Teddy Atlas on Ali vs Frazier 3 Thrilla in Manila - "Pure Brutality" | CLIP

Teddy Atlas shares his thoughts on Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier 3, "Thrilla in Manila" fight. Clip pulled from Episode 66, full episode here: • Q&A with Teddy Atlas "...
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[@CC-ff7ft]

Any man watch the Manila fight ,it just humbles you seeing what they went through,amazing &still the greatest heavyweight fight ever fought. R.I.P. to Ali &Joe.

[@enlightenedwarrior7119]

Idk Foreman vs Lyle is a freaking slugfest

[@CC-ff7ft]

@@enlightenedwarrior7119 that's a good fight but doesn't come close to the Manila fight + Ali beat them both. But it is a great fight , two sluggers going at it.👍

[@danrayan6415]

It's crime to go through a 15 rounds of brutality .fights should not go more than 10 rounds .we are talking about such these fights Ali and Frazer .do we remember how George Foreman gasped out after 7 rounds against Ali . Even Ali whispered to Foreman you still have 6 more rounds to go . 15 rounds too much and brutal .

[@johnberger5539]

@@enlightenedwarrior7119 Yes, it was. But ALI/Frazier III went 14 rounds. And, based on will alone, Frazier would have fought the last round had not Eddie Futch stopped the fight. It's the best heavyweight fight in history, if not the greatest in any weight class. Indeed, the whole heavyweight division was replete with talent when you add Foreman, Lyle & Norton to Ali & Frazier. There was nothing like it before and nothing like it since. It was the golden age of heavyweights.

[@toomuch9762]

The last few rounds of that fight was just brutal. You knew you were watching two guys that were fighting to the death or willing to. They were leaving their souls in that ring. An epic moment in history and not just sports history

[@Guitar387]

I don’t care what anyone says boxers are not like this anymore , it was a golden era for a reason and has not been surpassed.

[@sam.luyben4140]

@Dezi King your a joke

[@sam.luyben4140]

@Dezi King wilder can't fight walking backwards and Nobody not even forman could stop Frazier walking forwards

[@sam.luyben4140]

@Dezi King Wilders power is overrated and that's all he has

[@raz_nick4048]

Wilder has power but he would never be champ in the 90s let alone the 70s

[@tomcook3860]

@Dezi King people have been getting bigger over the last 100 years. If Fraizer was here today he'd be closer to 16 stone. Most of us today dont carry the functional strength of previous generations. My deceased grandad worked in the mines after walking there 8 miles there and back. Came home and grew his own veg and on top of this trained in the gym. Im mad for excersise but im no where near as naturally strong as a labourer on a farm.

[@FirstPlace97]

Hands down the best fight of all time

[@alcottdevalte7440]

Ali is brilliant, all of his fights needs to be released in HD, even those without colors must be released in colors. Ask Teddy to do fight commentary on these classical fights...

[@radioraheemcarter1272]

alcott devalte I agree Ali fights ate monumental

[@listennow1537]

Yeah so we can see his loaded gloves

[@eyesnapples6167]

@@radioraheemcarter1272 Not all of them. Norton, Wepner, Liston II, Frazier II, Shavers are all underwhelming fights.

[@saqib7965]

They had wars in the ring back in the 70s Ali Frazier Foreman Ken Norton Etc

[@titoramone4465]

That 70's Heavyweight division was literally a murderer's row of who's who. I really don't think there was anything like it before or since.

[@notkingali1798]

That’s why it’s considered the golden age of boxing.

[@peterchavez899]

Shavers

[@20FreeWill]

@@titoramone4465 88-98 had alot of good heavyweights

[@titoramone4465]

@@20FreeWill true. BUT, those '70's fighters really stood out to me.

[@edwardrhodes1518]

Ali did ALL that he did - despite the FACT, they took away THREE years of his Prime

[@TonkaGoldman-xd5iw]

Same as Don Bradman. Missed 7 years due to the Second World War. Then came back and smashed India all over Australia.

