That Belgian guy really knows his stuff, and speaks English well. That museum is lucky to have him.
@morl15 ай бұрын
8:00 lmao sure dude
@klondike69none854 ай бұрын
@@morl1 you can't even speak one language, maybe you should sit this one out sport
@mootpointjones84884 ай бұрын
In my experience, whether you're in Wallonia or Vlaanderen many, many will speak excellent English.
@BĹİŤŻżẒ̌884 ай бұрын
His English is rather average to our standard. Of course Dutch and French are his main languages, which makes his English more than decent enough.
@klondike69none854 ай бұрын
@@BĹİŤŻżẒ̌88 Flemish not Dutch
@c1ph3rpunk5 ай бұрын
5mm armor: “what is this designed to stop?” Light German insults.
@ph58325 ай бұрын
No armor; best armor
@TOFMDrone5 ай бұрын
a 10mm bratwurst
@ivanmonahhov23145 ай бұрын
Fragments and rifle rounds from range
@chuck29985 ай бұрын
Incoming fire (indirect only) Not really armor, more like amr
@kmoecub5 ай бұрын
The best armor is not being seen.
@Wastelandman70005 ай бұрын
To be serious, if you're a small country you use what you have, can get, or can make. This buggy fits all three categories.
@rdfox765 ай бұрын
That honestly looks like a very well thought-out little TD. Not perfect, but it's clear that a lot of effort went into trying to make the best little ambush predator they could. I sure wouldn't want to stumble across one in 1940!
@ChrisBrown-iu8ii5 ай бұрын
Ya know Chieftan, if you were to do a walkaround of that museum. I would not complain....
@kilianortmann99795 ай бұрын
AFAIK the Belgian BARs were chambered in 7.65×53mm, Mauser's first smokeless rifle cartridge.
@GR464045 ай бұрын
Yes. It was remarkably similar to the later 7.65x51mm NATO, better known as .308 in the United States. Argentina used 7.65x53mm too, and I think the Turks had rifles in it too, but had to drop it in favor of 8mm Mauser during WWI.
@Zorglub19665 ай бұрын
@@kilianortmann9979 Sorry i messed up, you're right.
@_ArsNova5 ай бұрын
I own an Argentine Mauser in 7.65x53. It feels basically identical to 7.92 Mauser if I'm being honest.
@BlackHawkBallistic5 ай бұрын
@@GR46404 you mean 7.62x51mm for NATO
@GR464045 ай бұрын
@@BlackHawkBallistic Yes I do, BlackHawkBallistic! Thank you for the correction. I think I will leave my post unedited so yours will make sense.
@michaelpielorz92835 ай бұрын
ducks behind the 5mm front plate :can youstill see me ? Now that´s what I call armour!!
@Djamonja5 ай бұрын
It was way ahead of its time, it already has the anti-drone armor on the top ;)
@michaelscaplis5 ай бұрын
The Austrians initially wanted to sell it for 3Mio Belgian Franks but after a press campaign by veterans in Belgium, an agreement was made with Austria and the vehicle was donated. It was airlifted by a Belgian Air Force C130.
@flitsertheo5 ай бұрын
Those nazty Austrians, stealing our vehicle and then claiming money for it.
@robbyhouben79955 ай бұрын
That's right! Except the vehicle was traded, not donated.
@pczTV5 ай бұрын
What a dick move by Austria. In the end, they settled for a trade…. Which is STILL insult to injury.
@samholdsworth4205 ай бұрын
Your channel is one of the reasons why I stick around KZbin. Cheers! 🥂
5 ай бұрын
Fascinating Video and great Vehicle. I visited the Museum as a littel boy and the grand aviation Hall blew me away. Still remember that day well
@Gravity_studioss18 күн бұрын
You got a hilarious username and Profile picture
18 күн бұрын
@@Gravity_studioss thank you very much
@Wastelandman70005 ай бұрын
Darn, we'll never know if The Chieftain fits inside a T-13! Oh well, at least we have track tension! LOL
@Fupaforlife5 ай бұрын
That museum area is amazing. It’s absolutely beautiful.
