Should You Buy a 2023 Honda Pilot? Thorough Review By A Mechanic

[@m271-c1h]

This dude is definitely one of the best car reviewers out there. So in depth and straightforward.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

A rarety. Most reviews are "NUMBERS, LOOKS, HAS A WIRELESS PHONE CHARGING PAD, AnDrOiD Wireless!!!". This guy takes the time to show you what others won't.

[@MsFatpigs]

And you can barely find ANY mechanical reviews these days either. I based my purchase off of his review too!

[@cadel5840]

CCN and SavageGeese are the only reviewers worth watching

[@m271-c1h]

@@cadel5840 Agree

[@brokeboy87]

Well, because of how he presents cars I don't see any manufacturers inviting him to any press release or an auto show.

[@MikeR55]

Being a retired Honda mechanic I was always impressed by Honda's engineering, reliability and ease of maintaining. I still enjoy owning and driving my old 06 Pilot EX now with 246 k and still runs like new.

[@dreemer02]

I have an 07 with 135k miles and the rear subframe rusted out. Luckily I saw and had it fixed, but it is a problem for those who lives up north.

[@dreemer02]

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[@jamesjacobs592]

Would you buy the 2023 Honda pilot?

[@MikeR55]

@@jamesjacobs592 I'd buy the shorter Honda Passport, Trailsport version if I was looking for a new suv. I'm single and don't need the extra seats of the Pilot. I'm ok with the mechanical upgrades but still very happy with my 06. I also own a newer 4x4 Ranger midsize pickup.

[@shadowman1992]

I have a question for you sir. I have an 07 ridgeline 155k bought it used I have no idea if a valve adjustment has been done. It's not loud and does not misfire runs great. Do I need a valve adjustment? Cam I wait to get one ? And how do a lot of honda v6 owners actually never get a valve adjustment and their some of their engines have well over 200k miles with a valve adjustment never done ?

[@timpierce5825]

I recently purchased this exact same vehicle. Honestly, I feel like I committed a sin by moving away from Toyota for the first time in my life, but I just can’t get on board with the 4cyl turbo in the GH. By watching your video, I feel a lot more comfortable and confident about my purchase. Thank you!

[@impaul41]

I’d take a 4cyl turbo over NA with cylinder deactivation. Turbos haven’t been proven problematics but CD absolutely has.

[@brettsuddreth5171]

lol turbos have been around way longer than cylinder deactivation, if you’re going to have any modern car with a turbo or cd then you will have to service either at some point but the naturally aspirated vehicle should be more reliable regardless of cylinder deactivation.

[@KingKong-]

Toyota Highlander Hybrid was a great choice & never feel under powered but it is cvt & not direct drive AWD like in Honda or VW but the electric motors do a good job of pulling out of sticky situation👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@sizzlacalunji]

Notice AMD said in the past it was an issue. Why? Because the newer V6s have less prevalence of VCM issues versus pre 2015 I think. The good thing is if you don’t want to have VCM or don’t like the vibration when it’s active, then VCM can be disabled with VCM tuner 2.

[@impaul41]

@@sizzlacalunji already tons of reports of vibration

[@wescam]

Long term Toyota and Subaru fan here. I just got a 25 Pilot. No markups. Simple design concepts. Not too showy. Efficient enough. Capable enough for snow and soft road excursions. Everything is easy and smooth.

[@kanbowhunter]

Looking at a 2025 Honda Pilot TrailSport. The only thing I don't like about it is the Auto Engine Idle Stop. You have to turn off the setting every time you get in and drive. Any issues with your new 25 Pilot?

[@wescam]

​@@kanbowhunter You either get used to it working or used to clicking the button. I had it on my new 24 Outback Wilderness I sold to buy the Pilot. That auto-stop-start became mandatory on all vehicles with keyless ignition in the US in September 22 so most cars have it. They have a cycle counter and can replace the starter at a specific interval of stop+starts so you don't end up stranded years down the road due to the starter wearing out. I turn mine off.

[@stankaitis81]

same here ne 2025 myself and couldn't be happier.

[@alliejr]

I respect a Toyota guy who doesn’t hate on Honda. Honda is not perfect. Neither is Toyota. But game respects game!

[@danielstehura9657]

This idiot really hates Tesla model Y and gave a super bad review on it. He never owned one. He just badmouth it so he could sell his stupid videos on KZbin because he can’t make it as a Mechanic financially.!

[@ryanb8736]

So you’re a Honda fan? 😂

[@erikgonzalez2278]

Thats why I like his reviews he looks at it as a mechanic!

[@danielstehura9657]

@@erikgonzalez2278 He is an Idiot when it comes to Teslas! he criticizes a design because it’s aerodynamic. He’s a real POS.

[@syazwanchawan8779]

Most Japanese brands are respectable. Chinese & Korean brands are cheaper but also come with problems...see more

[@cookc327]

I’ve said it before …but he’s top of the heap. His under car review is absolutely the best thing on KZbin. Just the perfect walk through!

[@nipponautomotivellc]

As a Honda/Toyota mechanic myself and having seen countless reviews on this generation Pilot, you still brought forth many bits of information that I didn't hear about before. Thank you AMD for your hard work and knowledge with these thorough technical reviews.

[@Jamrock626]

Have you work on any Acura products

[@nipponautomotivellc]

@@Jamrock626 yes though not many. Mostly on Hondas/Toyotas.

[@Jamrock626]

@@nipponautomotivellc I have an MDX that's nothing but a nightmare to me. It vibrates when it changes gear particularly 8th. When purchased I had an itch and trans cooler installed and they told me the vibration was due to the cooler.

[@nipponautomotivellc]

@@Jamrock626 sounds a bit fishy to me though haven't come across this issue before. Not sure what could cause it.

