didn't break anything with adding pocked dimention for Grogu's crib. :D

[@kdub3890]

7:00...extra credit shall be awarded for using "alas" correctly. The number of writers who think "alas" is a contraction (or slang) for "at last" is staggering, and I die a little bit every time I hear it.

[@thebreadcircus]

Incredible, I've never heard of such a thing. It reminds me of the sheer disappointment of seeing subtitles written by someone who didn't understand the original dialogue. Words are swapped with other ones, even when the meaning and spelling are entirely different. Even simple idioms get mangled. I'd be embarrassed if something like that happened on this channel. -DZ

[@AlMcpherson79]

at roughly 28:00 Yoda: Never his mind on where he was, hm, what he was doing me: HE WAS A SLAVE YOU SLEEMO NO WONDER HE TURNED DARK!

[@samipeltonen9337]

I love how this channel and the ‘not obi wan reacts’ channel are both rewatching episode 1 at the same pace. So much great content.

[@airistal]

When it come to life not existing without the midi-chlorians you may consider that as a separate galaxy their entire biology basics may be different than anything we know and can be very literal.

[@samueljames8654]

Ok, so qi-gon reasonably would think mitoclorians are necessary for life as everything that lives has them and anything that doesnt, doesnt. From his perspective with his knowledge it seems a reasonable statement

[@LightningWaltz]

Are we there yet?

[@PJKP82]

From which sourcebook is the fuel cell info? I thought a vessel’s consumables were the ship’s fuels and foods.

[@thebreadcircus]

That info turns up in a couple of places, I believe Platt's Starport Guide might also mention fuel converters. The ones we used in the video are from WEG40027, the Tramp Freighters book (page 30). Restocking consumables is listed as a different item from fuel, though both are said to be cheap. Consumables include water, coolant, lubricant, oxygen, and food. In most cases, even a fully resupply should only cost a few hundred credits. -DZ

[@PJKP82]

@@thebreadcircus Thanks for the fast response! But “Standard Maintenance and restocking”, yes. The restocking fee calculations do mention the parts you mentioned. But oddly enough, fuel cells were not mentioned. How long can an average vessel stay in the air without refueling, if this is not what the vessel’s consumables are meant for? And what is your source, so I can refer to it in the future? Obviously, this is a question from a fellow WEG Star Wars gamemaster. :)

[@thebreadcircus]

That is odd. While getting these references originally, I found there were actually two different Tramp Freighter books. Fuel is mentioned in WEG40027 from 1990, but not in WEG40095 from 1994. It looks like the latter book was updated for WED 2e, which explains why they bothered releasing a duplicate. I see a Fuel section just after Standard Maintenance and Restocking, and before Repairs on the other column. As for the Fuel Consumption Table, that's all the way at page 77. That table tells us a Falcon-like freighter has 50 fuel cells of capacity. It drains 1 cell for an hour of atmospheric flight, therefore we expect about 50 hours in the air before refuelling. On the other hand, 1 cell lasts for a month of "realspace ops", so that would last about four years before refuelling. Pleasure getting into these things with you. I'm just an aspiring gamemaster for the moment, we'll see how that plays out over the next few years. If you haven't already seen the "creating characters" video we did earlier, that one is a WEG gameplay session in disguise. -DZ

[@PJKP82]

@@thebreadcircus Thanks and the same! I need to check out the 1. edition books. For this fuel cell detail is one of the biggest differences between the 1. edition and the 2. edition so far… well, that I’ve noticed. After 20-30 years of roleplaying, I also agree with your ”older is more canon” type of perspective, yet I never thought that there would be such large changes between the different WEG editions! And yes, your character creation video is my favorite of them all. Keep up the good work. And if you ever want some roleplaying in a galaxy far, far away… not to mention some D6 rolling or just talk some old school Star Wars, you are welcome to join in… (and everyone else, too)!

[@hudmo4193]

Star Wars consideration goes brr in 20h, and I’ll be counting down

[@ericlizama8552]

Clearly Sheev Palpatine is Anakin's father.

