New Airplanes - Update SEEK & DESTROY Dev Server - War Thunder

[@AndyWager]

So the UK Grippen gets AMRAAMS? But the Sweedes have to research, buy, and stock grind a 2nd Grippen to get AMRAAM?

[@solowingborders3239]

On the F-15C, those are conformal fuel tanks, they can't be jettisoned. It looks a bit weird on the F-15C though.

[@Wildkakahuette]

yep and i think it's useless to take theme if you gonna go with the low fuel/tank strat ^^

[@AlphaJulietBravo1]

Its nice that they added them though, the 15C can definitely take them

[@usesrnaiyme]

@@AlphaJulietBravo1 no it can not, its not a removable part of the aircraft, only variants of the strike eagle (the E) got it because its apart of the airframe, but what makes the strike eagle good, is the way more powerful engines which compensate for the changed airframe. the Charlie absolutely should not be getting CFTs. It never carried them, and is what makes the airframe of the strike eagle special. shame on gajin

[@Likeaworm]

@@usesrnaiymeyea I am baffled at this decision wtf

[@usesrnaiyme]

@@Likeaworm at least they should’ve made it a modification instead of a loadout thing to simulate the fact that it’s NOT removable in the slightest.

[@TBH322]

The new tanks aren't drop tanks, they are called conformal fuel tanks (CFT) because they are molded to the body of the plane to reduce drag and stay attached to the aircraft even when empty. The F-16 Block 72 has them as well.

[@dinosaure_jr4595]

I could see Eurofighter and Rafale coming this december

[@DrakenDXD]

oh hell yea man. they are gonna break the game

[@zSwax]

Honestly germany needs it. No cas. I did some research the new f4f could carry guided bombs and mavericks. + they think a su27 is equal to a f4f with only .3 br difference with 2 missiles more better ir missiles better flight moddel and cause its ussr probably better fox 3

[@dinosaure_jr4595]

@@DrakenDXD but honestly what is going to stop them from coming. The missiles are there the planes are there.

[@DrakenDXD]

@@dinosaure_jr4595 Partly bro. eurofighter and rafale for example both have the Meteor Radar Homing Missile, which is stronger than amraam and r77, and every other radar missile up to nowadays. The thing is gripen can carry the meteor too, but they added one without meteors, so i wonder why they dont just add the rafale and eurofighter with balanced loadouts.. they could add the Meteor when its fair for the other countrys too, you know? So i guess they dont add it for balancing reasons and stuff

[@DrakenDXD]

@@zSwax i think so too. they could just give them balanced missile armaments for now so they can add it already. the phantom with improved combat efficiency will be very strong on distances, but on close ranges its still a phantom after all, most other top tiers will be better in the other aspects. phantom still turns worse than most of the rest... but at least its an iconic fighter and overall still good.

[@copperthedergy]

Very nice to see the updated tornado make it in, glad they know it even exists, irl its the Tornado F.3 Capability Sustainment Programme

[@GWMsharpshot21]

I just want the FGR 4 added soon the tree needs it and should have it since stuff like the f15 and su 27 are in game the FGR 4 should of been added by now. Also FGR 4 is the British typhoon eurofighter

[@lukereyes6266]

​@@GWMsharpshot21the EFT is way too advanced for war thunder at the moment. Adding the EFT to war thunder is like having an f22 in the Korean war

[@GWMsharpshot21]

@@lukereyes6266 still all that British has now can't counter the other nations as is grippen isn't a answer either with it radar and skyflashes can only get a solid lock on at 63k ft where as the things it has to fight have passive radar and radars that can hard lock at 150k ft plus i mean i can solid lock at 150k ft in my tornado f3 with super temps but even then i can't fire till within 70k ft cause the super temps say it can travel 125k ft but they don't the go bout 85k ft and then explode. Only way i can counter us ussr stuff is to tree skim and radar slave my 9Ms to make them ignore the flares of the enemy and bring as many flares and chaff as possible

[@lukereyes6266]

@@GWMsharpshot21 the f.3 is getting amraams and the gripes is getting something aswell. The tornado is gonna be a faster f4f ice, a missile bus that hangs in the back, that's the way they can counter the other nations. Especially if you're smart about going cold

[@GWMsharpshot21]

@@lukereyes6266 well thing is its not the existing tornado its a whole new one honestly should of just gave the existing tornado 120s and grippen is getting something called R darters

[@pauld6967]

The conformal fuel tanks of the F-15 Eagle are meant for ferry flights. Secondarily, they could be used for very long range missions where dogfighting was considered likely. Thus, no need for them to be jettisonable.

