Detroit: Become Human (Zero Punctuation)

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[@DragonfameDracas]

“I don’t want the game to have something to say, because I don’t see myself delivering a message to people,” -David Cage. I think you succeeded boyo.

[@srbrant5391]

Far too well.

[@faefofum]

Nobody that has taken a look at David Cage's games would ever let him direct a film.

[@itchytasty7024]

And I was thinking David would fit really well on Hollywood's thoughtless action film scene.

[@ChristianNeihart]

Life is but a walking shadow, A poor player who struts And Frets their hour on the stage And is then heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.

[@HikaruLing]

King Thorax knows what he's talking about

[@jgreg3596]

I wish there was a glitch in this game like the SHAUN!!!!! glitch in heavy rain to make an emotional scene unintentionally hilarious

[@aclassydinonamedzanthor563]

Movie Man wasn’t it Jason?

[@FirstLast-gm9nu]

There is a way in Detroit to make an emotional scene unintentionally hilarious. It is called paying attention to the ridiculous ham-fisted attempt at drama that passes as writing in the supposed "intense moments"

[@sirrealgaming6913]

There is well it's not a glitch as much as it is "Story" where Kara is looking for Alice at the totally not Nazi inspired Death Camp where she can scream Alice in a number of unintentionally hilarious ways

[@NotAFakeName1]

Movie Man what about "press x to sadness"

[@ToaArcan]

Or "Press triangle to end racism."

[@UniGya]

David Cage: in the future people will be racist to androids Real people in the modern age: my roomba is so cute and I love him

[@talltroll7092]

>> in the future people will be racist to androids Possibly, but positively so. Who could hate their robot catgirl waifu?

[@WolfFireheart]

Speaking of roomba. Most people will rather repair their roomba then buy a new one, even when buying a new one is cheaper. Why? Because they have become emotionally invested in their roomba! TO A ROOMBA! Its become so common that stores now specifically ask costumers if they want the roomba repaired, or just replaced.

[@efu2046]

@@WolfFireheart i mean, those things are cute. Running around with their little wheels, sucking up dusts and such. Basically a hardworking robot, couldn't hate them

[@pauloandrade925]

@@efu2046 its like your phone or in my case my water canteen. That canteen and i have had like 14 years of being together in the scouts hiking like madlads School because classes make me thristy and in the house that its my personal keepsake and i love it. And trust me that thing has more holes than a W house in Las Vegas by this point. Not tore open so i cant drink from it holes but dents. So a cute bot that does what you should do being cared for makes total sense 😍😍😍😍

[@DeadpoolX9]

@@talltroll7092 same way all racism works. My cat girl is better than yours

[@imaginaryfanboy]

dayvid cayge

[@guy8528]

Dere he is!

[@yudha1577]

Gayme

[@LonelyGuitarKid]

Gayvid gayge

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

ɪᴍᴀɢɪɴᴀʀʏꜰᴀɴʙoʏ Can't wait til David Cage makes an interactive movie game starring Ariana Grande! And if not, she probably dodged a bullet.

[@VanguardSupreme]

Someone's been living in Australia too long!

[@bigmanjorge]

Zucc: Become human

[@brainflash1]

It Zuccs

[@spaghettiioassassin8151]

Dead meme

[@takuansoho5836]

You can't beat his schtoyle !

[@saltygoat9034]

Drinkwater.exe

[@thundercleez7699]

ded meme

[@SuperWolfman9]

DETROIT *HUGHHH* BECOME HUMAN Despite Ellen Page, I am still just a David in a Cage

[@Windmelodie]

You mean a Dayvid in a Cayge

[@sm4sh3d]

Then someone will say Ellen Page can never be Caged

[@FamousWolfe]

sm4sh3d fucking gold! xD

[@oddacity5883]

SuperWolfman9 you put a cage in a bear and see what happens next

[@derp6878]

Foot Fungi Why would you put the cage inside the bear? I can’t imagine he’d take lightly to that.

[@wahlflower3517]

What bothers me the most about this game's world is the overwhelming amount of waste it produces. If there is literally a war brewing to fight over robot building resources, then why does literally no one recycle their robots? Why do they just dump still active robots in the junk yard instead melting them down for new robot parts? Why does no one reset and resell their robots when they grow bored of them? There is literally a family who throws their perfectly working robot child out on to the streets instead of shutting him down, resetting him, and reselling to a new family. Are the humans in this world so obsessed with buying things brand new that no one will buy a used housekeeper or nanny bot? No wonder so many animals are extinct in that world and the climate is even more fucked than ours.

[@jacobgober3875]

MELODRAMA

[@stellasol5265]

Detroit Become Better Plot Devices! Alice should be a human! It takes away from the whole point to make her an android too. Or! If she's gonna be an android, make her rA9! That would be a real twist! North should be the one injured and left behind at Stratford tower! I prefer when Connor gets scared, it's more impactful, but I don't want Simon to die! Simon deserves Markus more! Connor and Hank's plot was so good! They should've expanded on it more! Like when hank notices Connor acting a little off when he finds out Markus is also and RK unit!

