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[@miketerzakis1022]

Man, based off this list Pressure Points seems like such a strong card! I should draft it in all my Watcher runs for sure.

[@rattled4806]

Also ahould get Alpha, solid A-tier card. Pretty underrated

[@xyndraxyndra9645]

pressure point is essentially a snowball card, it takes a bit to get going but once it gets going it gets going

[@bobthebox2993]

@@xyndraxyndra9645 but once it gets going, you're fecking ded

[@damienamarty]

I only managed to get the Minimalist achievement because I took 2 pressure points!

[@danielingalls8980]

It isn’t as good with some decks that run cards like Ragnarock or meteor strike. And you are hoping to have at least two that can snowball. But adding one in from second level up if you don’t have one isn’t always the good choice. Still solid if you can get two or three. Especially if upgraded. But enemy’s with artifact will block it. And they don’t scale on strength.

[@carlorenneraraujo]

"If you replace all strikes with cut through fate, I don't see how you can lose a run." Me: hold my winrate

[@TheFearChannel]

Copying solely for my own use, but if this brings the list to the top for everyone else then great. 1:20:02 Final Tier List 0:50 Alpha (F Tier, $80 for A Tier 59:22) 2:17 Battle Hymn (D Tier) 3:23 Blasphemy (A Tier) 4:23 Bowling Bash (B Tier) 5:56 Brilliance (B Tier) 7:21 Carve Reality (D Tier) 8:18 Collect (A Tier) 9:48 Conclude (B Tier) 10:50 Conjure Blade (D Tier) 12:20 Consecrate (B Tier) 13:11 Crescendo (A Tier) 14:05 Crush Joints (A Tier) 15:07 Cut Through Fate (S Tier) 16:33 Deceive Reality (A Tier) 18:43 Defend (F Tier) 18:52 Deus Ex Machina (C Tier) 19:56 Deva Form (B Tier) 22:26 Devotion (C Tier) 24:24 Empty Body (B Tier) 25:13 Empty Fist (S Tier) 26:40 Empty Mind (A Tier) 27:17 Eruption (C Tier) 28:02 Establishment (A Tier) 30:27 Evaluate (C Tier) 32:21 Fasting (B Tier) 33:16 Fear No Evil (A Tier) 34:16 Flurry of Blows (S Tier) 35:14 Flying Sleeves (B Tier) 35:44 Follow-Up (A Tier) 36:39 Foreign Influence (C Tier) 37:26 Foresight (S Tier) 37:59 Halt (B Tier) 39:00 Indignation (A Tier) 39:34 Inner Peace (A Tier) 40:11 Judgement (D Tier) 41:04 Just Lucky (S Tier) 41:28 Lessons Learned (S Tier) 42:33 Like Water (C Tier) 43:18 Master Reality (F Tier) 44:45 Meditate (S Tier) 45:57 Mental Fortress (A Tier) 47:24 Nirvana (B Tier) 48:20 Omniscience (S Tier) 49:00 Perseverance (C Tier) 50:11 Pray (F Tier) 50:47 Pressure Points (F Tier, $40 for C Tier 53:48, $80 for PP Tier 56:20) 52:27 Prostrate (C Tier) 53:23 Protect (B Tier) 54:48 Ragnarok (C Tier) 57:09 Reach Heaven (C Tier) 58:43 Rushdown (S Tier) 59:35 Sanctity (B Tier) 1:00:35 Sands of Time (S Tier) 1:01:33 Sash Whip (B Tier) 1:02:24 Scrawl (S Tier) 1:03:03 Signature Move (F Tier) 1:03:45 Simmering Fury (A Tier) 1:04:14 Spirit Shield (B Tier) 1:05:21 Strike (D Tier) 1:06:03 Study (F Tier) 1:07:52 Swivel (C Tier) 1:09:03 Talk to the Hand (S Tier) 1:09:09 Tantrum (A Tier) 1:09:43 Third Eye (A Tier) 1:10:45 Tranquility (A Tier) 1:10:56 Vault (S Tier) 1:11:54 Vigilance (C Tier) 1:12:18 Wallop (B Tier) 1:12:59 Wave of the Hand (A Tier) 1:13:46 Weave (A Tier) 1:14:36 Wheel Kick (B Tier) 1:15:21 Windmill Strike (B Tier) 1:16:40 Wish (A Tier) 1:17:53 Worship (C Tier) 1:18:40 Wreath of Flame (D Tier)

[@melz4662]

legend

[@CoenBijpost]

The Lord’s work! Thank you ❤️

[@Xuevium]

You are the man 👊

[@isactoicy]

Legends

[@executivelifehacks6747]

Brah!

