NEWS: Elite's New Era, Python MK2 Arrives, SCO Drives Engineerable & More

ELITE DANGEROUS NEWS
Patch 18.04 supercruises into the game bringing with it the much anticipated Python Mark 2, ARX store price rises send ripples through the community, the Elite Dangerous Web store gets a very welcome refresh
and the engineering leash comes off Achilles SCO drives. o7 CMDRs
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[@cmdrkla-2]

Ability to scrap/reimburse/recycle engineering would be a very positive step if FDev are willing and able...o7 Edited to reduce salt 😂

[@lausianne]

I enjoy engineering quite a bit, actually...

[@cmdrkla-2]

@@lausianne so do I. I'm not sure if I made my point clearly. I was supporting a discussion from the video, and it would be good to get some mats back if you change your mind or need to re engineer newer modules. o7

[@jakeledd]

@@cmdrkla-2 the way you wrote your original message makes it seem like you'd be fine with getting rid of engineering :P

[@lausianne]

@@cmdrkla-2 Thanks, yes, that would be nice, of course! 🤩7

[@Jugom6]

I'd definitely love to be able to get some materials back from all the engineered FSDs I'll be replacing for the overcharged ones.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Something to make engineering slightly less of a chore would be nice.

[@PantherU]

that's supposedly coming

[@mikewaterfield3599]

@@PantherU I’d settle for a reduction in mat requirements especially for on foot Ody gear. It took 21 datamined wakes to get my P2’s FSD to G5 increased range.

[@Odin314]

They gotta get rid of the random +x% boosts that make you reroll. I think if they did that (and maybe made rep gains from engineering projects a bit higher to compensate from rolling less) that'd help out a ton. It'd make engineering cost less, and I think perhaps a slight reduction in cost of engineering on top of this would be nice too to help reduce the grind. I think a rework of some of the engineer unlock requirements would be good too. Focus on the ones everyone cheeses like e.g. Etienne Dorn's 50 escape pods, make them less obnoxious to get.

[@kronos48221]

They should up the weekly arx limit from 400 to 1000 imo

[@bbbenj]

And the arx you buy with real money to... No, bring back the old prices, much better...

[@mohamed-amenyussuf1185]

There shouldn't even be an arx limit.

[@bbbenj]

@@dom-ct6ie sorry, wrong spelling from my phone : arx, not armor, I corrected my message.

[@agentmith]

But then people wouldn’t be so impatient that they spend $ on arx

[@dom-ct6ie]

@@bbbenj ahh

[@That90sKid]

That was one of the most thought-out videos and really put some of the nuances and arguments at rest that we see within the community. You've done a great job explaining community progression here. Thank you, love your stuff.

[@mbrown7361]

It's why I love this channel. I'm also happy to see comments here aren't as jaded as other channels, too.

[@BillCharlesworth-vl1bg]

I am coming back to the game having been away for just under a year fighting the Big C. Now i am in a better place i coming back to a better game by the look of It.

[@Kellett781]

Congrats and welcome back, warrior.

[@TheBuurPit]

Hello buddy. All power to you o7 ❤️

[@abrielkeane4169]

Awesome!

[@aitoluxd]

Totally unrelated but each time I tune in to witchspace news, I always say "I'm Commander Burr" whenever it gets to that part 😅

[@TheBuurPit]

Me too.

[@adiedri38]

I am very happy with everything, very much looking forward to the future. ***One*** thing I wish they would do. Have my carrier recognize me as the owner. .

[@TheBuurPit]

Can recommend edcopilot for that and a bunch of other stuff.

[@exoplanet2013]

Yes , after spending billions of hard earned credits it would feel much better to hear , " Welcome home commander " .

[@smoothcannibal5371]

That's my biggest complaint about the carrier. I don't truly feel like it's mine. experience is basically identical to a carrier I don't own. Npc characters on the carrier don't even interact with me. I'm invisible to them.

[@Dingbat-tb5wz]

I've been saying this since carriers were first introduced, for all the good it's done. Typical Frontier sloppiness imho.

[@cmdrc-dweller3103]

Great work team Buur. Crammed a lot with a comprehensive summary as always. As ever, my go-to place for update catch-ups. O7

[@jechez69]

Greetings from Spain, commander. Of all the channels I follow for Elite Dangerous information, yours stands out as the best by far. Here's one more follower for you, thanks for your videos. I hope to keep watching them for a long time.

