Chase should've made "Cleaver" instead of the awful prequal.
@tonytoes02 күн бұрын
Fun fact Texas Chainsaw Massacre is fifty years old, and the Mafia helped get it into theaters(they might have also financed its production)
@joecostantino36842 күн бұрын
I really wish HBO had actually released that as a standalone movie.
@Burnthealphabetpeople2 күн бұрын
it was never supposed to be a sopranos movie but HBO made him write the sopranos it was only suppose to be about the riots
@jasondouglas1522 күн бұрын
It's weird how another movie in movie that was actually made was " Machete " Clever , Machete. Coinsurance?
@bradleywood19842 күн бұрын
I agree, it would have been better for his subspecies.
@nacho_abriata3 күн бұрын
My estimation of David Chase as a competent writer just plummeted
@kevinouellette53162 күн бұрын
Would you take it easy there Judge Roy Bean!!
@srbelnappa2 күн бұрын
what are you the friggin cardinal?
@notsocrates95292 күн бұрын
The cuckoldry was the breaker for me, I have wiped that movie from my memory. At least with the Sopranos Chase was a little more subtle with his preaching and social commentary.
@Grfrk21902 күн бұрын
Walt Whitman here
@Aaron-zk6jn2 күн бұрын
David Chase came up with a great idea that he began to hate.
@jlane16453 күн бұрын
I am so glad they didn’t use this. Uncle junior was a great character and that would have ruined it
@kitb95043 күн бұрын
Shame on Chase for even coming up with this as an actual concept.
@kemosabe13133 күн бұрын
Not only would it have ruined Uncle June as character, but also be completely disrespectful towards Dominic Chianese as an actor for his most well-known role.
@williamwallace76512 күн бұрын
and its been far overdone before in recent shows
@poindextertunes2 күн бұрын
@@kitb9504what? 😂 wait a minute, do you actually like the characters in this show? They are all murderers and thieves lmfao “Shame on him” thats such a ridiculous take. Its just a show and stuff like this happens a lot more than ppl know or what to admit. Its a story worth telling by simply bringing awareness to these kind of crimes. Ever wonder why p3do’s seem to get less time than drug dealers, thieves and other felonies? Its bcuz politicians who make the laws, and their constituents, are the biggest offenders. Look at Epstein. One of his very best friends won 2 US presidential elections 🤷♂️
@poindextertunes2 күн бұрын
@@williamwallace7651such as?
@sonar_bug3 күн бұрын
This is too fucked up for me even to think about.
@jayhari17133 күн бұрын
U wanna play Name That Pope?
@AnneHathawayRules2 күн бұрын
Calm down. We're not making a Lolita remake here.
@buddygrimfield79542 күн бұрын
I get that it is bad. I had always liked the character as a whole before this as well. But dude, it is just a show. You'll be ok.
@Ut1F70FSin2 күн бұрын
Lol, uh-yep.
@poindextertunes2 күн бұрын
@@buddygrimfield7954 This is correct
@Stephen-gk3dsАй бұрын
Thank goodness they cut this.
@shawnwilliam46533 күн бұрын
Exactly
@roguebritgravy12 күн бұрын
Thank goodness indeed.
@hex_gekko295682 күн бұрын
Would be another reason that the movie wouldn't be canon
@OdaVenom2 күн бұрын
Yeah, right, what a save.
@AleksandarVasiljevic-mi2hy2 күн бұрын
You know who else was cut? Ralf Cifaretto
@MrSalas3 күн бұрын
I don't know. Effin' slander ask me!
@samdawg3 күн бұрын
I can’t believe I stuck up for him!
@johnbrennan22403 күн бұрын
Came here to say that. Beat me to it. I feel like I been stabbed in the heart here!
@stefanlefco17502 күн бұрын
Dickie exclaims, “Janice!!? their are better looking guys in the can.”
@GothamKnight846612 күн бұрын
Lets take this out the back!
@TheSuperhomosapien2 күн бұрын
@@johnbrennan2240 How much more betrayal can I take!
@cyburntwentytwelve24553 күн бұрын
Makes Vito's betrayal look tame in comparison
@Benj3n3 күн бұрын
I can’t tell if this is a joke but i laughed
@blueferal86262 күн бұрын
Being gay is massively worse than a pedo Vito betrayed paulie
@venus-band2 күн бұрын
i just laughed my ass off for no reason
@RestrainingHollywood2 күн бұрын
Would Junior have gotten a Note from his Doctor.?
@beugie1012 күн бұрын
@@RestrainingHollywood they got him on a new medication. makes him salivate...for underage kids
@A_r783 күн бұрын
Uncle June isn’t allowed in this social club no more That much I do know
@GothamKnight846612 күн бұрын
Social club? He's gotta go!!!
@shaunfloyd88522 күн бұрын
You gunna take care of his kids?! After he's gone!
@nd_01762 күн бұрын
Thats true. They didnt do nothin'
@A_r782 күн бұрын
@@nd_0176 poor little guys
@heldhostageplshelp2 күн бұрын
@@shaunfloyd8852Wait hold up.
