Anthony Hopkins On Working With Katharine Hepburn (And Her Temper!) | The Dick Cavett Show

Actor Anthony Hopkins (The Silence of the Lambs, A Bridge Too Far, The Father) chats with Dick Cavett about what it was like to work with acting legends, Peter O'Toole and Katharine Hepburn on 'The Lion in Winter'-and how to deal with Hepburn's infamous temper!
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Date aired - November 21st, 1978 - Anthony Hopkins
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Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.

His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.

Cavett has published four books beginning with Cavett (1974) and Eye on Cavett (1983), co-authored with Christopher Porterfield. His two recent books -- Talk Show: Confrontations, Pointed Commentary, and Off-Screen Secrets (2010) and Brief Encounters: Conversations, Magic moments, and Assorted Hijinks(October 2014) are both collections of his online opinion column, written for The New York Times since 2007. Additionally, he has written for The New Yorker, TV Guide, Vanity Fair, and elsewhere.
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[@TheDickCavettShow]

Guess what? We've uploaded a FULL version of Anthony Hopkins' 1992 interview! Watch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpacq4Nqqa6DjLM

[@rossmcl1776]

I miss this kind of interview so much. No whooping from the audience, no expectation of 'gags' every 10 seconds, no gimmicks. Just a gentle, revealing chat. Looks easy but isn't: Cavett was a master at it, and Hopkins is always a great guest. But the style of the interview is so much missed.

[@MicheleEngel]

Hopkins has been a somewhat surly guest lately. He seems tired to me--tired of suffering fools, tired of the bullshit--but he's contracted to go on these press appearances each time he does a movie. I don't really mind, though. He's given us so much! Including the lightness of this conversation with Cavett.

[@ellendonahue556]

No politics as well, no assholes like Jimmy Kimmel or Steven Colbert acting like damn infomercials for democrats every 2 seconds.

[@babapambazuka2845]

FWIW the closest thing I'm finding currently-produced to this quality of interview is Sam Jones with his "Off-Camera Show", frequently uploaded to this same site. Not exactly the same vibe, but similarly relaxed and thoughtful vs hammy and contrived.

[@DudeKembro69]

@@ellendonahue556 Would you like some cheese to go along with your whine? Do Republicans every do anything but bitch, moan, whine, cry and complain? Good grief! No wonder y'all lose. Offer some positivity and optimism for a change!

[@jonstone9741]

@@DudeKembro69 I'm gonna steal your "cheese with whine" line when I get a chance. Please don't call the cops.

[@JMCNYC79]

How refreshing to see a host ask questions and then let his guests answer.

[@ekmickley]

I love how articulate the host is compared to those of today. No sarcasm, no political digs, just pertinent and great facts

[@warmswarm]

@Paul Steinwall - Yeah but at least he can spell.

[@aliceruth4919]

“December 18, 1970: Lester Maddox walks off the show... Retiring Georgia governor Lester Maddox, appearing in a panel discussion with author Truman Capote and football great Jim Brown, walked off the show in the middle of a conversation about segregation. Cavett had made a reference to the "bigots" who had elected Maddox.”

[@okaminess]

But many hosts had extra no holds barred misogyny. I love the audio quality though and I agree with some of your points. :)

[@longfield0023]

@@okaminess I don't think this one did, from what I've seen. He seemed pretty intelligent.

[@bluegtturbo]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@GiftSparks]

No one interviews like Dick Cavett. He is respectful without being obsequious. I really feel that he put people at ease.

[@alukuhito]

Was he on drugs though?

[@ROCKINGMAN]

I like Dick Cavett too. I've read a lot negative things about him, but no, h'es an excellent interviewer, not over powering and stealing the show, polite, nice speaking voice, just a nice person.

[@stevesloan7132]

He exercised a sort of gentle civility that I quite like and respect.

[@petermartin7811]

I had to look up obsequious

[@QuadMochaMatti]

@@petermartin7811 Seriously, that's something to be commended for. I don't believe that most people would even bother these days - even though they often have, in essence, a complete library in the palm of their hand, and are quite content to remain ignorant.

[@discokev100]

Dick Cavett knew the art of holding a conversation with his guests. He was brilliant.

[@lewstone5430]

It was obvious that Cavett did his homework on his guests but his knowledge about them, in the form of questions or statements, never felt forced or hammy, simply delivered with class.

[@asareaddi950]

You should watch the Eddie Murphy interview or Richard Prior

[@pavankumar-ff9bo8zc5y]

Dee Disaster 🤦🏻‍♂️.

[@jamesmcinnis208]

I think he's still alive.

[@crochethappy3786]

That's because he is intelligent. The talk show hosts now are all about ratings with sensationalism and outward appearances. They act ridiculous and only care to make people laugh and support the narcissism and liberal viewpoints of their Hollywood guests. I grew up with Cavett and Tom Snyder and Merv Griffen and Mike Douglas. Even Johnny Carson and Phil Donohue... was intelligent. It all came from within. Now the host is chosen on the basis of popularity and how liberal and" out there they are"...And how they look, to draw the masses. I miss the 70's for that reason. My intellect was satisfied listening to men like Cavett interview his guests. It wasn't entertaining as much as thought provoking.

