Heroics - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh

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If there was anything “Heroic” about Heroics, it was the fact that people bravely tried to play this deck and make it work. From their restrictive and baffling Spells and Traps to their lackluster monsters, Heroics didn’t really function as a solid deck. Even when the new support in 2022 strengthened its glass cannon playstyle, that playstyle turned out to be a soggy, bare paper towel roll. If this analogy isn’t convincing you that Heroics aren’t worth the cardboard they’re printed on, maybe a nice 15-20 minute video will make you see the light on why a Trap Card that makes your opponent’s Life Points 8000 doesn’t do your archetype any good.
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[@BladeRabbit]

I always love these videos when its like "this archetype was awful except for this one card that is on the banlist now"

[@TsubasaAmsel]

Many such cases

[@leetri]

And the reason is always because the 1 broken card is 100% generic and way too easy to play

[@Monkeylighthouse]

Yea that pretty much only happens when said banned card could be a part of completely different archetype without anything changing.

[@misirtere9836]

Let's be real, the only reason Rhongo Bongo is viable is because it does not care if you're actually playing any other Heroic monsters. That's like saying the Harpie Lady archetype is good because of Harpie's Feather Duster.

[@kennethM]

hot banned too. that's funny.@@misirtere9836

[@diegobendinelli2680]

This series kinda just turned into Legacy of the Worthless 2 lol

[@billybobjoe1335]

Considering both covered Genex before it became viable, yeah.

[@Deathmare235]

@@billybobjoe1335wait it’s viable now?

[@gatocochino5594]

@@Deathmare235No.

[@13thKingMu]

​@@Deathmare235considered nobody used it in ocg or doesn't have top performing in touraments while ice barrier,ritual beast and infernoid did so no

[@kennydarmawan13]

You know something's up when the failed mechanic showed its OP boss monster. Yeah, what's up with weak archetypes having OP, generic boss monsters sometimes?

[@billybobjoe1335]

If I had a nickel for every archetype where that was the case, it would be a hell of a lot more than 2.

[@Crim-kun]

Ice barrier says hi

[@some2043]

​@@Crim-kunin the lore the ice barriers prevent the descent of the dragons ,it is closer to their enemies than their bosses

[@peepeevs]

One of the many cases. Rongo is a it special though, since it is legit one of the most powerful bossmonsters this game has ever seen.

[@kennydarmawan13]

​@@billybobjoe1335how many exactly?

[@MiyaoMeow588]

I love that you say the Xyz monsters have no protection (even bringing up Mirror Force) when you just went over the Rank 1, which protects all your monsters from destruction

[@melvinshine9841]

The later Heroic cards wanting you to have 500 life points is probably a reference to how in the anime, you needed to be below a certain life point threshold to activate Excalibur's effect, and I'm pretty sure that threshold was 500 or less. Excalibur was also one of the only Xyz monsters that wasn't part of the Hope/Utopia archetype that Yuma used more than once.

[@jasperjavillo686]

In defense of Heroic Gift, that was a card made exclusively for the anime. It was used by Nistro during the Duel Coster Duel, which was a battle royal style duel where LP carried over between duels running into spells and traps could affect your LP outside of duels. Being someone who likes a good duel, Nistro used this card to help Yuma, who sustained a lot of damage from previous duels and his own bad luck with coster traps, so they could have a proper duel. Nistro even covered up the fact he helped Yuma, who he was supposed to be aiming to eliminate from the tournament, by telling his boss he just wanted the card advantage.

[@jasperjavillo686]

@@drmetroid912Not saying it's not. Just wanted to clarify the reason the card exists in the first place. It's one of those cards that existed solely for an anime plot point, and really has no business being printed in the TCG and OCG.

[@pokebot451gonbow5]

@@drmetroid912 same with weapon xyzs

[@polocatfan]

​@@drmetroid912I mean it at least was good in the anime. some cards weren't even good there (the sarcophagus cards.)

[@opswhyyou7216]

This deck left a deep impression on me because when master duel was promoting its new support, I grabbed the rent deck and proudly made a 5 material number 86 against my opponent only to discover that I spent my entire hand and had no further follow-up, so my opponent just set 1 monster every turn and stalled 86 out. I am now known as the person who made a 5 material 86 yet somehow still lost.