[@lordloafy6548]

@@Jamrock626what year MDX? The last generation, which I owned, had a ZF 9 speed, which has not gotten good reviews amongst owners in the MDX fb group. I own a pilot now and I’m glad this 10 speed has been smooth shifting

[@mohalostath]

This is what I call a great car review.. one of the best .. seriously, car reviews should only be done by honest professional mechanics .. thank you sir ..

[@almassengale]

What Honda really nailed with this generation of their interior design is easy controls. Big dials that feel high quality and big buttons. The design isn't glitzy but it will age well and it can be learned quickly unlike some of the systems that bury everything in touchscreens.

[@justacinnamonbun8658]

What good is the interior, buttons and infotainment system when you can't make a proper engine. Timing belt (still), GDI only and VCM. Gimme a break.

[@KW-1754]

@@justacinnamonbun8658I’m pretty sure the timing belt is to make ppl change the water pump and tensioner at the same time. Forced maintenance, if you will

[@tommy516]

The new pilot has little tiny kind of cheap feeling dials...they arent as nice as the old ones.

[@luish777]

Yes couldn't have said better myself. Other car and truck makers really really need to understand this.

[@21Piloteer]

@@justacinnamonbun8658 Honda builds some of best V6 engines on the planet. Dunce.

[@amp356]

Thank God the Pilot got a good review I just purchased one last month. The Elite trim level has door lock and unlock with all four door handles. I love the car.

[@drousseau5908]

Waiting for mine to be delivered this will make our 10th Honda. We just can't beat the longevity I run most of mine well over 200k.

[@jamram9924]

I was a Honda fan, but switched to Toyota. I like Honda cars but Toyota trucks, thus I own a 5.7 liter Tundra (dislike turbos). I just took possession of my nephew’s 2000 Honda Accord, my project car. Both Honda and Toyota are excellent Japanese vehicles and both have their great contributions to the automotive world. Excellent review from AMD!

[@Docsammy]

I wanted a reliable 3 row for my family trips. I did a lot of research and bought a 22 Pilot. I'm glad I did.

[@AMScotty]

I also just bought a 22 pilot for my wife. It's a great suv. Fun to drive. Super safe and reliable for my wife and our 11 month old.

[@frankpflumm2468]

Your reviews are absolutely one of the best out there. Well laid out, thorough, understandable and to the point.

[@davdjimenez1150]

I’m glad to see you reviewing different brands on your channel and focusing on the mechanical/technical aspect of things

[@bwest-yq3uc]

Have not seen a deactivation system that HAS not been a problem. Great video and review...better than Honda does them.

[@jeremiahhall2281]

I truly appreciate every technical review you do on all vehicles!!!! Very detailed and it gives us things to consider prior to purchasing. May the good Lord continue to bless you and your family!!

[@KPHVAC]

I'm really looking forward to the updated Honda Passport Trail Sport! I don't need a 3 row but I want the room and V6. My 2010 Honda Accord V6 has been fantastic for over 10 years and 175,000 miles.

[@gerardconde3652]

Just purchased 24 Pilot Touring. Your review helped me decide between the various vehicles in this class. Actual, useful information. Thank you for your efforts.

[@jmona3046]

This is the review you need if you're looking to buy this car. Very detailed, no nonsense (sorry the double negative) and to the points that prospective buyers will need to consider.

[@furiahispanica3823]

Timing Belt replacement was very expensive on our 2012 Honda Pilot, very reliable vehicle but with Todays inflation a Timing Chain is the way to go.

[@jpdoc5722]

and Honda transmission worries me

[@ojabog]

I didn’t have any transmission issues. Interference engines require timing belt changes around 100k miles. Cost was $1600 back before Covid. Probably $2,500 or more now.

[@furiahispanica3823]

2,200 but it also covered an alternator that was going bad. 248,000 miles and still going. Transmission shifts rough but from what other mechanics like Scottie sat its normal, just gotta work with it and ignore the clanks or hard shifts. Overall it's gets the family around, my 2012 Nissan Sentra stranded me on the road at only 160,000. Still runs but needs work.

[@seikocitizenwatches]

The new Honda Pilot also has very good styling, it’s the best looking Pilot to date. Our 2003 still runs great at 232K miles.

[@yms9829]

It is a trade-off, longer hook sacrificed cabin room; straight-line hook design increased blind spot in front of the vehicle. It is more masculine, with these trade-offs

[@slalomking]

Have you changed your timing belt at every 100k miles? If not your engine could fail at any time.

[@mattdecker6791]

We own an 03 Pilot since birth, also. AC replaced 2x at $1500 each, but otherwise pretty darn reliable after 270K miles.

[@prun8893]

I bought one brand new. I disabled the cylinder deactivation and disabled the engine turn off when stopped. I had both little kits ready to go before the car had 100 miles on it. Now it'll last forever.

[@MrRusoloco]

where can you buy the kit.thanks

[@prun8893]

@@MrRusoloco Are you employed by any federal, state, county, or municipal government?

[@markwegner6100]

​@@prun8893I'm not. Got a '19 Odyssey Elite. I'd like to buy a kit.

[@TrilithiumBanditKelsey]

But, why bother, just buy something that's actually put-together better.

[@tonycapil1022]

Does this void warranty? I'm truly curious.

[@mironkorzalko7761]

I'm 4 minutes in and heard all I need to know. As a Silverado owner , I know cylinders deactivation is a nightmare.

[@jasonmurdoch9936]

💯

[@josephschneider5000]

It can be easily deactivated though which if you expect to keep the car for a long time is a must to help prevent burning oil later on

[@kmkrreeves1]

Completely agree, but still prefer this over the new trend of undersizing the engine and slapping a turbo on it like every other model

[@michaelthomas9243]

if you're driving a Silverado, you've got way bigger problems than cylinder deactivation.

