Yamaha DTX10K-M Review

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The eDrum Workshop

The eDrum Workshop

Күн бұрын

In-depth review of the Yamaha DTX10K-M electronic drum kit. With all mesh heads, short stack shells and the new DTX-PROX module, is the DTX10K worth buying?
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00:00 - DTX10K Overview
02:53 - Price vs Sizes
04:34 - Feel, Pads & Triggering
14:17 - Other Brand Pads
16:49 - DTX-PROX Module
20:58 - Sounds & Editing Options
27:01 - Advanced Options, Pros & Cons
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@AfrazAhmad01
@AfrazAhmad01 2 жыл бұрын
I have been anxiously waiting for you to review this kit! Thank you so much. So informative!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@tbip2001
@tbip2001 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing real indepth reviews. I'm not aware of any other edrum channels that actually review ro this level of detail.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 I'm glad it's appreciated!
@davidanderson3576
@davidanderson3576 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on review! I've been using this kit live for the past three months with decent results, my only complaint is some of the stock cymbal samples are cringe worthy. Importing my samples from SD3 is tedious as you pointed out. I have asked questions about a computer editor being released but I haven't heard anything, this would be a HUGE help in programming this module. Build quality is a little confusing for a "pro" module (all plastic), I take extra care when transporting. Compared to current electronic guitar & keyboard gear, Electronic drum modules are in my opinion are at least 15 years behind current tech, color displays, drive space & expansions to name a few. Roland & Yamaha need to learn a lesson from companies like Fractal, Neural, Line6 etc.... continue to develop and support the product with updates after release. So far there was one update last December but I'm not holding my breath for anything else.
@t.j.heller8447
@t.j.heller8447 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review Luke! As for using other pads.... Ive run into this with a megadrum with pads that are "too hot" for a module. Adding a 100k ohm resistor to the pad or a 100k ohm potentiometer (linear curve) will drastically reduce the pads output and make it way more usable with a module that likes low output pads.
@BB-doc-fan
@BB-doc-fan Жыл бұрын
That’s a true review 👌🏼 I’ll wait for the updated Yama DTX11 😉
@badproductions1685
@badproductions1685 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review. Keep it going! :)
@danieltaylor4728
@danieltaylor4728 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant in depth review. Well done!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@michaeldumont6896
@michaeldumont6896 Жыл бұрын
Good review. I agree w/ the transient heavy comment. I’ve played w/ a Dtx 900 module for years and just got the pro x. I put it though the PA and had to dial back the attack (transient level) quite a bit because it was just too biting compared to the 900.
@MesaMXR
@MesaMXR 2 жыл бұрын
These new Yamaha modules sound amazing. I honestly wouldn't even want to use a VST with them. I'd love for them to release an updated multipad with these kinds of sounds.
@juuhaa1
@juuhaa1 Жыл бұрын
Real drum sounds👍
@crosswick
@crosswick Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton for mentioning the Audiofront eDRUMin - hadn't heard of it, it's likely to save me a massive amount of cash
@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur Жыл бұрын
That piece of kit looks amazing. Now if they will come out with a foldable version. I will snag one up.
@astronaut2005drummer
@astronaut2005drummer 2 жыл бұрын
Good review! I liked the drum kit.
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters Жыл бұрын
Good review Luke! I think it's a great kit. I actually like the module sounds, even though they don't exactly sound real, they have a cool, slick Yamaha e-drum sound to them. I think I'd definitely be able to dial in some rad tones with one of these.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin! Yeah, you can definitely create some pretty great sounds with it (far more than I had the time to do for this video!)
@bobbyddrums1566
@bobbyddrums1566 Жыл бұрын
real nice great video ,i still cant get rid of my td 30 i had the td 50 brain but sent it back .TD 30 i had 12 years it the best for me and held up the whole time
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this review Luke. I have watched it 3 times already! Absolutely down to fine points I have not seen in any other videos. FYI I knew the toms were single sensor, don't know how.I knew, might have checked out a PDF of the toms at some point. While it's not mentioned in other reviews, I have heard other people mention it. Not sure if it's got the architecture for it, but it would be a massive bonus if Yamaha brought out an iOS/Android app for editing like they did with previous DTX modules.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It's a long review to watch multiple times, I appreciate it haha! I absolutely agree that an app could make things much easier, especially when it comes to the multilayered sample side of things!
