Neil deGrasse Tyson | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 72

Neil deGrasse Tyson - renowned astrophysicist, host of "Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey" on PBS, the "StarTalk Radio" podcast, and best-selling author of "Letters from an Astrophysicist" - joins Ben to discuss science, religion, morality, climate change, transgenderism, abortion, and much more.
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[@Eamonwastaken]

I like how Ben talks at 2x speed and Neil talks at .5x speed so together they’re having a conversation at normal speed

[@kelvintomaszewski6995]

best comment ever hahahahha

[@EpicDoggiez]

@Justin Rivaldo Actually thats false. It would be 1.25x normal speed. Heres my math (Correct me if im wrong) -If Neil talks, its “2x” assuming “x” is the amount of time it takes a normal person to talk. If Ben talks, its “0.5x” with x being the same -So if they each talk once, it is “2x+0.5x” -If it was normal, it would be “2x” because its each person talking normally -If we simplify it to how much it takes for one person to talk compared to a normal person, it would be 1/2(2x+0.5x) -That means its “x+0.25x” or “1.25x” Sound right? 😂

[@oldcowbb]

neil talks slow to make sure everyone understand what he is trying to say, ben talks fast to overwhelm people so they don't question what he is talking about

[@Eamonwastaken]

@@EpicDoggiez hahaha Nooo!!! you’re looking at the equation all wrong! X is the duration or amount that BOTH Ben and Neil talk! Ben says “x” 2 times as fast as a normal person. Neil speaks x half as fast as a normal person. Together, 2x+.05x, they speak at normal speed (1) 2x+.05x=1

[@erik7088]

Neil “ the universe is splendor full of mysteries and one…” Ben-BUTWHATDOYOUTHINKOF TRANSGENDERS ?

[@CapitainBarbaRoja]

Neil is so amazing, he actually got me to click on a ben shipiro podcast.

[@mattrdd9]

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[@jay_hawk9762]

Ok?

[@AA-vn3ru]

@@jay_hawk9762 ok

[@trellchargest4042]

Frfr but ben is on to somthin somtiimes erbody got an opinion thooo

[@rayb1091]

You are not alone

[@ashleyhayre1890]

00:28 introduction 05:02 meaning in science 17:55 science in government 30:27 climate change 42:23 gender and sexuality 54:52 abortion

[@yordilecomte5156]

Thank uu this helps!!!

[@felixsantos-nedrelid2004]

Undarated Comment.😁

[@user-kq8rk1vd3u]

Thank you helps alot

[@maverickay5807]

Wooo!

[@Isekaime4]

God bless this person

[@CJB787]

“What is your motivation?” Most important thing Neil asked Ben in this interview.

[@methatis3013]

That's called avoiding the question. Motivation does not matter, "What is your motivation?" is not a counterargument

[@CJB787]

@@methatis3013 He didn't make that his counter argument. His counter argument was "Are you asking about biological Science, or Social Science" . (Because both sides of the argument are correct depending on which science perfective the questions is coming from). That's the real question, and therefore the the motivation of the person asking the question become very relevant.

[@RJCHOICE]

@@methatis3013 "motivation does not matter" Tell it to the courts, judge, jury and DA. lol

[@methatis3013]

@@RJCHOICE well... Yeah. You can absolutely convict someone if the motive is unknown lol. So yes, the motivation absolutely does not matter

[@RJCHOICE]

@@methatis3013 the motivation determines whether there is a crime or not or the severity of the crime so your answer is bull scheisse

[@Sebbefilmerchannel]

Normalize changing your opinion after recieving new facts

[@micperez819]

That means they don't know what they are talking about if they change their mind after learning new information

[@gregory6619]

or there are multiple perspectives that will never be right or wrong because morality offers no right and wrong answers

[@donsancho6690]

This is very true. I have a friend who is a would-be abortion so I am pretty pro-life. After watching this interview I've reconsidered these facts and now agree with Neil. I still don't support abortion, but in the case that it needs to be done (cases which I understand exist) it should be done before the baby is developed enough that it could survive outside of the womb.

[@somebodyfixmyinternet]

@@micperez819 In a way, that's true and it's not a bad thing. If you realize you don't know a subject as much as you thought you did, would it be better to continue lie and continue to espouse your false logic, or use the new knowledge to inform your opinions?

[@xD3f]

@@gregory6619 of course, but in that case u cant use science to back urself up. some things are just facts, not opinions

[@TheGreatMoonFrog]

"What are your thoughts on homosexuality?" *knees draw ever close*

[@Richard-qu5vi]

haahahazhahahahahqahaayhha Gold

[@aidag.1377]

I don't think much of it, to each his own, good advice i think.

[@hanswhite]

"Leviticus 18 tells me it's bad." -Ben Shapiro

[@TheGreatMoonFrog]

@@hanswhite "But my knees tell me it's oh so right."

[@blackice112]

I just died

[@ashimaow]

neil: explains a problem* ben: I Disagree neil: explains same problem in different scenario* also ben: I Totally Agree Fam

[@bhuuthesecond]

Each time he senses an L he does a pivot like he wasn’t against that thing 5 minutes ago.

[@iamanentppersonalitytype3184]

It's called situational precision

[@joe-tatothepotatobiden47]

Youre really boiling it down and not looking at the nuances. Its more of a: Neil:Says something Ben:Have you thought of this situation, what about this issue that may arise. Neil:Clarifies his point and explains in more detail about how those problems he brought up would be handled. Ben isn't going to agree to something without fully understanding what it is. Its why he will tell you that he has never read a bill or proposed policy when he is asked about them on college campuses. He will never say, I agree or I disagree with a bill or proposed policy without having read it. Its something that we should all do. You shouldn't agree to something that you understand or that isnt clear.

[@clayefferson]

These segments aren't meant to be outright debates but more an explanation of his guests views. It's how he got bill maher etc and guys that totally disagree but can still express their views.

[@ssj2camaro21]

You dont understand how conversation and discussions work then

[@masonrice1439]

I forget where I seen the quote but Neil discribes it similarly. “ if you deystroyed all religious text you could never rewrite it the same , but if you take away all scientific data you will always get the same information back .

[@av3rsi0n]

Ricky Gervais said this on Stephen Colbert.

[@masonrice1439]

@@av3rsi0n yes that’s it

[@evanfischer5282]

What’s funny is that this might be true if 1. All religion is false or 2. Religion is not false but the same religious text is required to exist in its current form. If the Christian God exists, and all religious knowledge of Christianity is terminated, then definitely something divine would have to happen again to restore it. If religion is all false, this could be true. However, we’d end up with religions very similar to existing ones. At least in values of right and wrong. Over history we’ve seen many civilizations that have thrived share similar moral values. While some people believe morality can exist separate from religion (which is kinda true), the reality is morality requires transcendent belief. Morality is kind of a transcendent belief in itself. Tldr; if religion is false, we actually might see religions reform but with the same moral values. If history shows us anything about it. If it’s real, it would require different religious text to restore it anyways.

