What Did the Early Church Believe About Mary? (w/ Mike Aquilina)

I'm joined by prolific author, speaker, and podcaster Mike Aquilina to talk about Mary.
What did the Early Church believe about Mary? What was her role in Christian history leading up to the Reformation? And how should we properly understand the Mother of God?
This is a great discussion for non-Catholic Christians and Catholics alike.
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[@mangomon]

Awesome interview. I was raised a Catholic, went to Catholic school, even got confirmed, but I wasn't Catechized well. So when I started reading the Bible for myself, I concluded that the Catholic Church was unbiblical, left and became a Born Again Protestant. After seven years of Evangelicalism, I left the faith and became an agnostic until the start of this year, when I felt drawn back to Jesus. Now, I'm at a point where I want to follow Jesus but don't know which church to be a part of. Do I go to one of the thousands of Protestant churches that don't agree with each other, or do I come back home to Rome? I'm leaning more towards the Catholic Church mainly because of the Church Fathers, but there are still dogmas that I feel so uncomfortable accepting---Mary being one of them. This video helped to debunk a lot of my reservations about Mary's role in the Catholic Church. So thank you.

[@marianweigh6411]

Good for you for continuing to seek the truth wherever it takes you. May the Holy Spirit be with you!

[@johnmcnichol207]

Thank you for saying this! I have a relative in much the same position, who is wondering if they 'have' to believe in the Marian dogmas to return. I'll listent to the rest of this and see if it'd help.

[@nathanalex6880]

Such a great conversation on Our Lady, I’m sure she’s pleased by this and her Son is too with the reverence and gratitude we give to His one of His many graces. Ave Maria

[@peterfloyd4182]

Amazingly rich in content. Maybe what’s even better is the tonic of cordiality. That cordiality is almost impossible to find in our polarized, acrimonious, bitter dialogue nowadays. Chesterton had that cordiality-and today I stumble upon it again in this video. Thank you.

[@KenKopelson]

When anyone consecrates themself to Mary, what they are doing is signing up for her to become their #1 and most powerful disciple making teacher. They are enrolling in her training to become a true Saint of Jesus Christ in the quickest and more efficient way.

[@macbride33]

Amazing. Please pray for me, my wife and children to see this and come home from 20 years protestant!

[@tonyl3762]

Good stuff. Even I'm hearing some new stuff when he talks about Constantine and Julian the Apostate. I'd be interested to know where that is documented. Brant Pitre's book on the Jewish roots of Mary is also very good.

[@tonyl3762]

"For Eve, who was a virgin and undefiled, having conceived the word of the serpent, brought forth disobedience and death. But the Virgin Mary received faith and joy, when the angel Gabriel announced the good tidings to her that the Spirit of the Lord would come upon her, and the power of the Highest would overshadow her: wherefore also the Holy Thing begotten of her is the Son of God; and she replied, ‘Be it unto me according to thy word.’ And by her has He been born, to whom we have proved so many Scriptures refer, and by whom God destroys both the serpent and those angels and men who are like him; but works deliverance from death to those who repent of their wickedness and believe upon Him." -Justin Martyr in 2nd century (Dialogue with Trypho)

[@tonyl3762]

"In accordance with this design, Mary the Virgin is found obedient, saying, “Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to your word.” (Luke 1:38) But Eve was disobedient; for she did not obey when as yet she was a virgin. And even as she, having indeed a husband, Adam, but being nevertheless as yet a virgin…having become disobedient, was made the cause of death, both to herself and to the entire human race; so also did Mary, having a man betrothed [to her], and being nevertheless a virgin, by yielding obedience, become the *cause of salvation, both to herself and the whole human race….* And thus also it was that *the knot of Eve’s disobedience was loosed by the obedience of Mary.* For what the virgin Eve had bound fast through unbelief, this did *the virgin Mary set free through faith.* " -Irenaeus of Lyon (Against Heresies, 3, 22, 4) in the 2nd century

[@KenKopelson]

Why say the Rosary was not given to Dominic by Mary herself, where she told him that the people need to "pray her Psalter"? Are we saying that St. Dominic lied or made the story up? What is that based on?