[@ChrisMaj]

I still have a 2008 honda Odyssey with 150K miles on it and never had a problem with cylinder deactivation

[@chetanjiva8874]

I was hoping you review this SUV. I really wanted a 4Runner but I needed something with more seating so went with this. Although it's a unibody design but I think Honda knows how to build a good frame. Simple and it works for me. And I'm happy about the newest safety features especially with all these heavy EVs everywhere.

[@trailblazeratv6306]

The older Pilots run for 300k+ miles so I wouldn't worry

[@bullet1218]

This is the best car review I've watched...he started with the engine and delivered on everything else...💯👍

[@johnackerlind4707]

Excellent review. Excellent reviewer. I got under my 2023 Ridgeline the other day just to look at its suspension and look at the overall assembly of the car. It looks like it came out of aircraft factory, so straightforward. Honda having so much racing experience on and offroad explains it’s exceptional ride and cornering. I hit purposely a large speed bump at 50mph and the truck remained perfectly level absorbing the bump flawlessly. Hats off.

[@loualexander3408]

Last winter I bought my 2008 Honda Pilot with 230 miles. It was the last year when Honda did NOT use the Variable Cylinder Management (cylinder deactivation). After redoing the suspension it runs like a new car - both the engine and the transmission are smooth and the suspension rides firm and sporty but not too firm and not too sporty.

[@brettcarter6189]

2008 Pilots do have VCM. My 2006 has it. That was the first year they implemented it. 4WD models don’t have it. Is yours 4WD?

[@gabepena2689]

Car care nut has yo have the best car reviews out there. After watching his Grand Highlander review and Honda Pilot review, i really like how he isn't biased and gives other manufacturers props when due, he also highlights the thigs toyota could do better. I also like how he doesn't glorify cars for having 20 in infotainments and doing 0-60 under 5 seconds, he reviews for what they are. Love this channel!

[@killerb5726]

Been waiting on this review, not for the pilot, but anticipating the Ridgeline refresh. Timing belt and the expense that comes with it concerns me, along with direct injection only. Seems pretty solid overall. Nice review as always.

[@travisstrickland7270]

Same reason I'm keeping up with it. Trying to see what the New Ridgeline will have

[@paulm6481]

We have a 2019 Ridgeline with six speed transmission. I be,I’ve it has DIrect Inject only

[@thinbrickspec77]

Cheaper to replace a timing belt than it is to replace a timing chain and it’s guides.

[@killerb5726]

@@thinbrickspec77 yeah but timing chains should last the life of the car, a timing belt is a known high ticket item. It has to be done at a certain interval or you risk blowing an engine.

[@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw]

So a once every 75K mile service price is a concern. If you ran the car to 300K miles, you do 3 belts…. That’s your concern… people are goofy

[@andrewmosley7904]

We trade vehicles way too much and therefor, I watch a ton of car reviews. This has to be one of the best reviews I have ever watched. Expertly done and the information is unmatched. Looking at buying one of these this weekend. Well done sir!

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

The Honda Pilot is the third longest lasting SUV with 42.7% passing 250k miles, that's even more than the 4Runner. Whether this new generation can live up to those numbers is to be seen.

[@mygolfballsannoy]

My 2000 excursion v10 i just sold had 250k

[@christopherdeguzman1137]

Very interesting statistic. May I ask where you got this information? I’m also a 2013 Honda Pilot owner and have been very pleased with it and still have it. I just picked up a 2020 Toyota 4Runner and they feel very different. I know Honda is unibody construction while the 4Runner is body on frame. Still, I’m loving my 4Runner also!😀

[@rocketman3158]

Just passed 300000 on my Dodge Durango. Still running strong!

[@ONeal397]

What's the first 2 suvs?

[@mygolfballsannoy]

@@rocketman3158 👍🏿sweet😎 those are rare

[@briand.1694]

Interesting comment on the exhaust systems on Honda's. I've owned several. All had well over 100,000 miles and never had an issue with an exhaust system.

[@davewilson7602]

He’s in IL, maybe a rust belt thing? Although I’ve had Hondas in the Midwest and no exhaust issues.

[@itgoesfast2722]

Your reviews are the best I have ever seen and of course I subscribe to your channel and enjoy all your videos. Your made it so easy to eliminate this vehicle from my list as soon as you said cylinder deactivation and direct injection only.

[@kcav1255]

I always liked Savagegeese because they get under the car in the shoppe segment. But this guy takes it to another level.

[@djken4k864]

The only review that is a real true review of the things that matter. Thank you.

[@oliver.79]

For a new car, I am surprised by the amount of rust underneath!!! Thank you for the great video!!

[@ryanb8736]

Honda and Toyota are known for it. You need to get a German vehicle it you don’t want rust.

[@byronargueta1026]

No rust maybe, everything else failing yes for sure on a german car😂

[@ctbale1]

Needs Fluid Film

[@meenam300zx]

Volvo is the best. It never rusts. I have a 2014 XC60 with 68,000 miles and drives and looks as good as new.

[@christians218]

Not the new ones made in China ​@@meenam300zx

[@Robert8455]

Excellent review. If cylinder deactivation can be defeated / selected with a button then okay but if that is forced on you, then that's a deal breaker for me. Its a shame its under powered because Honda really got so many things right on this update. Also not a fan of DI only but time will tell if that is any concern. Great job keeping the passenger cabin safe too.

[@michaelthomas9243]

Very simple to deactivate. I bought the S-VCM controller and self installed on my 2017 V6 Accord and 2017 Pilot. No issues. Problem solved.

