PlayStation Mad at Xbox About Call of Duty Still

[@DestinL]

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[@williamg.1805]

Jim Ryan is speaking for one reason.... Have you seen Sony's stock price lately? The overall market has been down but Sony has been performing even worse.

[@TheNivektube]

Sony don’t take games away through Acquisitions 🤢very scummy

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Fony: mimimimimimi Microsoft : you know we are adults and this is called business.

[@JohnnyX262]

My immediate thoughts were, where was that concern about PS Gamers when it came to increasing the price of games, hardware, and 10 dollar upgrade patch costs.

[@ari.nogueira]

As I mentioned in a comment bellow, Jim had a bad move and it can have big implications, but I'm not talking about it in here, just mentioning that yes, you deserve some time to relax, play videogames and enjoy your free time wife your wife/kid buddy! Take care!

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Sony is unbelievable bitter, Jim should know Sony's history of blocking games before criticizing Microsoft

[@DestinL]

"Compete" "Wait not like that"

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

@@DestinL Exactly

[@jamesbullo]

@@DestinL 😆

[@adrianhosein7698]

@@DestinL when has Sony bought large publishers and tried to give their competition a shitty deal?

[@plkrtn]

@@adrianhosein7698 Its not that they haven't wanted to, its that they couldn't afford to. Instead they've paid to take franchises that were multiplatform exclusive, or negotiated contracts blocking Microsoft from doing deals to add games to Game Pass.

[@dontworry7440]

The levels of embarrassment and hypocrisy by Jim Ryan during this saga has been startling. Only Jim Ryan could turn a $70B acquisition by MS into a PR victory for MS.

[@bambole82]

I've been a playstation user all my life,Jim Ryan and his attitudes and greaddy choices pushed me away from the brand. Shame but I think if he isn't replaced he's gonna make Playstation the iPhone of gaming.

[@JonnyReturns]

@@bambole82 the iPhone of gaming? Haha iPhone has the most market share in the world.

[@TheOnlyImp]

@@JonnyReturns but it's still shit imo.. prefere android by a million miles.

[@Cricis11700]

Playstation already is the Iphone of the gaming world except without all the money 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JonnyReturns]

@@TheOnlyImp you can think its shit but it changes nothing. I think Taylor Swifts music is shit but she’s still rich as hell.

[@SmCxDramatik]

This is so childish.... "Sony. It's Microsoft's turn" Microsoft: Here Sony we can share. Sony: NO!!! I don't want it unless I can have it all to myself!!!"

[@jtkoo1898]

Pretty much lol

[@jamesw884]

Yep thats accurate

[@Blackronin357]

@L80skidd if they were, they would be going all in cuz their reserve funding would be sucked out. MS can toss 70b and still do other huge deals w/ no issues.

[@dannypassion]

Yup

[@1969Makaveli]

@@Blackronin357 Yeah cause Microsoft is a trillion dollar company. And SONY is a billion dollar company still going through some financial troubles.

[@usovinny7567]

Man I’d be embarrassed if I was a Sony executive. The activision deal has made Jim Ryan make PlayStation look weak and unable to compete.

[@SlimSkillz]

I agree to this statement

[@sergiodiaz2725]

I’d be looking to leave if I were a developer, when the highest seat of your division keeps shitting on you it’s time to walk.

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

Sony needs to get rid of Jim Ryan ASAP , dudes wrecking that comapny every single month , everything he's done has hurt them , how the hell did he ever get that position?

[@SamuraiMerrick]

I almost wish Xbox and Nintendo would drop their console prices just to smite Sony and make them look worse.

[@MagiofAsura]

@@fawkkyutuu8851 probably money. That usually grease's the gears of beaurocracy

[@TheWholeGrainBread_Real]

Lmao, Jim Ryan crying about this yet holding FF7R hostage, Spiderman exclusive, shopping for exclusivity on Resident Evil and even Starfield shows how much of a hypocrite he is. Dudes a walking L.

[@ronhampton1542]

Spiderman is a Sony Product why name that yall Xbox dudes weird as hell u comparing a home grown game to a company buying a publisher how dumb are yall fr

[@shadywaitamin2409]

THIS! how are ponies defending it is mind boggling. Ponies know very well that if Sony had the balls to purchase Activision they would have made it 100% exclusive. Take a hike Jim Lying.

[@vaguedreams]

This is a beyond stupid take. Look, Square is just as responsible, if not MORE SO, for FF7r not being on other consoles. Any good sized company that takes a payout to not release a product on another platform IN THIS DAY AND AGE is just as culpable as the people offering the money. Large publishers are even more so, IMO, because they don't need the payout. This isn't like the PS1 and Ps2 erra's where consoles all had varied internals and design environments. Releasing FF7 required a ton of rework for the PS1, and would have required even more to release it on the Saturn, and it was just plain impossible to fit on a standard N64 cart. Since the last gen of gaming these consoles have been practically the same thing.

[@victime4360]

@@vaguedreams so you are saying that square is even worse, i thought you were defending sony for a moment

[@jtkoo1898]

Facts!!

[@ianjohn5404]

Sony: makes everything they touch exclusive Also Sony: “hey, only we can have exclusives!”

[@leeartlee915]

I’ve been secretly hoping MS is totally lying and they do pull all these games off Sony. It would be fascinating to see if Sony can truly live alone on their 1st party games. People act like they can’t be touched. Let’s found out.

[@PhilosopherJEB]

“Rules for thee, and not for me,” eh? Classic PlayStation™️

[@sumomaster5585]

If you were him, would you anything different? this isn't about integrity or bs like that, this is business.

[@LouSassol69er]

@@sumomaster5585 could've been handled better...

[@informaldeviant7751]

The hypocrisy is laughable at this point. I'm just sitting back laughing now. 🤷‍♂️

[@LOTW1]

For years Playstation has been paying for exclusives, time exclusives and console exclusive content. To this very day Sony has exclusives from Bethesda and Xbox still hasn't seen FF7 Remake because Sony keeps paying for the exclusivity. It's been know for quite some time that Sony is also making anti-gamepass deals behind closed doors with some developers. On top of that, when Microsoft and other developers were pushing for crossplay. Sony was totally against it. After all of that Sony still thinks it's unfair?

