The Two Sides of Studio MAPPA | Anime Studio Spotlight

[@theLikou1]

The Maruyama curse. He always try to create something special to see it turned on a money devouring monster.

[@betuna9487]

Damn that was...

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

How ironic that Madhouse produce the Anime Monster and that Anime was the embodiment of higher ranks

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

But somehow some of his friends like the Founder of Kyoto was so friendly and good at treating employee

[@catfan913]

this is literally the curse of capitalism, where artists will never be able to make art for its own sake

[@zestobrandino]

embodiment of suffering from success

[@weeb2606]

I got downvoted hard on Reddit for saying the stuff you said I said “there’s lots of young talented webgen animators and it’s because the industry is lacking of animators to the point they hire people in twitter, it’s good for them the animators in social media but it’s not good for the industry. Black clover biggest fight a month ago had lots of first timers they’re all talented but I don’t think it’s a good idea for first timers to animate the biggest fights, shows how understaffed they are and the industry.”

[@TheCanipaEffect]

It's really hard because in one way it is exciting that more people are having the chance to work in anime. The issue is that the circumstances and the pay isn't at all what they deserve.

[@raawesome3851]

@@TheCanipaEffect yeah. I'd wait months without anime or amazing animation if it meant that the people were both getting the sleep and the money they deserved.

[@indianflippingart9593]

True. That's one of the reason why most people don't do 2D animations...people.settle for being an illustrator instead

[@Vexies]

@@indianflippingart9593 Wait could you tell me the difference?

[@indianflippingart9593]

@@Vexies see. If someone is a good illustrator...it does not mean he or she will be a good animator. See an animator needs to be very very quick and very accurate with his lime work. Which the illustrators are not. Cause an illustrator has to focus a lot more in the coloring, lighting aspect of his art. Cause he is trying to.put hi entire sould in one frame. But am animator has to learn the way the app and the frames work. Like how much difference should be between the two artworks ( line work) if the frame rate is 6 or 8 or 12 or 24. And trust me it's really difficult to get to learn that thing. Cause sometimes you'd make way less frames...or sometimes the difference might get too much or too less. So it sucks. That's why every scene is corrected like 3 times or so. Me personally want to be an animator as well. I'm working on it for like 5 months now. It's like 10 times more exhausting than being an illustrator. I even thought of settling for being just an illustrator and grow in that field for once. But you know whenever I see these anime fights I find motivation to work on the animation aspect more. I'm a decent illustrator but I was a noob when I entered the animation field. It's just a completely different realm. If you can draw perfectly and quickly them you might makes things easier, otherwise it's a pain.

[@superjboy16]

Huge company buys creative studio, and slowly loses its staff. Now where have I seen this before?

[@Manchesterunited00]

😡🏠

[@Nakazawaaa]

😡🏠

[@askyourmama5862]

Smosh, Rareware, Madhouse and so many others

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

How Ironic that Mappa was founded by Madhouse director and most of its worker is from the Madhouse and also the animation artstyle was same with Madhouse

[@Bravo5511s4k]

@@jadeorbigoso5212 madhouse producer not director.

[@opman6242]

If there's one thing I've learned from MAPPA's huge explosion of popularity last year, is how terrible the working conditions not only for the studio but also Japan as whole. And it's good to know that majority of the Anime Community are slowly realising it. It's kinda disappointing to see the current state of the studio. I was thinking that they could be a "replacement" now that madhouse isn't at their best anymore. I hope they do something about it (which would be a miracle if it happen) because I'm starting to like the studio now.

[@zackrose6261]

America also has some really shit working conditions as well for people who get paid around minimum wage and possibly work more hours then people in the anime industry cause they have to take multiple jobs to survive. cx

[@opman6242]

@@zackrose6261 that’s also true, in general animators didn’t get enough love and recognition that they deserve. Which is why it’s good to know that this MAPPA situation is starting to spark awareness of the conditions of these people (and hopefully not just in Japan). I mean people are starting to be vocal and appreciative on them.

[@zackrose6261]

@@opman6242 It's been a known fucking situation for a while. people just know that we can't do anything about it what so ever. Especially americans, american's won't do shit about it since america runs on the fact that the poor need TWO jobs to live.

[@matthewkrumlauf9990]

It is important to talk about how companies treat their staff. Thank you for doing this, and I hope that you do not get too many people hating on the video for discussing this difficult topic.

[@realstage1925]

Greedy people don't exist in the field of animation production companies. There are just presidents who are desperately trying to keep the company from going bankrupt by increasing workloads so that they can pay their employees so that they don't end up in the red. The greedy people are among the people at companies that cut their animation production budgets to the limit and make money from distribution, merchandise, and related products. There is no smell of money in the animation production field, so the greedy people stay away from the field and just use people.

[@juangal7569]

They better not, it's the truth

[@noel-ts3jr]

I genuinely like the new criticism the anime industry is receiving as it widens. Sure, it may take away some of the magic: the reason people look at anime for escape from a very unfair world. But to me this is positive, we're less disconnected with the product we love so much. We know how much it means, we may even know people who work in it and suffer because of the way their art is used for profit and robbed of its value. I think this is positive, because even if the landscape is bleak we are able to create a little safety net for those we care about be it through vocal support or donations. I want this little ripple to become a wave of real change.

[@TheCanipaEffect]

I think it's important as well. So much early coverage of anime was about responding to what was being made, but we need to understand where it comes from as well. The good and the bad. Anime is the home to the greatest artists in the entire world. Hopefully they can work in the conditions they deserve.

