There's a recent designer diary up on BGG that goes into the background of the choices made, including the graphical look. It's a good read.
@wishmeheaven Жыл бұрын
But what will save you from a bad roll..?
@Penceos2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this one - in contrast to some of the comments, I've seen a lot of variability not just from the set-ups, but from the initial fate die roll sending the game in different directions that you wouldn't necessarily see from the opening turns in a game of Dominion. We've sat down to play this four times, but every time we end up playing 3, 4, 5 games in a row.
@SILVERF0X137 ай бұрын
Sounds like this is a perfect choice for me. I really love the dice upgrading of Dice Forge and was looking for a game with that mechanic that had a little more to it (and that lasts a little longer)
@jimgrant90812 жыл бұрын
It's great to hear the different opinions and perceptions! I'm very happy to see all these 4 Square reviews.
@benseipert25782 жыл бұрын
Having just played this a couple times yesterday, I was pleasantly surprised. There was fun decisions to be made and the game arc creates fantastic tension. And in regards to the cost, I find the content and variability comparable to dominion plus an expansion or two, which would be a similar price point (not to mention I don’t need to buy card sleeves for this)
@gregbroxterman2 жыл бұрын
Another great vid that really emphasizes the strengths of the 4squares format.. i've been loving this game, and getting mixed reviews from people I've played with.. but pretty much all the strengths and weaknesses are well represented here! This game can end up being a hard hit or hard miss for many, but has the solid foundation that many will respect at least.. thus the higher minimum rating here. great stuff.
@mrbastos2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to playing this one. Getting everything sorted and into trays is taking me a while.
@diggidydiggidy2 жыл бұрын
Wendy, love your opinions in these reviews, especially as a counterpoint to the others. Keep up the excellent work.
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
great review guys!! so excited for more people to play this
@jeremyfrost31272 жыл бұрын
It’s a phenomenal game. The fact that the game can end three ways is brilliant precisely because players have agency over those things and it allows the game to shape radically different experiences for the players depending on what they choose to do strategically. This is not just a “dice game”. New players seem to universally undervalue the “set a die” token: It’s $4 and you can literally just force your combo to happen on the next turn. Like all of Tom Lehman’s games, the best strategy will win 99% of the time, despite the fact that it’s dice. The price is definitely high… but this is a game that can easily get played hundreds of times with so much variability so the price/play is actually very low.
@elqord.11182 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the game creates a very interesting decision space. Yes, it allows you to do so many things but it all feels rather samey.
@siejaiz2 жыл бұрын
It's good but I don't think it touches RtfG or Dominion for me
@jeremyfrost31272 жыл бұрын
@@elqord.1118 you haven't played many games of it then. The 5 tiles selected for each game combined with the 5 basic faces and the three end-game conditions make a huge decision space every game.
@jeremyfrost31272 жыл бұрын
@@siejaiz Fair. Those are titans of the industry. Dice Realms to me is an equivalent design, though. Maybe better than Dominion even because of the three end-game conditions.
@KMReviews2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see this custom dice mechanic added to other games. A Cubitos style game where you can buy more dice or upgrade the dice. Or dice thrones where you could upgrade your dice to be better at attacking. Etc.
@notsaved2 жыл бұрын
try Roll for the Galaxy with the Rivalry expansions
@alexandrevaz-filion7832 жыл бұрын
Dice forge.
@adamholt53952 жыл бұрын
The price is the real deterrent for me for picking this one up. I like Dice Forge. I like the idea of swapping out faces on dice and upgrading them. However, $90 for a game that doesn't look that great isn't too appealing to me, atm.
@bonehead7972 жыл бұрын
The price is what's keeping me from getting it also.
@ericlosiewicz5192 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to know more about how this compares to Dice Forge with the expansion, as well as games like Dice Throne and Space Base. I realize Dice Forge is the most directly comparable due to the customizeable dice, but would be interested how this stacks up against other dice based engine building games.
@Gustave1542 жыл бұрын
The customizable dice is the only similarity between Dice Forge and Dice Realms. Simply put, Dice Realms is Dominion The Dice Game.
@paulnorthey67122 жыл бұрын
9.5 for the lively discussion. Wendy and Chris combination fantastic balance to Tom and Roy. this is Dice Tower at its best, lively, engaged informative talking about a great designer with enthusiasm and intelligence. Again Nice balance of views.