[@ctbale1]

Yup, first thing I would do is disabled vcm with the s-vcm device

[@go_dawgs_8290]

Underpowered? Dang how heavy is it? 285 HP seems sufficient

[@robertneal6878]

@ctbale1 I was asked if the S-VCM tuner would work on the new double camed engine. That is a question I am not able to answer. Is a modified version available if needed? Needless to say/write, I would definitely recommend one from the problems it causes. I put one on my 19’ Pilot with no issues so far. As far as the pilot being underpowered, I disagree. Once the warranty is up, one could throw on a supercharger if one has the ‘Need For Speed.’

[@richeyrich2203]

There is a tuber out there that has a 120k passport and when taking the top off, the system was very clean for DI. Doesn’t seem to be an issue at all. It’s a very high compression engine.

[@mr.makeitrain.3011]

My pilot 2005, 200,000 miles still kicking azz quiet engine luv it.

[@kmkrreeves1]

Timing belt and manual tensioner in 2023. Wild Honda.

[@sk-un5jq]

They say it's smoother.

[@SZNszn1167]

I’m so glad that they went back to the square front end. It looks a hell of a lot better.

[@anthonyraitani]

You're reviews are awesome! Only feedback I have is to focus more on the specs comparing 3rd row leg room + comfort + trunk volume to competitors. Maybe start using a standard double stroller or 2 suitcases to put in the trunk so we can see how much room we really have. For anything with a 3rd row, I promise the families (me) watching it, care a TON about the back area of the car in making a decision. ESPECIALLY because everyone is backordered and we can't go to dealerships to ever see one of these in person. Thank you!

[@pkdude5334]

judging by the change in voice It seems like he forgot about the third row and had to add it in later

[@senderillasoo4926]

There’s other channels that do that so you can go watch theirs.. it says mechanics for a reason 🙄

[@Noah_E]

His reviews are more in depth than just rattling off a bunch of specs. You can look them up from the manufacturer or a third party source like Edmunds in a matter of seconds. But realistically, you need to see them for yourself. A model may have less cargo space on paper, but be more useful if it's laid out properly vs a larger area with a ton of intrusions, like the Highlander that has a roof strength bar that drops the height of what it can accommodate.

[@christians218]

You can find that info in the other 100+ subpar reviews on KZbin.

[@captainadkins8798]

I’ve been eyeballing this vehicle for a few weeks. This video makes me want it even more. I absolutely loved my old 05 Pilot.

[@Zaku2077]

It’s a shame about the cylinder deactivation. Even Mazda is doing it on their SkyActiv G engines. Hopefully they have managed to engineer it better than they used to.

[@lizzieb6311]

What?! I’m a Mazda person (though I do like Honda and Toyota)… imwas not aware Mazda was doing this…my 21 CX5 doesn’t have that…is it on the larger CX90 or small models too?

[@24GirlPanda]

@@lizzieb6311 All Mazda 2.5L 4 CYL Skyactiv-G's have Cylinder Deactivation iirc. Your CX5 (2018+) will have Cylinder Deactivation, however it's probably seamless so you don't notice it. Unless you have the turbo model, your vehicle will most likely have it.

[@lizzieb6311]

@@24GirlPanda thank you…I did not know that! I don’t have turbo..but I guess that’s why I love my Mazda so much…I don’t even notice it! Thank you for the info ♥

[@thecentralman]

​@@24GirlPandanot true, 2022+ CX5 2.5 NA has them. The pre facelift does not.

[@Zaku2077]

@@thecentralman yep you are correct. I wish AMD had mentioned this on his review of the 2023 CX5 because his review had basically convinced me to go with one over a Toyota, since the Mazda dealers were willing to work with the price a bit. I don’t know if I would have purchased the vehicle if I had known. I stick to 5k mile oil changes so I hope that preserves my engine even with the cylinder deactivation.

[@blackwatch7151]

I had a 2014 V6 Accord. Amazing engine. Got between 6-7 litres per 100 with it. I put 300,000 kms on it and it’s at almost 500,000 kms now with the second owner. I would definitely buy this Pilot over the Grand Highlander and it’s turbo.

[@lbjonfire]

7 litres ? Are you kidding us? If not then wonderful 😅

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

The Highlander I4 Light Turbo will outlast the crappy Honda V6 at least three to one. The Honda V6 uses a rubber timing chain. When it goes the engine blows. When the water pump goes out the engine blows. There is no port injection so the engine will carbon up. The Honda V6 is famous for oil consumption and dead cylinders. I4 engines actually last much longer than V6s.

[@firefly9838]

@@user-tb7rn1il3q I have a V6 Highlander but I've heard the Toyota 4 turbos are having issues

[@slalomking]

What is these Litre 🎉stuff. We deal in mpg !!! Just kidding

[@blackwatch7151]

@@slalomkingI think you Yanks are the only ones who do mpg?

[@saiyan2525]

There’s a smart VCM deactivator that tricks coolant temperature so the the deactivation doesn’t happen. If the coolant overheats it lets the actual readings through.

[@brickafide]

Thank you for all your time and effort as always!

[@frankiethefrog1752]

Gave money and the guy couldn’t even take 10 seconds to say thanks? Pretty pathetic IMO.

[@thugblaster303]

I follow a honda tech on KZbin, he constantly shows the 1.5 turbos blowing head gaskets. The previous generation pilots transmissions go out. My brother had a pilot with the bad transmission. My younger brother has a civic that the ac compressor keeps going out. Honda has been replacing it under warranty but still an issue. Because of that I decided to stay with Toyota when my 2008 Yaris had low compression on cylinder #2. It still runs so I gave it to my pops to drive around town.

