Mist Valley - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh

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TheDuelLogs

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@SystemYTP
@SystemYTP Жыл бұрын
Once, I couldn’t activate one of these cards' When-effects. It had Mist timing.
@adamtomlinson918
@adamtomlinson918 Жыл бұрын
I was a huge dragunity player and always wanted mist valley to work. However, I never realized Mist Wurm was related to Mist Valley!
@BladeRabbit
@BladeRabbit Жыл бұрын
Mist Valley, the best archetype when not used together
@infernomance
@infernomance 11 күн бұрын
The Predaplant of birds
@MrShukaku1991
@MrShukaku1991 Жыл бұрын
An idea for a series you could do is "Cards that need an archetype" where you look at weird solo cards that just seem like they should have an archetype to work with. As an example, Blizzard Thunderbird, a Water Winged-Beast card that would support an archetype of such monsters, except there are none. There are even only 13 cards it can summon currently(According to the yugioh fandom wiki), but the card itself just feels like it'd be an extender for an archetype. Or Zushin the Sleeping Giant, make an archetype around his counters and building them up on normal monsters through various means to special summon boss monsters.
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Жыл бұрын
Staysailor Rosemarin, aka best girl needs an archetype
@arenbuffaloe6578
@arenbuffaloe6578 Жыл бұрын
@@Sweetlesishere First, to be that guy, it's Staysailor Romarin. SECOND... You are completely right. Great, now I was Staysailors.
@the_solomon_sage8431
@the_solomon_sage8431 Жыл бұрын
Blizzard Thunderbird is an odd one, because it was used in the Zexal anime by shark's sister, who is one of a few notable characters in a later series not using an actual archtype. since it was meant to help summon a small group of rank 4/5 monsters, the best we can hope for is some hi-synergy non-archtype cards. However, most of Shark's support can summon them anyway, so it's unlikely we'll see anything major.
@jg1404
@jg1404 Жыл бұрын
Man-Eating Hamburger needs a whole restaurant crew
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 8 ай бұрын
Well he has an archetype now (Nouvelles) but it's definitely not the direction I was thinking
@DoctorFalchion
@DoctorFalchion Жыл бұрын
I love how the best Genex monster, being Genex Ally Birdman, is a Mist Valley card in everything but name, and would still be one of if not the best card in its archetype if it were part of the latter deck.
@satyayana1399
@satyayana1399 Жыл бұрын
lorewise, birdman does related to mist valley
@Amsel_616
@Amsel_616 Жыл бұрын
*THE LOOOOOOOREEEEEEE*
@GenesicShinZyraelKai
@GenesicShinZyraelKai 3 ай бұрын
alternatively, Shrine of the Mist Valley is a Gusto card in everything but name. Floating when cards get destroyed, is the entire deck's gimmick.
@parkouremaster
@parkouremaster Жыл бұрын
Almost every Synchro deck released during the 5ds era, can be their own failure
@truffeltroll6668
@truffeltroll6668 Жыл бұрын
I know you are right but ☹️. I love those decks
@shangothunder1055
@shangothunder1055 Жыл бұрын
That seems to be the case with every new summoning mechanic during there introduction anime run except XYZ & Link.
@CD-Gaming
@CD-Gaming Жыл бұрын
@@shangothunder1055 With Xyz and Link, Konami had got their act together, but Pendulum remains shit and I still don't see the point of its existence! We didn't want it, we didn't need, we certainly didn't ask for it, it didn't add anything or even do anything interesting, it jus lead to Konami punishing everyone for THEIR mistake! Thank Ra for Master Rule 5, I say...
@0mn0m15
@0mn0m15 Жыл бұрын
​@@CD-GamingMaster Rule 5 made Pendulums basically nearly unviable nowadays. They aren't as fun as they used to be.
@aroperdope
@aroperdope Жыл бұрын
Big facts. Especially those anime theme decks
@philippenkov5622
@philippenkov5622 Жыл бұрын
In Duel Links, when Infernity still had 3 launchers, my go to lvl 9 monster was Mist Wyrm. I love that card. Bounce 3 is so op.
