How South Africa Became an Apartheid State - Cold War DOCUMENTARY

[@TheColdWarTV]

It has come to our attention that the term "coloured" in South Africa does not have the pejorative connotation that is heavily associated with it in North America. We would like to take this opportunity to state that we have made a mistake regarding this and apologize for any confusion or misunderstanding.

[@callanadamwilliams8200]

Thank you for reading the comments and realising your error. Please note as Coloured South Africans we find the term Mixed race to be offensive. Why? Because it erases our history. Coloured South Africans are specifically decendants of Slaves, indiginous Khoisan, Europeans and Asians. We are "mixed" but we have created our own language and culture over the past 300 years, in Latin America these people are called all kinds of things but you would never call them mixed race. Here we are called Coloured. Trevor Noah for example is an actual mixed race South African(white father and Black mother) but he is not considered to be Coloured because Coloureds are a cultural group that is distinct from white, black and Indian South Africans. Many Coloured South Africans felt the brunt of Apartheid because many were racially ambigious and people from the same family could easily pass for white while other looked more black or Indian but because of the cultural aspect no one in South Africa really gets confused by what a Coloured person is.

[@cwilliamlewis]

That's interesting. Here in Brazil the preferred term is 'negro'. "Preto", which is Portuguese for "black" is considered offensive. Fascinating stuff. Thanks!

[@DouglasEdward84]

It's not even offensive in North America, we use "People of Color", which is "Colored People" backwards.

[@bskiez]

Elon Musk that explains why he tweets in such a far right sense the society of Apartheid South Africa he grew up in.

[@bskiez]

We all make mistakes, that's why if you have a team(cause you keep writing WE) they should always recheck after editing.

[@armaansahgal6449]

Honestly, in a South African context, calling coloured folks mixed is more likely to offend. You’re way off on this one. Also, while Asian-Black collaboration was an important feature of the anti-apartheid movement, Gandhi himself was extremely racist to Blsck folks.

[@bri1085]

​@@almondandfriendsthere's no suggestion he renounced those beliefs

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

@@bri1085 maybe that's why he collaborated with black independence party or you just came here without watching video?

[@bri1085]

@@ShubhamMishrabro you're watching the video without getting any context on it. Gandhi left South Africa in 1920, the collaboration between the ANC and Ghandi's party happened in the 1950s. So not only was Ghandi not in the country, he was dead at that point.

[@joKer7507]

@@bri1085 🖖

[@Gnosis639]

​@Eamon S did he ever denounce those views? If he did not then I, and many others, do not believe those ideals ever changed.

[@mattsingh_]

It’s worth adding that the “Dutch” settlers also came from what’s now Belgium (at the time still part of the Netherlands). Presumably as a result, the modern Afrikaans language seems to be closer to Flemish than to Hollands

[@smegheadGOAT]

@Grote ScheißeJa.

[@Q_QQ_Q]

afrikaans is a colonial language having words from alll colonies

[@Kaasschaaf1991]

Flemish = Dutch

[@Svensk7119]

@Grote Scheiße I wondered why the Swiss Sergeant nicknamed Dutchy, Frederick Schiess(sp) was at Rourke's Drift.

[@lm_b5080]

not necessarily, my ancestors were a VOC lawyer from amsterdam and VOC sailor from germany

[@stephenbond5155]

No mention of "verwoed" the architect of apartheid. Who was finally assassinated by a white Greek south African who was angry he couldn't marry his coloured girlfriend .

[@ToastSoon4808]

Whites could marry coloureds - they just had to live in a coloured suburb. Where your greek theory comes from is new to me. But dont worry to reply - I'm quite saturated with all this bickering about race and skin color.

[@MAGAISKLAN]

@@ToastSoon4808Whites could not marry coloureds.

[@luhellin196]

@@ToastSoon4808 black men could marry white ladies?

[@ToastSoon4808]

@@luhellin196 yes. Anybody of any ethnicity can marry each other - you should know that by now?

[@luhellin196]

@@ToastSoon4808 back then? I came to understand that it was once considered a crime.

[@simonh6371]

Whoa already at 1:55 I have to correct you...the slave underclass of the Boers weren't really native Africans, at least from the Cape...they were a mix of slaves brought from the Dutch East Indies, black slaves of the Portuguese taken from other parts of Africa and captured by the Dutch on Portuguese slave ships, and a few native KhoiKhoi and San...hence their descendants called ''coloureds'' can also be known as ''Cape Malay''. You are going to take some flak from South African coloureds for implying that the term ''coloured'' is somehow offensive. Whilst this may be the case in the US, it certainly isn't in SA, and South African coloureds are very proud of being classified as such and will be offended by the implication that this term, which they themselves use with pride, is itself offensive.

[@simonh6371]

Ah okay I already started typing my comment before you wrote your comment correcting yourself on the term coloureds.

[@Gidi66]

12:16 Coloured isn't racist nor offensive, it's used today in South Africa and is preferred by the people it applies to instead of calling them mixed race, they will call you out if you call them mixed race, I have seen plenty of people get the shit kicked out of them for calling a coloured a mixed race person, people have claimed the word as their race, same with Afrikaner is used by all white South Africans and the word Boer is now viewed as a racial slur.

[@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e]

Right. An entirely different nation than let's say... The United States of America, where that word has severe historical roots and connotations in American society. This entire argument of how "but colored isn't offensive in South Africa" is really just a gateway into making the n-word more acceptable. Because that's where this all inevitably leads to.

[@saddemgargouri]

Like Literal civil rights era Black american leaders would use that term colored and the term Negro to describe a black skinned American . If People like MLK and A. Philip Randolph found the term fine , who am i to disagree with them . Sure they went of fashion , but i wouldn't say offensive by any means

[@keitatsutsumi]

You guys need to realize they don’t necessarily think it’s offensive, but they’re doing it to avoid getting demonetized by KZbin.

[@Game_Hero]

I thought coloured people also identified as Afrikaners? Or is it more of a linguistic reason (ie speakers of Afrikaans)?

[@rowanrosenberg3945]

@@Game_Hero The ones I know would all consider Afrikaners to be a term reserved for white people who speak afrikaans

[@potgieterhuis1469]

coloured in not considered a racial term in South Africa. it's even used on official government documents.

[@wellthen4128]

I was so confused because I was listening to the video and not watching and he blurts out a "slur", I thought he meant the "k" word

[@markushaahr9194]

Idk about that. Depends on how and who you call it. What other words have been used otherwise?

[@zazaza903]

We are officially white,black and clouded South Africans. Its what we are so we are proud of .

[@BPD1586]

Met a "Coloured" SA girl while on holiday in Thailand...she was simply stunning with the cutest accent.