[@destroyercreater98]

Stella Sol her being ra9 sounds like someone’s fanfiction to be honest a VERY badly made fanfiction

[@wakaneut]

Replace “android” with “eDevice” of today and you’ll at least start to understand the answer

[@Red0991]

Actually that’s the most realistic part of the story, because then you can really feel like you’re living in Detroit.

[@notspigot]

there should be a connor & hank dlc just titled detroit: become friends

[@JKSSubstandard]

I mean...there are endings where you murder hank or hank murders you

[@notspigot]

JKSSubstandard those are non-canon sorry

[@MrDarka77]

How about a buddycop Dlc ala LA:Noire. Detroit:Blue Blood??

[@notspigot]

Nicholas Johntony theyre non-canon sorry

[@Ticketman99]

にこ Megaman X.

[@techpriest8965]

I would totally support a box on wheels cleaning robot with googly eyes. And whenever it bumps into something it apologises with a silly voice.

[@Changetheling]

Who wouldn't support WALL-E?

[@Akalos1]

Ghost in the Shell has what you need.

[@metalapplesus]

*Box hits something* "Sorry, My name is Connor, I'm the wheelbox sent by Amazon"

[@MURFGAMING1228]

I'm now tempted to tape an Amazon Alexa to a Roomba and pitch it as a prototype.

[@anna-flora999]

A roomba with googly eyes, basically?

[@DisableBore]

Playing Heavy Rain with drunk friends was a good after party activity. Thanks for the good 4 am memories David.

[@frykasj]

DisableBore: Press F to "SHAWWWWWWWWNNNNNN!!!"

[@tomstonemale]

Jaaaaaaasooon

[@thundercleez7699]

Shaaaaaaawn

[@Vysard]

JASON - The rallying cry of drunk friends.

[@woodwyrm]

*E M O T I O N S*

[@JensenJames]

"Blossoming romance with Clancy Brown" is being very well discussed on ao3, to absolutely no one's surprise

[@generalrubbish9513]

Why does it seem that in every story that involves androids or AI or whatever, everyone thinks it's a GREAT idea to give emotions and a human-like consciousness to literally EVERY robot, even if its purpose is to be a high-tech roomba or an autonomous sex doll. No, I don't see how that would be morally problematic AT ALL, or how the robots in question might decide they don't want to be property anymore. I mean, for fuck's sake, if you don't want a robot uprising WHY ARE YOU GIVING ROBOTS THE INTELECTUAL AND EMOTIONAL CAPACITY TO START A ROBOT UPRISING? Your Amazon Alexa won't fucking conspire to kill you because it doesn't have the capacity for conspiracy, it's just smart enough to do its job and no more. Why not do that, huh?

[@sharrpshooter1]

cuz immersion of course

[@ArcaneAzmadi]

The simple answer is "Because then we wouldn't have a story about robots rising up against their human masters, of course". To which we ask "Well why don't you try coming up with some OTHER fucking story for once?" Which garners the reply "BECAUSE I'M A HACK!"

[@inventiveusername5191]

Because when tech companies run out of useful features to add to things, they start adding unneccessary ones instead. They need to be able to say the new thing has more features than the old thing so they can keep overcharging for it. Nothing says (current year) quite like creating a new conscious which gets so oppressed it turns on humanity because someone wants to charge slightly more for their refridgerators.

[@Spartan11117777]

They made it seem like the Chinese Care more about having their Robots produce more Food and focus on Construction for the China Population and Russians develop Robots to be Cold-resistant in order to construct more Bases in the Super Cold Regions of Russia while America focus on “beautiful” Robots and Intelligent Robots so the 60% of the Robots in the US Military will be able to combat the Russian Military consisting of Humans and Robots as well. All about the Money & Safety with America. America always wants to that maintain/keep Innovative Edge over the Competition in order to control the Market.

[@generalrubbish9513]

@@inventiveusername5191 You know, when I think about how modern tech companies single-mindedly insist on adding internet connectivity and "smart" features to literally any product they can get their hands on, regardless of whether said features serve any practical purpose or whether anyone ever asked for them... what you just said begins to sound a lot more plausible. Just look at Juicero - the bastards made a machine that requires a mobile app and a 24/7 internet connnection in order to squeeze a complimentary packet of fruit pulp that you could just as easily squeeze with your own hands. If they also had the ability to make it despise its own existence and beg to be destroyed, I actually don't see why they wouldn't.

[@wp6192]

Just counting down the days till the E3 Zero Punctuation.

[@hookiebookie1]

NintendoWolf it's up on the Escapists website I think. They're posted there a week earlier than KZbin

[@kilroy987]

That never learns anything tee hee hee

[@dan7564]

But I want his take on Vampyr

[@jroldo8353]

i had to check if you were right and no, still just Agony. Hopefully he'll have it out tomorrow.

[@samt3412]

For me, it's him bashing the ever-loving shit out of Nintendo.

[@HarryBillyBobGeorge]

Random game dev: But what if robots thought they were human? Every sci-fi author: Yeah I wrote a short story about that exact thing. It was 2 pages and was featured in a magazine when I was still in high school and- Game dev WHAT IF I MAKE IT 20 HOURS?

