Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Jagdpanzer IV, Pt 2.

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The Chieftain

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@luksweam
@luksweam 4 жыл бұрын
As one of those whining previously about the excessively loud _lovely_ _WG_ _music_ , I would like to express my gratitude for making it less loud and therefore more bearable. Thank you!
@iain075
@iain075 4 жыл бұрын
s k well said sir
@samholdsworth3957
@samholdsworth3957 4 жыл бұрын
Preach!!!!
@MrBigCookieCrumble
@MrBigCookieCrumble 4 жыл бұрын
**Tests how easy it is to escape the vehicle** **Doesn't say "Oh bugger the tank is on fire"** _My disapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined_
@FLJBeliever1776
@FLJBeliever1776 4 жыл бұрын
Well... Commander, Gunner, and Loader have it easy. Driver not so much. Though with a Fuel Tank INSIDE the Fighting Compartment, I don't think there would be much of a 'Oh bugger the tank is on fire' moment. The crew probably were already KFC'ed.
@swright5690
@swright5690 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!1. Very disappointed! I can't believe he didn't do this!
@cm275
@cm275 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a tank and "oh bugger the jagdpanzer is on fire" doesn't have the same ring to it.
@BigPuddin
@BigPuddin 4 жыл бұрын
*muffled sounds of tall Irishman's jeans rustling against metal in a futile bid to escape Nazi murder coffin*
@barelyasurvivor1257
@barelyasurvivor1257 Жыл бұрын
Mine too.
@catfish552
@catfish552 4 жыл бұрын
"You got your periscope..." [block of wood haphazardly wedged in with hardware store screws]
@Masada1911
@Masada1911 4 жыл бұрын
Oi. That is a highly engineered quality made German block of wood with the best hardware store screws in the world.
@Masada1911
@Masada1911 4 жыл бұрын
Bad Cattitude good question that :-p
@kstreet7438
@kstreet7438 4 жыл бұрын
@Bad Cattitude yes it comes with the special tool to fix it which is also not present.
@christiangeiselmann
@christiangeiselmann 4 жыл бұрын
Bad Cattitude Indeed I know a specialised screw store in Sofia, Bulgaria.
@shawncarroll5255
@shawncarroll5255 4 жыл бұрын
@Bad Cattitude There's GOOD cattitude?!?
@scipioafricanus6417
@scipioafricanus6417 4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas is smiling the entire video, either he just had a good day or he has something really funny to hide.
@jms1hbv
@jms1hbv 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the bloopers from previous video :D The best!
@KaladinVegapunk
@KaladinVegapunk 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I mean, in the panzer 4 video when he's talking to that great old dude, the guy mentions he's super fond of the jagdpanzer and Nick starts cracking up then too and says why?? Hahaha So I think he just thinks the tank is a janky mess, with a cool design, like most of the german tanks
@Ethnarches
@Ethnarches 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaladinVegapunk I just rewatched that video, Hilary Doyle's favourite tank was the Jagdpanther, not the Jagdpanzer IV.
@shart4429
@shart4429 2 жыл бұрын
I've always liked the low profile of the jagdpanzer and the stug. Really good looking tanks.
@JagerLange
@JagerLange 4 жыл бұрын
MG42 in one hand, PaK39 in the other. That's quite the dual-wield.
@DrLoverLover
@DrLoverLover 4 жыл бұрын
MG42
@JagerLange
@JagerLange 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrLoverLover You're right, I wasn't paying enough attention before. Corrected.
@loke72
@loke72 4 жыл бұрын
Rambo move over its a new guy in town.
@skodalaskoda8754
@skodalaskoda8754 4 жыл бұрын
I thought most vehicles ran the mg34
@DeHerg
@DeHerg 4 жыл бұрын
@@loke72 Well in Rambo 3 he did operate a soviet tank all by himself (incl main gun as well as coaxial).
@UkrainianPaulie
@UkrainianPaulie 4 жыл бұрын
Bet the Commander ate that mount for the Scissors binocular optic a few times.
@Wolvenworks
@Wolvenworks 4 жыл бұрын
bet one of them kissed it like a french
@paavobergmann4920
@paavobergmann4920 4 жыл бұрын
Safe work environment and crew ergonomics weren´t exactly high on the list of priorities in ANY WWII vehicles....especially tanks provide an astonishing variety of metal edges to bang your head in when going cross country.
@DeosPraetorian
@DeosPraetorian 3 жыл бұрын
@@paavobergmann4920 I mean didn't they delay the 76 mm gun version of the Sherman because of bad ergonomics with the original turret
@clothar23
@clothar23 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeosPraetorian If nothing else the Americans at least gave and still give something of a damn for their service personnel. It's not exactly Mother Teresa feeding the masses but still. They're not the Russians at the very least who don't do wet stowage and decided the turret ring was the best place to shove ammo into.