@iplaywithsticks6194
@iplaywithsticks6194 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha... we need an iOS app for the new DTX-PRO/X Modules!
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
You really do a great job with these.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I hope you get over to a NAMM show, it'd be nice to say hi and shake your hand.
@cbowerman2851
@cbowerman2851 2 жыл бұрын
TCS Pads are very nice. So the conundrum is....Pearl mimic pro with ATV rack drums and cymbals or the Yamaha with easier knob/slider interface and heavy, big rack. Tough to find a decent gig ready kit that has good sound, quality build and ease of live performance backing tracks and real time user adjustments. As usual, great in-depth review.
@steevidrums
@steevidrums Жыл бұрын
Mimic with TCS pads is a win for me. Though if positional sensing is a deal breaker, ATV. Not a cheap option but It’ll tick all the boxes. Now they have an editor available, your no longer limited (for want of a better expression) to the core library. But I do like this Yamaha kit a lot. Their hardware is as good as they get, I like the TCS surface very well, my personal favourite, though I got the XP pads and not the shell version myself. And this pro module, while not perfect, will certainly be a very good gigging kit.
@markdoolan3424
@markdoolan3424 10 ай бұрын
Yep played the TCS pads today at GuitarGuitar Epsom and was very nice feeling!
@matthewsugden9930
@matthewsugden9930 Жыл бұрын
You’re famous in Lytham! Who would have thought! Nice to meet you.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
It would appear so! 😅 Nice to meet you too!
@TonyDiaz.
@TonyDiaz. 2 жыл бұрын
That real wood finish is actually the same finish that you find on their Yamaha Tour Custom (Caramel Satin); pretty nice finish, if I do say so myself. The black one is pretty standard, but very elegant. That's also on their Tour Custom (Licorice Satin). I think both colours are awesome, but if I had to pick one I'd go with the Caramel colour. It goes out of the standard. As a side note: Roland needs to bring different colors to their VAD line of drums (the 706 does have color variants, though).
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I'd heard that they were finishes that were used on their acoustic kits but it's nice to know the names to match them up! I agree that other variations of the 500 and 300 VAD kits would be nice!
@mikeestatof7508
@mikeestatof7508 Жыл бұрын
« Real wood » finish come from the Recording Custom finish, who have exactly the same color! (« Caramel » finish from Tour custom don’t have exactly the same color!
@mikaellarsson785
@mikaellarsson785 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting review anyway👍
@austake
@austake Жыл бұрын
Wow look at that kick pad moving!!!😗😗
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Once I'd seated the kick pad properly, it didn't move away from me. It does have some give so it sways a bit, but not in a way which affects performance or moves across the ground.
@burakkaragoz4634
@burakkaragoz4634 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for the video. This kit is looking very good. But I see 2 small disadvantage for me. This pcy 175 issue and kick drum is not very stable in this video. It is moving. But when I check Ymaha Dtx 8 video kick drum is looking more stable and there is no ride issue. And module is also very simular to this. and approx 1600 usd more cheaper. Do u think that Yamaha dtx 8 kit is good alternative for 3000 usd price range ?
@harlichkrebs6065
@harlichkrebs6065 2 жыл бұрын
Very good test Luke...i don,t understand Yamaha...Not many Inputs, the Sounds like the other Modul from Yamaha ...small Display and why input on Bassdrumpad?Wen you change the bassdrum to biggerone maby 18 Bassdrum you lost that input...hope comes a Upgrade on that Modul
@AfrazAhmad01
@AfrazAhmad01 Жыл бұрын
This is certainly the most detailed review of this kit on KZbin. How would you say the dtx8k compares in terms of sound, playing feel and value to a vad306 or td27kv considering they cost about the same?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I can't really make any firm conclusions on the DTX8K kits as I've not used them (or the DTX-PRO module) outside of a very quick test at the UK Drum Show. If I make a guess based on my experience with the 10K, I'd imagine the 8K should be pretty competitive with the Roland kits if you like the sound set and features that the PRO module offers, though I do think that the 27's digital pads out-perform the Yamaha 12" snare and 17" ride overall.