[@MuhammadAliGOAT]

Almost 4 years

[@TonkaGoldman-xd5iw]

@Richard Milliken have you ever been hit in the head with a cricket ball being hurled at you at a hundred mile an hour over 22 yards with no helmet, rubber gloves, on uncovered pitches? They had to change the rules of cricket to stop the poms from doing it EVERY SINGLE TIME. NB. Phil Hughes got hit and it killed him. He's dead.

[@kopklop9146]

Thats why he had no.prime

[@edwardrhodes1518]

@@kopklop9146 And that is what we may not have seen - Ali in his True Prime

[@klaudioabazi4478]

While the 1st Ali v Frazier fight might be technically better. The Thrilla in Manila is the mos epic and dramatic, and therefore much more than memorable. The Thrilla in Manila is Eternal Glory in Boxing History.

[@Baba24M]

I think 1st was more epic cause they never faced each other and both were unbeatable, and the fight was awesome.

[@matthewellis8626]

Both were Life and Death!!!

[@izzifamilyadventures5490]

I love both fighters but Joe Frazier is my favorite. Pure bad ass!

[@incognito9909]

Well not beat up I just couldn't see.

[@falcon6415]

Nobody lost on that night they both fought with pure heart guts and determination it was a once in a lifetime fight between two of boxings greatest champions and I'll never forget it when I watch the thrilla in manilla it brings me to tears till this day they both gave EVERYTHING in that ring !

[@godsnobody2915]

The "Thrilla in Manila" is the only fight that ever made me wince continuously. A close second was the first meeting between Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Berrarra. The sweat-soaked gloves at the Thrilla contributed to the brutality of the blows. The squeaking shoes gave it an eerie feeling too.

[@bobbestofbobs]

This was the greatest fight of all time, but it also wen't too far with these 2

[@SSR175]

Very well said Mr Atlas. They weren't fast enough to get out of the way of each other's punches. It was a question of how much punishment each fighter can withstand and dish out. They both nearly died that day. And even when you're watching it over 50 years after it was actually fought, you're still deeply affected by the brutality of it. Two gladiators who simply wouldn't quit.

[@Jay-fw8uc]

Doesn't get talked about enough Ali's courage. He was unbelievably brave in that ring. Fought ken norton a whole fight with a broken jaw. Unreal.

[@85passthru]

wrong...Norton broke his jaw in the 14th round...Ali lied

[@gregoryphillips3969]

Your point is so excellent. Ali had more courage than George Foreman. He made Foreman quit and then took him out. Ali, in round 5 asked Foreman, "ls that all you got George, "? Foreman said, "Yep." Angelo Dundee told Ali going into round 6 to get everything over with before Foreman lands a lucky punch. Ali forever the entertainer wanted to give fans their money's worth. Remember Foreman was mean enough to fight a full grown lion that attacked his brother. That's how tough Foreman was. For so many reasons that most people don't comprehend Ali was not only the greatest but to me the bravest athlete ever in any sport. At Foreman's absolute peak there was no other man who could have faced him down but the greatest Muhammad Ali.

[@vgr112261]

@@85passthrunope. Watch the fight and commentary. Ali was showing a broken jaw early in the fight.

[@hammer44head]

@@85passthru - Norton - ALi fight was 12 rounder, i think you mean 11th round as i do also, i dont believe for a second ALi fought with a broken jaw for 10 rounds, only an idiot would fight with a broken jaw and Ali was no idiot. I love Ali pretty much all fighters from the old days but these young Ali fan boys believe every myth about him like he's some religious icon or something, like Jordan and John Lennon fans. Creepy!

[@thespy7795]

​@@85passthruIt was a 12 round fight idiot.

[@louisbecke2348]

Most of Ali's brain damage came from sparring. He would let guys hit him as hard as they could thinking it would condition him to take hard shots. Thats why he often pissed blood in training camp.

