The Curious Case of Fallout's Last President

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The Fallout universe has until now, worked hard to conceal any information about America's prewar presidents. So today, we work hard to un-conceal such info. Diving deep into game files, holodisks and recent revelations made by Fallout 76, we investigate the last President of the United States' identity.
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Timecodes:
0:00 Introduction and basic preamble
4:05 Fallout 1 Revelations
8:22 Fallout 2 Revelations
17:52 Fallout 3 Revelations
25:53 Fallout 4 Revelations
35:18 Fallout 76 Revelations

[@TheEpicNate315]

Get Immersed in V Rising NOW on PC! store.steampowered.com/app/1604030/V_Rising/?TheEpicNate315 And Wishlist on PlayStation Wishlist on PlayStation: playstation.com/games/v-rising/ Some notes- -The 'Di' letter in Fallout 76 was recently reinstated to contain the accurate faded signature. -An additional letter in the Prime Minister's cabin suggests the date of his meeting with POTUS was November 16th, though no year was provided. (Persuade) What do you think about this mystery?

[@patrickiamonfire965]

You casually used sus.

[@matthimfsmfs7194]

Hey, a game sponsor that actually seems cool 🫵

[@ModernOddity728]

My theory with that convoy is the president (or body double possibly?) got a warning that nuclear bombs were on the way and got an emergency airlift with just enough room to fit everyone but the poor limousine driver.

[@duphasdan]

I bet the body near the limousine is the newly elected president Di, the one impeached for jaywalking and hiding for months probably to hide from threats. And the previous president and Enclave member being Bagman still giving orders like he is still president. The newspaper thinking the president is at the oil rig is probably due to members of the Enclave considering and treating the former president as the real president, which is why he was able to give orders despite Di being the elected president. The Enclave are the type to subvert the whole government considering their past actions.

[@mysfeori6510]

can you please make a starfield 10 evil choices video, your videos for f4 and skyrim are the main reason i got so invested in those games

[@miniwheat7873]

Hey nate hows it going, guys here.

[@BushidoBanks]

😅😅😅

[@TheEpicNate315]

I'm so sleepy

[@apocalypticpioneers2116]

@@TheEpicNate315 Hi so sleepy, I'm dad

[@Toddgarvey]

@@TheEpicNate315eepy

[@azuremystwow603]

@@TheEpicNate315get some rest buddy 🎉

[@lexus8018]

Fun fact: During development Bethesda kept the making of the white house on the back burner so long that when they were approaching release they realized the white house was still not completed. There wasn't time to make a full building/interior so they just made it a crater

[@kiezer21]

I think it works better that way tbh

[@TF2CrunchyFrog]

That works. nice symbolism.

[@alexbrown9622]

It’s very appropriate but I wish we’d have the lore that would have inevitably been found inside

[@lGipsyDanger]

​@alexbrown9622 I'd have loved a half destroyed bunker there or under the pentagon

[@Bawgle]

tbf why *wouldnt* Vault Tec drop it there

[@cyprusmiraque]

"Hey devs, what can you tell us about this bunker we found?" "You WHAT?!?"

[@PhillyCh3zSt3ak]

With the existence of people like Josh from "Let's Game it Out" and other dataminers, you'd think they wouldn't include it right away and would be going through it with a fine toothed comb to make sure things that shouldn't be there weren't there.

[@noonookinz4560]

@@PhillyCh3zSt3akI realize that most of these “higher ups” aren’t as smart as we think they are

[@hydrixs6996]

"Placeholder, DO NOT USE" *proceeds to use in malice*

[@jcraigie]

In what way was he malicious?

[@OktoberVanderslice]

@@jcraigie psst... It's a joke

[@jcraigie]

@@OktoberVanderslice nah, jokes are funny.

[@Notjustakid2007]

Not necessarily, your life is a joke and it's just mainly really sad​ @jcraigie

[@jcraigie]

@@Notjustakid2007 LMAO. Do you have an answer for my original question? You're boring otherwise.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

The only president I recognize is John Henry Eden, President of the Enclave, President of America, President of your Hearts.

[@victorochoa3662]

God bless America.. And no one else.

[@Spoopball]

I love the radio message about how he might have not been voted into office, and his response was "trust me bro"

[@GermanTankAce2]

God Bless

[@thecosmicentity5597]

Too bad he's a dirty machine

[@Tyler-f00k1n]

No you're wrong. President Dave is the President of my Heart.

[@2468doo]

Love the ‘placeholder - do not use’ image 😂

[@H.Perevell]

It is great.

[@seanmcelroy6222]

This comment for number 1. let's send it to the top!

[@TheRabidPanda]

I actually missed the information because the picture distracted me.

[@thatgirlfromthecraft]

it’s the cutest damn doodle 10/10

[@IanBPPK]

It better stay 😂

[@captainweekend5276]

The British Prime Minister being at Rapidan Camp when the bombs fell is a pretty major revelation since it implies quite a few things. First, that the UK at this point had not devolved into anarchy as a result of the resource wars, and was a functioning nation, perhaps even a regional or global power. Second, that it's possible that pre-war the Enclave were looking to recruit politicians from other nations into the organisation, perhaps giving the Enclave global ambitions post-war, the reconquering of America being only the first step towards global domination.

