LEADER SYSTEM FOR SLOW JIGGING

[@fishingtacklechannel]

This was very helpful. Thanks!

[@TheFishingKit]

Glad it was helpful!

[@joseph1374sewntotal]

Excellent...thanks for verifying what I've been experiencing on the water

[@TheFishingKit]

Glad to hear that.

[@JigEmUp]

Just like the KISS principle! Thanks again 👍

[@adamd3319]

Just discovered your channel! Great stuff Kit, I've fished my whole life (in my 50s now) and I'm still learning from your channel! One thing I thought I'd mention that I didn't hear you bring up (in favor of using fluoro for jigging) is that fluoro has a lot less stretch than mono. If we're after the most sensitivity in our rigs, and the most 1:1 control over our jigs then especially with longer leaders we should be running fluoro. A 15 foot mono leader under load is going to stretch a lot more than fluoro will, especially with heavier jigs. You probably remember when we switched from everything being mono to jigging with braid decades ago and how much more sensitivity it added to the whole setup. I'm sure it won't be as profound a difference as that when you use fluoro instead of mono for a 15 foot section of line, but like you say every little bit counts! Cheers and thanks, awesome channel.

[@TheFishingKit]

Hi Adam, flouro stretches more than Mono, just that it takes more force to do it. It is stiffer which makes it a better carrier for vibration. I mentioned this in a 30min video on leaders - one of my earlier videos on jigging and it can be found in the jigging playlist. This video is sort of a shortcut. And with the assumption that people have watched the older vid.

[@adamd3319]

@@TheFishingKit thanks for the response. Yeah as a new subscriber I have only seen a few vids so far. Does that mean then that mono would stretch "first" under load but fluoro would stretch "more"? As in fluoro would stretch a longer distance than mono but mono is more likely to stretch under lower loads? One of the staple monos we use here in the pacific northwest is maxima ultragreen, it's been used for decades here and it's VERY stretchy stuff...maybe that's influenced my take on how stretchy each is. cheers

[@TheFishingKit]

Yes, mono is "softer" so it would stretch first, but if fluoro gets the load it needs to make it stretch, it will stretch more than mono would before breaking. The stiffness of Fluorocarbon is what makes it transmit vibrations more than mono, the stretch also kills the vibration. @@adamd3319

[@adamd3319]

@@TheFishingKit thanks

[@TheFishingKit]

:)

[@owenphillips9166]

Thanks again Kit. Great point you make about how many fish are available to catch in your fishery. Fishing on Okinawa main island is hard work, fishing on the outer islands is awesome!

[@TheFishingKit]

Any place that has high fishing pressure is always difficult, Owen. Japan is not an easy place to fish in.

[@JD.California_monkey_mackerel]

Thank you very much kit for this video I understand a little bit more about fishing line 🎣👍

[@TheFishingKit]

:)

[@sunilramnath8972]

Thank you for this. This video answers most of the questions I have had about leader systems for slow pitch jigging. However, I have one major question: For heavier slow pitch jigs, say, 300 - 350gr, obviously fishing in deep waters (often with current and some structures like wrecks and/or oil rig platforms), what test pound braid and mono/fluoro would you recommend?

[@TheFishingKit]

I use 40lb most times, 50 at times and I can go up to 80, but that's about it for leaders. I only use 40lb for my max 350g combo I only go higher for combos I use for up to 1000g or close. my combo for up to 350g is loaded with PE 2 (SOM L30) my L50s are loaded with PE 2.5 L80 with PE 3 L100 with PE 3 and PE 4. The L100 combo can go up to 1000g and used to fish 500m or more.

[@bryanhawkes2720]

Do you have a video about boat control for slow jigging?

[@TheFishingKit]

I don't have a boat :D

[@iskandarbz]

Kit, for shallow depth areas do you still stick to length you have mentioned?

[@TheFishingKit]

Yes. depending on the fish I go after, the only thing that gets adjusted are the diameters (or poundages) so if I go shallower, I also go lighter.

[@iskandarbz]

@@TheFishingKit thanks Kit, yeah I just saw your videos on shallow depth where u explained on usage of the reel for fast jig too.

[@TheFishingKit]

👌

[@sebbosaurus]

Can this system be applied to mechanical/speed jigging? The primary target I go for offshore jigging is Yellowtail what I'm wondering about is the shock absorbance of a shorter leader. This is fascinating insight, thank you for sharing

[@TheFishingKit]

I use the same system for my fast jigging setups. But the sizes are heavier. I start with 50 and go up to 80/100 for the same waters we fish in.