[@HQLondon23]

Yeh his Pachecho said he would take kidney punches to better be able to absorb them. He was there after the fight in Manilla and Ali was pissing blood. Even in the open press training all would take brutal body shots. Still the greatest and he always said don't ever feel sad for him. But I can't ever watch Ali Frazier 3 or Ali Holmes. Hurts man.

[@ascendantking2178]

@@HQLondon23 fighters back then didn't have the advantage of modern medecine and technology and I read ali's book and he said he would do these techniques that he learned from old time fighters like Jack dempsey. Fighters now have better ways to condition their bodies

[@eyesnapples6167]

That's retarded and it's sad Ali fell for that bullshit

[@vgr112261]

@@ascendantking2178 then why do they look like fat slobs?

[@vgr112261]

@@ascendantking2178I disagree. How else do you condition yourself to take body shots than to take them in training?

[@stonecoldku4161]

I remember watching the replay of this fight for the first time a long time ago. You could tell by the end of that fight those two men were never going to be the same again. They left a piece of themselves in that ring that they were never going to get back. It was a war.

[@abudujana13]

Thanks for the video, THE FIGHTS WITH TEDDY ATLAS

[@ireneugeba5282]

Thrilla in Manila is the best heavyweight boxing fight I have ever seen. Ali and Frazier put their lives on the line.

[@f.danielsomrack8415]

Thanks Teddy. You got it right. Eddie Futch told me Joe was furious he stopped the fight. He had to physically hold him down on the stool to stop him. A different breed.

[@DoggieNYC]

It's sad rhat Eddie in good conscious, could send Joe out there again. Breaks your heart.

[@patrickraymond5855]

Futch made the right call. Frazier was losing on three judges scorecards and took a lot of punishment in rounds 13 and 14 when he was nearly blind. There was no sense in letting Frazier spend another three minutes getting hit by punches he couldn’t see.

[@ryanslattery3936]

Joe was always my favorite fighter. You had to almost kill him to beat him.

[@iceman4262]

They r warriors they wouldn't want it any other way they're willing to die

[@Mousevengeance]

Frazier had even more heart than Ali

[@mrt5903]

When they both come out for the last round unable to really move. Iyou have to clap at the screen even though it was years ago.

[@pfunkster83]

Because of the time difference in the Philippines, the fight was in the afternoon. And it was very hot and humid. At least Frazier had the sense to retire after his next bout with Foreman.

[@joeygonzo]

Frazier fought AGAIN after Foreman . Had a draw with Jumbo Cummings .

[@BeSTGaME225]

@@joeygonzo that was 5 years after

[@Batman-jc5uc]

I have been to Manila twice. The Philippines is like Florida on steroids. Extremely hot and humid all the time and all year round.

[@Batman-jc5uc]

I have been to Manila twice. The Philippine heat and humidity makes Florida look like a walk in the park. When Ali and Frazier fought it was 120 humid degrees in that arena. I do not know how they lived through that.

[@ascendantking2178]

Adrenaline kicked in

[@PhoenixProdLLC]

Wow about the gloves. It's those kinds of little details that make listening to a historical recollection that much more interesting. Take care guys!

[@markhiggins8315]

Teddy knows his stuff no question but all you have to do is watch the fight and it's pretty obvious what happened with the gloves. Teddy has many interesting insights but this really is something anyone who actually has two eyes would be aware of.

[@tommymorgan73]

I just love listening to Teddy. You can tell how much the sport means to him

[@mcflotty]

I saw a documentary once where someone said Ali and Frazier never forget for the championship of the wold but for the championship of Ali and Frazier. Or something to that affect.That fight could never be rivaled in my humble opinion. The sustained brutality the entire length of the fight was just unbelievable. That either of them could give or take that is beyond words.