[@noel-ts3jr]

@@TheCanipaEffect wise words! what you're doing is super important, keep it up because the anime community has never made me prouder

[@irighterotica]

You make a fantastic point. Those who produce everything-not only anime, but our clothes, food, etc.-work behind closed doors and shuttered windows, out of the public's eye. Most of us don't buy our veggies straight from the farmer or anything, we go to the store and take it off a shelf right? So it's sometimes easy to forget people put hours, days, perhaps weeks of labor into this or that and see the product as something apart from them, strange as that may sound (though perhaps not to anyone familiar with Marxist thought). It sounds corny, but giving a damn could, can, and did make a difference

[@noel-ts3jr]

@@irighterotica that's right! The biggest trap one can fall into is cynicism, believing that there's no point in even talking about this because it's omnipresent. I feel much more motivated to help make a change now that I can believe in the anime community. Isn't that how things improve? I think the animator dormitory initiative is still around and taking donations ;) btw

[@Luke-qi6pf]

This comment and these replies, they made my heart feel a little bit warm 🖤

[@TropicaIJay]

All in all, if mappa wants to stick around and makes eye pleasing projects then they simply need to slow down the amount of anime they do.

[@theLikou1]

The video already gave an answer for how they will keep doing it: by hiring people from other countries. They will not slow down and many directors will be burned out and go to other studios eventually.

[@TropicaIJay]

@@theLikou1 😔

[@Manchesterunited00]

@@theLikou1 then would titles like JJK and csm be sold to other anime studios?, cause i think that’s what happened with madhouse on opm that soon went to J.C Staff

[@theLikou1]

@@Manchesterunited00 It fully depends on the production committee. If they want the product out soon or good animation is up to them. Mappa can deliver good products in tight schedules, the reason OPM went to another studio was because they didn't accept the tight schedule and the director was making other series (Boogiepop Phantom)

[@raawesome3851]

They are. They did 9 shows in 2020... And they are slowing down for 2021. So far, Mappa is doing only 4 major shows, as well as JJK zero. They aren't killing their staff as much, after 2020.

[@michaelcorleone7439]

Been waiting years for the "Pluto" anime that Masao Maruyama wanted to make and has seemingly been in production for awhile (possibly cancelled). I need that shit

[@SatimoDZN]

Masao maruyama has left mappa tho

[@michaelcorleone7439]

@@SatimoDZN I should have mentioned this but this became a thing after he left Mappa and made M2. The video just reminded me of it and I'm really hoping for some kind of news on its production sometime soon :)

[@yashsolanki589]

Me too. That's been in production for about 2 years. MAL has listed it being 8 episode show and I'm kind of worried because adapting Urasawa in such a short time frame is adapting very difficult, unless it is one hour episodes . Pluto is one of my favorite manga and really want it to be brought to screen. Last I checked, it was slated for a release in 2021 but the pandemic hugely effected the production.

[@askyourmama5862]

@@yashsolanki589 Pluto is my favourite manga I heard Maruyama making it an international production in Studio M2 with a lot of time and extremely high Production value (obviously if it's not cancelled)

[@theLikou1]

I really find it hard that the project is cancelled, it's a passion project for one of the greatest names in the anime industry. But they are taking their time with it, and that's good.

[@JoelBurger]

Really glad that you brought up the rise in freelancing work contracted through social media. Think that's only going to become more and more of a factor as time goes on, may even warrant its own separate discussion someday. Especially since, if the response to somebody saying "anime would die if Twitter shut down" on Twitter is anything to go by, people are woefully ignorant about how integral those freelancers have become. Also Punch Line is indeed amazing. I really hope Too Kyo gives Uchikoshi an opportunity to work on another anime. I mean, Kodaka already got his with Akudama Drive, so why not?

[@DCG909]

If twitter dies there will be another platform where people will flock to. Just as when studios get bought up and start to lose their way.

[@gamingrex2930]

Finally someone who realises the exorbitant amount of freelance work anime studios are using. At this rate i am nervous for the future of the industry, once freelancers get better pay (i.e china of all places), what will happen to japan?

[@PapaNierForReplicant]

I'd absolutely LOVE another Uchikoshi works, big fan of his. Isn't he working on a few projects right now, though?

[@ProjektTaku]

@@DCG909 yeah, like newgrounds when its bought by disney.

[@asimmabsout2886]

Can we get an anime spotlight on Kyoto Animation? Lovely vid btw

[@HobbiesChannel]

+1

[@oh2075]

+69

[@professionalairhead5642]

+∞

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

Yeah

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

They treat their employees so much better

[@laughingbob5786]

MAPPA is the literal translation of "suffering from success" you would say that for a lot of anime studios in general. Demand is so high right now producers would capitalize as much as they can overworking their staff. Its sad. Now im having thoughts being a full blown animator.

[@destiny_ultimatedork675]

That's the JAPANESE animation industry. If you're looking for something easier just become a freelancer or try not to work at someplace like Disney where they won't give you much creative freedom

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

@@destiny_ultimatedork675 or work at Kyoto studios

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

@@destiny_ultimatedork675 you will literally see the creativity of their work

[@jxbuyo]

I'm pretty sure that's the animation industry in general 😐

[@laughingbob5786]

@@destiny_ultimatedork675 I'm a freelancer and i can agree to that statement. There's a lot of freedom in your work but there are instances you're held back with what the client wants and I feel for the Japanese in a lot of ways.

[@Eterrath]

Seeing a MAPPA video, I also thought it was just going to be gushing about Jujutsu Kaisen for the whole length. But you've taken a big step in trying to educate the anime fans and it's also apparent from the title of the video. Thank you for putting time and effort to present accurate information with good humor. You're making anitube worth it

[@MrEdit-ic7th]

Gotta say, AOT: Final Season was a real eye opener for me. I still loved the season, but it made me realize how fucked the anime industry can be. You'll find greedy executives and overworked employees in every major business, but the anime industry seems to take it to a whole new level. To the point where I'm genuinely nervous whether or not the entire industry is just going to explode in on itself with the talent/work not being there to hold up all these new projects. Add on top of that the fact that Japan can be very narrow minded and stubborn when it comes to many practices, which is just another layer that'll keep the country's many businesses trapped in this destructive cycle.

