Al Snow on Toxic Fandom Ruining Wrestling

Al Snow on Toxic Fandom Ruining Wrestling
WWE Legend and former ECW & TNA star Al Snow discusses how the very vocal minority of current wrestling fans are being listened to way too much by the powers that be in the major companies as they're playing the shows towards those minority fans that will watch either rather than the general public who are more interested in just being entertained by the best product possible.
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[@dieselviper7811]

He just described the internet in a nutshell

[@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch]

This

[@t.styles2k202]

Yes

[@drumitar]

he described society

[@Broncos8818]

the fans are slowly driving me out of pro wrestling for how awful people they are.

[@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842]

Al snow is one of my favorite people to listen to. Very well spoken and breaks the stereotype of dumb wrestler. He should give a Ted talk lol

[@Soulfly415]

While he's not wrong in what he says here, the majority of the fans just want to watch entertaining, well written product and to not be treated like idiоts. They have the right to be vocal when they get served trash shows, with boring wrestlers shoved in their faces.

[@heywoodjablome2767]

I doub't Al Snow is saying fans aren't allowed to have opinions and criticize shows and wrestlers. He is just saying that wrestling smarks from the internet shouldn't have a say in the booking/creative decisions of wrestling promotions, especially if they've never even worked in the wrestling business themselves.

[@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch]

Thanks for proving al snow right kid 😂😂😂😂

[@redrick8900]

Nothing is shoved in your face. Change the channel or watch a different show, and if you can't find wrestling you like on any of the 8 or 9 shows going year round you just don't like wrestling and should get into something else. I did that a couple of times and later I gave it another shot and found new things I liked.

[@vanguard4065]

al snow isn’t a real intellect lol.

[@JustinJaiC.]

*intellectual

[@MansMan42069]

And you suppose you are?

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Triggered

[@MansMan42069]

Al Snow says this. Undertaker and Goldust have said the same thing.

[@antoniobrinkley5928]

wrestling used to be so cool. now these “5 star” match marks have made wrestling into nerdy cringe culture.

[@ladistar]

Lmaoooo so true, when do you think wrestling stopped being cool

[@antoniobrinkley5928]

@@ladistarto me wrestling really stopped being cool in late 2009 and 2014 was when it went to the state of no return

[@ultimatebeing2348]

@@antoniobrinkley5928 around post wrestlemania 29 was when it started.

[@jordanking6939]

Social media broke kayfabe.

[@premiumdude8353]

Women's wrestling today sucks thanks to SJW douches.

[@Britton_Thompson]

Today's fans really are the worst part of pro wrestling currently. The fans who go on Twitter and launch into frenzied post-match screeds aren't even making a difference beyond finding other fans to argue with whenever they do this in the first place. I read recently where Triple H was telling a reporter from either Sports Illustrated or USA Today that WWE have changed their philosophy of social media simply because the feedback they got from it mostly led them astray because that type of online feedback turned out to be inaccurate reflections of 90% of their fans. They found that listening to the perpetually outraged fandom is foolish. Triple H said the knee-jerk responses you get on Twitter forced WWE to alter their social media policy altogether. Nowadays, WWE has a company wide mandate of only using social media to promote with, but to never use it as a source of feedback because it's disproportionate to where 90% of fans are.

[@jeniffer9248]

Twitter in general is horrible. Completely favours these kind of people.

[@josephpeeler5434]

That is a great insight. I think this applies to sports and politics as well. Vocal online minorities are typically the fringe. As but one example, I think that cancel culture is based on a vocal fringe that has an outsized presence on social media.

[@heywoodjablome2767]

@@jeniffer9248 Twitter and many social media platforms in general pretty much ruined all sorts of entertainment mediums, not just pro wrestling. This garbage social media era ruined comic books, video games, and many other geek hobbies that were all once considered "uncool" by normies.

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

“Twitter is not a real place”-Dave Chappelle

[@shotzcapalot]

@@heywoodjablome2767almost ruined anime for me lol

[@eshocknight9367]

He's right these fans nowadays are actually are goofy and I just started died laughing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the way he said it tho. I'm for real Al snow is legit.