[@kill3rbyysight]

never as big game as call of duty

[@shadywaitamin2409]

@@kill3rbyysight how tf does it matter? MS having bigger pockets isnt MS fault. WIth bigger pockets comes ability to buy bigger things. If Sony had the same money like MS did they would have bought it and made it exclusive. GTFO with that argument saying no game is as big as COD. Jim Ryan is an aboslute nut job cause he destroyed the entire reputation of PS exclusives and their developers by comparing it with COD. Simple logic, PS only cares about money not what Gamers like us want. I am sick and tired of listening these BS arguments.

[@kill3rbyysight]

but I'm a cod player and I wud like cod to stay on ps which I'm playin from PS2 days

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

In FF7's case that was always a Playstation exclusive It was never multiplatform In the 90's except a PC port so It's not a fair trade/comparison , FF7 significantly helped make PS1 and the Playstation brand the success It became during 5th gen (PS1 still would've won the generation anyway js). I agree though that Sony Is being a whiny hypocrite , but the only IP that can maybe compare to COD Is GTA.

[@jessey1729]

@@kill3rbyysight if I spit 2oz. of spit in your face and you spit a gallon of spit back on mine, I still spit first. Maybe you can understand it better if it’s dumbed down for you.

[@JeremyLouisGaming]

The sense of Entitlement coming from Sony and Jim Ryan is astounding.

[@TenebrisGladius]

....a brand reflecting their consumer base's mindset/behavior? Wow, unexpected.

[@maizeman90]

Ryan speaking out was a big mistake IMO. I can't imagine anyone on his PR and legal teams are happy with his comments. He just told all of the regulators, publicly, "yeah, we were offered a deal to keep the game multi-platform and we turned it down because we wanted more...even though we are not owed that." I'd wager Xbox offered a rolling deal (like they already have with Sony for Minecraft) that is 3 years in length and is renegotiated and renewed every 3 years. Xbox would be idiotic to offer a long-term deal or a perpetual deal. Ryan knows this and I think he's telling a half-truth to help his case, or so he thinks...but it isn't.

[@sumomaster5585]

I don't see the point the point of MS going exclusive with CoD...actually I would put it on PS store and use it to advertise GP for PS gamers.

[@shadywaitamin2409]

@@sumomaster5585 Nope. COD should now be an XBOX only exclusive. Sony is BS company and 100% deserve it after treating and calling out MS this way. Sony would have made it exclusive. MS is not obligated to share.

[@sumomaster5585]

@@shadywaitamin2409 If you were the CEO would you make decisions based on interests or emotions? I would def weaponise CoD to get some concessions and still use it to advertise GP

[@shadywaitamin2409]

@@sumomaster5585 maybe that is why none of us are the CEO. But, this isn't all emotion talking it is business at the end of the day. If Sony acts like the way it does, why would anyone want to do business with them? After all the shady stunts they have pulled, I would keep the COD exclusive and get them humbled.

[@sumomaster5585]

@@shadywaitamin2409 Because in business you don't play fair, you do what makes you the most profit....which is usually playing dirty. sometimes it pays to be the good champ of the ppl, but let's not kid ourselves...MS are no saints. If they were in PS position, they would be just as shitty

[@doxthafox1138]

I've lost so much respect for Sony recently. They look weak AF right now.

[@LouSassol69er]

It's what happens when you dominate a generation, they get a feeling of entitlement and get complacent. They're feeling threatened by the strides and investment Microsoft have made in recent years.

[@doxthafox1138]

@@LouSassol69er agree 💯

[@arcadius3257]

My favorite part is where Jim Ryan tried to make it a "The good of the consumers" thing, after just raising the price on PS5's, already having raised the price on their games and likely raising the price of PS plus in the near future.

[@MemoriesDestroyUs]

And charging devs a tax to enable crossplay cause Sony would prefer if u just bought a PS to play with your friends

[@primemetroid4427]

Don’t forget indies said they aren’t allowed to have sales on their OWN games on psn. They need permission and Sony often rejected them. Sony also stopped allowing retailers to sell digital codes so they have complete control of their psn store and price.

[@ItzChrisPR]

Wow….what a PR nightmare for Sony Jim Ryan is. They are showing that they are nothing but a petty, bitter, sore loser brand. This is even more evidence of Sony’s fearfulness of Xbox.

[@dannypassion]

Lol exactly 💯

[@hectorpcmr.]

I've been a PlayStation fan for over twenty years, still have my original PlayStation. I'm getting very tired of Jim Ryan and the new Sony Playstation.

[@dusermiginte4647]

Me to man, me to..

[@nicarlos73]

Jim "dance shoes" Ryan fu@%ed up with this one.. Phil Spencer's response: " Fair enough Jim.. here's a revised timeframe of the contract extension" Jim Ryan: " ... But this one says the COD deal will be extended for 0 years" Spencer: " That's correct...."

[@joypadbandit624]

ROFL! 😂🤣

[@daRealB-Rex]

“I have altered the deal. Pray I don’t alter it further.” - Phil Spencer probably

[@Rheisler1475]

Puddy from Seinfeld: Yeah that’s right

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

😂😂😂😂

[@marty5300]

"inadequate"? How are they entitled to any damn thing when it becomes the property of Xbox? The hypocrisy and arrogance are amazing.

[@KaiLordZA]

Let's be honest. If it was Sony buying Activision Blizzard, you can be certain that COD, Diablo, Overwatch, etc would of become a permanent exclusive (worst-case scenario) or a lengthy timed exclusive and Phil wouldn't be crying - he would shrug his shoulders, roll up his sleeves and come up with alternatives for Xbox. Sony has become complacent and now that Xbox is following their playbook but in a more classy way, they don't want the competition. Sony will still get all of these games but the fanboys are mad because Xbox players will get to play these games via Game Pass for a fraction of the price while they would have to fork over top dollar. The outrage coming from this deal is too funny and I'm loving every minute! 😂😏🍿

[@deeplaysgaming4754]

irs so embarassing considering its the "EXCLUSIVES" that ps players want! they dont want multiplayer shooters!!! especially the most popular fps shooter for the past 15 years.

[@gotchya9403]

Just get a new 2022 Samsung Smart TV. No need to get sn Xbox ever again as you can play Game Pass games on it. Thats one thing I love that Xbox did.