@stefan85ge2 жыл бұрын
The game sounds interesting. I am looking forward to test it. Could you say how long the game is?
@peterpan4442 жыл бұрын
30-45min if you don't have a heavy AP prone player.
@stefan85ge2 жыл бұрын
@@peterpan444 that sounds great and is a huge pro for me.
@RheaOfLief2 жыл бұрын
Is there a playlist with all the 4 Square reviews? The only one I can find has just 14 videos in it. I really like this format.
@bubblepipemedia3414 Жыл бұрын
I know it’s often said that “in dominion I buy a card I know I can use it” but that’s not true. There’s a limit on the cards you can play, so it might be that you draw that card at the same time as another card you bought and.. can’t play it. There’s also plenty of attack cards that force you to discard a card from the top of your deck or worse, return it, etc. other deck builders yea, they might be a guarantee. But if you keep referencing Dominion while saying that I just don’t know how accurate I feel it is. But I agree that it more true than not true. You will absolutely usually get to get to that card. It’s true in this game as well, but not without spending a resource.
@rabidpickle2 жыл бұрын
Price seems like it will be prohibitive for many. Game also seems quite light compared to how fiddly it will be. Thanks for the review!
@WillColton02 жыл бұрын
I don't think this game is really "light". Would you consider Dominion or Race for the Galaxy light? Just because it is quick and has randomness does not necessarily make it light imo.
@siejaiz2 жыл бұрын
It's not too fiddly, changing the dice faces is kinda fun
@CritsHappen2 жыл бұрын
I guess everyone has forgotten Rattlebones, which used these dice originally, also from Rio...
@XShrike02 жыл бұрын
Didn't Tom mention Rattlebones at the start?
@CritsHappen2 жыл бұрын
@@XShrike0 More so about the comments than the video itself :)
@XShrike02 жыл бұрын
Did I miss where they explained why you keep track of your rerolls "per turn"? Are you only allowed to do 10 upgrades per turn? Is it just a tally to see how many the dice give you and then you spend them?
@ericruhland726 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you are supposed to track the number of rerolls per turn. not sure what you mean by that. No limit to number of upgrades. It's just there to help keep track.
@masblas33792 жыл бұрын
Definitely another one I'm gonna need to try before I buy. Loved the look of the box, intriguing, mysterious, little worlds on the sides of a cube. Unfortunately, looking at the components, it was a complete let down. I'm definitely still intrigued but hopefully the game play will overcome my disappointment with the aesthetics.
@unlimitedrabbit2 жыл бұрын
Please do The 4 Squares Review Glen More II: Chronicles. 🥃
@Lordjunon2 жыл бұрын
What makes this different than dice forge outside having more than 2 dice?
@bjornspindel62492 жыл бұрын
It's ugly and has 'take that'
@nshaw12992 жыл бұрын
I'm at the 13 min. mark of the video and still waiting for 'Dice Forge' to even be mentioned... meanwhile, 'Comparing to Dominion' happened twice already. I'm wondering though if the dice face change mechanics is better.
@Penceos2 жыл бұрын
About 20 plays of Dice Realms (and 5 plays of Dice Forge) here. In Dice Realms you spend a lot of time and energy directly fussing around with your dice - how many dice you have, but also how many rerolls you have, whether you invest points into cross-grading to a different color of die face versus upgrading an existing one, etc. You end up with considerably more opportunities to modify your dice than you do in Dice Forge, and it's also possible to modify your dice in such a way that stalls your engine or just makes it mis-fire, which doesn't really happen in Dice Forge.
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
The dice in Dice Realms is literally the game unlike in Dice Forge where the dice is part of the game.
@nshaw12992 жыл бұрын
26:05 finally :-) Guys, if it's such an obvious question to be asked, just say at the beginning you'll mention 'Dice Forge' towards the end... it was like 26 minutes of 'Do you guys not remember the only well known game where you physically customize dice faces?'
@robinett742 жыл бұрын
I wonder if we will see some designer attempt to make the equivalent to what Thunderstone is to Dominion. A similar game, but more thematic with an exciting theme. Because this theme looks boring as heck! But the game seems very fun.
@Straddllw2 жыл бұрын
Well I for one prefer Dominion over Thunderstone. Also Hansa Teutonica, Concordia, Orleans etc … are some of my favourite games ever. This game looks really great and have great aesthetics for me.