[@TheBuurPit]

Hello Spain! Thank you ☺️ o7

[@nickludlam]

I bought the ship. I’m happy to pay some money if it means the game continues in development

[@kingcelaya1]

Yup. I have spent hundreds on arx. Just wish there were more kits for the new ships.

[@Kellett781]

I see good things for Elite and Frontier as long as they continue to invest in Elite and not try to push out more crap.

[@franader]

Despite the previous failures and downfalls of frontier devs regarding Elite, I'll be buying the Python Mk2 and a bit more arx just to express my support and desire to have Elite Dangerous grow into the future and to give it yet another chance to give us, the players, the features we've always been dreaming of.

[@DryHeatAndSand]

Thanks for the call-out.

[@sidrat2009]

While FDEV struggle to sell cosmetics SpaceBourne 2 developer Burak Dabak has released version 4.1.0 and 4.2.0 is in preview since 29 March. Check out the content features for the stable version 4.1.0 and remember it's one guy, possibly a bit more by now but not done encumbered by Braben.

[@Dwumper]

I didn't realize until now that I started using it more, but SCO is a way bigger gamechanger than I thought at first. Trading, exploring, bounty hunting (hunting down pirates for contracts for example is a lot more combat and a lot less cruising to signals) or fighting in combat zones are all much more convenient now. Even for smaller distances, giving a boost at the start feels great. It's not just faster and a lot less tedious to move around in system, but also more engaging. And also, seeing that a station or objective is 50k Ls away, doesn't produce the same groan it used to. It's not a huge change, but SCO had a very positive impact on everything I do in game. You hit the nail on the head here. I hope your conclusions about the future are just as correct.

[@mitchmorrison791]

Id love to be able to get mats in a WAY easier way... and quadruple the amount mined via SRV.

[@pineapplepizzasandwich1974]

I think the price increase is entirely the wrong approach. What they NEED to do is add stuff that is actually worth buying. I am currently sitting on some 40.000 arx but there is nothing I'd consider worth buying. I have the paint jobs, weapon and engine colors I want. Most of the ship kits are bleh and the thargoid kits are not transformative enough. They need to figure out things that are both cool and fun. Like space fireworks, alternative horn sounds, light decorations, etc. And just imagine the things they could sell you if you could decorate your ships interior, not just your cockpit with some lame bobbleheads.

[@Wassup-Doc]

I just made it to Rho Cassiopeiae and back in a Diamondback Explorer with no shields, what a brainstorm getting back !

[@Dwumper]

I think it was about a year ago when you made a video about a financial report by Frontier, which had me worried. The game made money and they expected it to keep making money for a few years, but looking at it, it also seemed like the sort of thing execs would say "keep the game running as long as it's profitable but wind down support and updates", essentially abandoning it. Glad to see they chose to keep updating the game instead and maybe realized that there is a lot that the game is great at compared to competitors. As for the monetization, I don't mind actually. The game has to make money if we want any attention on it, we can't have our cake (of minimal monetization) and eat it too (get updates to the game at this stage). And this is not too bad of a way to do it. I hope this new push is successful and this really is the start of a new era for the game.

[@dantesinferno7350]

Python Mk2 needs one more 5 size to be really useful

[@garyj4046]

Pretty amazing how much more quality development has taken place since FD cut staff...

[@Slawen495]

The new opening screensaver is probably good. But the menu screen - a burning hangar - is already boring. It's time to put out the fire in the hangar. Yes, recycling mechanics have been needed for a long time! And the ability to recycle improved suits and weapons.

[@Garryck-1]

Agreed. I'm currently in the Colonia region. We don't HAVE any burning stations out here. It's annoying to be forced to watch and listen to that, every time I'm on that screen!

[@alfredocorso2891]

They could add Salvage missions.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Great Video. This was on balance a good update. A Scrapping mechanic would of course be welcome but we all know that with Elite, all too often, the Grind is the game. Back to swapping out my 30+ already fully engineered FSDs. Busy, busy, busy. o7

[@BrandonOsborn404]

I completely agree, "...school of hard knocks..." isn't bypassed by a zero re-buy for a basic+ ship. It's enough to frustrate a newbie; while, at the same time, allowing them to review their tactics and figure out a better tactic. Thanks for the news.