[@masonrice1439]

@@evanfischer5282 morality doesn’t require transcendent belief at all , someone who can’t imagine a world without religion might think that though. Religion while having some good values to learn from has done far more bad than good and that’s been proven from history. I find it sad people will blindly follow a belief that they themselves didn’t even make . Just like an other fictional book religion has some positives to take from but as a whole should be taken with a grain of salt .

[@PinkFahkUnicorn]

Oh yeah, just like the earth is flat and there's a trillion genders...hmmm yes...

[@Shyori]

NDT speaks so purposefully. He doesn't rush through things. He thinks before he speaks. Makes every work count.

[@johnsmith-kc1sn]

I can’t stand NDT in general. He is so arrogant and obnoxious and full of himself. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that he advocates for science but as a person he seems like a narcissistic and an asshole. It’s hilarious watching this video because Ben Shapiro is such an insufferable person that even NDT looks like a saint and an empathetic intellectual next to him.

[@mashedpotatoesfromkfc]

@@johnsmith-kc1sn this is so accurate, you know you’re bad when NDT looks good in comparison lol

[@Yoda-wf6bu]

​@@johnsmith-kc1sn Neil is a great guy what the fuck are you two smoking?

[@zaammy3584]

@@johnsmith-kc1sn lol if a conservative who has a terrible take on a genuinely smart and great person still considers them better then Ben Shap there is something wrong with pivoting-weasely Shapiro

[@johnsmith-kc1sn]

@@Yoda-wf6bu apparently not. He seems like a really nice and cool dude when you see him as a host on TV, but apparently in person he is terribly narcissistic. You can Google about him and some of the A-hole stuff he’s done that you wouldn’t have seen on his TV shows

[@sutnical]

Ben, you should start doing interviews where your knees are touching the guest's knees.

[@kristinchamberlain531]

Especially when they're pantsless like crowder was.

[@Huppyhuppyhuppy]

It would be interesting if they were facing backwards to each other, touching backs, but the discussion would still be serious

[@markgamal7837]

I wouldn't be able to form even one sentence in such uncomfortable setting.

[@al4385]

yes it's funny, but it's because they are trying to fit the two people in front of the camera. Why don't people understand the basics of videography?

[@eb60lp]

😂

[@danearls5817]

“If a day goes by and I don’t learn something, that’s a wasted day.” Love this.

[@ssamerica3062]

54:55 I think this might be my favorite segment in the video. The way neil talks about human fundamentals with the same passion that he does the rest of science and nature brings a new warmth to what is otherwise cold facts and an even colder conversation topic. And I think that is one of the many reasons why he and Ben had such a productive conversation about something so divisive.

[@Daryl_Phillips_]

Yeah it’s my favorite too

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@mags7054]

Neil deGrasse Tyson on God (Response) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoDOoa1_jNN6nrc This video will easily and quickly explain some of the reasons why Neal deGrasse Tyson is wrong.

[@mickienoel638]

​@@mags7054 I haven't listened to the whole debate and I can already tell you didn't listen

[@Reos-Domain]

@@mags7054 I can tell you didn't listen to a word he spoke, the ignorance people like you hold along with the hatred is astounding.

[@DylLynn]

am I the only person who thinks they're seated like uncomfortably close to each other?

[@JesseSelbert]

Or not close enough?

[@swimskim5874]

@@JesseSelbert Upvoted^^

[@jengleheimerschmitt7941]

Did you see Crowder on his Sunday Special? The right gym shorts sticking right in Ben's face.🤣. That was hilarious.

[@nelsonhoffman5922]

I actually think it’s just right for intellectual dialogue. It’s closer than a conversation with a stranger or guest but further than an “intimate” meeting. It’s just the appropriate distance for me..

[@elipeake7631]

It would be uncomfortable to sit close to either of them, in different ways for each one

[@mitchellbaldwin265]

This is literally the best example of how people should conduct discussions in today’s times. I love this video!

[@donsancho6690]

Same. I learned about this interview from a clickbait video that read "Neil DeGrasse Tyson BODIES Ben Shapiro in trans debate". This wasn't a bodying at all. It was a great conversation. I learned a lot.

[@DanK123]

Fo sho. I know I still dislike Ben but at least he was capable of having a semi intelligent talk with a smart, funny, really good guy in Neil. Really glad he went on. Hopefully he educated Ben and people who watched.

[@ethanschreiber4153]

@@DanK123 Ben Shapiro is incredibly smart and is also a chameleon, tailoring his rhetoric for the current audience. When his audience is young and ignorant (think B.S. destroys college student), he speaks incredibly fast and uses specious arguments which sounds good to the acolytes while overwhelming the unprepared question asker. These arguments always ignore all subtleties of the issue and are obnoxious, disrespecting the position of those who disagree with him. He will make irreverent statements like, the left wants to make abortion legal up to the age of 7, implying through sarcasm that the opposition would casually abort a third term fetus. In reality, less than 1÷ of abortions happen in the third trimester and are typically because either the fetus or mother's life is in danger. With statements like that, the goal is not to come to an understanding, it's to demonize the opposition. When his audience is learned and not aligned ideologically, he is much more careful. He asks more thoughtful questions, and gives more reverence to the opposing opinion. He does a good job of highlighting the differences without being combative. He avoids his most evocative and shallow statements. This is how his Sunday conversation with ideologically opposed guests such as NDT goes. Then there was the Andrew Neil interview. He misjudged his guest and chose the irreverent style for a learned counterpart. He put on his cheap point fast talking hat and looked like a moron, because Andre Neil could easily parry his ridiculous statements. I think Ben Shapiro is well educated, speaks clearly, and is very funny. I very much appreciate the version like we saw tonight. Im sad that there is the second "leftist tears" version that tries to generate headlines to drive ad revenue. Unfortunately, thag version is a mirror for our uneducated populace which is not interested in evaluating subtleties of tough issues. Ben Shapiro is a talented chameleon who gives his audience exactly what they need in each situation in order to drive maximum ad revenue. I hope society wakes up and starts demanding conversations like this one more often and stops getting excited about making the opposition look foolish. If so, we will get only the good version of ben, because he will always give his audience whatever it needs so he can continue to sleep on his "bed full of money".

[@DanK123]

@@ethanschreiber4153 Wow - that's a great analysis. Without knowing much about Ben, I see what you mean. He very carefully approaches each interview in a specific way, designed to achieve a certain goal. He must be "smart" to do what he does, even if he sounds like a moron half the time. I'll just never understand how somebody becomes so ideologically entrenched in Republican politics. Sometimes I wonder if all of these clowns know better but are simply doing it to enrich themselves at all costs, even our democracy. And yes with Neil, he can't help but revere him....so it's hard to attack and berate as he would to most others. I try to spend as little time in my life thinking about "Ben Shapiro"....I really don't care about him, so I'll be done with this comment now. Haha but thank you for the insight!

[@matthewlegg6637]

These two should be locked in a room for 1 week to hash out GUN ownership rights, limits and we have it written as an amendment. I'm ok with these two deciding whats what. Both are decent humans and pretty smart guys :)

[@judejohnson9645]

Absolutely love how clear Neil is with his statements. Always felt that Ben is verbose and uses unduly big words, that easily has you missing his point. Neil actually speaks slow and provides a succinct punchline, that has you gripped on every word.