@soulslaveone
@soulslaveone Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop It seems to me that Roland is on another level with their digital pads. I`ve got all three and there`s nothing else on the market that can rival the precision and consistency of the Roland digital pads. (Even the new (analog) super-thin 16"/14" crashes are another great "real-feel-level-up".) What about a "best e-hi-hat"-episode with the best from all brands? Or known brands, at least:) The electric hi-hat is in my opinion the most important AND difficult trigger to make (with the nature of a hh with all its expressions/sounds) Would love to see you do a video on it! Spoiler alert: the vh-14d`s will win....an absolute gamechanger that there should be more fuzz about, seems unbeatable combined with SD3. BTW! : Great channel, dude! looking forward to every episode. This is by far the best e-drum channel on youtube:) Greetings from Norway:)
@JiTiAr35
@JiTiAr35 Жыл бұрын
very insightful. Especially at feel, pads, & triggering section. can you do the DTX6 series as well?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏 If Yamaha send one over, or if I end up getting hold of one for any other reason, I'd be happy to.
@JiTiAr35
@JiTiAr35 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thank you. Really appreciate it.
@mikaellarsson785
@mikaellarsson785 2 жыл бұрын
Small clarification. You say that every other aspect of the kit is equal refering to mesh and tcs pad version. This is not true since the snare if the tcs has position sensing and separate rim shot and rims stick function. I know that you mention this at the end but theres a risk that people only listen to the initial statement.😊
@jamescurry7760
@jamescurry7760 10 ай бұрын
Super video. Love your channel. I own an Alesis Crimson 2 SE. I want to upgrade to either the Alesis Strike Pro or this Yamaha DTX10. I cannot decide! All opinions welcome!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
The sounds and features are really personal so definitely listen to as many examples as you can and flick through the manuals or watch plenty of videos to work out which fit your needs best. On the flip side, things like build quality and the components are a little more objective and I think Yamaha is better in that regard - every piece of Alesis gear I've owned has either failed within a year or so or has had some low quality issues. Many people report no issues so you might be fine and no company has a zero failure rate (I've had issues with Roland before and even the ride on this Yamaha kit had its flaws). But it's probably something to factor into the considerations.
@jamescurry7760
@jamescurry7760 10 ай бұрын
@TheeDrumWorkshop Thank you for the reply! I'm swayed to the Yamaha for the reasons you mention around build quality. The rack looks great for the rigours of gigging. Plus I'm in the Yamaha ecosystem with my EAD10. Looks like I need to try out mesh vs TCS for the feel. And somehow decide upon which shell finish. I like them both. Thanks again. Love your advice and expertise in your content. As a new e drummer, it's great to have channels like yours. Top work!
@Drum2
@Drum2 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Seems like a nice kit, but I am a bit bias towards Roland :) and although I have a TD50x Module, I still much prefer using Superior Drummer 3 for my covers. To me, there is no better sound, although the Mimic comes very close of corse :) ....I have a new TD-50K2 Kit, with its TD-50x module and all the Digital elements as standard. Snare, Ride and the new V14 HitHats, so that made it a no brainer for me. And if Im being really picky, the Yamaha modules look like they are from the 70s hehe :)
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Fair enough, it's not for everyone! They all have their strengths. Not sure that Roland modules look much more modern than Yamaha ones though 😅
@jser4040
@jser4040 8 ай бұрын
Korek!!! Lol
@WilfredFumbly
@WilfredFumbly 4 ай бұрын
Once you remove the drum shells, cymbals, brain, kick pedal etc, can the rack be folded for easy transport? What does the rack weigh? How small does it fold up? (Thinking of using this for gigs.)
@davidanderson3576
@davidanderson3576 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your videos, getting non biased reviews are a great benefit for those of us who don't have an option to get hands on test before buying!! What software did you use to pull the samples from your VST?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad it helps! For the samples I tried with this module, I actually used my own samples of a snare I recorded. When I do rip samples from VSTs, I use Lustark's SDSE for that! It's a great piece of software.
