Top 10 Pickup-and-Deliver Games

[@ronaldobaptista5413]

seeing Rahdo with the dice tower gang is like one of those Marvel/DC crossovers!

[@jaxommm]

+Ronaldo Baptista It's weird man....I kind of like it, and I kind of don't!!!

[@crazbird]

why not?

[@RayPhay]

This was one of my favorite top 10 shows ever. The interaction between Tom, Jason and Richard just had me cracking up. It is funny to see how different people define pick up and deliver games.

[@ryanhiatt23]

I think we need a LOT more Dice Tower/Rahdo crossover! Loved this Top Ten!

[@jonbauer4282]

Great entertainment value! The debates were not only animated but actually well thought out and voiced. Richard actually brings out the best in Jason without doubt. Best thing was, amongst all the pokes and digs, what shone through was 3 gamers just loving talking about their hobby regardless of subject or opinion.

[@richardalanholster7390]

Yeah Snowy. You got that right! Great show you three.;)

[@desertgamers6065]

love the way the board game reviewer community is coming together and supporting each other more. Thanks guys

[@jaxommm]

Jason's list was the best one, as usual. Guy knows his games.

[@goyasolidar]

This was your most interesting Top 10 to date. I'd like to suggest that you make this a regular format of your top 10 lists, with inputs coming from Tom as a mainstay, and rotating the other two spots with different Dice Tower contributors and/or guest appearances by other reviewers.

[@smoothcriminal28]

As long as Vasel and Rahdo don't rotate, am fine with that.

[@prufrock1977]

Awesome to see Rahdo and Tom debating.

[@nicktw8688]

This was one of the best top 10's, the philosophical gaming disagreements between Rahdo and Jason were adorable. Rahdo must visit Florida more often. :)

[@smoothcriminal28]

This collaboration with Rahdo including Jason talking about the Euro's (the finest form of gaming in the Universe) is simply amazing imo. Tom, you should have Rahdo on frequently, his brilliance + the DT Magic have made forn some of my favorite moments ever on this channel.

[@tianjian97]

Pickup-and-Deliver is also not a favorite mechanism of mine but I thoroughly enjoyed this video. The surprising chemistry, back-and-forth debate, multiple perspective was highly entertaining. Would LOVE LOVE to see more top 10s with Rahdo and Jason together!

[@natelinhart114]

Hahaha the arguments were the best. Black Fleet should be mentioned. Super underrated.

[@steveg7000]

Great top ten list that reflects great diversity in taste. An instant all-time favorite.

[@smoothcriminal28]

Agreed

[@Patronux]

+Steve Gale Yes, please make more of these top 10s with Rahdo and Jason.

[@ChrisSmith-yg4ql]

I loved the interaction between Tom and Richard at the end of the live Gamma feed so I was over joyed to see them together again on this video. Tom and Richard are my favourite game reviewers and would love to see more videos of them working side by side like this. Great video and thanks for all you gentlemen do for board gaming.

[@peterterry7918]

The chemistry is so good! I just figured out that Tom loves conflict in discussions as much as in his games! I think while Jason/Richard shines the most in this video, the look onTom's face tells me he doesn't mind it in the least to play 2nd/3rd fiddle when the moments were so good!

[@smoothcriminal28]

I agree lol.

[@frankzed7684]

This was a fantastic Top 10. I really enjoyed the back and forth (conflict, one might say) between Rahdo and Jason. I'd love to see more guest appearances on the Top 10s (Eric!!). Great Job, Tom, Richard and Jason.

[@cadenlaptad3247]

This was by far the most interesting Top 10 you guys have done - I love the diversity among all the lists. Plus, having Richard and Tom in the same video is pretty cool too. :D

[@adam19742007]

Probably one of the best top 10s ever. It would be so awesome to see Rahdo back for another. The three of you had such back and forth. The perfect fools for each other.

[@silversage51]

this was one of the best top 10 in a long time. Richard was great , the back and forth between the three of them was "Awesome". that was for Jason. great job guy's.

[@donliles1902]

I loved having Rahdo on this top 10 list. His arguing with Jason was classic. I know people were grumpy with Jason, but I love his passion. The point in which Tom looks at the camera as they are going back and forth and mouths "I am so happy" with a smile was great.

[@checkrazor76]

Great episode. The chemistry between the three of you was amazing. Bring Rahdo in once a year for the live gaming and a few top tens. Great stuff.

[@DrCliche]

Well bloody done lads. When we can show the hobby is open and inclusive involving two competing web shows, this makes me happy. And my two favourite. Well played!