[@guytech7310]

Perhaps a reference to the Lord Rothchild than the PM of UK.

[@recurvestickerdragon]

I have a feeling the president was never even going to meet him there, and it was all just bait

[@Gyrfalcon312]

I wonder if FOLON Team factored this in, when worldbuilding for Fallout: London...

[@thebrittaniondragon6183]

If the UK was still a major power and assuming that both the UK and Canada still have the monarchy wouldn't the UK be super angry at the US annexation of Canada could they realistically do anything about it? No, additionally the implication that the UK is a sovran entity outside the European Commonwealth could imply that Brexit is cannon in the fallout universe

[@betheguy_posts]

Putting an Enclave base in Norfolk (spesifically the Norfolk Naval Base) makes a lot of sense considering how military-centric Norfolk is in real life. Driving around while having a military drone flying overhead watching for traffic violations every day was a surreal experience that took some getting used to.

[@shaunt.r.w7902]

the entire east of coast of Virginia, especially closer to the south near the mouth of the Chesapeake bay would be a perfect spot for a fallout game. NASA, Langley, the naval weapons station, the Atlantic fleet headquarters, Oceania, old Yorktown, the battlefield, the shipyard. it is one of the most defended and staffed areas of the United states, and would definitely be a perfect fallout location.

[@guytech7310]

Mount Weather makes more sense

[@shaunt.r.w7902]

@@guytech7310 mount weather is a single isolated broadcasting station, Norfolk and the surrounding townships are full of military bases from all different branches.

[@guytech7310]

@@shaunt.r.w7902 fort belvoir, Washington's homestead in Mount vernon. Jamestown. Lots of potential sites for another game.

[@guytech7310]

@@shaunt.r.w7902 I believe there is much more to Mt weather than a simple telecom site From OSINT: "The Mount Weather Special Facility is a Continuity of Government (COG) facility operated by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). The 200,000 square foot facility also houses FEMA’s National Emergency Coordinating Center. " "Army Corps of Engineers completed the “Area B” underground complex in 1958-1959. Total construction costs, adjusted for inflation, are estimated to have exceeded $1 billion. " "lthough the facility is designed to accomodate several thousand people (with sleeping cots for 2,000), only the President, the Cabinet, and Supreme Court are provided private sleeping quarters." "The underground bunker includes a hospital, crematorium, dining and recreation areas, sleeping quarters, reservoirs of drinking and cooling water, an emergency power plant, and a radio and television studio which is part of the Emergency Braodcasting System. A series of side-tunnels accomodate a total of 20 office buildings, some of which are three stories tall. " Mt Weather is also between WV and Camp Rapidian.

[@rabidwallaby84]

A popular codename for the Whitehouse is Olympus...where Zeus and the other gods lived. I think it's a safe bet that they're alluding to Zeus being the President and Bagman tasked Mr Osborne with taking him out.

[@swiftfated]

Especially with the black briefcase next to his skeleton. Presidents usually have the nuclear briefcase handcuffed to their wrist in war tv shows

[@rowan7149]

@@swiftfated Not handcuffed. It’s carried by an aide who is always nearby at all times.

[@nwil22]

I think Zeus was pres and bagman was vp?

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

Edit: I take it back, the Vice President is also given a nuclear football and biscuit, to be used if something happens to the President. So it is possible VP Bagman had the President shot and then had to use the nukes. But we haven't received much of any indication before now of that and that is an extremely small window. The problem with that is that Bagman sends the launch orders and codes, something he would need both the nuclear football and the nuclear biscuit for. And the biscuit is kept on the President's person at all times. Of course that is presuming it is the actual nuclear football and not a fake that was swapped in by Bagman. But even then the executive order would be coming from the president, not the VP and the terminals would be giving the President's name not the VP's.

[@omegavalwin]

the president is at control station enclave it cant be him.

[@dustinfreeman4189]

My personal theory is that Zeus was the final American president, and Bagman was the Enclave’s chosen president. So there were two presidents, and the Enclave orchestrated the assassination to remove the opposition/avoid a potential power struggle. They wanted their chosen President to be solely in power.

[@finalfantasymad]

Yep this is my takeaway as well. My only further takeaway is that Bagman was probably someone very high in power in the standard government as well. I think he is likely the VP and as you said chosen leader of the Enclave. The president being killed would also give him nuclear authority and make him both the Enclave and American President upon his successful Coup which would tie up that potential loose end. His name also suggests he "brings the money" as "Bagman". So he is ether a paid off corrupt official or a very powerful businessman who also has political power.

[@Seventh_Bean]

Isn't that basically confirmed? The Enclave slowly took hold of the U.S. Government in the years leading up to 2077.

[@ranondo92]

The secretary of the treasury would be bag man and Zeus would be the president

[@matti.8465]

But people like Eddie Winter found out about the bombs ahead of time because of contacts. There's no way the actual president would have been completely clueless.

