Top 10 Games Tom is Wrong About!

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@Valcurdra
@Valcurdra 4 жыл бұрын
Toms next list. Top 10 former employees
@Iamwrongbut
@Iamwrongbut 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment on this video^^^ 😂
@BoxOfFear
@BoxOfFear 4 жыл бұрын
If Mike isn’t #1, he was totally robbed.
@TeChNoWC7
@TeChNoWC7 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shanyin499
@shanyin499 4 жыл бұрын
There should have been a live camera on Tom. Muted. Just showing his expressions.
@JohnBailey
@JohnBailey 4 жыл бұрын
LOL! Great
@marshall4311
@marshall4311 4 жыл бұрын
A missed opportunity!
@zenpvnk
@zenpvnk 4 жыл бұрын
The would have been great.
@m-sousa
@m-sousa 4 жыл бұрын
That would have been nice, if he had actually been there.
@kau6912
@kau6912 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@brettbolch6304
@brettbolch6304 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a video of Tom Reacting/Explaining his side of why he feels how he does! It would be Great!
@tdubkickflic
@tdubkickflic 4 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@vonwoolf9963
@vonwoolf9963 4 жыл бұрын
@Dice Tower Make it happen!
@brickuz
@brickuz 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful idea!
@ormhaxan
@ormhaxan 4 жыл бұрын
Just watch the original reviews?
@cmstricklen
@cmstricklen 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 4 жыл бұрын
This could be a series. Zee is wrong, Mike is wrong, etc.... And my favorite episode would be Sam is wrong! Bring on the Sam is wrong episode that would be epic! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 4 жыл бұрын
@@chimster1234 oof
@Skippan
@Skippan 4 жыл бұрын
That last one would be too long and boring
@Calistake047
@Calistake047 4 жыл бұрын
Now I'm dying for a Sam is Wrong top 10
@beemex01
@beemex01 4 жыл бұрын
*Table flip!!!* 😆
@jameswoodard4304
@jameswoodard4304 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Any reason to bring Sam back on to defend himself is more than welcome. Especially if it is also a reason to get him all riled up.
@Therisktaker3
@Therisktaker3 4 жыл бұрын
No offense to the rest of the dice tower team because they are great, but I love Zee,Roy, and Mike. They work well with each other on camera and play off of Tom as well. I always look forward to seeing videos with this group. This video is no exception keep up the excellent work.
@impostor53
@impostor53 4 жыл бұрын
This video shows that García is one of the best reviewers, game enthusiast in the hobby (along with Rahdo and Arnaudo). His intuitive comments, his poignant, meta knowledge shows that he had think (and play) a lot about his passion for gaming.
@chimster1234
@chimster1234 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@josegodoy8461
@josegodoy8461 4 жыл бұрын
Zee is turning out be a great aged wine.
@MrPeter13th
@MrPeter13th 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he is a good reviewer, yet he knows nothing about heavy Euros 🤷‍♂️. There is a huge spot that he can't fill...
@chimster1234
@chimster1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeter13th true, but I dont think he is trying too. For that, checkout the Heavy Cardboard channel.
@stevenotjackramsey
@stevenotjackramsey 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeter13th The Dice Tower isn't just one person, it's a collection of people with different knowledge bases. I don't necessarily agree that Zee knows "nothing" about heavy Euros, but you have to admit he is the person you can rely on to bring up interesting abstract games.
@AbigailSings4Ever
@AbigailSings4Ever 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna be some openings at the Dice Tower next week lol
@adelfaidah3224
@adelfaidah3224 4 жыл бұрын
15:20 The moment Zee started infinitely receding into another dimension, glad your back with us
@JohnCorley13
@JohnCorley13 4 жыл бұрын
I've had ton of fun with Dominant Species man....I replaced all the cones and whatnot with something that looks a bit more like root type tokens. Beautiful design
@mdhall41
@mdhall41 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely - this is a great game, none of these guys represent heavy gamers!