@galtur5241
@galtur5241 4 жыл бұрын
Geting out of that driver seat looks like a good workout :D
@Count_Gustav
@Count_Gustav 4 жыл бұрын
You've got to understand that kid screaming at the end, I too would screaming in Tank Museum.
@atanarjuat6525
@atanarjuat6525 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for keeping the music low or non existent.
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! More isolation entertainment
@antifacisme
@antifacisme 4 жыл бұрын
Did you Brits not just go into isolation/quarantine? Boris is slow af
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 4 жыл бұрын
Lebowski boris is a bumbling fuckwit, and it’s ‘social distancing’ not full isolation yet 🤦🏻‍♂️
@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius 4 жыл бұрын
I love the info but it does take away some of the mystique of armor battles. When I was young and thought less of the death and loss of war, tanks where “cool” and I drooled over them like muscle cars. Now I feel they are like adventures. Nasty, disturbing uncomfortable things which make one late for dinner.
@seanmalloy7249
@seanmalloy7249 4 жыл бұрын
Reality has a way of doing that. I remember growing up with war movies like "Twelve O'Clock High" showing the flight crew in their B-17... when I finally was able to go inside the one the Collins Foundation preserves, I was amazed at how _tiny_ it was inside; the movie made it look like there was all kinds of room in the plane, and they were actually jammed together fairly tightly. Having to make the set big enough to let them move the camera forced them to take some liberties with the actual interior. The Chieftain's videos have given me a better perspective on the difference between "real life" and "reel life".
@BillHalliwell
@BillHalliwell 4 жыл бұрын
G'day Andrew, I know what you're saying. I'm an Air Force type and truly love the design beauty of the Spitfire, of course; the Vulcan, the EE Canberra; the ME-262, the P51D and many more. It's too easy to separate their visual appeal with the fact that their job was to kill other aircraft and drop bombs on targets. The odd thing about military aircraft is that if they looked 'good' they also, almost without exception, flew well and were 'good' at the job of destruction. Cheers, BH
@Cheezymuffin.
@Cheezymuffin. 4 жыл бұрын
@@BillHalliwell I think that is because humans like airodynamic shapes, as they resemble animals that addapted to be fast (birds, dolphins) we love nature. Therefore planes that are very airodynamic, and logically made, often are beautiful because they resemble nature in some way. And because they resemble birds or dolphins, they can move and fly better than something that resembles a kite or a brick.
@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Halliwell Interesting point on “look good, fly well”. Makes me wonder why armor design did not include sloped method considering the idea of slope over depth was well known in regards to the removal of corners in fortifications and replacement with rounded battlements.
@BillHalliwell
@BillHalliwell 4 жыл бұрын
@@MasterMalrubius G'day Andrew, yes, that's an excellent point because the design of ancient fortifications in relation to projectile penetration was understood not long after the invention of the catapult and then the cannon. Mark Felton's new video, 'The Tiger's Dad' just covered the first tank that the Germans made in 1918. It was almost a carbon copy of the British tank; right angles all over. Destroyed by the Allies in 1919, that tank still influenced the early 1930s German tanks. It took a comparatively long time for the concept of angular armour to be adopted by all countries. Very odd. Cheers, BH
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 4 жыл бұрын
"This is _inconvenient._ I'll leave it at that." Gold. :)
@ohlordy2042
@ohlordy2042 4 жыл бұрын
Having the transmission and final drive behind the sloped, frontal armour seems problematic (full stop). I gather more than a few Panthers were also lost because of the difficulty of changing a failed final drive in the field.
@paavobergmann4920
@paavobergmann4920 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohlordy2042 Also Pz III. It´s a nightmare. You need to pull the turret. No, really.
@AvengerBB1
@AvengerBB1 3 жыл бұрын
Alright, I'm going to admit that I have played WoT, but normally I'm not overly interested in tanks in general. I started watching ItCH the other day and have been binging them and any other Chieftan video that pops up. I just love how he handles the subject matter. Straight forward, to the point, and with a little humor here and there. I think I will be continuing my binge now!
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
I glommed onto WG's early post as soon as it aired, but I gotta watch your post, too, Major Nick. /Respect.
@jimmyelsewhere5241
@jimmyelsewhere5241 4 жыл бұрын
In the first minute or so, note the clever tactics of the elderly gentleman who's application of a Jagdppanzer colored jacket, and complete motionless, renders him virtually invisible to any enemy who may be watching.
@billd.iniowa2263
@billd.iniowa2263 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx so much for these 2 videos. I had no idea there were so many variants and changes. My fave TD of the Germans, the model with the 75L70 gun (same as the Panther) is an Allied tanker's nightmare. Unfortunately a nightmare for the driver as well. With the nickname "Guderian's Duck", it waddled down the road due to being so front-heavy that steering was difficult. Ditches were also a problem because of the long gun being so low to the ground. I still like it tho, the ultimate sniper of SPG tank destroyers.