[@eeyun5279]

The VP never got where he was going though, according to the messages in whitesprings. Makes me consider him

[@Zal0vid]

This tells me that we're getting an Enclave quest line in 76.

[@ComradeMercy]

There already is the enclave quest line?

[@GamingYoshi64]

​@@ComradeMercylike a revamped one not the base game story one

[@thehucklebillyfenn]

I think that Bagman is an actual name just because the name “Di BAGman” sounds like something Fallout devs would name a politician. 😂

[@williamfoekema4187]

funny how the skeleton of "zeus" is missing its head and a soldier was still trying to give him a stimpak, that's some grim fallout humor for ya

[@kyokyodisaster4842]

"A stem will fix it! I'm not in denial!!!" - that soldier clearly in over his / her head.

[@Futureguitarist15]

I don't think they'd intentionally go this dark but... assassination... missing head... someone trying to fix the missing head...

[@BinkDeadpool]

JFK reference maybe?

[@aviatorengineer3491]

The sniper could have only wounded the target at first and then made a follow-up shot after the guy with the stimpak was taken care of, perhaps.

[@rearcangeli]

@@BinkDeadpool my thoughts exactly

[@uninspiredgaming9963]

The convoy, the briefcase, the codename "Zeus"; that all makes me think he's carrying the Nuclear Football.

[@ltdbob]

Highly doubt they would transport the nuclear football in just a limo.

[@nwil22]

I think Zeus was pres and bagman was vp?

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

​@ltdbob the limo had a military escort and is simply carried by a White House aide. Which is more than can be said about the time President Clinton left the aide holding the football behind at a NATO summit and the aide had to walk back to the White House. Or the time President Ford's aides lost the nuclear football at a summit in Paris. Or the time Clinton lost the codes to use the nuclear football for months.

[@twistedyogert]

​@@elysiankentarchy1531 How did that happen? Aren't the codes normally inside the football anyway?

[@kingofhearts3185]

​@@twistedyogert That's the nuclear biscuit. It's a different item.

[@mrasco317]

27:52 why hello there Todd, you don't have to stare so menacingly ya know.

[@yuki3034]

😂😂😂

[@notreallydaedalus]

I can feel him judging me

[@Hangman1313]

50:20 You mention that the President and VP aren't properly addressed in the entry on screen but it definitely shows the President got the message and proceeded to PR_002 but that it was the Vice President whose message was never confirmed.

[@grelca]

lol right? “V Pres” is pretty clearly vice president and not a second message to the president.

[@arklainquirk]

yeah, it clearly says "Pres" and "V Pres" I had to rewatch that part a few times trying to figure out where it said Pres a 2nd time until I figured it out.

[@spencerfidelis]

"Harold Osborne" ...Harvey Oswald... Zeus was the big pres, I'm sold

[@TankHammer]

Yeah, my immediate thought too. It would be a hell of a lore twist!

[@Moomoo254]

Bumping in case this turns out to be true

[@robertferron4134]

Zeus huh.. I guess Olympus has fallen

[@michaelostergren3516]

Now that you say that, it absolutely must be what is being referenced.

[@MrHorsey420]

Harold was a descendant of ozzy

[@PrimevalRedDragon10]

I have a theory that Bagman is actually the Vice President. He probably acted as the president’s (Zeus) bagman receiving and distributing the illicit funds for the Enclave project hence the code name. This might have caused him to be in closer contact with other Enclave members than the president which allowed him to seamlessly take command when he ordered for the sniper to take out Zeus leaving him in charge regardless because of chain of command. I also find it interesting that the VP is the only member to have a “message sent” notification for the early warning system.

[@Cthulhuvong]

This is my view. Bagman can be slang for a corrupt politician who takes bribes, such as one working with the Enclave. Zeus would more than likely be the President (White House has been codenamed Olympus by presidential security). My theory is the President knew nothing about the Enclave, and was a patsy while VP was the true power broker.

[@erickrasniewski567]

​@Cthulhuvong or in classic Enclave fashion the VP turned on thr President because he wanted power or they disagreed about something remember Autumn vs Eden in the Capital Wasteland

[@tomas_iss7469]

@@Cthulhuvongwait isn’t this all like Zootopia’s plot

[@brianm.595]

Did you ever talk to the vice president in fallout 2? His stat sheet must have featured 1 intelligence. 😂 I dont think he was capable of anything besides walking and breathing. Look up a video of his conversations with the chosen one.

[@rock27729]

@@brianm.595 fallout 2 is in 2241

[@gagewarner6502]

I'd love to watch Nate play through the games, even on an easy difficulty, and just explain the lore as he encounters it, discovers new things, and goes over connections. Even if Nate then still made these videos to go in depth over new details because in the moment you can only recall so much

[@ianmackay2976]

I think PR_002 is closer to a "Presidential Retreat 002" then "Poseidon Rig 002". I mean I think they designate the same place, the first one just sounds more official.