[@galanu]

Really good episode...nice and fresh banter between the three on the show. The respect between the three is evident. My favourite top 10 from Tom in a while

[@thegillettefive]

This was a train wreck but one of the best videos to date. I hope they do a million of these. great group.

[@davekoehnlein4575]

This is fantastic! I was hoping we would see Richard again soon on the DT :)

[@katzenkotzen]

It's so weird seeing Rahdo next to Tom Vasel doing a Dice Tower Top 10. Though super, super fun!

[@MattyJude]

For a Euro game list there was an awful lot of conflict! Great show though and a real treat with Rahdo and Jason being involved.

[@bobarian65]

Best Top Ten list I've seen so far. Loved the interaction with Rahdo and Jason. Keep up the good work!

[@jeffwmoore]

I loved this list!! Awesome!! It was so great ... 3 reviewers said they had trouble coming up with 10 games that they liked and then collectively gave us a list of 30 different games ... zero cross over ... and the banter had me laughing all the way through ... the most entertaining video the Dice Tower has done in a long time!!

[@derwoodbowen5954]

Having Rahdo join made this truly interesting. The Sam, Tom and Zee interactions are always good, but do have an aura of predictability. Richard and Jason really made it different. I know from meeting Tom that he disagrees with Richard a lot and it was a bold choice. While you might argue about pick up and delivery, the personal interaction really made this. Richard and Jason are nothing if not knowledgeable. Good job to Tom for engineering this. (almost no pun intended)

[@nclrobotics]

I loved every minute of this video, it was so much fun. Thanks to the unknown benefactor that finished the pledge drive for the Rahdo funding level. This was very close to not happening. Having three people with such encyclopedic knowledge and diverse tastes was a real treat.

[@smoothcriminal28]

Totally agree. Thank the Cosmos for that secret benefactor that made this happen. Rahdo has made for some of my all time DT segments already.

[@wilhelmbackhaus4931]

I love watching (or more like listening to) these long videos while assembling print and play stuff.

[@IanBennetts]

This has to be my favourite Dice Tower Top Ten to date, I laughed every time they argued about whether a game qualified.

[@AndyP998]

Great to see different lineup to these top 10s. Finally Jason and especially Richard. Best top ten so far

[@tcp1623]

So refreshing... There´s a lot of positive things to be said about the trio of Tom, Sam and Zee, but this was so refreshing. Also; it is quite clear that the new guy has been doing the graphics.

[@Steve-L]

+Troels Petersen I also like the new graphics and video editing. But I do like the old style of the graphic on the bottom of the screen showing the name of the game listed. I don't care for the new game title styles. They aren't bad, but not nearly as good as the old ones.

[@Guybrush369]

This was so great!! I wish this group was a regular thing...

[@jenniferhaar7934]

Awesome bonus list! It was a fun to hear some fresh discussions. loved seeing Rahdo around

[@JoachimErdtman]

My brother has never seen Firefly, but really enjoys Firefly: The Game. It's my favorite pick-up and deliver game. Here's my list: 1. Firefly: The Game 2. Merchants & Marauders 3. Isaribi 4. Deep Sea Adventure 5. Keyflower 6. Flash Point: Fire Rescue 7. Rumble in the Dungeon 8. Alcatraz: The Scapegoat 9. Broom Service 10. Merkator

[@Izobretenik]

+Joachim “Yoki” Erdtman Isaribi! Nice choice, Sir!

[@NewTrollVideos]

I was pleased to see Rahdo and Jason when the video started but was a little concerned Richard wouldn't mesh well during the interactions. I was so wrong! Great job guys! As for me, Firefly is my favorite for solo, Xia is my favorite for multi-player. Which is funny because I much prefer the fantasy theme. They're both just that good!

[@Atlas-FM8]

This was awesome. I'd love to see more top 10s where you mix up the guests. It's refreshing to get more varied perspectives and mixing up the onscreen chemistry.

[@giovannabetancourt3064]

I agree with everyone this was one of the best top 10! You all had great discussion! I always feel like with Zee and Sam it always gets awkward, like they can't have a discussion without having Sam get upset and shut down and Zee and Tom saying a joke at Sams expense. Don't get me wrong I love Zee and Sam as well, but when all 3 are together for a top 10 too much tension and it makes me uncomfortable.

[@studleygamer]

This is such a great idea! Thanks for doing this gentlemen.