[@TheFrostPrime]

All right all right. Hit me with your hot takes here. Which card did I get wrong? None of them? Correct.

[@quickicnh7744]

I think you're wrong with all of them

[@samadams8533]

I think the cards you undervalue are cause you don’t like the playstyle of how they synergize. Dues Ex Machina, Deva Form, Swivel, Ragnarok and Wheel Kick have great synergy with one another. Cause there is atleast two kinds of playstyles with the watcher, the quickly kill them before they kill you method with rapid form changes and lots of low damage cards, but these cards you undervalue are great on the watcher if you can defend enough to set up in one or two turns.(makes wish easier to pull off too)

[@themightypancake804]

The only thing I'd say is that you down played a bit how insight and scry go very very well together

[@zachtrimble5425]

Battle hymn good

[@oliveleaf7376]

Alpha is actually A tier, because I always draw Beta and then Omega exactly the turn after I play the previous one, and also I am averse to taking attacks and always take defense cards I think I make my case!

[@elim9054]

Master Reality really should be a colorless card, or possibly even a universal relic. Every character has multiple cards that work with it and several other colorless cards do as well.

[@colebagin2277]

I really hope their will be a 5th character eventually. I love new content especially in a game where with every new character they always have some crazy complicated new combos too explore.

[@Volactic]

Nope. They said they wouldn't

[@brasil2907]

If you play on pc there are a plethora of modded characters to try out

[@colebagin2277]

@@brasil2907 I do but they are usually super over powered

[@yasserkerbache]

@@colebagin2277 Hermit is a really good and balanced character. He's also extremely unique! I like to play The Cursed sometimes, because even though he is practically a worse Ironclad, he can be fun with some (modded) curses; like Greed.

[@Zvodenstein]

@@yasserkerbache unless they changed him since I played him ~1 year ago, hermit goes infinite extremely easily and I coasted from 1 to 20 ascension within a few days playing the same build

[@TempuraFriedJoystick]

Hearing Frost somewhat snort in laughter nearly every time he hits the Beta Art button is so wholesome to me, the art is so funny and I always love seeing Frost's genuine enthusiasm for the game even after all this time.

[@rngsmiles3979]

I will be honest, I did not know that cut through fate was a common card. For some reason my brain always thought it was a uncommon since it's such a good card that can be found relatively easily.

[@carsonroach-howell6945]

How am I only now realizing that Wraith Form, Demon Form, Echo Form and Deva Form are meant to be a "series" of cards?

[@hobez64]

A "cycle" if you will

[@elim9054]

See also: Infernal Blade, Distraction, White Noise and Foreign Influence; and Double Tap, Burst, and Amplify (I don't think the Watcher has an analogous version of those cards unless I'm forgetting one)

[@Choccymilkshakeenjoyer]

@@elim9054 She has Omniscience. I dunno if that fits in with the rest tho.

[@szelitzkyerick7456]

@@Choccymilkshakeenjoyer it does, and it's literally in it's name. Ironclad can double attacks, silent can double skills, defect can double powers and watcher can double whatever the f she wants cuz she smort af.

[@Stampede21]

The guy who got pp moved next to prostrate is the real MVP

[@mooky980]

I just Frost to know that youtube and twitch are starved for STS content. Even if it's not beating the heart. Even if it's not the craziest run ever we'll watch it. Because we love you and STS. Daily uploads like NL does with the binding of isaac would be so amazing

[@gemhunter498]

RTGame actually just played STS, so maybe we'll see a bit more content around it.