[@justkillme3423]

@@gotchya9403 i kinda hate cloud gaming nobody likes dealing with input lag

[@gotchya9403]

@@justkillme3423 Yeah, it'll likely get better and better though somehow. Most people who have tried it said it runs so smooth.

[@DemendraHD]

@@gotchya9403 We only recently got it in NZ. The screen rendering is so delayed, it's not even worth playing. I use it just to get the Gamepass points.

[@EricTheRed06]

Inadequate ON MANY LEVELS. It seems as though no amount of years guaranteeing COD would remain on Playstation is enough. Jim Ryan just doesn't want COD on Gamepass no matter what.

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

Now I say Microsoft makes exclusive cod content for xbox gamers since sony refused the deal that also offered them parity.

[@Tony-B23]

@jayanth rao the definition of "several" is more than two but not many. So Phil being accurate is "slimy"? And unless I misunderstood the article that I saw Phil offered to extend past the 3 years.

[@spazco8669]

truth. being full price on station and gamepass day one would do just as much damage as if it was exclusive.

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

@@spazco8669 na the sony guys seem happy I overpay for things that's why they went playstation in the first place

[@spazco8669]

@@De1usionsofGrandeur some will, but the vast majority of cod players are not playstaion loyalists. They are cod loyalists.

[@ArcanistBlack]

Go home PlayStation, you’re drunk.

[@EthanRom]

drunk with power

[@dusermiginte4647]

@@EthanRom Drowning in debt... $2.09T in debt... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@LouSassol69er]

Desperation on Jim's part. Obviously he can feel the pressure from Microsoft, they're seriously not playing around this generation with the purchases and investment for their future.

[@gogreengameon2146]

They should take future Minecrafts off the PlayStation platform and make it exclusive, everywhere but there lol.

[@kthebarbarian8223]

@@gogreengameon2146 Retaliatory action would definitely kill this deal without a doubt. People don't understand that it was MS's own words that caused the CMA to investigate them. Saying that they aren't buying these publishers to take games away from other platforms only to expressly state later that once 3rd party titles might be EXCLUSIVE, and offering a 3 year extension on COD to SONY highlighted the contradictory and hypocritical nature of their PR stance vs their actual business practices. It's a clear intent to eventually take COD away from PS's audience. They've now come off a disingenuous liars. Taking Minecraft off would be the nail in that coffin. The CMA already thinks this move looks monopolistic hence the investigation, but we'll see which way it leads. My guess is that the deal still goes through.

[@IslandBoy-808]

@@kthebarbarian8223 . The CMA is a group of Sony kiss asses. Looks at all the anti-competitive 💩Sony has done,and nobody,and I don't see the CMA stepping in and saying anything.

[@deeplaysgaming4754]

@@kthebarbarian8223 you cant predict the future of gaming, microsoft are paying 68 billlion for the IP, thats a ton load of money nobody knows if future cod games will be succesful so why should xbox be tied down to provide THEIR franchise for 3 years to sony not knowing how profitable it will be, microsoft didnt get streetfighter or FF becasue sony paid money (and it wasnt 68 billion either) so sony can just pay (without owning IP) for exclusive games keeping them off xbox when they were traditionally multi platform but MS buying the IP outright and they are forced to provide the company ahead of them in gaming market with IP theyve invested 68 billion in for 3 years generating 6 billion for sony? (sony make 2 billion a year from cod) seems fair.

[@tji7046]

I have no idea what "private business discussion" means. Xbox/Phil can disclose sending you a letter or signed agreement if they wish, that's them talking about what THEY offered to you, if they mentioned how YOU responded to that offer then I can see a complaint and that's even reaching. They can turn around right now and offer YOU 4 years or 5 and release that statement to public, exact same thing..would it be private? No. But maybe you offered God of War as a response...if you did I can see why you might be annoyed....but..you didn't.. you offered nothing and even if you did, they didn't disclose what you offered.. this moaning is baffling. I'm not one for bashing PlayStation or Jim Ryan but this entitled mindset really erked me. Stop crying and compete.

[@sternritternovad]

Jim Ryan : Buys Final Fantasy exclusivity, Buys exclusive content, Blocks content from Gamepass, and throws shade at Microsoft. Phil Spencer : Fine I'll just but Bethesda and Activision Blizzard. Jim Ryan : But but but your Exclusives hurt Playstation pwease share.

[@vaguedreams]

well, lets be fair, that exclusive stuff was well before Ryan was in charge, but yes, I agree.

[@blusterya6540]

If Sony was buying Activision you KNOW all games would be exclusive!!!

[@daRealB-Rex]

that would be their intention. Sony would probably have enough market share to be considered a monopoly at that point. No regulatory body would allow that acquisition to go through

[@uchenna127]

The exclusivity argument is just a crutch Sony is using to prevent this deal from going ahead; as they know, from a legal standpoint, it's all they have. In truth, the only thing they fear is COD coming to Game Pass. I mean, whether it's available on PlayStation or not, is render moot, the moment people have the option of turning on their Samsung TV, loading up Game Pass, and playing the game directly through their TV. Why spend all that money, that they otherwise would have, if they can now play the game for a measly monthly fee.

[@ginopippofrebooter-ilrinne2881]

Because if I'm a Sony user I'd need to spend another 500 bucks for a console and then pay for the subscription? Fuck off.

[@KingTraut]

True and make the console irrelevant, completely killing there business

[@spaceyoghurt3401]

It's also the argument that makes them look like absolute clowns. No one will take it seriously when it comes from the biggest money hatter of third party games in the industry. I think it's good that Playstation still gets access to Activision games going forward. But it would also be nice if Sony stopped being knobs that blocks third party games time and time again. If I were Xbox, I'd use CoD etc as leverage to get them to stop making those kinds of deals. Sony could use that money to get titles into Playstation + instead. That is something Playstation gamers would actually benefit from.

[@KingTraut]

@@spaceyoghurt3401 They look like pathetic lieing manipulators. It makes me want to boycott them tbh.

[@sufficientlyoldskool]

"...the offer fails to consider the impact on Playstation gamers." As if Jim Ryan has ever once considered his impact on Xbox gamers. The hypocrisy.

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

Microsoft should be like Ya I think well show playstation the same equal care you've shown xbox gamers...