@ProphecyPhrase
@ProphecyPhrase Жыл бұрын
Those were the days. Why did they ever think giving us 3 Launcher with Break and Barrier was a good idea? XD
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
especially on the smaller board
@bluedestiny2710
@bluedestiny2710 Жыл бұрын
My Laval Quasar, I also ran that and Trish. There are situations where that triple bounce is more effective than Trish's hand yank
@42thehurricane
@42thehurricane Жыл бұрын
@@ProphecyPhraseyou mean 4 launchers 😂
@ProphecyPhrase
@ProphecyPhrase Жыл бұрын
@@42thehurricane Oh yeah I forgot about the skill. XD
@NoraNoita
@NoraNoita Жыл бұрын
Mist Valley Shaman looks cute though.
@olyviermonteau4300
@olyviermonteau4300 Жыл бұрын
Down bad
@bubbletea6255
@bubbletea6255 Жыл бұрын
Nah man apex avian is the cuttest
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
Still not Maiden of the Aqua
@Tychonious
@Tychonious Жыл бұрын
Oh you mean the chick on her knees with her mouth open?
@madsvigan2898
@madsvigan2898 Жыл бұрын
Look up the Japanese art
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 Жыл бұрын
I really love this series. Could you do the Cloudian archetype next for this series please?
@neondisguise1587
@neondisguise1587 Жыл бұрын
I thought cloudians were meta when they came out? Did they really fail?
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
This series just needs to be renamed "Failed Cards, *Archetypes,* and Sometimes Mechanics."
@DarkSymphony777
@DarkSymphony777 Жыл бұрын
​@@neondisguise1587they did have a quasar build I believe
@polocatfan
@polocatfan Жыл бұрын
​@@neondisguise1587plus they're only a few cards away from being a legitimately good handloop deck
@TheDuelLogs
@TheDuelLogs Жыл бұрын
good idea@@Bezaliel13
@adoorwithstaronit8573
@adoorwithstaronit8573 Жыл бұрын
Well, since failed archetypes are currently talked in this series, i do think Mecha Phantom Beasts are a good topic for this: Entire archetype revolves around summoning tokens and using tokens as a resource to advance their game state. But majority of their cards are too slow, inconsistent and not rewarding enough to make even basic plays. Like Mist Valley, the archetype has only a few monsters that seen some competitive play due to their own effects boosting other decks (Dracossac, O-Lion and Aurorodron for example). I would like to see a video on this archetype since monster designs are so cool.
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
Right? This series just needs to be renamed "Failed Cards, *Archetypes,* and Sometimes Mechanics."
@iokai4118
@iokai4118 Жыл бұрын
Eh Mecha phantom beast has tops. It really doesn't compare to the garbage of mist valley
@swisschese1323
@swisschese1323 Жыл бұрын
​@@iokai4118i'm genuinely curious but did it actually had tops or that was just auroradon beast-o-lion engine being strapped in other decks?
@r3zaful
@r3zaful Жыл бұрын
​@@swisschese1323tetherwolf back then is one of the most annoying card to deal with.
@otakotako2601
@otakotako2601 Жыл бұрын
​@@swisschese1323 yeah they topped a few times on 2013-2015
@nubocerbo
@nubocerbo Жыл бұрын
The trend of duel terminal archetypes is that the whole deck could be unplayable but they always have one uniquely busted card thats meta-tier
@mermaid_hina2713
@mermaid_hina2713 Жыл бұрын
X-Sabers were good at least, oh and Gem Knights, can't forget about their broken FTK!
@SproingBoing
@SproingBoing Жыл бұрын
Don't let Gem Knight Lapis' appearance fool you. She's wanted in at least 5 Countries, 49 States, and some city in the backwoods of Canada for the charge of "Warcrimes against individuals attempting to play a childrens card game"
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams Жыл бұрын
Your either have Worms and Allies of Justice being mediocre at best, or you have Nekroz and Shaddolls taking Worlds.
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 Жыл бұрын
​@@joshuahadamsWasn't Dragunity pretty good too?
@dhanyl2725
@dhanyl2725 Жыл бұрын
​@@stevenceja4706Actual dragunity deck, ladd loop, or stardust assault mode turbo?