[@KPHVAC]

My 2010 Honda Accord V6 EX-L has been fantastic to own for over a decade. At 175,000 miles I'm finally looking at a repair for the cylinder deactivaton system and some small leaks.

[@TheProtagonist_777]

I'd bypass the cylinder deactivation. I did on my 2011 Odyssey and I'm happy I did.

[@jaysully7516]

Yeah I did the same with my 09 Pilot, VCMuzzler for the win@@TheProtagonist_777

[@andrew881000]

@@TheProtagonist_777how do you do that?

[@spiceyfrenchtoast9421]

Vcm muzzler ​@@andrew881000

[@fanxing1018]

LOL that's me. My 2010 Honda Accord V6 EX-L has about 70,000 miles now and I recently discovered S-VCM controller and am looking forward to installing this device to prevent my car from burning oil.

[@mykola5669]

About camera washers! On our Pilot 23 model the back washer is a BEAST! Whenever I am backing up and the camera is dirty, this little guy clears it up with one spray and I am rear parking like a boss. It was so much hustle before on our previous CRV with no washer. I really appreciate this camera washer.

[@kkhhlee]

Finally you make a video about Honda pilot that I been waiting for. Thank you!!!!

[@danstefancic8414]

Had a 2010 with severe engine problems due to engine deactivation mechanism fouling up the spark plugs due to oil filling the deactivated cylinder(s). Will never again get cylinder deactivating car, or a car with timing belt. Great review!

[@UAkovalchuk]

I wanted either a pilot or a grandhighlander but i ended up buying the grandhighlander with 2.4 turbo i just feel like its more reliable yes it does have a turbo but that the only thing i have to worry about it has no timing belts no direct injection no cylinder deactivation system!!

[@tails300]

The 2.4 T24A-FTS 4cylinder is GDI/port.

[@BetGimel]

I really appreciate his straight forward approach to going first to the engine details and the undercarriage because these are essential rather than aesthetics and lesser important features.

[@howlingwolf125y]

Pretty good SUV.. But wish they would'a given it a traditional shifter (instead of push button).. I just like shifting with a traditional shifter much better..

[@bigwave_dave8468]

It's a bit odd at first but after a few days of driving, I didn't think about it. Nice benefit is better access to center console which is great in this car.

[@magnoliap5824]

Agree, can’t stand paddle shifters.

[@bigwave_dave8468]

@@magnoliap5824 im not sure why it even has them. once in a blue moon you might want to override auto but its already got electric “sport”,”towing” and “trail” modes which seem to shift the up/downshift points along the power curve. in any case, they don’t get in the way.

[@d.o.5238]

@@bigwave_dave8468 I'd use them to downshift and use engine braking going downhill. I wish my 1st gen Pilot had those, shifting its old-school gear lever on the steering column is less convenient than paddles. And you do need that when driving in the mountains. A few weeks ago going down from Pikes Peak, I saw (and smelled) a car ahead of me that was on the brakes almost all the time to the point it even started smoking. Lucky for him, there was a brake check station a thousand feet ahead where every car got stopped and its brake temps were checked, so he got sent to a parking lot to cool them off

[@72151]

I have learned to respect what AMD’s opinions are on any vehicle based on watching him for years now. His presentations are the best I’ve ever seen by anyone, this coming from an old F4 Phantom crew chief.

[@rhettsmedia]

We chose the pilot touring over the Toyota grand highlander, because the second row was far superior and the Honda pilot we got what we wanted it was maybe $15,000 cheaper than an equivalent Toyota grand highlander

[@dnah02]

Which trim of the grand highlander were you looking at? I'm 90 percent in for buying the limited grand highlander hybrid but come Dec 2024 if it's too hard to get I may just go Honda pilot trail sport or elite.

[@jerzs1363]

Is touring good? Fast? I have sorento now, how does it compare

[@yuriykorenyak2351]

@@jerzs1363 can say for Elite, which is the same Touring. It drives as a sporty car despite be a big SUV. Just put in Sport mode and you will be fast enough to challenge almost anybody on the road, except EV.

[@vasilerobitu5401]

@@jerzs1363 any issues with oil consumption?I have a 3.3. 2020 sorento with 36,000 miles and it started burning oil

[@LacDole]

I heard many stories of the VCM engine issues, but I never had issues with my 2012 Honda Crosstour, I had it for 95,000 miles without issues and was more than often running on 3 cylinders. My in-laws also had a 2017 Honda Odyssey and didn't have any issues either. Not sure what trigger that issue. I'm very happy that they brought back the full front center console though.

[@loualexander3408]

VCM can cause difference in the wear of the cylinders. When a neighboring cylinder is running it is obviously at a higher temperature than the ones that are not running. This can cause warping. Eventually, the piston rings start scraping on the block walls and the car starts burning oil. If you maintained your car properly (e.g. did regular oil changes with good oil and filters) this would not appear until about 100k miles. There are ways to deactivate the VCM and I have seen many people do so to preserve their engines. A slightly less important issue is the motor mounts and transmission mounts which are designed to be activated in a certain way when the VCM is active. They can wear off faster than regular motor mounts.

[@tomkatt2321]

It's actually a bit difficult to locate definitive proof that VCM causes major engine damage. My mechanic 'gut' tells me the idea is bad, and there are plenty of horror stories on the web, but try to find more than 1 or 2 stories from people who actually had issues is harder than you'd expect for something with such a bad public perception. That said, I did install a VCM defeat device (VCM Tuner II) in our '15 Pilot, and you'd never know any of that stuff was there. Good piece of mind for $130.