[@coda700]

No heavyweight fight rivals it I don’t think either ,except for maybe their first fight. The first Holyfield /Bowe does deserve an honorable mention though.

[@mcflotty]

coda700 yes, it just total brutality. There have been many great fights but that thing was savage lol. Neither walked out the same but if they fought again it probably would be a repeat. They just killed each other

[@coda700]

Scott Schmitz yeah they both should have called it quits after this.

[@mrvillan6951]

Thomas Hauser. Ali's biographer.

[@boblarry649]

Perfect spot on analysis my 2 heroes fighting to near death hard to watch

[@davidnetterwald1846]

I watched clips of that fight and it was absolutely brutal I’ve never seen two fighters savagely beat each other to the point where neither fighter if the fight wasn’t stopped after the 14th round. Wouldn’t have been able to continue these men for 14 rounds in the sweltering heat went punch for punch and didn’t even care about their own wellbeing. It was absolutely insane to see how two men could have that degree of animosity towards one another.

[@finoroverato7640]

Great insight by Mr Atlas a true boxing expert.Thank you

[@wespaul9345]

Nice to know you're still human, Mr Atlas. Merry Xmas and keep on keeping on.

[@Dangerous2099]

I’m more of a Frazier fan than Ali fan. Frazier represented the blue collar man. 🥊

[@sallgoodman2323]

I loved his hooks, the power behind them and the pressure he applied to his opponents

[@boxingmonthly]

LOL. Ali represented the WORLD

[@burrellsolomon7555]

Show your face coward stop being jealous of Ali.you love Donald Trump clown.😂😂😂😂

[@radioraheemcarter1272]

Frazier is cool if you like second class

[@Slave4urself]

And you don’t think Ali represented the same thing ?

[@pjtheory]

Ali-Frazier III probably gets a majority of the pub as being the greatest heavyweight fight of all-time, but Ali-Frazier 1 was and/or is a better fight. Two undefeated champions, Frazier in his prime, and Ali slightly past his prime. That fight was closer than their 3rd fight, Ali urinated blood after the fight and his jaw was grotesquely swollen, and Frazier was in the hospital for 2 weeks. Frazier also proved that he was the greatest pressure fighter in heavyweight history. Marciano threw more punches and Tyson moved in quicker, but neither fighter combined punching volume/constant pressure like Smoking Joe. Frazier was 20 pounds heavier than Marciano, he was a far better body puncher, and he had quicker hands and feet. Frazier had far greater stamina than Tyson, he was a better inside fighter, and Frazier's heart/will to win was at another level. IMO, there is little chance that a prime Marciano and/or Tyson would have defeated the Ali that fought Frazier in the Fight of the Century.

[@user-nv2wt4hi8t]

Brilliant comment.

[@amanibey1391]

You are the best Mr. Atlas I live in Japan, and we love you in Japan.

[@muginthugin9416]

Greatest series ever, they gave a piece of themselves to us,,, they were warriors it had to be that way. I don’t lament their sacrifice it was beautiful, we all die we all suffer one way or another they live on and are remembered,

[@nylesfrench3568]

It was a Beautiful Brutal Poetic war of Attrition. 15 Rds! Fighting for 1hour. Great breakdown by Teddy who talk about the souls of the Warrior here. Didn't know that fact about the gloves. Damn. Another Era indeed. My Grandsuns only 8 he'd look at this the way I'd view the Dempsey or Armstrong Louis Era

[@nicholaschacon7785]

True facts

[@royaljai5009]

They had each won one and this was going to be the tiebreaker ...

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Just one correction it was foam, not Horsehair and cotton, foam was introduced in the late 1950s. But I think he is right there was definitely a degradation of the foam over that fight.

[@therealc.t.7085]

How can you be sure it was foam or horsehair? There’s still instances today where fighters use them.

[@michaelmooney7341]

Atlas So Smaaaaarrrrrrtttttt!!!