[@Deathmare235]

What about the other cards you drew

[@stevenkrisyanto3351]

Dont you nuke your opponet with Rhongo's effect? And they cannot summon any monsters for 2 full turns. How can u still lose?

[@XohmadonX]

@@stevenkrisyanto3351 can't summon, but they can set. So they can still stall it out if you are unlucky and draw no monsters.

[@Zyroes]

@@stevenkrisyanto3351Rhongomyniad's effect keeps your opponent from normal or special summoning, but they can still set monsters face-down.

[@BeaglzRok1]

The level 1 cards were for making Number 54: Lion Heart, which was used by the guy that ran Heroics in Zexal. Makes sense to include them in the Number Hunters set when that was their sole purpose.

[@Diamondr11Blue]

Nistro

[@brumallupine1961]

It was used by a Barian-controlled Nistro in a duel with Dextra and Yuma vs Nistro and Alito.

[@akmach]

These videos have become the diss tracks of Yugioh and I am here for it

[@huyhoang6875]

I always run a copy of Claivesolish in my HERO deck. You can't believe how many times it saves me from dying by being a giant beatstick (5k on itself, 10k on Trinity, even stronger if the opponent has a beatstick also) and is made by pretty generic material (Shadow Mist, Vyon, Stratos, Blazeman, Liquid Soldier)

[@ryanpeters3812]

I remember running the heroic xyz in my battlin boxer deck. They were one offs, cause i was using Utopias and Battlin Boxers boss xyzs. They were useful when they were needed. Excalibur was great for beefy monsters that could only be destroyed by battle, and obviously Kusanagi shut down traps nicely. But that was back when Gagaga Cowboy was my emergency finisher.

[@lgp5619]

Konami: This archetype sucks! lets give it a good card! Proceeds to create the most broken card in the game that lets you create a combo that prevents your opponent from playing....

[@spenceregerton5268]

Konami: oh no no no no- roll it back! Roll it back!

[@spenceregerton5268]

Konami: oh no no no no- roll it back! Roll it back!

[@pawedziedzic3250]

I feel like the true way to make a Battle Phase-oriented archetype would be to give the monsters protection during all phases _except_ the Battle Phase. That would force the opponnent to use their effects during the battle phase, bringing back the good old days of Honest meta relevance

[@Max.Wipson]

The funniest part about Heroic Gift for me is that it's once per turn. Imagine using that and then somehow meeting the activation requirements a second time, then giving the life points back a second time to draw 2 more cards

[@joshfarmer8408]

Yeah, he did my idea. I am happy Also, the whole 500 or less life point gimmick comes from the anime. For those of you who don't know, in the anime, Excalibur had a very stupid restriction that said it can't attack if you more than 500 lp

[@Sfalma274]

"DuelLogs made a new video about an awful archetype, time to make it playable with new support" someone at Konami probably

[@katzuma7641]

I wish rhongo was not generic and instead required heroic monsters it wouldn’t nearly be as good but at least it would actually make heroics decent by themselves

[@MICHAELTUMANGDAY]

I remember running Goblindberg and Doggy Diver in this deck because I don't know what to do with these archetype😂

[@dvynal2964]

me currently running goblindberg in mine: ...

[@axis8396]

I think Ninjas would be interesting to look at next. They were legitimately pretty good as a rank 4/5 toolbox a number of years ago but unlike Heroics they had actually good spells/traps, notably Rust Mist which pretty much single-handedly shut down decks like Blue-eyes by halving their attack or dropping it even further if you got multiple copies. Plus you had stuff like Super Transformation with WDN and Safe Zone which was super easy due to cards like Hanzo, RotA, etc not to mention all the generic level/rank 4 support with monsters like Tin Goldfish, and the like.

[@brightpowder_cena]

Every comments section in this series: 'I can't believe DuelLogs is saying my pet deck, with which I once got top 64 in my locals, is a failed archetype! Why does this channel about the competitive TCG not take my specific experiences into account?'

[@agitpolat1061]

I know you're being sarcastic, but ehh, not really; by now people are more annoyed about the fact that this Series is TOO hyper-focused on Competetive. Saying "this Archetype is bad for these reasons" is what you'd EXPECT from a Series like this, but at this point it's clear that he's actually just saying "This Archetype is bad because it's not Meta" instead. He doesn't look at what made them good or not, he just goes "Here's why you wouldn't place (very high) in Tournaments". You joke about people being mad over their personal "Pet Archetypes" getting covered by these, but when basically everything that isn't like...Tier 1 at minimum qualifies for these, calling them a "Failed Archetype" in the first place loses all meaning.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

​@@agitpolat1061Or it means Yugioh id a Failed Game.