@bismarckimperia8781
@bismarckimperia8781 Жыл бұрын
Trishula and Apex Avian, the two best friends who kept getting abused outside of their archtype as theirs was shite
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
But unlike with Mist Valley, this is on theme for Ice Barrier: those guys are supposed to keep the three Dragons locked away.
@user-ib3yx8vd3z
@user-ib3yx8vd3z Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the FTK with the field spell, it was very interesting and easy to understand.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t understand how he fusion summoned Fenix, where were the other pyro monsters
@pascalhein9595
@pascalhein9595 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathmare235 Elemental HERO Lady Heat was used for the first Fusion Summon. For the others you use the Blaze Fenix currently on the field as material (so there is actually only one on the field at all times). I too was confused at first, but this should be how it works.
@IamMullet
@IamMullet Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Mist Valley explored in the game again. Hopefully with restrictions that keep it in archetype or prevent degeneracy when splashed.
@ThatOneWeirdFlex
@ThatOneWeirdFlex 6 ай бұрын
My favorite part is that they limited or banned EVERY SINGLE CARD OTHER THAN THE FTK BURNER ITSELF. Very cool 😎
@arrownoir
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
I never knew Mist Worm was part of an archetype.
@Aizen343
@Aizen343 Жыл бұрын
I love how Yu-Gi-Oh turned out to be much more complex than admission tests for university. You don't play the game, you do a combo exam. 😂
@mikhaelgribkov4117
@mikhaelgribkov4117 Жыл бұрын
That FTK combo single handedly made me believe that maybe Yu-gi-oh university isn't such bizarre idea.💀
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
Birdman was based on these guys too iirc, and with Divine Wind and Avian doing things it’s not all gloom in the Mist Valley.
@SproingBoing
@SproingBoing Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Allies were designed to help out the other archetypes when the Evilswarm were running rampart and mutating everything to fit their designs iirc
@quijassajiuq900
@quijassajiuq900 Жыл бұрын
@@SproingBoing No the evilswarm was later, Birdman and the rest of the Genex Ally came from fusing the existing Genex with the Ally's of Justice to fight the The Fabled
@zeroomega3781
@zeroomega3781 Жыл бұрын
@@quijassajiuq900 fabled? wasn't it the worm?
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
@@zeroomega3781 Allies of Justice did fight the Worms, and by the time Genex was brought about Fabled began fighting too. Most of DT follows roughly its release order, but maybe not always.
@quijassajiuq900
@quijassajiuq900 Жыл бұрын
@@zeroomega3781 No no see, the worms were defeated by the AoJ Decisive Armour. Part of their defeat came from the assistance of the Fabled. After the Worms were taken care of, the Fabled turned their attention to the rest of the world and the remaining tribes. The Genex Allies were created during this time. I've read the lore too much.
@nintendolife25
@nintendolife25 Жыл бұрын
I never knew how insane that field card combo was….
@XionSteel
@XionSteel Жыл бұрын
Honestly would have done them better to make them more like harpie's dancer. Basically having more monsters that bounced themselves to summon others from the hand (not just themselves) or sometimes from the deck like their field spell did but monster effects. Would have made it a better engine for 1 card synchro plays that also let you play Dark Simorgh when splashed into dark strategies or else having them innately work with another arch type, like genex as an example that liked to be special summoned and at the very least gave mist valley access to their synchros, which weren't all terrible and god knows both the arch types needed the help. Sadly though, at the time both beast and winged-beasts barely got any support and konami just kept releasing more and more useless cards in those types which never worked together.
@quijassajiuq900
@quijassajiuq900 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite archetypes for absolutely no reason. It's remarkable how many actually good cards they have. Falcon and Big Bang shot is still the coolest combo in this game.
@SorenXIV
@SorenXIV Жыл бұрын
I miss this deck. Was surprisingly fun, even made an accidental burn loop condition with Falcon/Thunderbird & Spirit Burner. Context: was dueling a friend & it was super-late game. all he had was Spirit Reaper, & I used up all my destruction cards & would deck out soon. Falcon/T-bird, equip Spirit Burner to T-bird, bounce; Instead of conducting Draw Phase, Spirit Burner added to hand, burn, repeat. What a match to test out the build... years later I realize I could've equipped Burner to Reaper, but it was a long-winded match & I was mentally drained xD
@benjystrauss2524
@benjystrauss2524 Жыл бұрын
Some of the Mist Valley cards were pretty good, albeit not in their own deck. I still use Mist Valley Soldier in Duel Links.