@MrBjanders3 күн бұрын
Movie should never have been made anyway, but I'm glad they cut this mental midgetry out. It's a shame because Michael Gandolfini was really good and deserved a better project.
@Shepard11003 күн бұрын
The cast was good. They needed different material. A mini series, then have it wrapped up as a movie made for HBO
@Pezint2 күн бұрын
@@Shepard1100 They can never pace a movie like a tv show, and if we want a sequel to a tv show we want a tv show. If you want a movie sequel you then don't want it bumped down to a slow tv show with a bunch of filler content. Sopranos was built to have a slower and calmer pace when needed.
@magallanesagustin49522 күн бұрын
The concept was good but they fucked up big time. Corey Stoll was also great as younger Junior.
@magallanesagustin49522 күн бұрын
@@Shepard1100except for Silvio.
@Shepard11002 күн бұрын
@magallanesagustin4952 Definitely agree with that. It's weird, because the guy that played Sil is a decent actor, but damn that was such an over the top performance
@daviddanielsson36433 күн бұрын
Chris and little Carmine actually made a better movie than the creator of Chris and little Carmine. And to think that the original script was even worse.
@gabagool_and_psychiatry48562 күн бұрын
that makes me feel sad actually. life is just a black hole.
@HOTD108_2 күн бұрын
@@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856I don't see it that way.
@Nick_B_Bad2 күн бұрын
Quasimodo didn’t predict this…
@otsb1662 күн бұрын
👏😂🥇
@Nick_B_Bad2 күн бұрын
@@otsb166😊😁🤝🤝
@clootscalhoun9481Күн бұрын
Who did whaa????
@mattydips28873 күн бұрын
They shoulda scraped this entire abomination of a movie
@shaquilleburton16112 күн бұрын
Nah it was a good movie
@fenrirrising1312 күн бұрын
@@shaquilleburton1611have a sewer based pallet huh? Many such cases
@XXXICKYXXX2 күн бұрын
You must’ve been at the top of your fuckin class
@MrChintaro2 күн бұрын
@@shaquilleburton1611 it really wasn't.
@mattydips28872 күн бұрын
@@shaquilleburton1611 please dont ever comment again. **respectfully
@paulie-Gualtieri.3 күн бұрын
Slander if ya ask me
@stefanlefco17502 күн бұрын
A German Shepherds shaved a-hL won first prize.
@kevinouellette53162 күн бұрын
@@stefanlefco1750if it was me he was talking about he'd have more than a cock in his ass!!
@Nick_B_Bad2 күн бұрын
@@stefanlefco1750Janice always runner up 😂
@StuGotti81Сағат бұрын
I don’t think he’s found this anywhere
@MonarchLMC3 күн бұрын
A storyline like this would draw too much away from junior and his actual personality from the show itself, it would have undermined what made junior morally bad but actually relatable in ways
@Pezint2 күн бұрын
Just the scene where he tells Richie that Janice stole 10$ out of his wallet, none of that needs to be tainted with the filth of the movie. You would never look at him in those glasses ever the same way again, that was the purpose of the movie, to destroy the sanctity and cultural impact the show has.
@Solidekans842 күн бұрын
@@Pezint grow up
@Pezint2 күн бұрын
@@Solidekans84 Anyone who hates pdf files would not want a main character on a show they like to retroactively become one. You are here to defend, normalize, and delight in the prospect of it. I can't say enough bad things about your motivations.
@Pezint15 сағат бұрын
@@shivahuggins1276 I unfortunately saw the movie when it released, I know this was cut from the script. I know what Junior the fictional murderer is, fictional pdf files aren't received by me like fictional murderers. Maybe for you it's the same or a lesser crime, there's some reason you are here wanting to argue with me and it's not a good one.
@GRUSTLER3 күн бұрын
The Many Saints of Newark was horrible.
@JohnMcAuley2 күн бұрын
David Chase needs someone to make him finish a thought & stop meandering.
@shaquilleburton16112 күн бұрын
It gets unnecessary hate
@elduderino2652 күн бұрын
whatever happened there ...
@jaysonb.66692 күн бұрын
Woke bs shoehorned into a Soprano's plot
@trashteamracing82622 күн бұрын
@shaquilleburton1611 It goes against the timeline established in the show in many ways. I don't know what they were thinking with the portrayal of Silvio and Paulie. There are things I liked about it. It was interesting to see Dickie's story. Overall though, it doesn't hold a candle to the series it was based on, and while I'll likely rewatch the show many times in my life, I can only imagine coming back to Many Saints as a bizarre curiosity.
@theroyalwraith2 күн бұрын
Thank god they didn’t go with this. Not only would it ruin Junior’s character, it would make the events of the show make literally zero sense. What about all the Sunday dinners they had as a family? Why would Janice ever let Junior anywhere near her daughter and step children?