[@rafaelbrites3607]

and this was archetype used in the zexal anime by gauche, a very important card during the first season of the anime.

[@ooperblownup]

Koaki Meiru next please. That archetype was so interesting and disappointing at the same time.

[@Deathmare235]

Also had the “but in duel links” factor

[@ooperblownup]

@@Deathmare235 never played duel links

[@justinpennington6680]

It was meta for awhile but there wasn’t many decks to compete with it

[@absentmindedshirokuma8539]

​@@justinpennington6680koaki meiru as a deck was never playable, just some of it monster has accidental synergy with stun/control deck.

[@justinpennington6680]

@@absentmindedshirokuma8539 I meant meta in duel links, sad cause they have some strong cards.

[@bondforgedlarceus916]

Gonna love the "how can that archetype failed when it has a -too generic and broken- great card in the archetype?" topics

[@rielleerece8964]

"Flopped harder than Lebron" Damn

[@ace-trainer-aj]

14:52 One time in Master Duel during an Xyz related event, my opponent decided to OTK my Utopia with Claivesolish... Except I had an Honest in hand 😂

[@israeldelarosa5461]

This is why true Xyz Gamers play Battlin Boxers instead

[@oxdaman1]

The best takeaway from this video is the phrase, "Cold, Evil World of the TCG." Lmao!

[@respectblindfolds7411]

Love how when he explains the combo for Rhongo, it repeatedly shows the wrong card to represent Extra Sword. Like, did the editor forget about it and thought "extra sword" was a metaphor?

[@gentlemandog4985]

I thought about making the archetype a battle control focus by giving it effects that allowed it to summon tokens on your opponents side of the field that had battle effects which would benefit the Heroic player while also not being able to be used as tributes or materials for summons and effects. Effects such as "Taking double battle damage" "reducing the attack of adjacent monsters by X" or even something like "preventing opponents from setting/ negating the effects of already active cards in the magic/trap zone adjacent to the destroyed monster" for something super niche. Adding "If destroyed by a Heroic Monster" as a requirement is probably a good idea after what happened with the previous version, but I think with that it would be an interesting form of control. The monsters themselves would probably be statted based on their ability's, with stronger effects being given higher stats, making some risk being involved as you don't want to give your opponent anything too big without knowing you have the odds to destroy it, and giving your opponent the ability to protect those monsters either to use as a beat stick, or delaying their effect until they can handle it.

[@tien5tri]

Lebron caught a stray in a video about a children's card game 😂😂😂

[@thek838]

These videos are just making me wish Rata did videos more regularly because his coverage of archetypes is so much better, funny and gets information across just better.

[@zacharydobbins6267]

Agreed.. these just feel… rather sad hearing him dump on cards… every single failed cards episode is just repeating ‘is this meta, no? Then it’s trash’ over and over

[@RinaShinomiyaVal]

​@@zacharydobbins6267truth hurts 😂

[@Buddy26420]

I remember a Rank 4 warrior deck I had pre Links. Had stuff like Goblindberg, Extra Sword, Photon Thrasher etc. Also Rescue Rabbit. Was pretty fun, but wasnt consistent at all.

[@Trekkie46]

I've been working on a generic EARTH Warrior deck. I figured I enjoyed EARTH Machines so much that I wanted to try the same concept to smashing engines together. The War Rocks work well with them. But it's still one hell of a work in progress.

[@buchiklop110]

Would work better in Duel Links. There's even a Skull that gives all Earth Warriors a passove flat +200 Attack increase.

[@Deathmare235]

@@buchiklop110200 isn’t much though

[@buchiklop110]

@@Deathmare235 In Duel Links, it does make a difference, especially with War Rocks.