[@jordansamson6071]

Two things: first, Al Snow is well spoken, intelligent and dude could work in the ring. Second, he’s not wrong.

[@TheWordMercy82]

He's not wrong here, but to quote Russell Crowe in A Beautiful mind he's just "incomplete" here. But not wrong

[@philtomkinson7956]

Watching this makes it hard to believe that he used to bring a mannequin head to the ring and no sold chair shots to the head

[@Stevenmulraney]

I've said before: every pro wrestling company should tag and remove squaredcircle users from every analysis of social media. The same goes for every other smark cesspool.

[@Kasperx138]

they're all degenerates. @@Stevenmulraney

[@Atyuialsen]

You can apply this to not just wrestling but other fandoms in movies, games,tvs etc!

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Yep

[@ermonski]

Fandoms of rock bands especially. Most of the time the worst thing about heavy metal music are heavy metal fans.

[@WittyUsernamehere]

Exactly, pretty much all fandoms will have people in it that behave exactly how Al is describing here. Video games, comic books, all types of sports, Bronies, etc.

[@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780]

true and Im a heavy metal fan myself rock in general really I have to agree just enjoy music @@ermonski

[@Mr_pai_pai]

Vaccines 😂

[@BeaterCar]

fans want to turn wrestling into their little nitch secret club.

[@adrenochromejoe7448]

They won ... unfortunately

[@adrenochromejoe7448]

@@joere-uploader5766 WWE & AEW are boring indie shows and boring nerds flip around.

[@livingforgod7693]

Snow is right about these smarks

[@livingforgod7693]

@The Contrarian boo hoo I like the word

[@smarksruinedwrestling5020]

Living For God Smarks are the cause for the downfall of wrestling

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

1000% correct. Smarks ruined wrestling.

[@gorillawhale1046]

I used to be a smark then I quit watching wrestling all together cause I grew to hate it. But a year when by and I realized I still loved wrestling. But it wasn't wrestling itself I hated I realized it was the fans I dispised. The vocal minority outrage mob of the IWC, your what cultures, cultaholic, WrestleMania, or whatever. They are who I truly hate. Cause all they do is the exact thing al snow talked about.

[@darksideon]

Same here, I love wrestling but not the smarks that come with it.

[@856rips]

Can’t stand wrestling fans. I’ve always said this.

[@poorchristopher15]

And we can't stand you either, you lowlife gamer. You are the type that gets stoned all day playing video games. It is laughable seeing your type criticze anyone.

[@856rips]

SupremeRevival155 calm down nerd, you’re going to make me cringe. You’re the type that has to stay 100ft from schools.. 😂 weirdo

[@jadoc3767]

@@poorchristopher15 Oh no bro, you got *O F F E N D E D*

[@spongeboob7913]

@@poorchristopher15 gonna cry?

[@Wrestling316]

@@poorchristopher15 🥶❄️😂

[@jacobred00]

Beautifully stated. This can apply to all sports "fans".

[@Danfrombackhome]

Jacob Allen fans of anything. Its like this with anything

[@josephpeeler5434]

It applies to politics, too.

[@juanchohitdalotto]

The ones asking for the attitude era are gonna be the same ones complaining that the product “is too inappropriate”

[@TheHannibalTV]

It will never come back in WWE

[@juanchohitdalotto]

@@TheHannibalTV and I think it’s because of the soft closed minded fans of today.

[@retronerds6884]

True the smarks will be the first ones complaining

[@nevermindgaming6848]

Facts

[@rickwoelfel4876]

This mindset could be applied to fans of legitimate sports as well. I enjoyed wrestling more when kayfabe was still the rule; you could suspend your disbelief. Now, thats impossible

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

Pro-wrestling is not illegitimate. It's a performance art form like ballet, theater or opera. Just because a dancer or an actor does not constantly exclaim "this is scripted!" during performance does not mean it's phony.

[@rickwoelfel4876]

@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 Certainly it's a performance and a very skilled one. And it takes athleticism to make it work. But it is not a legitimate athletic competition.