[@mguevarra61]

Looking at this, I'm so glad Sir Anthony Hopkins won the Lead Actor Oscar for "The Father". A truly consummate actor, capable of giving towering performances, in almost every single film he's been in. That, to me, is the definition of an Oscar-worthy actor!

[@kcjones679]

So unexpectedly young! I just hadn't pictured him at this time in his life.

[@testingbox2008]

I agree with Sir Anthony Hopkins being a remarkable actor, and I'd say one of the best actors ever, but you used the term "Oscar-worthy" which I dont like. The Oscars are by no means the measure of artistic excellence in Film, and the Academy has always been about politics and patronage, you could tell by great actors denied the Oscar, while unworthy Oscars handed out to actors who fit the agenda at any point in history

[@travisbickle4360]

@@testingbox2008 Which actor are you talking about? I know actresses category has a lot of controversy but Actor category has always held to the standard. Can you give any example?

[@adveniasabiana3803]

Agree!!! Even in his 80s still give the Oscar Worthy performance 🔥 Big respect for Sir Anthony Hopkins

[@princesspepita9586]

When I saw Hopkins in The Lion in Winter, even then as a teenager, I knew he would be among the greats. He stole the movie from Hepburn & O'Toole, and that's no easy thing to do. A heartbreaking, complex & beautiful performance I'll never forget.

[@HartmutJagerArt]

- Not wanting to diminish Hopkins - But No One ever 'Stole' a scene from Hepburn or O'Toole throughout their whole stellar careers !

[@kasession]

@@HartmutJagerArt I agree. Hopkins was good, but Hepburn and O'Toole were magnificent!!!

[@darrinwebber4077]

Sorry Princess... I disagree. I think whole cast if Lion In Winter did awesome performances. Great movie. Where every actor complimented their co-stars. It is a favorite film... I watch any time I get the chance. Respectfully... His Serene Lordship Rev. Darrin V. Webber King of Highguard

[@SlimKeith11]

Hopkins was in more bad movies than good ones in the 70s/80s. He had two decades of bad films then they finally began to improve in the 90s with better roles.

[@brandonginsburg3120]

A while back, I saw Lion in the Winter for the first time and was impressed by Hopkins's range in his role. I don't recall feeling that it was theatrical either. On a side note, great music and great sets (the film).

[@SN-sz7kw]

His interview with Kate Hepburn was remarkable. It was done on the fly when she came to check out the set.

[@jlnasseri4390]

These were the days of great and talented stars being interviewed without being interrupted and talked over by the host. Cavett was patient and giving in his interviews.

[@RobinaB530]

"These were the days of great interviews"......--enough with the nostalgia. There are plenty of good interviews these days too.

[@JohnRobie]

@@RobinaB530 But most certainly not on TV.

[@travisbickle4360]

@@JohnRobie Who watched TV these days. Its era youtube, Netflix podcasts. All you have to do is search on KZbin and belive there will be one or two hour interview which will never be possible on TV.

[@seanwilliams480]

Exactly why Conan lost The Tonight Show IMO. Conan comes across as a nice person, but he could never allow his guest to just have the spotlight for more than 30 seconds.

[@ShootMeMovieReviews]

A lot of it has to do with simple decorum, and also the fact that Cavett was genuinely interested, not just scheduling whoever's popular to plug whatever they're doing at the moment.

[@gabbyhyman1246]

I was fortunate to sit and chat with him once in Malibu. He's absolutely what you'd like to be when you grow up.

[@gcarrace]

Expound!

[@alukuhito]

In what way?

[@stevencoardvenice]

You'll see some characters once in a while in malibu. I remember being line with ed harris once to get a burger on PCH

[@AnyoneCanSee]

Hopkin's impression of Hepburn is also his Hannibal accent. Literally identical, so I googled it and he has been quoted saying he based the accent on Hepburn. Well, I'll never look at that the same again. It's fricken hilarious now.

[@reasonrestored9116]

Robert J. Williamson it’s the elongated vowels, I hear it now. Brilliant

[@ryancoulter4797]

She once ate Spencer Tracy’s liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti

[@shawna1365]

@@ryancoulter4797 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mazsroy9]

I could totally believe that! Hepburn IS Hannibal!

[@jolenaagapisou3803]

Mary-Ann Roy - Agreed, couldn’t stand her!!

[@pronkerpronker6708]

I love how Dick clarifies "Richard Burton ... the actor" in the beginning because there is another Richard Burton, the 19th cent. explorer and author and many other things. What a fine interviewer!.

[@lindas.martin2806]

Anthony Hopkins is so handsome in this interview, I have never seen him this young.

[@pattimaeda6097]

🤮

[@Junior_Rocky]

Watch a Lion in Winter. He is ten years younger then.

