SHOCKING Twist in ADOR vs. NewJeans Contract Termination Dispute 👀 ADOR GATE || The Haniverse

[@nancyk8153]

NewJeans are not fighting for their group, they are fighting for MHJ. It's just sad to see them tank their careers for someone that is using them as her shield for all legal allegations.

[@venusluv-i1v]

HYBE is not innocent.

[@KentPaul-OT7]

​@@venusluv-i1v That's true but nor MHJ is innocent. As an artist they should have not meddled into this war of corporate.

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

@@venusluv-i1v nobody said that

[@trangbui4377]

@@venusluv-i1v yeah but the roost cause of this whole fiasco is MHJ planning to back stab HYBE and take away Ador

[@bettyjackson5944]

When they grow up, they will realize that their beloved CEO had been using them.

[@devinewave]

MHJ is both smart and heartless for turning HYBE vs. MHJ to ADOR vs. NewJeans. The general public almost forget about the original feud

[@TheHaniverse]

THIS!!!!!!! Honestly, this is one of the main reasons why I didn't want to cover the whole audit situation with Hanni, it is SO besides the point :/ Unfortunately NJs have made their own spin-off drama now, and the ratings are much higher since they're actual celebrities - meanwhile MHJ is burning down the studio in the background.

[@entropyawylli24]

I think i read somewhere that MHJ have said in some of her many media appearances, that "she loves NJ, but she lves herself more"...something like that... hmm

[@MHM6081]

I think MHJ wrote this letter. It stated that Ador decided to sue them "again." But this was their first lawsuit.

[@lemonaidebey6190]

Yep

[@TheHaniverse]

Not a doubt in my mind.

[@darkcheron]

So just to summarize: NewJeans worded their demands as all or nothing. 1. An official apology from Ador/Hybe -Nonsense 2. Revealing identities of individuals from bullying cases and whoever said they want to abandon NJ. -The court will not allow another form of injustice to happen. NewJeans basically wants to name and shame the manager without due process. The judge will not agree with this by breaking another law. 3. Pursue civil and criminal actions against them and anyone trying to embezzle from them, and give NJ an audit report of all of these people. -It's MHJ who is being investigated for embezzlement 4. Remove of trainee videos published without their consent. -It wasn't HYBE/ADOR who released the published video. They already requested the publications to take it down. It's not up to HYBE/ADOR to scrub it off of the internet. 5. Assess damages done to them from their activities being put on hiatus. -They were not put on hiatus. The fact that they are still attending the activities laid out to them saying they are doing it against their will counters this claim. 6. Resolve issues with the MV director. -This director as well as #7 MinHiJin or any other staff are inconsequential. No contract will ever state that there are permanend management figures that will be provided. The court also has no control over as to how a corporation would handle their management/staffing. It's a matter that is in full control by the board. Any kind of employee will not have a say on this. 7. Reinstate of mhj as ceo- See #6. So basically, they are screwed. They screwed themselves. Full stop.

[@sisisworld]

About 2: to the eyes of Korean Law NJ is even higher in hierarchy than the manager who supposedly committed bullying. This definitely will not going their way.

[@너갖고싶다]

와!!!요약 짱

[@eileencritchley4630]

Correct on every point.

[@joyeetaghosh2209]

Who leaked the videos which source

[@sunmiswashingmachine]

​@@joyeetaghosh2209source, those materials were from source music they were their trainees before mhj took them to ador

[@yonnie11594]

I need them to give us a copy of their contract and tell us exactly where ador violated it. I’m tired of all the talk about their feelings being hurt.

[@TheHaniverse]

Literally this! And this is what lawyers in Korea have been saying, you can't terminate a contract because you 'don't like it anymore' - there has to be legal evidence.