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

The only gamers Ryan has actively sought to hurt more than Xbox players is PlayStation players

[@nightsprings6920]

As a multiplatform gamer this makes it difficult to be interested in the PS5. It’s shameful for a business to act this way. With their games coming to PC I think I’ll pass on a PS5 entirely. That offer was insanely good.

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

I skipped on ps5 cause sony just didnt make it sound appealing at all... weaker less features while also being more expensive just to game on...ya no thanks sony.

[@submissionmachine4349]

you people that bombard these tube creators with ur spam do any you realise what type hit blizzard took with Law suit s and there mistreatment of female employees mirsoft is going to have issues for years// and this creator was making a Video on the Fly ever hear of ANTI-TRUST ever hear of MONOPOLIZING is illegal ya think there's going to be turbulance????

[@combatcarl]

I took Jim Ryan's comment as either an attempt to grease the UK regulators wheels, or as a demand to Phil to sweeten the pot, it kind of shows that the statement is poorly worded because we don't know exactly what Jim Ryan is wanting from this statement. I will say though if I was a Playstation Developer I'd be feeling somewhat disrespected, knowing that I'm at the top of my industry making killer games but my boss is more or less whining publicly saying that they need this third party publisher for this one generic military fps.

[@daRealB-Rex]

that’s what i’m saying! Why would you disrespect your own IP like that?

[@seanmarquis2216]

Hasn't Sony paid to keep COD content off Xbox for years? It is laughable when Ryan claims to care about gamers after the stuff he has pulled.

[@diablomozart]

he doesn't care about all gamers, only playstation gamers, the hypocrisy comes from him thinking ms is supposed to somehow preserve the status quo and worry about ps gamers as well

[@seanmarquis2216]

​@@diablomozart I am not seeing a lot of evidence they even care about PlayStation gamers at this point.

[@daviddamasceno6063]

Sony: We have exclusives! Xbox: We have exclusives! Sony: Hey, that's illegal!

[@richbunnell7426]

OMG! Hilarious, but so true!

[@angcil88]

Xbox : always has been! Now take this fuck you money!! (Acquired Zenimax) Sony : you fucking hypocrite!!!! Xbox : and I'm proud of it, now take another fuck you money!! (Acquiring Activision Blizzard) Sony : YOU F*CKING F*CK!!!!!!! Xbox : YE WE LOVE TO F*CK YE!! (Buys Sony)

[@kthebarbarian8223]

*Sony: We have award winning, GOTY exclusives built from internal studios over the past 28 years. MS: We can't compete with that. We'll just buy up several 3rd party publishers who built stable franchises and pass them off as our own. 😎 MS fanboys: SONY is anti-consumer and scared for pointing out that these are anti-consumer, anti-competitive, and monopolistic practices. We don't care though, because it's our favorite box! 🥴 There I fixed it for you. 😂

[@dusermiginte4647]

@@kthebarbarian8223 lol, what? You really dont know business and competing huh? Xbox and Microsoft also has many games for example Halo and MsFs. Get you shit/facts together..

[@kthebarbarian8223]

@@dusermiginte4647 What you're explaining is corporatism/ Monopolistic practices, not capitalism/ competitive market. If the market leader or a corporation with insane levels of capital can simply buy up ALL of it's competition to edge the market in it's favor, then there won't be a "FREE" market. Granted it's been a long time since we've have a true capitalist country, but the point still remains. So no, that's not how business should work. McDonald's shouldn't get to buy Burger King, and Wendy's then say it's being "competitive. That's the opposite of competitive. Are you really still pretending that HALO is as popular as it once was, or even as good as it was under BUNGIE? 🤔 The game is all but dead at this point, and the studio has massive internal issues. And you can't be serious about MSFS... Since when are console gamers suddenly interested in a Flight Sim? 🤔 I've been playing MS Flight Sims on PC since 1999, not once did I hear console gamers talk about it. Why are you guys suddenly pretending it's a title on the level of Gears of War, Last of Us, God of War, or Elden Ring? MS's own stats prove that you guys aren't playing the game. Why lie 🤥. 😭

[@jessep5280]

Jim didn't even articulate what exactly they want from Microsoft. It's just _"we disagree!"_

[@MrHeretrix]

“The offer fails to consider the impact on Playstation gamers” Sorta like that 70 dollar pricetag on new games. This is some really dumb shit.

[@mattmanley7118]

Sony has had final fantasy seven remake exclusive for over three years what’s the problem Sony? Crying because your competition does the exact same crap you do?

[@XXMetallica88XX]

Exactly

[@kill3rbyysight]

final fantasy not as big as call of duty

[@shadywaitamin2409]

@@kill3rbyysight Again. It does not matter. It is still shady shit to pull. Too bad sony doesn't has the money MS has. So let the one with the money do the talking and stop being a sore looser. Take your L and start walking outta here.

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

@@kill3rbyysight Yeah only thing that can maybe compare Is GTA , FF7 was never multiplatform originally It was always a Playstation exclusive unlike COD. It did for Sony what Halo did for Xbox , It's synonymous with Playstation , even though In Sony's case PS1 had so many great games that It would've won 5th gen anyway without It , MGS and a few other games were just as defining for helping Playstation's brand back then as FF7 was. Sony Is still being a whiny hypocrite but yeah COD's power and popularity Is the tip of the spear , It's still fair what Microsoft Is doing but there's really no comparison with anything Sony has ever bought or made exclusive , Activision/Blizzard Is just a different beast of an acquisition. People know Sony will still keep a healthy lead anyway , 1 game alone can never turn the tide Idc what IP It Is. Sony has been successful due to *multiple* great exclusives that come on a fairly consistent basis , and that's what Microsoft Is gonna have to start doing at some point and fixing their management and how all their studios roll things out more efficiently.

[@cristiangomez4537]

@@fawkkyutuu8851 your argument is irrelevant u can't treat someone unfair and then get mad that they did something bigger in response and say hey ur wrong yeah I did 100 things to u but urs is bigger then anything I ever done its just stupid 2nd it changes the tide alot cod is there number 1 selling game it sells consoles because they have promotional rights and they use it to fund other games it would be a major blow

[@S1ngh86]

I was actually thinking of buying a PS at some point but their crying is just embarassing. I will stick with my XSX.