@SteoanK
@SteoanK 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Roy is completely wrong. Showing his age here (being young and wanting flashy minis).
@PandaOfElastic
@PandaOfElastic 4 жыл бұрын
@@SteoanK Gameplay aside, it looks undeniably bad. Much like John, I have replaced my cones and cubes with custom bits.
@SteoanK
@SteoanK 4 жыл бұрын
@@PandaOfElastic Flashy bits don't make a game good. It was good before you added them.
@SteoanK
@SteoanK 4 жыл бұрын
@@PandaOfElastic This is why CMON gets so much money on kickstarter for mediocre games.
@psykoyank6446
@psykoyank6446 4 жыл бұрын
I've only watched the explanation and already love this. This is a great example of, "We wouldn't like you if we didn't pick on you."
@richard-mtl
@richard-mtl 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no you don't slag on my On The Underground, Mike! I've been in your corner forever, but seeing this slander? 25:44 Outrageous!
@BigBoii1369
@BigBoii1369 4 жыл бұрын
I’m literally only 3 minutes into this video and it’s gotta be the best Dice Tower video of all time! It’s freaking hilarious! Let’s do a ZEE ROAST NEXT!! Can’t wait to see the picks!
@impostor53
@impostor53 4 жыл бұрын
These guys are good game! I love them. Waiting for Tom response. :-)
@carlag6326
@carlag6326 4 жыл бұрын
Loved, loved, loved(!) this list. Great camaraderie from the Dice Tower team. More please!
@AdamWhitehead111
@AdamWhitehead111 4 жыл бұрын
Next week: Top 10 Zee is Wrong. Do it.
@joostkleppe3522
@joostkleppe3522 4 жыл бұрын
He is a lovable guy, but more often wrong than Tom. Very peculiar taste.
@javiertalay
@javiertalay 4 жыл бұрын
I just saw an announcement on linkedin from the dice tower hiring two panelists and an editor
@davidzenert6999
@davidzenert6999 4 жыл бұрын
Once again, Zee Garcia proving he knows best. Jamaica the crew is such a solid game. Hits table almost weekly.
@xxporchyxx
@xxporchyxx 4 жыл бұрын
I refuse to play Jamaica now without the crew just love that expansion
@elaphawnte
@elaphawnte 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is the list I’ve always wanted but never knew it.
@truthholds
@truthholds 4 жыл бұрын
Tom should do a defense segment with all 30 of these, LOL
@thelupishow
@thelupishow 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best Top 10 lists ever! You need to put the person who is wrong in the "Hot" seat on set where we can see them react but they can't defend themselves. This was awesome. Great work. We had a blast in the chat live as well.
@joelwolski
@joelwolski 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see Tom's followup video, "Top 10 Reasons Why I Fired Everyone at The Dice Tower".
@slammer6128
@slammer6128 4 жыл бұрын
It would be a special top 30 actually :)
@JasperHayward
@JasperHayward 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this one! I feel like Zee was having a lot of fun with this!
@JamesI88
@JamesI88 4 жыл бұрын
I nearly fell out of my chair hearing at the gates of loyang was rated a 4. Great to hear Zee appreciates Notre Dame, great game, way better than a 4. Good design and moves fast. Ra is such a great, streamlined game that has more depth than you realize at first, and Medici is another good one, and I dont even like auction games. And at the end to say he rates Brass Birmingham a 5?!
@deltaarena2447
@deltaarena2447 4 жыл бұрын
A 6 for Arkahm Horror: the card game? That's my favorite game, it's so much fun to play, a nice combination of thinking what to do with the luck of the chaos bag. The tension and the moments of relief are just great in that game.
@Rhidcully
@Rhidcully 2 жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@LilBoyHexley
@LilBoyHexley 4 жыл бұрын
Was waiting the whole video for Zee to bust out Blue Moon 🤣
@dandurkin9735
@dandurkin9735 4 жыл бұрын
Fun list! Jamaica The Crew is a fantastic expansion - right on, Zee! Wiz War is a hoot - good choice.