[@katathoombz]

[libationes deis algorithmi]

[@RCsev070]

Praise the algorithm

[@spookywizard1265]

My biggest issue with midichlorians is that they have some kind of unfluctuating 'count', I think it takes away some of the idea of fluctuating power levels that adds to stories, if you're basically screwed because of some arbitrary number you were born with. But, logically, it does make sense. If they handled it by saying you propagate midichlorians by training in the force, I would really have no issue with it.

[@ardanblade641]

My issue is Midichlorians make the Force antiseptic, measurable, and potentially modifiable. When I hear the line “Life creates it,” I do not think Yoda meant things being alive, but living. The emotions, the struggles, the ups, and the downs. We must not forget what else Yoda says. “Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.” The Force is something felt, not measured. It swells and dwindles with feelings, with state of mind, and with the content of one’s character, not an arbitrary count of sub-cellular particles. Midichlorians no more belong in Star Wars than aliens do in Indiana Jones. When you change the spirit of a story, you alter that story, most often to its detriment.

[@rynobehnke8289]

You do realized the earlist populic mention of Mediclorians was in an interview with George Lucas that was made between Empire and Jedi right? And that the idea on the "hind the scenes" papers existed already for the first movie too. You just chose your assumption about the force based on 1 line form Yoda that is contradicted by every other metion of the forces workings in the OT as the end all be all of the force didn't you?

[@orvillewright9246]

I think the problem is, mystical things do not need to touch the material world at all. It does not need a biological explanation, because it is not a biological ability. If it is psychic, it needs only touch the living creatures souls. If they had said Mitocloriens are a bi-product of high force power, because the Force causes them to grow, I at least would be more satisfied with the explanation. I hope this explanation helps people like Bread Circus, who do not get what the problem is, at least a little bit.

[@dextrodemon]

see i think the problem with your first come first serve approach to the lore is that a lot of the time someone made like the least creative most troublesome band aide fix for the little inconsistencies from the films in some random blurb or w/e. so you end up with a pretty lame uncreative universe. usually with a new planet for every unexplained word.

[@thebreadcircus]

Interesting, what are some of your favourite examples? Cases where the older lore was lame and it was replaced with something far better. It's definitely true that you need to make exceptions. When an idea doesn't fit in with the rest of the established universe, noticing that is an important skill. Discard the mistaken lore, the things that make no sense for the SW universe. Technically it's case-by-case, but sticking to the rule of thumb won't steer you far wrong. -DZ

[@dextrodemon]

@@thebreadcircus for me the main example is 'the light side' itself, there's nothing in the original trilogy that says there's a corresponding 'light side' to go with the 'dark side,' the closest is luke saying, 'the good side.' but even then i don't think it should be taken as definitive. there's no reason the force has to be dualistic like that. the dark side can be just a small part of a much greater whole, and i think the implications of that, on the prophesy 'bring balance to the force' are way more interesting, and it leads to a way more expansive universe to set stories in. it's like if the matrix stuck with just goodies and agents, you don't get all the weird fun programs like the merovingian, it's just sith vs jedi forever. and i think the 'light side' was just made up for some video game which is more to do with how video game stories work, not whats good for the universe.

[@koobmoon]

29:30

[@tibby7709]

okay you got me, I like midiclorians now god damnit

[@ddd09ish1]

maybe i was exposed to anime too early but i never had a problem with midichlorians.

[@DIEGhostfish]

37:47 There's a very strong Space-Lysenkoist movement against force heritability.

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

I still think Anakin is too young for the movie. In the script he was supposed to be 14 which matches closer to Padmé's age. Aside form making their romance a tad less creepy their character arc's would've been mlre closely aligned imo. Iirc in the original script Ani and Padme destroy the capital ship together. He could still be innocent and bright eyed but still with hints of who he could become. As he in ep II he's basically a new character. Also the way slavery is depicted in this movie is just... Well its star wars so i dont expect things to be too horrific but its like an old white slavery narrative.

[@711desmond]

PARROT

[@UnitSe7en]

What are midichlorians? It's heroin.

[@MrDDiRusso]

As advanced as the technology in Star Wars is, they don't use guided missiles. 🙄

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

They do, didn't you watch episode 2 or 3? There are guided missiles in both of those movies.