[@KabukiKid]

It definitely is fun to see the different chemistry with different people on these lists from time to time. :-) It gives it more variety and more surprises. :-)

[@ayahoo16]

+KabukiKid I almost think they should plan to do them with special guest regularly

[@boardgameknight2791]

It seems like where Tom and Richard see Pickup and Deliver as a mechanic, Jason sees it as a thematic element. I'm not sure it makes sense as a thematic element though. Pickup and Deliver, if described more thoroughly, should really be described as "Pickup, move to a new place, then deliver", in which case, all the railway/rout-building games wouldn't qualify mechanically, but they might still thematically. Still is a great set of lists, thanks guys. :)

[@cthulwho8197]

Yeah, to Jason pick up and deliver has to include moving physical goods and selling them for money. Of course you can deliver a person to the paramedics just as you can deliver food to the table in the same room (or even deliver a speech).

[@wroot_lt]

+Boardgame Knight I agree on the different view of both sides here (mechanical against thematic). But i think Jason had a point arguing against Forbidden Desert and Flash Point if going by "deliver" definition (thematically). You have to hand of and give it to someone else, not take it to your ship or whatever. This is looting, searching, bringing or anything else, but not delivering. Delivering to an ambulance is such a stretch also :) Well, at least in my book. But i lean to agree with Rahdo about route connecting instead of P&D on railway games.

[@stevefett1]

+Cthulwho? I see Jason's problem with it though. At its core Flashpoint is a put out the fires and save people game. I'd never call it a pick up and deliver game. Same with either of the Forbidden games. That's not the main goal in either game.

[@pad92011]

best top 10 to date! go Radho.

[@BogartFace]

Totally unexpected lineup! So awesome!

[@Straddllw]

More from Rahdo and Jason!!! Quick before Rahdo leaves, you need to update your top 10 Euro list.

[@Empurity]

I thoroughly enjoyed the discussions in this Top 10, more so than any other Top 10

[@2frelledminds]

When Jason was disagreeing with Forbidden Desert, I kept waiting for him to follow up "It's not delivery" with "It's Digiorno."

[@icurnvss]

I just want to say for Tom's comment about Jason's #10, that I fell asleep trying to watch the first episode of Firefly, have never actually seen the show beyond the first 10 minutes, and I have no desire to go back and watch the show, and yet I absolutely love Firefly: The Board Game. I found it very immersive and you just get lost in the game and realize you've never even started the main mission yet, you're just having so much fun picking up and delivering, and building your crew, etc, etc, etc, and then 3 hours have gone by, lol.

[@jelledaems808]

I love the fact that Rahdo is starring as a guest in a dice tower top 10! He has a totally different taste of board games than the rest of the dice tower. This should be done more in the Dice Tower Top 10 videos: invite a guest! And I know from the the videos of the dice tower and Rahdo Runs Through, that my taste in board games is a lot more like Rahdo than Tom/Zee/Sam. For example: I just love The Gallerist, but I don't think that this is a game for Tom/Zee/Sam, while my gaming group absolutely loves it. No problem of course. But is is nie to hear another opinion ;)

[@santiagopedrazzoli3470]

God I miss Sam and Zee, but Richard and Jason add so much diversity to the top 10!! Great work, guys!!!

[@kam4bream]

I really missed Sam and Zee, but I really loved the idea of the having Jason and Rahdo do the Euros. Great idea Tom, just a great video. Keep up the great work.

[@NightSpook]

What a pleasant suprise! It's like the next best thing after Spidey 'joined' the Avengers in the Civil Wars trailer. A collaboration between superheroes... a crossover... All craziness aside, cool that you guys are getting along so well. Especially when your tastes differ so much. I totally love Sam and Zee, but this is pretty awesome!

[@rahdo]

+SensualEMO "hey everyone" (squint)

[@forisrex]

this was way too fun, i hope rahdo and jason can come back in the future for another one of these

[@zoltankaldy]

I like videos from both Tom and Rhado, bought some games due to your reviews :) It was great see you guys together, discussing your top 10 lists; and see your - sometimes different - opinions. Thanks!

[@michaelhastriter3299]

People who love Pick-up and deliver... this delivers big time 17:28

[@jcb3393]

40:32 - Gotta agree with Jason. Forbidden Desert and Forbidden Island are really stretching the definition of "pick-up-and-deliver". May as well call "Escape: Curse of the Temple" pick-up-and-deliver as well, because you are deliver gems to different tiles throughout the temple in order to be able to escape.

[@rahdo]

+jcb3393 but you don't travel anywhere to pick them up... hence only half the requirement of PU&D is met :)

[@RusselFleming]

My son says "Jason does not know what a pick up and deliver game is" because he agrees that FlashPoint is a pickup and deliver game. We were both happy to see Xia on the list as well.

[@codymiller6061]

Wow! Such a great recommendation for Xia - thank you Tom!! :D

[@KabukiKid]

+Cody Miller The proud Papa! heh :-) btw... your game kicks ass, Cody. :-) Love it!