@joncasso
@joncasso 2 жыл бұрын
We need more of these three. They are a fun trio
@moniquehansford9040
@moniquehansford9040 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite Top 10s I've ever seen! This was brilliant
@dankelly
@dankelly 4 жыл бұрын
When Roy said he made a Jif, i thought he made some peanut butter for Zee and Mike. I wonder if they were sad when they didn't get their delicious treat.
@petergross7235
@petergross7235 4 жыл бұрын
Sentinels of the Multiverse is awesome. Fiddly but awesome. I have to defend it. Love you Roy, but I have to side with the man in the hat on this one.
@MisterAbysmul
@MisterAbysmul 4 жыл бұрын
Amen, fiddly isn't always bad. Fantastic game!
@Atariese
@Atariese 4 жыл бұрын
You aren't the only one! Go Sentinels!
@irrevenant8724
@irrevenant8724 4 жыл бұрын
Whether someone likes or hates Sentinels seems to mostly come down to whether the overhead bothers them. It's basically the *only* complaint I ever hear about the game. Everything else is awesome - unique hero decks that play like that hero and very differently to each other, gameplay that starts you with the villain on top so you have to fight back to win, the environment deck throwing a wrench in the plans of both the heros *and* villains, great combos, flavourful card names like "Thokk!" and "Hypersonic assault", cool comic quotes on the cards, etc. Personally I got used to managing the overhead fairly quickly and don't even notice it most of the time so I'm just left enjoying all the great things about the game.
@MythicosQc74
@MythicosQc74 3 жыл бұрын
Sentinels is completely unbalanced.
@irrevenant8724
@irrevenant8724 3 жыл бұрын
@@MythicosQc74 Sentinels is somewhat unbalanced. Some heroes are a bit more powerful than others, and some are a bit less powerful than others. Which isn't much of a problem in a co-op game - and is arguably even a feature. (Feel like an easier game? Choose Legacy or Omnitron-X as one of your heroes. Want more of a challenge? Bring Expatriette or Unity). Even that can vary depending on what villain and environment you're playing though (Tempest is generally great but struggles against Dreamer, for example). Sentinels has a loooooot of heroes to choose from, each with their own strengths, weaknesses and play style. If you're finding it unfun, my guess is that you just haven't found the heroes that best suit your style yet. Which heroes have you played and which did you have issues with?
@ericweaver2691
@ericweaver2691 4 жыл бұрын
Quite often Roy makes statements that are completely incorrect. Sentinels of the Multiverse is fantastic. I play it 2 player, usually. so his, have to play it at 4 players is insane. I just have come to realize that when he likes a game I usually do not. By the way, I love Marvel Champions, which is definitely MATH, the super hero game
@ProfArmitage218
@ProfArmitage218 4 жыл бұрын
My first thought with that comment was that he had only played the first edition, before they introduced the "H" damage scaling. I never played the original, but if villains deal a flat amount of damage instead of it being based on the number of heroes, I can see it working best with a specific number of heroes.
@MythicosQc74
@MythicosQc74 3 жыл бұрын
Roy is completely right in this. And Mike mentionned how unbalanced it is. My friend who has it has to have a list of Heroes, Environments and Bosses that work together so the game is not completely ridiculous.
@danijelposta1748
@danijelposta1748 4 жыл бұрын
Jamaica The Crew really is a fantastic expansion. It's exactly what the game was missing.
@Bassishify
@Bassishify 4 жыл бұрын
Super agree with DC Deckbuilder, Notre Dame, and Arkham LCG. Love those games. Disagree with Innovation, but I get it. Definitely not for everyone but I really like it. My pick for the one not mentioned Tom likes way too much is Century Spice Road. I’m probably in the minority on that one but I bought it on his raving and found it super boring. Great lists and super fun to listen to!