[@leafgreenbeast]

Ive got a similar deck kicking around, running 2 halberd/thousand blades, a knuckle sword, 2-3 morningstars, 3 of call and envoy, and one chance On the WR side i generally run a bashileos, 2 meteoragon, 2-3 each of gactos and fortia, and a single of mammud and the archer, with a generations, three mountains, and three dignity Consider stuff like magnum shield, power of the guardian, or moon mirror shield if you wanna be funny From there its mostly just fiddling with numbers and adding your preferred suite of draw, board breakers (kaiju make for nice bodies to attack into without nasty effects), and handtraps. Does end up a little thick at around 45-50 cards tho, which may not be to some folks liking

[@Trekkie46]

@@leafgreenbeast Moon Mirror Shield seems like funny tech that could work with Fortia, the most important WR monster. Did you try the Amazoness monsters at all? I had trouble getting them to mix.

[@neroneroren6788]

Maybe it was just in my locals back in the day, but i am sure Gandiva was used quite a bunch for a while.

[@EruditoGaming]

Gandiva was solid against rescue rabbit in hero beat

[@alexcruz3043]

Yo these guys where the support for my six sams in the extra deck for so long, I always felt like Gandiva was slept on at the time. trying to make turbo Rhon lock downs with Sams was always fun.

[@user-sm5dd7fu4j]

Idea for future video: Cards from the TCG that would ruin Duel Links (be it because of incompatibility with the format's rules, power levels too high for current Duel Links ceiling, incompatibility with other aspects of the format etc)

[@whispersalone6673]

I know you said it multiple times in many videos, but is there a checklist video of what an archetype must achieve to be successful? Between searching and negating and more, I would like a record of what must be accomplished to be successful.

[@agitpolat1061]

He literally only checks "would this Archetype be viable at a Tournament if you played it pure". He doesn't look at what sort of Effects it has access to, if an Archetype isn't like Tier 1 (maybe Tier 2) on its own, then it qualifies for these Videos. He basically admits that in his Morphtronic Video, because he outright says "This Archetype was actually solid, it just couldn't find success in the Meta" in that one.

[@Stormhawk777]

11:00 Snap of a hat lol

[@aaronlaluzerne6639]

You forgot to talk about the rank 1 monster that required 3 level 1 monsters to make and had an effect of detach one card from it and if you do, it's not destroyed by battle and any battle damage you would take is inflicted to your opponent instead.

[@supremeking6694]

I don’t think that monster has “Heroic” in its name, but I’m pretty sure that monster was used by the same guy that played a “Heroic” deck in the anime

[@neilbryankilaton5893]

No. 86 is now banned in both formats. Duel Logs:

[@SR3TG119]

I was not ready for the lebron slander lmao

[@888hondo]

somehow the outro music sounds like it's saying "GAARNEEET GARNEEET"

[@melvinshine9841]

Battle Traps could possibly make for a video, even though they could mostly be summed up with, "were good back in the day, but back row removal got way better". Also, a petition for Archfiends, Mekklords, and Earthbound Gods.

[@Trekkie46]

I tried building an Archfiend deck not long ago. 0-10 would not recommend. But there's an easy fix for battle traps. Make them floaters and maybe archetype specific so they're searchable. Then they'd be decent first-turn options.

[@rainbowdragon168]

The next archetype should be either Cloudians or Vechiroids

[@user-xs5bl9dy6d]

What about Valkaries? That archetype that in the anime made them somewhat broken,but in the actual TCG,they're just mediocre fairy types.

[@rainbowdragon168]

@@user-xs5bl9dy6d Yeah that’s true

[@hermit3043]

I know Logs doesn't even write his own scripts anymore, but it's like this series really wants to be something more like an "archetype archive" than to actually talk about "failed cards".

[@kindlingking]

I hope Logs isn't the one writing this series. It's a huge drop off in quality compared to his older works.

[@soukenmarufwt5224]

Quantity over quality Duel Logs is watch MOJO of ygo

[@benmaske9598]

Good grief. Rhongo and Excalibur were both excellent cards that were part of a terrible deck. They were generic enough to see play anyway, but that was outside of their intended archetype. Much like Exciton Knight, Trishula, etc. Heroics failed as a deck. Not as individual cards.

[@hermit3043]

You could say that about most archetypes though. The thing is most decks don't play "pure" archetypes, but videos like this only make sense in that context. Hence, why it wants to be something like archetype archive, that evaluates the cards in an archetype over all. Which makes a lot more sense than calling cards that had a lot of success as an engine "failed cards". You can blame the audience all you like, but the actual content of these videos aren't being effectively communicated by their title.