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

@@rickwoelfel4876 Yeah it's not and nobody says that it is so it should not be even said in this context as it's redundant and gives the impression that pro-wrestling is inferior to something else. If it were a sport, it would no longer be legitimate art and if UFC matches were rehearsed exhibitions then it would be a legit performance art and not a sport. You don't go into a NHL match and say "that's not legitimate NFL". They are still delivering what they have promised, which is hockey just like WWE, WCW, WWF etc. historically and now have delivered pro-wrestling.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

No kidding

[@theeternalslayer]

Yeah and I hate that the fans know this and think they can hijack the shows and they do because wwe decided to throw them a bone for doing it, most of the time the new fuckboy they get over 2 title defenses later they're calling him overrated and saying hes bad for wrestling! So they get behind another guy and do the same thing. They're killing wwe but they don't care. I actually like watching wwe slap around the wwe universe because it's full entitled little shitheads that think they know the business better then the people running the show!

[@ryankirk7642]

What's wild about fans nowadays is that even though they know the ins and outs of the business they still get worked possibly as much as fans of old

[@azramey1164]

Literally just described the main problem with the social media age we are in right now as a whole

[@josephpeeler5434]

I think the vocal fringe on social media is responsible for cancel culture and "woke" nonsense.

[@heywoodjablome2767]

And it's not just pro wrestling alone either that got ruined by social media. It's all sorts of geeky hobbies(like video games, comic books, Dungeons and Dragons, etc.) that were once deemed "uncool" by normies that also got ruined by social media. Pro Wrestling didn't have these fat basement-dwelling neckbeard smarks back in the territorial days when old school wrestlers used to gatekeep certain types of people from the wrestling business.

[@rh_BOSS]

Somehow it is even worse. Back in the pre-google days knowledge meant actually being able to recall certain facts from memory or at the very worst knowing where to look for them in the scientific literature. Nowadays terminally online mfers genuinely consider stuff they'd literally googled moments ago to write their snarky reply as their own knowledge. They think that they can have discussions and arguments on very niche professional topics armed with nothing more than a search engine. I've encountered morons online who thought that they've somehow "got me" while being blissfully unaware of the fact that their whole argument was based on certain things being lost in shitty automatic google translation.

[@evellegend]

Al Snow has the best outlook on everything and I agree with this particular video 100%. I hate wrestling fans.

[@TheHannibalTV]

Wow Bob I never would have guessed that about you

[@evellegend]

@@TheHannibalTV I hide it so well that's why. Lol😉

[@donnymoney4222]

@@TheHannibalTV honestly im a wrestling fan and i hate wrestling fans

[@Mustafa70116]

I actually once told a fan how he should sit back and enjoy the show, not worry about how Charlotte Flair is being used on NXT because he is not the Booker and has no experience in the business. The venom spouted at me by a group of toxic fans for calling out reached to the point that they muted me while they continued to hurl insults. They do not want to see the error of their ways.

[@JuanTomlinson472]

Sad 😅😑

[@thekoolbreezeeffect]

That's what I've noticed about the old days...we just enjoyed the product

[@heywoodjablome2767]

And these fat basement-dwelling neckbeard wrestling smarks wonder why many actual pro wrestlers in the business dislike them and don't take any of their overly-opinionated azzes seriously.

[@CLEE1395]

You lost me at toxic you femboy.

[@Mustafa70116]

@@CLEE1395 can't help you with your mental illness

[@420benton2]

He sounds like the Architect in the Matrix Reloaded.

[@m0rdecai89]

He really does. Sick of everyone and their crap.

[@TheeMikeHoncho]

This could be a commentary on cable news and politics

[@alanorange9376]

Sadly, he's right

[@TheHannibalTV]

Yes re-watching that 3 years after it was recorded today it's more relevant now than ever. AEW should really listen to this!

[@metalheadjake3339]

I mean.. I hate most wrestling fans too... and I am a wrestling fan Al Snow is right. Pro wrestling fans think they are always right

[@Neuhof90]

AEW marks: he's talking about you.