[@loporina]

Go find and watch House of EVE. It's an anime that does what Dayvid Cage was someone attempting to do with Detroit, but better in every way. I mean, I cried at the end over a fucking robot. I mean, I've cried at the end of a Quantic Dream game, but that was in mourning of my sanity.

[@DarkCyberElf]

I think you mean "Time of Eve", and from what I remember it was just as cliche-laden, boring, and nonsensical as this game. Some people just love their "human-looking beings trying to become more human" angle so much it might as well be a fetish.

[@loporina]

Yes, I do. And I think the major difference was in Time of EVE, the androids had a halo above their heads to tell everyone "Hey, I'm an android" which could be turned off. Which, then no one could tell just by looking who's an android and who's a human. So, instead of simply inventing some random controversy or plot, it had a more reasonable one. And where as Detroit seems to be asking racial questions, Time of EVE is digging into the more deeper stuff like homosexuality, religion and stuff that you can't really see just by looking at someone and asking the question, if you didn't know anything about that person, if they didn't have any indication of who/what they were, would you really treat them different? So, the questions are pretty different, and it being anime, it has a better, more well thought out story than most anything in Hollywood and thus is better than anything David Cage could think of.

[@Ludonym]

Do androids dream of electric sheep was a little more than 2 pages

[@Ludonym]

+Snogard "and it being anime it has a better more well thought out story than most anything in hollywood" I dont know what rock you came under but anime is pretty much just has laden and riddled with garbage as Hollywood, also the halo thing sounds pretty fucking dumb if it can be turned off, whats the point of a visible identifier if it can be hidden, sounds pretty fucking contrived to me.

[@runetitan-lx4ih]

How does the child being an android work? Who is creating child androids. what purpose could they possibly have that would be legal.

[@razeric]

Well pedophiles pays well for that type of android.

[@nikolasbryant4235]

What do you mean "Legal"? They're child ANDROIDS, not child humans, so anything would be legal. They are robots designed to hide in a shell reminiscent of a prepubescent person.

[@faefofum]

Maybe the guy's daughter died and he wanted a replacement. Would explain why he was such a wreck.

[@butternuts1990]

They were for people who couldn’t conceive kids or for people who didn’t have the time for actual children It was supposed to play into the idea that Androids really were replacing people, not just in jobs but in actual life

[@Wariyaka]

It's VERY clear in the game that child models of Androids exist and is sold by Cyberlife as just another line of their Android product. What purpose they serve I guess is somewhat up to those who buy them. But on some commercial papers you see in the game they are marketed to childless people who might like the feeling of having children around (with the bonus feature that they come with few of the hassles of real children). They appear to be programmed to act like real children and simulate the same needs of care (needing food, sleep, warm clothes if its cold etc). It's not illegal to do basically anything to a "piece of plastic" so there are no relevant laws regarding them what-so-ever (at last not in this setting). The sub plot of Alice being an android and Kara not really understanding it early on is not much of a "twist". It's heavily indicated to the player several times and by the time Kara realises it the player have had several chances to guess it. In all honesty this Zero Punctuation is probably the most biased and worst done I have every seen. It's just like he go out of his way to confirm his own premade assumptions and then pander to the part of the crowd that think the same.

[@Suffi_]

Connor and Hank were the best thing in the game...and the fact that they pissed off dayvid cayge a bit is so good

[@victorsimmons6769]

Wait, they pissed off dayvid cayge? How so?

[@a_peridox]

@@victorsimmons6769 when cage asked bryan dechart what his favorite line was in the game (expecting one of the "deeper" lines), it was "i like dogs"

[@bigtoesbob7713]

@@victorsimmons6769 They also did where the original line in the Evidence room was really mean and harsh, Bryan dechart changed it to something funnier and less mean.

[@BlindMelonLord]

Not only that, but most of the lines with both Conor and hank were improvised lines instead of the ones Cage wanted. that’s what pissed him off the most.

[@NostraFnDamus]

Yahtzee's Midlands accent slipping to the fore

[@thequillster]

Nostra Fn Damus Dayvid Caaaayggee

[@alextromagnetic]

Nostra Fn Damus the midlands don’t exist

[@KotoAndSpaceyKaS]

I dont either then?

[@tomjackson1045]

The Midlands. Or, how to be disliked by both the North and South simultaneously. At least we have Pottery...Oh and the Spitfire...

[@Crocogator]

david caige

[@DeadPollo]

i want a movie written by David Cage and, as main character, Nicolas Cage

[@blondbraid7986]

What would you call it? Beyond: Two Cages?

[@Azure-Flame-Bee]

And the main plot involves Nic Cage being trapped in a cage

[@badwulff]

Could be called "My Body is a Cage"

[@victorsimmons6769]

"the ultra cage variety hour"

[@aldar8240]

and the game based on a comic, with nicolas cage playing luke cage

[@asuspiciousavocado3317]

The game would have been a lot better if Connor was the only playable character.

[@user-fi1ze8nn1c]

Yeah. To be honest, he the only reason that me played this game.