[@wunnup3229]

0:47 The identity of Fallout's final American President is a mystery that has baffled every Man and Woah-Man in the wasteland.

[@Despondencymusic]

😂😂

[@doobzsalam1847]

Men of Wo

[@EdgarRazorlip]

Woe man

[@sierra1513]

Goddamn Wömen

[@kozad86]

Even the Yes Man is baffled.

[@Pandaman735]

Harold Osborne: “You know, I’m something of a patriot myself.”

[@lucyinchat]

That’s a quote from Norman Osborne, Harold Osborne is his son.

[@KOSMOS1701A]

if fallout 3 had an equivalent of the Wild Wasteland perk, a glowing one in the white house remains named "Mr. President" would have been just beautiful.

[@kafaIsShort]

The Rapidan Camp bunker might just a be a further future update than skyline valley and some devs might have just wanted to work on it early, who knows maybe we’ll get a better Enclave quest line

[@FireFox64000000]

I love the fact that they straight up added in something they weren't supposed to then went "whoopsie Daisy"

[@kozad86]

Probably work they've done for another upcoming update or cut content. Hopefully we'll get it along with the rest of the Whitesprings bunker for some Modus DLC. 🙏🏼

[@BinkDeadpool]

Anyone else notice Todd staring at us at parts of the video? Stella from Honest Hearts: "God damn creepy."

[@christiansmith4676]

I just commented wondering if anyone noticed 😂😂

[@Mavomatic]

27:27 That's an impressive artistic rendition of a Mr. Gutsy

[@RichiePootle]

I like to think that ‘Bagman’ was the vice president, and he had called out a hit on the president (Zeus). Sadly, Harry Osborne messed up and killed Bagman by mistake (the skeleton with the bag…). That would explain why messages were sent to the president and VP, but there’s no confirmation the VP had received his (he was dead) Perhaps, as the VP rushed to safety while the bombs fell, he had been hit in the chest by Osborne’s first shot. While the soldier got the med-kit, the VP desperately launched nukes at China, only for Osborne’s second attempt to be a head shot

[@guytech7310]

Seems to point to Zeus was VP as the president made it to PR. the message to VP was never acknowledged.

[@somewelshguy5388]

My theory is that 'Zeus' was the CEO/Owner/major shareholder of Poseidon Energy. Zeus, as king of the Olympians, is the only figure who'd have authority over Poseidon. Maybe Zeus was trying to force the Enclave off of the Poseidon Oil Rig, hence the assassination?

[@maxence2915]

Then why would he be escorted by the military? ZEUS is most likely a government official, wich one is the question tho

[@somewelshguy5388]

@@maxence2915 Being a businessman and being a government official aren't mutually exclusive. Look at how many irl American politicians either own or have shares in large companies. Their last president is the perfect example

[@finalfantasymad]

I think you are on the right track but not 100% there. My take is this, gonna lay it out as bullet points that are not in fully order; this will be a bit ramble. Apologies for my yapping in advance. Bagman - suggesting the man who brings the money is more likely to be that CEO/Major power. - Agreed makes total sense. Likely is the person behind Poseidon Energy and maybe even has hands in Vault-Tec as well. Bagman gets elected as the Chosen President of the Enclave in the new world and proceeds to clean up any messes in his way (the standing president being the biggest one) This makes him the first president of the enclave but not the president of the US as he is still alive. The Whitehouse codename is Olympus - Which would suggest anyone using codename Zeus has to be the president. Bagman likely was also a high ranking official in the standard government. I believe he was the VP. Bagman uses his authority to set up the coup d'etat by putting people in places to ensure anyone who could or would likely stand against him or were in his way were killed. He needed the president dead before the bombs dropped as it would mean that nuclear authority would automatically pass to him. This resolves the issue above also that his is now president of both the enclave and US upon the successful coup.

[@michaelostergren3516]

​@finalfantasymad I wonder if Bagman was the guy that was behind the glass in the fallout show during the vault tech meeting

[@MikeHunt-zy3cn]

​@maxence2915 Academi: "Allow us to introduce ourselves." But seriously. If this corpo is as big as we are lead to believe, it isn't unlikely they just hire a PMC for protection. Although I agree that it's more likely to be the President.

[@Alibium]

President Nate? And this is… your presidential speech? Sign me up

[@xt43]

I've gotta say, I'm happy for you man, it's really refreshing to hear you having so much fun with this one. From your voiceover alone it's audible you're having a blast

[@TheSorrel]

What I find interesting about this is that it shows that the Enclave wasn't this omnipotent force that played everyone like a damn fiddle. People where onto them, to the point that they might have had to set their plans into motion prematurely or didn't have enough time to prepair completely. Maybe the people investigating the Enclave before the bombs fell, while failing in the short term, actually lead to the Enclaves downfall some hundreads years later.

[@youremaidenless4452]

Was worried about how to spend my chemo treatment, but now I’m glad I can spend it watching the new Nate video distraction free 😭🙏🏻💖

[@TheEpicNate315]

Wish you well, love the avatar ❤️

[@AshleyWilliamsN7]

Tell the nurse your nauseous, tell them Phenergan is the only thing that works for you, and have them push it through your port. Then you can sleep through it.