[@aaronsmith5853]

No he's not

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

@@aaronsmith5853 responding means you are proving his point. :)

[@allenwithrow9442]

He's talking about all you assholes

[@leonenarwani7258]

Wtf I have seen more toxic WWE fans than aew lol , 😊

[@Idkwhattoput-p2s]

I think he's talking about smarks, not exactly marks.

[@BlakeGibbons]

Same exact thing happened with skateboarding. Bunch of weirdos lol

[@ews6724]

Buried the smarks

[@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS]

I could listen to Snow all day. *The wrestler. Not the weather..

[@jordanking6939]

Al Snow is talking about Smarks (smart marks)who have access to the internet now are suddenly "wrestling insiders" when they know almost nothing about the business.

[@goodvibesvince]

What does everybody want?!?

[@TheBraunMachine2011]

"What does everybody need?!?" "What does everybody love?!" :)

[@JasonL77]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Yes! Agreed 100%. I’ve been watching wrestling for around 43 years and this generation of fans are the whiniest bunch of smart mark punks I’ve ever seen. I go to a WWE show or watch on TV, I want to be entertained like Al said. However, there’s always these idiots who go online and cry about how their superstar isn’t getting the right push, then when that superstar gets that push, that person is suddenly overpushed and forced down our throats. Becky Lynch is a perfect example. I could go on all night.

[@JasonL77]

@@celebrategout1008 no, but I was a referee on the Indy circuit in Minnesota for about seven years. What that has to do with what I said three years ago, I don’t know because I’m talking about my experiences as a fan having to deal with smart marks who throw a tantrum whenever they don’t get exactly what they want.

[@PuppetMaster1]

If anyone disagree with Al Snow on this one, then they feel called out.

[@SwitchSucksAss]

Yep

[@redrick8900]

The issue with it is he's describing the very loud, very small minority as if they are all wrestling fans. If you are a wrestling fan then he called you out.

[@PuppetMaster1]

@@redrick8900 Did you even watch the last part of this video? If no, then you're too hurtful to bear it, if yes, then you're the prime example of vocal minorty. as for calling "me" out, this is just you feeling hurt for stating fact that he did, and you're too sensitive for handing the truth, so nice try for insulting me back like 10 years old kid.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

​@@redrick8900Calling hypocrisy for hypocrisy? Wonder how that works? 😂

[@redrick8900]

@@PuppetMaster1 Guess again.

[@mxmoondoggie895]

At the end he basically described AEW in a nutshell. Made by a mark to cater to whiny marks and full of wrestlers who made money on being a living meme for whiny marks. I've always hated the term "smark" too as it implies somebody who is a mark for wrestling isn't one, you're not smartened up to the business because you read some websites with some insider notes. If you care who wins or loses in a fake fight and who holds a belt that's not won in a contest then you're a mark. Doesn't matter what you know or you think you know, the fact that you like a certain wrestler and want them to win makes you a mark. The end.

[@triggatrey2715]

Al snow is 100% right with everything he said in this video. But what he said doesn't apply to just wrestling fans. If you think about it it applies to fans of everything sports,movies,books,magazines etc.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Also the gaming industry

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

But he’s in the wrestling business, so he’s best suited to talk about WRESTLING. And he’s right. Deflection or whataboutism doesn’t change that.

[@redrick8900]

The difference is that most people have played sports or written things.

[@therealtgvenom]

Al Snow is 100% correct here. People back in his days and before watched wrestling to have a good time and be entertained by the CHARACTERS and storylines that they were watching. Nowadays these fans have made wrestling look so corny by overrating these dull, boring and dorky "technical wrestlers" with no characters. The fans that Al Snow is talking about are these weirdos that think that goofy Asuka woman is a real life fighter beating up a bunch of people in a bar/nightclub all by herself like it's Streets of Rage just because she does kicks and rest holds. These fans today are so toxic that they would dox your personal information and threaten to kill you or your family for simply not liking The Miz. Look at how they reacted when Roman Reigns won that Royal Rumble, or when Goldberg won the belt a few years back. These cannot be the same fans that were Hulkamaniacs or were wearing nWo or Austin 3:16 shirts back in the days. It just cannot be.