@davidanderson3576
@davidanderson3576 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I have SDSE and Reaper, do you remember what settings you used? I see there is a Yamaha DTX-multi 12 listed under module, for some reason my dtx pro x wont read the .wav. The yamaha manual is vague on how to go about the process. I checked out Simon E's vids but its unclear on the file size and bit rate.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
@@davidanderson3576 The times that I've used SDSE I've been using the 2box settings because that's what I was using it for. The samples that I loaded to the DTX-PROX were 16bit, 44.1kHz stereo .wav files. I can't remember if it's compatible with other file formats, so it might be best to start there.
@haronthomas1448
@haronthomas1448 Жыл бұрын
Can u review.. Lemon T-950... Update one
@jimharp8655
@jimharp8655 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this amazing in-depth review. My one comment is I feel you gave short shrift to this module's remarkable sample import capabilities. User sample import on the DTXPROX is massively more flexible and powerful than the simple "one-shot" import option on the Roland TD50X and other top-of-the-line units. Being able to create up to 10 layers of velocity switching with up to four round-robins is huge, and 256 MB of 16 bit 44.1k samples should be plenty to future-proof this module sound-wise.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 23 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it! I agree that the sample import is more advanced and useful than Roland modules, especially with the number of layers you can use. However, I don't really agree that 256mb is enough for a large number of round robins on multiple instruments. If you built instruments with a few samples on a few layers then you could probably get a decent number out of it, but I have snares that will nearly fill that sample memory. The process for loading large amounts of samples and assigning them is an absolute chore too, so much so that it sucked the interest out of it for me entirely. I'm pretty sure that's what I got across in the review, but it's been a while! If there was some kind of PC/Mac editor, it could be way easier and more flexible, imo.
@jimharp8655
@jimharp8655 22 күн бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks in part to your informative review I just picked up one of these modules which I'm going to integrate into an older Yamaha DTX900 based kit with silicon pads. I suppose I'm showing my age with my perspective on the sample memory capacity. Of course more memory would always be better, but I vividly remember struggling to fit drum kits into less than a megabyte of ram on an Akai S900. (We sure didn't have computer editors back then either.). 256 MB is the sample capacity of two loaded Emulator EIVs, or eight of the new Roland SPDSX Pros. That's certainly enough room to create some interesting instruments if care is taken, and the flexibility with regards to velocity layers and round-robins that Yamaha offers here is priceless. If you truly have a single snare drum that nearly uses up that much sample memory I'll respectfully recommend a bit more craftsmanship with regards to use of resources.
@steevodrums4749
@steevodrums4749 2 ай бұрын
Hi...to your channel..one question if you like...is it possible to add an extra 10" pad on the upper rack so 3 across instead of 2 and 1 extra 12" pad on lower rack ..is there enough room for that...thanks
@martymcgarvey
@martymcgarvey Жыл бұрын
Can this module be use with superior drummer?
@chinatype
@chinatype 2 жыл бұрын
I already have the Roland TD27KV but when I was in London I called into the large Yamaha store there and tried this kit out. I honestly think the Roland is of better quality module wise and feel with the Roland mesh heads. I was expecting it to be better than it was. Just my opinion.