@yt.6025 ай бұрын
It is a nice museum, I worked in Brussels 2016-18 and visited it often, they have loads to see,. As Nicholas said it's in a really nice building at the top of a substantial park. Well worth a visit.
@viandengalacticspaceyards51355 ай бұрын
For all of you interested in the workings of the carrier, 'Lottie the Tankwhisperer" just now is making a series on restoring two of them. Quite funny girl, but very,very good & detailed explanations.
@guidor.41615 ай бұрын
I haven't been in the museum for years, so i have to go there soon!
@guidor.41615 ай бұрын
@@annadalassena5460 Definitely, i hate those new-fangled active-experience type museums with hardly any real stuff in them.
@TBreezy175 ай бұрын
Very cool that it’s preserved.
@emergingloki5 ай бұрын
Something I've always wondered is why more vehicles designed to 'shoot and scoot' didn't have rear facing guns, much better for the 'scoot' bit than forward facing.
@GR464045 ай бұрын
I can't think of any others besides the Valentine Archer. And maybe the US M6 37mm GMC. Maybe getting a good view to the rear was tough? It would have been a good idea for the US M3 75mm GMC, I think.
@Zorglub19665 ай бұрын
@@GR46404in 1940 the French built in emergency the Laffly W15 TCC armed with a 47mm m1937 firing rearward.
@diedampfbrasse985 ай бұрын
the answer why those rearfacing solutions were rare lies in the fact that you need considerable free space behind and on both sides of the usually larger guns of SPGs (for crew, ammo and gun traverse). Most platforms only offered enough free space/only allowed a change of space in the very center and towards the back as the front had complex/heavier armor arrangments, a heavy gearbox setup and a fixed driver positions which would conflict with the guns traverse/operation. Very few existing platforms would have allowed for an easy conversion into a rear facing layout and noone really wanted to pay/wait for a new platform development just to get selfpropelled guns into production. And ofc not long into the war protection also gained importance and platforms stopped being equally protected all around, so for an SPG it wouldnt made much sense to add armor/gunshields to the back when your platform already had its best protection on the front.
@СусаннаСергеевна5 ай бұрын
S-tank famously solved this by having a second, rear-facing driver.
@justforever965 ай бұрын
Mostly because that's all you can do with it. It's a lot harder to do things like fire and advance, and your heaviest armor is on the rear. And it's it really all that much of an advantage in the real world? Especially when most tracked vehicles can just about turn around in their own length. They definitely talked about it a fair bit and tried it a few times. And then not long after, they stopped producing gun armed assault guns and TD, so no one has any reason to build one now.
@neilwilson57855 ай бұрын
Fascinating video. I love these obscure vehicles.
@evilfingers43025 ай бұрын
Would be nice if there was a dedicated video from the Chief on the Wiesel AWC.
@jannearo3285 ай бұрын
„Oh, was für ein süßer kleiner Panzerwagen.“ „Halt die Klappe, Karl!“
@gromit33155 ай бұрын
The Germans copied the design of this armoured vehicle to make their own mini tank: the Wiesel 😊
@MM229665 ай бұрын
A weapon to surpass Bob Semple.....
@dreenarmookington22405 ай бұрын
Duel of the Fates
@PotatoeJoe695 ай бұрын
Blasphemy in the church of Semple! Shun the blasphemer!
@M4D0GG05 ай бұрын
A weapon to surpass metal gear
@jon90215 ай бұрын
@@PotatoeJoe69hahahaha!
@IntrospectorGeneral5 ай бұрын
In fairness to Bob, his idea was to use his tank like mobile pillboxes against infantry at the time of an invasion of NZ, in the same way as the British developed a range of wacky airfield defence vehicles against paratroop attack.
@Ghostmaxi13375 ай бұрын
I know of 2 pictures, of one of these pulling the rare 7,5 / 5,5 cm Pak 41 L/57 which looks absolutly huge next to it.
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh5 ай бұрын
Little scamp of a guncarrier. Thanks for vid. Never heard of this type before.