@Liam-jo7mq
@Liam-jo7mq Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on Solfachord, especially with the new cards they got a while ago
@sebastianquiroga7146
@sebastianquiroga7146 Жыл бұрын
I think it would have been good if they made this archetype like they did the "Drytons", in the sense that every monster tributes another to summon itself and then gain an effect; they could made that "Mist Valley" monsters bounce a card on the field to special summon themselves, and then gain an effect (maybe an aditional if the bounced monster was a "Mist Valley")
@deanoor9391
@deanoor9391 Жыл бұрын
I use thunder bird as my avian negate support in nephyts As an actual "deck" they were missing sooo much
@tomas91375
@tomas91375 Жыл бұрын
I'm a little bit offended that you didn't mention the interactions of mist valley falcon+big bang shot haha
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 Жыл бұрын
That and Reborn Tengu! Only the Best Mist Valley Support!
@LeoGuitarize
@LeoGuitarize Жыл бұрын
My 2nd most loved archetype, only behind Simorghs.
@lamronjr8785
@lamronjr8785 Жыл бұрын
Man you really love birds
@LightshaverConstellation
@LightshaverConstellation Жыл бұрын
Understandable. Mist Valley is the deck I wanted support for the most after they gave constellar support. Divine wind of the mist Valley is one of my favorite field spells, and hanzo coming out back in the day was great because it was finally a way to get Apex Avian. Falcon was pretty cool, soldier was pretty decent, shamam had nice art too.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Floo?
@LightshaverConstellation
@LightshaverConstellation Жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate playing against floo, but enjoy most things about playing it. So I'm conflicted.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
@@LightshaverConstellation I thought it was fine without the Barrier Statue and is overhated, kinda feel similarly about Labrynth basically being able to do a lot of things at the drop of a hat, and the best part of Floo besides the cute art is how it disregards the normal summon mechanics. Lab furniture can do that with a Trap, and Ritual and Fusion have a bevy of what a nice mechanic, let’s make it our way for free.
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
This series just needs to be renamed "Failed Cards, *Archetypes,* and Sometimes Mechanics."
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
Fits into the definition of cards, easy to discuss simultaneously. Often brings their own mechanics too, so it makes for an unnecessary addition.
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
@@runningoncylinders3829 You say that, yet this one was ENTIRELY about the archetype *as an archetype.*
@javsandarts
@javsandarts Жыл бұрын
​@@Bezaliel13yeah, focused on bouncing
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
@@Bezaliel13 It was the last point that the cards had no chance played together and that any use they had in other decks was another burden they had. They had a mechanic to them that involved bouncing which is more than what reviews on Vehicroid can say, but discussion of why a particular theme isn’t working as a strategy seemingly intended for it is a discussion about failed cards and mechanics. Bouncing is not a failed mechanic since it is powerful removal, Compulsory is pretty well known, but the Mist Valley had the start of something not favorable for their whole run.
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
@@runningoncylinders3829 Counterpoints; There was no "Failed Mechanic" and archetypal *interaction* is not under "Failed Cards." Thing did not even really specified cards. It just overviewed the archetype and complained about not searching and whatnot.
@melvinshine9841
@melvinshine9841 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of Duel Terminal, I'm surprised the Ally of Justice cards haven't appeared in this series, yet. They've got two or three pretty good cards and the rest are just awful.
@mermaid_hina2713
@mermaid_hina2713 Жыл бұрын
Besides Catastor what is good in Ally of Justice?
@melvinshine9841
@melvinshine9841 Жыл бұрын
@@mermaid_hina2713 They have a hand trap that's, basically, a D.D. Crow for Light monsters, except it can banish two monsters.
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 Жыл бұрын
@@mermaid_hina2713 There are a Handful of cards that are actually good. With some level of Generic use. Especially with cards like “Ally Salvo”, “Cycle Reader”, “Cosmic Gateway”, “Cyclone Creator”, “Core Destroyer”, “Searcher” (A great and just all around Powerful negate), & “Quarantine”. The only other Synchro Monsters to use that actually do some serious plays, are Field Marshal, and Decisive Armor! Decisive Armor is especially Brutal!