[@lindadavis3728]

@@pattimaeda6097" Irresistible: is the first word that comes to my mind.

[@vangogo6819]

My real name Is Linda too, I first noticed how gorgeous he was in the Elephant Man of all movies,lol. I went on to watch ANYTHING with him in it, of course he's also a very versatile, great actor and interviews well, no airs about him or phony attitude, just dignified but down to earth and my gosh those blue eyes....😍😍😍🤣🤣🤣

[@Hey___you]

The Lion in Winter is such a good movie. ❤️

[@neilltavernier4586]

Hopkins is just a wonderful person from all accounts and it comes through when being interviewed.

[@MarchHare2009]

Amazing to see an era when you could respect the people in Hollywood.

[@crochethappy3786]

yes, now its all so superficial.

[@williamwood5310]

I met Anthony Hopkins while employed as an extra in an Australian movie: Spotswood. He was a very friendly fellow -- very different from the Hollywood elite.

[@ryancusimano5892]

To be honest I’ve met several famous people and the nicest ones are usually the ones who have already made it. It’s the ones on their way up that tend to be nasty, not saying there aren’t exceptions though.

[@RealDapperDude]

He was just as civil and approachable when I was an extra on the last few episode of season two of Westworld. He sat with the extras at meals and spoke with us between scenes as he sat in a set-dressing rocking chair on the wooden sidewalk facing the main street (Melody Ranch, Santa Clarita, Calif).

[@phillipecook3227]

Couple of things. Both men have wonderful voices - I could listen to them discuss the price of eggs.

[@rasinshuriken]

Nani

[@SCharlesDennicon]

They sure aren't Jimmy Fallon or Seth Meyers.

[@jamesmcinnis208]

That's one thing...

[@RogerDDog]

Its easy to see why he was such a good host. He has a real charm and warmth about him.

[@jamesmcinnis208]

@@RogerDDog He uses his intelligence wisely and playfully.

[@denisepaul7274]

I heard Anthony Hopkins describe that talk about the camera with Katharine Hepburn in The Lion in Winter once before on The Actors Studio, I think. Imitating her voice, “You don’t like the Bread and Butter?” Hopkins being confused was like “What?” She repeated, “The Bread and Butter, the Bread and Butter. The camera.” Hopkins said that Hepburn explained that if you don’t play to the camera she would steal the scene. And then she went on to say, “I’ll steal all the scenes anyway, but you should at least try.”

[@impishsongster333]

You gotta love that Hepburn confidence, and good-natured teasing. 😄 There's an interview with Jane Fonda, about On Golden Pond. Katharine had 3 Oscars, Jane had 2. They were both nominated for On Golden Pond. If Jane wins, they're both tied at 3. But, Katharine won, and the day after she called Jane and said, "Now you'll never catch me!" 😆😆 Jane laughed, then, and during the interview. Hepburn's sense of humor was something else too.♥️

[@brendaannedufaur6244]

Anthony Hopkins is so gorgeous and charming here. And the accent is so beautiful. He and Richard Burton had/have the most beautiful accents.

[@agnesdeangelis4297]

and James Mason

[@sfuterfas]

Totally hot! He still is, even at 83. So sexy!

[@photo161]

Of course, fans of Hepburn's like ourselves, are delighted to learn from the great Anthony Hopkins that she is even more remarkable a person than we might have imagined her to be.

[@echopathy]

Smooth factor is off the charts between these two. Smart and careful with their words.

[@richardeast3328]

Just like to friends having a casual conversation.

[@alicemi4155]

@@richardeast3328 Two friends having a casual conversation are not careful with their words.

[@richardeast3328]

@@alicemi4155 Depends on the circumstances Sherlock.

[@gardensofthegods]

Well I feel you're both right ... if you've ever seen two friends who are intellectuals who really appreciate each other and try to always be their best and up their game even if nobody else is watching that's what this reminds me of ... always the best foot forward like a gentleman's club

[@jenlambie14]

Congratulations Anthony on your wonderful, Academy award winning work on The Father. So deserved!

[@lisalindsey277]

See "The Lion in Winter" and he's 10 years younger than he is here. 1968. I have loved Anthony Hopkins since then.

[@Sensorium19]

Great film and a great role for him.

[@vangogo6819]

Great actor, great voice and so nice looking ( I don't mean to sound superficial but I have always found him to be extremely handsome and not in a conceited way). Linda(vangogo).

[@GiftSparks]

@@vangogo6819 Agree -- totally! He is also a gifted mimic. When the film Spartacus was re-released, there were deleted several scenes with Lawrence Olivier that were added back. Since Olivier had already passed way, Anthony Hopkins dubbed in his dialogue. During Olivier's lifetime, Hopkins had often amused him with his imitations.

[@stevencoardvenice]

I had to watch that movie in 10th grade in the 90s. I remember Hopkins was in it. And peter o'toole was a jerk

[@lisalindsey277]

@Bilbo Baggins I agree! MAGIC came out in 1978, the same year this interview took place. AUDREY ROSE cane out in 1977.