@philmangini17282 күн бұрын
Sadly you're wrong which is why this idea is so insidious. People bury things and move on. They hide the pain and truth for the sake of the wider family and do things you cant belive unless youce seen it like bringing kids to a known abuser. The fact that janice had a cordial relationship is not out of character at all for a victim. And as far as junior telling richie about a light wallet or tony about a gas stove left on is also in keeping. For one if this idea were true janice would feel rage and try to hurt or kill junior without any suspicion falling on her whatsoever. It also makes sense that junior wpuld piss in the ear of anyone she may choose to confide in. We also easily forget about tonys second sister. Both sisters vanish around early adulthood? This subplot is abhorrent and meanspirited but the subtext is there. Uncle Junior has always been a piece of #!$@ Again the idea is repulsive. And hollywood may be tryung to normalize it but it mightve had a hidden value. People think of predators like theyre darth vader, obviously evil. But they arent. Abuse can be both subtle and hidden in plain sight.
@theroyalwraith2 күн бұрын
@ Don’t get me wrong, Junior is a POS. But I don’t think he would stoop to that. Although it’s not exactly analogous, he seemed genuinely outraged when he found out his tailor’s kid grandson died. I don’t think he would have gone out of his way to have the guy responsible dealt with if the protection of children weren’t a genuine conviction of his. He’s no doubt an evil man, but I think he had some lines he wouldn’t cross. As for Janice and Barb leaving home, I think Livia and Johnny Boy were more than enough reason to get away. Maybe I could believe another character would overlook something like that, but Janice? She killed Ritchie the moment he hit her. She plays the victim constantly throughout the show, and much like the rest of her family launches into rage or hysterics at the drop of the hat. I don’t think she’d stay silent in the one instance where she’d be wholly justified in speaking up. All in all I just don’t see it. It just seems like a way to make Junior out to be more evil, which is just kind of unnecessary.
@BigMuff5202 күн бұрын
@@shivahuggins1276this is exactly how it goes. ESP back then. I’m about the age Janice would be and when I was a kid, if you got molested and spoke up, you got in trouble for it and if you kept your mouth shut and pretended it never happened, maybe someone would buy you a nice dinner or something you really wanted. Then kids learn they have to accept their abusers. Abusers as well tend to convince the kids what they are doing is because they’re special and dress it up as special attention and adoration. It more often comes with gifts and adoration rather than force and verbal abuse. I was a clinician in a women’s shelter for years. Heard this story over and over every day. As a clinician who has worked with the abused and abusers as well, Junior strikes me as the type.
@bigvinnie32 күн бұрын
@@shivahuggins1276 This is true but most people arent Janice as Royal said she shot Richie for a punch. I doubt if hed done that shed let it go. And even less likely would she let her daughter around him.
@JoeRogansForehead2 күн бұрын
Well it would make sense why she’s insane
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw3 күн бұрын
The idea of Uncle June getting busted on "To Catch a Predator" lol
@brianew3 күн бұрын
That I would watch
@toby0993 күн бұрын
Why don’t you take a seat
@anthonyc16293 күн бұрын
@@toby099go shit in your hat!
@magicmoonmonke2 күн бұрын
Bruh Chris would have to invite himself into Junior's house instead of catching him in another house lol
@chapman37132 күн бұрын
As soon as he sees Chris Hansen he'd drive off with Bobby running after the car: "Junior wait... don't leave me."
@Psychology3 күн бұрын
It's shown throughout the series that Janice fucking loved Junior. Bullshit shock value plot. With that said, it's a better reason to kill Dickie than "he laughed at me"
@alalmalal2 күн бұрын
Self blaming, rationalizing can end up with situations like that irl
@Letos902 күн бұрын
@@alalmalalsure, but you can explain everything in this way. The whole reason why Janice was such a fuck up could be answer with “she’s got molested”. But why? The shows explains that very well, throwing the molestation angle would just distort a good example of pathological family relations.
@Je_QzcY3mN02 күн бұрын
it wasn't just "he laughed at me" tho, Jun was fundamentally insecure and saw all the instances of "he laughed at me" as a piece of systemic disrepect.
@josephtalmadge31083 күн бұрын
Janice crawled underneath uncle Junior for some warmth
@OMBP202 күн бұрын
Under the boardwalk!!
@MaoMoney2 күн бұрын
@@OMBP20Roadie's?????
@gachapinCUEVA2 күн бұрын
@MaoMoney Oh, you don't wanna know!!!
@phil-Leotardo.1713 күн бұрын
They ran with da Vito is a fanoink storyline instead.
@glowing5713 күн бұрын
Vito was never a fanoik. That security guard had dropped his car keys under the seat and Vito went down to get them.
@scottishdumbass3 күн бұрын
Sorry for what that animal Blundetto did to your 47 year old kid brother
@scottishdumbass3 күн бұрын
Sorry for what that animal Blundetto did to your 47 year old kid brother.
@scottishdumbass2 күн бұрын
Sorry for the death of your 47 year old kid brother by that animal, can’t even say his name!
@enigma-wv7oc2 күн бұрын
Don't forget he also had problems with his blood pressure.
@Guillermo_Carratero3 күн бұрын
I'm starting to think that David Chase is some kind of self-hating Italian. He changed his surname, portrayed Italians as Gavones, especially in The Many Saints of Newark. And I saw that 2 part interview with David Chase that HBO released a few weeks ago. In it Chase even talks about incest going on in Italian families. His words were something to the extant of "These men from Southern Italy could really have their demons" or something like that.