@Gravity_studioss18 күн бұрын
Absolutely love to see these more obscure vehicles. You got plenty of material about the T34, Tigers and Panthers, Shermans, But nobody talks about the Thingamabob contraption
@barelyasurvivor12575 ай бұрын
Fascinating vide Thank you.
@incorrectbeans5 ай бұрын
"A tank? But Boss, we only have steel sheets and no way to shape them!"
@DeeEight5 ай бұрын
I saw a source once that the ROF on the Belgium 47mm was slightly slower than the QF 2-pounder, which was rated for 22 per minute.
@TheChieftainsHatch5 ай бұрын
Likely, but ROF on a towed mount is rarely the same as on a vehicle
@DeeEight5 ай бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch is there ROF data anywhere for any of the cramped one man french turrets with their 47mm gun ? Or a two man British turret with a 6 pounder? A relatively open mount with two crew serving the 47mm of the T-13 should be in between.
@justforever965 ай бұрын
You realize the rated ROF for hand loaded guns has almost nothing to do with reality? They shoot as fast as the guy loading them can get shells into the breech. The depends on who that guy is, how the ammo is stored, who is fetching shells for him, how much space he has. They don't even use an universal formula for figuring out that number, so that basically tells you nothing useful, except maybe a very rough estimate of the sort of ballpark you are able to achieve when all is well laid out. Like to aren't going to get 100rpm, but you can probably do better than 20 unless you really messed up.
@hairsquig80795 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this for so long!
@jimmylight48665 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@heralds5 ай бұрын
Also I love the fact the tank is shorter than both of yall
@TheChieftainsHatch5 ай бұрын
Robby is standing on a box...
@heralds5 ай бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch JFC youre a tall mfer you're like 2 of him
@brealistic35425 ай бұрын
That's a amazing Museum.
@valkoharja5 ай бұрын
Thank you both of you
@dennisvandermarkt82635 ай бұрын
Oh bugger the T13 is on fire.....
@ianbell56115 ай бұрын
Very cool. 5mm armour may not seem of much use to some people but bear in mind it's thicker or at least on par with a lot of modern day frigate and destroyer hull plating and given that the superstructure of the same ships also similarly thin but manufactured from aluminium the armour of this T13 would stop a lot more. Cheers
@smalltime05 ай бұрын
Modern ships aren't armoured though, the threat to them are torpedos and missiles and their defences reflect that. Tanks, especially at the time, had to rely on their armour in combat
@justforever965 ай бұрын
@@smalltime0but they didn't really. Most tanks in this era had very little armor and relies mostly on not getting hit by anything bigger than an MG. And this isn't a tank.
@smalltime05 ай бұрын
@@justforever96 I'm sorry what are you disagreeing with?
@robinburt57355 ай бұрын
Looks like a great place to visit :)
@popuptarget73865 ай бұрын
And the Rory award goes to Chieftain for the most gratuitous use of the Word Belgium.
@johnsowerby71825 ай бұрын
At least he isn't a stupid Ghent
@dillonpierce78695 ай бұрын
More obscure stuff coming? 👀 Never heard of this little thing. Another one that'll fit in the barn..... Love that. 😂
@Colonel_Blimp5 ай бұрын
A tidy little TD for the mid 30’s.❤
@henryturnerjr38575 ай бұрын
"We can't have the gun going through the driver's compartment going right past his head." Apparently, the US had no such thoughts with the 75mm half track.
@jon-paulfilkins78205 ай бұрын
Well, in that specific case the muzzle was ahead of the driver, concussion blast might have still been an issue, but an unwelcome instant tan wasn't 😉
@bwilliams4635 ай бұрын
I believe it was an episode of the History Channel's 'Patton 360' that talked about those particular anti-tank half tracks. There was a veteran interviewee who had served as a driver, and he talked about the permanent hearing damage he suffered from sitting under the end of that barrel.
@lifuranph.d.94404 ай бұрын
@@bwilliams463 `eh...Wot?