[@firebir11]

@@loualexander3408 very interesting, thanks

[@user-yx4on8hx4w]

@@loualexander3408this is one of my concerns. Correct me if wrong, but when the vcm kicks on and you have only 3cyl running it's either all 3 on one side or 2:1, either way without all cylinders running they're not counter-balancing eachother therefore creating more/diff vibrations in the motor which would then cause a motor mount vibration dampener to wear out quicker...is that what you're getting at?

[@jbeebo]

FYI, that vent in the front fascia exiting at the wheel arch leading edge ( 21:32 ) is not for the brakes, it creates a wind screen down the side of the car to prevent the tire wash from spoiling the aerodynamics. I.e. it lowers CdA and improves highway fuel efficiency.

[@petayV8]

The first gen Highlander also had a flat floor. Its super awesome

[@grouchosays]

It is also unavailable due to factory recall! Lol

[@antonioarroyas7662]

Love this review, the info about the new engine is gold! Talking a about the tensioner and other aspects of the new engine is stuff I've never seen anywhere else.

[@dskwared2u610]

It's the torque that affects the acceleration and AWD contributes a 20% reduction in performance to the wheels compared to 10% for FWD. I'm concerned about cylinder deactivation the most but I guess you could have it reprogrammed. I really like the style, functionality and serviceability. Some of my favorite vehicles have been Honda's.

[@richeyrich2203]

Can you though? Not to my knowledge. Just janky systems to install that change the vehicles reception of engine temp, which effects the cooling system function

[@asoganthangavellu6230]

Mr.AMD I most honestly appreciate your review on the Honda pilot, you’re a gem of a mechanic thank you kindly 🙏

[@comiser]

Been waiting for this for a long time

[@navinpersaud8962]

I just found your channel....this is the kind of reviews I really need when trying to purchase a new family vehicle. The info you provide is exactly what I want to know as a consumer.

[@timbui5556]

amazingly comprehensive real review, not sales pitch. Thank you!

[@narongchamkasem6758]

Man…. I have just found your channel by accident. This is the first review on the mechanics side of the car. Great explanation with lots of knowledge. Keep up the good work.

[@2006gtobob]

Thank you so much for going into depth concerning this revised engine. After a very bad VCM experience with my 2012 Accord, I became skeptical. After all the issues Honda is very aware of, they double down and get even more complicated and, in my opinion, stupid. I've owned four J series engines now, a J30 from 2006, which was excellent, no VCM. The J35 that blew up at 130,000, its replacement, and my current J35 with 71,000 on the clock. VCM is a bad deal. Maybe a 1 mpg gain while putting the engine at risk. It's no risk to Honda and their warranty, only for the owners that believed Honda used to mean quality. When my engine blew up due to VCM failure, I chalked it up to just being "one of those things" and I immediately bought a 2017 Accord V6 while my car was in the shop for a new engine. I should've bought a Lexus ES350 instead at the time. VCM is a ticking bomb and I don't recommend any Honda with it. (Edit) I have owned 7 Hondas since 1992. I have always been a fan until fairly recently. For peace of mind anymore if your plan is long term ownership from new is to just go with Toyota and Lexus.

[@jonnygarcia6181]

I love the honda pilot but my 2023 only 4k is in the shop cuz got shortblock engine problems with crazy clicking need to replace.

[@amhainen]

Thanks for the Honda video! May the Lord bless you and keep you!😊

[@frankiethefrog1752]

Second donation I saw that the dude couldn’t take the time out of his day to say thank you. Good KZbinr subpar person apparently.

[@amhainen]

@@frankiethefrog1752 Nah, he’s a good guy☺️! He’s busy with a full shop and 1M subscribers👍🏻! God bless his shop and channel!🙏🏼

[@revvolutions]

What I've come to expect from AMD, no bs, honest, detailed and to the point.

[@rpiian]

Nice to hear the big review for a car that I own! I personally love the car. Not in love with a few things that could go wrong (electronics, no port injection and timing belt), but overall I'm happy with it. Especially compared to the CX-90 which was our other choice.

[@dimav975]

Wat was wrong with CX-90?

[@ImportedFromSerbia]

@@dimav975 I would say nothing. Dashboard is nicer then Pilot. it is just perceptions that overall Honda is better car. I dont think so. Mazda has fantastic product and quality cars for last 7-8 yrs.

[@erikgonzalez2278]

This Honda makes me so happy to see beautiful engine bay and under! Honda still keeps rear independent suspension no excuse for others!!!

[@matrixist]

Still going with the Highlander, but the seats seemed much more comfortable in the Pilot.

[@loydlamberson8942]

This was the first time I watched an entire review, It was not really due the Vehicle, it was because of your detailed focused review of the entire Vehicle. I will be subscribing! Thank you for the review!

[@codylester9081]

Just bought an EX-L model, I was looking at Telluride until I watched your video. It kind of turned me away from it. Now I get to find out if I have made a terrible mistake 😅

[@codylester9081]

Just got to the end of the video, looks like it gets a thumbs up! I honestly love it, it’s by far the nicest vehicle I’ve ever had

[@davewilson7602]

@@codylester9081I got one identical to the one in the video, also definitely the nicest car I’ve had. I used to have German cars and it reminds me of them in a good way

[@bigwave_dave8468]

You're going to love it..we thought the EX-L trim was the sweet spot so that's what we got.

[@th003g]

Hope your roof doesn't leak, transmission doesn't shit the bed, ecm doesn't freak out. Those are some of the issues right now. They don't make em like they used to.

[@bigwave_dave8468]

@@th003g no sun roof :-)

[@drnick40]

The one single thing I love about buying a Honda is that they are trims and no options, so the dealers can’t screw you over that. Easy to shop around for what you want.