[@namakehruk]

Deva Form? More like Fasting Enabler

[@willboguemusic]

1:20:02 Final Tier List 0:50 Alpha (F Tier, $80 for A Tier 59:22) 2:17 Battle Hymn (D Tier) 3:23 Blasphemy (A Tier) 4:23 Bowling Bash (B Tier) 5:56 Brilliance (B Tier) 7:21 Carve Reality (D Tier) 8:18 Collect (A Tier) 9:48 Conclude (B Tier) 10:50 Conjure Blade (D Tier) 12:20 Consecrate (B Tier) 13:11 Crescendo (A Tier) 14:05 Crush Joints (A Tier) 15:07 Cut Through Fate (S Tier) 16:33 Deceive Reality (A Tier) 18:43 Defend (F Tier) 18:52 Deus Ex Machina (C Tier) 19:56 Deva Form (B Tier) 22:26 Devotion (C Tier) 24:24 Empty Body (B Tier) 25:13 Empty Fist (S Tier) 26:40 Empty Mind (A Tier) 27:17 Eruption (C Tier) 28:02 Establishment (A Tier) 30:27 Evaluate (C Tier) 32:21 Fasting (B Tier) 33:16 Fear No Evil (A Tier) 34:16 Flurry of Blows (S Tier) 35:14 Flying Sleeves (B Tier) 35:44 Follow-Up (A Tier) 36:39 Foreign Influence (C Tier) 37:26 Foresight (S Tier) 37:59 Halt (B Tier) 39:00 Indignation (A Tier) 39:34 Inner Peace (A Tier) 40:11 Judgement (D Tier) 41:04 Just Lucky (S Tier) 41:28 Lessons Learned (S Tier) 42:33 Like Water (C Tier) 43:18 Master Reality (F Tier) 44:45 Meditate (S Tier) 45:57 Mental Fortress (A Tier) 47:24 Nirvana (B Tier) 48:20 Omniscience (S Tier) 49:00 Perseverance (C Tier) 50:11 Pray (F Tier) 50:47 Pressure Points (F Tier, $40 for C Tier 53:48, $80 for PP Tier 56:20) 52:27 Prostrate (C Tier) 53:23 Protect (B Tier) 54:48 Ragnarok (C Tier) 57:09 Reach Heaven (C Tier) 58:43 Rushdown (S Tier) 59:35 Sanctity (B Tier) 1:00:35 Sands of Time (S Tier) 1:01:33 Sash Whip (B Tier) 1:02:24 Scrawl (S Tier) 1:03:03 Signature Move (F Tier) 1:03:45 Simmering Fury (A Tier) 1:04:14 Spirit Shield (B Tier) 1:05:21 Strike (D Tier) 1:06:03 Study (F Tier) 1:07:52 Swivel (C Tier) 1:09:03 Talk to the Hand (S Tier) 1:09:09 Tantrum (A Tier) 1:09:43 Third Eye (A Tier) 1:10:45 Tranquility (A Tier) 1:10:56 Vault (S Tier) 1:11:54 Vigilance (C Tier) 1:12:18 Wallop (B Tier) 1:12:59 Wave of the Hand (A Tier) 1:13:46 Weave (A Tier) 1:14:36 Wheel Kick (B Tier) 1:15:21 Windmill Strike (B Tier) 1:16:40 Wish (A Tier) 1:17:53 Worship (C Tier) 1:18:40 Wreath of Flame (D Tier)

[@RandomPerson28337]

I love you bro

[@bakasan0000]

Thank youuuuuu

[@bakasan0000]

This needs to be at the top of the comments.

[@TheFearChannel]

Please pin this FP.

[@robbevanduppen4171]

I'm only 10 minutes into the video but i already want to say: isn't it EXTREMELY sad how most watcher rares are kinda shitty? like now he has rated 4 rares and they are in B, C, E and F tier.... that's sooo bad... and he's actually rating them right cuz those cards are just garbage

[@Majik989]

Frost should do a strike+ tier list to tell us what the best strikes with better steps are

[@rarehatmd2120]

"Flurry of blows. This was a card, it still is a card" Only the highest quality commentary here

[@aldrinvendt8524]

I think weave should be a little higher, I freaking love that card. It's super strong because if you scry it, you can discard it, then it immediately goes to your hand, so you draw it for free.

[@damienamarty]

That's a very nifty synergy!

[@Endless_Titan]

Eruption at C tier is insane to me. It’s one of the reasons why Watcher is so consistently powerful. The ability to steamroll Act 1 is just so important and it’s all thanks to Eruption.

