Excellent information. I have a Dec 1975 Pogue, which has been my everyday watch since June 1976 (original owner, 8th grade graduation gift). My Pogue is still all original, but during it’s last service 8 months ago (see Blair Watch Project Channel on KZbin) it had two more jewels added to the upper and lower arbor port of the main spring, which is the weakness of the Seiko movement. With the new jewels, it can now run technically forever as a long it gets serviced. My watch is running 3-4 +/- per day now. Keep up on the good video content. I enjoy watching your videos.
@aravpanwar24312 ай бұрын
cool
@cj1000 Жыл бұрын
These speedtimers were very popular among navigators for the U.S. military in the Vietnam era. We have one in a display case at the officers’ club at NAS Whidbey Island, which was one of the two primary bases for the A-6 Intruder, aircraft and crews.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Yep, someone at my work messaged to say his Dad had one in Vietnam.
@Allan-es2hzАй бұрын
I have had a 6139 Bruce Lee since 1972 as a Christmas present and its been serviced recently and runs great. My current crop of restored 6139 models is growing rapidly as I love these chronographs.
@CasualWatchReviewsАй бұрын
Hey Allen, I think you will really enjoy our livestreams. One of the panel guest’s Tod collects these specific models and has dozens of them.
@Allan-es2hzАй бұрын
@@CasualWatchReviews thanks for the reply. My 6139-6xxx models and now my 6119-6xxx collection is also growing rapidly.
@CasualWatchReviewsАй бұрын
He is @seiko_tod on instagram, he would probably love to hear from you,
@carllange3950 Жыл бұрын
This chronograph was designed for actually timing events. It has a 30 minute timing sub-dial, instead of a hard to read 60 minute sub-dial. The lack of hacking is not a problem since there is no running seconds hand anyway. No hand winding is a reasonable trade-off considering the innovative functioning of the crown.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@ssnydess67874 ай бұрын
I love this informational review and my automatic 60139 that got me through pilot training in the USAF for over 20 years of accurate timing! Funny, but it was considered a pilot "big watch" in the early seventies but wasn't that big. After being my fav watch in the AF and Army aviation, it langiused after stopping. Due to do a good job of timing. A few years ago, I had it rebuilt and timed. Well worth the investment, I frequently wear it for it's classic good looks and perfect time keeping. Astounding that I paid $65 for it new from a Viet Nam vet coming come.
@CasualWatchReviews4 ай бұрын
Wow that was a cool story to share! Very much appreciated, glad you like the upload. I will pin this comment to the top.
@cherishedtimewatches7235 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I have always been a big fan of Seiko and it was the trilogy of Seiko, Bulova and Citizen that start my watch obsession. I had no idea that the crown of this model had the functionality that it had. As you know I already purchased the modern speedtimer based upon your video. Its snowing here so perhaps its a good time to make a cup of tea and research the model further. Well done!
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks Al! Yep I love them both, the new and vintage one!
@CamiloHPNunes7 ай бұрын
Iam new to thw chanel but one thing I must say, this guy really know what he is talking about. Hes right on the mark about everything said on this video.
@CasualWatchReviews7 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel! Thanks for watching
@sneakyscorpia Жыл бұрын
Looking at my modern solar Speedtimer and then back at yours - it's incredible the heritage, evolution and change watches go through yet at the same time the older ones stay relevant and totally cool. Thanks for sharing!