@Gustave1542 жыл бұрын
Get AEG on this Thunderstone Quest is great
@booma_2 жыл бұрын
looks like roll for the galaxy 3rd expansion .
@dragonlance60272 жыл бұрын
What about durability of the dice faces?
@missitheachievementhuntres5605 ай бұрын
I don’t have played this one a ton but Rattlebones which uses the same dice I have played so much over the years since it’s release and I don’t have any problem with the durability of the dice.
@thefriendlessgamer85522 жыл бұрын
There was a travel dice game where the customizable faces first came from cant remember the name sadly. lego has done this as well and dice forge among others. I looked into it because I would not have been surprised if lego somehow owned the copyright some how for that mechanism when I was thinking of designing a game with it.
@jean-christopherioux35462 жыл бұрын
Dice forge is an obvious exemple that custom dice face can look good, even tho those dice seems to roll better
@ski69132 жыл бұрын
I really have to wonder if Tom or Roy would be as enthusiastic about this one if he had to shell out the $100+ from his own pocket. I think it’s really easy to praise a game just on its merits and apart from context, but I’d be interested to know if they think it’s *so* good that it’s worth spending 2-3 games’ worth of price.
@arcanevision12 жыл бұрын
They mention the price, but price is a very personal thing, what is expensive for one person isn't for another.
@NATOnova2 жыл бұрын
love hearing the diversity of opinions on 4 squares review's. would be great to hear even more people's opinions, like 6 or so, IMO
@RickKoeppen2 жыл бұрын
Dice Realms has been on my BGG wishlist for a while. I picked up the box in my FLGS and felt a certain way. I started watching this review, and continued to get that same feeling. The iconography, the look of the faces, it really does bother me. Dice Forge is one of my favorite games of all time, so that with some more variety here, I was really hyped for it. But the look, the iconography, I'm just not ready to pull the trigger yet. I'm not looking forward to explaining the die faces when I teach it. I'm not looking forward to learning all the faces myself, even. I think I'm going to stick with Dice Forge for a while.
@hewhoyawns3152 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel like it’s a real hit for this game that its competitor is dice forge. I have not played dice realms, so I’m only speaking about aesthetics here, but dice forge is just one of most slick, pretty, and elegant games I’ve ever seen. Dice realms already looks lackluster, but when you compare it to dice forge it just feels like there’s not a shred of inspiration or imagination in the design of this game.
@johnnovotny50742 жыл бұрын
Love the 4 Squares reviews!
@foyoGames2 жыл бұрын
D30 vs D20 Spindown Dice: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4rKfaOZdtyLj7c
@ski69132 жыл бұрын
I watched a full playthrough of this a little bit ago, and I was having a hard time articulating my fears about it, but I think you hit the nail on the head: it feels like a game that’s about 5 years too late. There are just too many other games where you roll dice, get stuff, and make upgrades (Space Base really stands out to me)…I just don’t need to spend $100+ on this game when I can get one that does the same thing and looks better for half the price.
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
Space Base doesn't have customizable dice though? I feel like a better comparison would be Dice Forge but even then Dice Realms has more dice and faces to play with. Not to mention it plays really fast!
@benjaminjohnson83772 жыл бұрын
No Wheat = Defeat #Catanlove
@soogymoogi2 жыл бұрын
Very cool idea and sounds fun but oh god, the iconography is so lackluster!! Idk if it's some kind of production limitation but it seems like they could've used a better graphic designer...
@ptlehmann2 жыл бұрын
It's a production limitation: 3 spot colors (including black) is all the printing technology can do. If I could do 4-color process colors, everything would look much different. However, the icons really do work smoothly in practice -- people roll 2-5 dice with all sorts of different faces and rarely have to look anything up after the first round or two of play.
@soogymoogi2 жыл бұрын
@@ptlehmann thanks for the insight! I would've made the icons look different myself but I am no graphic designer or publisher lol.
@carmanragatz2995 Жыл бұрын
I admit I haven’t played this game yet, but it doesn’t look enticing to me…not for $90!!! If this was only $30-$40, maybe. Otherwise, this looks like Dice Forge plus Dominion. Honestly, contrary to popular opinion, I actually don’t care for Dominion. There are many other deck, dice or bag building games out there that I would much rather play if I’m in the mood for that style of game. Since Dominion doesn’t excite me, the only other draw I see is the Dice Forge aspect of the game which is much cheaper (and I already own). So, if someone invited me to play and there was no other style of game being played that I prefer, then I might play it. Otherwise, this game does not look all that interesting to me. There are plenty of other games out there that I would much rather play and there is NO WAY I would drop that much money on this type of game!