@jarlboof3 күн бұрын
Yeah but you gotta get over it
@kitb95043 күн бұрын
He's become a woke grifter. It's like he's trying too hard to be "unique" that just ends up pretentious and degenerate at the same time.
@memedealermikey3 күн бұрын
I dunno, not self hating. He’s been able to portray a range of Italians, it’s just that he’s clearly insecure about his place in the industry. He’s always been going on about how he never thought he’d be a TV writer. Because of that, I think he’s trying too hard to be profound when his greatest strength was always the nuance of his characters. He outta clear his head, realize he doesn’t need to be shocking
@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel22883 күн бұрын
@kitb9504 You seem obsessed with the word "woke" or "woke agenda" to the point it seems your mind is completely clouded by this apparant boogeyman. How is David Chase "woke"? People use this term when it doesnt fit at all like some kind of buzzword.
@ClaytonTheCracker3 күн бұрын
@@memedealermikey hes getting very old I think his brain is going
@A_r783 күн бұрын
He was gay, Uncle June?
@jarlboof3 күн бұрын
Catching? Not pitching?
@Ericdz3023 күн бұрын
Nobody’s got AIDS!
@seanlittle17603 күн бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOO ARE U LISHENING TO ME????
@samdawg3 күн бұрын
Are you listening to me!!!
@MrMurked103 күн бұрын
He can’t be in our social club no more that much I do know
@Cronps3 күн бұрын
Oh, he’s a bushman of the Kalahari! Thank God this idea died on the vine.
@jool48672 күн бұрын
I’m a member of that tribe.
@machomusprime503 күн бұрын
Thankfully it didn't happen. Imagine destroying one of the best characters, in arguably the greatest TV show of all time for a plot in a trash movie? Crazy to think smh.
@OWlsfordshire2 күн бұрын
It would be perfect. Shows how hypocritical it is for this to cross the line for fans, but the other characters aren't ruined for even more heineous crimes like killing pregnant women.
@machomusprime502 күн бұрын
@OWlsfordshire Then you don't know the show. Ralph was painted as a horrible human being from jump, so thats a TERRIBLE comparison. They were all bad guys but they were older mobsters that had honor and codes, which was a big theme in the series. Was it not? Richie, Feech, Uncle Junior? Totally changing Junior's character where there was no weirdness between him a Janice, nor did Janice use this information to her benefit, which she was one of the most manipulative people on the show would make ZERO SENSE. But it would be perfect, right? Never a single hint of that for years in the series.. Then you completely twist it in a bad prequel? Stop.
@OWlsfordshire2 күн бұрын
@@machomusprime50 Uh, did you miss the part where Jr already tried to kill his own family?
@machomusprime502 күн бұрын
@@OWlsfordshire Uh.... Did you miss the part about you really don't know the show? Just be quiet. Watch the video again and see how terrible of an idea it would be. Trust me.. This channel creator and I forgot more about this show the you'll ever know.
@anon24272 күн бұрын
@OWIsfordshire I can tell you watched the show on KZbin. Had no arguments for him
@A_r783 күн бұрын
Always with the scenarios
@JangianTV3 күн бұрын
Ohhh, that's the boss of this family you're talkin' about!
@kdizzle9013 күн бұрын
So glad they cut this
@snuffthisrooster7043Ай бұрын
One of the things I dont like about the movie is how much worse it made alot of the show characters. Yes they were bad guys but most of them had some kind of redeemable qualities and were relatable. Johnny Boy in the show was shown as charismatic and Junior was still pretty intelligent and had wisdom despite his insecurities. In the movie, Johnny Boy is just a grumpy asshole and Junior is already senile in his 30's. The writers probably don't like that there's fans who supposedly idolize these characters but at the same time being likeable and charming is literally part of what they do.
@tony_dogs3 күн бұрын
The way I read it is that the flashbacks we see of characters in The Sopranos are just flashbacks, they're people's memories which are bound to be biased whereas MSON shows all these characters for what they really are
@memedealermikey3 күн бұрын
@@tony_dogsyeah but now you’re doing the writers job for ‘em. I didn’t think that until after I left the theater, when I had to rationalize what I just watched.
@tonytoes03 күн бұрын
Go back and watch the show, something that no one ever seems to comment on(except me apparently) is that the show loved to show an innocent person killed by a character before the character is killed. Christopher his writer friend, Vito the guy whose car he hit, Bobby the guy in a custody fight, Ralph killed Tracee(and the horse) Jackie Junior killed Sunshine, Bobby Senior Carlos(the guy with Mustang Sally) as far as the show shows was only guilty of being Mustang Sally's friend. Probably missing some.
@magicmoonmonke2 күн бұрын
Johnny being that way makes sense
@bigvinnie32 күн бұрын
@@tonytoes0 To be fair he did make a smart ass remark lol
@xPhenom41x3 күн бұрын
Might be a fake script. Chase did this for the original Sopranos show. I think it was mentioned in the "The Wise Guys" doc.