[@tsdobbi]

I mean, in the US "Negro" and "colored" were not considered "racial slurs" at one time, however, they became outdated and today would generally be considered offensive.

[@TheCapnCanuck]

I understand not wanting to say the word coloured, but that is what mixed-race people in South Africa were called and still call themselves. There's no reason to not say this in a South African context.

[@ferideneziri8831]

I used to work for UN and Africans used to refer to children of mixed race coloured

[@telcobilly]

I lived in SA '68-'79, coloured was just an identifying term, not an insult.

[@henktwerda9694]

Ofcourse one important reason there was little criticism from other countries at the beginning of apartheid, was that there was still segregation in the USA and inequality in colonies of European countries, like Britain and France in 1948/1949.

[@AnnaKaunitz]

Most of Europe was bombed into pieces in 1945. Most people were busy trying to survive, find food, loved ones, rebuilding their homes, get back home from being displaced etc. And the east and west block quickly formed creating more problems. But SA did get increasingly criticised in the 1960s and onwards, the international boycotts and sanctions forced the regime out.

[@Jalenlane93]

​@@downunderrob Apartheid didn't end until the 90s

[@williamthebonquerer9181]

Segregation was awful but apartheid was far more than that, it made people non citizens in their own country

[@samwill7259]

@@williamthebonquerer9181 Black Americans in the Jim Crow era were only citizens on paper. They weren't allowed to vote, they couldn't safely protest or speak. They only got counted as a full person on a census, that's all

[@baneofbanes]

@@downunderrob yah not when all of those nations had dismantled their racial hierarchies before South Africa did.

[@NeroPiroman]

coloured is an official term, censoring it is as dumb as censoring african american in USA

[@martanoconghaile]

12:16 I knew a man from South Africa, a security guard. He referred to himself as a 'Cape Coloured'. He said it's not an offensive term, at least to him. They were the descendants of Dutch cowboys and African women and speak Afrikaans today and typically reside in the large Western and Eastern Cape provinces. Kaapse Kleurlinge in Afrikaans. The derogatory word is 'Kaffir'. Once again, American sensibilities dominate the world!

[@olsaffa7679]

Just something I can add. Your friend probably is 40 years old or younger. These terms are unlawful now post 1994. The derogatory term he referred to would have been the exception. The main term used, distinguishing Black people from Coloured people would be able shortening / derivative of "hottentot". Have a look at Wikipedia, for more on these words. The "K-word" comes from Arab slave traders calling black people this to signify that they are "non-believers" and can be enslaved. Arabs weren't to enslaved fellow believers, but anyone else, including Christians, were fair game. The

[@annavanwyk1858]

They are mostly descended from Malay slaves brought here during colonial rule, among other groups

[@bri1085]

​@@annavanwyk1858in all honesty they're descended from various groups.

[@thephoenix756]

​@@annavanwyk1858 It would have been an even bigger L for Africa if they were primarily a result of Dutch invaders and African women

[@johnscanlan9335]

I'm a very proud American, but I'm horrified by the stupid level of self-absorption that far too many Americans have. They completely refuse to understand that other people may choose to use different words to describe similar situations.

[@larryryan8742]

From everything I know about South Africa. The term “Coloured” is perfectly acceptable to use and appears to be the preferred term for most mixed people.

[@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e]

It's almost as if there's some cultural and historical differences between SA and the US.

[@matthew1882]

@@XOPOIIIO wut???

[@matthew1882]

@@XOPOIIIO no dude, where did you hear that black face is acceptable in South Africa? That doesn't fly here.

[@simonh6371]

@@XOPOIIIO I think you mean in the Netherlands, where Zwarte Piet (Black Pete) is Sinterklaas' (Santa Claus') assistant and every year on 6th December parades featuring both characters are popular.

[@matthew1882]

@@XOPOIIIO bro 'Die Antwoord' is just weird.

[@juanzulu1318]

12:15 How can we learn history if we are afraid to speak or write historical terms? I find this development quite dangerous to be honest.

[@Gidi66]

That term is in widely use today, it didn't have a bad thing about it, even today people use it, it's similar as to how black Americans claim the n word is their own, coloureds are today a preferred word to describe them, as it's viewed as a race of people, Calling them mixed race is considered an insult and in some cases can get you punched in the face.

[@Holland1994D]

Coloured is even censored? Haha

[@simbamartens7192]

​@@Gidi66 It's not like the n-word with an a. Coloured can be said by anybody including non-Coloureds. It's even on government forms. It's like saying "Caucasian"

[@Gidi66]

@@simbamartens7192 no it's not, here in South Africa, their are 4ish race's, Black, Coloured, White, Asian. There is a rasict word that's often compared to the American n word, we call it the k word, however due to continuing use of it as a racial slur the word Boer is now also counted as a racial slur, the use of the k word and the Boer (with racial context as it just means farmer otherwise) can get you sent to jail. As I mentioned as afro Americans love claiming themselves as black, the coloureds love refering to themselves as coloured, quoting a coloured friend of mine "you can take that all non whites are black shit and fuck of back to America, I'm coloured and proud"

[@Gidi66]

@@Holland1994D it's not in South Africa, perhaps in the USA, but not in South Africa, that's like trying to censor the word Afro Americans.

[@ryanthomas887]

Great video! Also, thank you everyone for your comments and insights based on your experiences. This is still a very sensitive topic but I am thankful to those willing to educate and those willing to learn towards greater understanding and empathy.

[@waynewilliams3574]

The Cape Colony flourished because of slaves brought from Malaysia, Bengal India, Sri Lanka, Madagascar and Mauritius along with San(Khoi/Nama poeples) and East & West African slaves. Some slaves married white settlers or had children with them. Over a period of 150 years these admixture of ethnicities creolized into "coloured" identity. Apartheid was engineered to classify coloureds because of our universal appearance. This video like so many others on various media platforms just leaves out our part in South African history or society and is not even shared in school curriculums.

[@bri1085]

Can you really say coloured people have a universal appearance? They come in all sorts of shades from olive skintones too some being as dark as they come. Trevor Manuel and Bryan Habana don't look that much alike

[@leigh4326]

Also please don’t leave out that native people were stolen from their homelands and reclassified Coloured. Many in my area were Xhosa, Batswana, Khoi etc with no mixing of Asian or European blood. My family wasn’t mixed, we are Khoi, San and Tswana but the apartheid regime choose to do what it did because native South Africans were coming out light skinned so the paper bag test couldn’t work. That’s why later the pencil test was introduced.

[@leigh4326]

@@bri1085 oh yes you are so right! You make such great points. I love it! Dj Switch, Elana Afrika don’t look like Mark Lottering or Kim Englebrecht. In Coloured communities there is a lot of colourism and texturism but not all Coloured people are mixed with Malay as you have said also not all Coloured people speak Afrikaans for example in Durban they only speak English.