[@a9fc]

That's his MO. His reponses to people who are less well versed in debates is to basically overwhelm and run them down.

[@5ubjugator]

@@a9fc Please provide me an example so I may verify your accusation

[@noelcruz2891]

​@@a9fcwith no regard for integrity or factual truth, this is actually a way to somewhat suceed in a debate.. one side may be wrong, but delivery may sway favor

[@palebluedot7435]

@@5ubjugator oh yes Look up his climate change debates Where one makes a statement Then he does a tactic call Gish galloping Look into it then rewatch this video see if your keen enough to notice

[@GODJWilly]

I appreciated this conversation greatly. Hearing both sides of the conversation really broadened my knowledge, and assisted in answering a few questions that I had. Thank you Neil DeGrasse Tyson, and Ben Shapiro for your expressions!

[@ChristopherCraven]

What were the questions you had answered?

[@whiteguard2711]

Originally, ben was sitting on neils lap.

[@hamzamahmood9565]

And a little twerking too

[@candidapeier]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@goncalobaia1574]

This was photoshopped after

[@bfdzvalable]

LLMMMAAOOO!!!!!

[@amhoward78]

😆😆

[@michaelgutierrez9862]

They're really trying hard not to step on one another's toes.

[@MomoBeci]

Because respect.

[@DANGJOS]

@@MomoBeci I think he meant literally

[@bluemagoo]

@@DANGJOS Such an underrated comment, you sir have earned my like!

[@jamesmartin2740]

Because Neil is a leftist. Leftists ALWAYS create environments like this.

[@michaelgutierrez9862]

@@DANGJOS You got it

[@the7311]

Having Neil talk to Ben really shows how little Ben actually knows.

[@cipri198zero]

Really Einstein?!

[@bleh9906]

No

[@Play4Vida]

Ben is an impulsive child that thinks he knows it all. The problem he cherry picks people he can bully in debates, but you put him in front of someone that has a little bit of critical thinking skills then Ben crumbles.

[@Turtleofbread]

@@Play4Vida okay, Debra

[@Play4Vida]

@@Turtleofbread relax doofus, did I hurt your feelings on your childish hero, pathetic

[@e.pluribusunum7916]

This was a whole hour where Ben could have learned something but didn't.

[@Vichedges]

He learned, we all did. We learned that if Tyson doesn’t like what scientific research says it’s fine to censor it. You know, to protect “feelings”. I find it interesting that he thinks the whole “trans” political movement doesn’t affect anyone outside of “trans” people. I mean if a white person “identifies” as black does he feel the same way? “Free country” right? If “Transracialism” is taught in schools is he OK with that? It’s a legit phenomena after all.

[@d84928]

As a nurse, hearing Neil deGrass Tyson say "can you lessen the suffering of another human being" made me cry.

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@mags7054]

Neil deGrasse Tyson on God (Response) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoDOoa1_jNN6nrc This video will easily and quickly explain some of the reasons why Neal deGrasse Tyson is wrong.

[@readingslame4869]

​@@mags7054 Do you know what else throws science out of the window?

[@LemManga]

@Mags it's not a contradiction to say that science is irrelevant to semantics. and Neil's religion, or lack thereof, is also not relevant to the conversation. when we talk about whether we should consider trans women "women" has little to do with science and more to do with perceived social norms. i find it ironic you're complaining about "trying to sound smart" while making ad hominem attacks in place of an actual argument.

[@readingslame4869]

@@LemManga excellent explanation

[@BondingleStudios]

This video should have been called “Neil Degrasse Tyson scientifically proves Ben Shapiro is not a Libertarian.”

[@leftward_hoe]

this is actually from 2019 but i am also here after the recent resurfacing of these clips. always a good laugh to see Benny Boi squirm 😁 and i don't mean sexually, because Benny doesn't sex 🥺👉👈

[@BondingleStudios]

@@leftward_hoe his wife has never heard of a wet vagina.

[@kiwidadygirl]

Objectively Neil looks a fool here. Science doesn't matter to him more than his religion of progressivism. If he was self aware at all he would be embarrassed.

[@markhunstein1320]

@@kiwidadygirl nah mate Neil shows a scientific attitude and skepticism while Ben is treating scientific understanding from 90s biology textbooks as unchanging gospel. Like science is descriptive, not prescriptive so when someone describes their own experience and it goes against the commonly understood model, the scientific approach is NOT to say "no that's wrong because science" but instead to say "okay, what's going on with that? How can we learn about this to find if it actually does fit into our model or how can we change our model to account for you"

[@chadbaker310]

They agreed on everything, dude. Check your bias.

[@aatagila]

Neil is as good an astrophysicist as he is s communicator love it.

[@pogtuber5146]

Yeah that's sorta his claim to fame. Plenty of people that are smarter than Neil in astrophysics, but his wide breadth of cultural and scientific knowledge combined with an ability to tie these together to support his arguments make him very easy to listen to and understand from multiple perspectives, regardless of your political beliefs.

[@Cosmicqlity]

Im glad these two who are so different in opinions and views were able to sit and communicate in a calm and composed fashion without belittling or discrediting the other person. It shows that certain issues in society can be discussed (and through this discussion potentially solved) in a civilized manner.

[@BBaum05]

Its cute Ben thinks he's libertarian

[@yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi]

imagine being part of an oppressed culture and ethnic group, and still being a yt supremacy simp fascist boi... I could NEVER

[@restrada1231]

I thought he was smart because he spoke quickly… oh

[@dustinwestphal803]

Policy wise he is. That’s all that matters.

[@crooked_letters]

He's the right's 37 year old boy genius

[@reynoldskynaston9529]

I don’t understand this argument. Are you calling Ben authoritarian? He’s more libertarian than he is authoritarian. You could maybe call him a centrist but I don’t think that’s what you’re saying.

[@JeffHersch]

Man, Neil is just brilliant. I could listen to him talk all day.

[@mattk6719]

Even the most brilliant people are vulnerable to bias, pride, and self-deception. Niel Tyson is a perfect example of a brilliant man living in denial of the evidence around him. Shapiro got him to contradict himself on every topic in this interview.

[@cv799]

@@mattk6719 where

[@saricubra2867]

​@@mattk6719 Imagine calling a scientist biased lmao.

[@frenchonion4595]

@@mattk6719 Neil was unbearable on Rogan. The man micromanaged everything thing Rogan said and constantly interrupted him. Terrible guest

[@yerik6034]

@@saricubra2867 scientist can certainly be biased

[@StrangerInParadise58]

Beautiful discussion. Mutual respect and kudos to both. Thank you for hosting this discussion. We need more of these types of discussions.

[@marke4246]

finally a comment where nobody’s taking a side. i’m just happy to see two intelligent people having discussion without it getting emotionally charged

[@gwenbathory6656]

​@@marke4246 where's the second one? We got Neil here. But where's the other?

[@marke4246]

@@gwenbathory6656 lmao, i don’t think shapiro is nowhere as smart as Neil, but he’s one of the more reasonable conservatives commentators compared to the rest

[@gwenbathory6656]

@@marke4246 agree to disagree

[@marke4246]

@@gwenbathory6656 that’s fair, i’m sure i don’t like shapiro as much as you lol

[@kristophertibbets5986]

Even if you dislike both of these guys, this is an awesome conversation. They obviously disagree, but we can all learn how to talk to each other with examples like this.