@endzore1151
@endzore1151 6 ай бұрын
Bit late to comment on this but I was incredibly set on buying the dtx-8 from a drum store and apon arriving, tested playing the td-27 and then the dtx-10 and honestly thought the exact same thing. I bought neither and settled on the td-50, basically the same kit as the 27 but with a different module which was a little more expensive 😅 but in my opinion 100x times nicer to play than the dtx-10, especially with the cymbals and hi-hat
@GeorgeFalconer
@GeorgeFalconer 10 ай бұрын
Been doing some intense looks at e drums. As an acoustic player for 50 (!) years, I can see e drums as a viable alternative to my Yamaha Absolute Maple for my home studio and (probably) gigs. I've really enjoyed your insightful and no nonsense reviews. If I could ask your advice? I really like Yamaha gear, and the DTX10K-M sounds less processed to my ears than the Roland VAD507 I've also shortlisted. I plan using the kit in my wee project studio to do tracks for my bands. I will probably use VST's for this. I'd also like to play the kit live if I can make the psychological leap / comfort blanket from using an acoustic kit. The live set function would be really useful, the ability to have a click on my in ears, plus inputs allowing me to mix the drums / backing tracks / click with the rest of the band via the desk. SO, my questions if I may... The Roland VAD507 looks heavy. Would I be right in this assumption? The Roland sounds appear really processed. (I'm listening to the video clips on Genelec monitors, and trying to allow for the reduced sound quality on KZbin) I like the sounds F Note are putting on their kits, and it appears to me the Yamaha may be closer sonically than the Roland to that - or am I talking pish? :) I'm not too bothered about an e kit looking as much as possible as an acoustic kit. Obviously I'm trying to swing my opinion to the DTX, which I would probably prefer. Would appreciate some no nonsense Northern opinions from you, or from any of the others on here. Thanks in advance.
@andreoproprio
@andreoproprio 8 ай бұрын
I can only comment on the Yamaha sound, as I do have one (DTX8K-X kit), and yes they do sound much more realistic than Roland, and the resolution and fine detail is much higher when actually listening on headphones than on KZbin.
@nikoskonstas5942
@nikoskonstas5942 Жыл бұрын
Nice set... But i will buy gewa g9...
@omarurtiaga5024
@omarurtiaga5024 Жыл бұрын
Hi excellent video ! what would you say is the best e drum monitor for this kind of drumkit,and headphones?maybe you had a video topi here ;)
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
I use Sony 7506s. They are comfortable and sound true. No excessive bass or highs. Check reviews. I use a Simmons DA200 amp. Very nice. They make alot of different models. Keyboard amps can work too because they can cover the full range of sound that a guitar amp isnt really designed for.
@JesusLordOfLords455
@JesusLordOfLords455 2 жыл бұрын
As the samples on the ATV ad5 are real samples uncompressed and raw can we have a video on how good they sound and how to best mix them quickly?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I no longer own an aD5 module so that's not something I can really do, sorry!
@daveseemerollin6357
@daveseemerollin6357 10 ай бұрын
Hi Luke, What do you think of the new prices? Dtx10-m now £2600-2700 Dtx8-m £2000 Dtx8-x £2700 I got to try out the dtx8-x + 10m yesterday and was pleasantly surprised with the TCS pads, they felt bloody lovely. Also the Pcy175 had the same choke issue!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
These prices are much more enticing, for sure! I think you're getting a lot for the money there compared to other kits available and it turns a good option into a pretty great one. Shame about the PCY-175. I'm not sure why the transition to an extra few inches seems to have made the edge zone work less optimally.
@benjaminl.6608
@benjaminl.6608 6 ай бұрын
wait, the TCS pad snare allow for seamless transition in to a crossstick and rim shot? Are you sure about that?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
I believe the TCS snare pads have 3 dedicated zones - head, cross-stick and rimshot. The rim is effectively split in half for each articulation.
@BurningHearts70
@BurningHearts70 2 жыл бұрын
It would be really great if these modules could accommodate an external hard drive with your preferred VST loaded on it and trigger them right from the module…I am sure a skilled electronic tech could design such a module and it would be a great product
@jwc3104
@jwc3104 2 жыл бұрын
Such drum module exists.. Called Pearl MiMic Pro with 120gb SSD loaded with VST.
@BurningHearts70
@BurningHearts70 2 жыл бұрын
@@jwc3104 I am aware of those, they do not utilize an external hard drive where you could use multiple different VST’s or whatever one you wanted. Not just Steven Slate.
@kevinwhite6176
@kevinwhite6176 2 жыл бұрын
the problem with doing that is that a VST is a sound engine + set of samples + mapping of the samples to velocities, and so you'd need to be able to run the VST or you'd have to somehow map up all the samples yourself and have a sound engine that could do the right thing in terms of humanizing.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose to do something like this it would effectively need to be a trigger I/O, an audio interface and compact computer that can run software rolled into one.