@bwilliams4634 ай бұрын
@@lifuranph.d.9440 I typed 'I BELIEVE IT...'
@Gravity_studioss18 күн бұрын
Also the PRIEST spg
@janwitts26885 ай бұрын
Grief.. the Belgium army with its motorcycle and sidecar fitted with AT rifle.. and now this thing.. no wonder their bicycle infantry had only a few bullets each..
@viandengalacticspaceyards51355 ай бұрын
Funny thing, the Chasseur Ardennais with their oddball stuff managed to piss off the Germans quite beyond what you would expect of such a scale model force. Note it was in the Ardennes (the Bulge), full of woods and rocky hills with very small & far apart roads and bridges. So small stuff might well have been useful. The local Belgians there don't really glorify it, but find it funny, just as we do.
@01Bouwhuis5 ай бұрын
So did the germans and the dutch...it equals the Italian bazooka scooter.
@egoalter12764 ай бұрын
I see bo reason why light TDs, and motorcycle mounted motorizes infantry wouldnt be a coste effective solition for maintaining a capable manouver force for a small country with limited domestic heavy industry.
@janwitts26884 ай бұрын
@egoalter1276 At the start of ww2 some of their bicycle infantry had an issue of less than 20 rifle bullets each..
@BĹİŤŻżẒ̌884 ай бұрын
@janwitts2688 The Soviets had more artillery than munitions, what's your point?
@BasmatiJones5 ай бұрын
Thank you for yet another wonderful presentation of a very rare vehicle from a sort of "Golden Age" of armored vehicle experimentation and production. Wondering if the tow pintle was used for towing an ammunition trailer.
@michaelguerin564 ай бұрын
I remember watching a video, several years ago where a Belgian museum official told the story of getting this vehicle back from Vienna.
@jimboAndersenReviews5 ай бұрын
That is a potent gun, for 1939, so if the crew where motivated, had trained on the vehicle and sat in a concealed position, I could easily see this becoming a very nasty surprise to meandering into its field of fire. Somebody did a lot with limited resources, I think. That was informative :3
@nor084518 күн бұрын
An impressive museum. I hope to visit sometime.
@thurin845 ай бұрын
fascinating little vehicle.
@BHuang925 ай бұрын
The best Belgium tank of WW2
@miglover55 ай бұрын
Nope. We had the French acg as well.
@ketchman82995 ай бұрын
But does the Chieftan fit inside?
@alfazagato14554 ай бұрын
I remember seeing a very poor picture of one of these in a photobook of my dad's. Always been curious. Really, always wanted a model. No plastic kits have been forthcoming iirc.
@NotTheAlcoholic5 ай бұрын
Now that is a thing
@CalgarGTX5 ай бұрын
Guns facing backwards on TDs make a lot of sense tbh, means you can take advantage of a lot of positions that would otherwise be judged hard to get out of, and run back to next cover easily rather than having to manoeuveur the thing around while getting shot at.
@wazwulf26985 ай бұрын
great info thanks
@d33b335 ай бұрын
27:26 "You don't think about Belgium as being a martial history..." Ian (Forgotten Weapons) *clears throat*
@mikearmstrong84835 ай бұрын
Ah, Belgium. Wonderful country. Friendly people, nice chocolates, easy access to panzer divisions.
@jon-paulfilkins78205 ай бұрын
Nice to see, as my 'bag' is early war stuff, this is very much my kind of thing. I could imagine if it was "alive" it want to be a Marder when it grew up!
@larrysmith7035 ай бұрын
Would love to have you do a video on the T-15 tank
@jaymorris34684 ай бұрын
Great stuff
@daledemanchuk79205 ай бұрын
you were on the learning end today guy! great video!
@piritskenyer5 ай бұрын
6 metre lomg muzzle flash implies a way too short barrel for the given propellant charge
@christophermaes26775 ай бұрын
Looks like an excellent museum... I will have to check it out when I am in Brussels next month. One thing I am curious about: why doe the T-13 have the symbol of the USAAS 96th Bomber Squadron (devil with bomb in triangle) painted on it?
