Panasonic S1R First Impressions in Barcelona

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

You guys are rocking it! I love your energy. You should walk Barcelona's old city at midnight the next time you're there, one of my favourite activities.

[@MrPhotoBlitz]

This is the best Panasonic Barcelona video in terms of the video and stills that I have seen so far including Dpreview, Cinema5D and Cameralabs.

[@TL-vt8uk]

These will be cameras of the year for sure; I am looking forward to testing out an S1R!!!

[@Nat.ImagesLarge.F.Photographer]

Gorgeous and in the right size, not as small as Nikon, Sony and Fuji,better grip and built well, we see that it is solid!

[@KlausBioMadsen]

But does the autofocus detect goats as well? 95 % of my photography is goat-centric photography so if it doesn't it's a deal breaker for me.

[@kian8382]

AI AF is just a fancy name for an algorithm that contains the database of what to detect and focus on. It may or may not work for goats, but I don't believe at this time having a camera that claims AI AF will definitely warrant the best AF. Like I don't believe for a second the OMD EM1X can out-performance a D5 just because the algorithm in D5 wasn't named "AI".

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Goats are awesome. But, currently unsupported with the AI mode. Maybe they will be added one day depending on goat denand.

[@RJPhotographics]

Do you have an online portfolio of your goats? :D

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

I'm from Germany but I've heard everybody is focusing on a goat on Sunday. Seems to be easy, so no need for AI in this case.

[@milansajan1001]

@@kian8382 👍🏻

[@TheFilmmakersWorkshop]

Great video. Fun...Really lovely use of slow motion and all the information about the S1R, which I, as a GH5 user am veeeerrry interested in. Well done TCS Team

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

Starting the AI-AF with humans, cats, dogs and birds seems to be a much better choice than cars, planes and trains.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

We agree.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

Unless you want the camera before 2050...

[@gregm6894]

Unless you're a professional sports/wildlife photographer. Have you seen the videos of the Olympus E-M1X tracking motorcycle racers or racing cars? Pretty impressive, not to mention the bird-in-flight tracking. Right now I've only seen the new Panasonic focusing on a static goose.

[@ryanreyes5440]

Why didnt they put phase detection tho? Having a fully articulating screen would have been the cherry on top. No AF on slow mo videos.

[@milansajan1001]

@@ryanreyes5440 👍🏻

[@projecthydra507]

Colour rendition from the camera looks good. But curious on the dynamic range

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

We can't process the raws yet. But, we have high expectations for it.

[@redwolf_media]

Looks like a really solid cameras, looking forward to test it out, great video, cheers!

[@Jona]

The moment you hold the camera from the flipped out screen... my heart shheeshhh

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Me too. But, it's super sturdy.

[@Vormulac1]

That's how they marketed the flip out screen back when the Pentax K-1 came out - freaky!

[@ookiemand]

I still prefer the vari angle (flippy screen).

[@clifftotten7609]

Nice Job. Very nice - One question, does the S1 have the option to pull pack on the noise reduction like the GH5/GH5-S? (NR +/-) On my GH5 I pull back all the NR because post NR is more surgical and accurate than real-time, in-camera NR. Thanks!

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Good question. We didn't check that. But, we will find out.

[@MichaelLaing71]

I think Panasonic have done quite a lot of things right with this camera. I like a larger body (I wish Nikon had chosen a larger body for the Z7) and they have a lot of interesting features, though some of them are more hype than really practical. The elephants in the room is the AF, which everyone seems to be worried about and the price of the lenses, which are just silly.

[@jan-hendrikbussmann4644]

And once again a very nice intro. Like your music choices!

[@ahmonon4352]

Very very mature and will thought design. I'm sure it has excellent image quality, only concern is AF

[@jordanlin4437]

Yes! I would love to see some AF tests out there, and if the face-tracking ability is at least somewhat on-par with the Canon, this (the S1, not the S1R) is clearly the best mirrorless full-frame camera that one can get for hybrid shooting.

[@ahmonon4352]

Tough to beat Sony though, Don't forget their native lens lineup

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

@@jordanlin4437 Do you imagine Nikon could improve their AF and other features through firmware? I'm intrigued by their ProRes RAW offering, and the idea that they have no video camera product line they need to worry about cannibalizing, but this seems like such a complete package.

