How to Install a Smart Heating System THAT SAVES YOU MONEY

In this guide I will show you how to install a smart heating system! We will be installing the Drayton Wiser Smart Heating System and I will walk you through the process step by step so that you will be able to do the job yourself. If you like the video, then please subscribe to see more!
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[@TheDIYGuy1]

Winter videos are back! What other how to guides do you want this winter?

[@aperturescience2]

A heat pump please

[@TheDIYGuy1]

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[@therealdojj]

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[@mikeedwards7173]

Hi Cameron. Two queries; 1. What happens if the internet goes down. 2. If the battery fails on one or more TVRs?

[@TonyWhitley]

1. Then you can't control it away from your house. The system itself works through its own radio network in the house. 2. The batteries last about a year and you get notifications when they are going flat.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

@@TonyWhitleygreat replies. Very helpful for everyone 👍

[@tm2204]

1. The Wser system works over it's own Zigbee wireless network which means the system will work even when your internet is down. 2. Depending on how often the TRV actuates will determine battery life. Typically well over 1 year. You can see the battery status (as well as signal strength) of any TRV from the 'Devices' option in the app and the app will also send a notification to your phone if the batteries run out or if the TRV loses connection to the hub (out of range). The range issue can be solved by using a 'smart plug' which also acts as a Zigbee range extender for the system.

[@richard_in_rayleigh]

I'm not convinced this is a DIY job. My head hurt by the end of the video and I'm nifty with electrics. 😮

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Brilliant advice for people. Thanks for sharing

[@adzg4m1ng85]

I always love these videos. '"Easy diy install". Not the easiest job if you have a house full of archaic 80's half seized lockshield valves on all your rads like me. Dead easy if you're lucky enough to have shiny modern trv's on a recently installed system.

[@jayseabie215]

Buying endless batteries to control your TRV's for the rest of your life. Hmmm.

[@TonyWhitley]

It's annoying that it can't use rechargeable batteries but they last a year or more.

[@tm2204]

The control you gain over your heating system more than makes up for having to replace cheap AA batteries once every 18 months or so. You can effectively zone off your home every which way and group different 'zones' together into what are called Moments which you can toggle on/off at the touch of a button on the app. You will save a lot of money using this Wiser system.

[@raycollington4310]

Given all the stuff pushed into our lives these days, you make a good point.

[@rodgerq]

​@@TonyWhitleywhy can't you use rechargeable batteries?

[@TonyWhitley]

I think the voltage isn't high enough unless you buy really expensive rechargeable batteries.

[@mattygiggity]

Must be great being mates with you, upgrading peoples heating systems so you can make videos! I'm buying a 1930's house if you fancy renovating the whole thing 🤣

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Haha yeah you’re right to be fair! 😂

[@abdullahX001]

It will take about 10 years for me to make back the investment on one of these systems... I'll just stick to the dumb thermostat

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Fair haha

[@MarkTimberlake]

Not if you use them for individual rooms in a large house, think individual zones per room. You only have to heat the room you are in.

[@abdullahX001]

@@MarkTimberlake I don't have a large house - that was the point.

[@DryUrEyesMate]

I think your missing the whole point of this gadget 😂

[@abdullahX001]

@@DryUrEyesMate the title says "…saves you money", my point is that it will take me 10 years to see that saving. Do you have some difficulty connecting the dots?

[@northernhelix4480]

i have this system, and it has had its issues but controlling it from my phone makes it easy. one suggestion is to add geofencing via ifttt. its free and there are settings already, you can simple click and add. it means when you leave your house, the system goes into away mode, so you dont have to do it manually. once you arrive home it goes out of away mode and the heating will continue to be set to room temps and heat schedule.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Good point there 😃

[@robert.wigley]

Add it to Home Assistant and the world's your oyster.