[@aaronh305]

Timing belts are a killer for me. For a high mileage/yr driver it adds a decent chunk of maintenance costs

[@BillyBobDingledorf]

I'm amazed they haven't gone with a chain. Also, on this motor, they used to have an internal water pump. They still might. I hope not.

[@slalomking]

@@BillyBobDingledorfthey still do, AMD said that. You change it when you change your belt

[@jameslee3960]

Been about 5 months with my Pilot and it’s just a great car in so many ways. There are so many cars to choose from in this category and I checked out most of them. I’m 10000% happy I went with the Pilot.

[@thewhitecarrot]

Looks like they did a great job. Too bad we still have ptsd from our 17 CRV with oil dilution which sent us to Toyota. We actually loved everything about our CRV. Fit and finish was great, awesome build quality but that 1.5T was a giant mistake IMO. 😢

[@josephschneider5000]

Yes the 1.5 Liter Turbo is one to avoid. Outside of Turbos you will have no concerns if you do your maintenance on other Hondas.

[@Deadlybroom]

@@stevenstrain283my 2017 Honda Civic EX-T has been completely problem free and performs as new! I only have 90,000 miles on it so far, but my commute is super short, engine typically doesn’t heat up all the way. My oil does definitely smells of fuel more strongly the closer I get to my 4,500 oil change interval. But, to be honest, my old CR-V with 300k miles had the same exact symptoms throughout my whole ownership experience. So, in my opinion, this engine seems solid enough, and you can’t complain about getting 40+mpg. People seem to blow the issue out of proportion.

[@JesusSaves827]

“Oil dilution” the new boogy man. 2018 CRV Touring 1.5 with 122k miles no issues. True it’s mostly highway. I go 7k-8k between oil changes.

[@Whateva67]

I just don’t trust a small 1.5 to be reliable in the long term,my old 92 Civic hatch with a 1.6. That car was light compared to the newer stuff of course but those lasted a long time.

[@danielgkorecki]

​@@stevenstrain283I'm not big fun of turbo but driving it for the first time I was surprised how gently you need to accelerate to pic up power. A lot of fun to drive I would want to own it with more than 100k.

[@Ogdin3]

My special oil filter spill containment is a Ziplock bag. 😊

[@sdfiske64]

The trick with changing the oil filter without getting any on the frame. Take a 1-quart Ziploc bag and put it around the oil filter. And slowly take the oil filter off and all the oil will get caught in the one quart Ziploc bag

[@user-yx4on8hx4w]

is there plenty of space to do so, or do you need to be a gymnast to get your hands up in that space?

[@edlee8949]

I own a 2003 Honda Pilot and it is still running great.

[@SuperDanlef]

I live in Ottawa and I can attest to how useful the front and rear camera washers are during the winter. That spray is enough to bring back proper visibility to both cameras.

[@cell8290]

How does the new Pilot compared to the new Toyota Grand Highlander? I guess in terms of reliability? I feel like a lot of shoppers would be stuck between these two SUVs.

[@jamesmiller7733]

I'm one of them. The new Traverse/Acadia as well.

[@almassengale]

One thing that could be an important factor in the decision is the fact that the Honda can be had in an eight passenger version in upper trim levels but the Grand Highlander can't.

[@cell8290]

Yes both true. But I still can't get over the fact that grand highlander XLE does not come with parking sensors as standard. Vehicle that big should have parking sensors as standard at XLE level by default lol I was almost insulted when they didn't give the sensors 😂

[@adrianidzik1585]

Biggest difference is that Highlander has a 4 cylinder turbo. Although, the newer turbos are better than the ones we had in the 80s, it’s still a concern.

[@reyperez3424]

@@adrianidzik1585 Nothing beats a N/A Honda engine reliability

[@davidhillbrand2302]

Nice to see a V6 instead of a turbo 4! Honda is hard to beat!

[@jimmywalters3071]

If this engine is as good as the engine that was in my 2004 Acura MDX... you will be good to go for 400,000 miles or more without any problems. I bought a Ridgeline vs many other pickups due to the trouble free 3.5 engine.

[@paulm6481]

Tacoma has better engine reliability.

[@michaelthomas9243]

No. Honda makes the best engines in the world. The Tacoma has better transmission reliability.@@paulm6481

[@andrew881000]

@@paulm6481not with the turbos coming out

[@Mike_44]

Both my neighbors got this car, love it!

[@davidoliver6597]

Just a note, the paddle shifters, if you think about it, are more for controlling gear selection in a multi-speed Automatic. If you want to hold 3rd or 4th gear or 7th or 8th gear, you would have no way of doing it without the paddles.

[@ericgroves2568]

Had mine about 6 months now. 10K miles, zero issues. Glad I did it, although the new 2024 Lexus GX 550 is haunting my thoughts. Lord grant me strength…

[@richeyrich2203]

What kind of gas Milagros are you getting?

[@ericgroves300]

23-24 miles per gallon. Not the best, but certainly not the worst I’ve had.

[@Iwo26]

What I like about this engine is the fact that there is no turbo and no hybrid. I keep my vehicles for long time and this is very appealing to me.

[@drsg9124]

Cylinder Deactivation can be defeated in previous Honda V6's pretty easily. I'm sure it's possible on this one too

[@davewilson7602]

Yep you can buy a device online for $50, plug and play if you don’t want VCM.

[@MrRusoloco]

Which device and where to buy it. thanks@@davewilson7602

[@bzrkr842]

​@@davewilson7602 won't that void the warranty?

[@grouchosays]

@@bzrkr842I bet it would

[@dennisbui8525]

Man...I don't know how I found your review but I am about to buy a New Pilot. I already own a 2010 Pilot but it's time to get a knew one for reliability and dependable out of town trips. This is an indepth review and exactly what I need to reassure myself to get a knew one. Thank you for your works and experiences in this field . May god bless you and your family.