@TheBrokenMeeple2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, not feeling it, ill try it if ill see it, but it does feel like it needed to release years ago both in mechanics and in looks. Literally squeaks out a seal of excellence purely based on half a mark from one person?
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
well playtesters were playing the game back in 2017 so there's something
@Calistake0472 жыл бұрын
I've owned Dice Forge for years and really enjoyed my time with it, although the sheer gameplay does ultimately come down to the gimmick of customizing dice. So now I'm gonna tread carefully before I get into another pop-that-face-out game just for the fun of it. Also I agree with Tom that this one looks postively dreadful. Cover's so pretty, and that's what we get in the box?
@sexagesimalian2 жыл бұрын
I found it amusing that 2 of their complaints against Dice Realms:(aesthetics and game end trigger) do not exist in Dice Forge (which looks very nice and has a fixed number of turns).
@thereal45792 жыл бұрын
If you add the expansion to Dice forge the system is pretty robust and modular. With that and the beautiful nature of the Dice Forge I am happy with staying with it over this game. Great video, great points. Appreciate the 4 square reviews.
@PalladiumOne2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I think I’ll stick to Quacks for my ‘random upgrades to show up’ vibes (which seems to be the exiting part for me here). It’s cheaper and more thematic. Great review, was curious about this game!
@keyboardcruiser17992 жыл бұрын
Having played both this and quacks, the decision space in quacks is basically nil in comparison to dice realms. Its not just about the upgrades, but also rerolls, tokens to buy, attacks to execute or defend against, dice to expand, etc. I understand where you are coming from, but random upgrades showing up is not a fair point to compare the two on. It's a bit of an apples and pears comparison, as there's a lot more luck mitigation and decision making in dice realms .
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
This is not a game of random luck. Yes you roll dice but there are lots of ways to mitigate luck like reroll tokens or even paying money to get the die face you are looking for. Once you get the engine rolling it gets really combo-ey fun!
@Footrot132 жыл бұрын
Not played yet but just on the rules explanation my brain started screaming- why can grain role over from round to round without spoiling but money is temporary?
@ptlehmann2 жыл бұрын
Grain is quite stable from 1 year to the next (that's why granaries work) while banks are just getting going in medieval times and coins weren't used that much. Coins represent the *flow* of goods.
@lufia222 жыл бұрын
This looks like a nightmare to put away. Seems like something I'd rather play on board game arena.
@niczaiser23412 жыл бұрын
I feel like Wendy is more expressive and interjective when Camilla is not on with her... They are both awesome, just interesting dynamics.
@BlimpMcGee2 жыл бұрын
Woah what an eyesore
@vascariz692 жыл бұрын
Would love them to team up with Awakened Realms for a deluxe version.
@siejaiz2 жыл бұрын
Don't know if it needs it... It would be like dominion with better art, not really the point as it is pretty themeless
@ArmadilloAl2 жыл бұрын
I was briefly interested, but I'm really not sure that "Dominion-adjacent, but three times the price of Dominion" is the pitch that's going to get me to buy a game.
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
Well i would see the amount of content in the box is like buying Dominion with at least 2 expansions. And with customizable dice!
@boardgameasmr8682 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this one. I really do think a truly great game can be made with this mechanism, but I guess that wait continues.
@jhowd782 жыл бұрын
I wish I liked this one as much as they did. Played it a good 5 times or more. 130$ later, it was a miss unfortunately. Wish I was at the table to discuss. Definitely some positives in there. Liked the idea which is why I spent the money.
@BenBoersma2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an interesting game, but the visuals make it look like a prototype and really turn me off. When Dice Forge's dice faces look so much more engaging, there was really no excuse to make it look this spartan. It might be an amazing game, but the visuals will sadly hold it back in a big way. :(
@keyboardcruiser17992 жыл бұрын
The visuals actually help a lot to understand what is happening at a glance. You can see the tiles of the game for the art corresponding to the die. That art is really quite good, but it isnt covered in this review. Check Rahdo's thoughts on it.