@magicmoonmonke2 күн бұрын
Yeah, but I dont know if this is the fake script Id want getting leaked out...
@dougfraser772 күн бұрын
You mean the episode where the US Navy contacts Tony and has him serve aboard a nuclear sub where he eventually takes part in a mutiny?
@HOTD108_2 күн бұрын
@@dougfraser77No spoilers!
@nikolaimyhre1187Күн бұрын
Six F'ing seasons, and then you have this little pygmy thing in Newark. There's no scraps in MY scrapbook.
@Livio2062 күн бұрын
"Let me tell you who's not a good kid, that niece of mine." Junior Soprano
@Big_Al_the_Greek2 күн бұрын
That has nothing to do with this filthy but CANCELLED script!!!
@jslaughterofthesoul49392 күн бұрын
Damn, Livio, still have a CD from way back. 🫡
@Pezint2 күн бұрын
I just saw that scene recently, and it was a perfect deflection away from Richie trying to get support to assassinate Tony. And Junior's delivery was real like he was mad about the 10$ still, so we really don't need this filth to corrupt the original series, which is far from clean with Johnnycakes, the half-jew half-black taking Tony's daughter's body and self-worth, and tony saying it's ok to be gay in prison.
@TheLastSane12 күн бұрын
@@Pezint I think you are all just pissed because it wouldn't fit with your view on how these things happen because that is informed solely by movies and tv. Realistically its pretty accurate. This idea of "Noble Mafia" is moronic, and entirely fictional.
@Pezint2 күн бұрын
@@TheLastSane1 I want a show that is enjoyable to watch and doesn't make me disgusted with a PDF file main character. You think you are enlightened because you don't think TV and movies are real? Ok, you must not watch anything then, why are you here and discussing a TV show? To normalize pdf usage and to delight in it.
@airconditionedrelco70993 күн бұрын
i feel like david chase thinks the audience is fucking stupid so he just goes on weird offshoots of what the main story was about
@kitb95043 күн бұрын
The man is certainly brilliant but he's become a pretentious grifter in his later years.
@airconditionedrelco70993 күн бұрын
@kitb9504 yeah he especially has a wild hair across his ass in those interviews
@TheNotoriousMrDee2 күн бұрын
Seems disrespectful to me. Like he didn't try to have fun with fans about mysteries like the Russian interior decorator; he insulted people who kept asking and gave a really sarcastic answer lol. I get it, after years it's probably annoying but people just really like his show.
@OscarRamirez-cd4qi3 күн бұрын
We all know. Uncle Jun is in the Muff
@EMCeezy943 күн бұрын
Only thing he's guilty of is being a bushman of the khalahri
@BlaccSuave3 күн бұрын
Did i say muff? I meant rough
@Tsunatki3 күн бұрын
🎵 South of the Border, Down Mexico Wayyyy 🎵
@kevincarter20202 күн бұрын
If he whistles in the wheat field in A minor then he can't be part of this social club no more. That much I do know
@NicDoesDumbThings2 күн бұрын
Anyone smell fish?
@SecondFleshMusic2 күн бұрын
Quasimodo could’ve never predicted this.
@mikederucki3 күн бұрын
The movie was bad enough, can you imagine? David Chase must have almost drown in 3 inches of water since 2007
@glowing5713 күн бұрын
Junior by name, Junior by predilection.
@mhern573 күн бұрын
Deleted scenes are deleted for a reason. And in this case it was deleted because it would have changed everything and nothing needed to be changed. Thankfully they recognized that and avoid ruining Junior's and the Soprano's Legacy for everyone
@redacted97233 күн бұрын
Out of respect for the show and the opinions of real fans like Cineranter, I have never watched the Many Saints and don't plan to.
@ClaytonTheCracker3 күн бұрын
David Chase remarked the ones that he should have watched the movie before writing the show making it non-canon
@iamamish2 күн бұрын
David Chase: "I want to make a movie about the Jersey race riots" Studio: "Hmm - how about you make a Sopranos movie instead?" Chase: "Eh, no, I want to make a movie about the race riots" Studio: "How about this - you should make a movie about both? You can make your race riot movie, but we can call it a 'Sopranos movie'? Just rename the characters!" Chase: "Brilliant idea!"
@Balbuccijoey2 күн бұрын
How much betrayal can i take?!
@andrewfernandez74102 күн бұрын
We can't have Junior here at our social club no more. That much I do know.
@GothamKnight846612 күн бұрын
Social club? He's gotta go!
@robharrison81392 күн бұрын
This would've completely ruined a great character. It shouldn't have even been considered.
@chapman37132 күн бұрын
Janice took acid once. She looked over at her Uncle June and laser beams were shooting out of his eyes,
@j-rey-2 күн бұрын
Then she ate mushrooms. Stuffed mushrooms. A whole platter.
@candle-jack3 күн бұрын
I would have found it hard to believe Janice would blast someone for hitting her, but she would let Uncle Junior make it that long into old age.