[@YourLocalFireAlarmTech]

Im really wanting to get one but I hope they find a loophole to turn off CYL Deactivation because there is nothing but issues with those kinds of systems. Also not a fan of the shifter, but other than those 2 this is a clear winner for me, because others in this class are going for turbo 4 cylinders, and I dont want those lol. Literally choosing this over a Highlander because of that. Plus it looks great! Nice Aggressive muscular look to it.

[@curiosityredpill7030]

What about cx90 ?

[@paulm6481]

CX90 six cylinder trim is turbo charged. This Honda is naturally aspirated engine.

[@YourLocalFireAlarmTech]

@@curiosityredpill7030 Yeah what he said^ The CX90 is really nice for sure. But I don't want turbos. I don't want to deal with the maintenance

[@curiosityredpill7030]

@@YourLocalFireAlarmTech Okay that’s understandable they do have a phev version also ,

[@c0r8d877]

There is a button to do it but it has to be pressed every time the engine is turned on.

[@dwnshftuphll]

Would love to see the new Ridgeline featured on the channel. Great video as always 💯

[@bigwave_dave8468]

I've got one of these in the EX-L trim. After 7600 miles, so far no complaints. We needed a capable snow driving car, not high-clearance with trail-tires. It's not lacking power at all. Highway mileage is much better than expected at speed -- I averaged 23-24 mpg on a recent 1000 mile road trip on the west coast driving at "brisk"speeds over 65-75 the whole way in "eco-mode". Very comfortable, quiet, ride and a fantastic road trip machine. Brakes are huge and amazing. This car is pretty big - it feels and drives wider and bigger than Subaru Ascent and Toyota Highlander (my other candidates before buying) --it's the widest of the three. 3Rd row is comfortable for adults. I'd say ride is firm and comfortable not plush/squishy. Very little body roll when cornering. Adaptive cruise is very useful for highway driving, esp. the "follow" function but algorithm could use some tweaking as it won't hold the lane on a moderately high-g sweeping curve at highway speeds.

[@yenbbc8840]

i'm thinking of the EX-L trim. it has everything i need and i don't want that mega sized moon roof that i will never use that comes standard with the touring and elite. my 2014 ridgeline and 2011 acura rl have them and we never use them. we just lost our 2010 pilot touring in an accident. 125k miles well maintained. i did bypass the vcm but not until around 100k miles.

[@loualexander3408]

Good deal. My 2008 Honda Pilot EX-L does not have the cylinder deactivation. When I drive around 65mph I get about 22mpg. I take off the roof rack, inflate the tires properly and always have good oil and transmission fluids. Oh, I also took out the 2nd and 3rd row seats to make the car lighter as I don't really need them on a daily basis.

[@melyente2948]

I have the 2004 honda pilot have 330 miles on it still drives great even on snowy winter.

[@shipdog44]

I have the 2019 Passport Elite and get better MPG with ECO Mode off.

[@BillyBobDingledorf]

With 7600 miles, your car is brand new. My (not Honda, but I like Honda) has 50K on it and still feels new. My other car (also not Honda) has 140K on it and doesn't feel new, but still drives better than many cars today.

[@BackDoor_Adventurer]

Thank You, I asked for this, and you delivered!! Hope it was done sooner though as i had bought mine in May 2023 but it is still greatly appreciated. I had a few major problems in the first few hundred miles but has been good so far currently at 6k Miles (Drive with idle stopper off).

[@jonathanKog]

hahaha that idle stopper is annoying. it wouldn’t take that long to wait until the green light comes on at the traffic light. i turn it off b4 i drive.. i got the lowest trim in Pilot the sport but that was rare color. the Black pearl, full black even the rims. 😅 but my wife using the suv and im still driving my old school town car 😅

[@puma51921]

Have zero interest in a mid-size SUV with a 4cyl . I'm glad Honda and other company's know people want a 6 cylinder for their SUV

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

I have no interest in an overhead cam crasher with a timing belt and DI only.

[@CoreyErnst]

I'm looking to buy an MDX relatively soon. Been watching lots of reviews, but this one focuses on what I'm interested in...ease of maintenance. loved it!

[@carlosjtorres315]

I'm also interested in the newer Acura MDX. Wonder if this mechanics review on the Pilot applies to the MDX as well. Any feedback will be appreciated

[@quazimoto5241]

Me three! I went from an Accord to a TLX a few years ago and need a bigger car now. I think I've been spoiled by Acura luxury but I hear the MDX and Pilot are nearly the same. One thing to note is that they've completely redesigned the MDX for 2025. It looks a lot more like a crossover/wagon now

[@kevinthant2952]

Overall a nice vehicle but I have concerns about reliability in VCM, carbon build up from direct injection and 10 speed transmission that is relatively new to big SUVs like Pilot and MDX. Honda could have intentionally designed their engine better for reliability through the use of both port and direct injection, and optionally allow the users to turn off VCM like engine auto on/off button while still satisfying emission requirements.

[@koolxxxyear]

Yes. I’d trust his opinions & I’m a retired tech for 3 yrs. I’ve seen enough new cars & trucks in my life time since 1980. What I noticed was this, consumers want new fancy gadgets, refined everything, something they can brag about. So manufacturers want consumers to buy toys they are proud of. It doesn’t matter if it’s proven or not. Competition drives the car makers to get fancy but it creates more problems & failures. At the end, the consumers are paying the “price”, Not once but over and over. Now, some consumers are complaining why new cars are so expensive? One reason is they want safety but drive like an idiot or can’t drive at all since new cars can drive themselves. Reason 2, to have something to brag about? They have to pay more!