[@justindoucette9242]

I’m proud of you!

[@katrose5179]

@@AshleyWilliamsN7Jesus don’t tell them that. Phenagran allergic reactions are severe. I have it. Unless you KNOW person is okay with the med, telling them to push it could kill them.

[@AshleyWilliamsN7]

@@katrose5179 If your on chemo, you know if you have that allergy because the zofran they start with doesn't do anything to help.

[@humpythewarlock]

I love the placeholder mr gutsy image

[@docjessmonster]

@TheEpicNate315 I just want to say thank you for getting me through the pandemic and through my classes all these years. I graduate medical school this month, and through all the stress, I had your videos to watch when I went to bed. As long as you keep making videos, I’ll keep watching them. I know I’ll need to sit back and relax at the end of the day during residency! Thanks again so much!

[@krim7]

I really love how you break & laugh at the content, and also get really excited by the reveals too. It is a blast to listen to as I explore Appalachia for the first time!

[@Severalotters]

Ran into my neighbor and they mentioned the new fallout show, and i was like, yeah but have you seen the epic Nate videos on KZbin and we both went "how's it going guys Nate here" at the same time 😂 found another fan in the wild!

[@uninspiredgaming9963]

Oh shoot, the oil rig also has giant statue heads. Could it possibly tie into the greater lovecraftian mystery?

[@uninspiredgaming9963]

Oh he actually brought it up. That's what I get for commenting 10 minutes into the hour long video...

[@elijahfriesen8111]

I love how in the games, most of the buildings that have the statues and the surrounding buildings too are granted protection from the bombs that caused the destruction

[@tanburanbu]

Survivor basis. You simply wouldn't see the destroyed ones.​@@elijahfriesen8111

[@supervilnismaris]

They just like some good head ;) xD

[@jerryswrld]

you’re the best Nate !!! i wish you would put out videos more often but i understand how much hard work you put into these things so thanks man!!!!

[@TradePrinceNodnarb]

You are a god sent gift if information. Working on a fallout rpg campaign set in Kentucky, and i appreciate all the work you guys do and upload

[@Matt-md5yt]

glad you talked about this topic

[@DHurd513]

Truly Epic Nate, got a whole hour of distraction from work THANK YOU!

[@TKsMantis]

Another great video, brother! This is so interesting and I had never even thought about it that much. Thank you for the hard work!

[@TheEpicNate315]

Thanks Mantis-man!!!

[@faithleveque2625]

Loved laying down to see an hour long EpicNate fallout lore video ! Thank you much :3

[@shanepye7078]

Fallout Canada would be interesting. Think of all the vicious animals - moose, bears, wolves, wolverines, Canadian geese, geese wake up every day and choose violence. Imagine an irradiated mutated Canadian goose.

[@user-le6in9nf8l]

Canadian ghouls perhaps?

[@kieramaccourt8717]

Mutated Canadian Geese are an absolutely horrifying thought! Those things are vicious enough already!

[@pixelgamer4985]

Snowy fallout game sounds great

[@dootmarine1140]

@@user-le6in9nf8l "Oh you smoothskins dn't have much issues with radiaton eh"

[@gimzod76]

The fallout hearts of iron 4 mod just added in the Canadian territories

[@karmasjustice1432]

I'm slightly inclined to believe that Zues May have been Fallout's Sec Def. Especially if he wasn't replaced as the Enclave was starting to take over. The SecDef being the highest in the chain of command (second to only the Commander in Chief) would likely be one of the first people Armed Forces Survivors would rally behind if they did not have contact with the President and it would make sense to take him out so that any Armed Forces Survivors would fall in with the Enclave or whoever was deemed "in charge"? Of course now we know that didn't quite work out as a portion of the survivors created the BOS.

[@karmasjustice1432]

Next theory Video? WHO is Zeus?

[@omegavalwin]

is either him or The vice president

[@lostbutfreesoul]

@@omegavalwin Why did the V. President not reply?

[@omegavalwin]

@@lostbutfreesoul cuz they were after him. clearly he could not trust them

[@MrHolodoc]

@@lostbutfreesoul Uh-- cuz he got his Brains blown out by a Sniper and the Enclave didn't trust him?

[@EpicEvilMonster12]

Great to have you back nate love your stuff cant wait for more

[@blupop861]

Nate this video was SO good! Looking forward to whatever you have next! :)

[@Jerga27]

Thank you Nate, its clear how hard you and everyone worked on this one. I've always felt like the pre-war government was like a cross between a snake eating its own tail and a hydra. It's why the Enclave can keep going even after we kill the current "leader." They're always scheming and shifting the hierarchy, and you never know if you're really finishing the job or just making it easier for someone else to take their turn on the throne

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

Clearly not that hard, if they don't read the actual text, to see that *it is clearly marked that the "No confirmation" warning message was sent to the vice president* and then proceeds to make a completely incorrect speculation, predicated on not actually reading the terminal.