[@yinkaoyesanya8159]

Very well detailed by Teddy Atlas.

[@joeygonzo]

Teddy, the picture of Ali's left glove behind you shows it was MUSHED! Everlast still uses horse hair padding on their MX fight gloves .

[@willis26311]

Ali and Frazier went almost 15 rounds in temperatures reaching in the high 90's with extreme humidity. These men beat each other almost to death and put their greatest, hardest efforts. Both men had to dig as deep as human being could go, risking their lives. Both men were never the same after this fight. Had Frazier got off the stool for the 15th, one or both of these men could've died... Greatness in all aspects. Both men deserved to live in peace and harmony after this fight. Yet, both men chose to continue on and still win. Amazing...

[@sannyahmed359]

Most dangerous boxing fight🎉

[@dragonblade6892]

Wilder and his casual fan boys talking and bashing people and saying he wanted to go on his so called shield and was willing to die - I say bullshit when Frazier and Ali went at it those were the fights where you could see both were willing to die till this day on screen you can see that .. no boxer has that kind of heart anymore

[@danrayan6415]

Boxing today worth not watching .

[@Boxeo250]

@@danrayan6415 I watch boxing matches from 1930s to 1990s Cus there infinitely better than today’s.

[@Stephan814]

Facts

[@jyankowsky]

Wilder would’ve been knocked out by Jerry Quarry for chrissakes..

[@Kidgavilan700]

If Tyson had the character and heart of Ali or Frazier he would have been an all time great. Instead he’s just an all time great puncher. This fight I watched live and remember thinking I just saw pure heart and guts and character from two warriors. It damaged both of them.

[@ericanderson7059]

Where is Joe Frazier mouthpiece ? What a piece of memorabilia .

[@sannyahmed359]

The best no. 1 match in boxing😍🤗💚

[@PapaEli-pz8ff]

VERY brutal fight. The older I get, the harder it is to watch this great match!

[@The_Void_Staring_Back]

Truly one of boxings most legendary, and yet darkest fights..... Those 2 men truly, almost literally, beat the brains out of each other....

[@ahmedraza-kd2dc]

teddy i am from pakistan i am your fans ans like your analysis hope one day i wil meet you

[@DoggieNYC]

Brutal fight

[@fearlessartist3457]

Ali is G.O.A.T. One of the best fights in history

[@ringmasterjeb3453]

Ali got away with holding behind the head the entire fight. I still suspect his gloves were full of water, they fell apart and were broken down like nothing I have ever scene in any fight. Great fight. Both are my hero's to this day. Heaven has some cool stories between them both.

[@vgr112261]

And Joe got away with hitting below the belt the entire first.

[@jjs7396]

@@vgr112261 yup hitting on hips but hey not none of them complained like today fighters ,they were warriors

[@jahleelsayers-ns3ze]

That was the first two fights. Especially the second fight. During the third fight the ref smacked his hand off the entire fight and ali did a lot less holding.

[@YST187]

Teddy is coughing !

[@Guitar387]

I’m not on about skill level I’m on about the legendary fights and heart these guys had , styles make fights , these guys went 15 rounds and boxed more than once or twice a year and they always fought the best no dodging , Wilder or any other current heavyweight wouldn’t of lived in the ring with those guys. Actually Frazers constant pressure style would put Wilder on his back foot and besides power Wilder can’t box going forward or back , a prime Fraser would probably F**k him up anyway.