[@oOkenzoOo]

Everybody's FOX 3 missiles : 80 km launch range. France : 50 km..... MICA EM by Gaijin : 50 km range, 70s guidance time and 4.74 kg of explosives. MICA EM in reality : 80 km range and 12 kg of explosives. Meanwhile in Russia, R77 : 80km range, 50g overload, 90s guidance time and 15.56 kg of explosives. The unjustified hard nerf to only France is becoming really visible Gaijin.....

[@JustJAYY334]

I feel like this video upload either wayy earlier than it was supposed to, or EXTREMELY later than it was supposed to

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

Love getting A model amraams when the B model came out the same year as the r77 (1994)

[@cinnamonoa]

the F4F ICE won't stay 12.7 with 9Ls I don't think, that's not a finished vehicle

[@jsjsagus]

It deserves 9M's but i will stay with the Mig-29G, just better as a figther and the R-27ER1 stills better than the aim120, the only diference is that you need constant radar lock but stills better

[@zeakthetinysoviet3702]

We get new vehicles, major bug fixes, new sub par maps (imo) and thats cool and all but is limited to only that for the most part when it comes to major updates. New games modes, And new objectives for air battles and ground battles, as well as naval would be nice. For example, Balance out naval so that battleships dont dominate as much and have a way to actually counter them without relying on BBs of our own. We have escort missions and objectives to destroy in enduring confrontation, so why not in AB/RB? Sure, battles dont last as long so make then on a smaller scale. Or perhaps in RB the objectives could change locations and be reset after X amount of time. I think in the past we had an "attack/defend" mode didnt we? Huge maps, multiple sets of objectives unlocked through capturing previous sets? That'd be some nice variety.

[@TwixSvK]

For me the only noteworthy things are the separate BRs, smaller teams for top tier and that you can shoot wheels off.

[@brithisharmytea5539]

fox 3's came before the aim 7p thats crazy

[@_kampfkartoffel2195]

rip german top tier💀

[@Raickten]

The only br it will be working is 12.0 everything above is braindead

[@ideadlift20kg83]

All top tier russian tanks gets modeled auto loaders that will disable reload until it is repaired.

[@_kampfkartoffel2195]

I ment Air

[@ideadlift20kg83]

@@_kampfkartoffel2195 My bad, yeah sorry :(

[@_kampfkartoffel2195]

@@ideadlift20kg83 No Problem i am grinding the US Air tree for that reason. And i am almost done.

[@corybrown2197]

What confuses me is the loadout choices on the vehicles. For instance just using 3 vehicles, you have the F-15C which can and should be able to carry 8 AIM-120’s on all of its pylons, but it’s restricted to 4 and 4 sidewinders. No reason to not take 4 since you can’t choose the 120’s instead. Then you have the SU-27SM which also should be able to carry 10 R-77’s, but of course we are clearly nerfing the planes so that they aren’t OP so the plane can only carry….6 R-77’s and 4 R-73’s OR 4, R77’s and SIX R-73’s. I know it’s not the best performing plane as far as it’s flying by that’s 2 extra missiles no matter what. Maybe if it was just R-73’s you could argue that’s balance, but it can carry 2 extra R-77’s which can make it REALLY dangerous. By the end of the match when you are out of missiles, this thing still has more options. Then there’s the F-4 ICE. Not only did they give it 9L’s which are effectively useless at top tier now, they only allow it to have 4 AMRAAMS. So compared to the F-15 that can carry 8 useful missiles. The SU-27 that can carry 10 useful missiles. The F-4 which has the worst flight performance, has 4 useful missiles. What the hell is this?! It should be able to carry 8 AMRAAMS. Or if nothing else just give it 9M’s. So I just don’t get it. They are clearly restricting vehicles. But doing it in a very odd way as they always have. Certain planes are nerfed for seemingly no reason.