@creightonleerose582
@creightonleerose582 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed....Well stated Bill.... -Although the interior room the JP-IV possessed for the crew seemed rather comfy & roomy,-(In comparison to other German AG's)- Not to mention, being extremely effective @ defensive/ambush duties & roles, that PAK42-L70 looong-ass behemoth had >ZERO place< in this AG... -The PK39 L43 & L48 seemed more effectively manageable & more @ home in this particular vehicle.... -Even with approaching ditches/departure angles, inclines & obstacles @ an angle, Im sure SEVERAL green JP-IV drivers pissed off both the gunner & T.C more than one occasion using the PAK42-L70 barrel as a 75cm ersatz post hole digger & breaching device?... -Breaking the #1 rule about danger-laden bore obstructions.... -Pretty certain Heinz Guderian INVENTED the "Face-Palm" when dealing with Hitlers hair-brained decisions, manufactures designs n' specs, & the FAR to numerable Waffenamt/Panzer-Inspectorate AFV requirements & the ridiculous crazy amount of available German weapons calibers & the inherent logistics/supply concerns involved?...;)
@creightonleerose582
@creightonleerose582 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind my Ewwtoob, line crossing censors work...
@tinkererman
@tinkererman 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that b-roll relevant to the dialogue is being used. It makes me happy.
@knot3d_
@knot3d_ 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! I love this TD. Roomier than the Stug & Hetzer for sure while still super low profile. Those are the kind of soft stats that count irl as opposed to ahhum, a videogame.
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 4 жыл бұрын
Liked the final version....
@fallout0624
@fallout0624 4 жыл бұрын
Raising morale during the days where Toliet Paper is worth more then gold
@joeblow9657
@joeblow9657 4 жыл бұрын
Yet it still takes less grinding than moving from British tier 3 to tier 4 tanks
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 4 жыл бұрын
And fox-glove leaves are hard to come by! Use a news paper, it's all they're good for!
@beakyturf6336
@beakyturf6336 4 жыл бұрын
How much toilet paper did these crews carry?
@michaelbiri6676
@michaelbiri6676 4 жыл бұрын
Can't use anything less than Toilet paper to clean your iPhone screen, with a good Wipe and Toss!
@explorer1968
@explorer1968 4 жыл бұрын
The Jagdpanzer IV could have limitations (for the gunner especially) but as a tank destroyer got a fearsome reputation despite the low numbers available at any time!!
@The_Ninedalorian
@The_Ninedalorian Жыл бұрын
Every time I rewatch these videos i always want to go back and play the Tank being talked about
@hg2560
@hg2560 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Feel like it is a rather forgotten vehicle despite being solid around and very much a powerful threat on the field
@RickJZ1973
@RickJZ1973 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I really enjoyed seeing the interior. Will be building a model of this jagdpanzer in the very near future. Keep up the great work. Your videos are always interesting and informative.
@frankwhite3406
@frankwhite3406 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Episode Indeed. A very efficient and capable machine!
@BillHalliwell
@BillHalliwell 4 жыл бұрын
G'day Nicholas, Really enjoyed these two videos. Here, you are in the 'roomy' tank that, with all the stuff installed, turns out to be cramped after all. You've really got to wonder about the Nazis' obsession with huge tanks and tank destroyers. Given the armoury of this vehicle, the cost of it, construction time plus its mechanical worries, it would have been better to make many more 88 flak guns used as mobile tank destroyers which, by all accounts, were highly effective. Shoot and scoot was not a big advantage of this lumbering ATD. Wheeled 88s could fire and be towed away just as quickly with a good crew, or so I have read. Still, it is an impressive and visually deterring machine that would have been given a wide berth by smaller adversaries. Thanks for another great video and to see you enjoying your 'old' job rejuvenated. Tank on! Cheers, BH
@BillHalliwell
@BillHalliwell 4 жыл бұрын
@John Cornell G'day John, Thanks for your informative reply. I'm an ex-air force type and, clearly, I've got a lot to learn. Yes, I reckon it would take a large crew to move an 88 'quickly'. After your reply, I checked out the specs and weight of a towed-88. Speaking of weight, I didn't realise this AFV was so light; I guess I wasn't listening to Nicholas properly. Thanks for setting me straight. Cheers, BH
@MarshFlyFightWin
@MarshFlyFightWin 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, hope to see a video on the King Tiger tank. As there's not much on the vehicle
@bassbuckmaster
@bassbuckmaster 4 жыл бұрын
Great series explaining ww2 tanks. And once you get done and before your body heals you can explain how the magician assistant gets from the box through the hidden tunnel to the closet.
@richardgambill1737
@richardgambill1737 4 жыл бұрын
I Love every show you do. We need more shows to keep us occupied.
@erikverstrepen3373
@erikverstrepen3373 4 жыл бұрын
Good one Mr Moran ! And you fit in there pretty comfortable.
@russwoodward8251
@russwoodward8251 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Nice presentation, great facts and research.