[@joeygonzo]

They fought indoors on a Sunday noon in Metro Manila so the fight could be shown live at midnight NY time . They wore 8 oz Everlast gloves with horse hair padding under outer foam. Ali's gloves were practically destroyed by the 10th round . At the end of the 12 round, Ali supposedly asked Dundee to cut his gloves off as he was dying from exhaustion. Dundee told him no way because he was way ahead . Joe was legally blind in the right eye. His left eye was practically closed and could no longer see Ali's punches. So, Futch stopped the fight . And on that same card, future world champions Rolando Navarrete and Larry Holmes fought . Navarrete lost his Philippine bantam belt that morning. Larry won his bout. He was also Ali's chief sparring partner for this fight . In the documentary, you can actually see Ali beating the snot out of Larry Holmes . The referee Carlos Padilla was not the first choice for the fight. The head of the Games and Amusements Boards of the Philippines inserted him . The fight officially happened in Oct 1,1975, Manila time. But, most have it as Sept 30,1975. And oddly enough, the fight was actually not held in Manila City. It was held in Quezon City . Ali did stay at the Manila Hotel . Ali invested some of his money from the fight and became part owner of the Ali Mall near where the fight was held .

[@marcbriseboise1850]

Ali asked Dundee to cut the gloves off in the 1st Liston fight and Holmes left Ali's training camp after the Foreman fight

[@dfpguitar]

professionally wrapped hands with a knuckle bump and leather on top is a lot worse than bareknuckle in terms of focused hard impact and cuts. but for concussion an brain damage boxing gloves in perfect condition are actually worse than bareknuckle. Because hands are protected, cuts are prevented yet all the kinetic energy still goes into opponents skull. This is why they got rid of head protectors in amateur boxing. Protectors only prevent cuts, which actually prolongs fights leading to more brain trauma. if Frazier and Ali did all their fights with true bareknuckles it is unlikely they would have ever gotten any CTE at all. Because only one or two power punches can be landed before a fight gets called from blood or hand injuries.

[@MegaSmarterthanyou]

The first fight was always the best , ppl dont understand , they were both undefeated and in thier prime , in the first one , that was a fight ! Atlas was right and i always tell that to ppl , the manila fight they were well past thier primes , heavier , slower , etc.....

[@djb2197]

Cough 😷 cough 😷 hope your ok teddy

[@G.M.1944]

Joe Frazier when watching this fight on a small tv when interviewed for a documentary about this fight and his rivalry with Muhammad, winced when he saw some of those damaging blows back and forth again, decades later. He didn’t want to admit it then, like the proud man he was, but he also was pushed to the brink of collapse, not just Ali. But Joe, like Muhammad, would never have quit by himself, no way. Either KO by collapse, or the ref would have had to stop it in round 15. We never got to see that round. But at least both men left that ring with their dignity intact.

[@hames7497]

15 rounds of war is another level of mental fortitude respect

[@truthhitman7473]

That was a murderous fight.

[@Ffeoli1039]

I couldn't imagine what it would be like if Frazier and Ali didn't fight in the same era. Boxing just wouldn't be the same.

[@antonioangelocento9855]

What would have happened in round 15 ,,,?? Eddie Fitch make a really bad decision to have Frazier quit after the 14 round ,and that why Ali Frazier 1 will always be in my mind a better fight ,,, even because more vicious punches were landed

[@axlslak]

I appreciate this analysis. I mean, I am not a boxing guy, I like basketball, but even there, I'm biased against my guy. But even so, there's big differences in how basketball was played over the years. It has become less. brutal for athletes to compete. Which is a good thing for athletes, not so great for the sport. But, maybe in a generation or two we'll just clean ourselves of the last remaining remnants of people like me. Anyway, these 2 guys, maybe should have fought. But who could have stoped them at the time? I think the thing that people miss about this fight, is how hot it was. I mean, they say it, but they don't realise what it means. These 2 guys had to fight in 40 degrees Celsius. 104 Fahrenheit. I don't if you played any sports, but temperature matters. Its too cold, you can't warm up your muscles. Its too hot, you can't breath properly and you can't cool down. This is the equivalent of torture. The environment they were in, was completely improper for a fight. You want maybe 25-27 degrees for a fight. You don't want humidity. Don't want smoke. They got all 3. I don't know how they survived. I know from summer basketball, you just have to stop sometimes to let the heat out of your body. You need a shady place, some cool water and a break. Maybe like 10-15 minutes. These guys had none of that. And I never played in 40 degrees. At best I would play in 30, and retreat sometimes to 27. This is completely insane. And back then, I think they would smoke in that thing. And there was NO ventilation. They were like deprived of oxygen, super hot, dehydrated probably. Its just insane what they did to themselves and each other.