@treythomas7193
@treythomas7193 Жыл бұрын
This is my first time hearing dragunity was solid and I'm SOOOO happy lol
@blackheart_1852
@blackheart_1852 Жыл бұрын
Dragunity was pretty alright back in the day, just got powercrept to where it's strongest form now is as a cog in the D-Link machine
@gonzalosibaja801
@gonzalosibaja801 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always
@kyurei4478
@kyurei4478 2 ай бұрын
Mist Valley Shaman can be very handy when it comes to specific strategies that rely on getting particular cards back to your hand because their effect only triggers upon summoning.
@DeityofDestiny
@DeityofDestiny Жыл бұрын
no, you see, shrine of mist valley is gusto support that konami just decided to make in-archetype unsearchable for the deck. it even has their crest and winda, priestess of gusto in the art
@kaiser371
@kaiser371 Жыл бұрын
You should do Naturia since they only became playable with thier latest Support
@drelowe7
@drelowe7 Жыл бұрын
Apex was crazy in pendulums
@Mighty-Eight
@Mighty-Eight Жыл бұрын
Mist valley had some great potential, but with The Attribute, Typings, and lack of Support or focus in the deck, sadly made it very lackluster. I like all Hidden Arsenal Archetypes despite their good or bad effectiveness in duels and would like all Hidden Arsenal Decks to get modern support. Hopefully you do the rest of the Hidden Arsenal Decks. Weather if they have good history or not.
@omegaXjammur
@omegaXjammur Жыл бұрын
Duel terminal archetypes for Failed cards and Mechanics? That's at least 8 hours worth of content right there
@Ky0usha
@Ky0usha Жыл бұрын
I used to love using mist falcon to return call of the haunted, safe zone and fiendish chain
@bluedestiny2710
@bluedestiny2710 Жыл бұрын
During its time, yea, the Falcon was really good. I also ran it in my Ninja deck to bounce those cards you mentioned... and sometimes Art of Transformation after I bounced the Apex Avian it was attached to... making the next ninja i summon have a transformation card ready
@reyadali5095
@reyadali5095 Жыл бұрын
I loved equipping my opponent's monster with Big Bang Shot then attacking with Mist Valley Falcon and returning said Big Bang shot to hand, banishing the monster it was equipped to. Rinse and repeat each turn with any monster my opponent tried to play face up. Also used it to return the fiendish chains, call of the haunted and ninja transformations.
@firestylefireballjutsu2792
@firestylefireballjutsu2792 Жыл бұрын
shaman is making me act up
@isnanesavant
@isnanesavant Жыл бұрын
Having mist wurm right next to the wrong text and saying the wrong effect was extremely funny
@Moonslight7658
@Moonslight7658 Жыл бұрын
Mist valley had huge potential though.
@TheStyler2710
@TheStyler2710 Жыл бұрын
I love how you explained the field spell ftk.
@RayLopezBTownSting
@RayLopezBTownSting 8 ай бұрын
so many archetypes benefited more from mist valley supp cards than mist valley did, eventually leading to their field spell being limited for being more useful in other meta decks
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 Жыл бұрын
0:08 Calling Ally of Justice a Flop, is an understatement.
@Sibat85
@Sibat85 Жыл бұрын
Trishula came in Hidden Arsenal 4, not 2.
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 Жыл бұрын
OCG release date was Duel Terminal Pulse of the Trishula in January 21 2010. Much earlier then the TCG
@Sibat85
@Sibat85 Жыл бұрын
@@soukenmarufwt5224 based on meta and set chronology mentioned in material, he clearly talks about TCG.
@LazurBeemz
@LazurBeemz Жыл бұрын
That ftk is so funny cuz so many cards it uses got limited or banned. Mist Valley, Birdman, AFD, Galaxy Tomahawk... no wonder it was broken!