[@mikedawe692]

Cargo running has definitely got a much needed shot in the arm with the SCO. Those long distance in system jobs that pay out might now be viable, without being able to cook and eat a meal in the time it takes to make a delivery to a 100k + delivery or pick up site.

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

Now all that is needed is either worlds or moons with flora and fauna, and atmospheres and clouds, ala either Star Citizen or No Man's Sky and Elite would be back to being something special.

[@CitizenGold]

I would love to see those of us that have paid cash for some of our ARX to have them increased by a multiplier averaged out from the rough increases in costs. It just feels like the amount we paid doesn't have the same purchasing power as when we purchased them.

[@DerKaetzer]

Thanks for the News! For myself, I say that FDEV certainly did catch my attention, and they seem to have put much more thought into the first new ship they released, when compared to the slightly bulkified cardbord copies of the past that were Viper and Cobra 4. Still, they have a long reputation of false promises to make up for, before I am willing to pay anything more than attention to them, and the ARX store prince increases are not going to speed this up.

[@FitzzBang_the_Swaffelaar]

o7 Haven't played for years.. that learning curve would hit me hard again. But I'll give it a go I'm commander Darth Sidious Alpha Backer.. Cheers

[@1darkthought]

I would pay all the money for ship interiors.

[@sammasic5849]

I would agree that many would.

[@aiedenoldstien9751]

If only the game could possibly support it without imploding.

[@evanhughes7831]

Honestly I feel like that would just a be a waste of time in the current game. What would I be gaining for walking in out of my ship over and over? Time it takes to take off? I would like to see more purpose for being on the ground, like some level of deployable outposts kinda like No Man's Sky or Astroneer. This would give more purpose to being on the ground for those who are far from home, being able to setup and camp for scanning or mining or just repairs/replenish while away. IF THOSE THINGS were in the game then it would FEEL more sensible for me to be able to walk in out of a "Functionable" ship. But not ship interiors just for the sake of seeing the inside of my 1km (slight exaggerated distance) long Anaconda every time I want to take off.

[@Sylusssss]

It's already a chore enough to cross the landing pad to access the on foot mission board, why would you want to make it take even longer? Take fleet carriers for example, the only thing that is potentially worth your time disembarking on one is to trade at the bar, as pre upgraded gear cannot spawn there What in the black are you gonna do inside your ship?

[@sammasic5849]

@@Sylusssss or they can implement both options black scree load or free movement. Not hard, that way both parties gain.

[@popotofyn]

Bought the Python Mk2 and fell in love with it. From the sound to the sleekness to the hardpoints its a beast of a ship. That "Inhale" just before the roar of the boost as it slices through the asteroid field of the titans, baring its 4x large AX weapons upon the titans heart

[@OperatorWolfy]

Don't even bother buying any ARX. I literally just try to buy some just to get some stuff. They charged my card but never issued me the ARX stating there was an error. Pending reply from support but don't give a dime to them. If you are going to fix up your store, at least make sure you can actually do a transaction properly.

[@jebkerman7199]

I’m going to have to fit one of those new FSDs to my ship

[@cypher1018]

I got myself an SCO FSD for my 'vette last night, I got at least a whole light year's extra range over the Sirius FSD I engineered years ago, it may not sound like much, but when the jump range on your tank is abysmal to start with, you take all you can get, plus the ability to make supercruise trips way shorter is a massive plus, the cons don't really matter, those are easily mitigated.

[@Rigel_Chiokis]

The thing about increasing the price of cosmetics is this: increasing (in some cases doubling) prices can generate more revenue. But only if people continue to buy items at the higher prices! It will be interesting to see how this works out for them. The patch 18.04 discussion has some truly outstanding footage! I'm starting to think that Rheeny needs to be nominated for an Oscar in cinematography.

[@rarurorook4872]

If i was to play elite again i wish they would implement : More and more ships More content New things to explore On planet mining Better fps gameplay for odessy. Ai is horrible,feels like im playing star citizen. And finally a good ol rebalancing while reducing the horrible grind. Hope the engineering rework they say they are implementing will fix the balancing issue. Finally can we please get some sort of ship interiors. Doesnt need to be star citizen quality ones. Just let us walk into our ships before sitting on the damn chair.

[@ThisBeMayheM]

It's cheaper to buy the deluxe edition of Elite Dangerous + a Pre-Built ship, than it is to hop into Star Citizen. Long term players might forget the game isn't easy to just hop into and start, there's a lot of complexity to it. The Pre-Built options just offer an easier way for new players to get into the game, which is good for everyone. Frontier doesn't have the insane budget the triple AAA studios have. Great video!