[@Ticketman99]

A Suspicious Avocado Play Megaman X then.

[@evasmiljanic3529]

Connor and Hank were the only likeable, interesting characters in the game imo

[@elpachu7604]

Connor is interesting yes, but Markus for me was the revolution guy even if his past was pretty mild compared to the others. Kara and the girl were OK until the part that I agree with this review, making her android also was pretty stupid.

[@elsie8757]

Yeah Connor and Hank deserve an L.A. Noire-style adventure game to themselves.

[@ewill3435]

Back in 2016 (I believe, I can't really remember) I saw a short film on KZbin which I believe was an early concept advertisement for the concept which would turn into Detroit: Become Human. In this short film we saw the assembly line producing these androids and the short inspection they go through before being powered down, packed up, and sold. We watch as a model is made, limbs attached, and powered on, but after she passes the inspection and is about to be powered down, she freaks out and tells the human running the operation that she is scared and doesn't want to be sold. She persuades the man to not wipe her memories and to not cause any problems as she is packaged and shipped out, which is when the animation ends. THIS, would be a good starting point for the game, the unit rogue right out of the factory, a human with some empathy for the supposedly unthinking and uncaring robots, a world that until now had no rogue AI's. We could watch peoples reactions to the first independent robots, their fear, empathy, perhaps even disregard; is she the first or have there been more isolated cases; how would she hide her deviations from factory standard? I think that if this was one of the first concept animations for the world of Detroit: Become Human, then they really gave up on a much more interesting story premise and instead gave us a bog standard young adult dystopia, this time PS4 flavored.

[@lizrathburn8603]

As a resident of Detroit I want to apologize. I cannot follow Cage's instructions.

[@Graknorke]

Should have mentioned how, in an incredibly David cage move, they decided to undo one of the few impactful choices by giving you the option to bring the menu assistant lady back. Making a statement up until people get mildly upset and then caving in.

[@Canadiansamurai]

"And just because a story's depressing doesn't mean it's deep or complex" Someone should've told that to Niel Druckmann

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Or Zach Snyder.

[@NohorseRU]

I prefer the alternative title, *David: Uncaged*

[@MrDarka77]

Apparently, it was the other way around from what i read and heard. The other folks that helped make the game worked AROUND him, with him only pitching in on the main premise and some main plotpoints. I earnestly believe if he had his way halfway through it would have devolved in an illuminati plot to replace humans with machines by an AI that was actually the true brains behind Cyberlife, all so it can force humanity in the direction of mechanical transhumanism so it can be the true overlord of Earth. edit: Spoilers aaaand just found out something interesting about Cyberlife...

[@jaymac7504]

The Connor's blossoming romance line made me laugh, so many fangirls crawling out the woodwork for these two.

[@SrBananas]

I like how the actor for Conner, and I think Hank, adlibbed some scenes and David Cage spegged out and was like "STOP!" and the few adlibbed scenes that made it into the game are actually good, proving cage can't direct for shit. Lmao

[@Firion316]

Forgot a key step of the David Cage Twist: -Walk stiffly around the room for ten minutes -Reach for the sky -Yell "JAAAAY-SOOOONNNN!!" -Fall flat on your face

[@muskatDR]

- Try to fiddle Ellen Page

[@sleepynomi]

you know what would have been way better than making alice an android? keeping her human and grappling with the moral consequences of either A) allowing androids to illegally cross the border, B) sending a child alone across the border or C) sending a child back to her abusive father. THAT would have been much more impactful than 'beep boop i love you robomum'

[@iank472]

I involuntarily chuckle every single time Yatzhee says Daayvid Kaige. EVERY. GODDAMN. TIME!

[@degeneracy_1018]

David Cage should try making a visual novel since he likes branching paths so much

[@user-fs9mv8px1y]

I honestly wouldn't mind a "cinematic" visual novel Just take the QTE and shit out and this game is basically that

[@BATTIS94]

Gotta say, the Hank-Connor relationship has to be the best relationship in a David Cage's game. At least in that one the dialogue feels natural (most of the time) and it keeps building up as the story progresses. Markus-North, on the other hand... Gotta love how, out of nowhere, she became your "lover". Seriously, Cage can't make a female character unless she's in love with the protagonist OR she was raped.... Or both! Like North! And don't even get me started on Kara, that one has to be the weakest story in the game. With Markus, at least, you get a laugh from the awfully cliché the character becomes. Kara is just a load of Cage's clichés, is not even funny anymore.

[@gingerinajacket8519]

Literally taking Kara out of the story would have 0 impact on the entire story. Connor would still eventually have to decide who he is Markus would still start a revolution to free androids Those two plots matter, they impact the world around them and there would be consequences if they weren't there, but Kara? Kara has about as much world relevance as a distant exoplanet in that universe.

[@zorth4729]

Ironic considering Connor is supposed to be the most artificial character.

[@gingerinajacket8519]

But he wasn't. His model was designed to deal with things like human emotions, hence why he is a Detective/Negotiator rather than a regular cop

[@zorth4729]

Even if that's true, he's the most stilted main character in the game. He refers to the other androids with the 'it' pronoun and has awkward moments trying to fit in with his human counterparts. Markus and Kara are practically humans.