[@Jayhawker2000]

Sony has set themselves up so that, if this deal does go through, it is a HUGE hit to their brand. Why? Because they essentially keep telling us that if MS owns Activision, PlayStation will be hopelessly inferior to Xbox and risk going out of business.

[@Sand_1995]

The deal will never go through. The UK will never let it pass. not after it has blocked Nvidia's arm acquisition which was a much lesser deal for $40 B

[@VGVindaloo]

@@Sand_1995 It's not about the amount of money payed, but about the impact on the market. ARM powers Android, which holds about 70% of the mobile market plus an even higher market share on TVs and set top boxes and that deal would have moved Nvidia much closer to a monopoly. Activision in gaming is only a tiny shift in market share compared to that.

[@yazzamx6380]

@@Sand_1995 - You said "The deal will never go through. The UK will never let it pass." I'm not a business expert but I don't believe that's the current situation my friend. Arm is a British company, therefore the UK can block acquisitions of British companies. However Microsoft and Activision are US companies and so there's nothing other countries like the UK can do to stop Microsoft buying Activision. Instead, the UK's CMA have raised concerns for further investigation, where it's unlikely their concerns will be justified but if they are then... the CMA will work with MS, Activision and Sony to come to an agreement that satisfies all involved for the UK market, while the rest of the world goes ahead as normal. That's my understanding, limited as it is in this area :-)

[@vullord666]

Exactly. Sony is making a mountain out of a mole hill and it's gonna erupt and burn them in the end. Realistically the deal couldn't harm their market share that much even if ALL Activision Blizzard properties became exclusive to Xbox consoles. PS as a platform would still probably dominate over Xbox in the console space and do so for years giving them plenty of time to compete and offer enough to keep most of their users happy. Even then most gamers would just play COD on PC or buy a series S and still game on PS. But now this is going to hurt the stability of their brand bad. They keep acting like it's the end of the world if the deal goes through. That's what's going to make their investors worry and falter when it does. That's what's going to make more gamers look at how much better they'll be treated as customers by Microsoft (in terms of services and value). That's what's making people question Sony's current dominance. Microsoft isn't doing it. Sony's making themselves look VERY fragile.

[@Jayhawker2000]

@@Sand_1995 It's not about the dollar amount. It's about whether or not it will weaken competition. Regarding the console market, the deal would obviously strengthen competition.

[@tinobrown1780]

I don’t feel like enough emphasis is put on how good this deal would be to us as the actual gamers. Having all these Activision/Blizzard games in Game Pass day one for a low monthly price is a good thing for us. What Microsoft is trying to do with Game Pass is not appreciated enough imo. Once this deal goes through, and all the other big 1st party games start releasing into GP day one, it’s gonna be an incredible value to gamers. We’re the winners here. They’re gonna be adding huge AAA games into GP at a low monthly cost, and Sony is cock blocking 😤.

[@Sand_1995]

The deal will never go through. The UK has show intent that it will never let it pass

[@vullord666]

@@Sand_1995 Except that's not how regulation works. Unfortunately they don't tell you no, they tell you what needs to change which you can argue against back and forth near endlessly. The only actual negative outcomes would be Microsoft and Activision Blizzard changing the deal to better comply with concerns (it could even be something like they can't actually do anything with Blizzard in terms of exclusives or have to split them up somehow). Or if Microsoft and Activision Blizzard themselves stop the deal because they think it's become too expensive/lengthy

[@vullord666]

The biggest wins would be the change in leadership. I feel like its been forgetton, but the workers just want change seeing Activision Blizzard as having predatory leadership (which is true) with movements to improve things being shut down and slow. Phil Spencer has expressed being more open in improving the work culture. It's honestly up in the air if he does improve things, but anything is better than them staying as is, which the current leadership will maintain. The biggest thing for gamers as well is the freeing up of the IP and devs. Phil Spencer has already expressed stopping the yearly COD games and wanting to revisit IP Activision Blizzard killed for COD. Honestly none of these games can go on Gamepass for all I care. They just NEED new leadership because Activision Blizzard as is is an empty shell

[@InguesMarduk]

Facts

[@mattmanley7118]

Jim Ryan is a crybaby plain and simple

[@PhinneusPrune]

If I were Phil Spencer. I would apologize and say, "I sent the wrong contract". And then send a different contract to Sony with only 2 years on non exclusivity.

[@paulibabba5566]

If I was a developer at Sony I feel some kind of way about the boss crying over a third party game like this

[@kill3rbyysight]

xbot brains 👌🤣

[@smturner68]

even david Jaffe had that take. that he is not displaying confidence in his teams to compete. the xbox brains comment to this concept shows how limited yours is.

[@dusermiginte4647]

@@kill3rbyysight Grow up or let you parents make your arguments for you.. Good luck. =)

[@kill3rbyysight]

@Duser Miginte same to u bruh 😉

[@dusermiginte4647]

@@kill3rbyysight thank you for proving my point.

[@miguel70178]

so, Ms offers 3 years of call of duty, what is sony offering?

[@bigkabuto]

Exactly this? Offer to let us have FF7R and the future titles and/or Spidey. I truly wish Xbox would use it as leverage. And maybe they did, but Sony refused.

[@mgpdevil]

3 years on top of the 3 already in contract

[@deeplaysgaming4754]

i know right , thay have minecraft on nintendo and ps, also the outer worlds by obsidian and they'll keep cod multiplat, yet sony is moaning? meanwhile streetfighter 5 exclusive, FF, and spiderman.

[@ari.nogueira]

Jim had a bad move IMO, they're betting on this acquisition to get void, it won't happen and MS now can simply let the 'ink dry' in these two years current contract and forget about the previous offer Sony declined... We'll see...

[@majorpeepo]

Phil knew something like this is gonna happen that man doesn't strike me as dumb

[@dannystaten5701]

Sony really doesn’t want COD on game pass. They know that will hurt their bottom line, but they don’t want to say that and acknowledge the power game pass will have when this deal goes through.

[@florisbackx1744]

Touché

[@darkstarmedia]

Really just shows they care more about a 3rd party game more than any of their exclusives.

[@guitarspud1723]

It's been that way since ps1.

[@gorgan4714]

I pray that the regulators are able to step back and see PS's actions and how hypocritical they are. I worry that they will get tunnel vision and ignore the state of the marketplace.