[@SnoW-pk9zo]

The f4 ice is one I’ll skip for sure. Came a year or two too late

[@corybrown2197]

@@SnoW-pk9zo it would be fine if they let it carry its full compliment like I said. There’s no reason to restrict this vehicle to 4 AMRAAMs. Or to 9L’s for that matter

[@RedXlV]

I can understand why Gaijin wouldn't give the F-4F ICE the IRIS-T. That would be completely busted even on a platform as bad as a Phantom. But where is the AIM-9L(i), at least?

[@derbe8647]

​@@RedXlV i think due to the lack of the hmd and the lackluster airframe, it wouldnt be as busted as people think

[@j.yellow0190]

Its a phantom it wouldn't be busted at tol tier at all the mig 29, mig 23 su27 f14 f16 f15 and Griffen all are better airframes and most have HMD so givinv the f4f ICE aim9m atleast instead of L would make it atleast have a fighting chance in too teir

[@ILPANETTIERE89]

fuck the guys who says that he's first

[@whatdothlife4660]

The lot of em!

[@jaguareagle7026]

first

[@mikeyplayzwrld]

@@jaguareagle7026 pause

[@lafouche345]

Fair warning ……. the new active radar stuff will take a while to ‘bias up’.

[@Danny.Duns1]

The bias is charging up fr

[@Ben_Kimber]

Now that we have the Tornado F.3 Late, I am patiently waiting for the ASRAAMs.

[@SadisNic]

Just a reminder, the MSIP 2 upgrade happened in 1985, the SM upgrade for the Su27 happened in 2004. You want more proof of bias, here you go.

[@fboyg91]

germany is dragging an 75 year old air frame into 12.7 dude quit crying

[@SadisNic]

@@fboyg91 Guy I'm an Italy main, I want the Typhoon as much as you do, especially since they aren't giving the Italian F16 120s.

[@emanueldjordje]

Or you can think of it this way, US planes were so advanced in '85 that they need to add '04 russian planes to be competitive against them. I am predominantly USSR main and I see it this way and am jealous of what US will receive

[@SadisNic]

@@emanueldjordje See you can say that but in what world (besides reality) is the top Abrams equal to the T80BVM? The ADATS to the Pansir? The HSTVL (And the poor Otomatic for that matter) to the 2s38? The A10 to the Su25? Russia gets stacked constantly and this is just fuel to the fire. Sure both the Su27 and F15 are having their AMRAAMs reduced, but the Su27 is coming out with two more than the F15.

[@emanueldjordje]

@@SadisNic yeah but imo F15 has a flight model that is a world ahead of the SU 27

[@GWMsharpshot21]

British get 2 new things which is cool also the grippen got it's skyflashes removed and replaced with R darters i believe. It's not a FGR 4 aka typhoon but it will work for now idk why they are holding British back the tree has needed the FGR 4 for so long it's not even funny

[@mab2187]

Now just need the JF-17

[@noahhuls]

RB 75T is a swedish upgraded RB 75, so should be different than the AGM-65G

[@Devildoginvu]

There seems to be a lot of differences between the F 15 C and the Japanese F 15. The big thing I’ve noticed is the fuel tanks on the side of the jet intakes are missing on the Japanese model.

[@Captain_Coleslaw]

I love the conformal fuel tanks!

[@Anthony1102www]

Germany already suffer... Damn the bias

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

330m/s climb rate for the Israeli F-15 ! That's close to speed of sound !

[@sayorisione8868]

Every match is about to be 12 players

[@FishFlys]

F4F ICE would be fine at 12.7 if it had the historically accurate ALR-67 V2 RWR, AIM120B, and AIM9L(i)

[@humbuggaming2126]

Why does gripen not get its upgraded radar? It is installed on all gripen Cs. Hungarian gripens were sold after radar upgrades went into action so it should have longer range radar. It should have 160km range

[@thejimmith2320]

I’m so pissed the Japanese f15 doesn’t get any guided munitions…

[@meladongotmotion]

this seems like a very good update

[@xXx_Funni_xXx]

Copy paste update

[@maceval]

Just a little disappointed they didn't make one of the F-16's Dutch and the other Belgium, would've made more sense, as both countries have both jets. The Netherlands had a huge arsenal of F-16's!