@brianmyers13
@brianmyers13 4 жыл бұрын
Mysterium a 5? I am shocked. It is fantastic! I honestly did not expect to be so shocked so early. LOL.
@CMartMatross
@CMartMatross 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Myers I’m not. I’ve seen where people enjoy the game up until the final solution where the group feels the game is anticlimactic at the end.
@dall1786
@dall1786 4 жыл бұрын
It's good once or twice but starts to get dry and not much fun beyond that IMO.
@hombrepollo
@hombrepollo 4 жыл бұрын
Well, 2 things: Dominant Species is A-MA-ZING. And yes to Blue Moon it is the opposite to war, you have to think so much in each card
@john-qz3fu
@john-qz3fu 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, roy's hate for dominate species was confusing frankly.
@elsasslotharingen7507
@elsasslotharingen7507 4 жыл бұрын
Muh cubes
@sidneyleejohnson
@sidneyleejohnson 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving Eclipse and Battlestar Galactica. You've partially restored my respect for the Dice Tower. :)
@searose6192
@searose6192 4 жыл бұрын
Super fun guys! Great as always👍🏼😁
@meravl7615
@meravl7615 Жыл бұрын
Love coming back to these. We need more "X is worng" lists guys. Come on! ;P
@BC_VORTEX_CHANNEL
@BC_VORTEX_CHANNEL 4 жыл бұрын
There should be a new thing called Board Game Debates where one person absolutely loves a particular board game and another person hates the same board game, and the two debate over the board game. It could be a new running series changing the board games each week and the debaters.
@richardsaunders9214
@richardsaunders9214 4 жыл бұрын
Roy and Mike are wrong about Sentinels of the Multiverse. I think it’s more thematic than Marvel Champions and it’s still my favorite Super Hero game. But, I do agree with Mike on the DC deckbuilding game and Mysterium!
@CountDewkeww
@CountDewkeww 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Saunders I will also add, it's a lot easier to learn and teach.
@hardyworld
@hardyworld 4 жыл бұрын
Roy, I'm sorry you don't enjoy Dominant Species. But in this case, Tom is RIGHT and you are wrong. Dominant Species is probably my favorite board game, but I do acknowledge that keeping track of dominance on each location is a big annoyance. Also the game doesn't look horrible, I like how the game looks. It could use a component upgrade to keep up with modern games, but it doesn't need it.
@Spudkitty513
@Spudkitty513 4 жыл бұрын
What a great, refreshing topic. Love it!
@dvc1190
@dvc1190 4 жыл бұрын
We get two top 10 lists in one. This Top 10 Games Tom is Wrong About includes Top 10 Games Roy is Wrong About!
@BoxOfFear
@BoxOfFear 4 жыл бұрын
Top 10 games Roy is really sensitive about.
@mdhall41
@mdhall41 4 жыл бұрын
What does Tom rate Brass Birmingham and Food Chain Magnate - both in my top 10, and both he dislike immensely. We needed a voice for heavy games in this top 10!
@lauraweiss7875
@lauraweiss7875 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve come to the conclusion that is is just not a a heavy games channel. They typically prefer pretty games that require less strategy and more action. That’s fine; it’s just not what I’m into. I’d rather play Roads & Boats than Blood Rage.
@Tohnren
@Tohnren 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely with Mike on Gates of Loyang. It's one of my favorite Rosenbergs.
@TheDarkever
@TheDarkever 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most entertaining streams of the Dice Tower! And actually I agree with nearly everything that was said in this one. Maybe that's why I usually tend to watch Zee's reviews? 😏
@joshuadesjardins8294
@joshuadesjardins8294 4 жыл бұрын
We love DC! The expansions add an insane amount of card play and better Heros/Villains to play as. Also, if its theme you want, you can play any of the Crisis expansions where its jusf straight coop and you actually fight the villains in the lineup along with defeating scemes and supervillains.
@Inner2000
@Inner2000 4 жыл бұрын
We needed a video like this!!! Power to the people!!