@barrettwbenton7 ай бұрын
I'm only coming across this video close to a year after its creation, but it's probably the best overview of Seiko's 6139 I've seen thus far. I was lucky enough to come across a fairly clean and unmolested 6139 "blue eye" over a decade ago, and love it possibly more than the day it arrived - at the time, it was still in the realm of "affordable classics", particularly in regard to mechanical chronographs. (They're still cheaper than, say, a modern-day Prospex Speedtimer, but not be nearly as wide a margin as when I bought mine.) One point regarding servicing: I'm not sure if this is still the case, but when I enquired two years ago, Seiko was still listing the 6139 among the watch movements they still serviced, and that's where I sent mine for a once-over (I'm lucky to live not crazy-far from their US HQ here in New Jersey), and at a very reasonable price. As far as the whole "who's on first?" debate, the consensus is shaping up that. based on the metric of serial production - rather than simply making a press announcement - Seiko, not Zenith, was indeed first with the 6139, which is rather amazing when you consider that Seiko was *also* simultaneously working on both the *6138* chronograph (which came along a bit later), *and* the watch that ultimately brought the Swiss watch industry practically to its knees…the Astron quartz. (Mind you, I'm not out to slag Zenith here - the El Primero movement is a true tour de force in its own right.) Also: you mention the 6139 example in your video as having a sapphire crystal…unless that's an aftermarket add-on, that's probably *not* sapphire, and likely not even Hardlex (which Seiko came up with some years later, if I'm not mistaken). My 6139 came with a high-grade plastic crystal, which was pretty much the material of choice at the time (Omega Speedmaster, anyone?), which is more than good enough.
@CasualWatchReviews7 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for adding all that extra detail. I am usually joined by a seiko collector who have over 30 of these. If you eve see a live pop up on a Sunday at 4:30pm eastern. Let us know in the comments and we can talk about these great seikos.
@starfluke11 ай бұрын
Superb review of the favorite vintage from my collection. It came to me in ‘72 from my uncle in the Air Force for high school graduation. It was on my wrist for every girlfriend through the 70s. It timed ventilator cycles during my anesthesia residency. Finally it went into a terminal spin when I pressed the stopwatch in 1982. I set it aside for a Casio I thought more suitable for hard knocks in the operating room. l FOOLISHLY lost track of it. Mine was a 6139-6010 with its blue dial, 39mm diameter, slimmer cushion case and no internal rotating bezel. The smaller size was perfect for my 7” wrist. About 10 years ago I replaced it with an identical one on Ebay. It’s not QUITE the same as my original, but I’m different too, 40 years later.
@CasualWatchReviews11 ай бұрын
What a cool story! Thanks for watching and adding that!
@starfluke11 ай бұрын
@@CasualWatchReviews My wife gave me a Hesalyte Speedy on our 40th in 2020. I will never part with it. But I was wearing my 6139-6010 when we married now 43 years ago. When I want to feel young again I put the Speedy in its fancy box, set the time, date and day on the 6139 and snap on that stamped Seiko bracelet. It still feels right. Maybe it’s really 1978.
@Supercruze Жыл бұрын
Great vid segment Sam. Well documented and produced as usual. Thanks for what you do for the WIS community.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Very much appreciated! Thank you!
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
This was a very well researched and executed review.. Thank you!
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Cheers! Yep I had a few people check it over before I posted it to make sure!
@therealshaft9768Ай бұрын
My father gave me his pogue watch that was given to him as a kid in 1975. The watch is engraved with my fathers name and year and from whom given it to him. It has not ran in 20+ years and i just took it to my local jewler they opened it and looked at it and said it only needed a cleaning aka servicing and they would have to send it out to be serviced and crystal swapped. They quoted me 6 weeks and will cost an estimated $180. Only thing i need to find is a original strap/band as my dad wore it on a custom stering silver band
@cedarcanoe Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Not only do I own the exact same 6139-6002 but (although I own 4 other 6139 references) the case design of the Pogue watches is the best Seiko ever made.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Yes totally agree! I’m surprised they have not had a go at reissuing it
@cedarcanoe Жыл бұрын
@@CasualWatchReviews the re-issue queueing line at Seiko is very long :-)
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Yes and it consists of another 50 versions of the 62MAS 😂😂
@speedmaster6781 Жыл бұрын
@cedarcanoe I agree. I have this reference and it is timeless. I also have a vintage Speedmaster and I rate the 6139 - 6002 just as highly. Plus it is an auto chronograph. Ahead of its time!!
@Allan-es2hzАй бұрын
Such a great watch, the column wheel clutch in the movement was ahead of it's time.
@djordjejovic18194 ай бұрын
100% true. That is why we, Seiko lovers, search for 6139 and 6138 rather than new chronographs.