[@thebreadcircus]

We also have something far older: proton torpedoes. When Luke fires a salvo, the two torps make about a 90 degree turn to enter the thermal exhaust port. That was always part of the plan, so it has to be part of their standard behaviour. Boba Fett's jetpack has a rocket launcher facing straight up, too. That seems like it would have to be a guided missile if you want to hit anything. -DZ

[@youpeoplearenuts2]

I have an issue with your defense of Midichlorians. You're not wrong per se, but I think you miss the actual reason people don't like them. Before this movie, most fans of the OT would have seen The Force as an entirely spiritual phenomenon. You almost touch on this when you describe it as "Mysterious", but "mysterious" and "spiritual" are not the same thing. Spiritual phenomenons defy explanation by their very nature. The miracles in the Bible would not be miracles if they had a reasonable explanation. This is backed up by the fact that characters talk about and interact with the force in a quasi religious manor. "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter" is not something you would say about a clearly physical phenomenon, explainable by scientific means. The issue here is not that the explanation doesn't work, but in explaining it at all. It takes the fantastic, quasi religious aspect of the OT, and makes it as mundane as electricity. I'm liking the rest of this series so far.

[@kahleeb624]

I truly never understood the hate for midiclorians.... like... Kenobi literally already explained that the force was an energy field that was in everything. So they basically just gave the force a tangible idea. The mystery though and intrigue is still completely there. Knowing that midiclorians exist literally changes NOTHING and only adds to the mystery and intrigue. Its so stupid that people got and still get so illogically angry about midiclorians. I loved that they put a quantifiable justification for where the force resides but still doesnt explain how, or why, or what exactly the force is. We have literally similar things in our own reality... gravity is a perfect example. We know what gravity does, we know generally how it functions and we know enough to even make accurate predictions for stars and such. But at the end of the day we have no idea what gravity actually is or if its even a thing or just a force without a particle. So we can use gravity(aka. The Force), we can calculate and predict with gravity, and we even know how it works but we still dont know why or what causes it. Mediclorians are exactly the same. They may be a quantifiable way of seeing someones force potential but we still have no idea where they cane from, how they started, or how any of it works. We were basically just given a new "particle" per say in the Star Wars galaxy. Same as we found the bosom particle but dont actually know what that particle is. Its juet such a dumb thing to be angry about when there are far far bigger issues with the prequels. I absolutely love them and grew up with them and the originals but geez... the midiclorians are what you got upset about and not like ya know... the trilogy starting from TRADE negotiations... the boring dialouge dumps and the stilted acting along with all the horrendous looking cgi even for the time... so please, get mad at the ACTUAL ISSUES and PROBLEMS instead of irrationally getting angry about a freakin particle.... 😂😂

[@WILDFIRE101]

Dude it’s been 24 years. Why do people still care?

[@valley_robot]

I'm a big star wars guy, it's hard to explain but I'll try, star wars is more than the movies to us, it's like a way of life, there is no other franchise in history that has fans like star wars fans, we love this stuff because it's a deep dive into the technical details so that gives us more star wars content. Star wars was the 3rd film I saw in the cinema as a child, it has a massive amount of nostalgic feelings all around it's lore for us, it has a positive message mostly and we star wars fans have a positive attitude towards life. Have a nice day mate, may the force be with you

[@crater0504]

Because generally there isn't really a hard time limit on how long people care about things.

[@spookywizard1265]

Its not like anything has come to replace it since that time. Maybe I'll move on if people continue to make great movies.

[@John-fk2ky]

You clicked. If you don't care, WHY are YOU here wasting your time? I don't click on videos I don't care about at all, so why do you?

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@crater0504 , That makes sense. I wonder if Friday Night Caps would understand that concept...

[@scribblebeck]

What's with this clout-chasing trend of uploading long videos and titling them "very brief"?

[@thebreadcircus]

We have far more to say than we have the labour to be able to create. For every minute that makes it into a video, another five minutes don't. I imagine it is the same for a lot of other creators. -ED-1TA