Why Do SO MANY Comic Book Fans Seem to Hate Comics?

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[@BrianLCS]

Great discussion. Outrage, negatively, generates clicks, eyeballs, etc. The other factor is, it's easy to be a faceless internet tough guy these days.

[@Envy-Animations]

Yeah pretty much

[@TheComicsPals]

Absolutely on point.

[@epcarter6]

Love this conversation and glad I found you guys, it’s ok to be critical of the things you love, but when you spent the majority of the time trashing said thing you probably no longer love it and it’s ok to move on.

[@TheComicsPals]

Exactly! Glad you’re enjoying us so far 👊🏾👊🏾

[@schm00b0]

A bunch of well-funded grifters promote rage-bait. Unfortunately, social networks thrive on rage and fear.

[@TheComicsPals]

Nailed it.

[@BrandonPaul]

As someone who is a writer and currently working on webcomics, I definitely agree with the positivity fueling creativity argument. In particular, the Deadpool trailer and the new x-men announcements (and reading brevort's blog) made me get back into comics and work on my comics again. I listen to people on both sides, but the positive energy is what pushes me to create new things.

[@TheComicsPals]

Exactly. We need more positivity and spreading of that because it does inspire more creativity and, frankly, happiness. Can’t be positive about everything all the time, but shining a light on the good and fun things is necessary where possible.

[@spiralstorm616]

1. Some people don't like change 2. Some people don't like current ideas 3. Some people miss the old days 4. Some people dont like the LGBT representation 5. Some people just like to complain 6. Some miss the sexy women 7. Some people think some characters arent the same no more 8. Lot of Spider-Man fans are angry that OMD will proably never will redone and Peter will stay a miserable loser as Wells and editorial is establishing 9. I think Comicsgate and other crazies ruin the industry for others 10. I think social media hurts the industry 11. Some people thinking the industry is full of pedos and sex predators dominate the industry. Just my observations

[@TheComicsPals]

List pretty much covers all bases.

[@masido443]

I think that "Comic companies make "dramatic" changes to create big outrage and get attention." can be added too.

[@bryanrickard7712]

While I agree with the notion that the culture war grifters have something to sell and it’s often times a much worse comic book than what is available through the mainstream market, sometimes the comic isn’t even the product. Outrage is the product. You will notice some of the so-called “KZbin comic creators”, very seldom create any comics at all

[@TheComicsPals]

Absolutely true.

[@AngelusNielson]

I say this as a neurodivergent nerd, but neurodivergence plus passion often equals outrage and exaggeration of things. I've been gulity of it myself in things like fREAKING when I first heard about 3e D&D.

[@snappapop3277]

Easy answer is it's ok to shit on an industry that has more insider content creators than fans. I feel like it's become so hard to speak in a community with so many industry creators who will actively shoot down fans criticisms. And what's worse, creators who will amplify hate stories about the fandom. Cause here's the real truth. You mentioned loving going to that IGN podcast back in the day and it made you feel special. Imagine if you would have stuck around if all the IGN channel did was amplify every negative stereotype of the community in order to be considered "one of the good ones". Back in the day comic fans were the IGN fanbase. Now every single industry person wants every fan EXCEPT comic fans. Again because creators often accept whatever narrative is spun about the fanbase. The truth is the industry wants our passion...when it results in mental illness seeing a movie 132 times in theatres or screaming at a red carpet. They hate when they, who have all the power, make mistakes and that same mental illness can no longer be harnessed for manipulation. the reason people hate the product? because we are actively rebelling against indoctrination. We dont need to be told we are the bad guys while writers and producers and artists etc are morally bankrupt old dudes who want to gatekeep comics from the next generation of young male fans. Short answer, we rage because the people in charge show they don't want us as their core base. So I say fuck em all i'm not leaving. I'm gonna plant myself like a tree and say no, you move.

[@ThorneIdentity]

nothing like smart people doing good things for good reasons. keep it up.

[@TheComicsPals]

We sure will, thank you! 👊🏾👊🏾

[@realdopecomics]

You guys and comics by perch are my favorite comic book channels

[@TheComicsPals]

Appreciate that brother! 👊🏾👊🏾

[@dlvnmedia]

The reason outrage wins is the algorithm - people interact more with stuff that makes them angry so the algorithm pushes that more. It’s part of what I hate about KZbin since k have many interests and hobbies that I will get stuff I am not interested in to me cause I watched a conspiracy theory video to laugh at.

[@Mikey.N5714]

Watching this after th latest stream was perfect timing lol. I just want to say that I personally don't get the outrage channels or whatever because if you really cared about the art you would want to get more people into said art medium, whatever that might be. The way you get other people into something is to speak passionately about it. I got into comics because the channels I watch speak positively about a certain story and it makes me want to pick it up.

[@Mikey.N5714]

And critique instead of just straight bashing makes it easier for someone else to see your side even if they don't agree. I guess it's just human nature to not even care about differing opinions but it's sad because that's where good and meaningful conversations come from. Even if it's just something like a controversial comic that you happen to like lol.

[@TheComicsPals]

Yes exactly. It makes more sense when you realize that the goal of those channels isn't to celebrate comics, it's actually to court the vast amount of people who hate current comics industry and gather them all around. They also very frequently have something to sell, likely a comic, that they claim is better than everything in the mainstream.

[@comicsheik7231]

Another excellent, timely, and much needed discussion. Thank you.

[@TheComicsPals]

Thank YOU for listening 👊🏾👊🏾

[@masenguerra7835]

there's always those grifters that don't talk about anything positive and honestly trash on comics as a whole due to there being some bad stories. Then they uplift stuff that they see as superior that is older and in the past. I see these commentary channels do this all the time by comparing bad comics to justice league unlimited. meanwhile genuinely well written comic just don't get talked about. You pals are among the only people I saw talk about Philip Kenndy Johnson's superman because people wanted to complain about spider-man or how gay Jon is.

[@TheComicsPals]

Yeah, it really is a shame that there are so many great books getting overlooked because of people’s biases and ignorance. We’ll keep shining a light on the great stories being told in this industry right now.

[@IzzysIssues]

I appreciate all the recs you gave us at the end! Always looking for more positive comic discussions on the hellscape that is the internet

[@TheComicsPals]

Happy to add books to your ever growing stack, Izzy!

[@kharyrobertson3579]

Simple answer? For the same reason that so many content creators hate their audience. Familiarity breeds contempt. You hate to see it

[@TheComicsPals]

We love our audience around here! Wouldn’t be anywhere without them. But yes, I think you’re correct in that.

[@read.your.comics]

Misery loves company so recreational outrage is a cheap sell. You won’t find any of that garbage on my channel so it’s a slow growth.

[@TheComicsPals]

You are on point about that. We’re very similar in that regard!

[@ChillMonger]

20:01 BJ Kicks

[@TheComicsPals]

Yes indeed!

[@Patrick-wl6pw]

I agree love comic books not made

[@user-is6cs2nu5s]

I hate about 99 % of marvel and dc the big two are dead.go to image and indes.hire better writers artist.maybe ur bring back readers.dont get to the point in 6 to the whole run .

[@writerartist6306]

Not a fan of Tom King's writing. His narration and concepts are okay, but his dialogue is terrible and unrealistic, so I don't understand the appeal.

[@TheComicsPals]

That’s fair! Not every creator has to be for everyone.