[@FlamesofJagger]

Always good to see a new EpicNate video

[@glprime2814]

On the identity of either "Bagman" or "Zeus", based on the latter's large security and the mention of a briefcase, I believe one of them is the person charged with guarding the codes for the nuclear missiles. I remember a couple of cartoons, movies, comic book stories, and novels labeling this person as "Zeus". Now two reasons I have to doubt this, however, is 1: "Zeus" has been given as a codename for The President himself, as well as other powerful individuals. 2: The last piece of "evidence" is the lack of mentioning the briefcase being handcuffed to his wrist, which is required at all times. Now my reason for also suspecting "Bagman" is mainly due to some media having given said codename to the carrier, as well. My reason for doubting him though is due to not having mentions of a security detail that would be usually be around someone of such importance. Now both of these men being the carrier is based solely on circumstantial evidence from Hollywood and not any factual real world evidence, but considering FO is a videogame universe, real world evidence doesn't always apply. All this said, really enjoyed the video, Nate. 8/10

[@matthewfaubel8702]

You probably hear this a lot, but you have a very soothing voice, and you are only one of three Bethesda Game KZbins that I can listen and fall asleep to.

[@thatonepersonwhoair-dropsy268]

I thought it was gonna be silent for a second at the start 😭

[@Freskabri]

Fantastic video as always! Love watching your longer stuff, as it gives me something to listen to and think about while I'm working on my art. I've never been a huge Fallout guy (at least, never been interested in actually playing the games), but it's very fun to hear the lore and theories you and others come up with. As for thoughts... I assumed the note left for the PM was supposed to allude to the president arriving late and Harry's task being aimed at him! Perhaps the note was still there because it was set out on the same day he was supposed to arrive... and then he never did. That's just my thoughts on it anyway. Very excited to see where this goes!

[@tacotaco1239]

You don’t “trick” MODIS into thinking you’re a member of the Enclave. He invites you to join it.

[@mikejamison4520]

Love the fallout and skyrim lore content you've been pumping out all this time. You are my go to for learning things about these IPs keep it coming I try to watch as much as I can. I've learned so much.

[@kittensoundwave3480]

HEY NATE Just got here, I've rewatched all of your videos, Oxhorn's, and Synonymous'. Both all of the Elder Scrolls and Fallout videos. All the games. I listen to them as a comfort to eb my anxiety, it gives me something to focus on if my mind wanders. Having a new video to hear is great, and I'm happy the show is bringing more videos like this from you and the others. I will say, I didn't hear your background music at first and got a little sad, but then I heard it, just really quiet haha. Once again another great video!

[@UpperDarbyDetailing]

New EpicNate?! This just became a good day.

[@baynorac4724]

The editing jokes throughout the videos make me want to keep watching each time, even though I usually put on videos like this in the back to only listen to while I do other stuff.

[@user-yw3zx8kr9y]

I am so hyped about ur channel growth I’ve been watching u for years and I love the content. Your success is well earned!

[@AmazedBunion]

love that they impeached a president for jaywalking and in real life we have a former president indicted for 91 felonies lolol.

[@Jomit427]

Getting older means less and less people realize the reference to Dan Quale screwing up at a spelling bee.

[@bruhboon3571]

Holy cow! I'll watch this one after a re-up. Love the content

[@frazyfry2]

Been watching your videos for years, I love them keep it up! 😁

[@thomasfrye6335]

Even before watching this, I remembered the bit from the Boston Bugle about the President disappearing, supposedly to an oil rig codenamed Command Station Enclave. Not to the fallout 4 but yet, but I think it’ll be there

[@PhoenicopterusR]

The guy asking a dev about an area he had to glitch into has some serious "asking the teacher if there's homework" energy. Like, buddy, what did you think was going to happen?

[@TheMilitaryMan623]

Your Fallout videos are my favorite to listen to! Keep it up man, hope to see another hour long lore video!

[@G2Bryce]

Hey Nate, just a bit of feedback, I really appreciate that you sped up your pace this time a smidge. The pacing was wonderful and the video was excellent, well done!

[@Dog-bc1lz]

why is todd looking at me like that

[@supervilnismaris]

He be watching for the perfect time to activate "the feature"

[@Stumme-40203]

Just keeping an eye on you. Just in case. 😀

[@helljumper5601]

54:05 Holy shit yes. I’ve been WAITING to see anything about the US Navy in the Fallout games. Having an Enclave presence at Naval Station Norfolk makes PERFECT sense. It allows easy access to the Atlantic Ocean without having to build all sorts of new infrastructure, and any ships that survive the Great War would likely have been at Norfolk. I’m taking this to mean Bethesda has some sort of plans for the Norfolk/Hampton/Newport News area (maybe just some tidbits, maybe something more major that we can look at).

[@Iamonfire007]

The Bagman IS the man with the black suitcase. The Football if you will. Osborne was meant to destroy the motorcade and secure the black bag to ensure the codes were not put in to prevent launch.