[@Sand_1995]

Regulators don't care about the actions of other companies. Even if Sony acts hypocritical they won't let a massive deal like this pass. The UK wants to flex its regulatory muscle and will block this deal to show its power.

[@james-xf1ox]

@@Sand_1995 😂

[@mla7695]

Phil basically said....look we'll let you keep CoD on your platform the rest of this gen, next gen say bye bye. lol

[@Johntheninja100]

Exactly.

[@samjackson5859]

He's not worried about gamers. He's worried about market share. He screws over gamers regularly.

[@andrewholloway8518]

Can we all admit that Sony has been the villain the whole time... like point, to anything they have done that is for the "gamer" like game pass letting, which let my dad get back into it (cost and him being 70 ahah).. but like really ... all they have done since they created their console is make moves for themselves.. yes ... they all do it.. but sony is just crying wolf over and over again.. and their fans (some of the worst being IGN people) just say yes ... perfect...

[@lordxboss5700]

Sony just looking at this deal and thinking what they would do in that position and projecting that onto Xbox when Xbox has been overly nice about the deal regarding exclusivity 🤯

[@lordxboss5700]

@jayanth rao 3yrs is to much anyway Xbox should just fulfill the existing agreement then decide to do whatever they feel like at that time🤷🏼‍♂️Don’t offer any deals past what’s already on the table. Lying Crying Jim Ryan didn’t mention Xbox already offered 3yrs past their existing agreement 😭

[@emhq583]

No the Villain is Activision Blizzard. Greaseball Bobby Kotick is selling for a reason

[@dusermiginte4647]

@jayanth rao its 2 cod games + 3 more years after that..........

[@dusermiginte4647]

@jayanth rao Phil is awesone to the comunity and the players.. Have fun paying more and more for sony stuff..

[@Donald_Allan]

You would think with all of the studios that Sony owns that surely they could make their own Call of Duty style game which would go on to be a hit. They have the teams and the talent that are more than capable of being able to deliver a high quality FPS game. Why don't they look at reviving the killzone and resistance franchises and get one of their teams (with some support and input from Bungie) to work on an FPS.

[@ravee-eh4dd]

Exactly they have recourse to make it happen it’s not the end of the world

[@LOTW1]

Sony doesn't like to support multiplayer games. Every game from their past that had multiplayer capabilities it ends up closing the servers or losing player base due to lack of support. As a matter of fact! Even some of their single player exclusives look like games that should have been coop games. Ex: The Last of Us, God of War, and Uncharted. In those games you always have an NPC following you around. Why not make the game coop when there is a companion already in the story? Because they don't like to support and invest in multiplayer. Sony prefers to have another to take over the development and support burden of the game while Sony reaps the PS store sales revenue. They purchased Bungie to let Bungie continue to do whatever Bungie wants because Sony doesn't want to develop and support a multiplayer game of their own. They want Bungie to keep making Destiny content and get a piece of the revenue. It all seemed like smart business thinking until Microsoft came and took their biggest cash cow.

[@RavagHer]

thats too much work. sony wants to take it easy and stay number 1. why compete when u can just be petty

[@Uptown2525]

Playstation was never a multiplayer platform they cater to single player. The last sony attempt to a full on multiplayer was killzone. That didn't sell to well either.

[@glehran5586]

They would have to hire 3,000 developers.

[@alonzor557]

Have a taste of your own medicine Sony

[@Kapono5150]

My mom always told me, life isnt fair. Deal with it

[@tomfromtoonami3269]

I wonder if Ryan broke some kind of NDA by throwing specifics out about the agreement MS. Might be why we haven't heard a rebuttal from MS yet.

[@billygrant9147]

I'm sorry couldn't even finish listening to the statement. Did Jim consider the impact his deal would have on Xbox gamers when he locked up final fantasy 7 remake? Final fantasy has been on Xbox for a decade up to that point. What about ff16? Spiderman games had been on Xbox for well over a decade before he made that exclusive as well. Xbox is buying the IP just like how Sony bought the licensing rights to spiderman and just how they paid for exclusively for FF. They don't own you or your customers anything. If I'm forced to play spiderman on playstation they can buy an Xbox for CoD. Xbox gave that clown what would end up being 6 years of CoD for your gamers and he declined. Because he doesn't care about his gamers, he wants to block the deal so he can maintain control. Screw that guy.

[@remedy731]

It's funny how IGN was so quick to put this story out about Jim Ryan calling out Microsoft, but never said a word when Microsoft called out Sony on their BS a few weeks back

[@100_American_Bison]

If Sony is so worried about losing Call of duty then they better start negotiating for a longer contract. Sony this is called competition and you start getting used to it as it will be just Xbox, but plenty of other competitor will start appearing.

[@sumomaster5585]

What can they offer Xbox though?

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

@@sumomaster5585 for me I would tell sony...cod will be on playstation every year you dont have timed exclusives or pay to block games from gamepass.

[@sumomaster5585]

@@De1usionsofGrandeur I see what you mean though Xbox also pulls that BS. In addition, I would push for free cross play. Honestly though, I never understood how could PS ever outbid Xbox to secure those deals in the 1st place

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

@@sumomaster5585 cause it's not a biding most likely they go to sony first since they are the market leader Microsofts not even in the room. If things like this actually worked like bids Microsoft would win most of the time. As for Microsoft doing the same thing.. what big franchise they dont own are they holding from playstation. So far playstation has an exclusive spider man, wolverine, a few final fantasy games. Even got extra content in the up coming harry Potter game those are all franchises they dont own. So on the Microsoft side what big name franchises do they not own that they are holding from playstation...

[@sumomaster5585]

@@De1usionsofGrandeur what’s preventing Xbox from going to the studio’s first? Studios ultimately care about money. If Xbox pays them their dues they would happily accept

[@doctorsilva1345]

My main platform is PS and I am sick and tired of this topic already. I don't know why Sony is salty about this at all. CoD passed it's peak years ago. I genuinely don't care about Activision/Blizzard games. MS needs to get their customers trust back and is using money to do so and that's fine by me. Like people saying "Xbox is buying exclusives and not making them in house" blah blah blah. CoD will be multiplatform for this whole gen at least and MS will most likely make it Xbox exclusive from next gen forward maybe even with all their Activision/Blizzard/Bethesda games. Sony needs to wake the hell up and stop being anti consumer before it's too late for them.