@jonathanmoeg12025 ай бұрын
That's covered in the video.
@coldwarrior785 ай бұрын
A surprisingly well designed and effective weapon from a time when most didn't understand armored warfare.
@Colinpark5 ай бұрын
With that low ground clearance and big lower plate I can't imagine the cross country performance was that great.
@ph58325 ай бұрын
Belgium in the spring …. Life is good
@ianmckay17805 ай бұрын
Thanks Nick, it's nice to see something strange and foreign. It proves the ingenuity of man the world over, when necessity calls. there is someone with a good idea. Love you sense of humour too.
@linadimois5 ай бұрын
00:08 - Chieftain, You do realize that your Tiger video will have a record number of views, right? But, hey, you are a Colonel now, I guess this is strategy! 🤫
@brianv1988Ай бұрын
I actually like it it's so small it could probably be put in any little area Dug in and camouflage the hell out of and the barrel is not sticking out so every shot is basically unknown it's like a firing bush only thing giving it away is probably dust and smoke by the time they find them they're already hauling to a different pre-prepared position and they don't have to reverse they just have to hit the gas and they're out of there a lot faster than reversing out of a position and turning around to extract plus when they're driving forward they can still fire at the enemy from the back😊 for the era it was made in and thinking that it's only used for ambush and defense AT it's a pretty cool piece of History I guess it's better than a stationary anti-tank gun where you can't shoot and Scoot and it's pretty small so it's probably a harder Target to hit but if it does get hit you're done for no matter where it's at
@retteip82762 ай бұрын
I personaly like the T13 B3 more than the other models
@yannichudziak99425 ай бұрын
To be honest I think there is some admin cause for the naming, T for test and 1 for initial batch and the 3 for the year it was designed in… So Test vehicles 1 designed in 1933 and likely to be followed by the rest of the naming for the full name?
@P.CL33T5 ай бұрын
Finally a tank my toddler can drive
@davidmeek80175 ай бұрын
Aloha; BRILLIANT! Mahalo
@bertramjagoda54445 ай бұрын
9:51 Freudian slip right after going over who Austria was aligned with...
@whya2ndaccount5 ай бұрын
Surely a 4th reason would be to allow it to reposition quickly by driving forward, just like the UK Archer?
@justforever965 ай бұрын
Assuming that was actually one of their states reasons. Which it might not have been.
@JR-tl2ym5 ай бұрын
I have a question about the Soviet V2 tank engines that were used from the T-34 to T-90. Why did they upgrade power with supercharger first and then turbochargers? Why not go to turbos earlier? The Germans were working on turbo diesels in the 1940s, and US M48 M60 tanks had turbodiesels by the 1950s. The Soviets seem to have not adopted turbocharged engines until the 80s.
@phil20_205 ай бұрын
Now that's what I need. I'd never get a speeding ticket! 🤠
@justforever965 ай бұрын
Because you would never be speeding. You can also just buy a Prius or old VW Beetle and get the same effect. Can't get pulled over for speeding if you are unable to exceed the speed limit.
@justforever965 ай бұрын
So wait, you said it was powered by a Go-Devil engine, meaning a Willys engine, same as the jeep? So they just happened to adopt that engine that was being used by the relatively obscure Willys in their Americar line of automobiles, and which happened to become famous in the hell later? But that only was developed in 1937. Or are you talking about a replacement engine?
@desmcharris5 ай бұрын
Cool Tank art!!
@TheHenirik4 ай бұрын
Unless that is strangely constructed it doesnt look like a 6/12/24v battery, how does the electrical work on that thing? It looks like 18v which would be a odd voltage to base your electrics on
@michaelmize11555 ай бұрын
The question I had was there any radios/flags and the Doctrine for coordinating the use of these?
@Gravity_studioss18 күн бұрын
I am not a specialist, but I do not think these Tanks could fit one. I can imagine a Truck with a Radio inside driving in a convoy with this SPG though
@Justoneperson-hu3nh5 ай бұрын
That looks like the first "Roomba"!