[@johnadams1976]

A really cheap option for smart control is also to pop a Sonoff minil2 on the live/switched live to the thermostat in the wiring centre. Let's you get rid of the wall thermostat entirely. Can combine with a temperature sensor in Home Assistant... You can then control heating from any mobile/tablet/wall panel, home or away... And use in automations... Ie auto turn off heating when everyone leaves the house etc.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Thanks for sharing 😃👍

[@amazing451]

All that wiring doesn't look the easiest to me.

[@MartynDews]

Thanks for the great video. I've been looking for a smart heating system for some time and settled on the Wiser system to add to my combi boiler however I have been a little unsure about the installation but your video clears this up plus the 40% off code is hard to resist. I don't have a standard wiring unit as you had in your video but the feed from the boiler just goes to the standard RST1 stat unit that you must have seen loads of. It has a permanent 240V feed with a call for heat connection too. Looking at the wiring diagram it looks like the one channel hub unit will just replace the stat as long as pin 3 has a link to feed 240V. Other than that, it looks pretty straightforward. Thanks for sharing.

[@garstangterrier501]

Great video! I have the exact same setup - same stats and same boiler so should be a very easy job. Quick question that may know - the 3rd pipe has a red return valve on? What should that be set to? Can't find answers anywhere.

[@jasone205]

Drayton wiser is a great system, I sold my very old Honeywell unit and thermostat on ebay and nearly paid for buying this (without TRVs) new. So far i haven't upgraded to TRV, but nice to be able to use Alexa to control the heating and switch on and off away from home

[@bertbox69]

Just one question DIYGuy, I set up the hive system but haven't invested in wireless TRVs yet because I still wouldn't be able to heat the upstairs alone when I needed to because of the rule about one rad(currently our lounge rad), can't have a TRV on it. I would always be heating the lounge unnecessarily if I wanted to warm the upstairs. What's the solution?

[@zetec1601]

Installed one of these as a replacement to a MiGeni system from same company due to cloud update. However it would not connect unless I was a metre away from the hub. Despite numerous hours with the helpdask I had to return it and opt for a Hive system which connected and worked straight out of the box. So not as clear cut as first sold.

[@SheardTV1]

I installed the Honeywell Evohome system. The Rolls Royce of eco thermostats.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

I’ve not done one of those. Thanks

[@robert.wigley]

Nope. Wrong! This is the best you can buy, especially when coupled to Home Assistant.

[@nocode1603]

Just fitted a tado v3+ wired smart room stat 👌

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Nice work

[@raycollington4310]

Thanks, I’ve just taken a Drayton & Zhender thermostat off to measure are compare. The open & closed dimensions are the same 20 & 15mm. They fit each others valves and work fine. As a DIYer I assumed each manufacturer did their own thing. Seems there is a standard. Thanks

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Anytime 👍

[@TonyWhitley]

I did this a couple of years ago, the difference is that the wiring was a rat's nest of chocolate blocks floating in mid air behind a wooden panel and I had to work out how it all worked from first principles 🤬 I labelled all the wires and fitted them in a WAGO mBox L32 Wiring Centre Junction. The Wiser system has been faultless since 👍

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Yeah that’s a pain! Sounds like you got it sorted ✔️

[@raycollington4310]

I'm slightly confused about TRV compatibility and these radiator control units fitting onto existing radiator TRV valve bodies. Are we saying there are international standards and any stat can be fitted to any valve ? I can't believe life is this straightforward. Sorry for being thick.

[@112Haribo]

most manufacturors have their own valve system, but the smart themostat brands like the one in the video, or Tado, make adaptors to make it fit.

[@the_wilkini]

Done this myself in August and its not as scary as I thought and had put off since March! Just needed extra TRVs and your 40% off code was awesome saved me £90 :)

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Nice work!

[@jsouto77]

You forgot to test neutral and live to ground .

[@Stebo1212]

Great video iv had a hive system for about 4 years now the money saved was CRAZY good shocked not many people i know use them

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Thanks for sharing

[@robinnicholas9042]

Its one of them things i wont personally touch id rather pay someone to come do it then i wont get blaimed when the heating dont work 😂

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Haha fair enough!