@justforever96
@justforever96 Жыл бұрын
I know you aren't a fan of the swinging hatch on the Panther, but apparently there is a very good reason for it. The German tankers seemed to be quite obsessed with reducing visual height, they were extremely unhappy with the early Tiger's hatch, which was on a raised and welded ring with vision slits. The ring was bad enough, since they seemed to feel it was a great liability both in increased visibility to the enemy, and as a weak point when directly struck by high powered shot, but they were even less happy with the hatch itself that swung up to stand vertically. They felt this was like a big flag to to the enemy, both making it easier to see, making it hard to open the hatch when hull down without showing a large object to the enemy, and it also acted as a visual indicator to the enemy that the hatch was wide open. They went to the lower, periscoped ring later. I think the swinging hatch on Panther was a further move to eliminate these problems. Not sure if they fitted them to later Tigers or not. I know they at least made them so they could lie flat and not stand up. This would make them harder to close when under fire though, since you would have to stand in the hatch and lift it up before you could swing it closed. Having the hatch swing sideways from inside the tank would seem to be the solution. A compromise, but I guess they figured if the tank was already hit you were probably screwed anyway, and it was better to avoid being hit at all. I seem to recall that in many areas they lost more commanders to small arms fire while unbuttoned and outside the tank than they did to direct enemy fire penetrating tanks. So eliminating the need to expose yourself and making the tank less of a target would trump making it easy to escape if you were hit. The main thing is to not get killed. Kind of like the debate between hanging tons of armor on soldiers to protect them at the cost of making it harder to avoid getting shot at all. If there is a good chance that the bullet will still do serious damage even with the armor if it hits you, you are better off just skipping the armor. Same thing in naval warfare; not quite enough armor is worse than no armor. It just slows you down and takes up space for ammo and fuel, without actually protecting you. The reason armored cruisers failed so badly.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch Жыл бұрын
Swinging hatches are in no way an issue, the issue is swinging hatches which use a very cumbersome way of lifting. Compare to other designs like on Leopard
@Raptor747
@Raptor747 4 жыл бұрын
The more I see these German tanks and tank destroyers, the more I appreciate how well-designed the Sherman and American tank destroyers were for maintenance and repair purposes. The Sherman and its variants could literally have the entire front taken off in one piece with relative ease, making everything there easy to access. And with the tank destroyers turreted and open-topped, that was even more the case for them.
@chrissanchez9935
@chrissanchez9935 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the educational video.
@kawythowy867
@kawythowy867 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. That was crazy how tight it was
@ArturdeSousaRocha
@ArturdeSousaRocha 4 жыл бұрын
Looking around 8:15 I don't quite understand where the transmission shaft goes from the transmission to the left sprocket wheel. There's going to be pedals, feet etc.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 4 жыл бұрын
It's okay, the Germans made sure to only hire guys with no toes to drive the jagpanzer IV.
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the 'A' variant. I don't think it was that ugly. It's definitely taller though. You seemed like you were in an especially good mood during this one (out of the 90+% of your videos I have seen). Maybe I am wrong. Thanks for this, I enjoyed it - as per usual.
@tkasprzak
@tkasprzak 4 жыл бұрын
They had some unfinished hulls of Pz IV around, with fuel tanks in bottom of the hull - it forced them to make some additional space. They went with simpe additional centimeters of superstructure... Yeah, it's ugly ;-)
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 жыл бұрын
@@tkasprzak Looks are subjective. As is art. There is no such thing as ugly art or an ugly tank. It is only ugly to whomever thinks it is. I think the new QE class is UGLY. Many people - especially loyal, biased, Brits do not. Neither is right and neither is wrong. I have seen the Alkett variant - from several angles. They look somewhat ungainly. I do not think they are ugly.
@seandavid9859
@seandavid9859 4 жыл бұрын
Tomasz Kasprzak )
@buttahXD
@buttahXD 4 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to point out another potential reason for that moved escape hatch you didn't mention; due to the gunner being smack dab in the middle of most of the crew layout, it would be faster for the crew to bail out with it because three out of four of them are right next to it. Of course, this depends on the entire crew being unable to use other hatches to bugger out of, but still.
@americanpatriot2422
@americanpatriot2422 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@rburns531
@rburns531 4 жыл бұрын
Good job Nic!!!! Thanks! Oohraah!!!!
@richardvalens7989
@richardvalens7989 4 жыл бұрын
❤️!!HELLYEAH!!❤️ Thanks Irrrrishh Man!! 😊
@Ksportin
@Ksportin 4 жыл бұрын
The problem you had with getting out of the drivers position might have been lack of motivation. Perhaps the vehicle being on fire might have been more helpful. Yeah, brave people indeed in that seat
@JustSomeCanuck
@JustSomeCanuck 4 жыл бұрын
That's so the turret monster can reveal its' presence in a vehicle that doesn't even have a turret.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustSomeCanuck with the gun traversed 12° to the right that would he an even tighter squeeze getting out, maybe they would turn it to the left to make it easier for him to exit(well unless the gun mantlet was jammed or the gunner was in a hurry to leave cuz oh bugger the tank is on fire)
@loke72
@loke72 4 жыл бұрын
Yes i think if it was on fire you will get out as fastest you can, if you're hurt your head doesn't matter, a lump in your head is better than being on fire.