[@jxbuyo]

Just a matter of time till Mappa burns out like what Madhouse did to their animators, ironic enough most of Madhouses Talented staff went to Mappa 💀

[@Manchesterunited00]

I guess it’s time for the animators to move to maruyama’s new studio, studio M2

[@apemayor3046]

@@Manchesterunited00 And then on to whatever new studio Maruyama makes after that one stops being a place for passion projects.

[@Manchesterunited00]

@@apemayor3046 or maybe maruyama should just stop with these anime studios and just move onto a different career though maruyama may be too old by then.

[@raawesome3851]

@@Manchesterunited00 maruyama will retire when he dies. Hell, his spirit will probably still be making another studio as a ghost.

[@soumyakantigiri]

@@raawesome3851 Wow, after reading everything and reseraching I realised. The fictional character in Shirobako, president of Mushashino Animation is modelled after him.

[@1_MANIIii]

Sad how much there staff is overworked but let’s give the animators thanks for putting out great pieces of art (edit: wow 1k never seen that before😂 appreciate it😅)

[@JoelBurger]

Probably should be the other way around. We should applaud the animators for their efforts, but we should never forget the human cost and exploitation that goes into that.

[@1_MANIIii]

@@JoelBurger most definitely. just saying that especially for attack on titan people where going after the animators instead of the heads of mappa, and that seemed backwards to me, so I’m saying instead of just giving blind praise to the company, that praise should go the to directors and animators instead.

[@foxinaround1220]

True i wish them the best , but u know .... Mappa is not the only overworked studio

[@Karma-pq9fi]

I mean a lot of studios are overworked Japan definitely cares more about the result.

[@1_MANIIii]

@@foxinaround1220 that’s very true aswell this is sadly where the anime industry is goin because it’s mainstream

[@leafbladie]

I love so much of their anime, but yeah, there’s a lot of abuse of their staff

[@gilgameshcaster8996]

Madhouse, WIT, and cloverworks

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

@@gilgameshcaster8996 WIT and IG Production are same studios

[@gilgameshcaster8996]

@@jadeorbigoso5212 wit studio is just a branch of ig prodution. They are not the same but wit is under ig

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

@@gilgameshcaster8996 oh yeah they are just a branch studio of IG Production

[@BrunoMaskulado03]

90+% of the staff of the entire anime industry is suffering from overwork/low pay~ its not just mappa

[@msal9602]

Sad. I hope MAPPA studio becomes a better workplace to their creative staffs. This is one of many reasons why I always defend the animators whenever someone says, "This studio sucks!"

[@catlike9444]

I agree. Defend the animators but hate the higher ups.

[@ShiroKage-h8v]

I thought aot team only has the overworked schedule

[@catlike9444]

@@ShiroKage-h8v No all teams have to overworked because mappa keep accepting too many anime

[@ShiroKage-h8v]

@@catlike9444 most of those project that have been announced now started the production from 2018-2019.

[@catlike9444]

@@ShiroKage-h8v Even with that. The fact mappa always accepting too many anime means less man power and more stress and in worst parts crunch time.

[@SakugaObscurious]

Would love a spotlight on TMS Entertainment. To me, this is the most overlooked studio by anime fans, disregarding the fact that they make amazing shows.

[@sleystad872]

the Goats and Sheeps joke was genuinely gold tho

[@musicchannel4453]

Mappa 🐑

[@sayanidas258]

Mappa understood the talent of many animators who were once underdogs. Understanding talent is itself a gift. Maruyama had this gift

[@brunobucciaralick3914]

What I learned from this video is when I think I love an anime because it's from mappa, I apparently love the specific people behind it- dumb brain me really didn't see the people but only the big studio name.. Also bless Maruyama, I really should get behind the actual people involved in anime more!

[@youtubewanderer7739]

Yeah you and everyone here says this but I doubt you will ever watch a film made murayuma…

[@brunobucciaralick3914]

@@youtubewanderer7739 I just Google what he was involved him and I've watched pretty much all of them lol

[@-MankoMan]

Isn't the Ufotable way the best though? They take few projects but pour everything they have into it. They're sure to have made mad bank with demon slayer and the fate trilogy movies, while also maintaining an incredible level of quality and what I hope is a healthy work load for the staff. So basically they got a lot of money (that they should use to pay their taxes), incredible quality and their staff aren't dying. Why can't more studios adapt to this pattern? Ofcourse it's not a simple thing to do, but from this video it's clear that one right step and MAPPA could've easily become like ufotable and kyoani.

[@Karma-pq9fi]

I don’t see Bones or Trigger struggling.

[@Manchesterunited00]

Does kyo ani also do the same?

[@dcresistance]

If only the treatment of female staff was a fraction of what KyoAni's is

[@ryux7063]

The difference between ufotable’s approach and MAPPA’s is that they rank high in the committee for their anime so they have more control over a studio like MAPPA when it comes to scheduling (although this doesn’t necessarily mean they have a flawless schedule all the time). This is a huge risk which most studios won’t do, but for ufotable it paid off because their anime are extremely successful and they get a share of the profits by being in the committee. There is also the fact that they have other steady sources of income such as a cafe. Basically they can afford to not do as many anime per year as mappa (even though they have even more employees to pay). MAPPA is similar to jc staff in the sense that they are large, have a lot of employees to pay and pretty much no other source of income besides taking on as many shows as possible. This could change for MAPPA if they rank high in chainsawman’s committee and it does well while jjk also does well, but I doubt otsuka will ever change his mindset. KyoAni is a similar situation to Ufotable with the added bonus of being located in a much cheaper area, having better schedules and are completely self sufficient.