@Sashko_Dee6 ай бұрын
This watch features prominently in an episode of Columbo. It is central to the plot and we even get a close up shot of it.
@CasualWatchReviews6 ай бұрын
I loved Columbo as a Kid! I need to look for that!
@HungryHumbucker7 ай бұрын
I agree, these are criminally underrated. I've managed to get a Pogue that was given to an employee of Rohr Inc aerospace company, which is a nice little space connection. My Cevert and Coke bezel Seiko 5 Speedtimer are in remarkable condition. I love all three dearly.
@drwindsurf Жыл бұрын
The timing on this is remarkable Sam...I have been waffling on buying a Pogue and I think you just pushed me over the edge 🙂👍
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Do it!!!
@drwindsurf Жыл бұрын
@@CasualWatchReviews Thanks Sam
@lfcmarkeb7124 Жыл бұрын
be careful and thorough with investigations 👍, process y and condition varies wildly, don't know if was a misprint, but saw one recently advertised at 10k+😳🙄
@andrewbarnes58022 ай бұрын
Great video. Wished I'd seen this 3-weeks ago before I attended an antique fair. Had a blue version with Pepsi dial in my hand but the watch and bracelet were in such poor condition I passed. Wish I hadn't now. Instead, bought an old Rolex for my daughter. What a mistake that turned out to be. Next time...
@CasualWatchReviews2 ай бұрын
Hey Andrew. Here is a lot to the condition of these, plenty of ‘frankenwatches’. One of my regular panel guests on the livestream is actually somewhat of an expert in this specific model. The origional bracelets on these are awful but you can buy plenty of aftermarket,
@ichris201111 ай бұрын
Adding to the point of serviceability, these things used excellent sealing technology and can almost always be brought back to their original water resistance. Unless you have a REALLY rough example with pitting on the sealing surfaces, chances are after replacing the gaskets you’ll have your full 70m water resistance again. Incredibly the crystal gaskets also almost never need to be replaced. Seiko really seemed interested in making things that last during this era, and they were definitely flexing that with the 6139. Would love to know the names of some of the people involved in the designing/engineering of them
@bvon56308 ай бұрын
As far as I know, 6139 is an engineering marvel. If I’ve got my information right, it has a very complex ingenious clutch system on the main stem of the hands. Is that right?
@johnwheat51998 ай бұрын
I totally agree, it's not only a great Seiko, it's one of the greatest chronographs ever made, by anyone!
@CasualWatchReviews8 ай бұрын
Yep! Totally, I normally get a lot of views on my seiko stuff but this one struggles, probably because I’m most proud of it 😂
@PocketWatchTime Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Looks like I need to find a vintage Seiko for the collection.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Yes you do!
@Bob.martens Жыл бұрын
I never knew these had an inner rotating bezel! Does it stay in place when worn? None of the inner rotating bezels of my Alpinists do, but who cares:)
@justme3076 ай бұрын
In 1970 the JDM Speedtimer was 18,000 Yen which was $50.
@christopherjohnson4276 Жыл бұрын
I finally put my SSC815 on a blue sail cloth strap. Much more comfortable than the supplied bracelet.
@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv4 ай бұрын
If the watch has been sat in a draw for a few days and you want to get it running, do you have to shake it gently to get it running?
@CasualWatchReviews4 ай бұрын
Yes that’s right, your swirl it in your hand like you would with a glass of wine.
@fakenewsisthenews3542 Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine a Seiko 5 nowadays having an automatic chronograph? An auto chrono is a serious luxury now.
@richbonn25911 ай бұрын
Beautiful macro work.....might i ask what camera and lens you're using? Are some of the shots digital zooms, or are you able to get this close optically? I use a full frame sony with a vintage Pentax 50 macro. Even though it is the first version that was 1:1, it cannot get this close.....that's why i ask. Thjanks
@CasualWatchReviews11 ай бұрын
Hey Rick, its actually a dedicated super macro 4x - 4.5x lens, its by zhongyi got it from B&H photo
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
These have gotten very pricey, I managed to locate a near mint condition somewhat overlooked Seiko Helmet for $400 a few years back and am very pleased with it.