@ThatOneWeirdFlex
@ThatOneWeirdFlex 6 ай бұрын
Except the one who made the FTK possible :)
@Dishinshoryuken
@Dishinshoryuken Жыл бұрын
Used to use them in Dark Wind deck Took advantage of the ninja dark cards and Valley that was keeping cards on the field Was fun deck til the hits came
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams Жыл бұрын
Wild that Roc from the Valley of Haze and Mist Bird Clausolas aren’t actual Mist Valley monsters.
@scw5098
@scw5098 Жыл бұрын
Some other fun failed Duel Terminal archetypes to cover would be Steelswarm (bad Monarchs), Ice Barrier (bad stun) and Vylons (bad equips). If you’re feeling particularly adventurous, you could delve into some pendulum archetypes like Ignister, Abyss Actor, Dinomist (unfortunately) and Amorphage.
@ZZWWYZ
@ZZWWYZ Жыл бұрын
back then Konami designed around theme instead of cohesive playstyles , so good decks were mix-match of good cards from multiple archetype
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 Жыл бұрын
Top 10 boss monsters who barely fall short of being good. EX: The Bystial Alba Los
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez Жыл бұрын
Just in this video again is miss timing, could you do a top ten of cards that miss timing and maybe showing on examples of plays that makes miss timing?
@matthewpletsch7523
@matthewpletsch7523 8 ай бұрын
I love how Thunderlord has a destroyed Catastor in its hands, but wouldn't actually be able too beat Catastor.
@onagda
@onagda Жыл бұрын
Man the original art for Mist Valley Shaman is so much better than what we got.
@artemistcg
@artemistcg Жыл бұрын
YESSSS WHEN DUELLOGS TALKS ABOUT BAD CARDS, I CLICK
@Rhizeku
@Rhizeku Жыл бұрын
I always thought the first Mist Valley card was Roc from the Valley of Haze because of Baby Roc.
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 Жыл бұрын
Technically it was. It came from a pack that had a bunch of random cards during the GX era.
@randomman5
@randomman5 Жыл бұрын
I still think we need to see Legendary Dragons/Knights in one of these videos. Hugely important in season four of the anime, completey unusable as a deck despite being sold as one
@Entei9000
@Entei9000 Жыл бұрын
They could've just made it so their field spell could only summon Mist Valley cards, that way they'd still get the help they needed without it being abusable in other decks. One thing to note about Falcon though is that Swords of Revealing Light and Call of the Haunted were still very popular when it was released and it would often to be used to recycle them.
@jshtng78
@jshtng78 Жыл бұрын
Mechanics that are breaking Yu-Gi-Oh: Beneficial costs.
@xenonim
@xenonim Жыл бұрын
Sadly for mist valley artype their boss apex avian only been used by other deck more than it own deck, received a similar fate like pankratops
@shadow_man_exe4727
@shadow_man_exe4727 Жыл бұрын
Mist Valley Falcon combos with big bang shot. You equip it to your opponents monster and the bounce it.
@KuzumiyaRiku
@KuzumiyaRiku Жыл бұрын
it's kinda sad that some archetype are designed bad from the very beginning but i'm sure there is someone who would like to play it even if it's bad
@chernobyldiaries3203
@chernobyldiaries3203 Жыл бұрын
When pointing out most valley soldiers attack, duel logs says 1200 instead of 1700… my first time catching a mistake!
@Alabastion
@Alabastion Жыл бұрын
I will say as a current dragunity pilot, That baby roc is VERY unfortunate that its a when effect and is only used for gae dearg discard.
@ryankelk4030
@ryankelk4030 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: after each failed mechanics video make a video suggesting potential new cards or errata's that would fix the archetype without being broken. Maybe Konami will listen if the ideas are good enough, could even ask your followers for ideas
@Kagu-fx1un
@Kagu-fx1un Жыл бұрын
Just realized mist valley thunder lord tore off aoj catastor’s head in his artwork
@neo84401
@neo84401 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a top 10 list about cards that clearly belong to an archetype but the name is slightly off? For example, mist bird clausolas.
@wtfox8206
@wtfox8206 Жыл бұрын
Must Bird Clausolas and Roc from the Valley of Haze are totally Mist Valley cards. Black-winged Dragon is obviously a Blackwing
@IdentityChrist
@IdentityChrist Жыл бұрын
Mist Valley Shaman got me acting unwise
@yhelanat
@yhelanat Жыл бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and said "That looks alot like a Hirumaredx video." scrolled past then came back convinced no one would copy that. Turns out it was you!