[@Rose-n8k7n]

That's why Asian Indians called kullies and Kaffir

[@John-cg1ex]

The South African Communist Party was the only multi-racial group in South Africa and provided the most opposition to Apartheid

[@darkgalaxy5548]

Not so! SACP was an "also ran" in the Liberation struggle.

[@John-cg1ex]

The SACP were among the first in the liberation struggle both inside and outside of SA. Remember Joe Slovo, Ruth First, Chris Hani among many.

[@darkgalaxy5548]

​​@@John-cg1ex I'm sure you're aware the ANC predates the SACP, didn't enjoy the popularity of the ANC, & had no military wing. I'm not saying they weren't involved in the struggle, or they didn't have some notable people in their ranks. But they certainly didn't provide the most opposition to the Apartheid regime.

[@John-cg1ex]

Joe Slovo was the military commander of Imkoto ViSizwa, the armed wing of the ANC. He was a leading communist. The SACP provided the the connections overseas for critical support for the liberation struggle. Leading communists like the First family provided needed support and resources.

[@darkgalaxy5548]

@@John-cg1ex You didn't mention that Joe Slovo was also an ANC member, nor that he grew disenchanted with socialism & didn't believe it to be a model for post apartheid South Africa. And the SACP was of course allied with the ANC during the struggle, you overstate their importance in gathering overseas support.

[@Cybonator]

The slaves of the Dutch weren't only Africans, many came from Dutch colonies in SE Asian, especially the Malays

[@simonh6371]

Yep and many of the African slaves i.e. ancestors of the coloureds weren't from SA, they were from other parts of Africa and were brought there when the Dutch captured Portuguese slave ships travelling to the Americas.

[@Yayanhaan123]

Especially Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), manny resistances againts VOC was exiled by VOC in Cape of Hope, SA.

[@richardcostello360]

​@@Yayanhaan123 no idea where you got that idea from......the VOC exiled their Indonesian trouble makers off the coast of Australia (we had a community of them in the Torres strait and Darwin that predated the British discovering our country)

[@edwintallis]

Colours is not a derogatory word in South Africa, only in the USA, and it isn't fully encapsulated by the term "mixed race". Coloured people have a beautiful, strong culture and unique history as a people, most often having Malaysian ancestry. Most people who have parents from different races would not be cobsidered coloured because they do not share the same culture. Like how English and Germans look the same, but are culturally very different.

[@john-darrenesterhuizen9008]

Please explain what “culture” coloured have lmao?

[@Rose-n8k7n]

😊all race is unity in South Africa not America

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

An excellent & informative video about South Africa 🇿🇦....thanks for sharing 👍🏻 👏🏻

[@ravinakuwar1407]

Calling out South African government for APARTHEID by the western government was a classic example of POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK🤣🤣. In western nations RACIAL SEGREGATION was a norm of the life even in 1970s.

[@Hongaars1969]

I dare state that it was convenient for countries like Australia to have apartheid SA to distract from their own racist segregationist policies

[@leigh4326]

Hmmm but they did it to save face meanwhile supporting apartheid 😅

[@maureenjackson2041]

Bullshit, there has never been racial segregation here in Britain you are obviously an ignoramus.

[@smr4712]

@@maureenjackson2041 All the comments on here against the boer are done by fake accounts at GCHQ in England, they are agents pretending to be black south Africans, but we all know the blacks don't go on youtube and argue in this way, we real local whites in SA know them too well and we cant be falling for propaganda and lies that divide us by our age old deceiver and oppressor the United Kingdom and the Church of England and the Vatican. .,.

[@Merle1987]

I like how he tries to not be racist and the actual result is more racist. It seems all Americans seem to think the way they see the world is the only universal and valid way to see the world.

[@strawberry7799a]

How was he racist in this video?

[@callanadamwilliams8200]

​@Tony Doe You think South Africa isn't sensitive to race? We damn well are, even more so than Americans. Unlike Americans though we don't pretend bad shit didn't happen. We confront it.

[@wavealip8059]

That ridiculous. He is American and the term is offensive in this country so how exactly is he racist for not knowing it’s not considered offensive in South Africa. Imagine watching this informative video and this slip up is what you choose to laser focus on.

[@davidsouthwick6802]

Other than David's honest mistake, do you remember anything else about this presentation? Had you not viewed it through a factual sniping scope, you may have found it as interesting & entertaining as I did.

[@juanzulu1318]

If we look at the situation of ZA today I am wondering if the living conditions for black skinned people have been really improved. It looks to me that the the conditions are worse than in the past - for both black and white skinned people.

[@chalsfo]

If they had no vote, they had been wastly better off.

[@Gidi66]

Well considering the current government stick is to blame whites and apartheid for their general ineptitude and corrupt, nothing is improving, and if nothing is improving then it can only slide backwards.

[@MisterTipp]

How exactly where they better off?

[@juanzulu1318]

@@MisterTipp i dont know, it just looks to me if I compare the living conditions in the past and now. But maybe I am wrong and everything is great now.

[@simbamartens7192]

Regarding your question some things have improved vastly and some things have remained as bad as under Apartheid. The economy expanded 3 fold since Apartheid ended, several million blacks have entered the middle class, the government build hundreds of thousands of low cost housing and of course people have equal rights and dignity not being denigrated in their own country or having their movement restricted. However much of the inequality created by Apartheid remains: most business owners and educated professionals are white, most working class people are black. Government corruption is a major obstacle to correcting these inequalities and is causing South Africa's electricity infrastructure to fail. People are now frustrated not having tasted all the fruits of the end of Apartheid leading to political polarisation.

[@willactually7509]

i hope there will be follow-up to this video explaining the role of South Africa w.r.t the Cold War. From its contribution to the Berlin air Lift, the Korean War, proxy wars in Congo and Angola, collaboration with Israel, right up to developing its own nukes!

[@omalone1169]

8:00 ethno national racial purity

[@wernervanderwalt8541]

South Africa is complex country. With a complex history. For most European and American people a lot of what is going on in SA makes no sense. For South Africans our way of life is normal. The sad fact is that it will take very long for us as a country to shake of our racialized past. After all there is 400years + of racial politics and policy to contend with.

[@mito88]

apartheid is not a complex historical event.😊

[@wernervanderwalt8541]

@@mito88 Yeah ok! Do you live in South Africa?

[@leigh4326]

Well said Werner! I couldn’t have said it better myself 👊🏽from a native South African.

[@leigh4326]

We will one day come together as one, for now we must continue fighting against the racial systematic institutions and you have said such a big part that it will all take time but let’s not forget what’s worth having takes time. For now let’s exercise Ubuntu through it all. Dankie my dear 🤗

[@chumajamesnxele106]

The system of White supremacy is the problem, apartheid has no presence in the hood.