[@naughtiusmaximus1811]

One Mouth, Two Ears

[@aaronlecklider1378]

I love Al. He is smart and now an amazing buisness school owner. He's 100% right that fans are the issue, not completely the buisness. WWE has killed Kayfabe with social media and more. I've worked with independent owners and seeing the fans boo just because it's not what "they" want. Its like ffs enjoy the show.

[@hellzbellz123]

But what if i truly did not enjoy it? Cant i boo? What about booing the bad guys?

[@jeniffer9248]

A bit harsh blaming the WWE for kayfabe it was broken long before social media.

[@tonyjones1560]

I’m reminded of a MMA match I saw, years ago, between two fighters who were both excellent ground fighters. The match went to the mat and stayed there. The boos from the crowd were deafening. There were chants of “Boring! Boring!” A lot of these fans consider themselves “experts” on the sport, might even train themselves, but what they really wanted was to see was a highlight reel boxing match. The referee had to stand them up a few times because the fight kept going to the ground…for MORE booing. I was stunned by the ignorance. I’m far from an expert (I wrestled in high school and graduated from there in 1981 so we know what’s up LOL), but there’s a lot to see in a ground match…if you know how to look. Great comment 🫡🎖️

[@tonyjones1560]

@@hellzbellz123Booing the bad guys was half the fun back in the day. In fact, my dad used to “vet” the show cards to gauge the potential for a riot before he’d take me to a show or let me go. Back in the 1970s and before, depending on who was wrestling and what happened during a match, there was a chance something would kick off… Fortunately, we never had a problem.

[@redrick8900]

Kayfabe died in like the 60's.

[@twiztidlestat]

This is true for every single Fandom. The "smark" fans ruins it for everyone

[@DrMambo21]

RT Podcast brought me here and holy crap he is absolutely correct

[@zachary_attackery]

AEW caters exclusively to the people he's describing

[@redrick8900]

AEW caters to people that want to be entertained.

[@zachary_attackery]

@@redrick8900 your the type of guy that chants "HOLY SHIT! HOLY SHIT!" after watching someone jump off the top of a cage into a group of wrestlers who are huddle together and waiting for him to jump on them

[@redrick8900]

@@zachary_attackery I've never chanted at a pro wrestling show. I've cheered. I've booed. I've warned people that they were getting ready to kill a child, but I've never chanted. Also, I've seen the spot you are talking about like 20 times in WWE. They did it at least three times at the last survivor series. I never saw it in AEW. I did just watch Sammy Guevara jump off a lighting rig some 20 feet and land on nobody. That was impressive.

[@abohsukampret]

He sums it up perfectly. Knowledge = Information + Experience.

[@josephpeeler5434]

Yep. Info without practical application is mental masterbation.

[@adamlindsey7591]

Al snow is correct. being "smart" while adding a dimension that makes it more interesting i can say its ruined it to the point where its no longer as fun as it used to be. i stopped watching wrestling by very early 2000s and had grew up watching it. 10-15 years later i had this feeling the wrestling audience had changed. it was mostly a blue collar, rual and a bit of mainstream sportsfans before. what i saw was that wrestling had become an branch of nerd,sci-fan con culture..nothing wrong with that but thats what i observed.

[@teresworrell7973]

Like al snow said they'll still watch no matter what and thats the funny part

[@princeekeson12]

Al Snow would make a great pro wrestling historian. He needs his own podcast. Who would have thought that the man with the mannequin head would have more brains than most. PS, it was great seeing him and taking a picture with him when he did a Worcester house showing years back.

[@Psychology]

"But they'll still watch it" Not true. I no longer watch WWE and according to the ratings many others no longer do as well.

[@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch]

Then it doesn't apply to you then and thanks for proving al snow's point.

[@Psychology]

@@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch How does that prove his point if i, along with millions of others, don't like the product and no longer watch it?