@tk24life
@tk24life Жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t have taken much to make this archetype broken considering how strong returning to the hand is.
@SDREHXC
@SDREHXC Жыл бұрын
I meant, it would’ve been a real thing if the rest of the deck just supported turbo-ing out avian and thunderbird for the infinite negate loop. It was fragile but an auto win if you got it off.
@AZ-rl7pg
@AZ-rl7pg Жыл бұрын
Yeah they just needed the right cards and it probably would have helped if Divine Wind required one of the monster to be a Mist Valley. Making it completely wind generic severely hurt any chance Mist Valley itself had. Also I'm kind of surprised I haven't heard of anyone using a Mist Valley Harpie deck in Master Duel since Divine Wind is unlimited there and can summon Thunderbird from deck so you could set up the negate loop with Avian without Union Carrier.
@MSSenpai03
@MSSenpai03 Жыл бұрын
Question....does baby roc proc by dark world dealings?
@selectivepontification8766
@selectivepontification8766 Жыл бұрын
It should since Dealings draws first and discards second
@honeyham6788
@honeyham6788 Жыл бұрын
yes. being discarded is a way to send from hand to gy
@MSSenpai03
@MSSenpai03 Жыл бұрын
Perfect! I can add this to my danger synchron deck
@tobiz1922
@tobiz1922 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video about sky scourges because I have no idea what their purpose is.
@DutchDude12
@DutchDude12 Жыл бұрын
Give Mist Valley the Dark World treatment Konami.
@nicmalugin9287
@nicmalugin9287 Жыл бұрын
Mist valley thunder lord should have that it has to be a card that hadn’t been bounced with its effect before in that turn but without the once per turn restriction
@erlonbrunosouzamiranda8525
@erlonbrunosouzamiranda8525 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on the lore of the bystials? I'd love to watch.
@AZ-rl7pg
@AZ-rl7pg Жыл бұрын
I don't really feel it's fair to say Mist Valley failed when they didn't really get a chance to be their own archetype to begin with. I mean at least the archetype's gimmick is interesting and could be a pretty cool deck if Konami actually gave them better support unlike Ally of Justice and Genex which are either way to specific in what they do making a competent deck almost impossible to make or have so much going on that the archetype is just one big mess of monsters with no cohesive strategy. Also it was dumb to release Divine Wind as generic wind support instead of specifying a Mist Valley monster as either part of the effect (the card bounced or the card searched) and should receive an errata. It'd be nice if it was in the same fashion as Naturia Sacred Tree's tag out effect i.e. bounce a Mist Valley monster summon a wind monster from deck, bounce a non-Mist Valley wind monster summon a Mist Valley monster from deck ("once per turn, if a WIND monster you control returns to the hand (except during the Damage Step): You can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower WIND monster from your Deck. One of these monsters must be a Mist Valley monster.")
@Celmondas
@Celmondas Жыл бұрын
I love that you explained that FTK but I gotta say: WTF is that even
@festusfive9157
@festusfive9157 Жыл бұрын
5:14 yeah gae dearg may be the most impossible card to pronounce in the game
@CardKingAce14
@CardKingAce14 Жыл бұрын
trishula wasn't release in hidden arsenal 2. it's debut pack had its name in the set name Hidden Arsenal 4: Trishula's Triumph and it is the cover card.
@calich33sehead
@calich33sehead Жыл бұрын
Maybe someday Shrine will be a good Field Spell. We have Mariamne for proactive self-destruction.