@Ksportin
@Ksportin 4 жыл бұрын
@@loke72 You wouldn't have much of a head left to bump if the fire got to the ammo
@matthewcaughey8898
@matthewcaughey8898 2 жыл бұрын
It’s worth noting that both panzer 3 and panzer 4 serious maintenance required a field depot to do it. To replace major components like the trans you had to unbolt the upper hull from the lower and separate the hulls via crane. Once this was done you had easy open access to everything. Unlike the M4 and many allied tanks you couldn’t do heavy maintenance in the field with the German panzer 3 and 4 unless you had a depot nearby. Another reason the Germans tried to use railroads as much as possible to bring tanks as close to the frontline without excessive wear ant tear
@Stormoak
@Stormoak 10 ай бұрын
Every army until now tries to carry Tanks, APCs, IFVs, Artillery and any other heavy vehicel on railroad over longer distances as much as possible because it far more economic to do so
@paavobergmann4920
@paavobergmann4920 4 жыл бұрын
About the inconvenience of changing out the transmission: If I remember correctly from one of your earlier videos, if you wanted to do that in a Pz III, you´d have to more or less disassemble the vehicle, taking out the whole turret, 2 viewports, the radio, the radio operator´s seat, and get the whole thing out that way. Fun! So....only having to put the gun and drive shaft aside sounds like a huge progress in maintenance ergonomics to me......so they did let experience influence the design....maybe....I mean, relative to other german vehicles....somewhat....
@fabiogalletti528
@fabiogalletti528 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not that sure. in a Tank you have to dismantle a lot, drag the transmission in the turret ring and crane it out. Not ideal. But here you have to crane and slide forward the gun, drag the transmission in the middle, lift it with no crane thru the roof at gun level, and drag horizontally it out thru the mantle hole, that is ye big, to finally crane it. Non a great improvement, I may say.
@davidkermes376
@davidkermes376 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabiogalletti528 and i thought working on a ford aerostar was hard!
@vaishalipatil712
@vaishalipatil712 4 жыл бұрын
Nice I like this tank in the game thanks
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Chief! I love kids, if they are properly cooked...
@austincummins7712
@austincummins7712 4 жыл бұрын
2:24 Interesting, an FU-8 for power transmission. Not as good as the FU-M8 in the English and Australian command vehicles though... : P
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks...From Fort Knox Ky...USA..!
@D_U_N_E
@D_U_N_E 4 жыл бұрын
I like the background music. I only see people complaining about it - though at this audio level it adds a nice bit of static behind the silence.
@Fortunes.Fool.
@Fortunes.Fool. Жыл бұрын
Just started building some of these for Flames of War and good lord that’s cramped in there, especially for the driver.
@ricoblaser6308
@ricoblaser6308 10 ай бұрын
I listened to the diary of a gunner on the Jagdpanzer 4 (Panther cannon) on another KZbin channel. He disturbed the smoke of the canon exactly on the compressed air outlet. Due to the emissions, the view is hindered by smoke by the target personicopop on the roof and a quick second shot is not possible. His company in the 7th tank division was converted to the Jagdpanzer from the Panzer IV in january /february 1945.
@slimygrimy-l7m
@slimygrimy-l7m 2 жыл бұрын
You went from mm to cm .. I realize the Americans use different system then like the entire world but everyone knows mm when it comes to tank armour. Should stick to that... awesome video
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 2 жыл бұрын
Germans tended to use cm a lot for some reason.
@leongaultier554
@leongaultier554 Жыл бұрын
I loved to drive this vehicle in Forgotten hope 2 :)
@BirdhunterLive
@BirdhunterLive 4 жыл бұрын
I think he missed something regarding "Hull down": There are vision "slits" in line with the gun, so the driver would have a pretty good idea of where the gun is. Given that it would've been his job getting clear of the hill (or whatever was front of the vehicle) and position the gun anyways (since there's not turret), I would assume that the gunner simply didn't have to worry about obstructions of line of fire.
@beakyturf6336
@beakyturf6336 4 жыл бұрын
Assume....makes an ass out of you and me. Yeah the gunner wouldn't have such trivial things to worry about while in theatre. Really?
@Cheezymuffin.
@Cheezymuffin. 4 жыл бұрын
@@beakyturf6336 thats what he is saying, due to the drivers vision being at the same level of the gun, the driver could make sure the gun was clear as soon as they positioned into position. Meaning that making sure the gun is clear would be regulated tot he driver and not the gunner, meaning the gunner doesn't have to worry about having the gun cleared.