[@pietb100]

Do you really think you can explain South Africa's 372 year history in 20 minutes ? If you do you are making a big mistake. South Africa was under British rule for 166 years from 1795 to 1961. Why did the English came to South Afica and what did they want. The boers wasn't the only people invovlved in a war with the British. What about the Americans and for that matter the rest of the world as well. Everybody just tried to get away from British rule. Why do you think Apartheid came about. After what the British did to them in both boer wars and what the boers suffered at the hands of the black tribes they came across when they decided to leave the Cape and British rule behind, it was an attempt to keep themselves save from harm. Nevertheless never forget the fact that many South Africans, as well as other commonwealth forces, also served in both world wars, with distinction I may add. The ugly word, Apartheid, was not invented by the boers, it was inherited from British Rule. Do you think the British treated them better than the black peoples of South Africa ? The Afrikaans language of the boers was known as a "kitchen language" and was only recognised as an "official" language in 1932. While white South Africans today are made out to be racists they don't complain, because they never have. All being said we are a God fearing nation and will keep on doing so. In the video I have watched you basically just touched certain points, maybe of interest, but what can you do in 20 minutes. Good luck with your next video. It will probably be the sad story of what little is left of South Africa after the "glorious" rule of the ANC. Good luck.

[@tpayne3047]

Keep 'em coming sir!

[@michaelporzio7384]

Need to mention of the "homelands" that were set up for the various black African tribes. Alan Paton's novels ("Cry the Beloved Country," "Too Late the Phalarope" ), give a good view into apartheid South Africa. Good overview, Thanks David!

[@ToastSoon4808]

Homelands were part of a project to return land to the Avrican tribes. They were i deed Republi s with their own parlament, army, police force and universities. The SA government guaranteed their budgets and they had more lenient tax laws to attract investment....which did come en force from....the Chinese. Unlike SA they were allowed to have casinos. As with everything it had challenges. I think most people were ok with it. When the ANC come to power they undid everything.....and now they scream to have their land back. SA acknowledged the African tribal kings and they receive a lot of money/royalties. It was actually amazing to see how the homeland republics grew and developed. Today its all gone.

[@loriwyoming835]

@@ToastSoon4808 That's the way I understood it. They were separated as different countries. If I was to compare it to the USA they were granted work Visas to come and work in the "white" held countries. I find it hard to see that as repression. The ANC party are a communist party and is destroying the economy of S. Africa and now inviting in China as the big saviors. I imagine it won't be long before they find out what true oppression and colonizing really is. The CCP will give little care about "equality" as most people see it. All will be equally poor and forced to labor for the "good" of all.

[@StudyWithKarabo]

​@@ToastSoon4808Yes, we want our land back wtf

[@ToastSoon4808]

@@StudyWithKarabo so what is the isuue then. You were getting land back with universities, hospital, ARMY'S and evevrything that goes with. BEAR IN MIND THAT THE NEW ANC GOVERNMENT TOOK THIS AWAY FROM YOU - - NOT THE DISGUSTING, OPPRESSING, RACIST, LAND GRABBING, HATED, DESPISED WHITE COLONISERS. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS.?

[@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm]

​@@ToastSoon4808I don't think everyone was okay with the disease called apartheid

[@Takudza]

The Malays got left out of this one. It’s always fascinated me that the Dutch hauled people from Indonesia and the that area to to exploit in the Cape.

[@daampierewiet]

My understanding is that the Dutch East India Company was quite active in the East Indies at the time, so not surprising that they would source enslaved people from there, I guess. Also, the enslaved people in the Cape came from a wide range of areas including other parts of Asia (beyond the East Indies) and Africa (beyond the area that is now South Africa). And yes, the video kind of glosses over the Cape slavery part of SA history. Forced servitude/"apprenticeship" of conquered Khoi and San people, too.

[@richardcostello360]

Considering that the Malay community the Dutch dragged out is tiny compared to the Brits job at pulling Malays and Indians out The Brit's did most of the "forced relocation" rather than the Dutch

[@Takudza]

@@richardcostello360 really? I just thought it was the Dutch. i mean they established the cape colony to resupply ships headed to what is now Indonesia i assumed they dragged a lot of the people they were subjugating their back for some very "affordable labour".

[@smegheadGOAT]

British started it in the Kimberly mines and the use of colored is not a racist term.

[@killer3000ad]

The story of South Africa isn't over. The country's infrastructure is collapsing under the corrupt rule of successive ANC governments.

[@suzygirl1843]

That's done on purpose. ANC also takes money from the former Apartheid regime colonizers

[@sunblanket2925]

That's becauseANC does have the privilege of cheap labour like white people there's labour laws now, so...

[@ohlumapacmannani4991]

Coz we never got economic freedom and ANC was bribed not to say anything they will be rich

[@Enoch940]

Thats all part of the plan . Its caused high white immigration which is intentional and as relationships grow between Russia , China , India etc etc grow , the whole of Southern Africa shall move towards and into a modern communist state.

[@glps6167]

The British took over the administration of the Cape Colony from the (then bankrupt) VOC in 1795, returned it to its legal successor, the Batavian Republic in 1802, and finally took over again from the latter in 1806.

[@magellantv]

Can't say thank you enough for going in-depth on this one.

[@markbarbeliuk8495]

There was also a lack of criticism from the rest of the world because humanity was dragging itself out of the horrors of WW2: there were millions of refugees on the move plus the Iron Curtain was coming down and major colonies were edging to independence. It was an era of displacement and colossal change in a war weary world.

[@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e]

Another banger of a video 👍🏾 Thanks for all you do.

[@CobraMustang]

Anything on the Rhodesian conflict coming up?

[@Q_QQ_Q]

he did say other african colonies .

[@Nitro_Joe]

For all the comments about the host saying, “mixed race” instead of colored, I have one question: which term will cause KZbin to de-monetize this video?

[@riaannel2766]

Nobody cares about KZbin and its woke shyte bro, call a coloured "mixed race" and said coloured will take so much offence that you end up in intensive care.

[@Edouard_Mass]

Coloured is still a ethnic group in South Africa, and Namibia, it doesn’t have a racist connotation. the K word however 😬different story. Also seem to be tiptoeing around the fact ANC was and still is a socialist party with the soviets being very supportive of ANC. As they were in involved with many of the post colonial African nations independence struggles like Zambia, Rhodesia, South West Africa, Angola and Mozambique and the DRC.

[@stratospheric37]

Well this episode was about the establishment of apartheid, not it's downfall. I don't think the ANC was socialist during the period he talks about (maybe I'm wrong about that). Also the ANC is not socialist or communist anymore, it's social democratic, it's elected president is literally a businessman come on man.