[@EzFlyers10]

honestly I've struggled w/the watcher for so long -- i took one major thing from this: SCRY SCRY SCRY.. and i'm breezing through ascension levels.. thanks! p.s. I just got 4 pressure points and the +2 hp relic when not taking cards.. i had well over 100 hp, nonstop pressure points, absolutely melted everything, haha. so fun

[@tarille1043]

I like Deva Form because it lets me pick up (Also, use) more Fasting even if I don't get Pellets. Otherwise, it's like a poor man's Snecko Eye (Or a Snecko Eye I can use because Snecko hates me and just makes all my cards cost 3...)

[@pvewaste]

I think you’re underrating Judgement, taking it in act 1 or early act 2 wins those acts for you (though granted watcher doesn’t need much help), shutting down birds, sentries, orb, and slavers, and helps massively in every fight with multiple enemies.

[@szelitzkyerick7456]

Just take a flurry of blows instead, it's common and it scales

[@pvewaste]

@@szelitzkyerick7456 sure but it doesn't deal 40dmg in a single draw and pierce shield

[@szelitzkyerick7456]

@@pvewaste how many enemies in the game have block? Also, it doesn't deal 40 damage in a single draw? No, it deals like 100 lol, if you build your deck right and know how to shuffle your discard pile properly, it's the highest damage attack COMMON in the game. Also you don't even have to draw it, you can scry it away and get it back when you change stances. Also did I mention it blocks for 60 in the meantime since talk to the hand exists? All in all, a stance swapping watcher with a couple flurry of blows is by far the strongest fair deck in the game.

[@pvewaste]

@@szelitzkyerick7456 sure, but that's reliant on lke 5 different rare cards to work, while judgement helps more in act 1/2 in a vacuum. And in the first place, I wasn't claiming Judgement was the best card ever, just underrated.

[@szelitzkyerick7456]

@@pvewaste tth uncommon, mental fortrrwss is uncommon, tantrum is uncommon.

[@koeagle5231]

I really love seeing devotion when I already have damaru or vise versa like knowing I'll be able to go into divinity every 2-3 turns and also if I brilliance it's like icing on the cake

[@squintzrules7326]

Been waiting on this one, as a degenerate watcher player I am very excited

[@abridge2]

As a small brain sts player, how?

[@dylzoe]

@@abridge2 its easy just take 15 pressure points and 3 judgements

[@squintzrules7326]

@@abridge2 uh yes that is what I said

[@abridge2]

@@squintzrules7326 no you don't understand, i refuse to play the watcher because she doesnt play herself

[@squintzrules7326]

@@abridge2 oh I see lmao, I feel like the watcher takes the biggest brain to learn but the smallest brain to play, just force yourself to play a stance switching or scry deck a bunch and you'll learn fast, trial by fire.

[@vantasvalentayn]

I think if PP was a colorless card, it could be the only card with Marked and still be absolutely crazy good.

[@wordtomyflag]

Pressure Points not being an attack to get the damage from Wrath really hinders it as well.

[@steamtasticvagabond474]

That does make it pair well with Like Water which encourages you to sit in calm anyways

[@tarille1043]

My main issue with PP is that Watcher doesn't have amazing Artifact break. It's why I would put TttH in A tier too. Since there are a number of enemies/bosses that have Artifact which takes time for Watcher to get through. Since you're basically relying on Sash Whip and Crush Joints unless you get Wave on a good block turn.

[@Dystopie173]

Pressure Points is the most broken Card in the game by far. If you survive the early game and get 2-3 PP's you just have to remove as much cards as possible and cycle through them infinitely. I often die or abandon in act 1 with PP, but its the combo that easily carried me to beat the heart at a20 for the first time.

[@b4ux1t3-tech]

So, watching this made me re-evaluate how i play the watcher. I just straight up couldn't figure her out for literally years, and she saty at ascension 1 while I'm at 11+ in every other class on _three different platforms_. Now, I've just come off of a five-run winning streak, just because I figured out how to actually assess her cards. You rock, man. Thanks for this great series!