@TheHarbingerofAutism3 күн бұрын
The story says she completely repressed it to the point that it took hallucinogenic drugs for her to unintentionally remember. If the story had remained, then it's likely she would've repressed them again, after her talk with Dickie, as it could be explained that she was still under the influence of the drugs when she told him. Also, childhood abuse is not as easy to overcome, as you make it seem. I'm no psychiatrist, but that much is easy to understand. There's a difference between experiencing abuse as a helpless child who can't begin to fathom why something like that is happening vs. experiencing abuse as an adult who can understand things like that.
@Geileguru3 күн бұрын
Janice tried to kill him when she was young. She didn’t put the gas out in his kitchen. Junior caught her putting the flame out
@candle-jack2 күн бұрын
@TheHarbingerofAutism Who said anything about overcoming the trauma? It's her psychological makeup that made Janice pull out a weapon. I'm saying within the framework that Janice, as a character, is depicted in the show, it is hard to believe she would let Junior live happily in front of her face. If not, with her own hands, she would have gotten someone to do it. It would be hard for me to reconcile that idea with Janice from the show. Also, repression is not, as matter of fact, an idea in psychology like it is in TV shows and movies. To add double repression (full repression again after recovering the memory) is a dubious prospect.
@MisplacedMelonin3 күн бұрын
Many saints catches not pitches. David chase too...definitely a fanuke. My estimation of him as a man started and stayed on the bottom, like Chase 😂
@kitb95043 күн бұрын
His recent Sopranos documentary's take on Gandolfini was also shameless.
@MisplacedMeloninКүн бұрын
@kitb9504 I didn't see it but I believe you and I won't be watching it lol
@paulie-Gualtieri.3 күн бұрын
Credit to Cineranter for a fascinating episode. Thank F it didn't happen.
@zackthezabarak7392 күн бұрын
Thank god they realized how ridiculous this idea was and cut it. Thank God they didn’t ruin the character
@coreytrevor19202 күн бұрын
“Little boys and eggs? Why didn’t I order that” Cut line from uncle june
@hesnotquitedead3 күн бұрын
This feels like it came out of a different movie, and not something made *for* the Sopranos universe.
@griffinsalmon57982 күн бұрын
This would be a fine plot if this was a standalone mob movie, but its disgusting to retroactively destroy Uncle jun's character.
@DubsUp-pf9xz2 күн бұрын
Jr being a pedophile would be ridiculous. Now, if they had the missing brother, Heracles Soprano, the one with mental health issues in the film saying him being caught with a kid, that would be something.
@BlakeJortles2 күн бұрын
And these reactions are why people are so traumatized by sex crimes. It breaks people's brains and they victim shame. I dated a woman who's cousin was raped , in the 90s!!! And her family had to leave Naples for rome because this 13 year old "brought her family shamed" by being raped. In the 1990s! You don't own these scumbag characters, you'll have to write your own story where they are all grandfatherly wise killers like don Corleone. Who were good people! I mean, you gotta kill a few horses and prostitutes to make an omelet. But otherwise good people.
@patrickdukart3298Күн бұрын
It would make more sense thay Janice's therapist put those ideas in her head, repressed memory style...and that's what leads to hus hatred of psychologists
@MrMoralTurpitude3 күн бұрын
If I were Italian I would find this joke of a film HIGHLY offensive! Now Chase was going to make JR a Peado on top of Jr ordered Dickie killed which was never hinted in the Series!
@anon24272 күн бұрын
I am Italian and David Chase is self hating paesano. He even changed his last name and constantly shits on us. Pathetic
@gusess57432 күн бұрын
@@MrMoralTurpitude 🤣🤣🤣 peak snowflake comment
@BlakeJortles2 күн бұрын
Lol like the Sopranos should be a source of pride.
@Pezint3 күн бұрын
Chase wanted to redeem the Janice character by inserting psychological trauma into her childhood, he chose Junior because he was unmarried without kids and wasn't shown to be a ladies man and had those glasses. Could you imagine what this would do to those glasses? He definitely made that movie under the direction to kill the sanctity and masculinity of the franchise. I know it's a crime show but it's counter-culture in it's portrayal of race, sex, and women etc. all the manipulations of our current day.
@kitb95043 күн бұрын
In other words, he went woke and backfired. Worse, it's gone degenerate.
@Pezint3 күн бұрын
@@kitb9504 It's about destroying the integrity and legacy of the show and by extension any message people can glean from it today. The Adriana actress just did an interview last month saying how a recently documentary made James gandofini out to be a really bad guy for no reason. Sopranos was already woke with johnncakes, the "black jew" at college having sex and treating tony's daughter like an afterthought. And Tony saying it's ok to be gay in prison.
@villiannewyork2 күн бұрын
If you wanna add that element to it whatever I guess, not that I think it adds much. But to have it be Uncle Jun is just insane and disgusting.
@Pezint2 күн бұрын
@@villiannewyork The undertone of Junior ordering the hit on Chris father's and Paulie or that cop Chris killed not being the one who did it also changes the tone of the series. And chase said, "I should have watched the series again before writing the movie". You can't add something into the canon that doesn't even remember or account for what came before. I mean you can do it but the integrity of the show is severely damaged from the chaotic tone shifts, retcons, and implications.