[@news26boom]

@@stratospheric37 That's like saying the CCP isn't communist anymore. The ANC is communist - they literally call each other "comrade". They're trying to pass laws to expropriate private land. You're being way too generous in calling them social democratic.

[@chris0000924]

It's actually why they ended up poor and broken they tried to copy their USSR overlords

[@bri1085]

​@@news26boomthe ANC has a literal capitalist at its head. They aren't socialist at all. Mbeki was the longest serving president and he called himself a Thatcherite. Just because they occasionally pass appearances by using socialist terminologies doesn't make them socialist. Expropriation isn't a socialist policy either, this is a video on apartheid ffs, the entire permite of land expropriation in the country comes from land grabs going back as far as the native lands acts under the British. 😊

[@filrabat1965]

The K-word is the South African version of the USA's N-word. If you're *that* curious, well - hunt down the word for yourself.

[@philliplyn2692]

Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@andremare1127]

As though "aparthite" wasn't practiced in America , Canada , Australia , New Zeeland AND THE UK in those days. It's interesting to note that all of the above countries were British colonies and racial segregation wasn't anything strange. The narrator conveniently omits this. FYI , racism is still rife in some of the above countries.

[@stephenchappell7512]

Not within the UK itself as the Magna Carta ensured equality but the self-governing colonies were a different matter

[@andremare1127]

@@contribution741 Thank you for being so precise, so pedantic, so supercilious.

[@landofthesilverpath5823]

Should be noted that the Bantu/Zulus were themselves not indigenous to SA. In fact, they were conquering Northern SA at the exact same time the Boer's were trekking north. The Zulu invasion was actually stopped by the trekkers in a short war. The only indigenous Africans in SA were/are the Khoisan bushmen, who were very small in number and who were being massacred by the incoming Bantu tribe of the Zulu. If the Boers hadnt checked the invasion of the Zulu, they may have been wiped out ifrom Northern SA. So the majority of Blacks in SA today are just as much newcomers as the whites. And most immigrated to SA over time, since after the end of the zulu wars, looking for work.

[@Tebogo16v]

This is ridiculous.firstly Bantu and Zulu are not the the same.zulu is an ethnic group that is 35 percent of percent of all black ppl.bantu is a linguistic group it has the same meaning as Slavic .it's refers to hundreds of different ethnic groups who share a common ancestors. Bantus have been in South Africa for over a thousand years before any European came. This is proven archeological evidence. Khoisan were is South Africa first and most were later assimilated into the Bantu group that's why most Bantu South Africas use click sounds in their language.

[@landofthesilverpath5823]

@bafanamahlatse1923 Just look up the Bantu expansion. Bantu's aren't native to South Africa. They have no more claim to it than Europeans. In fact, European's have more of a claim because they arrived in SA first! The Khoisan most likely would have been exterminated by the Bantu if the Europeans hadn't arrived.

[@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm]

There's a difference in being native to the African continent and being from Europe.

[@stratospheric37]

I don't see any info on the internet about the term "coloured" being racist or offensive. Perhaps you've gotten this wrong?

[@agrid2608]

Coloured just refers to a multiracial Cape-origin group label which has its crux culturally in the historic urban Asian underclass of the Cape Colony. It's basically Afrikaans (Dutch) & English speaking people of colour. It was the category of where to put any in-colony people of colour (Asian, African or mixed) who couldn't be placed into an indigenous organic culture/language like Xhosa.

[@radiorob]

There was no mention of the Huguenots who also made up a substantial proportion of what you referred to as Afrikaners. They were another oppressed group that fled to southern Africa from Europe and this is why the Afrikaans language has considerable French influence in addition to the Netherlands language, or more correctly Flemish. A well done video however the beginning contained a few inaccuracies and omissions. Whether these were intentional or not is difficult to determine given the slant of the video. We seem to ignore the social injustices of the past in societies before the invention of photography.

[@MrSihle1]

My family lost all our land and were forced to live in what was termed " locations" ... forced to leave farming to work at factories ...

[@njabulozikhali4966]

I'm sorry my brother 😔

[@sunblanket2925]

ANC's mistake was thinking we could work with white people. Those people have a superioty complex bruh, you can't work with them.

[@smr4712]

liar, British bot agent, cashing in on stirring racism.. trash

[@creatoruser736]

Ironic that the South African Indian Congress helped fight against apartheid for Black Africans when Gandhi himself didn't have a nice view of them. South Africa even today doesn't like Gandhi very much for that.

[@thelakeman2538]

The narrative around Gandhi's racism towards africans entirely revolves around statements he'd made early in his life when he first came to work in South Africa, which ignores the fact that he had completely changed as a person through the course of his time in South Africa. He was on friendly terms with prominent black figures, and publicly supported their efforts in his newspaper. Gandhi actively supported the struggle of Africans to get equal rights by the late 20s and even supported combining the efforts of Indians and Africans in South Africa later on in his life. So SAIC working with ANC was something he intended on happening.

[@USSLIBERTYREMEMBERER]

Ghandi was a diddler

[@octavianova1300]

What's rather ironic, is that in its' early years (~1850s), the Cape Colony was one of the first European-ruled territories in the world to include a voting franchise that didn't have any restrictions on the basis of race, and one of the first to ostensibly rule that the law should not discriminate on the basis of race. Wild they went from that, to eventually becoming the very historical model of an arch-white-supremacist state - to the extent that their system gave its very name to the general concept of racial segregation and subjugation in its most extreme form - and clinging to overt institutional white supremacism for decades longer than just about any other polity.

[@JanoTuotanto]

Given that "race" has never been a legal concept in continental Europe ( save Nazi Germany) that is a bit weird statement.

[@bonsummers2657]

How are things in South Africa since apartheid?

[@octavianova1300]

@@JanoTuotanto faulty point, it wasn't really a legal concept in the domestic legal systems of the continent itself true, but it absolutely was from the very beginning in just all the colonies held by the European powers

[@octavianova1300]

@@bonsummers2657 objectively better for the majority of the population than they were during apartheid

[@octavianova1300]

@@bonsummers2657 as for the minority who things might not be better for, well that's what happens when you build your prosperity on the backs of others, tough shit

[@_Ben4810]

Right up until the late 80's, South Africa was such a powerhouse of an industrial country & had major prominence on the global stage... obviously it was & remains sad that this was all built on the Apartheid system, & it's equally sad of that long slow decline of South Africa into the current day corrupt & chaotic nation it has become.

[@AntonArmsberg]

The biggest threat of the Apartheid system was that there was no black elite who had something to lose by a change of the status quo. Had the apartheid system given them a fair chance of a better life, the system would still exist today. The Apartheid system was its own worst enemy.