[@RobRivShowsLive01]

Teddy I Wish You Spent Time On When Ali Called Frazier A Gorilla And When Ali Cheated On His Wife During The Thrilla In Manilla!!!

[@vgr112261]

Such a sad fight.

[@ultrazls1]

Eroded skills at 33? I feel like Ali in Manilla was his best combination of size and power and speed. Experience etc. slightly slower than his prime but better in almost every other way

[@Rebelconformist82]

No, his reactions etc were gone

[@vgr112261]

Hand speed? Yes. Foot speed and leg endurance? No.

[@youtoo2233]

Close fight at the time of the stoppage. Ali seemed a couple of rounds ahead

[@G.M.1944]

They were trying to kill each other, especially during the Championship rounds, championships of each other as tough men not just as boxers, and nobody was going to quit anything, either one could have had a stroke.

[@jonnybravo3055]

Ali won the fight but lost his health. He should gave never fought again. Frazier on the other had lost the fight but won his respect back.

[@evanbarr9270]

Ali would never quit ,he was pummeling Frazier.No w a y he quits with 1 more rd. When he knew Frazier was spent. Ali was hitting Frazier at will .it makes no sense Ali Quiting.

[@WilliamCurry-bh3dk]

what a war

[@sannyahmed359]

Ali is no. 1 only😍🤗🇵🇸♥️

[@jerrylanglois7892]

'' Separation of the horsehair '' -- the gloves splitting ? Waaa ?

[@kendrahwhyte9816]

And was the fight even necessary, were they that in need of money? What was there to prove?

[@adeanjy4155]

Bitterness and money.

[@ikeman9784]

Yes definitely Ali in fact I think he might have even been in debt with the IRS...

[@weathersbythesavagereacts2853]

Actually watch the documentary. In ali's mind this fight was a favor to joe frazier and a quick way to throw an old friend a million dollars. Ali was high off the victory of the foreman fight. He spent his training camp toting his mistress around the Phillipines as his wife and being loved and praised and admired by the natives while joe secluded himself and trained like a trojan warrior. He actually believed he was gonna stop joe early

[@rexrogers1859]

They were warriors.

[@SurferWilly]

Ya have to watch part 1 & 2 first to trully get the brutality of the 3rd

[@agip07]

Atlas mentions the horse hair gloves. Those are the same gloves that Mayweather and maidana had a disagreement about before their fight. And it’s the same gloves Tyson said he would purposely wear down before his fights so his knuckles could pierce through. Those gloves need to be outlawed.

[@shumardi1]

I think Ali beat Frazier because of how much Foreman took out of Frazier.

[@joshuatree5620]

You would be wrong,thats like saying Holyfield beat Tyson because of how much Buster Douglas took out of him.

[@leoderosia9279]

14 rds in 108 degree heat too, how did they ever do that? They never shouldve fought a 3rd time and both were finished after manila....warrior like , courageous but they both suffered brain damage , kidney problems

[@jackhammer2671]

The last of the GREATS in boxing....As much as I like both if Ali hadn't been banned from boxing 67-70 the 3 best years of his prime Frazier would have never been champion...Ali lost a lot in those 3 1/2 years and if Frazier would have fought a 67 68 69 Ali there is no way he'd have beaten him...IMO Ali was in the heavyweights the G.O.A.T.....However I think prime vs prime Ali and Mike Tyson it would have been one hell of a fight as I believe in the heavyweights the only guy that could have beaten Ali was Tyson.....Never mind the Marciano's and Joe Louis's they were greats in their own times but just to small and slow to beat a prime Ali.