[@lurakin88]

How does buyback work for pre built ships? Wouldn't want a new player with no knowledge of how to play jumping in with their mtx ship only to lose it and not be able to buy it back

[@Garryck-1]

@@lurakin88 - Buybacks for pre-built ships are free. If you swap out any of the pre-built module(s) for something else, your buyback cost is limited to *only* the non-pre-built module(s) you've added.

[@golem_videomaking]

oh, they didn't forget, they're just yelling it's "unfair" towards them that have spent (idk like 3-4h?) time to get the same ship, probably years ago lmao. others say that cos you have paid the game once they shouldn't even sell cosmetics... people are just mad for nothing all the time

[@blendpinexus1416]

and despite not having the budget of a aaa studio they have made something that far surpasses most modern aaa studio space ship games.

[@ThisBeMayheM]

@@blendpinexus1416 Appreciate all you guys, sometimes I get worried for the community but y'all restored my faith

[@piggerald2105]

I'd like to see arx rented warehouses in stations, so commanders can store their commodities rather than being dependant on the size of their cargo holds.

[@cold_ultra]

5:24 that corvette handles like a bicycle, remebers me to get back to engineering, but I guess I will wait for the balance changes

[@sidrat2009]

Ahh the nerfs. That without a lot of community noise, is going to take a very very long time based on history.

[@TheBuurPit]

🚴💨

[@user-wt5dx7ox9n]

I had gotten some midnight black paintjobs (for some ships i didnt even have yet) the past few years so those prices dont affect me, but i still hope they get a decent sale around black friday still

[@fredh8733]

im keeping my old FSD drives. i think sirius corp is going to come out with extra upgrades for those... i wonder if there will be 2 types of drives? SCO for local business like powerplay 2.0... and the updated FSD drives for looooong range exploration??? we will see

[@sidrat2009]

That's a really great idea that the FDEV developers probably had but didn't want to bring up for fear of being creative.

[@marcwolvertonphotography2423]

I would very much like to see the ability to scrap or recycle engineered modules; but I'd love to see an auction house for materials and engineered modules too; but it's PowerPlay restricted & make/model restricted. Grades 1, 2, & 3 are restricted to make, Grades 4 & 5 and Experimental are Make & Model restricted So I can get 6A Thrusters with Dirty Drive at Grade Three from a Dropship and put them on a Gunship; but when they go to Grade 4, they can only be used on the Dropship. Also, the auction houses for Imperial, Alliance & Federal Space are all different, in order to access all 3, it has to be on a Fleet Carrier or Jameson Memorial. I think that would keep things usable and make sense in-game.

[@dongiovenco]

yes add the scrapping and recycling method of engineered parts

[@MinistryOfMagic_DoM]

I do like the scrapping unused engineered modules for materials return idea. Havent had time to play 18.04 but curious about the Mk2 Python. If i buy early access is it a single ship and I buy a second from the in game shipyard or is it just unlocking it so I can buy as many as my heart desires in the shipyard?

[@driftnut666]

they have adopted the Star Citizen model, shame the ship it not explorable on foot and has a working interior like in Star citizen.

[@torquaymouse2236]

Nice!

[@Torrle]

I bought the new python and have no regrets! Also, the engineering scrapping idea sounds fantastic, even if you get maybe half of the mats back.

[@vonSchmettern]

Scapping sounds attractive, also for other modules that didn't prove quite as useful as imagined. Returning between half and a quarter of the materials involved would certainly help shorten the inevitable grind.

[@victoryeung2844]

Bought both regular and stellar, I just like to upgrade the regular bit by bit and it is satisfying. Always sold back the stellar one such that I can deploy it any time I want just feel so cheating and I mostly wont upgrade the stellar one for this purpose

[@grimstonenin]

looks great. Are you using any reshade or graphic mods to make it look like this?

[@matko99]

I think they said that they don't use reshade

[@Timberwolf69]

I don't think you need this for Elite to look good.

[@PDJazzHands]

Maybe just some colour grading in davinci or something

[@TheBuurPit]

No. We make it a policy here to use no graphics mods or video recolouring etc etc. What you see is 100% what the game is doing.