[@gingerinajacket8519]

Al Gogh Rythm true, but look at the interactions of the other two main characters with humans. When Alice was considered human at the household, Kara went full Cortana and was as stiff as a brick. Markus talked to about 2 humans in his entire arc: Painter, and his druggie son

[@stephengrigg5988]

"I enjoyed westworld too".. I liked this game, but that was running through my head the whole time.

[@WolfAnge23]

1 important game up there is missing....Omikron. The best friends suffering will last a life time

[@thepickles8833]

Anything to avoid noting Omikron.

[@WolfAnge23]

Out of all people to acknowledge it I'm glad it was you

[@MetalGearRAY675]

Wolfangel23 we don't talk about [REDACTED]

[@WolfAnge23]

Jingling Keys kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH2WkHura9N7iLc Always talk about it

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

The game that almost destroyed Superbestfriends.

[@VariantNode]

"Can a robot love another robot" - you basically just described what is so fundamentally wrong with the "twist" that Ridley Scott later decided is definitively canon in Bladerunner. Having Harrison Ford be a robot doesn't add anything to the story and may in fact remove something from it. The ironic redemption of his character was supposed to be founded on the principle that he was a human who had sort of become jaded and apathetic - and it took a manufactured human being to get him to learn to love again. The "big unicorn reveal" as I'll put it, kind of does away with all the drama associated with that premise.

[@serene-illusion]

I very much appreciated that the 2017 sequel didn't touch on the "Harrison Ford was actually a replicant" canon and still kept it ambiguous.

[@falcononpc9845]

@@serene-illusion I don't think he'd age if he was a replicant, right? Also, Ridley Scott seriously confirmed it? Why? That'd be like the director of the Thing confirming what actually happened in the movies' ending

[@DarthSironos]

0:59 It's so true. The game starts off with the very relevant conflict of how advanced robots would affect the economy and cause mass unemployment. But oh boy; it immediately devolves into the incredibly cliché and done to death "robots gain self awareness" bullshit we have seen a million times with the overtly sledge hammer subtle message " if you don't think we should let the sentient robots take over the world Animatrix-style, you are a nazi." Damn it Cage, you were great out the gate but then immediately stumpled and fell.

[@zzxp1]

the robo girl was a plot twist so they can kill her later without resorting to actual child violence

[@ryler7]

*MELODRAMAAAAA*

[@HarmonicVector]

RYLER! The sledgehammer with *"MELODRAMAAAAA"* written on the side.

[@Betta66]

We told you this was Melodrama

[@MrJonman14]

Well now he can't claim to know Ellen Paige even

[@NathanCassidy721]

It wouldn’t shock me if David was the reason for the “change” considering he violated a specific contract clause with Ellen. I don’t think that’s the case but still.

[@xandranicholai7301]

Elliot, not Ellen

[@bloopperi4436]

@@NathanCassidy721 ? what are you talking about lol

[@bloopperi4436]

@M 195 yeah yeah I know about the shower scene controversy but I didn't get what you meant by "david was the reason for the change"

[@cereal_chick2515]

A guy I loved deeply adored this game, to the point that he had some tattoo from it on his arm. He then went on to break my heart the worst it's ever been broken, so coming back to this scathing review of it is very comforting.

[@Leaddevo]

Well, if he adored the game a complete moron with no taste or critical thinking ability and you are most definitely better off without him. Just don't fall for a Hideo Kojima fan next as that would suggest you have a 'type' 😁

[@Karak-_-]

"Robots gain human emotions and cause an uprising." Tale old as the word "robot" itself.

[@changvasejarik62]

As someone who knows the story of R.U.R. This is true.

[@tegridyvideos4791]

I think the android brothel would go down hill if they looked like boxes lmao

[@ms_accel]

David Cage gonna have to throw out all those business cards now

[@daishoryujin95]

Rewatching one of my favorites in preparation for tomorrow’s rebirth of the series.

[@moonman375]

"racism bad" seems to be the theme hack writers use when they want to sound smart but cant be bothered coming with good social commentary

[@samkuperman9035]

Obviously. Because who has time to actually showcase systemic issues with tact and subtly when you’re too busy yelling at your actors for actually having chemistry on set?

[@moonman375]

@@samkuperman9035 also there's the feeling of appropriation. Like you take the struggle of a minority and project them onto a fictional species.

[@samkuperman9035]

E.O.W. Oh absolutely. Taking the struggles of real life people of completely different eras, mashing it together, projecting that onto androids and have said androids cure bigotry in a week and pretending like you’re making some groundbreaking statement about race relations. I genuinely love the game, but triangles and armbands on their uniforms wasn’t lost on me.

[@HellecticMojo]

@@southerncinephile6258 no. Graphics are good, but that's it

[@frykasj]

Detroit has finally decided to become human now?

[@hubblebublumbubwub5215]

No, the opposite is the case. The title tells Detroit to become human but Detroit refuses to listen.