[@stephenjenns7083]

Hey nate love to see you're still up and running. I constantly go back to your aliens, and lovecraft videos, even love listening to your mount chiliad video ❤❤

[@Mascifin]

The summit of political and industrial leaders mentioned in the letter to the governor may have been shown in part in the show's season 1 finale.

[@brdg00d1ng]

I was thinking that the mystery man watching over the meeting was the leader of the Enclave/current US President

[@nicholasbrown668]

​@@brdg00d1ngsame, Vault Tec and the Enclave were intertwined, it would make sense for an Enclave agent to influence them

[@ThePretentious1]

I know it’s a way off, but my thinking is that this content is meant for release to coincide with season 2..

[@roosterboy9348]

34:00 honestly the TV show's idea of (TV SPOILERS STOP READING) vault-tec shooting first is more interesting than China shooting over FEV, IMO. It also fixes the plothole of "why does nobody rebuild, why is everyone in crappy shacks? because vault-tec nukes them to have a monopoly on the future.

[@RichiePootle]

Given the connection between the faces on all the buildings and the Lovecraftian conspiracies, my theory is that Vault-tec learnt that Dunwich Borers were trying to turn the whole of the US into a replica of the cities that once served the eldritch horrors. Vault-tec dropped the bombs to stop them. The stuff in the TV show is just them looking for potential backers without giving away what they know

[@JoeBloghead]

Ive been watching a few Fallout videos after the TV show, and this makes for an excellent mystery, both in the developers laying the clues and you as the detective piecing them all together and exploring the possible meanings of each new clue. This video really has the pacing and intrigue of a detective/action novel or film.

[@clairekholin6935]

Interesting fact, the 2 term limit was only imposed post WW2, so it is entirely possible that in fallout the presidents could have longer terms.

[@kyleeggers8029]

Since it's cannon that Vault Tec had a major hand in the bombs dropping - it would be cool if we got a game where Vault Tec had built a special bunker just for the President that contains one of the most horrific experiments they ever cooked up, just to flex their power. Vault Tec flexing on the American Government like that would be awesome. We find the vault that contains the president and he's been twisted, tortured, mutated by Vault Tec since the bombs drop and now he's like an end game boss that we at first rescue and then have to fight.

[@Gravy_moat]

It could be a vault where they believe they are being sent to work on a new world order. Vault tec is really trying to make the best leader combining the strengths of all of them through psych testing before killing them all and transferring their personalities into a holotape that would be sent to the Enclave for upload as a new perfect leader. But then they figure it out and end up trying to eliminate each other to ensure they become the next leader. you can find all but one leader's bodies in the vault deceased. Later you either find that leader : as a ghoul, in a holotape as an AI, or as a synth (and you find out you are the synth)

[@willmoore6166]

I miss mitten squad, your videos always remind me of his. These two got me into fallout

[@notreallydaedalus]

Been feeling nostalgic for mittensquad lately... I'm doing a playthrough of FO4 named Paul in his honor.

[@petrogradadministration2310]

Nate, there’s actually another mentioning of bag man. It’s in the fallout lonesome road DLC mentioned in the hope silo middle codes.

[@gerbenvanegmond4007]

I love your FO lore Nate, please never stop!

[@valandres]

My theory: Zeus was the current president. Bagman was either a former president or perhaps the Vice President. The way that the guy on the tower, when questioned, immediately defended his patriotism implies that he wasn't in fact a patriot, and was either a chinese agent or some insurgent placed to take out Zeus so that Bagman could take over. The black suitcase was probably the football and upon Zeus' death, control of the nukes fell to Bagman. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that the Enclave was already preparing for life after the war, and felt that the current president was no longer needed after his usefulness expired (using government funds to lay the groundwork of the organization).

[@zeroknight1311]

Hey Nate, I had realized something quite interesting about Fallout 76's Mothman. Namely why the variants of the Mothman exists and how both the Visitor Corpse and the Interloper are connected. Prior to The Wild Wastelanders update, you can find more than one of the Wise variant of the Mothman. However, when the update went live, there is now only one of them. But what's more interesting is that the update is also what the deceased creature which we know as the Visitor was also added. Implying that the Wise Mothmen are connected to the Visitor prior to its death. Maybe the wisdom which they had were given to them by the Visitor. And with how the Mothman Cult based in the Lucky Hole Mine is hositle towards those who follows the Wise Mothman... It's possible that the Interloper is controlling the Red Eye Mothmen. This is due to how there are four colors which the eyes of the Mothmen can have. Each of which repersents something different. Orange for the Hatchlings, Green is obviously Radiation, Purple for the Wise Mothman whose aligned with the late Visitor, and Red is most definately the Interloper's minions. So this just begs the question about why the Interloper is against the Visitor. Since that should be what needs to be asked

[@shadowz3414]

Hey nate i leave for the fire academy and i am pretty nervous and seeing the video made that feeling gone away and just involved in the video and thank you for the peace. And love watching the skyrim lore and elder scroll videos keep up the great work.

[@35Cyt]

Nate for President of the Wasteland!

[@SunnyDeLite]

Also presidents can remain in power during times of war. We do not know if this also would have meant it could have also been a third term.