[@felipesantos-er4kk]

Bethesda games are exclusives at least

[@sergiodiaz2725]

Bethesda games are already exclusive, Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo were tied in one of PlayStation’s draconian deals.

[@Magguscaster]

Jim Ryan is literally poking holes & sinking the ship at lightning speed. Reminds me a lot of Don Matterick.

[@davidmylchreest3306]

There was a report earlier in the year that showed that Sony made a lot of money off the back end of Call Of Duty multiplayer. Like a ridiculous amount of money. With their marketing deal on COD, a lot of COD players are on Playstation.

[@StevenvanderGraaf]

Sony’s Cry baby Jim Ryan forgets about Sony’s statements about how good the first party games are and they where in no worries about Game Pass. And their great platform all of a sudden crumbles down if a 3rd party game will be “free” to play on Game Pass

[@infitniterpg]

As fans of the Final Fantasy franchise (which nearly ALL the games are multi-platform), hearing Sony's stance on this is very frustrating...

[@joedigregorio2278]

Does he think about the impact on Xbox gamers when he pays to keep games off Xbox?? What a tool

[@kevinlachance669]

I have a feeling they say they will put these on anything where Gamepass is which they will try to get those passes to other platforms. I think they can also say COD is now only one developer and not a rotation. I am willing to be they form another FPS that isn't COD that will be only for Xbox and PC. I doubt we continue to get COD every year and rotating those creators. One of them at least will switch to a different shooter for Xbox which is smart. What if they don't make another COD again and just make Duty of the Call every year lol. It's a name that but they could just do that and it's a new franchise.

[@paulibabba5566]

They're just going to make the next Call of Duty in 4 years instead of every other year like they had planned oh well sorry Sony

[@kevinlachance669]

@@paulibabba5566 That too, I doubt they completely leave COD alone. I wonder what Blizzard is having them do right now and what's in the work for all the games. I imagine the games rhat are already planned can't be scraped.

[@deeplaysgaming4754]

they can keep all new games on ps whilst xbox gamepass get those and remastered older cod games or at least access to all cod games on gamepass!

[@paulibabba5566]

@@deeplaysgaming4754 I think they're going to slow the amount of releases of Call of Duty anyway so Sony is basically crying about three games over 6 years

[@Blackmachismoo]

And? Sony just has to deal with it

[@CaptainB1994]

Oh and let's not forget that Activision-Blizzard ASKED to be bought by Microsoft, Microsoft didn't go to AB, AB went to Microsoft.

[@diablomozart]

after going to other companies first no less

[@CaptainB1994]

@@diablomozart of course. Facebook was one of them if I remember and turned them down.

[@tempestofruin]

Still remember the Borealas sniper in destiny 2 that was Ps exclusive for at least a year Also cutting out cod from ps would cut out a huge market, it would be foolish. Sony is just crying wolf now with Cid because the future new games could definitely go exclusive

[@geezee194life2]

Sony has a global icon in Spiderman but did Sony consider the impact on xbox gamers not being able to play that game..

[@garfunkle5447]

Sony is going to have to adapt as Xbox did during the XB1 era. Also, Nintendo is fine not having CoD

[@Magguscaster]

From the sounds of it, Phil also wants to bring CoD to Nintendo even if it's on cloud gaming. Sony always goes ape shit anything benefits Nintendo.

[@Kretenn]

They keep saying MS did same thing in x360 days with COD... umh MS exclusivity was 30-90 days and devs were allowed to acknowledge that it’ll come to PS.... Sony exclusivity is pretty much lifetime of the game as the cycle is 1 year between games and no mention of xbox allowed

[@x-coin0420]

Lol what's funny is that xbox said they are not even close to being done buying up more stuff after this deal lol

[@keshonhend2047]

Sony just mad they got outbid. Let’s be real here.

[@SeanShank87]

Imagine being mad at a company for doing the same thing you've been doing since the beginning

[@brianharley6452]

PlayStation moaning but keeping games off Xbox 😂😂 can’t make it up 😂😂😂

[@naharick]

The basic problem for Sony is that even if COD were to remain multiplatform, if, or a matter of when it goes on GamePass, the revenue cut will be significant. You've essentially reduced the sales to the die-hard of the die-hard. So even it games from the Activision deal were to be remain multiplatform in perpetuity, why pay Sony over market value to play. And the cross play gets extra spicy because to Microsoft it wouldn't be an issue but for Sony its a realistic fear of what coming down the road. The real worry Sony should have is when the series S drops in price by 50 to 100 dollars, there ultimate nightmare scenario along with GPU prices coming back to availability and affordability. Deal goes thru no matter what.

[@343Epsilon]

that would be insane. even right now at $300 the price-to-performance is insane. Drop it another $100 and you're in range of switch lite. its a no brainer

[@airforcex9412]

I have 2 PS5s at home. This is embarrassing from Sony. Their whole thing is exclusivity. This is absolutely ridiculous and bizarre.

[@robertbowser328]

I honestly can’t wait to play Cod through GamePass. I still want to play Cold War and vanguard campaigns not the multiplayer.

[@xNightHawk32]

Sony’s acting like a spoiled child. All Sony really cares about is money. They act like they care about the gamer… But that couldn’t be further from the truth. They’re charging a premium $70 which is $10 more then their competitor Xbox. They’ve been buying up 3rd party exclusives for years keeping 3rd party games from appearing on Xbox. If you ask me, Sony should be counting their lucky stars. Three years of COD is more then generous. When was the last time PlayStation has done anything for Xbox? I can’t think of a single time PlayStation has done Xbox a single favor in the last 20 years. I don’t even think they’ve given Xbox a single praise. At the end of the day PlayStation doesn’t care about their gamers, at least not in the way you would think. If they truly cared about their gamers they wouldn’t charge them $70 for their games. They wouldn’t have increased the price of their console in every market except USA. They wouldn’t lie to their gamers, ie: we believe in generations, this game is only possible on PS5 etc. They wouldn’t ban cross platform play, they would allow their gamers to play with everyone. I mean if you really look at it, all they care about is money. Money, money and more money. Oh and how can we stick it to the other guy… I’m sure they laugh pretty hard every time they’ve done it in the last 20 years. So let’s not beat around the bush Jim Ryan😂 Great episode Destin 🔥 Cheers 🍻

[@dannypassion]

I was waiting for this 🤣🤣 it has begun, finish this fight.