[@AshSmith95]

I wish technology that connects to the internet would stop being referred to as 'smart' as there is nothing smart about that. I assume that the connection to the boiler is existing on/off connections which just turns the boiler on to full rate when a heating demand is called? A 'smart' thermostat would use the OpenTherm connections in the boiler to actually communicate the needs and modulate the boiler to make it more efficient and actually help to save you money and, more importantly, more comfortable in your own home...

[@robert.wigley]

It supports OpenTherm and does weather compensation!

[@AshSmith95]

@@robert.wigley I'm sure it does, but it is not highlighted in the video, as you would have had to wire it into the boiler differently. My point is, better education is required on this topic. Connecting it to the internet can offer some features that will benefit the homeowner and potentially save them money, but a load compensating boiler will work much more efficiently more of the time and keep you much more comfortable 🤷

[@willmitchell255]

Double gang surface box and connectors? Poor You should have used a custom designed wiring centre like Wago.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Except I didn’t install the wiring centre 😂

[@willmitchell255]

@@TheDIYGuy1 We know ! What has been installed isn't a wiring centre.

[@MarkTimberlake]

We are running 17 radiators with this system, worked out it pays for itself in 12 to 18 months, now we can completely heat individual rooms (you don’t need the room themostats). Saves money as you can heat the room you are using and set times and temps for each room. Gives you total heating control.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Brilliant, thanks for sharing 👍

[@Tracdooor]

I thought messing with TRVs is how you end up with a load of air in the system / unbalanced radiators

[@MarkTimberlake]

@@Tracdooor You are not touching the pipes in the heating (you don't need to drain the system etc), just the controls for the heating on each radiator, so you are just taking the existing old fashioned trv and replacing it with a new Smart trv.

[@Jim-nm1en]

I got lost off when you exposed that mass of wires at the start. 🤣🤣

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Haha! I understand it can look a little scary!

[@chrisheald6897]

Smart video for a smart system! Another great one.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Glad you think so!

[@mikelacey9384]

Just how many trades are you competent in ?

[@TheDIYGuy1]

I get by 😉 cheers

[@RF_Grinch]

Got this one myself. Preffered my old tado to be honest. Really dont like the app on this.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Thanks for sharing

[@robert.wigley]

Connect it to Home Assistant. You won't look back.

[@cookiemonster2299]

Wow that was impressive 👏👏❤️🇬🇧

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Glad you liked it 😁

[@mattbandura9015]

Problem with all your videos is that you never disclose if this is paid promotion/ ad/ was there any money exchanged? did you get it for free? This makes every video look just like long advert as you never say anything bad about the product

[@TheDIYGuy1]

There is a tag displayed at the start of the sponsored videos that says it’s a sponsored video. On videos that aren’t sponsored, you won’t see this displayed.

[@darrenevans1572]

I’m fairly sure I saw a tag at the start of this video fella. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mattbandura9015]

@@TheDIYGuy1 "paid promotion" is not clear, you could state what was the arrangement at the beginning of every video and be more transparent

[@martinsylvester1823]

@@mattbandura9015 Personally I do not care...you try doing a channel and earn a living at the same time, what matters is he produces quality content easy to follow and uses tools and products that he has often tried and tested. Its not a political party broadcast about his income or sponsorships.

[@xen_idk]

@@mattbandura9015 Barking up the wrong tree, you want to be taking it up with Google; it's their TOS.

[@ParamjitSingh-i1h]

Very good job wonderful

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Pete.Ty1]

👍👍👍Great info. Thanks

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Glad it was helpful!

[@coolmonkey619]

How do you get your knowledge

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Years of practice and learning from good people

[@robert.wigley]

KZbin and the Internet like anyone else that can be bothered to learn anything. It's all out there.

[@mx97jb]

A DIY channel should not be showing how to play with electrics.

[@willmitchell255]

Agreed! Only time served qualified and competent electricians should be doing electrical work - it's not a DIY job !!!!!

[@FATEMAH-q6e]

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[@willmitchell255]

But is Allah any good at DIY? Cos this is what this channel is about. Maybe you failed to notice?