[@SariasLullaby]

Seriously the amount of quality for a first game is insane. Criminally underrated

[@andrewlupp8596]

This was amazing and enjoyable. Great to see smart and informed commentary on these heavier games.

[@danielpreilly77]

Great commentary guys, enjoyed seeing the three of you talk shop. Awesome to see Rahdo on the Dicetower

[@zephro666000]

Three of my favorite reviewers in one room. Awesome

[@Salixalba1000]

Good stuff and loved the insight with Richard. Jason experience is wonderful. Though I also would like to see Sam and Zee list on this as well.

[@geneinkc]

Re: Cinque Terre at 12:06... You only roll the dice once, at the beginning of the game. The prices are then static.

[@ostaskonstantinidis2708]

Excellent video, the chemistry between the three was very good.

[@iiamrand5129]

Really enjoyed this one . One of my favourites

[@danielauvil7751]

When I woke up this morning, I thought to myself, "Self, I'd really like to hear people bicker over a clear topic and discuss the various iterations of Scribble Train". This video picked up my wish and delivered it an hour later. :|

[@thedicetower]

+Daniel Auvil Whew, we are so lucky to have delivered on such a specific goal! Thanks!

[@jcb3393]

+Daniel Auvil don't you mean "itinerations"?

[@danielauvil7751]

Dice Tower really knows how to handle the niche requests! In the midst of the madness, I was hoping that War of the Ring would get a shout out. I only wish that Merchants & Marauders had gotten some love.

[@smoothcriminal28]

+The Dice Tower Picked up a little sarcasm within those words :)-

[@christianbone3395]

+Daniel Auvil Yeah, if he's including Xia then Merchants and Marauders should be there somewhere.

[@evilmadcap]

This video made me so very happy. I like that it was top 10 mostly railroad games for everyone but Rahdo :)

[@philsheep9926]

Now, now, children - PLAY NICELY! Hahaha, loved the "discussion" in this vid - so, so funny.

[@Grimlocksmith]

I feel that I should note that I have taught Firefly: The Game to someone who had never seen the show, and he loved playing the game. Of specific note, I think, is the sandbox feel of the game, which is definitely part of what I like about it. It is long, but that can vary a lot depending on which scenario you play (and some of the new setup cards are definitely helping to shorten the game). Definitely backing Jason on this one.

[@AndyLevey]

Most contentious top 10 ever. Can we get Zee and Sam to commentate?

[@raymonddavies2934]

I'm so pleased that the kick starter enabled this to happen.

[@Bildi7v]

Great video, love seeing such crossovers and variety.

[@dustinboatman6134]

What about Black Fleet Tom? I thought you might list it. It is one of my favorite family games.

[@smoothcriminal28]

Probably my second favorite pick up and deliver game.

[@fustercluck666]

The three of you have a great vibe! Sorry Sam and Zee, you're out. ;-) No, seriously, you should get Richard over more often. I enjoyed the interactions with the Dice Tower crew during the whole week from the live gaming show through the GAMA live stream to this Top 10 very much. Also, with Richard and Jason on the table this Top 10 felt fresh. We got more variety of games, not just the usual suspects. Love it!

[@bartattack]

Yeah, I'm with Rahdo (and probably everyone) on Food Chain Magnate not being a pick-up and deliver game. Even if it was, it wouldn't be one in a "traditional" sense either.

[@TheGatorDude]

Your comment Tom got me thinking, I'd love to see a top 10 "Best Produced Games".

[@kylewhite2985]

+Austin Riddle I can second that, and i always wished for somenthing similar to ther Top10 Ridiculous components but with actually cool components, like a Top 10 Toy Games, or Top 10 Games with Best Miniatures, because i'm very much like Sam, i love my miniatures and games that have great "toys" to illustrate it.

[@Steve-L]

+Austin Riddle When they asked for ideas, I posted the top 10 best looking board games. Go vote for my idea.

[@jeffrainwater4084]

For your top 10 roll and move, don't forget Geister Geister Schatsuchmeister because I have never once heard you guys mention it. it's a kinderspeil winner and it's an amazing family style cooperative roll and move game that also has beautiful artwork by the same guy that did Ghost Stories. Never heard you guys mention it so I'm not sure if you have ever tried it. It's great!

[@garymountford5828]

This was great. Please have more videos of the 3 of you.

[@EclecticCamel]

I'm so happy this happened. :D

[@shlomaster1]

great video, love the arguments about what is a pick up and delivery.

[@tinstargames]

Ten points for Rahdo getting squeaky voiced!

[@gheilers]

+Steve Dee So...does Jason then score points for every sentence he utters?