[@missjennystevens]

Do you know what I love the most about these old interviews? The fact that someone can take their time formulating a question or an answer, with none of the fear that the other person will jump in prematurely and cut them off with their response. We seem to do it so often these days in conversation, and it's so very lovely to see a dialogue completely devoid of that. I wish we could slow down these days and allow that space in a conversation.

[@edhorton2766]

Good listening skills are critical to almost everything, yet are in serious decline.

[@danielbiasoni7269]

I love how calm and nice-paced this interview is and most of them were back in the day without all the fuzz and whatnots from today's

[@teslah2997]

wow....young Anthony Hopkins looks very much like Michail Baryshnikov!

[@cricrijobim]

how funny, U just wrote the same thing here haha, Just saw your comment

[@gcmc2gcmc279]

Yeah.. but he looks like someone else too...just can't put my finger on it.

[@melvern946]

@@gcmc2gcmc279 I think he looks a bit like Alan Alda when younger!!!! In his mannerisms too! Think M*A*S*H!

[@paulnodalo9130]

Sir Anthony Hopkins The greatest actor of all time.He surpassed Sir Lawrence Olivier.

[@marysueeasteregg]

@@melvern946 More like Baryshnikov to me . . . but I can see why you said Alda.

[@THEremiXFACTOR]

Notice the audience is mostly just listening respectfully, instead of whooping and whistling nonstop.

[@mdgsk824]

That genuinely ruins some interviews and throws the guest off

[@missjuanita5804]

@@mdgsk824 I agree with both of you - so refreshing.

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

They didn’t used to let the rabble in back in those days - everyone knew their place.

[@ashleighjaimaosborne3966]

Heightened respect and manners was evident in those decades.

[@kennethwayne6857]

Another time entirely.

[@duncansmith8992]

As a proud Englishman, I love Welsh Anthony Hopkins. A brilliant actor..and a great human being.

[@RogerDDog]

My favourite scene in Lion in Winter.... Miss Hepburn as Eleanor having taunted Henry (Peter O''Toole) that she slept with his father as he roars with the pain of his imagination, pushes Eleanor aside as he exits. Eleanor slumps to the floor and lying there on one elbow pushes her hair out of her teary eyes with the other, she slowly growls the wonderful very un-medieval line in her inimitable growl (actually I can do it)... "Well doesn't every family have its ups and downs!" It slays me every time!

[@mathandsciencereboot2662]

Peter O'Toole, Katherine Hepburn and Anthony Hopkins in one film. Oh my, my film education is so incomplete. I hope I can watch the film.

[@Djm8520]

It’s in my top 10 all-time greatest films.

[@margeshilling7983]

TCM runs it once in a while. It's great and well worth your time.

[@thomast8539]

It is a great film...the writing and acting are top notch.

[@heathcotepursuit8]

Hepburn got an Oscar for the Lion in Winter, in which she and O'Toole dominate . The other actors are basically moons to their respective suns. Incidentally it was O'Toole's second outing as Henry II having played the role opposite Richard Burton as Becket. Both great films but Lion in Winter is the greater I think.

[@bwsmyhero]

You won’t regret the time you spend watching it. Marvelous film. And the screenplay is so good that, as spoken by those wonderful actors, the words become the action. Such a literate, intelligent movie.

[@lass-inangeles7564]

Two greats! Both so handsome and intelligent. Dick Cavett was a regular on my TV screen years ago. Wonderful interviews, relaxed, brought out the best in his guests, shared stories, and the guest warmed up to his decency. No nasty revelations, no shock tactics, never made his guest uncomfortable, and never rushed them. This is the right way to do it. Class act. Anthony Hopkins - handsome man, and what an actor!

[@TonyEnglandUK]

I would trust Anthony Hopkins with my life - and that trust would be based entirely on his smile.

[@josephgriffin2388]

There is no replacing actors who've been on stage, and done it successfully. It may be a tough transition, but actors like Hopkins, Hepburn, O'toole pull it off so wonderfully. Cavett is such a gracious host.

[@snoookie456]

To hear him speak is so interesting. He sinks deep into his roles and finding out the real person always seems so surreal... He's one of the very few actors that can give such believable performances, you really couldn't tell he is his actual own self.

[@hardingtess42]

Thanking God for having lived through the period when Dick Cavett had his wonderful talk show and did interviews with some of the most fascinating people on the planet. Anthony Hopkins superb actor with a gorgeous voice at all stages of his career.

[@noelnicholls1894]

They talk of others, not themselves.

[@crochethappy3786]

Im so thankful I can relive those days with YT. Its not the same world today where celebrities are treated as idols by talk show hosts, buttering up their egos and encouraging others to do the same. No more good role models for kids. Cavett was about the mind not the image. Conversation is not important any more. Only the building up of the ego.