[@DaxSports1]

There's a clip somewhere of Mike Tyson talking about how Ali was willing to die in the ring. Tyson said even though he talked the talk he wasn't willing to die in the ring like Ali. When Mike Tyson says he ain't willing to do something in the ring that you are that speaks volumes...... Cause Mike bit a guys ear off. 👂 🙉

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

Did either of them break any of their knuckles in that fight? Most boxers aren't used to hitting with the knuckles like that which is why Tyson broke his hand when he got in a street fight in the late 80s.

[@ascendantking2178]

Exactly and the material of gloves back then gave less protection to the fighters hands. They probably did break knuckles and ribs but adrenaline kept them going

[@mattarrington4746]

Both fighters should've retired after that fight, they had nothing left to prove after that fight!!!! It was brutal....

[@bandit7498]

What do you mean nobody ever talks about it? Of course it’s been talked about that their skills had eroded. Of course the gloves had been talked about. The gloves were water logged and it’s been well documented. Nothing new here.

[@ThefightingCelt]

This was the fight of any century . Ali would have got the decision anyway . It was brutal . Ali should have retired after that fight .

[@spg1026]

Teddy Atlas makes a great point about the brutality of the fight. But misses on Ali and Frazier being a degraded fighters or however he describes them. Not a man in the world could have beat Ali that night or even that year. No one. So sure he wasn’t Ali 1967 or the three and half years that were stolen from him. But really Altas makes him sound like a real has been. Frazier was vulnerable based solely on his size. He couldn’t beat Foreman or Norton. But come on he was no washed up has been. And no ever has said anything about there gloves. Not sure if it is or isn’t true. But I think it’s Atlas who is over the hill. Passionate maybe but over the hill.

[@tyjameson7404]

Too much booze 🥃 and not enough water before fights in the 1970’s…. This is why Ali Frazier killed each other 🔥🙏💔

[@K9boxing]

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[@listennow1537]

Ali was a fkn cheat. Gloves always looked suspect.

[@malikshabazz7596]

Norton vs Holmes was better boxing experts have said the same.

[@HunchoHamza]

MALIK SHABAZZ hell no!!! It was an amazing fight that went the distance but Ali vs Frazier was a split rivalry going into The 3rd fight and they were both at the time regarded as the best Heavy weights ever only Rocky Marciano and Joe Luis could be in that convo with them and the condition and heat they faught in crazy how they both survived that fight

[@Colt-ii4qn]

Good fight but not better 😐

[@biggjuntao3090]

I kinda don’t like that everyone keeps mentioning that Ali lost 3 yrs of his prime, He couldn’t fight, didn’t mean he couldn’t keep training, Floyd stays in shape year round and stay healthy whether he fights or not.💯

[@weathersbythesavagereacts2853]

Floyd didn’t have the government on his ass. As well as a world of responsibility. As George foreman said boxing was just something Ali did. He was so much more than that. A role model. A political figure. I’m a Floyd super fan and believe his boxing abilities far surpass Ali’s but don’t kid yourself. Ali dealt with far more

[@geirjohansen7375]

Still use horsehairgloves. And still used Amphetamine.

[@matthewellis8626]

I always suspected that with the sudden energy reserves and a Doctor in the corner!

[@kerryfry1857]

Watching a recent UFC fight without the crowd. When you can hear the smacking of the punches. It's barbaric no question. How is this brutality allowed in the modern era? Knowing the consequences of what happened to Ali. When heading a football is under scrutiny. Btw I'm not a UFC fan. It's a sick sport. I was asked by a friend to watch it. After watching I won't watch or promote it to anyone.

[@hames7497]

It's a brutal sport just like boxing

[@KingvKing]

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[@markhiggins8315]

Bollocks

[@julianmarsh1378]

Blow it out your ass.....that is where this stuff came from.