[@tonyl3762]

Jimmy Akin apparently doesn't believe the Tilma is miraculous. He may stir up people if he ever does an episode on it.

[@fantasia55]

It's not dogma, so whatev.

[@tonyl3762]

@@fantasia55 I say this as a Catholic. The truth always matters, even if not dogma.

[@fantasia55]

@tonyl3762 Jimmy is entitled to his opinion about this, though I tend to believe it's real. Same with the Shroud of Turin.

[@CODA834]

Unfortunately the evidence of the Tilma being a hoax is overwhelming. Even it's own curators stated it was a hoax in 2001. There is no record of a Juan Diego, he is never mentioned anywhere until 125 years after. Analysis of the material in 2009 showed it to be made from hemp not cactus pulp. We even know who painted it.

[@CODA834]

@@fantasia55 No it isn't sadly. As per my response above the story is entirely fabricated. Chemical analysis in 2009 proved It's made from hemp which lasts for centuries. There is no contemporary account of the Tilma or a Juan Diago by anyone for over a century. The Tilma's own curator wrote to the Pope in 2001 stating the story had been fabricated and it should not be canonized.

[@KenKopelson]

I see Mary as the GREATEST, MOST ADVANCED, #1 disciple of Jesus Christ. She was the first disciple. She is the most advanced disciple. All of her power, gifting, authority, is exactly the same things all Saints have, only she has the greatest level of it all. She has great power at exorcisms because she is the great executor of the authority that Jesus gave, when he said his disciples had the authority to trample on scorpions and snakes, and to have authority over ALL the power of the enemy. Mary has ZERO ability to be fooled by Satan and demons, so she is the perfect exorcist, just like Jesus was. All the same goes for things like miracles, answers to prayer, intercession, etc. Whatever any Christian can do, she can do, only she does them the BEST.

[@rbnmnt3341]

Of course she has all this power. It was given by the church. A fairytale so to speak. You surely can't find those lies in the scripture. Jesus said I'm Matthew, ALL power is given to me in heaven and earth. Did I miss where it says "Me and Mary?" Mary trusted her life to God. Catholics don't follow her example. They not only entrust their life but their soul. Isn't that foolish.

[@cbooth151]

Jesus' apostles were among the earliest Christians. They believed that... 1. Mary was the mother of Jesus, the Son of God. (Luke 1:31, 35) On the other hand, Catholics believe Mary was the mother of God. 2. only Jesus' Father, Yahweh, should be prayed to. (Matt. 6:6, 9; Ex. 3:15) On the other hand, Catholics believe they can pray to Mary. 3. only the Father should be worshiped. (John 4:23) On the other hand, Catholics believe they can worship Mary along with a fictional triune deity.

[@tonyl3762]

1. Elizabeth, under the inspiration, calls Mary, the Mother of the Lord. That's in Scripture. It is equivalent to Mother of God. 2/3. You must some really fringe group if you don't believe Jesus should be prayed to and worshipped. You don't believe Jesus is God? Have you not read John 5:18 or John 8:58-59 John 20:28 or Matt. 28:17 or Philippians 2:6 or Rev 1:17, 2:8, 22:12-13?

[@cbooth151]

@@tonyl3762 If Mary is the mother of God, who is God’s Father?

[@tonyl3762]

@@cbooth151 Are you unaware that all this was worked out in the first few centuries of the Church??? Are you really so ignorant of this? Have you not read the Nicene or Athanasian creed?? Why waste my time explaining what was already authoritatively decided? The Father is God. The Son is God. The Holy Spirit is God. They are one. God doesn't have a father. God is Father. The Son has no Mother. The Son took on a human nature. Jesus is God the Son with a human nature. Jesus has a mother, Mary, so that makes her the mother of God in human time and history, though the Son existed before all time and history. The Son has a Father, God the Father, so not exactly like human fathers. Jesus has no earthly father; His father is God the Father. Jesus' was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, not by natural human sexual intercourse.

[@chinitapink8074]

@@cbooth151😂 Brother you are so lost with your own understanding. Do you not believe in Trinity?

[@cbooth151]

@@chinitapink8074 Is there some reason why you can't answer a simple question? If Mary is the mother of God, who is God's Father?