[@ew275x]

Basically like Ryu X said, they keep the lights on by taking in projects. A lot of studios are in the red and need money to stay afloat and the way the system is setup you take up more work to get the cash. Other studios may not need to worry as much about keeping the studio afloat and it can come down to a lot of reasons.

[@raawesome3851]

Welp, looks like you were right. A key corrector from Attack on titan's animation team is leaving the project, and 80 percent of the workers there have filed complaints about being overworked. Edit: the fact that this is normal for a show in Japan is a problem.

[@FSMassy]

I feel bad for the animators

[@raawesome3851]

@@FSMassy yeah. They've gotten too much shit. The investors won't care, and will still push for the animators to work for that winter 2022 release date. So February/march, probably. So yeah.

[@joshualighttime604]

Yeah. What a shame to because without these problems of expecting every anime. Mappa could be up to ufotable level.

[@raawesome3851]

@@joshualighttime604 they are. It's just that all the fantastic animators, none of them work with Mappa. They need to get more money and influence, so they can afford to not make 8 shows a year. They aren't self sustaining. It is up to the investors in the company to make the series.

[@Clown-tf8jp]

It is normal, I heard somewhere.

[@faeb.9618]

the really depessing part is how theres still so many people saying that they dont care as long as they get their anime and it looks good. god it breaks my heart to see how little our art is actually valued

[@itsapplepai]

Hey, thanks for shouting out the hardworking PAs out there! As far as I'm concerned, they have the hardest jobs in the whole company at the studio I work at. There's so much to keep track of in the big shows we make, and they have to be on top of all, and it's insanity. I can't even imagine.

[@ew275x]

Good video, and as always pretty informative. It's tricky because as a fan you want too see a lot of good anime that is polished and want to celebrate the industry being successful but something has got to give if you don't want your favorite anime being made by a exploited workforce, which I imagine is what most fans want. The obvious solution is to make less anime but besides companies not going to do that, I fear it could be that it prevents more niche shows and the fewer ones we get are mostly manga adaptations.

[@awesomeziza]

This has helped me to rethink my once thoughtless support of Mappa because of the titles they were adapting which I enjoy the original works of. Not to say that I don't respect what the company has done or what its putting out now because the quality is generally incredible; however, this has encouraged me to rethink who I credit for these works, and how quickly I'm willing to give praise to the company as a whole. I appreciate where Mappa has gone dating back to Kids on the Slope and Rage of Bahamut: Genesis, for example, and I am appreciative of the Chainsaw Man adaptation, but I appreciate the actual souls, people who have worked and are working on these things. I will no longer blindly speak about how much of a "goat" Mappa is. Thank you, and thank you to the other commentators as well for helping me see how much I was viewing things from a fan standpoint, and by extension, dehumanizing the talent on future adaptations by not considering the human cost of them.

[@aero2423]

Yeah sometimes people need the realize human begin are behind these shows we love and that at the end of the day these shows are just fictional works of art

[@awesomeziza]

@@aero2423 Very true, and your comment makes me think of how interesting it is that fans' treatment of the works themselves can sometimes be better than the treatment of the staff behind them (specifically highlighting the harrassment of the animators for aot and even Gabi's Japanese voice actress I believe). Nothing wrong with indulging in fiction or becoming attached to it inherently, but being made aware of, and keeping in mind that there's real people to thank for it is just as important as streaming/buying the product. I'm not sure how much fans will be able to help beyond keeping this in mind and showing direct support to the people who work so hard. Thank you for your comment!

[@aero2423]

@@awesomeziza I think people get so emotional attached and invested to the point were they start harassing staff and most of the time they don’t even know who there talking to one time the harassed a director who didn’t even work on a episode they were mad about it’s just blind rage at that point and criticizing is fine and needed at times but yeah man it wild I don’t speak for all air fans but the ones that did what they did it’s honestly pathetic

[@joiboya]

The reason why I hate bandwagon dickriders who praises an anime studio and declare it the bestest of the best just because it's being adapting their fav shonen manga to anime back to back in a single year. Sad sad. Miss the good ol' Maruyama's MAPPA.

[@VAB419]

I did a double take when listening to but not reading the patrons part and hearing “my own mother” hah and then skipped back to actually read and make sure I heard that right! Moms getting an anime education on your channel.

[@sillyserpantines]

Thank you so much, Canipa, for trying to educate anime fans. You have my utmost respect.

[@raaz1408]

MAPPA coming to it's end sooner than ever.

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

They are still hard as rock

[@catlike9444]

@@jadeorbigoso5212 But a rock can crack and that crack can get bigger. This is called the madhouse affect.

[@raaz1408]

@@catlike9444 madhouse vibe indeed.

[@ShiroKage-h8v]

After csm, that's where will it crack like an egg if they'll adapt more new animes or do a pause to maintain animators health and just proceed with the sequels

[@Manchesterunited00]

@@ShiroKage-h8v manabu won’t give a shit lol, not even the anime industry itself, you remember kakegurui 2017, that hasn’t got a sequel until 2019, they’ll continue the shows they adapted but at the same time adapt more animes.

[@1Shayz1]

Wow this video is incredibly underviewed. Every anime fan needs to see this

[@Clown-tf8jp]

Fax

[@JayD001]

I found this very insightful, all I ever see on twitter is MAPPA being boasted about yet these issue's are worth knowing and people should be aware of the anime industry in greater detail especially in the western side of the world.