[@hermit3043]

@soukenmarufwt5224 That's a little uncalled for I think. There actually is useful information in a lot of his videos. The top 10s very often show me cards I hadn't seen or considered using before.

[@IC-23]

Hey don't trash on Heroic Gift, it had it's one limelight in Early Masterduel to torture SelfTKers :)

[@nophion2-electricboogaloo647]

I never had this much fun in Master Duel ever again. It was pure bliss to waste their turns.

[@dudono1744]

Imagine if you were actually running a deck that wants your opponent to have a ton of LP

[@CesarIsauroTH]

It is absurd that if we continue like this every deck is bad if it never become competitive and for example: Adventurer token would fall into a failed cards despite being an engine and no one use the other equip spells, fields or traps.

[@bismarckimperia8781]

....you also gave a bad example when Adventure decks were bad. Their Pile decks saw more play than the Pure one and the half deck did ever see the light of day.

[@bismarckimperia8781]

They also are one of the best archrtype that ponderd ther mechanics, and then slams it with some cards youd never run for competetive because they cant save their bacon even if the make sense for the archtype

[@elijahpadilla6233]

Flop harder than Lebron got me 😂

[@bobjones4469]

What happened to Life Point and Life Point gain don't matter? But in all seriousness, Heroic Gift sucks cuz of the activation condition, your opponent needs to be sub 2000 Life Point. If it just straight up gave 8000 Life Points to draw 2 cards, some decks would definitely use it.

[@peepeevs]

I mean, I can think of some archetypes that failed harder. Just of the top of my head: Melodious Solfachord Weather Painters Junk (the Yusei archetype) The entire Gogogo/gagaga/zubababa mess that Yuma played in Zexal Naturia (untill they gotten their broken support which basically just ended up being played by itself) Laval Super Heavy Samurai (untill it suddenly became broken) Red-Eyes (Konami can't figure out what they want this deck to do) Unchained (until it suddenly became broken) Archfiends Aquactresses Valkeries The Egyptian Gods The Sacred Beasts

[@some2043]

Red eyes shall stay the way it is It is literally Joey's personality and his strategy in card form

[@olyviermonteau4300]

Troll c(x makes it better but grammar police)omment detected.

[@Deathmare235]

@@some2043Joey was actually a good duelist though

[@Deathmare235]

Yuma’s archetype is actually good now due to the utopia support and super heavy samurais and unchained were never bad, just not meta

[@olyviermonteau4300]

you were trolling with this one weren't you

[@EnigmaticLich]

Why do I watch these and then say "that sounds like fun, I should make that deck"... like I didn''t just listen to why it doesn't work

[@leojamesquiambao1047]

Heroics might not be good, but they're not THAT bad. They have one game plan (OTK), but they can do said game plan pretty consistently, and they are still playable at Rogue level. Save that tag for stuff like War Rocks. That being said, Worst Classic cards - Ancient Sanctuary or Worst Warriors type monsters when?

[@agitpolat1061]

It's becoming increasingly obvious that Logs doesn't actually look at how good or bad an Archetype is, at this point it's just "A Deck that played this Archetype pure wouldn't be Meta, and here's why". And shile he has always assumed the Competetive Context for all his Videos, the problem is that saying "This Archetype bad cuz it's not Meta" is WAAAAAY too broad of a statement.

[@lionablaze8747]

​@agitpolat1061 yeah, that's why I stopped taking his failed archetypes videos seriously.

[@SAMURIADI]

9:53 - 10:07 DL says "extra swords" but the carda on screen are assult halberg and thiusand blades editing mistake?

[@loganalvarez2985]

My favorite diet plan keto kaiba

[@MojoStrummer]

What about a "failed" archetype that failed because they were too broken and had to have their entire archetype annihilated by the banlist? That's still a failure of card design.

[@Nobodyss21]

Dragon ruler, tearweeblement, braindead, and kashittira are failed archetype. Expecially kashittira is just walmart version of ojamachad🥴

[@mickjaegar2379]

I feel like someday soon there'll be one of these videos for the Battle Phase.

[@billybobjoe1335]

I would say do “roids” but that may be beating a dead horse. Would be interested in a video on counters, either in general or specifically putting counters on opponent’s cards.

[@arielcevallos8188]

One question, for master duel players. The cards from structure decks that you can buy for 250 gems on the shop, can be desmantled?