[@tinkledeath9185]

I had a run with 2 omniscience and an upgraded alpha. Turn 1 alpha followed by omniscience let me play 2 omegas turn 1. I had just the right relics lol

[@rainbowskin3379]

I honestly thought you'd never do this

[@aaronmorris4327]

we need to find a seeded run now with pandoras box giving you all cut through fates

[@pokemonrampagemake]

The watcher is the most fun character for me, the two most memorable runs are a Deva Form-Fasting deck, where I had two Deva forms and three fastings, which was incredible in elite and boss fights and the second run was a divinity deck where I got Mayhem+ from a shop and it was going great until I was fighting the heart and I had a Foresight running, so I discarded the last five cards in my deck, it reshuffled and Mayhem played Conclude, which lost me the run.

[@while_coyote]

Alpha has actually saved a lot of my watcher runs, I did have scrawl tho.

[@Night_Hawk_475]

._. I have never even once taken a Cut Through Fate because it always seemed very meh as a Strike+ Today I learned, I'm just very meh at Slay the Spire.

[@zendakon8299]

spinning top deva form and explunger. My favorite combo. Add Blasphemy and that extra turn spell and nothing lasts past 6 turns.

[@saske11711]

i think the devs just genuenly didnt know how to play her so they made her commons better than average to make her "playable"

[@kylek7748]

There needs to be a separate "Bad but fun" tier because some cards are technically dogshit but are hilarious such as judgement

[@alexandersong5753]

47:10 I think you meant overestimate, that people think they're going to change stances more than they really are so they overvalue this card

[@TheInfamousTonberry]

strongly disagree with deva form, has so much synergy with omniscience, fasting, card draw and literally any X cost card

[@elim9054]

Deva form doesn't synergize with fasting so much as it mitigates its drawback to a hilariously excessive degree. Almost everything else is just stuff that you would want in any run anyway. Deva Form and Snecko Eye, though...

[@SkateFallen1424]

it's just too slow. unless you have an energy engine of some kind in place, watcher doesn't get a ton of opportunities to play a 3 cost card without paying a price

[@heroponriki5921]

I've been struggling with the watcher a lot more than the other 3 characters, and now I know why. For the other characters, I generally avoided flooding my deck with too many commons, focusing on building around rares and uncommons. It seems like for Watcher, you actually want to pick up mostly commons instead because they're busted.

[@heroponriki5921]

Update: I got home and won my first Watcher run using a deck with 6 pressure point cards and 2 alphas lol bless this video

[@adamyohan]

@@heroponriki5921 W

[@lachlanmann4511]

I love Battle Hymn. A better strike guaranteed every turn so I can focus a little more on defence cards and stock-piling for divinity or wrath. It also pairs fantastically with establishment, churning out 0 mana deal 12s on a 1 turn delay

[@AnaseSkyrider]

Yeah, ranking it so low confused me. A single card, and now for the rest of combat, you have access to high damage 1 energy cards with no draw. For every round you spend not doing a lot of damage because you need to block, this one power is stockpiling damage for when you FINALLY draw your wrath card. It's like one of the easiest cards to build around because it means you have less need to take damage cards and can focus on other cards. If you're making a divinity build, most builds are gonna be seeing at least 3 Smites before you finally change stances and nuke the fight.

[@SerialBull]

If you play it and then play the smite next turn, that’s 2 cards 1 mana each for 12 damage total (over 2 turns). You can play 2 strikes as well. A lot of combats end in like 2-4 turns and you aren’t guaranteed to draw it turn 1 unless upgraded so it’s just meh

[@ypsilondaone]

Man, 1 Mana 11 Block is damn good, i dunno why u rate swivel so low. Especially if u play some 2 mana or 3 mana attacks it becomes bonkers. negative mana cost for 11 block is insanity. easily B or even A tier.

[@emred4653]

Oh its nice to see you doing well, remember watching when i was into league

[@antreaskanaris5412]

alpha should be in the OMEGA tier. I dont know where that tier would be ( spoiler it's above S) but it definitely needs it's own tier.

[@fosterdawson7339]

When he dunks on Alpha but i've had good times with the card :(

[@unusualthoughts2658]

Honestly, conjure blade is mega goated, especially if you get it with deva form and\or master reality With watcher in general, if you stance dance or use divinity, you're generating a lot of energy and thanks to scry and things like meditate you can choose when to cash in big in making and using the expunger Master reality bumps it from a 9x damage to 15x and it becomes worthwhile even if you invest just two energy in it, or one if it's upgraded Was my trump card in my first ever heart kill!