[@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch]

@@Psychology r/whoosh

[@WhatAboutall]

P.S., smart move re-uploading this clip, that tweet got a lot of activity, even though the soy boys who used it would shit if they knew what Al Snow's wrestling gimmick is.

[@mixhaelamikovich]

What does everybody want ? Lol

[@PlayerSalt]

On the bright side its not like he founded a small company built it up into a massively successful and loved community just to watch all the work destroyed by WarnerMedia

[@Scyllax]

This is similar to the way parents view schoolteachers and public education.

[@tonyjones1560]

🎯🎯🎯🎯 Yell this through a wall of Marshall amps so they can hear you in the back. So happens, my wife’s a teacher. Her stories are mind boggling and tragic…

[@81pdmatt]

The biggest issue is what he said at the end. The product is catered to these kind of fans. Its not pro wrestling any more its a play

[@TheSinlessAssassin]

“Opinion is the lowest form of human knowledge.” Man what a line…so true.

[@jack18888]

I can understand his perspective. There are still people in wrestling who hold the standard of Kayfabe. Its the nostalgia that makes older fans like myself keep up with it to see if maybe a spot comes up worth watching.

[@MrKevinEaddy]

John Noreck i went to an Indy show in Vegas... Its Vegas, of course I was drunk as a turd. They brought out the heel as a native american and he spoke cherokee and hated americans.. and I booed the guy, screamed you suck, but the dude totally got over as a Heel. Any ways, by midcard I had to relieve myself, and there was the heel.. He looked at me like “awww fuck, this mark” I told him he killed, and got over as a great heel. After that he was cool as fuck, and invited us to Phoenix for the next show, I guess we riled up the crowd... It was a great experience. Maybe because Al is used to the big time, he hates fans, but the Indy guys, the guys who are performing at a Rec Center in front of 40 people for $25 a night, they like fans

[@ComicBookGuy420]

@@MrKevinEaddy met Al at the 20 years of Hell tour he and Foley did He likes fans just fine, just not the assholes

[@redrick8900]

Not since New Jack died.

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

Great re-up. I think what's lost on some people is that even going back now and watching clips from the 80's or so, we think we see those days in a new light, but we don't really. The quality of the creative content, from writers, to bookers, to the wrestlers themselves was at a level that's not seen today, because of whom the business caters too, the toxic fans. Put another way, I don't give a shit if it's worked, go ahead and fool me, I'll allow my own suspension of disbelief. I don't need insanity and stupid story lines to do that.

[@ArvelleWhitaker]

All entertainment is damn near dead to me.

[@phillipwattsjr.4714]

I'm starting to feel this way myself. If having an opinion and talking to people with the same opinion makes you THE PROBLEM, and not "SHUTTING UP AND ENJOYING THE SHOW" makes you THE PROBLEM...then I don't know what to think anymore. Oh yes I do. I say, fuck anyone who feels that way. And can I say that the word TOXIC has become so OVERUSED?

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

@@phillipwattsjr.4714 Opinion is the lowest form of human knowledge

[@jirijulku1093]

Everybody can see that wrestling sucks today, that's not the fan's fault and the ratings reflect that.

[@muscleT92]

This is why i love al snow put the fans in their place

[@doleph1]

The latest Rooster Teeth podcast brought me here, and this deserves more exposure! Well said Al!

[@mqny76nj]

Even though I don't like Al Snow, he has a point. Wrestling fans are really fickle.

[@apocalypsepow]

Al Snow is brilliant

[@user-he8qx5nv7y]

He basically just described AEW

[@michaelmercury1297]

I feel him when he said he hates some of the fans .

[@AmAxel35]

It's funny how the know-it-all prick fans can be so vitriolic when stating their opinions on particular matches/shows yet someone like Brian Zane (Wrestling With Wregret) who has some form of true knowledge of the business, having been a worker himself, is very tame in his opinions on a match that he would rate low.

[@mitchellarlee8047]

Respect my guy al snow please

[@pizzahighfive2612]

Fuck internet society.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Blame DARPA, they invented the internet back then.