[@xXPoloFenaticXx]

Used to run Igknight/Rhongo turbo in 2017. Super cheap and fun deck at the time.

[@ShinRyuuk]

Are these coming out at a quicker pace? Like dang, can't keep up. Column mechanics, War Rock, Preda Plant, Heroic. Ursartic and Flamvell were shorter ones, yea

[@siftheadsdude]

Make one on the seal of orichalcos/orichalcos arc cards!

[@Rabbitlord108]

It's funny that Heroic Champion Excalibur is a grade a example of a card that got a massive upgrade from the anime. There it could only attack while you had 500 life points or less. For context. I persobally use Heroic Champion Excalibur in my Duel Links Six Samurai Auto duel deck. If it still had that restriction. Said archetype would only be able to use it as a last resort card summoned by first reviving 2 level 4s with Backs to the Wall.

[@Thomas-rl5pq]

I tried them, thinking HERO support would work on them. I was very young, when doing this 😂.

[@AnuxeL]

Can’t just casually violate LeBron like that

[@ZeroBladeShadow]

Another deck that fell into the “cards that’s better in other decks than it’s own archetype” curse.

[@mekahans3678]

Konami making a bad/not so good archetype with op generic monster It not the only time tho 🗿

[@AloneTheorist]

It's a shame that Heroic challenger and Infernoble/Noble knights never got together as war hammer could have fed the effects that need to destroy a face up equip cards to trigger a powerful interruption effect. If when your opponent's monster equipped by Warhammer returns to the gy the opponent activates a gy effect of said monster you could just d.d crow or called by the grave it meaning they'd get nothing. So there's a good combo, plus level 4 Infernoble and Noble knights could make extra bulk Xyz material for Heroic challenger Xyz monsters as well as their own archetype synchro/Xyz plays.

[@Gboy86ify]

I still run Claive in Warrior archetype decks sometimes. Dude's good if you can't go into anything ale.

[@SnapdragonAtheist]

Love your videos

[@chaoticblackstallion7309]

With how easy it is One turn kill I remember there was is one Dino arch that valued itself on having lower life points. And I will use that card all the time

[@dudono1744]

You want to play dinomorphia heroics ?

[@chaoticblackstallion7309]

@@dudono1744 I was playing against the Dinosaurs. Use that 1 trap card that gives. The 8000 life points. Mid attack in order to reduce Attack points what I was trying to say is it's so easy to deal 8000 points of damage. But giving you a point of Batman your lifepoint is. Not a problem

[@dudono1744]

@@chaoticblackstallion7309 I mean yes, that card completely breaks their whole strat. It also is an out to punisher

[@AlejandroRodriguez-mr9ox]

I always liked this battle oriented archetypes, it reminds me a lot to the animes and because you win by force instead of depending on negates

[@generalforsythe3944]

I do wonder if heroics would well with Ojamas since those tokens can be summoned in attack position, right?

[@SamusDaHero]

Okay, the archetype itself is definitely a glass cannon. BUT with the new support, they can OTK very hard, and the new spells and monsters make for a pretty good extender package in rank 4 warrior decks. I think it's a little unfair to hate on them this bad when their strategy is literally the exact same as some other decks, like Utopia (albeit less interruptions - they have 1-2 now?) And Gren Maju (that card showed up at tournaments A LOT in the last few years). It has its strategy and while too simple for modern TCG, its not unplayable like War Rocks or Ally of Justice. The deck functions pure. And a lot of those older cards that definitely arent used anymore are products of an older time. That's like complaining how bad Satellarknight Rigel is without considering its historical context and significance (support given to Tellars for them to beat over Winda with a normal summon). I liked this series at first but now it's just crapping on decent decks that don't top, but are perfectly fine or average casual or rogue contenders.

[@Beybladebro824Z]

My suggestions: Battlin’ Boxer, gimmick puppet, dragunity

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

Dragunity is good though the only thing is that dragonlink is better.

[@olexoz1505]

You can't even use Heroic Gift with Simochi or Nurse because the card text states ''Make your opponents life points 8000'' instead of ''Your opponent gains life points equal to the difference of their current life points and 8000''.

[@frankaxe6700]

One of my favorite archetypes Love Spartans But could be Stonger

[@ZeroBladeShadow]

Rhongo is literally the most broken towers card ever printed.