[@MrAldari]

Dont know Alpha has done pretty good for me. Won my 14th ascension only because of it.

[@ethanglasgow7612]

What I learned: cards that are slow in watcher are bad because watcher deals 1 mana 28 damage.

[@CoenBijpost]

The constant snickering about the beta art is curing my depression, man. Unlocked the watcher yesterday, after a week of finally learning to play this game (been in my backlog for years, because I thought I hated card games… I was wrong). What a cool character. Can’t wait to master this one. This video really helps! As did the defect one. Thanks, Frost, you rule!

[@mategetsnosleep3612]

You were wrong 👌

[@Xeconis]

I'll have to wait an hour or so to watch but I will 100% leave a comment already because I have been waiting for the day this was uploaded so I can rewatch it a dozen times to cause the neural transmitters in my brain to overclock and fizzle out.

[@CoenBijpost]

Will there be a colourless card tiee list? Super interested in that! ❤️

[@kraxmishere7745]

Quick question regarding the blaspemy if you have an artifact or pellets can you get rid of the die next turn or no just asking cause im not very informed on this game

[@kraxmishere7745]

Also if i could add does establishment work with the 16 block card you talked about on defect or no

[@elim9054]

The game considers blasphemy a buff so you can't counter it with artifact or pellets. The way it works is that if you have another turn after activating it you take something like 9999 damage at the start of the turn, which afaik can be negated the same as any other damage source with a buffer or intangibility.

[@kraxmishere7745]

@@elim9054 ty for informing me

[@RobinClower]

I realize this is a year later, but I always want to point out that you need to end your turn with two intangible, because the damage is applied at the start of the next turn.

[@ReidMcCorkle]

Master Reality is good in EXACTLY one situation and that is with dead branch...which watcher doesn't even really like all that much anyways

[@surethingbob9503]

Is that the King of Heroes, The Watcher, using the Gate of Babylon? 10:55

[@MetroGinger]

Any chance for a relic tier list? Or a colorless card tier list?

[@TheFrostPrime]

Not out of the cards

[@remingtongagnard4442]

Great tier list! Glad to be able to accurately predict where a few would end up, but pleasantly surprised to learn a bunch more about this super unique character!

[@inconspicuousnoodler4322]

His pronunciation of Prostrate as Prostate is extremely cursed.

[@TheFrostPrime]

I... I genuinely thought the card was 'Prostate' and never questioned it... Frost has infected me... In other non surprising news I am bad at words -Andrew

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

35:29 WHY GIVE THE WATCHER A COMMON GLASS KNIFE THAT DOESNT DEGRADE THROUGHOUT FIGHTS? Watched already has broken common cards and wrath they don’t need that kind of training wheels. 50:52 Oof that birb

[@Abigail-hu5wf]

Most insane deck I've played was that I got Alpha + Echo Form (thank you, trade-cards-across-runs random!). The Heart didn't stand a fucking chance. 120 damage a turn is bonkers against that thing.

[@hoveringvan9961]

If two witchers were watching two watchers, which witcher would watch which watcher?

[@JBJGrandson]

In 1995 i saw a woman being kidnapped in an alley and did nothing about it.

[@hoveringvan9961]

@@JBJGrandson based

[@sigridiot7103]

despite alpha being objectively terrible, an alpha deck was still what i used the only time i beat the heart with watcher somehow. Omniscience and Vault sure helped make it workable, though i absolutely would still have got my shit wrecked on higher ascension with it

[@TheMinniman120390]

watcher has god tier beta art

[@Ringowasprettygood]

Literally just re watching all of these watcher videos until I beat a run. I don’t understand how I did with the other three within my first like 5 attempts but can’t with watcher after like 15 :(

[@gaarakabuto1]

Collect is shit. It can be handy but only if the game decided to give you only bad cards. It is a card that takes a place from your deck it's not giving you something you need, if anything it gives you something you should have plenty of but it's also late one turn. Easy b, even though it's not a great card in games that your deck sucks, it can elevate it quite a bit.