[@Elbereth_TV]

still waiting for the Bk39 and the IRIS-T for Gripen xD

[@AntiCranium]

why does this new f-15c have the fuselage bulges from the f-15e strike eagle are they just combining two aircraft into one or just clueless

[@SCATXXV]

Cos they were developed as "fast" tanks for the C and D. The difference is that the fast tanks don't have the 6 bomb release units that the e model CFTs have

[@TikerFighter]

It’s so sad to see that Germany went from one of the top nation to a minor nation

[@miep6463]

In air yes in ground not so much

[@makimaki6607]

yeah not so much in ground

[@PansiusiakPiotr]

Just like in real world

[@miep6463]

@@PansiusiakPiotr fax

[@jaroslavsoukal3224]

Moustache man should've tried harder so Germany would actually has something nice and unique in terms of aviation tech tree after the rank V... dude got a huge L and now Warthunder players have to suffer...

[@Barkod381]

When does the update get released?

[@AaronOropeza-p1t]

Why and how do you have so much golden eagles

[@BohemianCloud35]

Im so sad that the Bison is premium... it didn't seem OP, just quirky, and I was excited for it... damn. Edit: is it now the lowest BR R-73 slinger? Did the Su-25bm go down with the GRB-ARB separation or no?

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

They also gimped the entire point of that fighter. It’s supposed to be a MiG-21 that can carry R-77’s. Absolutely wasted the plane as a premium :/ Bunch of people from India will still buy it though.

[@tunnel598]

i really want them to add the python 4 already

[@Forestmarko]

I know that the Eurofighter Typhoon will join us sooner or later, but couldnt they give the AMRAAM to the Tornado IDS for Germany? flying the F4 in top tier will be just... terrible..

[@Lithiummangel]

Or finally add the f4 ice

[@SnoW-pk9zo]

That’s the top tier f4 dude

[@Forestmarko]

@@SnoW-pk9zo its still the F4 .. what do you expect to do against F-15C or SU-27 ? i mean.. other than die...

[@fboyg91]

while i am NOT happy being told to drag a 75 year old jet into 12.7 because gaijin thinks AMRAAM will somehow save that shitbox, the tornado is functionally worse. that thing cant even dogfight the worst 3rd gen.

[@Forestmarko]

@@fboyg91 eh... fair enough..

[@JakeWhoArtASnake]

They should get the rights to use Metallica's "Seek and Destroy"

[@EL_CHPP0]

Still no br decompression?

[@RedXlV]

The only BR decompression is that they've added a new 13.0 BR at the top. Which is really all Gaijin ever does to "decompress".

[@EL_CHPP0]

@@RedXlV typical gaijin, does everything too late

[@4voilier315]

Finally France will be with a good air tree

[@TikerFighter]

It was a very good one before already

[@Frost_x_NB]

France has the better F16s now. It’s dumb. Once again America getting shafted on its own vehicles.

[@shugie6350]

this is just what happened irl, export customers upgraded their aircraft while the US stopped upgrading theirs after F-22 and F-35 went in service, the only ones still receiving upgrades in US service is the F-15 and F-18

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@shugie6350this is not how it works because the F16C block 50 in game is gimped to hell as far as its tech and missiles. It’s all arbitrary by gaijin. Even then there’s the F16C block 70 made by the US as well which would be better than every F16C ever built except the Export block 72 which is just the same plane with worse missiles usually. When the US exported their aircraft they were almost always older than the ones in US service and the export countries didn’t get access to the best US missiles so they either had to use the ones they got or get better ones from somewhere else.

[@leonardogoulart3245]

Lol, not a single truly new plane, just different variants. Meanwhile: f-18 when, su-24 when, eurofighter when. Also, some forgotten gems like f-101, f-102, f-106, su-9, su-11, su-15, mig-25, tu-28, mirage 4, when? Plus, all the bombers... oh yeah, wt doesn't do bombers anymore.

[@Bombrothers]

Copy and paste, Snail's motto nowadays. Might be cheaper for licensing from what I can tell but with how much players pay for ge/premium it shouldn't be that big of an issue right?