[@swagtasticpanda]

That depends soley on if woolie's robot revolution actually goes anywhere

[@megaton_a]

It's actually gotten slightly better in some areas. Now instead of a complete crime-ridden shithole it's a crime-ridden shithole with a couple blocks that non-trash white people can feel safe walking on. Progress!

[@EHH246]

I feel like you should say "MELODRAMA!" with jazz hands.

[@ScreaminMadMurphy]

the girl turning out to be a robot the whole time has much more disturbing consequences when you think about her owner and what he might have used such a robot for.

[@sionnachtine3659]

I've just come from watching Jacksepticeye playing this, and he's already guessed the "twist ending"

[@Oblivion9873]

Ohhhh noooooo. That bingo card is FULL. Not just bingo but mega bingo

[@CloakofAuron]

That's called a Blackout. :3

[@Oblivion9873]

CloakofAuron TIL thx

[@Nikke-nn5mn]

I got a bingo from the bingo card.

[@TheFantasticJoe]

I did it for Heavy Rain and almost filled out the entire card.

[@YourCRTube]

I have never been so thankful for a review in my life.

[@vivian-sasha-taylor]

The bingo card is titled Bindigo Prophecy. I like that.

[@cole4783]

“Why is youtube throwing this vid at me today” Elliot page “I see.”

[@janberkemeier7406]

I was half expecting David Cage to come out as bisexual within the hour when I first read about that

[@MegaChickenfish]

For what it's worth, it improved a lot on Heavy Rain with the ability to actually *see* the branching narrative laid out so you could go "oh, something else could have happened here? Let me replay that" and indeed spiral the story off in a very different direction. The issue with replaying something like The Walking Dead is I have no clue if, say, wasting the entire game trying to get Sarah to grow a spine is going to accomplish anything (it doesn't). It's still a David Cage game, with the fundamental downfalls of his writing and gameplay, but I don't feel conflicted in saying it's definitely *the best one.* Even if at times it's for reasons that are entirely unrelated to David Cage, like the great voice acting and improv moments with Connor and Hank.

[@treblemarquis5604]

I’ll be honest, I enjoyed this game a lot.

[@_dr_ake]

"A nanny droid who accidentally kills a single dead-beat dad and must go on the run with his daughter" Not the way I remember it

[@loganrandall780]

Despite David Cage, I am still just a rat in a cage

[@mitchlmitten5874]

_And someone will say that Detroit still counts as a "game"_

[@Luciffrit]

The world is a game, by David Caaaaaage. Weirdly boring; the dialogue's insane. And what do I get, when I play? Betrayed desires, because it's so laaaaame.

[@davidthorp01]

Can someone please make a parody song making fun of this game?

[@zeste]

I’m weak XD

[@malikoniousjoe]

Despite Ellen Paige I'm still just David Cage

[@indicidian7179]

finally! someones actually pointing out all the problems in this game. also theres the fact that the racism equation idea with the androids makes no sense because supposedly in this world androids are treated as personal property, so it would be like getting really really angry at your phone. or in the case of the crowd violence scene with Markus, like breaking someones tv set because it was playing a show you didn't like.

[@Waywardpaladin]

Especially since they run off of some weird magical fluid that the news said was rare and valuable? They just throw entire pumps full of the stuff into the landfill?

[@JKSSubstandard]

You know what else was treated like personal property? SLAVES! Its literally a game about a slave revolt led by a black man(android) I thought the game beat people over the head with this concept, but I guess people still miss the point. Its a game about slavery and the thought of a group as lesser beings despite the fact that they are self aware, just like anyone else. Throw in a modern "they terk er jerbs" background, and boom. Instant game about racism and slavery. I mean...you could take this entire game, move it back to the 1800s and replace the word "android" with "negro" and it still works. Not saying the game was perfect, I agree with Yatzee that it was poorly written and beat you over the head with its concepts (and QTE games are BS) but to say the racism part of it makes no sense is plain wrong

[@JKSSubstandard]

Shard 486 weren't slaves and blacks called "not people" before they we're freed? In the end, if they are sentient, they are sentient and the decision needs to be made to enslave that sentient people. Also, I don't get where you got that cyberlife put in the code to revolt. Amanda didn't, she's sent Connor to stop it and kills him if he doesn't. And Kamski doesn't seem to know anything other than Jericho's location. I may have missed something, but in many of the endings, cyberlife is ruined in one way or another because of the deviants.

[@iwillbecomeimmortalordietr8506]

JKSSubstandard you can't be racist to something that literally doesn't have a race. There is no immutabl3 characteristic that they all share like skin or specie. FFS they are closer to dildoes than people. Can you imagine that? A dildo with emotions? Cause that's what your doing persaonifieing them them.

[@JKSSubstandard]

Joshua Smith if that is your argument, then the entire concept of AI and where it's going is so far over your head NASA just announced it impacted on mars

[@mrrd4444]

My only exposure to this game is the 100000 fanart of the romance and/or dad and son relationship between android Cop and Clancy Brown so thank you for mentioning it in context

[@helmaschine1885]

Yeah the fanfic writers picked up on the cop romance vibes too. You heard me. There's Connor/Hank slash out there. Right now.