@wilsonsantos38412 күн бұрын
Sachs Vintage watch - How can I get his contact, website? Thanks
@renzoalessi5151 Жыл бұрын
Hola, tengo un 6139-7080 del año 1974, no es igual pero me encanta también y como dices a pesar del tiempo camina estupendo y claro es lindo
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Hello! Thanks for watching. That is also a nice watch!
@fakenewsisthenews3542 Жыл бұрын
Love the video and the watches. However a little slip, they didn't use a sapphire crystal. You probably know that already though. :)
@larrybouligny4352 Жыл бұрын
Well done Sam!
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks Larry! Thanks again for all the support over the years!
@TinBin-Craig Жыл бұрын
classis watches i remember them in the early 80s cheers good review...
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Cheers Craig!
@jackmcclary2136 Жыл бұрын
The version with the silver dial is the least common and very eye catching. I’ve been fortunate enough to collect the silver, gold and blue versions. The number of people who don’t know how to quick set the date on their 6139 is amazing.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Yep, it’s really innovative. Did any one else ever adopt it as a standard for setting the date?
@jackmcclary2136 Жыл бұрын
@@CasualWatchReviews I’ve also seen the opposite where pulling the crown advances the date but can’t recall at the moment which movement that was. It almost feels like movements have been “dumbed down” under the guise of reliability but the real reason is production economics. Not sure whether you are on WatchCrunch but if so I’m posting 30 Seikos in 30 days including three 6139s and a 6138 that are already up. Reach out if you want to feature any of them on your channel.
@andrew_owens7680 Жыл бұрын
I'm having a hard time justifying a Seiko addition to my collection. The pricing has gone up so fast that they are beginning to compete with other brands that may be equal or better value. However, I continue to search.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
You can still get really good deals on the sites in Japan
@andrew_owens7680 Жыл бұрын
@@CasualWatchReviews My quandary is whether to get the top end of Seiko or the bottom end of GS or some other brand.
@MichaelAguila Жыл бұрын
Clickbait? 😮 Cool video. Do you think Seiko is somehow scared to reissue these or is it just a matter of time?
@camberwellcarrot420 Жыл бұрын
So, what I take from your adjusted for inflation statements is that there's less than $500 of value in their new chronographs, and a more than $2500 watch collector excess profits tax tacked on. That, plus the new ones are, um, well let's just say bereft of pulchritude.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Yep, for some reason 40 years worth of mechanical innovation resulted in a less iconic watch for 6 times the price 😂
@douggillespie36774 ай бұрын
Need my Blue Pouge serviced, do you have contact information for someone
@Allan-es2hzАй бұрын
Only Pogues were yellow, the Cerverts had the deep blue dial.
@philliprackow7153 Жыл бұрын
The modern speedtimers also lack in the finishing department, at least compared to this one. You'd have to go up to their 2500-3000 dollar range to get something better than this.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Good point there!
@Bob.martens Жыл бұрын
How much was an omega Speedmaster in 1969?
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
In 1977, the speedmaster sold for $250
@dazkurt23318 ай бұрын
100 dollars in 1973 worth today more like 700.
@Bob.martens Жыл бұрын
Adjusting for inflation my a××. How much $ was a speedy, or any other chrono, in 1969 is the real question...
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Hey Bob, I added it in the review. They were $100, you can see it in the advert I found from the time also
@Bob.martens Жыл бұрын
@@CasualWatchReviews I meant: how much was a Speedmaster in 1969, that is the real comparison. The inflatocalcultor only tells you how muchh a 100$ loaf would cost now, not a watch.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Oh interesting how does does that differ? I used an inflation calculator online. It’s about the worth of $100 in todays money?
@watchnut5305 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's sapphire crystal.
@CasualWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
No I don’t think it is either.
@stonedog10006 ай бұрын
Hardlex, Seiko treated glass. Kind of a pain in the a--. Soft enough to scratch; hard enough to require cerium oxide or diamond paste to polish.