@justforever965 ай бұрын
Okay so the whole crew cabin collapses do it can fire all around, that's cool. So its definitely just an and propelled artillery emplacement.
@DrLoverLover5 ай бұрын
Thank you Robby! Are there any model 3 left somewhere?
@robbyhouben79955 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not, as their performance was superior to the earlier models, they were all drafted to serve as Beutepanzer by the Germans. You can find several photos of them in that role, maybe some of they still linger around in a southeastern Europe scrapyard or river :)
@christopherschadl76285 ай бұрын
its so cute
@michaelpielorz92835 ай бұрын
that`s on purpose, the calculation was germans will not shoot at puppies !
@rainerbehrendt93305 ай бұрын
indead
@hamster28455 ай бұрын
The T1 is the Swedish battle helmet so this high school footlocker on tracks it's just natural progression.
@markfergerson21455 ай бұрын
No radio? Not mentioned and I didn’t see one or an obvious mounting point. OTOH radios weren’t all that common in WWI or early in WWII. I was wondering about command and control. I suppose each crew would have a set of assigned defensive points and fire as needed, then fall back as it became clear that it was time to do so. I just don’t know enough about Belgian military doctrine. Did units operate on their own hook like that? C&C by voice and or flags maybe?
@viandengalacticspaceyards51355 ай бұрын
That would have been too much luxury. Back then, in the Belgian Army, having motocycle messengers rather than bicycles was quite modern. Also, the Chasseurs were a bit of a special troop, with small units operating fairly independantly, rather than a classic field formation.A bit guerilla-ish.
@Cohen.the.Worrier5 ай бұрын
11:50 In case you didn't understand him: Limburgse Grenswielrijders, Border Cyclists Battalion of Limburg.
@jp184495 ай бұрын
So is this Archer's uncle? Or Grandfather?
@Sliphantom5 ай бұрын
I don't think all the polygons on your tank destroyer have loaded yet.
@nargileh1Ай бұрын
Maybe the 13 was just a number they chose to make it look like they had 12 prior non-tank versions of this and avoid the scrutiny something new would have brought :D
@AsbestosMuffins5 ай бұрын
Does He Fit?
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing5 ай бұрын
If it fits, it sits
@avnrulz85875 ай бұрын
We'll never know...
@gordonfraser80205 ай бұрын
Just started watching, hoping for a "oh bugger, the tank's on fire". 😂
@dalejmobiledalej63615 ай бұрын
I wonder if Chieftain would fit in Polish TKS tankette. :)
@cmck4725 ай бұрын
He does. It's been done.
@TheChieftainsHatch5 ай бұрын
One of my more popular videos actually, for some reason.
@fatrobin725 ай бұрын
As mentioned... for early 30s, a surprisingly competent light vehicle with a gun that can punch well above its weight. As a plus, when retreating after firing, the driver has pretty good vision.
@ryanborn70265 ай бұрын
its a literal cube Q_Q and i thought the panzer 1 was the cutest little baby
@gregjokonis17765 ай бұрын
Has The Chieftain ever done the M551 Sheridan?
@heralds5 ай бұрын
Is that a medieval art picture on the side?
@1Wilful5 ай бұрын
Ooh a Leopold II bust and exhibit! That's a spicy one, one of the most brutal and inhumane rulers in the modern world.
@ivoferin81765 ай бұрын
Seems to be Pz II track links.
@wmlemerise23315 ай бұрын
Doesn't Belgium have a hockey team? Offense is the best defense
@THX-1138.4 ай бұрын
Damn, vehicle number soo close!
@bebo48075 ай бұрын
Rearward facing gun makes it easier to shoot and scoot.
@nowthenzen5 ай бұрын
Rear mounted gun, Archer anyone?
@TangBengYong5 ай бұрын
If a crewman stood in the gun ring, wouldn't he get hit by the breech recoiling?
@guidor.41615 ай бұрын
Did any Vickers light utility tractors or VATs survive?
@@TheChieftainsHatch Thanx, I actually saw that episode because i gave it a like, of course. My memory seems to be going bad since having had COVID twice. 🤷♂