[@jordanlin4437]

@@sarfaraz.hosseini I think it is definitely possible that they can improve the auto focus, but I think they will probably leave it to the Z6 or Z7 mark ii's so they have something to advertise about. I don't know, but it does look really interesting.

[@jordanlin4437]

@@ahmonon4352 That's true. I own a Canon 80D and recently compared it to my friend's A7M3, and I couldn't tell a difference from their auto focus. Canon is loosing their magic of superiority in auto focus and I am definitely going to switch to something better in a year or two.

[@omykola]

video from S1 looks great, colour and stabilization is excellent as well. Any information on pricing and release date?

[@manilamartin1001]

What a beautiful place. Nice video. I'm waiting with credit card at hand.

[@wilbuzllf5057]

Thanks guys, I really enjoy your reviews/previews and tests. Size have been a small concern for me with the S series but you mentioned they felt good walking around with even for a day. How do you experience the AF? Would you say it's a possible wild life camera? IF there were to come lenses for it? /Rasmus

[@bigdhav]

The Fuji GFX/hasselblad X1D as are the highest resolution mirrorless cameras. Not the S1R.

[@asebaninja]

Looking forward to seeing where panasonic goes with this, interesting times in the camera market, it definitely feels like M43 is dead now though.

[@KSCuberOfficial]

Game changer like damn. Might finally replace my old Canon 1Ds Mark II/5Dc instead of staying in Canon with the R. Sensor shift stabilization sounds great. Now we just need a solid EF to L mount adapter with good AF.

[@dsimon9s29]

thank you for posting.

[@brivnii]

Great review!!!!

[@andreashoherz2055]

Looks impressive!

[@emmerichhameinen9770]

I have a feeling next reviews will be 'we're sponsored so, ain't gonna say anything bad about this' type of reviews God.. i miss chris and jordan when they were honest about things.

[@marvelousdecay]

very curious to see wether 4k video is utilising the full sensor or not

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

There's a slight crop in the S1R (1.1×) But, the more video optimized S1 has full sensor video readout.

[@marvelousdecay]

@@TheCameraStoreTV Perfect thanks! I was expecting a bigger crop for the S1R so that's already a plus!

[@teohyc]

@@TheCameraStoreTV I read that there's a 1.5 crop for the S1?

[@Gynra]

@@teohyc There is when shooting 4K at 60 fps, but not at 30 fps

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Only in 4K 60p. But if you lower to 30p or less, you get full sensor readout.

[@manphoto1972]

Huge ! So huge with a "just" 50 mm 1.4 !

[@martinisbutik]

5:08 Remember when 50 mm lenses were nifty? (yes yes, I know, high res sensors demand lots of glass)

[@errymoestafa3124]

Music 0:01-0:37 ?

[@dhuwdhuwdhuw]

Here we can see the future Leica mirrorless camera.

[@57thStIncident]

Of course, most Leicas are already mirrorless and have been for the better part of a century...

[@dhuwdhuwdhuw]

@@57thStIncident joke----->> almost everyone...,.............. || you

[@hidekigomi]

Great job, the busy travel period for you guys. I saw comments how ugly it is, well I find it more attractive than Panasonic M43 models?187MP with pixel shift, the res isn’t everything but wow

[@DynamicLearning4u]

Hi, was this shot w the GH5s 4K 60p? Looks good?

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

We shot it with the new S1 at 4K 30 with occasional 4K 60 shots.

[@DynamicLearning4u]

@@TheCameraStoreTV Thanks for the reply. Nice FF footage :)

[@ThePhotographyHobbyist]

Too bad they couldn't have kept it the size of a GH5. The new S1 is a pretty big camera/lens combo. Looks good though. I wish they had included phase detect AF. I assume the camera will be able to support CFexpress in the future, like Nikon will.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

To fit the full frame sensor, IBIS, a juicy battery to support the processing power, 2 card slots and the new mount, with weather sealing, its currently just not possible for it to be smaller. But, in all honesty it feels like a DSLR sized camera that is sturdy and comfotable. We didn't mind the size nearly as much as we expected.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Yes it will support CFexpress through a future free firmware update.

[@ThePhotographyHobbyist]

@@TheCameraStoreTV Good point about the size reasons. I know Nikon got knocked for the single card slot (Canon too) and I would have preferred Nikon made the Z a little bigger and added two card slots and maybe a larger battery (but I have no complaints about the battery life as it is).

[@ronaldmontilla6239]

Finally a camera company that listens to the consumers.