@BurningHearts70
@BurningHearts70 2 жыл бұрын
I have Superior drummer 3 on an exterior hard drive which I trigger through my computer to Strike pro module. It works pretty good no latency issues, just have to figure out cymbal chokes, but it would be sweet if someone developed an I-pad/module hybrid that you could plug an external hard drive and trigger and change any VST whenever you want.
@skirwan78
@skirwan78 Жыл бұрын
do you know where you can get the Zouman 2 into 1 cable adapter I can't seem to find them?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
zourman.com/product/roland-atv-3-zone-ride-conversion-cable-for-yamaha-3-zone-connection/ 😃
@NIKKO500
@NIKKO500 Жыл бұрын
Hello What is the less noisy e drum set you have tried?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Most mesh electronic kits are about as noisy as each other, to be honest. Usually the smaller pad kits are a little bit quieter than ones with larger shells but it's not a huge difference and you might not notice outside of the room. The loudest parts for your neighbours are usually the hi-hat and kick drum pedals vibrating through the walls and floor. Isolated pedals like the Roland FD-9 (hi-hat) or KT-10 (kick) are usually a little quieter than full stands and kick drum pads, but minimising vibration through the floor will probably help more.
@marknorton2429
@marknorton2429 2 жыл бұрын
The Pro is harder to get around in than the ProX. There is a menu inside a menu inside a menu.
@cSounds49
@cSounds49 Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have to pay $700 to simply get more user friendly menus. 25 years ago I had a Roland module that had "jump to" shortcut buttons to go to your most used settings. You could set the shortcuts yourself. DTX-Pro has nothing like it. The most basic settings, especially trigger settings, have a ridiculous amount of sub menus to get to the most basic functions.
@SydneyDrums
@SydneyDrums Жыл бұрын
Yamaha make full size acoustic drums .. why aren’t they used on E kits ?!?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
It still surprises me that they don't leverage that! One argument is that it would be really expensive for the silicone heads to go up to 14" for a snare or floor tom and I guess they wouldn't want a mesh kit to offer a size that the silicone doesn't? Still seems a bit weird to me though, someone would buy it!
@FVDaudio
@FVDaudio 2 жыл бұрын
So... The sound module of yamaha with another snare, tom pads with better trigger system brand.
@Garagedrummer
@Garagedrummer 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how everyone else glossed over the floor tom now having the 3 trigger design.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had to check with them as I was surprised I hadn't heard anything about it before I got the kit.
@Garagedrummer
@Garagedrummer 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop But to be totally fair I am big fan of Yamaha and I am sure if they didn’t trigger great as is they would have included the 3 triggers in all the drums. To my ear the kits in the DTXpro sound pretty great in stock form.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, they absolutely trigger fine! I've rarely had issues with side triggers.
@Garagedrummer
@Garagedrummer 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Now what Yamaha needs to do is merge these new modules and the EAD10. It would be cool to have the DTXpro and ProX have an input for the EAD mic/trigger.
@galgogergo
@galgogergo Жыл бұрын
I always liked Yamaha cymbals. So good looking, and the all-cymbals-3 zones via one cable approach is brilliant as you said. The rack is indestructible, and the module is built like a tank, while I also like the UX on it, with all the knobs-with-LEDs instead of plain faders. HOWEVER. This amount of machine gunning is unacceptable in the 2020s IMO. It's unbelievable how they didn't think of that, round robin samples is not that new of an invention... Even a Roland TD-07 module machine guns less than this 'flagship' module, which should have solved this much better than this... Sorry, I still cannot fathom why can't someone make a decent edrum kit without main limitations :(
@andreoproprio
@andreoproprio 8 ай бұрын
I have an Yamaha and I beg to disagree, I don't have any machine gunning with my kit, with trigger settings done properly. The only issue that translates into what you might call "machine gunning" is (imho) the poorly setup crossfading between samples when hit in short and fast repetition, like in a snare flame. To my ears it sounds like the attack on the most recent samples should be smaller (there should be a cross-fade between the two samples) and that can sound like machine gunning at times, and specially on compressed audio. But the module is great, there is round robin with 4 sames per velocity.