[@crochethappy3786]

@@noelnicholls1894 very true

[@tomwyllie8027]

Back in the day I did everything in my power to not miss an episode of The Dick Cavett show. He did not just interview celebrities but had very controversial guests opposing the Vietnam War. At one point the Nixon White House forced him to interview a government spokesman without having an opponent to debate him. It did not go well for the government mouthpiece.

[@mebefore9103]

Wow, I'd like to see that interview!

[@vangogo6819]

I loved him, he used to have some cool bands on there too and Janis Joplin was a frequent guest.

[@crochethappy3786]

I watched him as a teen. He was such an intellect it stimulated my need for intellectual conversation- although I didn't know it at the time. He is a very deep thinker which is why he probably struggled with depression. Most brilliant minds do. His thoughts were always one step ahead of his guests. I found him fascinating...the type you could spend hours talking to...a very complex mind..

[@crochethappy3786]

@@vangogo6819 Janis felt so comfortable with him. You could tell.

[@vangogo6819]

@@crochethappy3786 Absolutely, which meant a lot because she was usually nervous and self-conscious around others when speaking on talk shows, I remember too well how so many people were cruel and made mean remarks about her. The woman was a brilliant entertainer and musician, had massive creativity and was highly intelligent, that's what scared so many brain dead people back then.

[@kersylke]

AND HE LOVES CATS!!! What else can I say? He won my heart.

[@mazsroy9]

That in itself is reason enough!

[@SpaceCattttt]

I AM a cat, kersyl. You can start loving me as soon as you're ready.

[@lorrainechandler7864]

He posts videos on his Facebook page with his cat named Niblo.

[@julianwaugh968]

All the best people do. Dogs are for insecure people who need constant adoration.

[@---rv3ys]

Me too. They taste like chicken!

[@annalee6376]

He's iconic and humble... An enigma 💜🇨🇦

[@chatryna]

In today's hostile world, Cavett is so soothing.

[@georgeadcock2347]

Absolutely.

[@anro2697]

Somehow the fact that not every line is a joke is very pleasant.

[@RonnieGorotto]

His voice is soothing in any era.

[@Frankenputer]

That was the secret of his success.

[@TheEchovoices]

i agree things were so much calmer back in the day, ppl had more time everything now is tech-NO-logic

[@paololuckyluke2854]

His imitation of Hepburn was perfect!

[@sickkat5910]

I was an extra in "Bram Stoker's Dracula" and had the great pleasure to enjoy a cup of coffee with Mr. Hopkins at the craft table during break... a true gentleman!

[@somethingyousaid5059]

Katharine the Great _and_ Peter the Great. Yeah, I can imagine it _was_ a baptism by fire alright.

[@houseagent111]

So proud of this mans ability to create. One of the most creative actors of all time. Great man in so many ways. Tks Anthony!

[@jomama5186]

Dick Cavett is so cool. I love his calming nature! Just a really chill guy. I love the story about his house, how it burnt down and he had it rebuilt identical to the one he lost. It's in an absokutely beautiful area too. I would love to find a documentary on his life. Such a neat man. Love his sense of humor.

[@vangogo6819]

He was like a human Capybara, even had the same hair color,lol.

[@crochethappy3786]

He was so humble and introspective. I hope he is doing well. A shame he ever had to go off the air. although I doubt now he could interview any "famous " celebrities. They have little depth. He is one of my favorites

[@vangogo6819]

@@crochethappy3786 I'm not sure if he is even alive anymore, last time I saw a picture of him he was very old.

[@johnwatson3948]

A couple of years after this interview I was sitting with Hopkins and a camera crew in a prop Rolls Royce - all trying to keep warm on the freezing location of a Bo Derek movie in Vermont. We talked for a few minutes - one of the most modest and friendly people I’ve met.

[@j.p.9522]

That is awesome!

[@forgottenpalace4472]

Hopkins was so adorable when he was young.

[@reasonrestored9116]

Not really, he was an alcoholic and a pain in the ass, by his own admission.

[@forgottenpalace4472]

@@reasonrestored9116 Still gorgeous, though.

[@windsordawn]

I loved his style. He actually let his guests speak.

[@tenofivelips]

The Lion in Winter is one of my favorite movies. Grateful to hear these behind the scene tid bits.

[@themermaidstale5008]

tenofive Timothy Dalton plays King Philip of France. He was so handsome. Who knew that 1700 years later he was really James Bond.

[@tadimaggio]

Just after "The Lion in Winter" hit the theaters in 1968, Carol Burnett was asked, by one of the questioners on her TV show, "Which young actors do you particularly like?" She replied "Well, I just saw this new film, 'The Lion in Winter',, where Peter O'Toole and Katharine Hepburn gave performances that knocked me out of my seat. But there was a new actor with them, whom I'd never seen before, named Anthony Hopkins. He plays Richard the Lionheart, and made a strong impression on me; and anyone who can register when they're playing opposite O'Toole and Hepburn has GOT to have something. I think we're going to hear a lot more from that young man." I've always respected Carol for responding to a new talent that quickly.