[@SuperEdge67]

How could you dislike NDT?

[@kristophertibbets5986]

@@SuperEdge67 I agree. But some do.

[@TheLadymiss22]

@@kristophertibbets5986 🤔

[@josemou6172]

@@SuperEdge67 😭😭😭 he is a bullshitter so easy to dislike

[@SuperEdge67]

@@josemou6172 Really? What is he lying about?

[@AmethystSnow]

I love how Neil thinks before he speaks every sentence

[@joelapuente]

Does he though?

[@TheKennyboy92]

Unlike Ben

[@johndigirolamo5858]

@@joelapuente maybe he's being polite. He's so well-spoken, he pretends he needs to think so the other person doesn't feel bad about taking a second to think.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

An all too rare quality today.

[@user-fh8wg5ew6s]

You mean how he tries really hard to not get canceled?

[@LifeCompanionDogs8083]

For someone so against communism Ben sure loves being publicly owned.

[@maxmeier4039]

Godamn this is an underrated comment 😂

[@SuperEdge67]

Best comment ever! I might have to steal it and use it somewhere else.

[@ront4642]

I rarely comment. This has me rolling 😂 definitely underrated comment!

[@JohnSmith-nu4ix]

No

[@Ghostlyart13]

OH MY GOD SHOTS FIRED

[@Mrst3lios89]

You can easily see Ben’s admiration for this man. He’s truly excited to have him on the show and he’s listening intently to everything he says. This was a real treat! Thank you !!

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@mags7054]

Neil deGrasse Tyson on God (Response) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoDOoa1_jNN6nrc This video will easily and quickly explain some of the reasons why Neal deGrasse Tyson is wrong.

[@italiansurprise]

@@mags7054 what point are you trying to make here?

[@fentyfentyhash9675]

@@italiansurprise learn to read

[@italiansurprise]

@@fentyfentyhash9675 I’ll do that. Thanks!!

[@darksector1389]

I don't watch Ben at all but this is very refreshing to see two Human beings converse about controversial topics respectfully. Seriously if we can just communicate and don't put labels on each other based on our political or religious views, we'll achieve greatness!

[@Az21-]

It's refreshing seeing Ben having an actual conversation instead of a debate. Just two adults sharing their ideas.

[@glazed_waffle5629]

If u can even call it that

[@ianwatkins3480]

I think around the end when it got to gender studies it became a debate. What ben normally does is instead of debating he argues to try to prove himself right instead of trying to unveil truth and come to a conclusion which benefits and brings no harm to all parties. He comes into a debate thinking his point is truth

[@BlackWhite-wx8ew]

And Ben was destroyed.

[@jesusramone5416]

Exactly. Instead of ben and a college child

[@SuperEdge67]

Shapiro got owned by someone who actually thinks for a living.

[@adamk9700]

The most important thing to recognize in this format cannot be understated, which is that weather you agree or disagree with either of them, Ben and Neil are both willing to sit down literally face to face, and have conversations about the most difficult, topical conversations that we all know completely divide so many of us. Full stop! THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN MORE OFTEN. Cheers to both of them!!

[@opietwoep1247]

This is how it used to be until about the 80s when shows like Phil Donahue turned it into a shouting match. Also no audience to clap every 10 seconds

[@King_Illuminaughti]

It’s the key to a functioning democratic republic… why the 1st amendment is the FIRST amendment! 🥇

[@bkemp9245]

Good point

[@Eonsin]

Ben is only acting this way in front of someone of greater intellect which means he is not genuine.

[@jeffwells6016]

Agree, but the word is "whether."

[@pedrocarrazana1157]

I love that he here figured out that a phd is a little harder to debate than a college undergrad 😂😂😂

[@RedNuii]

Wtf are you on about? This has nothing to do with a debate with an undergrad. This is just a formal discussion between 2 very smart people. The fact that your simple mind requires that someone be considered a ‘winner’ is pretty sad

[@JLim4o]

And wheres the debate? I saw an interview and a respectful interviewer, it's rare but it happens

[@johnaajohni2129]

He got that phd just to respond with “why do you care”😂

[@Michael_Ward]

This was no debate, I guarantee Ben would destroy this clown in a debate

[@rustinusti]

@@JLim4o It's an interview that Shapiro somehow _still_ lost because he brought his political motivations into it and his positions were taken apart.

[@joshuahjones4065]

The world needs more open conversation like this.

[@obychnyichelovek6757]

I'm a leftist and i don't like Ben, but massive credit to Ben for inviting Neil, i watched the whole interview!

[@MrGameday15]

Just wondering, but what’s making this interview pop back up? I noticed Kyle Kulinski did a segment on it yesterday so I went to this video and saw a lot of recent comments on it.

[@MrLTLB]

No one actually calls themselves "leftist", you know this right? You literally just exposed yourself, you're not a "leftist". 🤣🤣🤣

[@notificationsareblocked.yo53]

Hey look guys I found a decent leftist who isn’t full of hate! Amazing! Thanks for commenting something actually positive

[@bcxproductions7172]

@@MrLTLB What do you want us to call ourselves then?

[@Rico-oz4ct]

@@notificationsareblocked.yo53 Wow aren't you a little snowflake

[@joseph-fernando-piano]

The difference between debating unprepared college students and debating a college professor...

[@lloydgush]

I saw no difference here. He literally said people have no reason to care about sex besides professional sports. You know, biological sex, it's BIOLOGY and it's SEX. He ain't a vegan, so there's care for biological sex even in his food.

[@kotaman232]

You mean a woke professor that gave a clownish anti science argument

[@lloydgush]

@@kotaman232 He's not woke, he's a hostage of the woke. Of his own making, to be honest, cowardice is a very serious ailment.

[@theonlyone3532]

@@lloydgush How you choose to identify doesnt HAVE to relate to your sex. No one on any side of the political spectrum disagrees that sex is a real thing you are born with that isnt as changeable as people would like for it to be at this time.

[@lloydgush]

@@theonlyone3532 Sex is still absurdly relevant even alone at a desert island. And back to your bailey. "No one on any side of the political spectrum disagrees that sex is a real thing..." I said, and don't make me repeat it, BACK TO THE BAILEY YOU LOVE SO MUCH, you are going to live on that bailey, die on that bailey, your descendants are going to a new species, bailey perenious.

[@j-coldho1164]

Neil degrasse is so comforting to listen to the way he explains science in a way that gives you hope that every individual has a purpose found within themselves and that we are the universe

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@mags7054]

Neil deGrasse Tyson on God (Response) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoDOoa1_jNN6nrc This video will easily and quickly explain some of the reasons why Neal deGrasse Tyson is wrong.

[@TheWassag]

Amazing!!! Loved it. Such a mature discussion

[@ReetBoaTellThee]

Christ, deGrasse Tyson is *almost* bringing out a *little* bit of humanity from Shapiro.

[@chrisbungenstock8552]

The trans question was very exposing for Tyson. He did exactly what Ben said liberals do when it comes to that issue. All of a sudden objective truth became irrelevant to Tyson.