@e-manr.486
@e-manr.486 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all doing post credit scenes now? Haha, brilliant 👏 🤣
@TheMr02drop
@TheMr02drop 4 жыл бұрын
I've cooled A LOT on Sentinels also. Playing it on the tabletop there is SOOO much down time. It works so much better on the computer.
@adamfrench1914
@adamfrench1914 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Gotta agree with Mike about Medici - until I played The Estates, Medici was my favorite auction game - a 10 for me. Auction is one of my favorite mechanics.
@maskalumni6037
@maskalumni6037 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with Mike about Tom's lack of love for Knizia. RA & Medici are awesome. I've not played Blue Moon, but both Mike and Zee seem to love it. Tom also only rated Tigris & Euphrates as Approved when he reviewed it, when it is obviously an Excellent game. One thing where Tom is definitely right is Innovation. Roy and Zee's lack of appreciation for Chudyk's brilliant combinations card game is criminal. A really fun video overall. I hope Tom gives his response.
@charleslatora5750
@charleslatora5750 4 жыл бұрын
Zee says 'you don't have to study to play the game'...me right now going thru the 34 page 4th edition(revised) rules + 6 pages of charts for Panzer Grenadier.... Maybe I'll get through this all by the time my eldest daughter's next birthday in the middle of September... This was lots of fun.
@ronmiel100
@ronmiel100 4 жыл бұрын
That top 10 should have been one of your top 10s in some convention, in front of an audience. Soooooo funny.
@Dr.TurdFartleyBM
@Dr.TurdFartleyBM 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the time Tom refused to even rate Five Tribes? Or the time he thought Caylus wasn't a worker placement game? I love Tom, but honestly, this video could have been a Top 100.
@dwmmd12
@dwmmd12 4 жыл бұрын
I love Jamaica: The Crew! It has turned Jamaica into my go-to intro game to non-gamers. It's always a good time.
@donteatpoop4689
@donteatpoop4689 4 жыл бұрын
Great expansion, I agree. Jamaica was one of my go-to's for introductions too, even before the expansion, but the expansion makes it that much better. So much easier than "What does this card mean again.. can I see the giant map rule book?" vibe that gets killed from the base game.
@magorzataja7088
@magorzataja7088 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, it was fun! 😂 muted camera on Tom would be great 🤣🤣
@TheBrokenMeeple
@TheBrokenMeeple 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Roy.........Roy...........your 8......how could you? I thought you were cool man! 🤪 ha ha! It works fine at three players and is immensely good fun! What other superhero games are better? Don’t you dare say those weird skirmish games! 😄..........MIIIIKKKKEEEEEEE!!!!! And Mike!!! No thought needed to have your turn in On The Underground? Blasphemy! Another awesome game! Half of the Euros out the are way more fiddly then the passenger which is easy to deal with. And Eclipse is a 4.........and City of Kings is .....ugh.......there’s more than one issue with that one. Theme being a huge factor. I think Mike likes those specific games becaus they feel more like Euro puzzles rather than adventure games. I think I have to go with Team Tom! 🤠😅 Also can’t handle upkeep of Sentinels but you like your big massive spreadsheet euros? Like Eclipse???? Get good!
@john-qz3fu
@john-qz3fu 4 жыл бұрын
What a fun and harmless roast! Great fun!
@TrevorJust
@TrevorJust 4 жыл бұрын
Roy, freaking bling out a copy of Dominant Species and play that, you have a 3D printer... it’s so amazing
@jameswoodard4304
@jameswoodard4304 4 жыл бұрын
I expect the "Zee is Wrong!" Countdown soon. Also, Arkham Horror LCG is amazing! And the Sentinels *app* comes off a bit mathy and fiddly, so I can't even imagine how obnoxious the physical card game would be. Well done fellas.
@Garuda_E
@Garuda_E 4 жыл бұрын
I'm normally right there with Mike, but his opinion on On the Underground breaks my heart. One of my favorite games of all time.