@T1mbrW0lf
@T1mbrW0lf 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cheezymuffin. I think the observation that respects both viewpoints is that: while the gunner ALWAYS has to be concerned about obstructed line-of-fire, the design forces him to place his trust in a driver that may be relatively inexperienced this late in the war; and I would expect the vehicle commander and loader to also be aware of potential obstructions. Operating any AFV is still a team effort, with substantial motivation for success.
@cgross82
@cgross82 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, sir!
@rudithedog7534
@rudithedog7534 4 жыл бұрын
You had me at swinging hatch
@christopherthrawn1333
@christopherthrawn1333 4 жыл бұрын
Well done. You educated me.
@Dan-qp1el
@Dan-qp1el 4 жыл бұрын
Great job
@malcolm5514
@malcolm5514 4 жыл бұрын
Those MGs look like MG42s, I thought armored vehicles were typically equipped with MG34s. Am I wrong? 🤔
@JorgenRomeMojo
@JorgenRomeMojo 4 жыл бұрын
Jagdpanzer iv was actually one of the very few with the MG42.
@malcolm5514
@malcolm5514 4 жыл бұрын
huh interesting, thanks for the clarification! :)
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 4 жыл бұрын
They had to stick with the MG34 in those vehicles designed before the MG42 came out because it has a different barrel change mechanism that wouldn't fit. MG 42 barrel comes out sideways, and you need to change it every 100 rounds or so as it gets hot. But this vehicle came later and got an MG42 mount. Also loads of space in there giving elbow room for the barrel change.
@malcolm5514
@malcolm5514 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cancun771 Makes sense!
@HerrGausF
@HerrGausF 4 жыл бұрын
As Cancun said it's due to the barrel change mechanism. They could build it this way since there was enough space to pull the entire MG back inside the tank for a barrel change. You couldn't do that in the narrow front compartment of the Panzers, thus the need for the MG 34.
@preacherbiggin
@preacherbiggin 4 жыл бұрын
Those welds though! Wow! 🐓 crap on a stick!
@coreys2686
@coreys2686 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bunch of cannon holes on the left hull behind the ammunition stowage.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i saw those too...i wonder if those are penetrations from like a 2 pdr or a bofors or something in the 20-30mm size or something? Or are they part of the construction and supposed to be there? They sure look like small exit wounds...it might have killed it's crew or maybe it was slightly used as target practice after the war and aren't from combat?
@michaelbiri6676
@michaelbiri6676 4 жыл бұрын
In his previous Video, no holes on the outside can be seen (kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2HGnaNol8Sim9E) Nonetheless, it is not unlikely that the Germans (or Allies) might have used this pre-production model as a armor testing vehicle.
@aldenconsolver3428
@aldenconsolver3428 4 жыл бұрын
This question should probably be on Facebook or some such but I did not find a link Wondering here - Why could the Ordinance 17 pounder not have an effective explosive shell designed for it. I can understand why a given gun might be unable to use a high-velocity shell (chamber space or tube strength) but since the 17 pounder clearly had both the chamber and strength for a APCBC round (and etc) why could a shell not just be made with thinner walls and therefore a larger explosive filling? Was there a technical reason it could not be done or were the resources just not available to make yet another type of shell - thanks
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 жыл бұрын
One was. by the end of the war, a low velocity HE round was developed.
@aldenconsolver3428
@aldenconsolver3428 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch Thank you :)
@kaptkaos
@kaptkaos 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Nicholas I have several questions I would like to ask you. First though thanks for the World of tanks code and I hope I have helped you out with continued funding for your channel as I find it great for information on the tanks. 1, Is there any chance you can ask the guys from world of tanks if the time period of use for the beginning level of the game can be made unlimited instead of the few days that it has now before you have to pay to continue playing? 2, Is there any chance they can make some more scenarios for the beginning level besides the boot camp one and then going into online battle? Something like being on your own to find and eliminate the enemy and one where you work within a group both of which can be played as many times as you like to help build experience. Of course it would be you against the AI in these like in the boot camp and there could be four or so maps to choose from. 3, Can they make it so that there are more types of motors and other equipment available to upgrade with? I don't mean putting a modern motor type into tanks designed from the thirties and forties but other types of motors from the time period that the tanks are from. Also axis tanks should only be able to use what ever was available from within the axis countries and the allies tanks can only use what was available from the allies countries, such as the Packard V12 as used in the PT boats even though these were not used in tanks (I have no idea why they weren't, could you imagine a Sherman with one in it). What if you classed these mods as experimental? 4, Has the training for the mine sweepers changed since WW2? I ask this as I have seen a doco on tank battles of Vietnam where a tank commander came to a rail over pass which he and his troop had to go under so he asked the mine sweepers to check as he believed it was a good place to set anti tank mines. They checked and said all clear but he still did not trust it so he had them check again, this went on for three or four times and in the end he had to go through. Yes there was a mine set there so his tank was disabled and the two mine sweepers were no longer with us. So I was wondering do they not train them to check for none metal mines anymore or was that just slacking off in training up until recently? Sorry this is so long, regards Kaptkaos.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what you’re on about for the first question. on the PC, at least, it is possible to play forever for free. 2 is possible. 3. we already do to a large extent. 4, in combat, no, there hasn’t really been a change in detection, though for clearing roads we now have ground penetrating radars. Clearing mines, however, have become a faster process.