[@darkgalaxy5548]

Not so! There was a large elite class in the homelands, dependent on largesse from Pretoria. Apartheid was an unsustainable mess. It collapsed under its own weight.

[@smr4712]

@@darkgalaxy5548 there can ever be a a large elite class of blacks without a white sponsor and protectorate overseas, , because only us whites would stoop so low as to think we are elite.

[@jacobzaranyika9334]

I will watch this later. Thank you🙏

[@ZIZLISTO]

Thank you David, I love your channel. It will be good to do a Part - 2; from 1952 to the fall of the Berlin Wall & the South African participation in the Angolan War vs Cubans & CIA/Soviet Union involvement (Cuito Canavale)... etc and Aftermath on South Africa & Namibia. ❤

[@wernerheil6697]

EXCELLENT VIDEO & PRESENTATION !!!

[@blessedAfrikan217]

All those land needs to be taken back. Those evil don't deserve to be amongst any other human but themselves

[@megaotstoy]

5:17 this graph is basically all you need to know about the reason why South Africa, being a First World country 30 years ago, became a Third World country nowadays

[@yoloswaggins7121]

South Africa was never a first world country

[@edwardamosbrandwein3583]

​@@yoloswaggins7121It was

[@yoloswaggins7121]

@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 It wasn't

[@edwardamosbrandwein3583]

@@yoloswaggins7121 Lived there (1980-1999); therefore, I know what I'm talking about.

[@yoloswaggins7121]

@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 You clearly don't because it was never a first world country.

[@clementkong8133]

Episode on the Rhodesian Bush War please

[@boizen]

Did anyone else notice Nota on the thumbnail? its true guys, he was there during apartheid, he really is a freedom fighter

[@shadowhunterrx]

From rich bad country to poor corrupted country.

[@simbamartens7192]

You do realise South Africa is 3 - 4 times richer than it was under Apartheid? That being said corruption, inequality and crime are huge problems.

[@williamthebonquerer9181]

South Africa was corrupt under apartheid XD, the national party made sure their was no competition in elections it was hardly a democracy even ignoring apartheid

[@bastian182]

Apartheid South Africa wasn't rich the elite was rich and the white minority was middle class, just because a minority is rich, that doesn't mean an entire country is and also you think that the Aparteid wasn't corrupt?

[@jolly-rancher]

@@simbamartens7192 no it's not

[@alejandromaldonado6159]

​@@simbamartens7192 Because of sanctions

[@skiesboi]

Whilst the Afrikaners did have forays into Natal, it was colonised by the British and was never an Afrikaner Republic. To this day, it is still the province with the least number of Afrikaners because of this history.

[@astronomers]

Please correct your content. I am coloured and proud to be. It's not offensive at all. Its apart of our culture. We are the second most populous group in South Africa and we are proud of our heritage. Imagine someone told you being white or black is offensive. Whenever I travel I tell people I am coloured and they accept my culture.

[@BigBear59]

Very well and accurately presented…:

[@philipkoekemoer4705]

Next episode, How South Africa became a failed state under the ANC

[@suzygirl1843]

That's done on purpose. ANC also takes money from the former Apartheid regime colonizers

[@christhebold7691]

i'd watch that!

[@sunblanket2925]

The lack of cheap labour would be the first chapter. Second would be thinking that you could hand in hand with white people, bruh those folks have superioty complex even amongst themselves. Unfortunately for the ANC there are labour laws now, even domestic worker who white folks raped and exploited are now recognized employees

[@Drrolfski]

I live in Europe and "coloured" is not really considered racist here.

[@eddiesantos4978]

Anglo-saxon metality is really cruel. No one would ever think something like this in Brazil, even thou there was a lot of racism here. That's the same 'one drop only' nazi metality.

[@filrabat1965]

I'm not going to get into the "which people are worse" game. I'm just going to say that all cultures have evils in them - without "both sides-ing" it.

[@conradduplooy6570]

Anglo saxon? You guys housed the nazi's, south America was te place to hide if you were German. Go read up your insane history dude

[@NicholasVasconcelos-k4v]

Yeah

[@Profreegolfer]

You also need to do proper research about slavery under the Dutch. The people kept as slaves came from other Dutch colonies in Indonesia, Malaysia and Madagascar. Not native South Africans.

[@hendersongriffith3990]

Rather informative...good to see the real land owners ruling their place...🙌🙌🙌

[@Game_Hero]

human beings?

[@iska788]

Great content

[@andreidarie4076]

“Religious ethno-nationalism” Sounds like Israel to me.

[@christhebold7691]

South Africa had good relations with Israel

[@WeMayNeverKnow_2005]

@@christhebold7691 Which is ironic, considering that many supporters of the Apartheid South African government also supported White supremacy which includes the hatred of Jewish people, besides this many White Afrikaaner nationalists supported Hitler and the Nazi party during the 1930s and even opposed South Africa's involvement on the side of the allies durin WW2. Many white Afrikaaner nationalist groups also used the swastika and other Nazi regalia as part of their symbolism. All simulatainiously while supporting Israel, Ironic isnt it?

[@christhebold7691]

​@@WeMayNeverKnow_2005 As far as i know there was only one group who supported the Nazis in South Africa and the where the OssewaBrandwag. other than that I would say the average Afrikaaner hated the British more than Germany for pouting the Afrikaaner woman and children in concentration camps, during the second Boer War. Something else that is interesting, during ww2 some of the Muslim leaders in the Middle-East like Saudi Arabian ruler Ibn Saud and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini, had Cooperative political and military relationships with Germany. They shared hostilities toward common enemies, such as the United Kingdom and the French Third Republic, along with communism, and Zionism. Another key foundation of this collaboration was the anti-Semitism of the Nazis and their hostility towards the United Kingdom and France, which was admired by Arab and Muslim leaders, most notably the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini.

[@hostghostly3184]

12:16 I'd like to add that the term coloured in South Africa today does not refer to people such as Asians or any race that was misclassed during the apartheid era. It refers to a race of people called Cape-Coloureds. Yes, they are mix raced, however they have an identity of their own. The coloureds I know embrace this identity and would look at you funny if you called them anything else in terms of race. I've spoken to foreigners, when I mention coloureds they give me a strange look, just know that in today's terms it isn't used in a discriminatory manner.

[@cairylester]

Great work. Thank you for this! The joke about oppressed bell buttons hit flat for me because this is such a sobering topic. Again, great work!

[@christianbrother4724]

Genocide, poverty and instability are stains on world history.

[@PrezVeto]

Poverty and instability are the default states of nature. Wealth and stability are the standout conditions that developed basically yesterday in human history.

[@matthew1882]

I'm sure the comment section will be a barrel of laughs.