[@FreshYoungLeaves]

L mount lens available many lens from leica,

[@Gynra]

Well, 7 actually, starting at £3,700.

[@FreshYoungLeaves]

@@Gynra many others leica lens work with leica adapter . It will affect auto focus performance

[@mcrazza]

2:39 I'm speechless!

[@gsmithphotography]

If it were the size of the G9 I might be interested. I think it is a pity it is so BIG!

[@RealStevenStifler]

Interesting camera, but I read how much it will cost and I passed out 😳 kind of expensive

[@Gs-rg2vo]

is it better than x1d by hasselblad ?

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

In many ways I'd say yes. But, until we have final firmware and raw support we can't properly compare image quality.

[@VoidedTea]

First time I actually liked the colors from Panasonic camera. But I think it puts another nail in the coffin of “mirrorless are smaller than DSLR” belief.

[@soundknight]

Give me a proper update to my GX8 please. GX9 too small, shitty EVF G9 awesome but not a box shape

[@PanaMadalin]

Canons 5ds and 5dr are the highest megapixels full frame sensors with 50 👏

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

The S1R is the highest resolution for a full-frame *mirrorless camera.

[@geopapa80]

Holding the camera from the flippy screen @4:11 lol

[@dob795]

are they going to dump m43 system?

[@musicdefinesgravity]

probably not, their m43 cameras are still used by many people for video

[@juanquispe3494]

No. Dumping m43 will be caused by bad m43 sales in the future, not the arrival of these full frame cameras.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

No they'll keep it going too.

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

Why should they? Most people, I know don't want to carry around such a big camera and would buy a smaller camera anyway. There is a market for big high end cameras and there is a lot revenue per camera in it but the larger number goes to smaller cameras. Also, you don't buy such a camera with on kit lens and a system with two or more lenses can be easily above 5000$.

[@krishartsphotography5643]

Nice & Thanks :)

[@2012starman]

Is it me or do the image stills look soft??

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Did you watch the episode in 4k or a lower res option?

[@Durio_zibethinus]

I'm curious about their focusing system. Their dfd in m43 isn't the best and I hope they will change that. 4:10 *screaming internally 😂

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

It seems to be improved overall. We will throughly test once it has final firmware.

[@Durio_zibethinus]

@@TheCameraStoreTV thank you! Indoor sport or night wildlife would be great for testing their tracking capability.

[@JessDemant]

The Panasonic S1 & S1R seems a little too big and heavy for my taste, so I stay with my Sony equipment, but in any case some interesting cameras from Panasonic that seem much more exciting than those from Canon and Nikon!

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Stick with what works for you and what you shoot. But, advancements are good for everyone as they continue to raise the bar.

[@chuckmoser9662]

The S1R with a lens, pushing $6000.00 US. Nahhhh.

[@kennethwilliamsinc]

Yea, even if you go with L mount Sigma glass, you're still pushing over $4k. The body is about $500 too expensive.

[@saiiiiiii1]

0:59 definitely needs stabilization. haha

[@traintrambus]

Great video and Panasonic must be worrisome to Nikon, Sony, Canon et al. Panasonic menus are good (unlike Sony) and it looks a good offering.

[@soundknight]

True, best menus in the market

[@THEISAAC1593]

I'll stick to my m43 more selection of lenses

[@matthewkaltenborn4621]

bit worried about the video, I can see a lot of wobble on the corners of the frame from the stabiliser, it looks very similar to the z6's video, which is a big shame compared to the gh5.

[@NSAwatchesME]

its not the highest resolution mirrorless camera hasselblad ...

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

He meant *mirrorless full-frame camera. Hasselblad is medium format.

[@milansajan1001]

👍🏻

[@FKfilmphotography]

Seems too big and bulky. Will stick with my big fat 5dsr

[@thegamechanger3317]

S1 R is not the highest fullframe resolution on the market The fact it's canon 5ds/R

[@russhawker1718]

They did qualify that with highest res full frame mirrorless

[@thegamechanger3317]

@@russhawker1718 quoted " which is currently the highest resolution fullframe sensor" 0:52

[@russhawker1718]

@@thegamechanger3317 check the text they put on the screen at the same time. They must have realised what they said later.

[@TripleKOShorts]

$5K CAD body only for the S1R with CDAF...It will punish you in low light!