[@bearcudlybear]

@@chrisbungenstock8552 You're living in a fantasy land if you think that was remotely Tyson's argument lmaoo. His rebuttal was mainly to point out that the relationship between gender and sex is purely social/philosophical yet it exists nonetheless, so a true scientific mind would want to uncover that mystery while not trampling peoples rights in the process. Im not even a Tyson fan and I think he's insufferable particularly on Joe Rogan, but hes 100% on the money here.

[@chrisbungenstock8552]

@@bearcudlybear Sure...that's your opinion. But I've watched alot of his stuff, I've never once heard him ask someone "what they were getting at" or "Why are you even asking that" when talking about objective scientific facts. If you watch alot him, this was absolutely exposing. Never seen him act so weird about a question.

[@marekb1556]

@@chrisbungenstock8552 Act so weird? Your brain must be blocking it to protect you from trauma caused by seeing your favourite youtuber getting destroyed or smthng, idk. He divorced natural scientific matter from the social science and philosophy one and explained how the transgenderism question wasn't about biology but identity. Ben was then trying DESPERATELY to frame it in an idiotic "But... But... Trans women not women" way, but finally encountered someone who didn't let him get away with strawmaning so hard

[@ReetBoaTellThee]

@@chrisbungenstock8552 It's pragmatism. The reality is that there are millions of people out there that identify as trans, for whatever reason. Beyond sports, why do you care? Life's too short. Have yourself a nice stretch and relax while liberals like Tyson defend the liberty and freedom of all.

[@aaronburling4362]

I kept expecting Shapiro to ask Tyson "Am I a real boy?"

[@chefawkes]

LOOOOOOOOOL DEAD

[@butthurtz5025]

No

[@yichengyi]

There's so many tropes in this question. Deep, brother.

[@NathanLorenzana]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@_Noopy_]

hahahahhahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahhahaahhaa

[@countofst.germain6417]

The is this best interview Ive ever see with Neil. I'm surprised he was so happy to talk about controversial topics, it really made him seem more human.

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@spookysquirtle]

@@mags7054alright but why should we give a shit? If freedom of religion is a thing, aka believing what you want to believe, why is this an issue

[@Thallus_Alex]

I love everything about NDT. He thinks about every word before he uses it, he's true in him saying he's an educator, he's very patient, he's very funny, and importantly humble. His mind is always open to new things, but he will absolutely not refute with evidence. WHY IS HE TALKING WITH BEN SHAPIRO WHEN THAT"S ALL HE DOES. This is so funny. Even when Ben wanted to talk about how people "can't be trans," Neil's like, "Why the actual hell are we having this conversation? I don't have anything to do with it and you're clearly not open to accepting the science behind it." I'm rolling.

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@spookysquirtle]

@@mags7054ave you really gone and ctrl-V’ed this into every reply disagreeing with your point, was saying it once not enough? Neil states that he is not going to “take religion away from people” despite it being a human concept, this falls under the same category, why should someone saying that they are a woman be taken any less seriously than someone believing that there is an omnipotent person in the sky? Why should I care more if someone believes they were given the wrong gender then if someone believes that there is a different man in the sky than I do

[@udit9957]

The misery of the world is that religious people can be very dangerous… they always find some minority and make their life difficult.. the history is a testament to that…. Niel is always careful when dealing with them

[@Mhats]

they actually have no shoes or socks and were playing footsie the entire time

[@andymcpandy2128]

Footsie with NDG...well there's a new lifegoal.

[@danketsu4282]

Your profile picture got me. God dammit.

[@bethannpinto3029]

😅😅😅😅

[@hetaliangarbage6827]

I was blowing on my screen to get a hair off for so long before I realized it was just your pfp 😭

[@bethannpinto3029]

@@hetaliangarbage6827 😅😅

[@dantoums]

Dave Chappelle next week PLEASE

[@iknown0thing]

I like Dave but he seems too relaxed and almost high in interviews lol.

[@jengleheimerschmitt7941]

That would be f'in amazing... I can't see Dave doing it though. Maybe in a nother year or two.

[@rjdestiny-mx4ir]

@@iknown0thing so basically the total opposite of ben shapiro

[@someone-wd1yn]

That needs to happen!

[@jengleheimerschmitt7941]

@XY ZW Yep. He mentioned it on onebof his shows a while back. I'm guessing it's more of a "screw the man" thing than a devout practice, but that's just a guess. (I just can't picture Chapelle worshipping anything for some reason)...

[@samuelclimaco297]

I applaud both people. They let each other talk and it goes to show that people can have the same fundamental values, but just interpret them in different ways based on experience

[@IntuneVitaDoctrina]

Love seeing clips with Neil deGrasse Tyson on KZbin, he always have something that make me learn something new each day

[@divyangvaidya9675]

I actually like his Sunday specials where he isn't in debate/drama mode.

[@PanchoKnivesForever]

Yeah me too. This is really great! :)

[@jaipoh3965]

I agree. He "sorta" steps away from reality and welcomes a plethora of opinions, etc.

[@divyangvaidya9675]

@BullseyeBullsclaw Not about Neil but the way he talks to his guests.

[@rhatmakesvideos]

Ben "just sell your house and move" shabibo gets his feelings absolutely blasted by an astrophysicist's facts

[@kiwidadygirl]

Huh? I'm not a Ben fan but Neil is HORRIBLE here. This would be embarrassing for him if he was remotely self aware.

[@chadbaker310]

Haha no! Did you even watch it? What are you smoking? This was an interview and they agreed on pretty much everything?

[@RifleEyez]

@@kiwidadygirl you can tell who watched the video and who just watched (or mostly heard about) the little clip released recently of this interview that they see as a “victory” over Shapiro (it’s really not)

[@quronmccovery881]

@easter worshipper Proof?

[@RifleEyez]

@Baked Beaner NDT says policy should be influenced by objective truth based on science in the same video with such authority and conviction, then turns into a stuttering mess during the last 15 odd minutes when Ben flips it on its head and pushes NDT to apply his logic consistently.

[@brrrrr256]

This is like a discussion I'd have with my dad, over and over - for 30 years. I always concluded "Hey, we solved all the problems of society in an hour" And by now, we've had all the conversations we need to.

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@botboy0]

​@@mags7054 why do you copy your one comment under so many others? Are you trying to force your opinions into relevancy?

[@JordanBeemMusic]

I mean what a refreshing talk. We need this type of thing SO BADLY in our society… and here it is. Just big smiles from me 😊.

[@majuli8420]

Shapiro is just sitting there like a school boy. "But but but... I thought talking really fast meant I was smart!!"

[@hershelbabymomma231]

He got destroyed

[@restrada1231]

@@hershelbabymomma231 He got obliterated

[@Susdhshsushs]

No, if you care to watch any of his other Sunday specials. He lets the other person have the talking ground and always wants them to speak, also if you have ever watched Neil talk before then you will know he likes to talk a lot too 😂. So you can’t really make a point when one person speaks 75% of the time

[@dannyb2519]

“B-b-but it’s not a scientific fact🥺”

[@maggiepaul5911]

Ben Shapiro gets destroyed by Neil DeGrasse Tyson with *facts* and *logic.*

[@SimBol1216]

You aren't a libertarian, Ben. Stop pretending you're not just a run-of-the-mill conservative.