@greenej3932
@greenej3932 Жыл бұрын
Apex, can also return the field spell, not only monsters
@theoneofakindfilms
@theoneofakindfilms Жыл бұрын
So today I learned that the is alot of kuriboh utility cards and wondering if you could do a kuriboh archetype video 😊
@_Vengeance_
@_Vengeance_ Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I have with this deck is how it doesn't benefit from sending cards back to the hand. Its only in-archetype support for that was Thunderbird (Divine Wind was released really late, and didn't get a Mist Valley replacement when it was dealt with) and what did it really do to use Thunderbird for those effects? Shaman's ATK doesn't matter, Falcon is just Gene-Warped Warwolf if you use Thunderbird, Mist Condor's not a Tuner so you're not doing much with it and Thunderbird on its own but needed even more prep, etcetera. Apex Avian's powerful with Thunderbird's recycling, but there were no dedicated ways to bring Apex Avian out and the generic ways were pretty meh for a dedicated Mist Valley deck, and the game was a lot slower so it was really no problem to just play a Normal Summon to kill Thunderbird and make the real plays in Main Phase 2.
@chitipatutrapiromsook9447
@chitipatutrapiromsook9447 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever talk about dark tuner and syncro yet? I was playing the game in those old day and curious about them till these day. Wanna know why they were abandoned.
@unpopularweeb8535
@unpopularweeb8535 Жыл бұрын
If you summon 3 Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Birds (I assume) with each other (since Lady Heat was the only Pyro monster I saw in this combo, and she gets banished with Fusion Gate) and the Battle Eagle Tokens, you still have enough monsters to burn for 8000 damage? Because you'll have less and less monsters.
@thekoifishcoyote8762
@thekoifishcoyote8762 Жыл бұрын
You will have fewer and fewer monsters, but the math still works out to 9000 damage total: 3300 with 10 total monsters + black garden 3000 with 9 total monsters + black garden 2700 with 8 total monsters + black garden He should have definitely animated it differently though
@neo84401
@neo84401 Жыл бұрын
I like their level 3 synchro.
@funGohan
@funGohan Жыл бұрын
you mean tuner ? XD
@neo84401
@neo84401 Жыл бұрын
@@funGohan no, it's the synchro with 2300 defense.
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams Жыл бұрын
Mist Bird Clausolas, spell speed 1 monster negate and attack drain. A great stepping stone in bigger plays and inspiration for an amazing Nekroz monster.
@funGohan
@funGohan Жыл бұрын
I dont see a level 3 Mist Valley Synchro @@neo84401
@siftheadsdude
@siftheadsdude Жыл бұрын
Please do one on seal of orichalcos/the cards involving the arc w/ it in the anime!
@milkybagz394
@milkybagz394 Жыл бұрын
Mist Valley more like MISSED Valley I guess
@brianshull879
@brianshull879 Жыл бұрын
Me from master duels thinking apex avian was a floo card lmao
@madsvigan2898
@madsvigan2898 Жыл бұрын
Mist valley join the collection of terrible decks with few broken cards. Among them, genex with its water support and birdman Ice barrier with their broken synchros Dinowresters (we all know the Who is here) Simorgh (good old link 3) And mist valley with its avian and field spell
@viewtifullinkerjoe8221
@viewtifullinkerjoe8221 Жыл бұрын
Trish was introduce in HA04, not HA02
@OGCxDaizy
@OGCxDaizy Жыл бұрын
I made this deck and then 2 days later the ban list banned the field spell and I was salty. I been trying to build the deck ever since. I tried to use the second field spell with nephthys but couldn't find a consist route to getting Thunderbird and avian on board and that was my last attempt like a year ago. If I ever come back to playing yugi irl it will only be to play this deck.
@akram9168
@akram9168 Жыл бұрын
lol the moment i saw roc i thought to my self how is this card not played in everydeck then u mentioned the timing
@shameronstar7220
@shameronstar7220 Жыл бұрын
Apex avian and thunderbird negate combo says hello
@bizarrestruggler
@bizarrestruggler Жыл бұрын
TOP 10 RANK 8 MONSTERS OF ALL TIME
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx Жыл бұрын
I would like to have Chronomaly for the spot of this series...we have literally the worst modern Stratos, niche OTK, no S/T protection or removal, and a really tight archetype restriction. Even a stratos, bonus normal summon, and omni monster negate cant save it
@borisheidenreich1830
@borisheidenreich1830 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean this is not a Floowandereeze video
@ShyRanger
@ShyRanger Жыл бұрын
Molosseum of the Emperor
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
Molasses of the Employer
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 5 ай бұрын
Molotov of the Executioner
@satyayana1399
@satyayana1399 Жыл бұрын
mist valley in short : bounce
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