[@soundknight]

Awesome I'll just sell my M43 so I can lug this around and access 10,000$ leica lenses. Not. Still, good luck to them.

[@brivnii]

...does anyone have an extra 7k I can have?

[@kanehi]

Panasonic went big while most makers are making theirs smaller.

[@drpork1360]

4:08 just stop 🙄

[@brianwickliffe73]

I hope no one buys the 50mm 1.4 lens. We the consumers set the price by buying them. I would love to see the lens go down in price because their is no market for it. Sadly, I think people will find an excuse to buy it, I just hope it isn't that many people. I don't want any other camera manufacturers getting any ideas.

[@dsdave07]

Megapixel file? Uh . . . . .

[@oleggritsev]

Panasonic new firmware should support 8K 30P. and interesting to check dynamic range and picture quality. For me for now NIKON best camera. I will wait full sale release from Panasonic. should be great camera.

[@angelisone]

Totally NOT compatible with 1/2 cropped lenses made for 4/3 and m4/3. Now we have two Japaneses lenses made for APS MFC. Japan Zeiss AF for Sony Japan Leica AF for this And one Japanese lenses made for my Chinese $40,000.00 camera.

[@milansajan1001]

Y Nø 1 is †alking aboü† 👁️ aü†o Focüs in Panasoni¢.!?

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Stay tuned. I know that we will have lots to talk about in terms of autofocus in our full review.

[@milansajan1001]

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[@notorious888]

No fully articulating screen = Fail

[@sebastiaanvanwater]

Looks deserted for Barcelona.

[@punkrachmaninoff]

you're thinking now you are having fun - wait until you fly home to cow-town and see the bill for those lame cameras in canadian dollars!?!

[@sizzlemann]

Too big and heavy for travelers, no articulating flip screen for vloggers, an autofocus no one can trust, real pros already have real pro cameras with tons of great glass, so who is this camera for exactly? Sounds like the S1 and S1R could stumble coming out of the gate.

[@THEISAAC1593]

Too pricey

[@weareyesyesyes]

easy pass.

[@soundknight]

WTF don't they make pepper focus on MFT? Annoying. Love my PL 15 f1.7, 25 f1.4 and 42.5mm f1.7 but not one of them has a decent electronic focus mechanism. Considering they are on average more expensive than fujifilm and Olympus lenses which have great electronic focus mechanisms this is incredibly annoying. Suppose I should just buy Olympus pro lenses instead...

[@tresderan10]

i am little disappointed i don't see a camera without compromises, but i see i camera recently borne with a lot of things to learn and a too much high price. i guess it will be a flop unfortunally, nikon sony canon are more intresting.. cause i don't really see an improvement in the image quality instead a level down from competition. Panasonic had the chance to bump up spechs and open a new market by implementing the 6k for example but they have lost the chance,

[@jeromemisa6642]

Thats huge😅... the logic of Mirrorless Camera is gone,LOL

[@mavfan1]

Jerome Misa huh? It’s better than DSLRs in many ways.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

There are so many more benefits to mirrorless than compactness. Better optics, exposure preview, EVF for video etc.

[@Lofote]

@@TheCameraStoreTV ...yeah and get rid of a flapping Mirror that can be easily misadjusted and so ruin both autofocus and Manual Focus, many Forget that ;)… Plus silent Shooting capabilities, etc.

[@wilbuzllf5057]

The logic of mirrorless being only to make it small is a total missunderstanding, often by people who don't see the other benefits. Mirrorless is the future, wether or not the size is large or small. I haven't used DSLR's since 2012, back at the days when EVF's were quite small and low resolution but even then I much prefered the EVF and silent operation without the mirror. EVF's give so much more information as well. Thinking that mirrorless must be small is simply, wrong. /Rasmus

[@schumif1champ]

5dsr has a higher megapixel so it’s not the highest on the market.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Dave meant to say "the highest resolution full-frame mirrorless camera" that's why we added text over the frame.

[@andrew1977uk]

He did say on a full frame mirrorless

[@dalibormrkic7808]

First!

[@dob795]

you deserve a medal 😉

[@mavfan1]

First to give a thumbs down to the “first” comment.

[@Makta972]

Probably the ugliest mirorless so far..

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

I like this design over the previous Lumix cameras. But, Fuji still has my heart in terms of overall body esthetics.

[@russhawker1718]

Panasonic have never been interested in making good looking cameras. They leave that to Olympus and Fuji