[@VideoGameTakeOut]

Great to see some guests on the Top 10s. It's interesting to see new opinions. I just wish it was on a type of game I liked more. :)

[@jonasakerblom2675]

So much more interesting with Rahdo and Jason. Glad to not see lists full of small card games and Ameritrash and finally see some good euros :)

[@randomjunk1977]

Forbidden Desert is not at all pick up and deliver. It's basically set collection. Find one of each piece of the airship to escape. Yes you have to go to one particular space on the board to escape but it's not like you have to take the pieces back and drop them off before heading out again or something. You just have to all be on that square once you have the pieces in order to escape.

[@89Torrek]

My favorite Pickup-and-Deliver is Lords of Xidit. You gather your army: militia, archers, clerics, mages and then go to cities "fighting" with monsters - delivering right type of units. I love programming aspect, the way of scoring and it's really beautifull with high production value.

[@petermobius]

That was awesome. Please have Radho and Jason back for a cpl more. I loved the differing perspectives.

[@FamilyMcManus]

Great job guys. Really enjoyed the synergy. I thought Richard was going to mention Macao. Maybe the pick up and delivery portion is not a large enough portion of the game?

[@rahdo]

+FamilyMcManus yup, i considered it, but pu&d is a *really* tiny part of the game... it's all about that windrose

[@69spagetti]

Loved this episode Tom. Interesting debates.

[@twenty-sidedturtle2107]

Good vid. But Jason, what part of FCM is "pickup?" It's prepare and deliver if anything.

[@Steve-L]

Cinque Terre is my 40th favorite game. I would say this is the only "classic" Pick up & delivery game on my list. Pick up & Delivery doesn't excite me. But I did like this game. Forbidden Desert is my 68th favorite game. I had played Forbidden Island at a game convention last year and it was a bit too simple for my taste. Someone in my meetup knew I was looking to play this, and brought it. Unfortunately they set it up wrong and we failed, but I got the idea and liked it enough, and looking forward to playing it again. Settlers of America - Trails to Rails is my 52nd favorite game. I think it falls into the category discussed in this video where you create a network, but don't actually deliver the product. Not sure, only played the game once, but quite liked it. My favorite Catan style game. Iron Dragon is currently at #111. I actually keep a top 110 because replaying games may put a game back on the the top 100, but have kept Iron Dragon at 111, because I played the game only once probably over 10 years ago. I remember liking the game okay. I was only playing 2 games at the time, and it was before immersing myself into the hobby. I may like it more. I am looking forward to playing it again, and believe if I do, it will climb back onto my top 100, but won't know until I do. Coal Baron is a game I recently looked into, and looks like something I may like. It is on my "to play" list. It looks very thematic, and I love games with strong theme. Return of Heroes was a game I had on my "to play" list, or even my "to get" list, but 2 things have kept since removed it. First and foremost I learned you can get a quest, and the item you need to fulfill that quest can be stuck in the bag for a long time destroying the game. This was a game breaking concept to me, the 2nd thing is it is OOP. Otherwise I love fantasy adventure games and really wanted it. But not any more. The Great Zimbabwe is a game that I almost played. We were getting it set up and being taught the game and I learned of it's theme. The theme seemed offensive to me, and didn't want to play. Luckily for me, the 3rd player was falling asleep, and so we quit before playing. Twin Tin Bots: I never heard of this game and just watched Tom's review. It instantly went on my "to get" list, as RoboRally is my favorite game. I really enjoyed watching this video, it was refreshing to get a different group, even though it is not a type of game I am generally interested in.

[@mikevande]

Some love for Silverton! That was one of the first heavier games I played. Fun to play while living in Colorado.

[@davidpeterson5179]

Firefly is the # 1 "Pickup and Delivery" game. I never thought of Forbidden Desert as a "Pickup and Delivery" game, and I do like Forbidden Desert and Flashpoint Fire Rescue as well. Another game I like is Black Fleet, which I think of as "Firefly light".

[@KnightOwl23]

Great top 10 guys. Loved the guest stars. Though I say it was funny that the start of the video everyone said this was a tough selection as they weren't big into pick up and delivery. I just wonder why they didn't pick a list better suited to the guests? Still it was great fun :)

[@miken1819]

Loved the guests!

[@theflan045]

Awesome, Rahdo and Jason!

[@nozetsu]

Finally we have someone telling Tom that his choice is not in the genre :D!

[@bradonthefarm]

Love that Merkator got some love. An excellent, overlooked game.

[@jankogo]

I really like Sam and Zee, but it´s fun with a bit of variety. They should be with you and do a top ten euro games!