[@morenorristhannorris]

Not that this makes Deva Form or Conjure Blade Better, but I did have a lot of fun killing the act 3 boss with an attack that said "9 damage 1000 times" lol

[@pickleboy6059]

Alpha is a little better. B or A tier. 50 damage to ALL enemies every turn is nice especially since cost wise, it’s doing the same amount or more dmg of strike damage per cost to set it up.

[@4bschaum]

i played vor 100 hours now and Just now started to Play with the watcher. i'm absolutely ripping but getting caught still in wrath early in the City ist my bane

[@liamconroy699]

I might be a couple years late but the watcher beta art goes hard af

[@drekon7877]

so sad i watch this video 10 mins after mashing the heart into paste with a watcher add card deck, w master reality and smite Frost is right the cards are bad i was 'just lucky+'

[@asgerrbergkristensen7410]

Love how different this is compared to the guy with the world record winstreak

[@icecrystal7965]

Nirvana+Just Lucky Enough said Also Weave Absolutely cracked, Weave+Just Lucky

[@Our_Remedy]

'Collect is amazing because you pay for extra mana another turn' 'Dues Ex Machina is bad because you don't pay anything for extra mana another turn' ??????????????????????????????????????

[@capitaldcolonface]

One is a rare card, and Collect gives you options

[@TBmax203]

I would put Conclude lower because I always want to be in a warth stance using that to double the damage, so it "force" you to take x2 damage on enemy turn, so you want to use this strategy only when enemy doesn't attack, which happen a real few time in this game..

[@raymondbalan3460]

i would love to understand the pysche of the people who donated 240 dollars to push a card up in a tier list

[@NotBamOrBing]

How can you think Conjure Blade's beta art of Unlimited Blade Works isn't funny

[@adamyohan]

1:07:07 Frosty I love you but please for the love of God it's literally just two bosses that punish you for playing cards and I agree it's an important thing to consider you make it sound like they're common hallway fights shared amongst all three acts when it's just two bosses.

[@RaineyDaysStudio]

I'd bet money you were a fan of Tobias Fate back in the day!

[@nestorlasala8118]

Is cut through fate THAT good? Im stuck with the watcher atm(always killed at the heart) and I didnt feel that card was so special :/.

[@Xanthopathy]

And that's why you're stuck :)

[@fuzzythoughts8020]

I just started playing less than a week ago so inexperience might be talking, but I disagree HARD on Battle Hymn. I think the card is B+ - A tier. You get a reliable 1 energy attack that hits twice as hard as a strike, 24 damage in wrath mode, and the retain let's you hang on to them for a couple turns, setting up your calm and perhaps a vulnerable or something, so that turn 3-4 you can just nuke everything. Upgrading is alright but 2 per turn is cutting into your energy allotment and hand size limit too much imo. But I will gladly take an early battle hymn and basically remove every other attack, grab all the stance changes I can, and combo my way up to lethal in 1-3 turns even for harder fights like solo elites.

[@The_Mr._Biscuit]

I really rate Judgement a *lot* higher than D-Tier. Especially on the Act 1 Boss, if I flip a Judgement, against, say, a Master Reality and Conjure Blade, it's an easy pick, and it trivializes so many Act 2/3 Hallway fights. Birds? Just Judge one. Bird + Chosen One? You mean just Chosen One. Triple Jaw Wurms/Cultists? Make it Double. Sentinel/Sentry Orb? Just flatten it. And, most importantly, Gremlin Leader or Collector? Minion Nuke for 1. I'd put it B-Tier for sheer utility for cleaning one minion or enemy from so many fights.

[@elim9054]

I literally just rewatched the other three tier lists this week and was wondering when/if this one would come out

[@Rowynocity]

THE DAY HAS FINALLY COOOMMMEEE!!!

[@wellshit9489]

Blasphemy is probably my favourite card in the game, it might not be the most powerful but damn is it fun. I love it.

[@thepotatotaxi2430]

Turning into a dying goddess whom only survives if her enemies are obliterated is *METAL*

[@Reegaal]

I found Deva Form as my Training wheels for Watcher, it makes it so that I can learn the combos of cards without having to worry too much if I fvcked up my energy generation with Calm for example

[@G4mer_D4d]

I come from ygo and more aptly, mtg... it's hard to believe that people don't find COLLECT that useful. Mana ramp is ridiculous but yes, you have to draw into cheap resource cards or have expensive, op ones. Good content. Thanks for doing the work for me 😅 ❤

[@igorlopesribeiro8781]

how about relic tier list?