[@adn1785]

The thing I love about this extremely articulated explanation is that it can be applied to other situations that constantly occur other than fans of the wrestling world. He is also describing the goofy idiots who criticise movies and tv shows like Star Wars or Game Of Thrones. People who think they have knowledge of the process of writing and directing and even casting, and think that they can know how to do these things better. He is absolutely right, these people are so dumb. And I hate them too, because they ruin it for everybody who just simply wants to enjoy the art that has been made for them to enjoy.

[@arlichar11]

im 43, got into wwf wrestling as a young kid around 85' or so.. and was naive but it was entertaining, then saw wcw and georgia awa etc, and it was even better cause wasnt silly gimmicks, but then around 93 or the wwf product just turned to crap.. ive tried but just never could get into as much as used to...! its hard for me to understand who the current wwe fans are, they must be either kids or really pathetic or dumb adults, maybe some older guys who like wrestling and have no other options... cause if you watch any wrestling the crowd is so much diffrent, they are still, no excitement, they are just there! the product is crap, and you know its all a production, so how can you get into it ? like heenan explained the magic is gone, the suspension of disbelief is gone, and there is no heat anymore to create the energy of the fans, people say its no diffrent than watching movie, well i dont enjoy bad movies either... they at least used to make good event, now wrestling is the equivalent of a charlies angels full throttle or, nic cage wicker man, a parody of what wrestling was !

[@switchlite44]

Kind of interesting he says all this knowing the comments he made about Vince Russo. Vince Russo was a reason why wrestling was so entertaining these wrestling smarks just hate them because he didn't care about the industry like them he cared about kidding around and putting a good show

[@Ralph_Sandwich]

It's time to boycott professional wrestling

[@Fnoel98356]

I do a shorter one. How many people who never played or coached pro football said "What was Pete Carroll thinking throwing a pass on the 1 yard line when you have 3 time outs & it's 1st & goal & you have a great running back like Marshawn Lynch?"

[@pauld8790]

So why did he do it that's like a bad poker play going all-in with two three I never played poker tournament

[@jdbruiser]

Pfft. Americans and their "football".

[@redrick8900]

Pro football is not fundamentally different than other football.

[@redrick8900]

@@jdbruiser As if there was a version of football that isn't crap.

[@TheLarryburns84]

with the gimmicks he had, I'm genuinely surprised that he's so well spoken. I actually like hearing him talk

[@manusyabyasa]

thats why i prefer watching japan pro wrestling or lucha libre. i think toxic fandom mostly in america. in another country maybe just a few.

[@randallklemme6616]

I have said this for a few years. Just like video killed the radio star......the internet killed the wrestling business

[@mastershake6292]

Wrestling fans are majority of the reason why I don't watch anymore. These marks have basically ran casuals away from the product. And now it's just a boys club, circle jerk party where these emotional weirdos all drool over the same thing. And let's not forget how completely fickle they are. One minute they love you and "YOU DESERVE IT". The next minute you're a spotlight hog keeping talent down.

[@mitchrogers4217]

This is so spot on

[@BernieGolgo13]

Amen, Al Snow

[@tonycortez2007]

Al Snow Is 1'000% Correct. I Can't Stand Wrestling Fans These Days.

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

I disagree with Snow. Familiarity breeds contempt is just a saying which is meaningless without context. By that logic, Hulk Hogan must really fucking despise pro-wrestling now because he has seen it from the bottom to the top but that does not seem to be the case. We should like our parents much less than strangers on the street because we know more about our parents (on average). It's true that a fan will never have the kind of insider knowledge or the skills involved in actual performance like an actual wrestler but saying they cannot know or have an opinion on anything is blatantly false. Some things are pure conjecture, opinion, rumors and lies and others are not. Most astronomers have never been to space but they know things about space that astronauts will never bother to look up. Meanwhile astronauts also have some knowledge that astronomers never will have. There's the concept of "silent knowledge" which refers to knowledge and understanding that's hard to transmit to another person. Presumably a wrestler will have a lot of silent knowledge about the business that a fan will never have and obviously the wrestler will have seen things the fan will never access have to but when it comes to things that are a matter of public record a fan can know plenty.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they're all full of shit.