@BenBoersma2 жыл бұрын
@@keyboardcruiser1799 while I agree that it is very easy to follow what is going on with the die faces, you can also with dice Forge. I suppose I'm suggesting that the clarity could largely be kept whilst still improving the appearance.
@ptlehmann2 жыл бұрын
@@BenBoersma Unfortunately, the technical limits of the dice manufacturer was 3 spot colors, including black. So, I went for clarity, requiring little lookup.
@BenBoersma2 жыл бұрын
@@ptlehmann that makes sense and is logical under those circumstances. It is still a shame, but I understand the decision now
@rfcesq54742 жыл бұрын
I watched this whole review, and I have scant idea what the game is about. Are you a king? A farmer? There’s combat and wheat is what I got. Roy said there was no theme, but was there even an attempt at one?
@siejaiz2 жыл бұрын
Probably not... Same theme as Dominion, you have a kingdom and make choices
@ptlehmann2 жыл бұрын
I discuss the setting and theme in some detail in my designer preview on BGG. But, theme is one of those words that people use in many different ways to mean many different things. One person's theme that is well integrated with mechanics is another person's "pasted on theme". YMMV.
@johnnovotny50742 жыл бұрын
You should do a 4 Squares with Sam Healy and Eric Summerer through a Zoom call.
@jasonsmith11332 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t seem that fun to me but I would try it to be proven wrong.
@chrisfong89292 жыл бұрын
This graphic design is very off putting. It looks like the icons were designed by a mathematician instead of an artist. Rio Grande is targeting a specific audience which I am just not in.
@JosephFlemming2 жыл бұрын
Wow the box art is in serious incongruence to the basic and stark dice and symbols! Not enthused about that.
@aarondowning5791 Жыл бұрын
Not worth the cost.
@retroarcadefan2 жыл бұрын
Game looks dreadfully dull. Hope to find someone else that has it to see if the gameplay can overcome this. Also hoping that the sweet spot isn't two players.
@Penceos2 жыл бұрын
Gameplay is mostly simultaneous, with the exception of attack die faces. In setups with no attacks, we've found 2p games are just as quick as multiplayer games. In the video, Tom mentions 20% of the setup tiles have attack die faces and he'd prefer to play with one at most - 5/35 of the tiles in the bag are attack tiles, and the setup rules already enforce a maximum of one per game (and of course you can just leave them out) Edit: max 2 per game with some specific limitations, I just re-read the setup rules more carefully!
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
Its really fine to play this with more players. Just don't play with the attack tiles as it will slow down the game a bit.
@dddmmm212 жыл бұрын
All the ratings seemed higher than each following explanation seemed to warrant.
@thecaryou2 жыл бұрын
This should have been a part of a game like an engine for a bigger game. Like deckbuilding added to larger games.
@elqord.11182 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for Tom Lehmann to deliver another timeless classic with endless replayability aka Race for the Galaxy. I see this one has some clever stuff going on but overall I doubt it will stand the test of time the way Race did.
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
He already did with Res Arcana and i feel like this game will too. Alot of game in one box and honestly ripe for expansions too.
@siejaiz2 жыл бұрын
We will see, New Frontiers and RtfG Xeno were supposed to get an expansion for a while now.
@GivenToFly2012 жыл бұрын
@@siejaiz race or roll?
@JonoNZBoardGamer2 жыл бұрын
Dice upgrading in Dice Realms seems interesting but for the overall gameplay I think I'll stick with Dice Forge.
@VaultBoy132 жыл бұрын
Dice Forge didn't win me over. I can't see a bland, beige gamey-er version fairing any better. But, maybe this'll help to start a trend of more games using these dice. It'd be so interesting for dungeon crawlers and troops-on-a-map games to use dice like these. It would be so cool to upgrade your barbarian by upgrading your dice or to upgrade your tech in combat in a troops-on-a-map game with these dice.
@johnathanrhoades77512 жыл бұрын
If this looked like Dice Forge, I would be more interested. I know that's shallow and silly but...yeah. I'd rather play a deck builder I think.
@arcubal2 жыл бұрын
OMG, this must be the dryest component designs ever! I literally had to skip the explanation, cuz it was soooooo tedious. Sorry, Tom, this is not your fault. This is one incredibly dull looking game. What a box cover-to-component disconnect!
@Legitster2 жыл бұрын
I love Lehmann games, but I was thoroughly unimpressed by the fiddliness/fun ratio of this same mechanic in Dice Forge. When it comes to "Dominion, but for dice" it will need to unseat Cubitos for me.