[@akheteru6525]

Monetization of short-term vs. long-term players is a fair point, tbh.

[@funnylumpy]

They could add ships from previous games that is not available. I would buy them to support the game. They could come as singles or bundles. There is many ways to earn money for the company without making it pay to win.

[@ScottishPhoenix]

Lots of Paint jobs have been removed as well!!!!

[@whizzdom6923]

At 12 euros a paint they can keep them

[@darthleader5806]

Powerplay 2.0, the new unannoucned feature for later in 2024 and the SCO drive might bring me back to Elite later this year :)

[@ZuluRomeo]

It's all good

[@chriswilliams868]

Base building and crafting would be nice additions to the game

[@chefnerd]

a scrapping mechanic? yes please!

[@Will_M600]

Im coming back to this game for the first time since 2016, what id like to see (from the perspective of a noob) is some more guidance in the game of where to go and what to be doing. Its very difficult to learn without asking other players right now.

[@TheBuurPit]

When it comes to engineering etc. at the very least check back later for today's video.

[@Odin314]

13:50 "As yet unannounced new feature"... wasn't this related to the ships? Wouldn't this be SCO? If they're dropping something even bigger and more meaningful that'd be fantastic!

[@trevoC132]

By the time ED gets ship interiors I'll be able to play it on a holodeck. I don't mind buying ships... I do it often for a lot more money with Star Citizen. I do however expect a higher quality of ship and interiors if I'm going to do so. Its too bad also, because ED is/was a lot of fun, especially in VR. Very deep map screen and trading system also. The biggest problem for me is no ship interiors and I really don't have much to do anymore after acquiring all the ships, most engineered after all these years. Without more immersion like exiting and entering full ships that are a little more detailed I can't see me returning.

[@sammasic5849]

Agreed, I'm in the same position, 7 k hrs on my end

[@palmironeira195]

The pyton MK II was the opportunity to bring ship interiors.

[@sidrat2009]

For me only, it's not about being able to walk around a ship. Walking from and to a ship because I can't teleport or wake up in a bed on a ship, is just a walking simulator precursor to the content I'm looking for in Elite Dangerous. I don't mind it in Star Citizen because it's a different game with a different premise. What I want from Elite is to experience a story. A personal story. I played the original and loved it despite my youth, I played Frontier: Elite 2 and I loved that because I remember the bulletin board and the mission givers and the moon mining and the combat without joysticks it was just great story telling. If there was a grind I didn't recognise it. The best grind is one you don't recognise because you're experiencing a story that has drawn you in and is rewarding you, advancing your abilities, knowledge & understanding of the lore surrounding you. A buyout with £100M reserve would see Elite back to its roots but with 21st Century story delivery. It doesn't need to be multiplayer or even co-op. Private hostable servers would be fine for those that want to partake in that kind of story. What all the space ship flying games are lacking is the hook of encouragement to start up the launcher - at least for me personally. I play with dual hotas and pedals. It's great. Not as convenient as someone who can play with a mouse and keyboard of course or those with a console controller - I've tried and I can't at the end we all get the same game and currently it's just not worth it. It's trying to be different things to different types of players and isn't as great as it should be if it could decide on one shameless identity.

[@henriksebring7633]

So the important question is... did the Python MK2 come with new unique engine sounds or is it the same as ye ol Python? I am a huge fan of Elite's audio in general and curious of how they handled the new ships...

[@JosephCarven]

I've bought Stellar Edition but I'm on expedition and don't have time or need to fly it.

[@LaVirek]

Maybe it will be good time to get back to Elite soon, but for now there is still helldivers 2 and upcoming Homeworld 3.

[@MrDionysos01]

I'm starting to come back often into the game, but for how long ? I'm starting to play with the power play too, "doing my part" for the faction that I support. Also, gaining reputation to buy later my corvette.

[@zapz0rd]

SCO is so fucking fun, I can't stop yeeting myself around systems

[@BreechBangClear]

I can get onboard with a scrapping mechanic, as long as it’s only available at an applicable engineer.

[@steammausss164]

The sco drive has better stats than a double engineered on tons stats but jump but still jump less far

[@gho5tspartan26yt]

2:29 how you do that flip?

[@johngardner3020]

SCO drives are interesting. I think its a mistake to have them superior in every way to the old drives though. Making a module that is so prevalent obsolete overnight seems like a ham fisted decision. I think there should be pros and cons so people think and deliberate over their options.