[@zazaza903]

12:17 its not recognised as racist.. Coloured is totally legit classification here in South Africa.. They all identified as such and even in official documents .. We are officially Black White and Coloured South Africans and no shame in it because that is what we are

[@charlorme9155]

there were Dutch and French Huguenots as well as germans from German south west Africa as well as Portuguese and British settlers that came from Europe. not the scope of the video but there's my 2 cents or rands.

[@leobatard]

Remember USSR was in the right of history when it comes to the liberation movement in Africa, Asia and Latin America. USA has supported the cannibal apartheid regime in South Africa and brutal fascist regime in Chile. Those are undisputable facts.

[@janboois9638]

Their is no hate in Apartheid. The correct translation of the word "apartheid" is actually "apartness". :heid" is the Afrikaans term for " ness". Happiness = gelukkigheid, fatness = vetgeid. etc, The word Apartheid, wrongly translated and wrongly pronounced as Apartheid sounds like "hate", but there is no hate, there never was. Nevertheless, I do realise that it was a horrible and unjust sytem, just like segregation in America and Australia, about which I will make a separate comment.

[@rizaradri316]

Coloured in South Africa means anyone with mixed racial background. People in South Africa are ok with this term. However, according to American mindset. Coloured is racist.

[@padawanmage71]

Bell Buttons of the World, Unite!

[@ronaldmcboggled9855]

Wow looks way better than modern South Africa.

[@sunblanket2925]

That's because the ANC never had cheap labour like Apartheid government had. There's labour laws now. The mistake that the ANC made was to think that we could hand in hand with white people. Bruh superioty complex even amingst themselves. They want black people to be slaves again. South African white people are against human rights

[@filrabat1965]

This "coloured" matter is why it's important to take a little time each day to learn about other cultures. In the US, "colored" is an offensive comment against non-whites, especially Blacks. In South Africa, "coloured" is a legitimate ethnic identifying label. They say the little things can create big misunderstandings, and this saying's definitely right.

[@masterimbecile]

These guys just woke up one day and thought “Hmm, I’m just gonna be really mean to my fellow human beings today. What’s the worst thing I can do?”

[@Mrbombastic614]

I am an Indian have no problem in saying " Gandhi was British bootlicker " period . He worked for British Army and participated in Bohr Wars alongside Whites . He considered White race superior and Blacks as inferior and barbaric in many of his letters . He was a Barrister and fought case for Indian clients and one time end up saying thay Indian are brown and coloured hence they shouldn't be treated differently than Blacks . As an Indian i disown a person like and unfortunately he is in our bank notes .

[@janrabie1890]

You cannot express an opinion on South Africa without taking the following factors into account: 1) When the Dutch arrived in 1652 they encountered people who were still living in the Bronze Age. By contrast, the first University in the Netherlands opened in Leiden in 1575. Bologna in 1088 was the first in Europe. Large parts of SA comprised of unproductive uninhabited agricultural land at the time. 2) There was an obvious difference in development between the Europeans and Africans. Could this development gap be overcome? 3) Possibly, but in SA the population grew from 15,2m in 1955 to 59m in 2020 with the vast majority being black. That is growth of 43,8m people or 288%. 4) The tax base in SA is simply too small to lift millions of people out of poverty. 5.8% of the population is paying approximately 92% of all personal tax and they are also paying about 85% of all VAT. Mathematically, it is impossible. 5) These are gigantic problems and the ANC is not able to solve them. In fact it is getting worse. 6) The great African nationalist project has failed after 29 years. The ANC neither has the best policies nor the best record of implementations.It is plagued by corruption and a poverty of ideas. It merely has the majority of the votes and that is all.

[@darganx]

More imperialist talk backed up by BS. Civilisations came and went before you got out of the caves in Europe. The idea of the sacred white man coming in to 'save the savages' is nothing but Manifest Destiny bollox.

[@yoloswaggins7121]

Your comment is stupid because everything point you made is completely irrelevant.

[@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm]

Did the Africans ask the Europeans to come? Last time I remember it was the European immigrants who sailed thousands of miles. The Africans were fine living with a traditional lifestyle.

[@janrabie1890]

@@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm No somebody had to introduce them to the wheel, maths, chemistry, physics, calendars, systems of measurement, western medicine and the toilet because otherwise they would have fallen behind the rest of the world. The fact is, they embraced these changes, because it made their lives easier and better. They did not reject them.

[@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm]

@janrabie1890 they didn't embrace the changes though. They fought the racist immigrants multiple times. Khoisan wars and Xhosa wars

[@h.s.lafever3277]

Im only at 13:19 in the video when writing this, but i gotta say, this video has absolutely convinced me that America needs Apartheid, and that i am a fan based on this videos description thus far. It would eliminate 85% of our domestic crime and violence problems. Im sold! lets make this a thing, vote this in, democracy rules, right? just gotta find a like minded community, or create, convert one. I now have a mission, thank you cold war channel!

[@yoloswaggins7121]

You're not very bright, are you?

[@jakesoros2376]

Honestly based, especially saying it amongst all these yuppie chuckleheads and champagne socialists here.

[@h.s.lafever3277]

why cant i read the comments to my post? afraid of a truthful reply?

[@kevanhubbard9673]

A lot of Boers were of French decent as a lot of Huguenots went to live down there after France brought in anti Protestant laws.Afrikaans is a West Germanic language pretty closely related to English although most closely to Dutch.

[@tonysherwood9619]

Any mention of Israel?

[@TheFishman3226]

Im a descendant of Afrikaaners. Whilst apartheid was a vile system, its' replacement is clearly worse with not only similar racist policies but a complete ruin of the country.

[@hystericalchike6232]

Eh not worst

[@christhebold7691]

Amen to that!

[@thephoenix756]

Not remotely worst; just leave the continent if you think that the removal of a system that humiliated blacks in their own land doesn't suite you

[@TheFishman3226]

@@thephoenix756 you cant seriously think the current situation is good for any citizen or the country. The ANC are corrupt, the EFF are worse.

[@Amtography]

Coloured is a normal term in SA. Not everything is from your perspective

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

Your “history” of South Africa has a very contemporary American feel to it. The idea that whites were historically a small settler community vastly outnumbered by neighbouring African tribes is the part Americans never seem to understand. Plenty of factual inaccuracies.

[@metrx330]

I am a Coloured South African. It is not an insulting word. Nothing against Black or White people, just please don't insult us. We are Coloured and proud!

[@bikkiikun]

The irony about Apartheid is that it was ultimately undone, not because of South Africa's international isolation, but because of the way it was implemented. Had the Afrikaaner let the Africans have sufficient arible land to live on and govern themselves, they would not have no reason to move into the townships, putting social and political pressure on the white population centres.

[@7bombarie]

No. The Africans would always demand a large part of the wealth of the hard working Boeren.