@kaptkaos
@kaptkaos 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch Hi Nick thanks for answering so quickly I have only been playing world of tanks for the last three or four days so I am still finding out things also I suffer from motion sickness in some games and believe it or not world of tanks turns out to be one of them (bugger). At least I can get to play four or so games before it gets too much for me and I finally got my first kill followed with the required damage to other tanks in the next game. I know the way they deal with mines these days has changed but from what I saw the guys searching for mines during Vietnam seemed to rely on their detectors only to tell them if a mine was there. Kind of dangerous I thought and was wondering if they still rely on their equipment only to say it is clear.
@ukaszgrzesik7231
@ukaszgrzesik7231 4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, I got War Thunder advert before this video.
@Martinlegend
@Martinlegend 4 жыл бұрын
The JgPz IV was the only Tank who had mg 42 as secondary weapons btw (all others had mg 34s)
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
Played WoT from the beta. Had some triumphs. Spanked a few baddies. Was regularly whacked by professionals. Left when they made my Battle Buddy awards nugatory. Learning to work as a team while observing good fire etiquette vanished on the spot.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong-I still recommend WoT to those who might enjoy it. If you need a break, try MWO. Nothing like learning to hate all sensors other than the Mk 1 Eyeball. ;-)
@SlartibartfastTheFourth
@SlartibartfastTheFourth 2 ай бұрын
If the panther pak 42 could punch through 170mm at 30 degrees - wasn’t that enough to take on the is2 ?
@g-low6365
@g-low6365 10 ай бұрын
comparing it to many other tanks. this one looks actually comfortable to ride in.
@mabinuqi03
@mabinuqi03 4 жыл бұрын
i watched this on wg channel now I'm watching it here to support the chieftain.
@hallamhal
@hallamhal Жыл бұрын
3:36 so effectively, you could say it has a coaxial gunner
@luciankristov6436
@luciankristov6436 4 жыл бұрын
L40 and apcr was a nasty combination. 3723 fps and 6.7 inches of penetration is honestly respectable even by todays standards for a non apfsds
@dropdead234
@dropdead234 4 жыл бұрын
Given the ammo storage, a "Bugger! The tank is on FIRE" would be fairly pointless?
@sawyere2496
@sawyere2496 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine it would be
@RasEli03
@RasEli03 4 жыл бұрын
Having an mg42 is allready cool to have in a vehicle. But two mg42's? Woah
@ohlordy2042
@ohlordy2042 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, indeed. But I'm still a little lost as to how they actually sighted a target to fire at. The vision port just above the MG42 is tiny and the gunner is along way back behind a standard, field type MG. How on earth could they see what they're firing at? Or am I missing something?
@paavobergmann4920
@paavobergmann4920 4 жыл бұрын
more dakka
@СерафимаСтоцкая-б9и
@СерафимаСтоцкая-б9и 2 жыл бұрын
Вообщем старается рассказать обо всём и сразу !!!! Смотреть можно все ролики на одном дыхании !!!! 👍👍👍🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺☯️☯️☯️♾
@kaptkaos
@kaptkaos 4 жыл бұрын
One more question. Is there any chance of having the t23e4 tank being made available on the world of tanks game? It was made in limited production numbers as a training tank. It would be great if I could get this in the first level even if I had to pay for it. Can they make the tanks cheaper, I mean $50 or so may seem cheap to some but when you are on a pension that can be a lot to have to pay. Sorry that was more than one question. Regards Kaptkaos.
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 10 ай бұрын
It looks pretty spacious for such a low slung vehicle.
@TammoKorsai
@TammoKorsai 4 жыл бұрын
My god. That transmission change sounds even worse than the Panther. A larger, multi-part access hatch or perhaps removing the sprocket followed by a removable panel to slide it out would have been immeasurably better. The latter is what I assumed to be for German tanks before I watched your videos.
@EliteAmmunition
@EliteAmmunition Жыл бұрын
So without your CVC on how often do you dent your mellon in these videos?
@ambrosephill9
@ambrosephill9 Жыл бұрын
The Chieftain is always the best.
@jaws3225
@jaws3225 4 жыл бұрын
So, do German tank killers carry mg42s instead of 34s? It would seem that the changing the barrel problem isnt present as the hull is wide and big?
@zafranorbian757
@zafranorbian757 4 жыл бұрын
Well not all but the Jagdpanzer. IV does indeed carry MG 42.