[@compencemusic]

just rolled thru it with hymn/smite & reach heaven/through violence as my dmg, many block cards w/a high amount of retained calm swapping, establishment, and mantra cards. the idea was to just use what i needed for the turn as i built up my mantra, then by the time im in divinity, my retain cards, battle hymns, etc all cost 0 and i can just plow through stuff then. woke bird was my final boss

[@russ2743]

αは強いけど難しいですね。

[@elim9054]

Seriously why does empty fist get so much damage when you upgrade it? You're almost always in wrath when you play it, so it's functionally +10 damage on a 1 energy card. Glass Knife doesn't even get that much!

[@ILIAL_General]

I once made a build that I called ‘Your wish is yours to keep’. I think it started with Wish off losing all your gold and then I got Omniscience, upgraded both and managed to get another copy of both so omni into omni into wish and wish so I could do stuff like 24 strength.

[@thedocblock6421]

In defense of Conjure Blade: while it's certainly not a card that you should build a deck around, I think it can be a spectacular secondary strategy when combined with wreath of flame. Especially if you're playing a deck that plays a lot of cards, like flurry, Conjure Blade can be a card to help get your through timekeeper or heart. It's not something you rely on, it's something you set up while doing your heavy stance swap bullshit

[@Klokinator]

I clicked on this video and for a second it had 0 likes and 9 dislikes. Luckily, it fixed itself.

[@jordank5551]

I cant stop watching frost prime lol i found this guy through binding with issac before he moved 😅. Makes me laugh more than any streamer and i wish this dude was my irl friend because we would have a fuckinng blast playing games lol

[@claysmith8840]

I feel the mantra generating cards are being a little undervalued here, all you need are 2 upgraded prostrates and a pray and you’re entering divinity every deck cycle, and only spending 1 mana on it. You can definitely build a deck around divinity, but I think people underestimate how easy it is to build a divinity engine into other deck types with not a ton of resources committed

[@DNLuxray]

So, we're getting a Colorless tier list, right?

[@DNLuxray]

Or even Relics

[@DoesntKnowHowToPlay]

>puts bash, a 2-energy card that gives x1.5 damage in S >puts eruption, a potentially 1-energy card that gives double damage in B

[@crazyhans]

Name checks out

[@tarille1043]

Watcher has plenty of ways to get into Wrath (Crecendo, Tantrum and Simmering Fury) which do it easier and are cards you like to put into your deck even multiple times (Tantrum is a strong attack in of itself for example) Ironchad doesn't really have that many good ways to give Vulnerable (Uppercut, Thunderclap and Shockwave) since they're kind of clunky (Uppercut only lasts 1 turn unless upgraded, Thunderclap only lasts 1 turn and Shockwave exhausts) and not really cards you'll put multiple of into your deck unless you're memeing with Sadistic Nature and Champion Belt.

[@DoesntKnowHowToPlay]

@@tarille1043 Tantrum and Simmering Fury are both uncommon. Crescendo exhausts so you can't stancedance long with it, and you're not adding multiple of them to your deck. Eruption is guaranteed and always there for you. Also, most notably, it can get rid of its 2 energy cost. Bash is always clunky to play, but Eruption+ in calm straight-up generates mana.

[@jimbotron8552]

alpha is actually an amazing card because it is the only damage card you need to include if your block based deck

[@Bananabread810]

What drugs are you on

[@karateman1988]

I just beat the heart as watcher for the first time. Thank you Andrew and Frost

[@FlourescentPotato]

1:06:18 fucking kills me, 'what the fuck am i doing?' 🤣

[@thexenocide6013]

i can tell im awful at watched bc i saw the thumbnail and thought it was just a summary of the video bc i agreed with it and then i saw the colorless tier list thumbnail and realized what the joke was supposed to be

[@ewanlee6337]

What would a safety version of Battle Hymm be ranked? Even if the block is decreased to 8~9 I’d find it handy to make sure I always the block I need.

[@AthasClover]

Frost, idk if you'll see this or not but my buddy are working on a buff/debuff slay the spire character and were curious if you had any ideas or if you'd be willing to try him out when he's finished. I know you dont really do modded content but I would be great!