[@mfflscotty2095]

He seems right wing moderate libertarian. His positions have leaned libertarian over the years.

[@DivinesLegacy]

@@mfflscotty2095 what opinions have changed?

[@HereticalPuppy]

How is he not libertarian?

[@mfflscotty2095]

@@DivinesLegacy Pro gay marriage and pro weed decriminalization. Perhaps not against legalization of porn anymore

[@MrLTLB]

It's funny how people are recently starting to figure this out...

[@juliennedan2725]

Probably the best discussion I’ve watched so far on this channel

[@michaelgiordano1230]

I love this conversation it’s truly just two people who fundamentally disagree but have immense respect for the other. You can tell one is never trying to convince the other. I love it.

[@logansites]

"I'm a libertarian come over here" meanwhile advocates for laws in the exact opposite way Neil suggests

[@lloydgush]

He ain't, really. Consent and informed consent are important to libertarians. It comes straight from adam smith.

[@xephronzz9585]

@@lloydgush Adam Smith? The economist????????? What are you talking about?

[@lloydgush]

@@xephronzz9585 So, you know nothing about libertarianism and liberalism. Start reading some adam smith.

[@xephronzz9585]

@@lloydgush Libertarianism and liberalism are different mate, it looks like you need to read more about the political ideologies you represent LOL I like people like you, libertarianism and liberalism have "liber" in their name, so they must be the same lmao

[@lloydgush]

@@xephronzz9585 Read fucking adam smith.

[@brianeckes7minutesermonser840]

The random firings of neurons and chemistry in my brain just made me think I enjoyed this conversation.

[@natureboy1961]

Is it random?

[@jay_hawk9762]

Indeed

[@philt6800]

This discussion is between Shapiro with his half ideas and an actual adult with fully formed ideas based on logic and thoughtfulness. I can see Neil came on this show to educate Ben Shapiro

[@BlueberryKim]

This video is one of my absolute favorites ever. The passion of NDT, his patience to explain and his way of talking without reacting negatively but actually openly about hot topics are some qualities we all need more as a civilization. Ben Shapiro also did a good job presenting his ideas in a calm non- aggressive way.

[@falcondark5338]

Ben: facts don't care about your feelings. Neil: true, also feelings are facts.

[@krislaffredi3622]

That is basic, there is truth in dialectic above that truth that is obtained from the dialectic.

[@seranonable]

He said you should get your mind blown once a week, so...

[@firefalcoln]

First off, learn how to spell the name: Neil. Second, there is no monopoly of facts or feelings for either individual. Such a notion is ridiculous. If anything, the person who puts a clearly debunked religion as their basis for morality, is the one who doesn’t have a grip on evidence informing their feelings as opposed to their feelings constructing “evidence” that leads to ones intended conclusion.

[@falcondark5338]

Brian Johnson First off, good point. Sorry Neil. Second, I wasn't trying to say anyone had a monopoly. Just pointing out the move Neil made (I think it's known as a phenomenological position) to consider a person's subjective reality fact because it's real enough to them. I think there are some advantages to that, but you have to draw a line somewhere. For example he isn't quite as considerate of the subjective reality of people who feel the earth is flat.

[@firefalcoln]

Falcondark5 I think what matters is if the person arguing that they’re gender contradicts their sex thinks their gender is a literal description of reality, or their subjective perception of themself. Is their own label a literal description of their biology or a subjective description of their humanity. That’s the distinction where I will decide if I respect or won’t respect a trans person’s label. It can be impolite and awkward to get into those details with trans people. So I try to give them the benefit-of-the-doubt if I don’t know yet. As for the flat-earthers, I think that’s a poor analogy because there doesn’t seem to be a question over whether or not it’s a literal or subjective opinion if the earth is flat or an oblong sphere.

[@sergiogarcia1777]

I personally think Neil wasn’t in the mood to argue but open and discuss topics. Every time ben tried to change the conversion into an argument or disagreement, Neil was amazing at redirecting it back into a open conversation

[@SusieAlvarez77]

That’s how he carries himself. He’s a true intellectual - his conversations are explorations not competitions.

[@sergiogarcia1777]

@@SusieAlvarez77 that gave me a new outlook. Thank you

[@alexisscalabrini8753]

If you argue you can't or have a lower chance to change someone mind or idea. If you discuss, you have more chance to make someone change their mind, i think.

[@alexisscalabrini8753]

Neil is awesome, he should make master class lol

[@keepinitkawaii]

He deals with people trying to make arguments all the time. Hes good at acknowledging peoples beliefs and being respectful

[@Shahabbi]

I just want to point out how civilized and concrete this conversation was. It was refreshing to see a conversation where scientific fact is the basis of argument rather than opinion or agenda. Neil makes a great argument on the freedom of the individual. Thanks for this interview Ben!

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@alexhawryczszuk205]

​@@mags7054he is not throwing cience out,he is saying we should protect people's Freedom.

[@hannahbaxter8825]

"But where are you going with this?" Love that.

[@greg3087]

Exactly. NDT isn’t some squirrelly college kid who can be stumped by Ben’s rapid fire take downs. He knows exactly what Ben’s about and calls him on it.

[@edifiedreader]

"You should get your mind blown at least once a week." New favorite quote!

[@deztructo123]

I had my mind blown this week by being told that if i stare at a really bright light when i need to sneeze, it makes the feeling go away. Beat that Neil Degrasse Tyson!

[@bobburton3982]

@@deztructo123 There's a group of nerves just below the centre of your nose, above your top lip. If you feel you are going to sneeze, just push on those nerves and the need to sneeze goes away.. That may not blow your mind, but it saves your nose being blown! 😃

[@polite_as_fuck]

deztructo123 - I thought looking at a bright light when you’re in sneezing limbo actually _helped_ you sneeze? That’s what it does to me.

[@potatos_4_free]

@@polite_as_fuck same here.

[@aslan2709]

That’s a dumbass statement/quote that reeks of pandering if we’re being real. If you’re getting your mind blown once a week then I’d be a little concerned about your own intellectual foundation that has rendered you so uninformed. “Dude, did you know that we still have troops in the Middle East?” “...uhh yeah, honestly how’ve you not known that?”

[@cullen4847]

Oh my god. That ExpressVPN ad was so out of nowhere and so aggressive. SO not smooth it made me laugh.

[@CrazyLinguiniLegs]

Lol, it came on as I started reading your comment and I was thinking "what the hell's Shapiro talking about?"

[@drmedwuast]

Isn’t it exactly like that with literally every add Ben does on this show?

[@anthonybrett]

True, but the real question is...are you now using Express VPN? Obviously not, because I understood your entire comment! NO Encryption! Get with it bro!

[@joshthompson8506]

Yeah it was about as smooth as its service. Don't get ExpressVPN it sucks!

[@budemawa411]

It’s part of Ben’s appeal, weird disjointed, aggressive ads 😂

[@davideberhardt1361]

I enjoy how Ben has cordial friendly conversations and admits agreement in so many areas because it is actually okay to agree with people on a few topics

[@ivanrodriguez268]

but does he? or just for the sake of the interview? I've seen him debate these same topics with others and he has very different reactions...