[@shahbazsheikh3545]

"Magic" was an amazing film.. hugely underrated.

[@colossusforbin5484]

I agree. One of my favorite horror/thrillers that seems 'forgotten' even though it was quite a big release back in 1978. One of Jerry Goldsmith's best scores. Most think of 'Hannibal Lecter' when they see Anthony Hopkins. I always think of 'Corky Withers'. Magic was the first movie I saw him in.

[@moderoy]

I would say it has a few exceptional scenes.

[@radar0412]

It was my introduction to Hopkins.

[@tommonk7651]

I saw it in the theater. Freaked me out....

[@Yngsatchvai]

I just remember the preview coming on before a movie and scaring me.to death around 6yrs old..

[@MidwestGirl]

I absolutely ADORE Anthony Hopkins. And he's become even more handsome as he's gotten older.

[@purplehazerunnerx]

I don't know if it's just me or does he kinda looks like Jason Stadham? Adorabe..

[@melissa007ish]

Eh, really?

[@psychotictactoe]

Cavett was a superb interviewer, a bit awkward but honest questions, he made people feel at ease quickly.

[@carolking6355]

Anthony Hopkins never changed with that glorious voice.❤️

[@globalman]

This was delightful to discover, thank you. Although I live in Europe I grew up in NY and Dick Cavett was very much part of my young adult experience. He was a very intelligent man who sometimes could bring out the best or most interesting aspects of his guests. He was very respected by many, hence the legendary two night interview with Katharine Hepburn. His was the most respectable of its genre and he never went for sensationalism. I knew Anthony Hopkins during a couple of years in LA early 1970's but never discussed show business with him. He was a very soft spoken, kind and gentle man who never acted like a star or celebrity. He may have been in Hollywood but did not behave like the majority of "Hollywood" celebrities of the modern period. Most of the legendary leading and supporting men and women of the Silver Screen had the same work ethic as he describes of Katharine. Loy, Davis, Crawford, Grant etc. I also met Hepburn on a couple of occasions. I mention this because of the story Anthony told about her. The first time I met her was at Saks 5th Avenue Beverly Hills and she was looking at silk scarves for her niece. She was dressed in Khaki, sandals, no make-up, her wonderful freckles in full display and a handbag with long strap slung over her shoulder. I was looking at some scarves and I glanced at her noticing her watching me. I was pondering two scarves and gave her a questioning look, she asked who is it for, I said my grandmother, "what is her colouring" I said fair skin, honey blonde hair and blue eyes and said no not that one it does not suit, rejected the other than saw one and said very succinctly, "that one will do fine. I smiled a bit nervously as she was really formidable and purchased that scarf which ultimately my grandmother loved. The sales women showed Katharine a couple of scarves for her niece and she just waved them away and said in a definite voice "NO INTEREST" and continued her search. I thanked her and said goodbye. She looked at me sternly and said "you're a good grandson". I never forgot that because she was not impolite but she simply had no patience to waste time. She knew what she wanted and didn't want. I later encountered her in another situation at her home with my mother who was a personal manager and had a client Miss Hepburn wanted to do a film with. She

[@guenady9267]

I'm a Hepburn fan--. Finish thé story, please!

[@IrishEyes1989]

What a story! I giggled as I read how she took over the scarf selection and made the decision for you without asking your opinion LOL. That's just so her! Did you tell your grandma that Katharine Hepburn helped you pick out her scarf? If I were your gran, I'd have designated that scarf a family heirloom! The "No interest" bit too, so funny. I might try that line out myself at some point. Just cut to the chase and skip the forced pleasantries with salespeople. It reminds me of the way she just got up and left at the end of her own Dick Cavett interview, which was hysterical to watch. Once she made up her mind about something, she just did it. No hesitation. God, what a woman. Also, we must know how the second story ends!

[@krissmgvlogs]

I was introduced to Anthony Hopkins in The Elephant Man. Great movie !!

[@bholaoates1542]

Maybe one of the 5 greatest movies I've seen in my 62 years. Still brings tears to my eyes sometimes even *thinking* about it.

[@colossusforbin5484]

Magic for me. The first R rated movie I saw in the theater.

[@davejones5747]

He was the best John Hurt ever.

[@rasinshuriken]

Q

[@TheRowlandstone73]

Outstanding film and a brilliant portrayal of Frederick Treves by Hopkins. I really hope Treves was as nice, compassionate and caring as Sir Anthony played him.

[@RL-ck8zk]

Splendid actor!

[@guessmyname6210]

I've had a crush on Anthony Hopkins for years. He's such a great actor.

[@TheTroystreet]

It’s easy to forget that an old person was once young when you’ve only known that person in their old age.

[@texasred2702]

As do we all.

[@upthedown1]

When I think of Anthony Hopkins I always see him as he was in Lion in Winter. I could listen to him speak all day. He and of course Richard Burton.