[@airbornez602]

The fact you have named the animes you show is GREAT

[@dabi_]

This video was genuinely fascinating and well produced

[@raawesome3851]

Indeed.

[@Clown-tf8jp]

Every video of canipa effect is the same

[@raawesome3851]

The funny thing is how amazingly and horribly this video has aged. On one hand, yes, their planning and productions are lacking, to the point where animators are complaining about how the bad the conditions are on Jujutsu kaisen. On the other hand, some of the directors you mentioned, alongside Mari Okada, are in MAPPA, making their own original shows and movies. Lazurus will be interesting to see, since it's been speculated the AOT team will be on it. Now it's not even the fact that MAPPA isn't a place for creativity and passion projects, because Gosso, Nakayama, Hayashi, Matsuda, Mari Okada, etc, were passionate about what they were working on. It's the fact that they cannot plan for shit. 🫠

[@betuna9487]

I loved Dororo so much, but at the back of my head I couldn't stop thinking of how much crunch time people did.

[@gilgameshcaster8996]

it's a collab anime with another studio, mappa didn't animate it all

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

@@gilgameshcaster8996 That doesn't mean there wasn't crunch

[@gilgameshcaster8996]

@@irecordwithaphone1856 happens to all studios

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

@@gilgameshcaster8996 Probably, it's still a problem people should push to change though

[@Flugmorph]

absolutely incredible video. thanks for being awesome canipa!

[@nafeeahnaf6296]

Maruyama being part of Astro Boy anime gives whole lot meaning to why his new studio is making PLUTO, the trailer is gorgeous hoping for the best

[@TheCanipaEffect]

And he worked on Urasawa's "Monster" as well. Comes full circle!

[@raawesome3851]

The comp looks pretty bad, though.

[@MrKillerNCB]

Idk why I got recommended this but I've been binging your stuff ever since and I've been loving the work

[@sunbro2680]

Another amazing Studio Spotlight that highlighted the good, the bad and the ugly. I really hope you make one for Studio 4C someday.

[@shayandoomed9889]

they're definitely not the best in term of studio either... their animator had to wait months before getting paid during the production of children of the sea.

[@aero2423]

@@shayandoomed9889 Jesus months? Wow

[@shayandoomed9889]

@@aero2423 yeah... and it's so sad to see a studio with such talented and hard working animator, that are able to create amazing movies, treat their employees like trash :(

[@aero2423]

@@shayandoomed9889 what have that produced in the past?

[@zekrom320]

Thank-you for fulfilling the request Canipa! Love you.

[@JiF28]

Dorohedoro is so under appreciated man One of the best shows ive ever seen

[@RenxyQuad]

We will see what happens in this new decade of where anime demand is high. Hopefully we will be able to still see creative adaptations and original anime.

[@gamingrex2930]

My prediction, china’s donghua industry wins, they have a much larger talent pool and actually decent working conditions, i mean have you seen the shit they put out? It’s on par already.

[@karandras2854]

I want good seinen adaptations, I'm so tired of copy pasterino shonen, there are masterpiece like holyland,alice in wonderland, battle royale, how can these manga not have adaptations. I understand shonen sell the most bc of age group but as more people transition into seinen land I'm expecting the industry to pick up, Im 23 and I don't have the same taste I had at 16.

[@erufailon4723]

I wonder how much time remains before the Mappa bubble bursts (like the Madhouse bubble did)

[@theLikou1]

I love many of MAPPA products, but they are leaning hard at becoming the next J.C. Staff. Someday all their products will be meet with subpar animation but they'll have like 5 animes per season.

[@askyourmama5862]

Mappa is trying hard not to be Madhouse Madhouse was like trying their best to be creative and unique with the highest quality possible but didn't had any astounding profit from being creative, unique, and high quality. That's why they got sold and lost their credibility Madhouse was and is the best studio in the anime industry just from the quality of their library but quality don't make money and anime is a product P.S. Best we can do is to support good products and discourage these corporations to be the heart and soulless factories

[@Karma-pq9fi]

Cloverworks getting a head start.

[@Nakazawaaa]

@@Karma-pq9fi man.. imo but i think cloverworks is an exception tho since they're really get well funded by big corporate (sony/aniplex) even with 2/3 projects on the same season they still deliver with some high quality products (i mean the art and animation)

[@cobalt5310]

Correct me if I'm wrong, i might be misremembering, but Madhouse went bankrupt or something right? Mappa definetely has a staff/work culture problem (nothing new here), but I don't think bankruptcy will do them in (at least not now)

[@njdnik]

Holy damn Canipa, such amazing perspective videos, maaan! Congrats!

[@KySignature]

mappa is my favorite i wish mappa and the animators the best

[@elliotjobert914]

I learned a lot through this video, thank you so much for your hard work !

[@NoLongerChild.]

AHAHHA, Soon there will be the anime adaption of my no.1 favourite anime of all time, thanks to Mappa

[@HiKimiko]

I liked this "history of a studio" video. Breaking down studios and directors helped me realized why I liked anime properties from different studios (the director moved)

[@yashwinning]

And know what the saddest thing is? This won't stop, because anime fans don't actually care about the people killing themselves to make those animes. We'll just want more and more and more. Nobody's talking about what you just talked about for 21 minutes. What are people talking about? "OMG MAPPA IS MAKING BANGER AFTER BANGER THEY SHOULD DO EVEN MORE!!!".

[@yashwinning]

And I'm also guilty of this by the way. I had no idea how bad the behind the scenes were to give us so many good animes within a year. I was also the person thinking MAPPA should handle the top tier shounen animes and release like 5 per year. And this ignorant opinion of mine is being echoed everywhere I look.