[@hood18ful]

i would pay a full price game as dlc for interiors

[@districtlulless4363]

I do like that "dead long gameplay" it adds reality to the game. Realistic scale. I do not hate the SCO Drive at all though. It is fun but most of all it follows story lore and progression that does add depth so I objectively like both gameplay loops.

[@Terrribletom]

I wasn’t gonna buy it but I think I’m changing my mind 🏴‍☠️

[@andrewjackson7379]

I'm more hopeful for Elite's future than I have been for years! Even seemingly simple things like the SCO drive are already showing the immense possibility for new gameplay vectors, and while I was concerned about pay2win creeping in, I think they've handled it as well as anyone possibly could; nothing that can be bought outclasses what a veteran can acheive in a fully engineered Adder. The future of the bubble is looking bright right now.

[@sidrat2009]

There has always been this possibility but it has taken far too long with far too little content of substance. Elite was about stories that players could indulge in. Currently there are too many NPC corps with forgettable characters and just a grind for the sake of grind while it could be so much more fulfilling.

[@timppaUT]

Yes. With Sco FSD I have learned to do noob-loops again! Thanks Fdevs!

[@blendpinexus1416]

and that veteran could easily use nuances to just play with a pay2win type player. i won't be that skilled but god it's fun.

[@astrayamatu]

as a deep space explorer i did not buy my self in to the new phython mkII, il just buy it when i get back to the bubble

[@Vanotter]

Soon we'll have two galaxy spanning sims to play. I hope they push each other.

[@Majima_Nowhere]

The P2 is fun! Mine's barely engineered but I see a lot of potential. If the next few ships are of this quality, I'll happily throw a few bucks at FDev for early access. I'm not, however, super happy with the move to make Sirius FSDs completely obsolete overnight. I said before that the SCO drives should either come in A rating OR be engineerable, not both. Now that they're both, there's zero reason to ever use a normal FSD. They're just clutter in the outfitting menu now, right with E rated hull refs and C rated internals.

[@paulkeith9680]

They are not obsolete. I don't understand why some people obsess over replacing every single drive they have overnight. I see no reason to- not all my ships need to travel very far and some rarely leave their hangars so I'm not going to spend a ridiculous amount of time and effort engineering 16 new drives. Maybe one or two ships will get it first, then others may get upgraded later. Some I won't need to. Nobody says it's necessary to "grind out the materials to engineer every ship again" as some seem to think.

[@Majima_Nowhere]

@@paulkeith9680 Right, on existing ships sure. I don't plan to replace all 45 of my ships' drives either. But when building a new ship, why would you pick the non-SCO drive?

[@JoelHatmaker]

What about the other ships they said were comin? I want a new exploration ship

[@Garryck-1]

Three more new ships by the end of the year, they've said. Since we're already close to halfway through the year, they're not far off.

[@valorin5762]

While I don't like artificially holding back content that's ready to release to make some cash from it, I don't really care about the rest. I've been charged two times after purchasing the main game back then in about 10 years of constant updates. We got a _lot_ for free and I think many people just forget that or are more comfortable with complaining. At the moment I think, someone told Frontier to monetise their only live-service game more effectively, and I also think it's either that or Elite going into stasis. So yeah, I rather take store price increases and gameplay stuff for sale over Elite being forgotten.

[@myaantares4036]

They didn't just increase the Arx cost per item, they devalued the Arx we already had in our wallets. Cosmetics in game should be cheaper, not more expensive. If Fdev had any sense, they'd realize this is about volume and mass sales. They need to incentivize buy ins, not make them even less tempting. Personally I'm resolved to not play Elite again until the Python Mk II becomes available for credits in game. Tread carefully, Fdev.

[@philbrown8181]

Five and a half years is way too long a wait for a new ship in a game based on said ships.

[@AndyFirebladeMuza]

@TheBuurPit what are your thought on Lifetime Expansion Pass owners? Should they be getting the purchasable ships given to them? I feel LEP owners have been completely forgotten about.

[@TheBuurPit]

No (and I'm one of them). As far as I'm concerned the LEP refers to paid for expansions to the game. So Horizons, Odyssey thus far and definitely not items that are available on the Arx store. Totally different thing imho. O7

[@bigbangerz5856]

I like the sound of the SCO and Python changes, I think Frontier over did it with the Arx but Im not going to lose sleep over it lots of other games do it too. However Odyssey on foot content remains completely blocked off to me as a VR user and exploration gameplay whilst ok for new players remains shallow low low for experienced players. Scrapping is a good idea there is no good reason not to have it is my view.