[@WorldsFairNYC]

You don’t have to be a chef to know the food tastes like shit.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Proving al snow's point. 😊

[@meatymatmart]

I started enjoying wrestling sooo much more once I stopped using wrestling forums over five years ago. Now I just watch and can enjoy what I like without wondering how to justify my opinion to other fans. As far as live shows go, I cheer faces and boo heels; just makes it more fun for me. Nothing wrong with cheering for whoever though, don't get me wrong.

[@misfitdanzig8152]

Al snow is right, he's spot on. I like to watch pro wrestling or sports entertainment and be surprised and entertained. No wonder alot fans say wrestling sucks now and blah blah because they read the dirt sheets and spoilers or just watch clips...

[@gx1tar1er]

Pretty much described Dave Meltzer + his fans & every promotion who catered to him.

[@saveus228]

sadly Al is right and alot of wrestlers are no smarter or knowledgeable than the toxic fans that's why they constantly break kayfabe and make wrestling unwatchable for the majority of casual fans that Al is talking about

[@Janspeed1976]

Where's Head? Is this Al's opinion, or Head's?

[@tonyjones1560]

“Opinion is the lowest form of human knowledge.” That is PROFOUND on several levels. I’m old enough to remember Jack Briscoe as NWA champion and saw Superstar Graham win (cheat) the WWWF title from Bruno Sammartino. I’ve come to believe that the loss of “kayfabe” took a lot of the…magic?…out of wrestling even though I’m still a fan. But even after all these years, and all I’ve seen and read I don’t kid myself that I “know” a business I’ve never worked in. It’d be a great thing if the false experts would just sit down and shut up…

[@Pedro_Kantor]

I think the fans are mostly ignored hence why the majority of WWE arenas are tarped.

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

Wrestling fans are the shits, as Ole' Anderson would say.

[@fightfiendmiggs7473]

I get what Al is saying here and I do legit agree. But how can fans voice their opinion then? I'm sure he's not implying that wrestling fans simply can't or shouldn't spout their opinions. I mean, lets be real, there's no way every single fan will be able to gain the experience of actual wrestlers. I understand not spouting out uninformed opinions, but the information fans get online and in other outlets is the only info they have. They can't all become pro wrestlers to be able to say, okay now I have the information AND the experience, now I have the right to spout my opinion.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Why do you think Al Snow didn't show up one time in WWE? WWE caters to the causal fans and takes their feedbacks some of the time to favor their idols but you can't please everyone.

[@yock889]

5star match Snow vs Big Bossman in the Kennel from hell match!! look it up!! Hahahahaha

[@littlehobo261]

Al Snow the philosopher

[@MB-oc1nw]

jobber

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

He's that willing.

[@Highrollinhunter]

Deathmatch wrestling fans are the worst of the worst I almost quit watching wrestling in general because of them

[@dachicagoan8185]

This problem is a lot more widespread than wrestling. It has infected the movie industry. Casting directors only care about what will cause the least social media backlash.

[@dennisporter-avis7576]

He is right pro wrestling fans made me hate pro wrestling legit I hate it- familiarity breeds contempt

[@8889-l9x]

damn idk how this relates to burnie burns but im sad

[@mr2perfect]

Just described smarks

[@ews6724]

Lace up some boots smarks

[@randyjohnson7734]

I thought that was quite well said particularly opinion/information,experience,&knowledge and contempt.That wrestling bubble...the general audience doesn't care or watch KZbin after every little occurrence and has no desire too...then add guys who many can't do much else at this point recognizing the potential profit in podcasts etc,&many of which I feel contribute to this type of fan & the contempt...or cater to...basic fundamental truth perhaps is that computers and global or even nationwide internet access has changed wrestling and done grievous harm...of course,that's my..."opinion"...in any event, well said by Al Snow

[@NightcapLover]

Al is so clued up and he knows the drill 👍🇬🇧👍🇬🇧

[@chrischar9428]

Then entertain me. But if you hate the customers then you don't need my money

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Lol, that's not what Al Snow is saying at all.