[@Manchesterunited00]

@@yashwinning yeah lol a studio handling 5 shonen manga animes is always a bad thing, like at least one of the second season of those 5 shonen anime would have to suffer in quality for the other one to look the best.

[@ShiroKage-h8v]

@@Manchesterunited00 how about bones having a lot of shounen?

[@Manchesterunited00]

@@ShiroKage-h8v they haven’t done any shonen other than MHA as of rn and soon to be announced the case of study vanitas, their other animes are anime originals and netflix collab with orange. But if bones are doing what mappa or jc is doing rn, i’d loose my respect for them cause they choose money over worker respect.

[@alexanderkenway]

MAPPA: if a 'yes man' was a company

[@neonxnational]

Yeah the definition of "TRY NOT TO SAY "NO" CHALLENGE"

[@ScottishBonobo]

Thank you very much for this video! In my friend group I'm the one who knows the most about the behind the scenes side of things so it's good to have a video to share among them now

[@julianrivera9753]

I've been waiting so long for a WIT Studio spotlight 😩 pleeeeease

[@TheCanipaEffect]

The Attack on Titan video covers a lot of WIT Studio's history and philosophy

[@julianrivera9753]

@@TheCanipaEffect true enough, it just seems a shame to boil such a talented studio down to one show, especially when they explicitly said they didn't want to be known as the Attack on Titan studio. Not to mention, they have other great shows, such as Ancient Magus Bride, Vinland Saga, Seraph of the End, Kabaneri, and Great Pretender. For me at least, they've been one of the consistently great studios

[@Clown-tf8jp]

@@julianrivera9753 and now vivy

[@idkidc7513]

Great video about MAPPA, I had my worries about how it was possible for a company to produce as much as they do rn. There's only one detail: The system *works* as intended, and this is proof of it.

[@ravend5595]

I was waiting for this !!! Btw studio wit has a Kickstarter go support please!!! The girl from the other side anime movie

[@BoemioAI]

awesome video, dude

[@StriderHoang]

Watching Chainsaw Man is going to be that gif of that guy looking conflicted from Curb Your Enthusiasm

[@MrSlim3000]

It's people Like you II appreciate the most man, we need information like this, Thank you

[@Panicsssss]

God tier. Please take care of yourselves

[@raawesome3851]

Well, MAPPA is planning on raising the wages, and reducing project numbers.

[@fenitloop732]

I was just thinking about this last night! Literally had to check your channel if you did a feature on them already.

[@kaitlynmorgan8097]

The fact that were constantly getting over 20+ anime shows each season when people are only capable of watching like 3 is fuckin insane

[@Nakazawaaa]

So its safe to say that Mappa is a new Madhouse right? Its just sad that this exploitative is still a thing right now :(

[@TropicaIJay]

Yeah and the sad part is mappa is super talented and they know this, so I don't understand why they wanna do so many anime.

[@BlueTakis_ftw]

@@TropicaIJay agreed

[@Manchesterunited00]

Just a matter of time till mappa *burns out*

[@SatimoDZN]

@@TropicaIJay their only main source of revenues are accepting projects, that's why they're accepting all those projects at the same time

[@zifran7657]

@@TropicaIJay dude, you really like animation huh, because everytime i watch a video about animation, i always see you in the comment section

[@dinklezucc5982]

More people need to expose exploitative companies. Almost all companies exploit their workers, and one way to slowly change that is to call it out whenever possible and put pressure on them to change it. Class consciousness, unions, and community aid all help too. Great video :)

[@TheUniqueaim]

Thanks for making this video. It's very important to shed light on the people who create these shows for our consumption.

[@jtrthehax]

Capitalism: Something starts out good, defines itself, generates attention. Then large company comes in to buy so that it can pump out product. Quality drops. Now it's just another money making animation studio.

[@doodleboi7034]

I saw lots of examples for that. Its depressing Bro. Been a fan of capitalism for a while now I just hate it

[@dr.chocolates2630]

capitalism's biggest enemy is monopoly.

[@Deanric1234]

Communism: There is no anime, also I am starving.

[@mybawzarerichie]

@@Deanric1234 communism is when no anime. Got it thank you mr intelletcual

[@justarandomguywithoutaname8719]

@@Deanric1234 communism is when everyone grows food and nobody gets it

[@nebel_slayn4290]

Interesting. Madhouse and MAPPA are among my favorite studios. Had no clue they were linked!

[@elogan5817]

Studio MAPPA sounds like what CDProjectRed does in the videogame industry. Burn through all the people they have access to in order to create an experience that shouldn't be possible with the budget and schedule. Because it isn't. The cost of CDPR is developers health, both physical and mental. They are famous in the industry for grinding developers to dust and burning them out hard. Sounds a lot like what MAPPA is currently doing and it will turn on them hard a few seasons or years down the line, when all the great talent they rely on for consistency will have left. I'd love to see an M2 Jujutsu Kaisen, so we can have both incredible animation _and_ relatively fair working conditions.

[@theLikou1]

Well, basically there is no studio with good working conditions besides KyoAni and possibly ufotable.

[@heythere9475]

@@theLikou1 but some are definitely worse than the others. And just because many studio are bad doesn't mean we can't call them out for it

[@fluffbunn4175]

@@theLikou1 Ufotable : the secret to healthy work conditions is tax evasion

[@theLikou1]

@@fluffbunn4175 Yeah, there's that.

[@theLikou1]

@@heythere9475 I'm not saying that, I'm just pointing out how bad the whole situation is. If it was one studio it would be more of an easy solution, but it's something really hard to see how to solve it.