[@heathsaunders7426]

Nearly saved up enough Arx for......nothing now.

[@konigfisch6327]

i just logged into the game from like a year ago and i was wondering why theres none of the big content creators already explaining this and tbh im still a little confused

[@lolishocks8097]

Are custom, unique paintjobs a thing? Ship kits? Selling advertisements on those giant holographic billboards? More better merchandise? Ammo refills for $ 100😧? New Expansion? If someone wanted to throw more money at Frontier, there isn't a whole lot of options, other than cosmetics and extra accounts.

[@Mooncake_1]

This game just required a live economy. Let players sell and buy stuff (including ships) from each other. Would also be nice to increase the insurance fee, 5% is ridiculous. Commanders have tons of credits, and basically nowhere to spend it.

[@seanmcconkey72]

Speak for yourself.

[@WOOOOTAFAKKK]

First new ship in 6 years and they copy paste interior of python mk1 sad.

[@AndyFirebladeMuza]

I am very on the fence regards buying ships for ARX. Having said that, the Python MKII is a fantastic ship and well worth the money in my opinion. If this is the future of ARX purchases then I am on board. I have zero interest in the pre built ships at the moment. I also hope they do something with earning ARX, especially the 400 limit for those who have zero interest in the Titans.

[@DaN3xtSlimShady]

Some of the flying in this video was truly concerning

[@user-uo9xo5xn4j]

Need to bring all this ti console

[@verduoh]

As a long time player, I've already got 40 ships. one of each of the 37, plus an extra one of the big three. Why would I care about this? I don't

[@TakaChan569]

WoW i haven't been keeping up with ED, so i had no idea you could spend real cash on ships now...i may just stop my redownload of the game lol. I guess they looked at Star Citizen and said hey we can do it too, but forgot to steal some of the things that players really want lol.

[@Neo-vz8nh]

They could just add the SCO ability to every FSD drive, but then we wouldn't have to drive more... Also the game has now many obsolete modules, why?

[@sidrat2009]

Same reason there are many engineering options that no one would ever consider using for practical purposes.

[@user-tr6fw8yo2t]

Starfield being such a dud and Helldivers being so big is a HUGE opportunity to implement some likeness to what works and updates to the gameplay loop.

[@kitet76]

Any non-A-rated SCO FSDs are potentially bugged as their stats are all over the place, e.g. B-rated is not heavier and not any more durable than A-rated, D-rated is the same as B-rated only lighter, making the latter useless straight away, and the C-rated, that was in the game since 2 weeks, should have the same stats as non-SCO C-rated FSD but added overdrive and 0.2 or around max-fuel-per-jump added, but it's nowhere resembling the Sirius module.

[@Torrigwynt101]

I wonder if console will receive any additional ways to earn arx in game? I doubt it as that would require Dev effort to an unsupported game. If 4.0 gets a price increase but also additional ways to earn to compensate that increase, that's ok (I think). But if console only has a price increase, and with it still being sold as a live service game on Xbox, that's really quite unfair of them.

[@PopcornH3]

this game died with me when any progression on story was locked behind updates and not actual exploration or something a commander or group of commanders does.

[@jericslater889]

I love this game but FDEV dry it out. Nothing new for years. I HOPE they really want to make ED great again. I will play and i already have over 1.000 hours into the game. I really hope they finally realize, that ED have extreme high potential.

[@timewaster504]

I'm waiting for them to make Engineering more assessable before I get back into the game.

[@agentmith]

I honestly had more fun getting engineering and guardian gear going than anything else in the game. It was one of the only times the game had an actual long-term goal with a finish line (and probably the only definite gameplay goal involving exploring), and varied gameplay mechanics required, not just combat which is my least favorite part of the game.

[@SpiritofLiberty1175]

@@agentmith I don't have a problem with the grind of getting mats, I have a problem with being bored out of my mind while doing it. might be cool the first couple of times you get a gaurdian blueprint for instance, but by the 5th or 6th time its about as fun as watching paint peel. And the guardian stuff is some of the easier ones to get. I don't mind filler if the filler is enjoyable and not the same rinse and repeat completely uni-mmersive system we've got now.