@CB-vk6rz
@CB-vk6rz 4 жыл бұрын
This was such a fun video to watch! 👍
@richardmagel4247
@richardmagel4247 4 жыл бұрын
Masmorra just got delivered to my doorstep today! Sometimes you just have to go with what looks good to you.
@MeepleOverboard
@MeepleOverboard 4 жыл бұрын
Roy pronounces gif in the way that makes me smile. Both are acceptable, but his way makes me smile.
@nathanielyamaguchi2897
@nathanielyamaguchi2897 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that Sentinels of the Multiverse has so much hate when it really is the most thematic of superhero games. None of other ones has the diversity that Sentinels has, but that does get in the way.
@atomiccritter6492
@atomiccritter6492 3 жыл бұрын
Its Munchkin with unnecessary worse mathematics
@nathanielyamaguchi2897
@nathanielyamaguchi2897 3 жыл бұрын
@@atomiccritter6492 I don't see any similarities, but only played Munchkin once and had no desire to try it again.
@atomiccritter6492
@atomiccritter6492 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielyamaguchi2897 adding up card numbers to beat the opposing card/s
@Daegilouze
@Daegilouze 4 жыл бұрын
That's why we like the Dice Tower! They have complementary tastes!
@johnvolkens
@johnvolkens 4 жыл бұрын
You definitely need to make a "Tom reacts to..." video for this!
@JasonLaw29
@JasonLaw29 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Watching this and Mike's other videos, I think his taste is closest to mine at the Dice Tower now (Ryan Metzler's was even closer). Sentinels is my biggest white elephant.
@nothing3376
@nothing3376 4 жыл бұрын
THAT ENDING! Wonder how many people missed that
@jdebarr
@jdebarr 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with Mike on the City of Kings....Love this game and cannot believe Tom did not like it. I think he is missing something. Lots of strategy, great components (I got the miniatures), and fun mechanics. Not sure what else you could want.
@paupertim5819
@paupertim5819 4 жыл бұрын
Dominant Species is great Roy. Second Edition looks a little better. Yes a Volcano can happen, but players control that, and you can vontrol the Volcano if you really wanted. You can also spread out to minimize being targeted and minimized it's effects. Can't wait for the new one to come out from the late designer.
@modemacabre
@modemacabre 4 жыл бұрын
Flamme Rouge! It's in the top 200 on BGG, it's one of my very few '10's, and Tom game it a very lacklustre 5.5.
@bryancapdevila8430
@bryancapdevila8430 4 жыл бұрын
In case it can be fixed, the closing credit’s list says “Top 10 Lookout Games.”
@liormk7655
@liormk7655 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, Tom's also wrong about the title of the video
@michaelchampion8391
@michaelchampion8391 4 жыл бұрын
I think this video, more than any others, showed me how much my tastes line up with Tom's and not with everyone else's :)
@forrestdunton2451
@forrestdunton2451 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this. Tom is a fantastic guy and so much fun to watch but lately his ratings have been so far off my tastes and haven’t helped me at all in my purchases so it’s fun to see these guys agree that he’s often just wrong.
@ForsakenProductions
@ForsakenProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Roy and Mike are WRONG about Sentinels of the Multiverse. I would discount Roy's entire list for such a grave mistake but standing up for the Tiny Epic series like he did means I suppose I'll have to forgive him for his wrong opinon on SotM.
@Atariese
@Atariese 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly in my experience, those that have played SotM with me tend to really enjoy it. Granted i do a lot of the admin for them... but its a game where i can just throw the decks on the table, say "Chose a superhero" and "These are the basic rules, however there will be a lot of things that come up that i haven't covered... these are specific to your decks. And its how your hero is awesome." I can see why people don't like it (i wouldn't play it weekly, monthly might be ok. But its been played at least 30+ times). But i just haven't encountered many that haven't enjoyed the experience. And those that have admitted such to me are still willing to play it. For the camaraderie and the ability to just sit back with a deck they know and not have to do any big thinky plays.