[@ig21100]

Thank you always for your entertaining and informative videos. The anime industry really needs to change, thank you for being vocal about the issues facing the industry. Hopefully things can change.

[@MelvaCross]

That's a bummer. When I hear MAPPA, I think of a versatile studio that is able to produce a lot of anime and still making it look great. Yuri on Ice's biggest issue was the insane schedule and hugely varying quality. Instead of learning that great anime takes time, they double down on the thing that almost broke the show's back... Otsuka extinguished the studio's soul. Capitalism at its finest. Only looking at growing. Like cancer.

[@joiboya]

Aptly said.

[@ltrt6975]

How is this "Capitalism at its finest" when other companies working under the same system are and will continue to be more successful without having to treat their workers this way?

[@MelvaCross]

@@ltrt6975 If your only priority is financial growth and you ignore the health of your workers, the quality of your product and the principles the company was founded upon, that's capitalism at its finest. I don't know if you saw the same video. But it's pretty clear that Mappa is not treating its staff better than others. The workload is absurd and Otsuka wants to explore the limits of how far he can push it.

[@HiHi-it1vr]

@@MelvaCross Ain't that capitalism at it's worst? Well, the ideals of capitalism is far off from what is actually happening, I get that. But capitalism working to it's utmost ideal and philosophy of freedom would be heaven right or at it's finest. And that goes to other political system, if a political system were to be able to work at it's finest and perform accordingly to it's ideals then that would essentially be a utopia.

[@MelvaCross]

@@HiHi-it1vr Every political system is utopian if everything functioned as intended. But everything has its flaws. I won't debate what system is best. That's not my intention. My intention was to point to a flaw in the mindset that is typical under capitalism: Growth over everything. The more money you make, the more powerful you become. There is a huge monetary incentive to disregard your workers' needs, the principles and ideals the company was founded on and reduce the quality of your product. There are stories worth being told. But those stories may not promise safe financial gain. If your only goal is making money and not art, these stories will go untold. "Capitalism at its finest" is a hyperbole. It can be better. But it's very typical for it to end up looking like this. Thus my dislike for the capitalist mindset.

[@ShatteredGlass916]

"Then when some of us got together and created Madhouse...." That's the biggest flex ever, no amount of Lambos and Drips can rivals that

[@carloscauan7967]

Any chance we could get a studio spotlight on Fire Force, or even in David Production as a whole?

[@bobabola3399]

Yea that would be dope

[@Nakazawaaa]

And also the studio that make Mushoku Tensei, since the studio was created to only make that anime and there's some people say Re:zero season 2 had lack of animation was because the team that used to work on rezero season 1 were moved into Mushoku tenseis studio (cmiiw)

[@theLikou1]

@@Nakazawaaa They only have one series and we don't know if the studio will ever make another project besides Mushoku Tensei or everyone will be back to their original studios. It will be a little hard to make an analysis on that.

[@TheCanipaEffect]

@@Nakazawaaa I'd probably wait for them to make a few more shows before I go right ahead and make a spotlight on them. They were created for the sake of making Mushoku, but there's several studios that were initially made for one show. I'm excited to see what else they can pull together. In regards to David Production... I've got a lot of Jojo to watch.

[@ilhama3214]

@@TheCanipaEffect and a lot of memes to remember if that's your thing definitely

[@cliveandersonjr.8758]

Wow! Thank you for bringing this issue to light!

[@Dan_Roland]

I really want them to take their time with AoT S4 part 2. That finale is going to be one horrific mess if they don’t.

[@Avarn388]

Dan Roland The ending you could argue is a mess but yeah MAPPA should take their time. I doubt it because money.

[@Dan_Roland]

@@Avarn388 Oh right lol. Well, say what you will about the actual story, the final battle itself could be the most impressive spectacle of the show if they take the time to make it good. If they could just get one or two of the pros from WIT to help out with it.

[@C-F98]

@@Dan_Roland Well, they announced the P2 is coming back in Winter. So another 8-9 months...

[@Dan_Roland]

@@C-F98 They better push that back. I'm more of a gamer than an otaku and quality assurance delays are usually inherent with games (or at least Nintendo games), so idk how I'd handle a crunched product.

[@sohel.khanbd]

@@Dan_Roland dont keep hopes. Even if they get more thsn 1 yesr.it wont br enough part 2 has horrific animations if they just managed to make the eren vs reighner fight good (with cg) it would be good and if in 2d(a miracle). Rumbling will surely be cg and others might be blend between 2d and cg

[@kzrhridoy2953]

Outstanding & indepth analysis as always.

[@samsonfgc3472]

I've kinda just had this sinking feeling for the past year every time I see MAPPA stuff. Like "Wow, MAPPA is making another anime, they make so much good looking stuff!" Then I realize that this is the third MAPPA show in the past 5 months and wonder how the fuck the animators are keeping up.

[@Manchesterunited00]

Them animators are on that exploitation pain

[@ShiroKage-h8v]

Yasuke was made back in 2018 with enough time. Also most of the animes that have been announced started the production before even it get announced

[@gilgameshcaster8996]

After this, they'll mostly focus on sequels rather than grabbing more animes. It will be bad for the studio if they still ongoingly grabbing more

[@Manchesterunited00]

@@gilgameshcaster8996 mappa tried to do that in 2017 but ended up doing the opposite

[@sass2836]

It's fascinating watching this post-Chainsaw Man, because it answers a lot of questions I had about the approach to production. I was surprised to see so many international animators involved -- very talented artists, obviously, but didn't seem the norm. I hope MAPPA's conditions have improved since this video was made, but I'm guessing not, with the sheer breadth of their upcoming adaptation slate. Hoping the Yuri on Ice movie sees the light of day someday, and very much looking forward to M2's Pluto. Superb video and channel, thank you for all your hard work.