@leebrown13522 жыл бұрын
Heads up some of this is response to your comparison to Cubitos but its also just general analysis of the game. The levels of variance with the dice in Cubitos and this game are pretty different. Little in the way of dice manipulation in Cubitos and even though you are rolling buckets of dice sometimes. The probability curve doesn't flatten out all that much because a lot of those dice have very few hit faces. It flattens out enough to minimise frustrating ealry bust. But not so much in terms of enabling engine building for me. There are some set ups like the 2nd recommended where you need to combo certain dice colours together. It gives it a bigger sense of engine building but it's very awkward to achieve those combos for the majority of the game. Then with the pacing of the game you don't always get to see the engine run for very long either. The point at where you can start to achieve the combo somewhat consistently. The game ends very abruptly. PS I really like Cubitos. Now you can make the same arguments for DR vis-a-vis the game ending before you get to run your engine. But I find this less of an issue because actually the game encourages tactical shifts with side grading and the pacing of the game is similarly, but more concisously driven by player decisions. You can get your engine running ealry with side grades in lieu of upgrades. Side grading is also in a sense luck mitigation which Roy touched on. Big point combos can also be garunteed with set faces and many combos are enabled by powerful rereoll effect type die that themselves increase the odds of rolling into the faces that they combo with. Push come to shove. They also still give points for their upgrade pips also. Considering how to spread your die effects to promote combos or hit money to buy additional dice is one of my favourite decisions in the game. And that's a unique property to customisable die. I'm not sure how it compares with Forge or RftG. But I really like it here. I agree with the comments that ealry games if the pools exhaust early it can be a bit disappointing. But in the long term its one of the more fascinating aspects of the game. I've played a bunch with just the basic set up trying to develop a solo and still not bored of it. I've tried one other recommended setup. Not every game is amazing. Sometimes its hard to pinpoint mistakes to help improve your gameplay. The big decisions get lost amongst the multitude of seemingly trivial choices you have have make. But I think all of the flaws are forgivable because of the playtime and downright moreishness. And most importantly because the depth is there. The game feels like and 8 / 8.5 in the moment buts there's a lot to explore and I'm thinking about it a lot. I can see it going up.
@Legitster2 жыл бұрын
@@leebrown1352 Yeah, but that's the thing that worries me. I love Lehmann's many other engine building games. But I'm not sure if it will be a better engine builder than those, and the dice building doesn't offer me enough novelty. My problem with Dice Forge was that if every roll gave you something, it robbed the roll of excitement. So I love the blank face distribution in Cubitos. And the idea of changing a single face and it maybe never showing up seems deeply unsatisfying. At least in Cubitos the die is always in your decision space once you buy it. And I love rolling lots of dice! So changeable faces addresses a problem I don't really have. I'm willing to give Dice Realms a try - again I generally love Lehmann games. But at the price point I will hope one of my friends buys it.
@MrRockapoodle722 жыл бұрын
This looks like it would pretty fun, i love skillfull randomness which this feels like and I think my friend group would like it... but 80 bucks is the cheapest out there and thats way more than I want to spend on a dice game. Ill wait for the price to tank to maybe 50 bucks tops
@Breyfunk2 жыл бұрын
This game looks excellent, but the price seems a wee bit too high to justify buying it right now.
@notsaved2 жыл бұрын
meh, overwrought and actually fits very poorly with theme... also too many components for zero table presence. Enjoyed the personalizable dice in Roll for the Galaxy, but I don't think this keeps an entire game afloat on its own. Seems like a lot of effort and production to basically push your luck
@DannyvanHolten2 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing Dominion. That basically reduces my interest in the game to 0 :( Especially for this price point
@non-alphagamer36182 жыл бұрын
This is it?? I see it for about $90 everywhere. This is a $30 game, at best.
@leebrown13522 жыл бұрын
Dont be ridiculous. Its expensive yes. And besides those tiles, not very pretty. But purely on value of components that's just not true. Gameplay content wise. The main comparison being made with Dominion. This effectively has multiple expansions in the core box.
@AkmalGameAtion2 жыл бұрын
You underestimate how much game there is in the box and how expensive those die faces are.
@DuGStp2 жыл бұрын
I’d try it, but ain’t no one got time for ugly games