[@Dr_Mel]

So apparently, Hopkins has been described as "elderly" for going on 42 years now lol

[@cromartie1984]

dick cavett looked old too

[@Danimal77]

He was 40 years old during this interview. It aired in early November 1978 (meaning it was filmed earlier) and he was born in late December 1937.

[@stevencramsie9172]

People just looked older back then. The hair, makeup and lifestyle aged a person pretty quickly. I'd like to think we're all younger than our parents were at the same age.

[@RebeccaStropoli]

@@stevencramsie9172 Hopkins' face here actually looks quite young/boyish.

[@debrajessen7975]

Rebecca Stropoli Ya, but really, I’m surprised he hasn’t changed that much at all.

[@Joggelschorsch]

So great to listen in to this conversation. More interviews should be like this, again

[@joeanimalskull4243]

Thanks for uploading this! He's a such wonderful actor, and it's nice to see him when he was younger.

[@AxelQC]

The Lion in Winter is my favorite film of all time. I've seen it a dozen times at least.

[@visualonestudio]

It's so strange so see Anthony Hopkins so young.

[@thomstephens]

“Yes, I’ve done Broadway before, nice to meet you. Good night!” Lol!!

[@cbcdesign001]

I like Dick Cavett. He could teach the modern so called talk show host how an interview should be conducted. He lets the guests speak. To many today like the sound of their own voice too much and think they should be the centre of attention.

[@catofthecastle1681]

Do you really think it’s the host’s fault!?? How imbecilic of you! It is the network’s fault for pushing them so hard so more commercials can be shown! I’m quite sure many talk show hosts would love to ask honest insightful questions but they don’t have enough time with all the advertising that has to be shown!

[@cbcdesign001]

@@catofthecastle1681 There is no need to be rude to people just because you have something to say. Yes I do think its the hosts fault. Modern talk show hosts often have an inflated sense of their own importance when audiences want to hear what the guests have to say. Its good guests that make a good talk show and that makes them more popular with bigger rewards for advertisers. Even if time is short it just makes sense to get as much from the guest they are paying for as they can.

[@bearforceone689]

So odd seeing Anthony Hopkins with a Beatles haircut - lol - can't get enough of Katherine Hepburn stories- Hepburn, Hopkins and Peter O'Toole are all Legends.

[@christiananderson4909]

He and Hepburn are the best parts of Lion in Winter.

[@TheEchovoices]

I LOVE this man he always reminded me of two ppl Richard Burton, & Mikhail Baryshnikov

[@sherlockholmesfan]

Is it me or is he so irresistibly cute

[@forgottenpalace4472]

Incredibly cute.

[@purselmer5931]

It's you.

[@pattimaeda6097]

It’s you 🙄🤮

[@StephanieJ777]

Which one?

[@bluetv6386]

We can't see you so we can't say if it is you who is so irresistibly cute...

[@joannietrotter2344]

Anthony Hopkins is so effortlessly elegant.

[@jondunmore4268]

He seems like such a quiet, introverted man. You'd never think he eats people.

[@marilyn6979]

that's funny!

[@travel200899]

😂😂😂

[@themermaidstale5008]

That’s also what neighbors say about convicted serial killers. But that’s funny, right there, that is.

[@elbecko7969]

I remember watching a documentary about him years and years ago. He was a recluse back then, living by himself in a beach front house in Wales, leaving only to appear in films. He'd lived like that most of his adult life. Then he had some kind of an epiphany in later years and made himself get out and be with people.

[@dianecaldwell1831]

Hopkins or Cavett?

[@progressiverockvocal]

I did not realize until seeing many old tapes how good Dick Cavett was.

[@paulclemens7953]

That's about the age he was when I got to know him. He was starring in and directing an L.A. production of 'Equus' which he'd recently done on Broadway. A delightful, complex, and prodigiously talented man.

[@missmayflower]

So nice to just focus on the guest with no loud music or audience hyping.

[@therealzilch]

It's refreshing to see that such intelligence once existed on American television.

[@lauramalek3128]

Saw this lovely gent in Audrey Rose (pre-"Magic", but not by much), and I've been hooked ever since. Anyone who hasn't seen Magic, btw....he learned magic and ventriloquism for the role! Holy SMOKES, talk about dedication to a role.

[@mykel1990]

Wow, he was really handsome.

[@pattimaeda6097]

🤮

[@jamesmcinnis208]

Careful what you say around Patti Maeda. She's jealous because he's prettier than she is.

[@Puglitz]

@@jamesmcinnis208 Haha, no doubt

[@arnie3631]

He still looks the same, only with less hair now

[@lisalorenzo225]

He still is 😽

[@inamorata966]

Can you imagine! Fresh off the stage, first feature film, and you're with Hepburn and O'Toole. Man-oh-man!

[@narrowgate528]

Pre-Lecter. Magic was one of the best creepy movies I have ever seen; I’m sure Anthony’s performance in it was instrumental in his being chosen as Hannibal. Anthony sounded like Hannibal when he imitated Katherine Hepburn; he actually used her voice when developing Hannibal’s. It was eerie to hear it here, long before Silence of the Lambs.