[@catlike9444]

One of the reasons chainsaw man was so amazing is because of one important factor. Chainsaw man is a full on passion project which means mappa themselves are funding it and are for the most part in charge of their deadlines. They won't have production committee like Kodansha straight up screwing then over with terrible deadlines. It's like bones with mob psycho. Passion project are always for the most part the exception. So csm will be amazing but don't expect jjk and especially aot to have the same quilty.

[@sass2836]

@@catlike9444 Cheers -- appreciate the additional context! I loved S1 of JJK and was pleased with its quality, but CSM was definitely on another level again.

[@Yuu-it1zk]

“Yasuke will be brilliant!” Lol

[@raawesome3851]

I mean, that's Netflix's fault.

[@SatimoDZN]

The production was amazing, the story was ass, don't blame MAPPA for that

[@kenz6502]

Thank you for putting the anime names, I have a brand new list of animes to watch

[@Clown-tf8jp]

You must be new

[@javelinmaster2]

Ah Mappa. The Busy workbee, always finding ways to do more work. No matter if it has (or is about to have) A burnout or not. Kinda like the japanese work environment incarnate.

[@martinserrano1959]

Thanks for using Terror In Resonance soundtrack

[@quisquiliarum7710]

"but these successes have sacrifices" *shows AoT season 4* yeeeaah...

[@raawesome3851]

What? Is this about the ending?

[@quisquiliarum7710]

@@raawesome3851 no the studio change and murder of the artstyle

[@raawesome3851]

@@quisquiliarum7710 art style? It's as close as it can be as a manga/anime hybrid. Not to mention, Wit literally made it more simple in terms of character designs, so it could be animated more. Mappa made some of the most detailed models, but doesn't have it animated. It's amazing on stills, basically. That's what season 4 is. Season 1, definitely not that.

[@raawesome3851]

@@quisquiliarum7710 also, the color pallete made aot look like a constant sunset, which wasn't a realistic art style. That's why I prefer the more muted colors of season 4.

[@shadowofagod896]

Even though I am always siked with every new hit that Mappa put out, what always come to my mind was "R.I.P the animators".

[@UseTheLess00]

Holy. Shit. Holy shit. I cannot believe there is a change Pluto gets anime. My happiness is immeasurable and my day is fulfilled

[@anaskrawi6177]

Pluto anime was announced like 3 years ago I think we got a trailer for it like half a year ago and that was the last I've heard about it

[@UseTheLess00]

@@anaskrawi6177 As long as it isn't rushed I'm fine

[@h3lldiv3r]

didnt even know that there will be Pluto Anime until it was mentioned in this video. Cant Wait !

[@LeKingCarnage]

Though I appreciated MAPPA doing Attack on Titan The Final Season, I somehow felt that the "MAPPA good" thing on social media when it was airing wasn't showing the whole picture. This video shed light on that from the overworked animators on tight schedules and hiring foreign talent to be on schedule not being compensated the amount they deserve. I get that the movement is for the animators but slapping on the studio's name kinda defeats the purpose when the studio has put them on that position to begin with.

[@ddeuce]

When you mentioned pluto was in develop. My hopes in this world increases! Btw such an amazing video!

[@superreatardwood7943]

"OMG MAPPA GOATED WITH CHAINSAW MAN! LET'S CROWN THEM THE BEST STUDIO EVER!" "Wait, stop! Can't you see? This is the same Mappa only with a slightly better schedule/paycheck for CSM! The animators are still overworked and underpaid like before!" "But they're animating Saitama vs Garou next year." ... "MAPPA GOAT!1!1!1!"

[@luminousepoque8666]

Thank you for putting this together.

[@JoshuaCodes]

Great video, wish you had mentioned Watanabes other anime at MAPPA (Terror in Resonance) a little bit but great vid.

[@formular1927]

that transition line with the guitar riff always gives me goosebumps

[@Christopher._M]

Studio mappa in 2015 was not what it is today but it was promising. My main complaint with them would be the CG other than that they were a okay studio since 2015.

[@Raf8347]

you should make a video about Studio Cloverworks at some point. after hearing on the Production problems on Promised Neverland S2 and Wonder Egg Priority it made me genuinely curious about what happened in detail and all

[@gerardocuellar4901]

The Canipa effect: But these successes have sacrifices (Shows Attack on titan clip with CGI titans) Me: Don´t (Yes its a joke)

[@varunpatil599]

He meant it

[@luckyowl10]

0:51 you couldn't have said it better

[@ketsuekikurochi7647]

I hope that you can do a A1 pictures studios spotlight again. Or maybe TMS entertainment . I think they handled the problem Mappa faced right now well, especially A1 pictures

[@SatimoDZN]

in A-1's case they clearly didn't, the studio was split in two where you can see that cloverworks (who was under A-1) is still overproducing animes as hell, it's even worse than MAPPA where that studio has 80employees and MAPPA having 310

[@gamebond6248]

@@SatimoDZN didn't they form a collaborative company together with wit for stronger schedules?

[@SatimoDZN]

@@gamebond6248 JOEN itself is a joke, it's a production company with 2money whores in it, set your expectations low or you'll be disappointed

[@Radamenthe]

This is just sad, I would hope that at some point something huge will happen in the industry to fix the situation, but seeing that there are more and more anime being made every season makes me feel like it won't be the case :(

[@mohammedmusa3031]

So MAPPA is basically mad house season 2

[@Olivreira_]

incredible video, thank you

[@stheteller7470]

16:04 Don't forget the masterpiece that is Dorohedoro

[@granzon7396]

mappa the only studio u can feel the animation motion of bad assery