@alantyndall852 күн бұрын
He's been to priests about it. He could probably get a letter from his church.
@kevinwilt39182 күн бұрын
When Jr. found out about this he was going to have Dave Chase whacked at Vesuvio. I mean being a bushman of the Kalahari is bad enough.
@RogueMinaj3 күн бұрын
no way i stayed til the end, this shit is really disturbing
@vicente87052 күн бұрын
It reads like a sick and twisted fan fiction I really wish this didn’t even leak
@irishmossdubwise3 күн бұрын
That's the boss of this family you're talkin bout pal
@memedealermikey3 күн бұрын
the worst part is how good the scene actually is. The dialogue really fits the characters, the tone is just right. But good lord, they should tell this kind of story with new original characters. I feel like they’re shoving it in there just because they *had* to make a sopranos movie
@procommentary-d1m3 күн бұрын
Jununcle Junior was my favourite character.
@MikeB-kq9hv2 күн бұрын
"Your brother's kid?! You're an animal...just like that Blundetto kid whatever happened there"
@The-Wolf-with-no-name2 күн бұрын
'Allow me to compound your misery'... damn it Cinerant you certainly did that with this pygmy thing.
@josephst.george78412 күн бұрын
This may be the worst idea David Chase ever had. If they did this, I think the movie would’ve been considered even worse than it already is.
@joemccandless12782 күн бұрын
The Junior we know would wait like patience on a monument for you to turn 18.
@Luigiman29112 күн бұрын
This concept feels like it belongs in a Fanfic or something
@JeremyHurtt3 күн бұрын
Explains the obsession with varsity athletes, and their makings.
@fornogoodreason5513 күн бұрын
3:20 "use to be" chomo's don't stop being chomos.
@michaelgates94783 күн бұрын
I certainly didn’t know about this. And now I do…
@e.zbabytv85743 күн бұрын
I’m SO happy they scrapped that. I would have hated the movie so much more. And by the way I love your puns and quotes you use 🤣🤣
@Jlahandle2 күн бұрын
Nothing surprises me anymore with this story.
@mastereppsreturns65862 күн бұрын
These writers--they even suggested Junior and kids... TFOOO! That motherless...
@JosephMan4852 күн бұрын
Such motherless motherf*ckery, and slander, if you ask me...
@Kira1Lawliet2 күн бұрын
Cutting this was a good decision not just because it feels like out-of-nowhere shock value, but also because what happened in the finished cut not only feels so much like what Junior would do, but it was the ONE part of the movie that felt true to the spirit of The Sopranos. Junior has Dickie whacked for nothing more than a slight against his ego. And this coming from a series where 90% of the tragedy and conflict that happens is a result of gossip, hearsay, bruised egos, or the ever-treacherous "breakin' balls".
@foxyhooligans3 күн бұрын
Was probably a fake script like they did with Season 6
@joezee01202 күн бұрын
this was probably HBO's idea
@FFVogter.-em6zz3 күн бұрын
That would out of character for Junior.
@CarryTheThree2 күн бұрын
You wanna know what it is?.. I'll tell ya what it is... It's anti-Italian discrimination.
@David-fd6db3 күн бұрын
I can’t even watch the movie and don’t even consider it apart of the Sopranos.. however… the fact that Uncle Joey Diaz is init, does crack me up lol
@FatrickAteman2 күн бұрын
"Ever hear the joke about the Italian-American screenwriter? He gave them a script they couldn't understand."
@jonrobbin1703 күн бұрын
It would have completely destroyed the Uncle Junior character and peppered future viewings and rewatches of The Sopranos with the disturbing negativity
@williamlangeii4012Күн бұрын
Dude, I normally love your videos. However, you're cracking me up on this one. You're actually mad, disgusted about a part of the movie that you're glad they didn't add. This should be a video about how great of a choice that was. Also, as movies are being written, all kinds of odd ideas are explored.
@NickyMetropolis13132 күн бұрын
6 seasons on hbo and then this pygmy thing in theaters
@CapUnlimited2 күн бұрын
It’s so horrible it’s not canon in my mind
@ATFADL2 күн бұрын
Damn it. I was trying to figure out how to phrase that joke, and you nailed it.
@mashokaise68812 күн бұрын
This is just total slander on Junior. Junior was far from an angel, but he was a good man around the kids and a great uncle.
@ryandonovan52053 күн бұрын
Junior didn't have the making of a windowless van owner😂
@drunkdave56773 күн бұрын
Hold up. Janice is 8 years old in this scenario? This is at the end of the movie? Janice is older than Tony and Tony is a teenager in the latter half of the movie. And she really did acid at 8 years old? Makes no sense to me even as an early draft.
@paulie-Gualtieri.3 күн бұрын
The acid unlocked suppressed memories
@ClaytonTheCracker3 күн бұрын
It would've taken place later in the timeline I'm sure
@Xenaman2 күн бұрын
🤦🤦🤦that happened in the past.... is that so hard to understand? The acid unlocked here suppressed memory and triggered here PTSD. Janice tells Montisanto what happened WHEN she was 8 years old.