[@bikkiikun]

@@7bombarie : The only ones doing actual work were the Africans... not the white immigrants that stole the land and acted as their slave masters.

[@almondandfriends]

@@7bombarie Nothing says hard working like horrific racially based oppression through military force to centralise economic wealth in your peoples hands at the expense of the original inhabitants of the land.

[@NewSherrif]

If the Boers hated the Africans so much they could simply have let the Blacks have their own nations and there would have been no need for any of this, but their intention was always to leech

[@almondandfriends]

​@@NewSherrif I find near slave labour, violent suppression, outright murder, rape and what could charitably be called pillaging are often poor ways to teach someone anything. And thats only if we assume those "poor" african people were so desperate for the "noble" white man to come and teach them there ways. The Boers (as a national grouping) hated or perhaps more aptly felt contempt for the African population of their colonies because they used a combination of pseudo science and religious fervor to get the impression that they were inherently a superior group of people. They used that sense of superiority to justify exploiting the African populace in the areas they brutally conquered. The exploited populace made a convenient workforce that as a state they didnt feel an obligation to take proper care of and the use of superior firearms coupled with oppressive policy that controlled the african populations entire life ensured their status quo wouldnt be upset. Now they occupy this awkward position of economic supremacy and the political grey area that their centuries of exploitation afforded them, most of the wealth of South Africa in their hands and some of them still preach their victimhood to whoever will listen

[@aar0nbbosa801]

Thank you for this I’m so mad that I didn’t learn any of this in school smh

[@blessedAfrikan217]

Our people will never forget what they did to their ancestors. NEVER.

[@neilturner6749]

Well you should, otherwise you’ll never move on in life. The UK and Germany bombed the crap out of each other for 6 years up until 1945 but by 1955 had largely “made up and moved on” for the sake of mutual benefit.

[@darkgalaxy5548]

Just what South Africa needs, a multi-generational conflict just like the Balkans.

[@njabulozikhali4966]

.....black people are angry, we are angry. What yu saw during the July 2022 unreast was nothing. A storm is brewing amongst black people. White people walk around with an entitlement attitude. One day is one day. That day will have everyone sleeping on a shack....

[@sunblanket2925]

Lest we forget. Amandla

[@smr4712]

we whites will also not for get how you murdered our farmers with your British masters.

[@viniciuscvj]

Such a nice video.

[@warrenschrader7481]

Afraid to use the term "coloured"? What do you think NAACP stands for?

[@bentuovila5296]

Probably concerned that the video with get nuked, of not now then when the euphemism treadmill advances.

[@thehypetraveler8114]

Oh what better times in South Africa!

[@thethirdjegs]

as a filipino, why cant you say coloured?

[@callanadamwilliams8200]

​@Tony Doe Its Coloured not Colored in South Africa, totally different terms with totally different meanings. Coloureds are genrally mixed with Slave, European and Asian descent.

[@simonh6371]

@Tony Doe Of course there is a difference. You need to understand that it's only in the US that words are spelled color, honor etc. ...whereas in the other 50 plus English speaking countries on the planet, British spelling is used, so it's colour, honour etc. The word ''colored'' isn't in use in SA, unless you have literacy problems.

[@benvad9010]

It wasn’t a stain whatsoever.

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

By coincidence 2 days ago I found my mother's booklet written in Dutch and English It was obvious that it wasn't " up to date" and although my mother's family was white immigrants they lived in poverty since my grandfather had no formal education. My point is things in real life are more complicated than a single simplified narrative

[@simbamartens7192]

A poor white in South Africa was always better off than a poor black as they benefitted from superior education, better access to land and capital and job reservation.

[@bri1085]

Your mother must be very old for it to be written in Dutch.

[@johnphillips1683]

At 4:58, you mentioned that, after unification, the British Govt started passing laws to further disenfranchise people. After 31 May 1910, the British government had very limited powers in the Union and laws were passed by the Union (SA) Government - SA was a self-governing Dominion now, after all.

[@jason4275]

*How Musk family made their money and how Elon Musk started his first company, all apartheid money.*

[@PrezVeto]

You say that as if it has some bearing on his personal respectability.

[@johanschoeman869]

Rubbish!

[@sunblanket2925]

​@@PrezVetodoesn't matter. This is what your people want. For us to be cheap labour again.

[@CarlosC-lv1gm]

I READ ALOT when I was a KID, when everybody else was doing their thing I was reading the ENCYCLOPEDIA from A to Z. Either at my grandparents house or my parents home as a child from 4 years old to about 14 years old, ON EVERYTHING I LOVE at 14 years old I was reading L RON HUBBARD but stop reading it because I didn’t agree with his ideology, the Generals Daughter paperback, and ROOTS by Haney. *So that’s the REASON I didn’t understand the AKATA scene in SUGAR HILL because APARTHEID was just a MODERN VERSION of Slavery that didn’t end until the 80s. So if any CONTINENT understands oppression Jim Crow or Willie Lynch it should be Africa. Not pulling the SCAP OFF of old wounds trying to heal but WE KNOW ABOUT THE ATROCITIES of HISTORY, but JUDGEMENT DAY is definitely upon us because THE UNRIGHTEOUS is STARTING TO MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEAR. So EITHER Dark Forces are collecting their debts that SOME OF YOU never thought would come OR the stage before that happens is ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE. I DON’T RECOMMEND you blink to long. I DON’T even want to GIVE OFF THE IMPRESSION that I’m involved in any PLOTS AND SCHEMES. It’s similar to me NOT wanting to stand to CLOSE BEFORE THE ROOF FALLS DOWN on Everyone’s Head. It’s COMING I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT!!!!! SELAH…..And ONE MORE THING stop trying to tell me this is the FIRMAMENT when I see PAGAN SYMBOLISM in ALL. FORMS. I JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THESE THINGS MUST HAPPEN!!!

[@jameswatt7249]

Apartheid is wrong, and sadly it still exists in South Africa. All are poor now and only the politicians are well off.

[@unstoppabletigertalukan6710]

Source?

[@jameswatt7249]

​@@unstoppabletigertalukan6710 Reality

[@michaeldunham3385]

@@unstoppabletigertalukan6710 there's a guy with a KZbin channel called SerpentZA his content is generally about China but he's from South Africa and does mention issues currently in South Africa including how its gone back on many claims regarding not seeking retribution.

[@unstoppabletigertalukan6710]

@@jameswatt7249 reality can be proven So prove it

[@Gidi66]

​@@michaeldunham3385 ah that guy, that once went on and on about how he loves our country but the second people started asking him questions about how he stated he always disliked communism and socialism then went running of to China, his response was just we don't know anything about China as it wasn't as communist back then, and again it was still communist in the last 20 years, he really likes talking out his ass about stuff he barely knows anything about.