@Heatranoveryou
@Heatranoveryou 4 жыл бұрын
Sentinels is just a jrpg boss fight where you have to do all the calculations and ai yourself
@vveaponx
@vveaponx 4 жыл бұрын
@@Heatranoveryou Saying a game is a bunch of math is like saying your drinks are comprised of water. Name a single game that doesn't have math involved; from a dexterity to worker placement. It's fine to not like a game but Roy's criticism is communicated like a teenager. Calling a game "garbage" (Rumble in the Dungeon) was another example of immature behavior.
@Heatranoveryou
@Heatranoveryou 4 жыл бұрын
@@vveaponx that just sounds like salt to me.
@vveaponx
@vveaponx 4 жыл бұрын
@@Heatranoveryou Is it? You mean asking for constructive criticism like a grown adult also respecting that people spent time designing these games, for who knows how many hours is salt? Someone may really enjoy that game and calling it "garbage" is disparaging at best. Like I said, it's fine to not enjoy something but at least give a reason like Mike and Zee did.
@loki665zx9
@loki665zx9 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on Lewis&Clark (one of the best, unique euro games I have played) and Jamaica:TheCrew (one of the best expansions I've gotten for a game)
@wildkyleappears
@wildkyleappears 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most enjoyable sessions, awesome stuff ya'll haha
@davegildersleeve4316
@davegildersleeve4316 4 жыл бұрын
I know Tom lambasted the Stronghold game Gold Fever, but we really,really like it. I realize it is supremely light, but man, we have had more fun with this game, especially with new or non-gamers. I think he's wrong about this one, with all due respect. You guys are great!!
@warmachineuk
@warmachineuk 4 жыл бұрын
I never had much trouble with passenger routing in On the Underground.. I rate it 7, short of Vasel's 9.
@Garuda_E
@Garuda_E 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, so many of your points in that game come from manipulating the passenger to ride on your rails on your turn. So his table is only taking 15 seconds to play their track, and /then/ they're trying to figure out where the passenger goes, they're missing a significant portion of the game.
@RheaOfLief
@RheaOfLief 4 жыл бұрын
Some reasons for wide differences remind me of a few video game reviews. Metal Gear was received poorly from some critics due to stealth and ammo conservation being a new idea. If you play the game like an action game, it's terrible. I believe this one was an Aliens fps game. The game was rated very low due to controls. It was bashed for changing what was the norm and most of the review pertained to the controls. From one of the biggest review magazines at the time. The next game to use the same control layout was Halo. Someone not liking a game is fine. Someone not liking a game while experiencing it incorrectly (including player count, wrong mindset or wrong rules) is not easy to let go. Which is why Aeon's End reviews here get so loud xD and I believe the Epic Card Game is the same way. It is difficult to differentiate "bad" and "not for me" at times.
@pugdalf
@pugdalf 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Reviewers throwing words like "complete garbage" also doesn't help... 🙄
@1AngelAlita
@1AngelAlita 4 жыл бұрын
Best Top 10 ever. And I agree with all choices here that I've played. Blue Moon, Arkham Horror and Sentinels of Multivers being the most stand out.
@beemex01
@beemex01 4 жыл бұрын
We LOVE Menara. Still hits the table regularly on Our game nights. Tom is so! WRONG about it.
@adamholt5395
@adamholt5395 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow Roy. You yelled half of the video. I understand that you can be passionate, but when I have to turn the TV down when it comes your time to talk then there's a problem.
@melibabe
@melibabe 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the themes I'm seeing is that Tom just doesn't like "take that" games - or "take that" adjacent, like many two-player battle games.