[@davideberhardt1361]

@@ivanrodriguez268 he might just be intimidated by Neil in hindsight

[@babagalacticus]

@@davideberhardt1361 BINGO!!! this is an intellectually GROWN man who actually IS a scientist but also happens to be a cosmologist & a HUMANIST speaking to a manchild who is obsessed with beating ppl down who disagree with his rigid, calcified (often malicious) perspectives.

[@davideberhardt1361]

@@babagalacticus no in hindsight I realize Ben was probably just intimidated and chose good behavior instead of his usual childish "own the libs" bullshit, he would've if he could've

[@davideberhardt1361]

@@ivanrodriguez268 I don’t know what i was thinking that night, Ben is a selfish little twat, he behaved for selfish reasons whether it was for the interview or fear of Neil's ACTUAL intellect who knows, Ben wasn't trying to help society, took a quick break from being a twat and Republicans will take nothing from it or won't watch at all

[@PretiumLibertatisEstVigilantia]

I'm so glad that Neal Degrass finally dropped a heavy lid on Shapiro's obsession on Trans issues. Shapiro's motive matters, as Degrass explained because that will determine the consequences. It doesn't matter how Trans come about, regardless if science deems it as a social, psychological, or biological; it's a fact that it's part of the human experience and in a free country keep your hands off other people's body. In terms of issues of trans in sport etc.. I'm sure we will work that out as we have other issues in a way that won't jeopardize people's freedoms.

[@MitchBolton]

"If you still care that sports is an interesting activity." Neil throwing shade!

[@lemonsunshine947]

Sports is no longer interesting. So many people are tired of the “woke” athletes. Nobody is interested in watching rich privileged people that use their names to try and sway people to buy into the government’s propaganda. People are seeing them as nothing more than political tools.

[@Leivve]

@@lemonsunshine947 Ah yes, Jackie Robinson, the famous political tool. No, what it comes down to is you don't like when people tell you the world you want to preserve is in fact super broken and people calling for change are completely justified. What you don't like is that the Athletes don't agree with you; you're perfectly content with people who use their platform that are on your side.

[@lemonsunshine947]

@@Leivve Isn’t Jackie Robinson dead? The world is being broken by people without any common sense. The brainwashed college graduates with their absolute insanity are the problem. It has nothing to do with agreeing with me. It’s the fact they are trying to use their influence in an attempt dictate what others believe. The fact that the left is trying to censor opinions and information of the right, is straight from the communist playbook. Free speech is for everyone. Even if it hurts special little feelings.

[@thejquinn]

@@lemonsunshine947 Lol how can the right even say they care about womens sports when they dont even air any on any of their networks? (mic drop)

[@lemonsunshine947]

@@thejquinn mic drop. That’s cute. 😂 Nobody cares about either male or female sports anymore. Whether they get airtime on tv or not. Male sports is for biological men and women’s sports are for biological women.

[@MollyOKami]

The man is proof that "knowledge" and "wisdom" are NOT synonymous.

[@kaga13]

They never were

[@mydickforpresident5992]

Exactly what Dennis Prager was talking about for decades

[@lancehowell3070]

Neil lacking spiritual discernment

[@kaga13]

@@lancehowell3070 nothing spiritual to discern

[@matiasagnese5563]

It's pretty subjective what wisdom is, so this statement of yours has no merit. Because I, and a lot of other people, think he's incredibly wise.

[@DCorn098]

Amazing interview. Congrats to the 2 and the team.

[@scotthastings8569]

I've never really watched anything with Ben Shapiro before. Neil deGrasse Tyson drew me in. I enjoyed the discussion from both sides. Well done!

[@clivehandforth3531]

i used to think ndt was cringe but his humongous brain literally made my heart grow three sizes goddamn

[@kubush]

How was he cringe? 🤷‍♂️

[@willia3r]

@@kubush that's what I want to know. NDT usually approaches things from an objective scientific perspective.

[@brenikkifloyd]

Cringe? Why?

[@RifleEyez]

@@brenikkifloyd he’s said a lot of incorrect things and contributes nothing to academic research

[@monkeyman193]

@@RifleEyez not in your universe he doesn't.

[@deon1765]

Even thought I disagree with NDT on a lot, I do respect him for coming on this show. I also respect Ben for standing his ground on Transgenderism. No matter who hes talking to hes always consistent on his positions. Thats why I love Ben

[@TheReaperCDN]

LMFAO. Hey, remember that time Ben threw a giant fit when being asked questions and lost his shit in the middle of an interview? Always consistent my ass. Every time he's backed into a corner he throws a tantrum coupled with the words, "Radical ideology!"

[@Meteor2022]

@@TheReaperCDN That's just human. I get pissed when people nag me with leading questions.

[@rebelfriend5172]

Lino Ciaralli I like how bens been in the public eye for a good amount of time and this is the only dirt people seem to have on him

[@krg021865]

So, just curious, what do you disagree with him about?

[@ironknight1255]

@@Dev-zr8si He even addressed the BBC interview in the Meghan McCain Sunday Special. It's on his list of things he'd do differently.

[@sarahcornetta7110]

NDT explains scientific concepts in a way that they become understandable and accessible to laypeople, I can feel the neural connections forming with each point he makes!

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@jeanine4399]

Neil is great! I really appreciate him! ❤

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@ivbyse]

DeGrasse Tyson is just so many worlds above Shapiro, it's almost unreal

[@RifleEyez]

Yeah I’m surprised he can find time to attend these with all the contributions to research he actually does as an academic (sarcasm). Don’t remember reading a paper with his name on it

[@RifleEyez]

@@naothedrengr Great, but by the same token Ben also studied at Harvard (Law) and UCLA, had a national syndicated column by 17, books by 20, his own LA based legal consulting firm, and built up The Daily Wire (regardless of if you like the content or not) but people still call him a retard, so that doesn't seem to matter.

[@prod.luvletter]

@@RifleEyez How are you making the argument that Ben is as smart if not more then Neil. That seems unreal

[@lloydgush]

He should be, he isn't here.

[@MohitKumar-jf8lz]

@@prod.luvletter you people have become the same thing u hated. Religious fundamentalists, the pope has said it so its final. A certain group of scientists have said it so it's final. While discouraging others. I thought that was the point of science that I can argue with u if my logic is sound.

[@youareright4600]

Niel: "You should get your mind blown once a day" What Ben Should have responded: "There are 2 genders"

[@hp1515]

He knows that, he's just to much of a coward to admit it.

[@carlosfdz7807]

NDT also said that the only reason for the gender distinction is for sports purposes. That is not true. There is also gender segregation in bathrooms. This is not a trivial thing, clearly.

[@jellevanelten1483]

In a sense it's true that there are 2 genders and it's also true that there are more. In biology there's only 2 genders, in society there's infinite genders. Both are interesting subjects to study.

[@carlosfdz7807]

@@jellevanelten1483 But that is like saying that in society the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and 6,000 years old, etc.. So both are true.