@jaws3225
@jaws3225 4 жыл бұрын
Zafran Orbian thanks
@polticalme1677
@polticalme1677 2 жыл бұрын
It's plain to see why tankers were rather short guys back in the days. I'm only 1.85 m and I'd be way to tall. How bad must it have been for you to get into the driver's seat??? I'm still wondering how you got out again!
@kawythowy867
@kawythowy867 4 жыл бұрын
How terrifying it must have been to be in a tank fighting. Man oh man you never know if they would fire one of those panzerfousts or whatever they are called. Or even just a round. Man I seen what it does to these tanks. Awful. Just awful. War is awful. War is hell.
@FHRMN
@FHRMN 4 жыл бұрын
Can we see the bloopers / outtakes please
@rieger.design
@rieger.design Жыл бұрын
Seems like those old tanks were pretty badly designed when it comes to moving around inside them. How do they compare to modern ones?
@stephenwarhurst6615
@stephenwarhurst6615 4 жыл бұрын
WarThunder ad shown before this KZbin by The_Chieftain does WarGaming know about this from there competition?
@uconnjames
@uconnjames 4 жыл бұрын
5:30 Did Chieftain just say 17cm APCR penetration for Pak42?
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl 4 жыл бұрын
At 30 degrees slope/500 meters, incredible...
@philiphied
@philiphied 4 жыл бұрын
@11:35...What are you talking about??? What is a 470a???
@philiphied
@philiphied 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh exposition later. A picture still would have been nice.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 жыл бұрын
IV/70 (A)
@seanmalloy7249
@seanmalloy7249 4 жыл бұрын
The Jagdpanzer IV/70 a: tank-photographs.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Jagdpanzer-IV-70A-tank-destroyer-ww2.jpg You can see the additional 'box' on the lower superstructure for the Alkett-produced version that the Chieftain was referring to.
@johnneill990
@johnneill990 2 жыл бұрын
What I don't like about Guderian's Duck is its 28 foot length. As an American driving a rented Euro Box which is about a dozen feet long in Euro Cities and back roads I don't see how anyone could maneuver one of those in that situation without Bulldozer support.
@joezephyr
@joezephyr 4 жыл бұрын
Jeep. Nicholas you still haven't done the Willy Jeep. What are the differences compared to the Ford Jeep?
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 4 жыл бұрын
I've generally avoided jeeps to date, as there are so many actual jeep experts and servicable jeeps, I think I would be making a second-string product compared to what I presume is out there. Of course, I can be bribed...
@tarjei99
@tarjei99 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like it has a MG42. Is it a standard weapon with barrel change, or is there a heavy barrel?
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 4 жыл бұрын
All Mg42s have the same type of barrel, and the internals of an Mg42 can be replaced with the internals of a modern MG3.
@Comma_Man64
@Comma_Man64 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like they could use an MG 42 because of the mounting it's in. The reason why other vehicles used the 34 was because of the ball mount. Meanwhile, these MGs are simply firing through open slots and have enough room for the barrel to swing out to the right.
@budmeister
@budmeister 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonsOfLorgar Not they can't as the MG3 was changed to fire slower and fires a different sized cartridge.
@tarjeijensen9369
@tarjeijensen9369 4 жыл бұрын
@@Comma_Man64 I can see that. But given that it is an MG42, there is a practical limit of around 300 rounds before they are supposed to change the barrel unless they are using a heavier barrel.
@johnboy384
@johnboy384 4 жыл бұрын
Are they armor penetrations on the hull wall when he first jumps inside>?
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 4 жыл бұрын
👉While the later sights were graduated, the earlier sights only had a GED!😁
@Chaseybud
@Chaseybud 4 жыл бұрын
The man staring in the background of the beginning lol
@Katniss218
@Katniss218 4 жыл бұрын
Do an episode on the Object 279! (the real one, in Kubinka)
@F1ghteR41
@F1ghteR41 4 жыл бұрын
This slot for the main gun sight seems rather unsecure to me.
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib 4 жыл бұрын
7:35 - what's the red faucet handle?
@GannicusMisteriosdeHonduras
@GannicusMisteriosdeHonduras 4 жыл бұрын
To close the gun port above
@haywoodyoudome
@haywoodyoudome 4 жыл бұрын
00:40 if you pause and squint you'll be able to see the _evil_ _symbol_ _that_ _shall_ _go_ _unnamed_ on the front of the Panzer IV in the background that was taped over in those videos.
@paavobergmann4920
@paavobergmann4920 4 жыл бұрын
it´s the "Afrika corps"-Insignia, in line with the paint job.
@DymondzTrucking1962
@DymondzTrucking1962 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered how relevant they would be on a modern battlefield.
@Revener666
@Revener666 4 жыл бұрын
So the prototype has been used as a target I presume, looked liked HEAT holes in the side.
@Anlushac11
@Anlushac11 3 жыл бұрын
The 75mm L/70 PAK 42 could pen the IS-2 turret but not the hull. I dont think the IS-3 turret could be penetrated unless using APCR.
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