[@oldladybird8528]

It was a strange movie

[@matthewfountainmusic]

"Anthony Hopkins On Katharine Hepburn's Passion and Graciousness" There I fixed it. Great interview!

[@kweejibodali3078]

i love this guy... i was too young too appreciate him at that time, but am thrilled to see him interviewing people

[@lizofthelake4904]

Anthony is so handsome and charming.

[@marcomanino8884]

The voice he uses in Silence of the Lambs is based on Katherine Hepburn.

[@WithBACON]

Partly Hepburn, partly HAL 9000. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4OtaZZ3fNJpgKc

[@cerebrumexcrement]

actually, this interview was before silence of the lambs. so technically, he used his katherine hepburn voice for silence of the lambs. lol

[@marcomanino8884]

Poop Brain that’s what I said.

[@sicklygreyfoot]

@@cerebrumexcrement That's what he said, lol.

[@steerpike66]

@@WithBACON and a bit of Truman Capote

[@Lynnefromlyn]

He was such a beautiful young man. Great actor.

[@TheMoonchild1969]

Arguably my favorite actor...what a guy.🌹

[@janetwentz3259]

I absolutely love Sir Anthony Hopkins ❤️

[@hanorabrennan8846]

What a handsome devil he was. As for that voice ........ Swoon!

[@pattimaeda6097]

🤮

[@jamesmcinnis208]

Yes, but angry lesbians like Patti Maeda might respond to your comment with hostility. Oh look... yep, she did.

[@ethelryan257]

@@pattimaeda6097 Dude, what is your problem?

[@gcmc2gcmc279]

Of course he knew his effect on women by then ...probably never expected it initially !

[@FreeSpirit47]

I never knew who the earlier actresses were when people spoke of them. Because of this video, I looked up Audrey Hepburn, Katharine Hepburn. Found that the 2 are not related or very distant if at all. Then I looked up Elizabeth Taylor, Lauren Bacall, plus a few others. The only actress from such an earlier time that I knew a lot about was Marilyn Monroe. I studied Marilyn's life for several years. I had an uncle who was ancient & he had actually met her, spent a bit of time with her. She let him borrow a book of hers, she died before he could get it back to her. In the book was a lock of Marilyn's hair that she had clipped off, taped together on one end, attached to it is a small piece of paper with the date she cut it from her hair & something kinda scribbled, I can't tell what it says. My uncle gave the book to me with the lock of hair in it. I treasure it!

[@roder51]

Anthony Hopkins Is one of America's greatest imports and we need them now more than ever.

[@zl1David]

His character in "Magic" in that same year was portrayed masterfully as one very disturbed man

[@dianem8254]

As a young 12-13 yes old teenager in the 60's I used to sneak out of bed when everyone was asleep just to watch this gorgeous articulate man. Loved him & yes where are men like these today!?!?

[@pegasus514]

dead.

[@wendajones9040]

The lion in winter is a fantastic film! And Anthony Hopkins is a real favourite !

[@michaelriley2]

This was a time when america was intelligent.

[@fazole]

I used to fly a lot until a few years ago. I've had a 100 interesting conversations with fellow passengers. There are still many, many intelligent people out there, but most don't watch TV.

[@Blimpio]

This was a time when intelligent Americans were allowed on television. Its easy to deride a entire population by what you see in the media, but its just as much of a misnomer to assume the media nowadays represent or reflect the population.

[@janisbell1947]

Michael Riley so sad it's not like that anymore.

[@duncansmith8992]

Michael Riley America is still intelligent. The problem is a lot of very noisy Far Left/ Far Right idiots drowning out the normal people. Same as in Britain.

[@jamesmcinnis208]

America has confused intelligence with pretentiousness.

[@truthbknown4957]

Anthony Hopkins is such a versatile actor. I wish there was a cable channel that showed nothing but Anthony Hopkins movies. I would be watching it now.

[@tinderbox218]

What a civilized conversation, instead of the shallow bullshit that passes for celebrity interviews and the callow audiences these days.

[@nhmooytis7058]

Tony was so young! I first saw him as Richard the Lion Hearted in The Lion in Winter, and then QB VII. So after being a fan for over 50 years I enjoyed seeing him back in the day!

[@Madmen604]

Handsome guy, fabulous voice and acting. Love him. He floats every film he is in.

[@nyleah411]

Such a CRUSH on Anthony Hopkins and scared of him at the same time. CLARICE.

[@herrklamm1454]

That is a serious shirt collar.

[@QuadMochaMatti]

*Disco-era a e s t h e t i c*

[@EphemeralProductions]

That was the style in the 70s. :)

[@herrklamm1454]

tall32guy Cheers for the history lesson my man.

[@mp5249]

@@EphemeralProductions no, that's small for the 70s.

[@Junior_Rocky]

I remember these shirts well.