[@sebbosaurus]

@@TheFishingKit Thank you Kit really appreciate it, been scratching my head tweaking leader lengths this helps a lot

[@TheFishingKit]

@@sebbosaurus my pleasure :)

[@Денис-р5о3з]

Hello! In the video about reels for depths of 50-100 meters, you said that you use a 0.8 braid. With this braid are you also using a 40lb leader?

[@TheFishingKit]

No, I use 12,15,17 for 0.8

[@Денис-р5о3з]

@@TheFishingKit Thank you!

[@netanelzoukaron1883]

Out of my experience In Israel, we mostly fish at ships wrecks! We do a 10m’ leader since after the hock up, fish swim in the wreck and around it. Once braid touch the wreck it’s bye bye… fluorocarbon has a chance to stand it. That’s if you can pull the fish out the wreck

[@TheFishingKit]

Fishing close to structure like that is always a challenge. Might not be the right place for slow jigging - a fast jigging setup will enable you to pull the fish out more.

[@sunilramnath8972]

I know this to be true however, here in my country (Trinidad) thats where the big groupers, big snappers and massive amberjacks are (500ft of water).They're out by the oil platforms or sunken wrecks. Fast jig setup land tons and tons of Amberjacks, but, the groupers and snappers are demersals and usually caught with deep drop method fishing. Hence the reason I wanna try slow pitch jigging.

[@isa85alshomaly]

What do you suggest leader Length/strength to me I use 1.5 PE braided line at depths from 8 meters to 20 metres, jig is from 20g to 40g😮

[@TheFishingKit]

for my PE 1.5 I use 20,25,30lb.

[@isa85alshomaly]

@@TheFishingKit thanks I have penn fathom lever drag 2 speed Is it good for slow jigging ?

[@TheFishingKit]

The standards are the Oceea Jigger and Daiwa Saltiga for slow jigging. @@isa85alshomaly

[@e4ezzat]

Great 👍

[@TheFishingKit]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@thomaslawrence3232]

Love your channel. Why do you use such a long leader? I use a 12´ 20lb leader. I am in the States and the fish I´m going after are aggressive and pleantyfull. Are your fish that line shy?

[@TheFishingKit]

Case to case basis. depends on flow, and if I put a lighter jig etc. 20 is a bit too light for the depths we fish in. I use 20 in lighter tackle.

[@Dimitrios_Kapsalis]

Hey Kit. Thanks for the info. Can't understand the rationale though about choosing the leader strength. Is this selection based on expected fish size? Another question is that when you do decide to go 50lbs , how is this compatible with a line than as I understand, in slow jigging maxes at PE 2.0 These lines can manage typicaly up to 35 lbs. What happens if you get a snag. Don't you then risk cutting at the line, instead of the leader, loosing tons of good braid? Since I am a rookie in all things slow, I hope my question is valid.

[@TheFishingKit]

Quite a few things actually - PE 2 varies it's not just 35lbs, some actually go higher, or lower - depends on the brand, the number of carriers (strands) and braiding method, which is proprietary from brand to brand. Leader size also depends on people's preferences. I stay around the 40lb range medium length for most of my jigging (fast and slow). People like using 50lb when they are after bigger fish, not for the strength but for the punishment it is able to hold up to. When the bites are a bit tough, that's when I drop my leader size to 30, sometimes 25 and have longer lengths on them to have more separation with the braid.

[@Dimitrios_Kapsalis]

@@TheFishingKit I also go over the top on leader strength (bigger than braid) sometimes, in macro or lrf, if there's a lot of punishment. I do this except from winter. Because when I snug I go in and get it unsnug

[@kizzjd9578]

In Australia we pretty much start at 100lb and work our way upwards lol

[@TheFishingKit]

If you are catching bigger fish, sure.

[@kizzjd9578]

@@TheFishingKit not necessarily bigger fish, just have 10000 sharks to race lol

[@TheFishingKit]

....tough problem to have 🤣

[@kizzjd9578]

@@TheFishingKit bloody oath, my first jigging reel I put pe1 on it and i kept snapping the line at the leader knot and lost my jigs. That was only an ocea jigger 1501 so not much drag.

[@TheFishingKit]

@@kizzjd9578 might not be the reel, could be the line, the knot. The line/knot won't snap unless there is something wrong with how it's tied, could be too much drag on the reel etc....quite a lot of scenarios.