[@Rensoku611]

Imagine getting obsessed over how many genders are there

[@roycarlson0517]

This conversation made my day😂❤ and i hope they come together again ❤

[@blackdragongametech912]

Neil Sir and Ben Shapiro thanks for discussing important issues.. Neil Sir you are an eye opener....

[@blackerpanther3329]

Get Brian Cox on as another physicist, Neil isn’t the only physicist out there.

[@iknown0thing]

@Dave Brian Greene or Lawrence Krauss. Lol those four guys taught me so much as did Michio Kaku who was the first one I used to watch in the Science channel lol 20 years ago but I don't think it was called the science channel back then.

[@nicholasnajibi3082]

Blacker Panther yea Neil is too pop.

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

@@iknown0thing Brian Greene is the man. Loved his itchy and scratchy analogies.

[@oafpolitics179]

Oh God, please no. The smarmy condescending tone is quite offensive.

[@polite_as_fuck]

Sean Carroll is another good one, but more along the lines of quantum mechanics and theoretical physics.

[@WilliamtheWorst]

While I enjoyed the interview, I was quite surprised how badly he defended the trans movement. It's laughable that a scientist would only use science when convenient for their politics. The exact thing he was inferring to Ben. Observable & repeatable madness...

[@eddieandrews4808]

Agreed

[@m.sand-]

They use the term “science” to deceive in almost all cases of these “so called” scientist. He , bill nye , the other corny dude they are all simply shills pushing a government agenda. Dumbing down the world and making everyone feel tiny and useless. Shameful.

[@darrengordon-hill]

Pathetic puppet! "OMG, a science black" Always bigger pawns

[@WilliamtheWorst]

​@@darrengordon-hill I'm all for real scientists who can recognize biology for what it is, whether they are black, brown, white, orange, lilac, or fuchsia.

[@Guerrilla727]

@@m.sand- Imagine being anti science lmao

[@PrestonDuppinsJr]

Thoroughly enjoyed the conversation!

[@az_frontier_8476]

Neil is clearly the bigger man here, and yet I still respect Ben for his thoughts and questions... human understanding and beliefs will forever be this worlds doom, guaranteed. Never would people question each others opinions or concerns, had it not been for religion.

[@blarblablarblar]

Don't let this video distract you from the fact that Ben Shapiro's wife is a doctor

[@ChiTownsFinest1225]

Hahahaha

[@jtello91]

💀

[@dinkin_flicka14]

So?

[@divyangvaidya9675]

And he's an astrophysicist with a doctorate.

[@nanos1267]

@@dinkin_flicka14 I'll have you know, Ben's wife IS a doctor.

[@seranonable]

I love episodes like this. It's way more interesting to hear two smart people who disagree than two people (smart or not) who are in complete political harmony.

[@joeldanker-dake9414]

I appreciate that Shapiro brings on a variety of guests, including those with viewpoints that differ from his.

[@InvestwithPablo]

Neil is an amazing person. He is intelligent and knows how to frame his answers in such a disarming manner. He is as bright as they come. Ben is usually able to corner people but that wasn't the case in this hour long interview. We need more of this kind of objective dialogue.

[@erastvandoren]

He is a disgusting liar.

[@kirkleidemann5051]

Neil is a lost agnostic. His view on truth is meaningless.

[@taylorsimants6241]

Neil's voice and the way he explains things really helped me get through hearing Ben's shrill little man voice.

[@Joey-vq8bh]

@NEO ehh he’s a pretty smart guy idk

[@matthewvoorhis3741]

To call a man not a man based on his voice is insulting and ignorant. Look at mike Tyson. He will kick your ass but sounds like a lady bug. Your voice has nothing to do with how much of a “man” you are

[@matthewvoorhis3741]

@@Joey-vq8bh :)

[@matthewvoorhis3741]

@NEO bens smart in politics and he knows how to argue a point no matter what point he’s given. Just because we don’t agree with his opinions doesn’t mean he isn’t aloud to have them or mean he is less of a “man”

[@taylorsimants6241]

@@matthewvoorhis3741 I think you might be internalizing something. I specifically called him a man, little was just a descriptive word :)

[@TheTribute410]

I love how he implies that if you’re a libertarian or conservative, you’re not about helping people. Last time I checked, we are the parties of the church and give the most to charity… As well as in powering the individual to protect against the mob

[@mjbull5156]

It is quite obvious that "helping people" to him means laws and government programs, not private charities.

[@markwest8960]

Exactly what I was thinking too. Nanny statists can't wrap their heads around the fact that there may be other non-govt forced ways to help people in need. Typical nanny statist mindset.

[@hp1515]

In my experience the government is the worst at helping people. They usually make the situation worse the more they get involved.

[@TheTribute410]

Mark West Well the left are professionals that are racing history, because if People really knew their history, they would know that the church and charity are the second place you go right after family and well before seeking government help

[@CALISUPERSPORT]

Yeah b-but....muh racist white conservatives tho

[@user-xx2hj7xb6b]

Brilliant conversation by two brilliant people. Love to hear them talk and articulate these ideas.

[@rikdicosoejdosjehxiox]

This NEEDS to happen again Ben!!!

[@AzsuraX]

This is such an important interview in the sense that people who see things completely differently can sit down and talk about their thoughts/perspective

[@joenuhhh]

Neils so good at keeping a calm conversation. I loved this. God bless everyone who can actually have productive discussions like this. Honestly after hearing them talk I don’t even know who I agree with. In today’s age I think that’s a really good thing.

[@kacodemonio]

Patience is required to deal with immature folks.

[@bingbongjoel6581]

Are you fucking dumb? Take a stance motherfucker

[@mags7054]

42:55 Neil deGrasse Tyson "...otherwise, why do we even give a sh*t" and just like that, he throws his science straight out the window. Now he wants to respect what other people believe. Another the smart sounding atheist contradicting himself, right at the fundamental, principle core of his arguments.

[@mags7054]

Neil deGrasse Tyson on God (Response) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoDOoa1_jNN6nrc This video will easily and quickly explain some of the reasons why Neal deGrasse Tyson is wrong.

[@Rohit_Sevalkar]

I thought nobody could answer Ben Shapiro's questions. Neil did though, and he actually did a very good job.

[@terrancepage9163]

I absolutely hate Ben Shapiro but was insanely surprised at how civil and respectful he was in this interview. If only people could have these types of interactions more often.

[@CATboss001]

Can't tell you how much the jokes and laughing in between serious conversation made this video so wholesome

[@gerhardventer1098]

The best thing to come out of this interview is this exact quote: "We are romantic meatballs, floating in space."

[@henryreinhart5912]

The Word of/from our Creator/Savior & His Gospel begs to differ.

[@krieghart5515]

@@henryreinhart5912 clinging to your interpretation of the Bible is what begs to differ. You haven't listened to a single word of the Christ at all.

[@mandalorianactual1215]

It would be incredible to watch you, with Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson and Dr. Jordan Peterson having a conversation together.

[@sskgrs]

Jordan Peterson is a clown :-)

[@helgashouseofpain]

Mind blown: Mr.Tyson, thank you for your perspective on creating a mission/purpose/meaning/learning…instead of assuming it’s something we “find”, this really impacted me.