@VictorNieves-o3o2 күн бұрын
No. Janice would’ve been a teen, but she recalled the abuse from when she was 8.
@drunkdave56772 күн бұрын
Yes, thank you everyone. I misunderstood. I thought he touched her both some time ago and then again when she was doing the acid. Next time I won't play minesweeper as I watch the video.
@flameguy3416Күн бұрын
Many scenes in Newark felt unnecessary
@psychobiddy3 күн бұрын
I think Chase wanted to redeem Livia and Janice in the film. And that's fine as an idea, they were presented too much like one-dimensional villains on the show. And both of their behavior could actually be the result of trauma. But if THAT was route he wanted to take, he should've introduced a whole new character as the molester. Maybe Livia's father and Janice's grandfather (it would explain Janice's and Livia's complex relationship as well to have them be bonded by this shared trauma). But NOT completely destroy an already established and generally well-liked character. That's the worst idea I've ever heard. Plus, none of Janice's and Junior's interactions on the show would make any sense if this were true.
@tonytoes02 күн бұрын
I think there is a knee jerk reaction among some people to make any evil done by women to be the result of athe woman being victimized by a man. Are there any female villains in pop culture who are just evil?
@allgonewrongful2 күн бұрын
@@tonytoes0 That's a fair point.
@ShaunHopkinsAVFC2 күн бұрын
What a nonsensical garbage plot line. Thank God they didn’t put that in the movie. It would’ve turned that movie from a misfire into legitimately one of the worst ever made.
@andresnoneya2 күн бұрын
Like Chris Rock said, there’s drunk uncle a drug uncle and **** uncle….
@theknifesong2 күн бұрын
Many Saints needed more forced interracial romance scenes
@adhc85602 күн бұрын
Yes, because they were so realistic.
@zhoutorres26773 күн бұрын
More proof that The Sopranos directors never watched the show before writing The Many Saints of Newark. It wouldn't have made sense both plot and character arc wise. Timeline got fucked up.
@NuncNuncNuncNunc2 күн бұрын
David Chase, the creator of The Sopranos never watched The Sopranos before writing The Many Saints of Newark? Note: writers write, directors director, sometimes it is the same person. Chase directed two episodes and wrote 24. Konner, the cowriter of The Many Saints wrote two episodes and directed none.
@blurredlenzpictures32512 күн бұрын
Theres nothing in the show to suggest Junior is a weirdo?? Ok buddy.
@calistudent63353 күн бұрын
I like it, it gives Junior an arc like Noah.
@sean55582 күн бұрын
Noah ? 🤦♂️
@calistudent63352 күн бұрын
@@sean5558 Noah. He had an arc. The dinosaurs didn't fit on it so now they're extinct.
@terrymiller1112 күн бұрын
The prequel Junior looked more like a classic "one of those" than the one in the show. Any, this is a horrible plot. David Chase is getting the "George Lucas" side eye from me, now.
@lambrosk37903 күн бұрын
Sounds more like Hollywood trying to make a confession.
@sonofironside91352 күн бұрын
Yep, you've nailed it!!!!!!!!
@iahmed3 күн бұрын
I feel like I have been stabbed in the heart.
@jasondouglas1522 күн бұрын
Janice was always a scammer , im hoping this was her lying for attention... like someone on steve wilcos
@WallOrange3 күн бұрын
in all these videos about TMSON i have never seen even one person comment about the black main character. what a flop
@sonofironside91352 күн бұрын
Chase is JUDAS! He trashed his own, considerable legacy, on the alter of woke, leftist-liberal propaganda - I've come to despise him, and his ilk!!!!!!!!
@thomasspengler90442 күн бұрын
It does not feel like Janice’s character at all to bring her step children around the man that abused her as a child. She attacks a woman at a children’s soccer game because the woman’s child was too rough with Sofia. And we’re supposed to believe she would then bring that same child around Junior for Sunday dinner? The same woman that gunned down Richie and pushed Ralph down a flight of stairs is too scared to cut junior out of her and her Children’s lives?
@ChosenOne19912 күн бұрын
The movie was an abomination. A trash piece of shit waste of time. They butchered the characters & background stories. Made a bullshit DEI plot which made no fuckin sense. Woke Joked the whole story. Going from having the mob get smashed by low level black st hoods. Which would never have happened in the 70s. They wouldn't have dared. Especially during the height of the mobs power. Then a Black riot that had absolutely nothing to do with the mob. No I'll will towards the cast though. Alessandro Nivolo was fantastic as Dickie. Thank God they didn't do that to Juniors character. The whole movie was a shit show. Chase needs to redeem himself. He lost his touch by GAF about what people think. Instead he should have gone his old way by not GAF. Never compromising his characters & stories. For cheap studio propaganda agenda's.
@Deeeeezeeeee2 күн бұрын
Junior was many things!!! A Clam eater yes! Mr Maggoo Yes? But these allegations are Slander if you ask me lol