@STUDIO-cover-tunanetra
@STUDIO-cover-tunanetra Жыл бұрын
Good god
@michaldobosz7492
@michaldobosz7492 Жыл бұрын
I think pearl mimic pro sounds better
@poxcr
@poxcr 3 ай бұрын
9:14 This is unacceptable for a flagship product and quite a step back from older models. My 12+ year old DTX900 with the cheaper rubber pads provides different articulations for pad center, rimshot and rim only. There's even a designated area on the rim for cross-sticking, making them effectively 3 zone pads.
@user-up2oe9fp3c
@user-up2oe9fp3c Жыл бұрын
なぜこういう解説動画が日本語で出ないのだろう?
@steffenbrix
@steffenbrix Ай бұрын
I wish some reviews would play soft...way too hard hitting all the time...
@raygsbrelcik5578
@raygsbrelcik5578 Жыл бұрын
I can't handle those electronic kits; They don't look the same...they don't even sound the same. I can change heads, and tune my drums in whatever way I choose----and they LOOK Cool!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Different tools.for different jobs, though with a fair amount of cross-over. They're not for everyone!
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
But can you play them at 1am? Noise is a big factor for most buyers. I have acoustics also, but edrums are alot of fun.
@raygsbrelcik5578
@raygsbrelcik5578 Жыл бұрын
@@johndef5075 I hear ya---but I only enjoy playing the REAL thing. Next thing they'll design, is a 'Set no bigger than a Dinner plate; Ya' play it with your fingers... No thanks----Old school ALL THE WAY for me, my friend!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
They've existed for some time 😅
@raygsbrelcik5578
@raygsbrelcik5578 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I should've known!
Жыл бұрын
wow. this is what you get when a roland fan review other brands' products
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Care to expand?
@krenwregget7667
@krenwregget7667 Жыл бұрын
do you really not know about this drum rack? It's the Yamaha Hex Rack II and it's the best drum rack on the market... PERIOD. How do you not know this?
@gregoryrogalsky6937
@gregoryrogalsky6937 Жыл бұрын
Small pads, ugly plastic cymbals. The drums sound good. Good review.
@daveseemerollin6357
@daveseemerollin6357 10 ай бұрын
OK boomer
@gregoryrogalsky6937
@gregoryrogalsky6937 10 ай бұрын
@@daveseemerollin6357 so long as your happy.
@daveseemerollin6357
@daveseemerollin6357 10 ай бұрын
I mean what do you expect? Plastic, rubber coated cymbals are the quietest. These are for practising and not disturbing neighbours. If you want metal cymbals get an acoustic kit instead. And yes I'm very happy with my Td50kv. But this looks amazing for £2600.
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 2 ай бұрын
The drums are comparable to Roland and some of them sound better but the Cymbals just don’t sound as good as Roland.
@MGort-bb8op
@MGort-bb8op 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest.. I find the yamaha to not sound that good..
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
That's fair!
@cemguler183
@cemguler183 Жыл бұрын
ATV toms don't hotspot
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Pretty much any trigger hotspots if you hit directly on top of the piezo cone, ATV included. Very mild though and no centre hotspot which is most important for a lot of people!
@jezusmylord
@jezusmylord 2 жыл бұрын
i really dont like the look of this cymbals
@Drum2
@Drum2 Жыл бұрын
me either :)
@marknorton2429
@marknorton2429 2 жыл бұрын
Every time you make a minor change to a kit, Number one you have to save it and number two it makes a whole new kit in user kits! I absolutely hate this! I have five user kits now of the same original kit! Stupid!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
It's certainly awkward! I can only imagine there must be some weird hardware reason for it, otherwise I have no idea why it hasn't been changed!
@iplaywithsticks6194
@iplaywithsticks6194 Жыл бұрын
Just save over the original kit... no need to have multiple versions if you do not want them.
@jaquesels581
@jaquesels581 Жыл бұрын
Made in China.
@davo0593
@davo0593 2 жыл бұрын
If only artesia would send you an efnote kit 🥲
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
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