[@dusermiginte4647]

"Finish him!" 😄

[@Kretenn]

Hoeg said exact opposite about “consent decree” maximum allowed under the law is 10 years, in perpetuity is what Hoeg said would never happen.... either way regulators have 0 legal standing to request games remain multiplat... they can demand it, but would lose in court

[@nohebanful]

He's getting upset because he can't control Microsofts money. He's trying to tell Phil how/what to negotiate with Phil's own Microsoft money and that's sad and ridiculous.

[@yunior12]

This is why I Dislike Sony Playstation so much.

[@codyohh]

What would Sony do if Microsoft decides not to make a COD game every year ? Microsoft would not be obligated to pump them out every year when the acquire Activision right ?

[@diablomozart]

accd to ms, if the deal goes through, cod would not be a yearly release

[@LiamCuthbert]

funny how when sony gobbled up a deal for final fantasy they didn't "allow xbox to have it after a timed window" they just keep it purely exclusive, but now are crying when xbox do the same thing with a franchise and still offer 3 years of support of said franchise on playstation. sony need to realize that microsoft is winning hard right now because they are being pro consumer in all avenues while also competing hard through huge investment into thier product and services, the customer base grows, and in turn xbox makes profit so both microsoft and consumers win. its the perfect strategy. sony is going down that greedy corporate route and its starting to backfire on them.

[@fv7048]

To be honest. I dont really care about cod in xbox or PS as i prefer to play them on PC.

[@bigjoefixit]

Sony don't like when people play the same games as them only better. Don't see Microsoft complaining at all the backroom deals sony makes to keep games off of xbox.

[@conkersquirrel8872]

Jim Ryan: "We're worried about our gamers". Jim Ryan: "Increase the mf price of the mf PS5". Jim Ryan: "We believe in generations". Jim Ryan: 'Port that $#@*!"

[@killeromen7259]

Nice video Destin! Viewing the full picture to better digest is always good. I honestly think regulators overstep there boundaries in these acquisitions...ultimately we are talking about entertainment industry. New IPs and studios can be made and Sony has the option to compete. just my opinion

[@ApeOfMyIdeal]

Basically what Jim wants is for Xbox to treat PlayStation like it owes them Call of Duty ad infinitum so Sony won't lose revenue and become less attractive to investors. Why does he feel entitled to any IP, let alone one his rival is wanting to buy? Which is hilariously hypocritical, but then most of what Sony does these days is. Xbox should trade access to Sony IP for GamePass in return for Call of Duty. As long as Sony wants CoD, Xbox gets whatever it wants from Sony. Fair's fair right? Sony have been fat and complacent too long at the top of the Gaming food chain. This is fear masquerading as arrogance, nothing more.

[@TheDeanFilez]

That very first intro line LOL so true...

[@runninginthe90s75]

Jim Cucky Ryan has a point to be mad about it, he don't want PS to only have next COD for 3 years but he want next year COD will be fully Xbox exclusive.

[@BillNyeGuy]

Xbox should use this deal to make sure PlayStation keeps Destiny on Xbox in perpetuity and make sure FF7 Remake and FF16 come to Xbox eventually. Even FF14 would be nice. This “deal” shouldn’t be one sided.

[@osmancardona3613]

Good point

[@burnoutrevenge64]

Give them warzone and that should shut them up for 6 months lol

[@attemptityourself5662]

I don't think they'd ever want to take COD exclusive. Any year MS can claim they made billions off of PS store purchases is a good year in Phil's book.

[@diablomozart]

more to it than what's on the surface...we don't know what kind of deals, kickbacks on mp, cross play, etc that sony had with activision...i think there's more to it than straight sales as ps was marketed as "the place to play cod" for quite a few years now

[@MARxBLADE01]

@@diablomozart Its definitely about more then just sales. The marketing alone with the Ps brand is massive.

[@DetroitsReaper]

They think they are so above Xbox and it's gamers they deserve everything while we deserve nothing it's crazy delusional

[@alfredooverman1678]

It’s doesn’t matter if they make it stay on PlayStation. All Microsoft would have to do is say we want 50% of the profits from sales if you want it on your platform. Then it would be on Sony if they want to give up that money to keep it on their platform for the good of the players. Let’s see if they really care about their customers at that point. I support all the current platforms, so not a fanboy of any platform. I just like gaming. At the end of the day, these are businesses and they want our money. They don’t want to share with another company if they don’t have to!

[@Gygesdcom]

What's a better selling point than games being on all platforms for $70 and free on gamepass. If I were MS I would put all my games on Sony and never put them on sale. Have them be $70 each title in perpetuity. Gamepass will start to look really good about the third title you buy at that price. Then when you consider not needing a console to play on gamepass, people could just get the gamepass cloud and those customers are now MS customers.

[@arklight3602]

I love how Jim Ryan acts like this is for the ps community. Meanwhile charging an extra 10.00 per game, hiking prices of consoles and more scummy moves. This is all about how fat Jimmy can make his pockets. Losing CoD would surely hurt his pockets.

[@mastercheif0124]

I think Jim Ryan said this publicly because he's hoping it might further sway the UK's CMA decision since their argument was surrounding exclusivity. I know the CMA would have had insight into this information regardless but it being public knowledge that it may eventually become exclusive is different. Jim knows himself how hypocritical he's being, I don't think he is saying it for Playstation Gamers.

[@turismofoegaming8806]

What it really boils down to is “Sony not wanting to have to write Microsoft a check every single month!!”

[@moogiesboy]

Sony arent worried about exclusivity. Phil been clear on that. They dont want to see call of duty on gamepass, as opposed to 70 on ps5. But they dont have legal ground there. Edit: and imagine if xbox chooses to charge extra for the hardened edition, but include that version as a gp ultimate perk? Savage.

[@luisgonzalezsandoval7429]

Exclusives or not, doesn't really matter to me. All I want is gamepass to keep growing, getting all the ABK's IP on gamepass is awesome even better if we get available day one for the new games they roll out🤟

[@drumnbassdan]

Sony are hypocrites, they have had exclusive deals with so many studios its a joke.

[@abdel1143]

I was waiting hours for this video!