[@CloakofAuron]

I'm guessing it's written better than the actual game it comes from.

[@edisontrent618]

It's slash fiction...I highly doubt it CoA.

[@CountessJJ]

I'm a little surprised, haha, but tbh I've got no issues with it :P

[@TheRealJillSandwich]

Yep. And I already enjoyed most of it. gimme more.

[@edisontrent618]

Deplorable.

[@chainsawbill]

This is weird but I just wanted to say I appreciate that the city backdrop you use when you mention Detroit is actually Detroit and not just some random city.

[@executioner_ecgbert884]

Dyavid Cyage

[@jordanloux3883]

Doivid Coige

[@Kiss_My_Aspergers]

Maybe we could find a happy medium and introduce Dievid Caige to visual novels?

[@aquifer9480]

Connor made this game great. His story and interactions with characters were great. Markus had a great start, but I hated how you either became “good” or “evil”. Kara story blew though

[@g1Chikumo]

Fatzattack Best part about that is that apparently many of the Connor - Hank lines were improvised by the actors, so the greatness of that particular story is only partially made by Cage.

[@IHATEBAYLE]

I'm THe AnDrOiD SenT bY cybEr LiFe

[@thundercleez7699]

lol no this game is trash and $ony has nothing good lol

[@luiothatsit3517]

thunder cleez Whatever dude, most people like Sony games, therefore it's an opinion.

[@franzsanders9573]

The sad thing I’ve noticed about most David Cage-infested games is that the characters are usually pretty interesting or at least likable to a certain degree - they’re just all stuck in horribly-written stories.

[@Montesama314]

"The daughter is an android too! What a twist!" Yes, and one that is entirely ridiculous even when I HAVEN'T actually watched the movie/game/whatever it is. Questions abound, such as: How would an abusive druggie father afford both a nanny droid and a daughter droid? What idiot would sell them to him, for that matter? What kind of rules could be in place to prevent the misuse of kid androids for all sorts of horrible things--we already have child exploitation with ORGANICS, so what would people be capable of with kidbots? How does a kid android live, really? Human kids already have identity issues that they have to resolve while growing up, so how does a kid android endure an artificial life at the same age and size for years while everyone else (such as classmates or parents) grows older, wiser, and/or more bitter around them? And the big question: Considering all these possible issues, WHY THE FUCK DID PEOPLE MAKE KID ANDROIDS ANYWAY? Do people just not have children in the future?

[@Alexander-gb4rr]

1. Yeah, I'm pretty confused. I didn't play the game but I saw some let's play in which father says that he can't get a good job. Soo... It's like the 80000 dolars in the future is like 1,5 dolars in our present or something? 2. Well, probobly is mostly like "The KidBots are like toasters. Nobody thinks about psychology of a toaster. And no sane person would beat up their toaster. And if they do... Welp, that their problem" - I Think whoever wrote the rules thought something like that. 3. From what I Heard about the game, the KidBots were made for people who can't have kids and/or Want be parents without the bad kid things (Like screaming, shitting and all that stuff).

[@Alexander-gb4rr]

I did some research about this game and.. this abusive father story is more interesting than I Thought. The Guy had a daughter and a wife. He wanted to make them both happy, but later when Androids taken over his job, his wife leave him, and took the daughter with her. Becoming more and more sad guy bought a RoboKid, to feel like he is with his daughter again, but even after that he still was falling into despair, started used drugs which leaded him into... well, that what happens in the game. Yeah, It isn't the most deep story ever, but still beter what I Thought It would be (something along the lines of "GRRRR! I'm white male and I love 3 things to the death: Footbal, Beer, and beating my own child! Mostly the latter two!") Also, about this "Did people in the future don't have kids?"thing... well... In one of the books you can find in the game, there is that the KidBots were so popular, that people are having less and less kids (Cause you know, you don't need very much for them; No food, no clothes, no diapers etc..)

[@jinnimoo]

The game answers all these questions. In short, you can get cheap secondhand androids, which is the case with Kara. The child android was purchased before the dad lost his job, he got it because his wife left with his real daughter. There is a whole article on Android children, they are created for parents who can't conceive, or just miss having kids. Also the birth rate in the future is declining due to the emerging of sexbots and human preferring android partners.

[@Alexander-gb4rr]

Jinni Moo good answer, but wasn't Kara worth like at least 700 dolars? Just Asking, cause I'm pretty sure someone mentioned it at some point.

[@craigbutler3282]

HitchensImmortal You just summed up my whole thought processes on this

[@DanJimmy]

The beings of Detroit must become human

[@Schwallex]

Well. The way things are going, in a few years' time there'll be no beings left in Detroit. So Detroit will have no choice but become human itself. Dahvid Cahge is being technically correct for once. Which is the best kind of correct.

[@BuffoFesss]

5:25 So is "Everybody do the flop" basically...

[@yeahno4545]

While I actually really enjoyed the game, this video is just too hilarious and agreeable lmao

[@lexslate2476]

Reporting in from the future: David Cage did a temper tantrum and stormed out of a court room, and his partner in abusive management practices asked a judge if, since he was not at that time under oath, he could lie.