[@DangerDurians]

I’m gearing up to running a ttrpg in the fallout world, Haven’t played much of the games (have watched other people play more than anything), so I’m re bingeing all your vids again to get ready

[@danielsmith7164]

Love your content. Very thorough, and love your on screen content. If you haven’t you should taking your videos and make them into podcast episodes cause I often find myself just listening and not watching. Maybe you already have and I didn’t know.

[@lordfrogIII]

My theory: the V pres (vice president) is bagman, the one who was really pulling the strings. Harold Osborne was hired to kill the pres moments, so a true transfer of power could occur. The vp became the potus and had access to the nukes. Mr bagman killed the pres in order to begin the apocalypse. I dont know where he was when the bombs dropped, wouldnt be surprised if Bethesda kept him in a secret secret bunker in order to create an Enclave 2.0 as the previous one is destroyed in fallout 2. An organisation that controls from the shadows the organisations that control from the shadows (the Institute, Enclave, probably has plants in the BoS, NCR). This organisation likely is made up of Bagman, the aligned old government, selected Robco, Vaulttec, etc representatives and still has direct access to the vaults. In Fallout 4, this Enclave 2.0 could have released the sole survivor due to the institute stepping out of line or having fulfilled their usefulness, as it is likely that whatever ending is cannon, the institute will be destroyed.

[@mommiesaurus]

An hour of Nate. Perfection. My husband may be right. Your videos are my dirty secret.

[@pracitus]

Outstanding work man, this is surely for a Enclave quest/expansion/expedition/raid in the future

[@user-fn7rm9ix2s]

Never played a single Fallout game and I watched this till the end. Well made video, thanks for sharing!

[@serenitysfirefly]

45:34 Harry Osborn? That's gotta be a Spider-Man reference. 😂

[@garrethb6261]

I honestly think it's a reference to Lee Harvey Oswald, the guy who killed JFK.

[@TheSoulDivided]

That was my first thought too, but I'm not sure what exactly it would be referencing, other than the two having the same name

[@Nora_I_am_nice]

An hour of Nate. Perfection. My husband may be right. Your videos are my dirty secret

[@CuriousMothling]

Hey nate. I just wanted to say I love your long form content. I was a fan before you changed and your long form content has helped me start cleaning through my depression den. Still got a lot to do. But I'll stick to it. Just because I enjoy digging through the wastes of fallout doesn't mean I need to at home ❤😅❤

[@geezeethompson6357]

as always love to see your uploads and excited to see what you come up with when the new update comes out. thanks for the research on our behalf! WTH ARE THE CRYTOZOIDS DOING IN THE BUNKER?!?

[@hittinitsidways]

Spoiler alert, it’s Joe Biden

[@user-uy6hi7qm8n]

How did you find out

[@dutchvanderlinde5004]

He lives forever 😂

[@davidoneill7554]

Why you lobbin nukes? C-c’mon man!

[@tyler5914]

Bug off. Keep your grossly ignorant political ideology out this comment section. I am here to escape that stuff. You are what we call a party killer.

[@tyler5914]

@hittinitsidways is 💩

[@SebasTian58323]

Oh man, this is a great surprise. Here's hoping we get a video covering the theory that the sole survivor is a synth at some point!

[@YuhNinja]

Devs already says it's not true

[@SebasTian58323]

​@@YuhNinjawhere? I haven't been able to find anything official on it, only fan theories discussing it. And even if the devs did say that, I'd still want a video discussing the theory from him, just for the fun of the theory itself

[@brdg00d1ng]

Synths were made from the sole survivors DNA though. Father couldn’t have created the synths without having a biological father. Even if the player was a synth, they would be modeled after a real prewar human who once lived and wouldn’t really change anything

[@aDryBonesProduction]

Why would the Sole Survivor be called the back up for Shaun’s role (Institute uses the not irradiated DNA to make 3rd gen synths), if the Sole Survivor was not only a synth but a 3rd gen that relies on Shaun’s DNA? Why doesn’t any institute records or personnel say, oh hey, your that synth we put in the crypod and we made in Father’s (Shaun’s) father’s appearance? Conversely why does everyone act like they are meeting you for the first time and treated the Sole Survivor like a human and not a machine at the Institute the Sole Survivor was a synth? Why does Shaun tell you that he unfroze the Sole Survivor and wanted to see how the Sole Survivor did in the wasteland and if they can find him, if the sole survivor was a synth that is made from his DNA and made in the institute?

[@HighCharityYT]

It has been repeatedly confirmed the PC is not a synth in the game's cannon. You can headcannon to be whatever you'd like.

[@ninjaGrim1]

great work Nate!

[@shadowstriker42]

Dunwich, Vault tec , Robco, the Occult, the buried city, the long forgotten civilisation, Atom and the blind followers of the moth cult and most importanly.... the Whately family are all connected! The Great War was ALLWAYS going to happen and may have played a key role in awakening that dark force. Would love to see a vid to tie everything together once more info comes to light! Great job dude❤❤🤌🤌