[@randomusername3445]

Can't believe they made Jarngreiper but not Mjolnir. Jarngreiper should've had the ability to equip itself to another heroic challenger and Mjolnir should've been this stupid strong monster with a lot of drawbacks unless it was equipped with Jarngreiper. Like the perfect flavor and mechanic win just sitting right there easy as hell to implement and they just passed it up.

[@TrainTheoryOfficial]

My Nephew actually made Heroic Champion Excalibur, he even has the original card print.

[@Zthewise]

A subpar Archetype that had a super powerful card that gets abusrd by other decks so much that it gets banned. Where have i heard that before? *brilliant fusion * I remember trying to get gem knights and heroics to work, with not much payout.

[@170skeith]

Heroic gift gets funnier the more you see it like if you're in a place where you can activate it then you could probably just win the game without it at that point

[@MikeTheCartoon]

Well this hurst to watch. These cards look so cool, but I can’t argue with these points

[@HisokaYohoho]

Man, that hurt deep. Back during HAT format I played Heroics at locals and I had so much fun. Won a lot of locals too (although my locals used to be pretty casual since most people there went to big events, so they met at this local once a week just to have fun). The strategy was a simple rank 4 warrior, running Double Lance, Extra Sword, Swordshield, 1 Spartan for more names. Also ran Ambush soldiers with Reinforcing Truth to give more setup in my turn. Heroics are terrible and i know it, but the deck still has a soft spot in my heart

[@zerocalvin]

i wonder when harpies will show up in one of these failed archetype video... i main harpies, but i cant help but to notice that harpies have a lot in common with most of these failed archetype....

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

At this point, you could make an entire video of "top 10 archetypes / decks that had At least 1format-warping card, but weren't good solo as their own deck" Predaplant (most of their extra deck monsters and the orphis scorpio / darlincobra duo), Heroic (Thousand Blades as part of the Brilliant Fusion engine), Neo-Spacian / Neos (Rainbow Neos (thanks to Verte Anaconda), and Grand Mole), Flamvell (Rekindling), and Ice Barrier Pre-2021 (most of their extra deck monsters) could be good candidates

[@clarafedde8674]

Duel logs nailed it...but the fact its weakness can totally be covered. I know, I did it. Granted my deck was less heroic monsters, but the extenders helped for other plays really well.

[@Goldhawk7]

Excalibur is fantastic in Arcana Knights decks Special summon the 3 Knights, XYZ Into Excalibur to get 4000 beatstick. It's a sin that such sexy artwork has such terrible effects/arctype.

[@xinember3002]

These Duel logs content is my bed time stories every night.

[@TheOnceUnknown]

I think that the music mixing was too loud this week very noticible with the song at 7 min, I havent noticed something like this previously

[@brandenaycock8390]

Why Bron catch a stray like that 😭

[@cheehow1992]

Now OCG soon to be released new Bestowed Dragon/Brightfleet archetype almost the same concept, hopefully they don't fail it again

[@CoolPretzel95]

Can you do sky/earth/combat/... idk stars? Theyre mostly warriors and fusions, theyre my favorite archetype.

[@antoniodangelo9940]

Also... war rock work well with heroic warriors You dont war rock gactos helps extra sword.

[@StarlightMagician]

What Heroics need for Going Second is their own Misc at this point.

[@donk8052]

that lebron line gave me whiplash

[@antoniodangelo9940]

I use heroic warriors. Probably one of the best decks ive played. 1 hit kos alot haha

[@animejacob]

It still baffles me we didn’t get the entire Performage archetype, only like what? 6 cards? When they had an entire myriad of cards in the anime

[@jshtng78]

Another round of wondering why Konami doesn't release something like a 'Last Hope Booster' consisting of nothing but non interactable archetype locked custom card level single cards or small engine packages with encyclopedias in their text box to boost the corresponding dead archetypes immediately to Rogue status. As long as they don't also sell the rest of the archetype it would be a huge boost to the secondary market values too. Everyone wins!

[@fearlesswanderer3319]

I mean you can make heroic/war rocks and it’s an underrated deck depending on what you could use

[@dnd1016]

Honestly, it’s funny that War Rock makes good support for Heroics since both are battle reliant, giving Gactos as well as a boost to the power of the non light Heroics.

[@user-eo3bi5bq7w]

Goblinberg mentioned 😮