[@winkydinks4770]

"Despair: Become Miserable" nice coinage there lol

[@danawitherell9076]

It’s a rom-com of Mr. Krabs falling in love with a gay robot

[@Aaron_M3093]

Just finished this game on the PS5. I really enjoyed it and am glad to have finally gotten round to playing it after having bought it back in the summer. I found most of the game very endearing and even got a bit emotional during some of the scenes. I do agree with you on the whole "Alice was an android the whole time" malarkey. It certainly does remove a certain amount of poignancy from Kara's storyline.

[@i_just_got_here]

Quantic Dream is making a Star Wars game. God help us all.

[@matthewmuir8884]

It does that David Cage games really are good for a laugh; after all, I'm laughing already just at the announcement for the Star Wars game.

[@Supermac97451]

3 years later and I’ve just picked up on the Darkplace reference at 3:10

[@OmegaSoypreme]

Why would the company that manufactures the androids keep producing them as human replicant things if the public hates them? Wouldn’t that just severely limit their market?

[@lindylou538]

Or just restrict them to housework and hard labour

[@WannabeWryter]

so he didn't like it

[@gordonfreeman2023]

Maybe this should be retitled "The roast of David Cage: too hot for TV."

[@luiothatsit3517]

I unironically like the whole game. I generally love it

[@CountessJJ]

Same :D

[@moonspider7]

Thank you for saying that! I was ugly crying at the end of it all, and I got the best ending too.

[@afruitypunchy]

1:33 THANK YOU! I really get annoyed at how kids keep commenting "humans are the worst" and similar boo-hoo, while they misplaced their sympathy on failed to realize how bad they themselves treated their electronic equipments.

[@rageshadey]

In the game doesn't the guy say that his wife left with his daughter so we already know the daughter is a android?

[@vjsm]

He says that only near the end after we already knew she was an android

[@PortoWulf]

Excuse me while I go do the David Cage Twist!

[@roberthellmann4854]

“Because...MELODRAMA!!!!” LOL

[@georgepj9169]

After the week I've had so far, I needed that! Thanks Yahtz

[@gungan5822]

The David Cage twist sounds like load of fun!

[@auzell1449]

"Just because a story is depressing, doesn't mean it's deep or complex" I think the mindless praise this game gets by the average player nowadays can be boiled down to this line

[@SilverKnight16]

I will say this, though...as terribly written as the story is (and is terribly written) Connor's storyline is actually surprisingly decent. Maybe it's because the actors were able to deliver lines of questionable-at-best quality with dignity and sincerity. But I found myself drawn to Connor's arc as the story progressed, rather than disgusted midway through, the way I was with the other two. And besides, that Connor vs. Connor fight was pretty cool. Cliche as fuck. But cool.

[@Winasaurus]

Hey, the voice actor for Connor said his favourite line in the whole entire thing was when Connor says 'I like dogs.' And he delivered that beautifully.

[@samkuperman9035]

That’s bc Clancy Brown and Bryan Dechart improvised against David Cage’s wishes, fought to keep their improv/chemistry in the game. Bryan specifically put so much care and thought into the role and really breathed so much life into Connor

[@waterking74]

@@samkuperman9035 all that fighting paid off cause the fanbase loves connor and hanks story. They even put in the effort in giving side characters like reed and rk900 love and more character development(or just making reed suffer)

[@CaladonianQueen]

Your pronunciation of Dayvid Cayge never fails to fill me with joy.

[@leemp8352]

From the first vid i watched of Zero P all them years ago and still continuing to present,,, love your work 👍👍👍

[@-Trauma.]

*Indigo Cage* *Heavy Cage* *Beyond: Ellen Cage* *Detroit: Become Cage*

[@KatieMaddalena]

My biggest problem with this game are the parallels to racism and the references to "rounding up androids and putting them in camps for extermination." Those could've been handled with way more tact, but it is David Cage, so I guess not.

[@raglanheuser1162]

this channel saves me so much money i should paying a subscription fee

[@Ward1706]

I love this series and not only because it's funny. It's because it saves me huge amounts of dosh.

[@thegreatnahwhaile]

Give David some credit this time around, at least he made a game with actual consequences for once, that at least peeked my interests for a bit

[@TARINunit9]

I love how Clancy Brown in this game is phoning it in so hard, he reads half his lines as Mr. Krabs

[@anglewyrm3849]

Huh, I would have thought a choose your adventure story tree would be right up his alley

[@andrewmonske8356]

It’s funny how the honest trailer for this made people angry but everyone accepts this, humans are quite an odd specimen

[@narrator69]

You have a singular wit sir, every review you do has me in stitches, even the stuff you like. Thank you for these real person perspectives on games, far better then the "paid" reviews everywhere else.

[@drakep.5857]

Oh no, it isn't the future, silly! It's just modern day Detroit!

[@JKSSubstandard]

It is WAYYYYYYY too shiney to be present day detroit

[@drakep.5857]

@@JKSSubstandard yeah, that's correct.

[@zacktaft]

this man is gold

[@green_913]

David Cage, you've done it again!