@DF-we4pt
@DF-we4pt 4 жыл бұрын
The best top 10 vid yet. Can we get the Vassel top 10 hats list next😝
@DaFees
@DaFees 4 жыл бұрын
I can't really say that I've played any of the games on these lists other than some of the Tiny Epic games and base Jamaica. That said though my #1 on this list if I was doing one would likely be Unfair by Good Games Publishing. There is just so much to love about this game. Yes it can be mean or very take that. The game is literally called Unfair. That said the artwork is fantastic and the gameplay is surprisingly solid. There are ways to play without much of the take that but at the same time there are ways to deal with the take that. The simple fact is that when Tom played this game, he thought he knew better than the rules, choose non-recommended themes for a first time play and ended up having a bad time playing a combination of themes with high unfairness ratings. Add to that he simply didn't play the game enough to appreciate the legs that this game has. Also, this isn't just me that feels this way. Look at the numbers, this is one of the few games where the expansion got more funding on Kickstarter than the base game. That is largely unheard of. All that said though I genuinely think Tom will have a more enjoyable experience with the upcoming Funfair which is a non-modular version of Unfair without any of the meanness or take that.
@fearanarchy
@fearanarchy 4 жыл бұрын
I see Roy knows all the loss conditions in Dominant Species well. *shakes head* Kinda did the same crime you accused Tom of on that pick.
@tdubkickflic
@tdubkickflic 4 жыл бұрын
lol great video! even though i thought his review was great, i always thought tom was wrong about brass birmingham. also thought he was wrong about flamme rouge.
@javierdelamaza8333
@javierdelamaza8333 4 жыл бұрын
About Lewis and Clark: If you see a romantic movie looking for action, you will hate that movie... Tom says that L&C is a bad and slow racing game... but is an excellent worker placement game with a race theme!
@JBearwa
@JBearwa 4 жыл бұрын
Love Tom. Love these videos! This was awesome to hear.
@adelfaidah3224
@adelfaidah3224 4 жыл бұрын
okay roy ill give you that dominant species could be improved immensely in terms of component quality and artwork and maybe just maybe it can be too long for some people for what it is. BUT to say that it is not fun is absolute blasphemy. The mechanisms are extremely well done, just top notch, and if you got blown by a meteor that is your fault to an extent. You can see the cards that are available for the next turns, and should have figured a way to play around it, or minimize the damage by spreading out.
@IronSalamander8
@IronSalamander8 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they call Tom wrong and yet Roy pronounces GIF wrong almost immediately! I played Dominant Species recently thanks to TTS. I wouldn't give it an 8, but didn't dislike it. It IS about a turn or 2 too long, the components are bland, and it wasn't amazing, but I enjoyed the experience at least, so I wouldn't call it bad. I've not played Lewis and Clark but it was brought to a meetup once and they took forever to actually finish it. I can't judge it from that vantage point but it doesn't inspire me to seek it out. I'd try it out before really judging it though. Tiny Epic games are a mix. Kingdoms is ok, but nothing to be excited over. Galaxies is great, and I really like that one. Zombies is good too, I haven't played the rest to judge them. I have an older version of Wiz War, it's pretty fun, I'd probably put it between 6 and 9, we haven't played in years. I have some Arkham Horror the card game stuff. It's decent but the thematic link feels weaker to me than it first appears and it brings it down for me, although I still like it more than Tom.
@martinba9629
@martinba9629 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. There I was wondering what he meant by "jiff". 😅
@TerrierHalo
@TerrierHalo 4 жыл бұрын
Top 3 reviewers who are wrong about Sentinels. ;) This was hilarious, thanks guys.
@joostkleppe3522
@joostkleppe3522 4 жыл бұрын
Never-real 'naughtiness', but fun to watch. BTW Gates of Loyang is the best solo game Uwe ever designed.
@koalabrownie
@koalabrownie 4 жыл бұрын
I looked at that Tiny Epic games once- they might be tiny, they might be epic, but they ain't cheap.
@CB-yh3db
@CB-yh3db 4 жыл бұрын
lol.....1 hour of dragging Tom Vasel. This was really funny. Tom is a good sport about it which makes chiding him fun.
@ProfOfHifi
@ProfOfHifi 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! It's fun that you have a humour to do this.
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