[@2Bad4Youu]

Recognising that no K-pop company, including HYBE, is a flawless, is a sign of maturity that in rare in K-pop these days. Could be because fandoms are becoming younger, who knows. However, recent controversies highlight how HYBE and its artists have been unfairly targeted, while the true offenders, like MHJ, have histories of arrogance and problematic behaviour. Yet, her fans, "Bunnies," and some media outlets continue to push a hate agenda against HYBE to distract from their own wrongdoings. Yes, other HYBE girl groups have faced lip-syncing accusations, and it’s true. But pretending NewJeans doesn’t do the same is dishonest. Lip-syncing isn’t unique to any group-it’s about context. Idols are human; they fall ill, endure grueling schedules, and face constant travel. Demanding perfection at all times is unrealistic. The hypocrisy becomes even starker when considering the relentless harassment other groups have endured from Bunnies this year. Despite this, none of these idols have played the victim card or accused others of bullying. They’ve handled the hate with grace and maturity. In contrast, the “victim” in question has repeatedly leaned into a victim narrative instead of addressing matters with dignity or accountability. Where is the evidence of HYBE’s alleged bullying? It remains nonexistent, yet the accusations persist. Despite clear evidence of over-entitlement and questionable behaviour, Bunnies continue to paint NewJeans as innocent victims. Instead of blindly defending them, it’s time to question the power dynamics at play. What tactics does MHJ use to keep her idols in line? Protecting someone with a history of harm isn’t just naive-it’s dangerous. This isn’t about siding with a big corporation; it’s about standing for truth and accountability. Notably, Bunnies and pro-MHJ platforms go silent whenever new evidence exposes her misconduct, letting her lawsuits take over headlines to shift focus. Yet, when HYBE faces criticism, these same voices flood social media with anti-HYBE rhetoric. The double standards and manipulation are glaring. The truth will eventually prevail. MHJ must face the consequences of her actions. Her negative influence on K-pop has gone on long enough. It’s time for accountability. Enough is enough.

[@maviszer]

well said

[@vols_season]

@@maviszerwow nicely done

[@Wilwyn22]

Kudos! Very well said. Might I just add that I believe MHJ likes to keep the pot boiling. Even negative comments, stories, or articles keep her in the spotlight and I think she is enjoying her time in the sun.😊😮

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you, and I appreciate how thorough and thought-out your comment is! Your opening is something I've tried to make clear from the beginning, I am not pro-HYBE or ADOR, a company is just that, a company, and will always have flaws. However in this situation, we have to look at the evidence that has been provided to us and make objective judgements, and my better judgement is telling me that MHJ is the rotten core of this entire issue. I hope justice really does catch up to her in the end.

[@jmags025]

This is on point! Their fans, Bunnies, actually when faced with new evidence or anything that goes against NJ, they always deflecting and state that "so it's ok for Kpop idols to endure bullying?!"

[@maggie198333]

08:37 NJ was not ignored by other company. It’s not their claim either. NJ claimed Illit’s manager said to Illit members to “ignore her”. There is no concrete evidence of that besides Hanni’s own testimony.

[@scanspeak00]

No evidence because ADOR deliberately erased the footage.

[@nuhkyah23]

They are trying to paint a picture that they are being isolated / ostracized due to being ignored. But one person telling someone to ignore you on a single day in a brief moment cannot be interpreted as the whole company shunning them as I've seen many do. There just isn't evidence of that.

[@troll1321]

They did make Belift be the one to search for evidence though so that is like a "Hybe what are you doing moment". Like why would you have the accused investigate themselves? A 3rd party should have handled the investigation.

[@lemonaidebey6190]

​@@troll1321 no hybe and ador's Kim Joyoung who wasn't CEO then (mhj mysteriously MIA) looked at the footage too. Hanni early on by herself too. Hanni's parents didn't accept it. Hanni and njs parents wanted to also INTERROGATE belift managers.... In August mhj coming out of hiding or slacking off like hybe accused her in a Sept. statement, claimed there has to be extra footage and then Hanni n njs parents agreed to that. They all saw the footage again together in August. By August the security company deleted most of the footage. Hybe had the one interaction they found saved. To me it seems njs and their parents are just following mhj like they have been this whole year. Maybe the incident is not even real and mhj instructed them to cause trouble

[@troll1321]

@@lemonaidebey6190 But that doesn't refute what I said. From the beginning Hybe wasn't the one who searched for the video footage. Hybe had Belift Labs search for the videos. This is the single thing everyone on both sides can agree on. Every single youtuber I've watched has said Belift did the video searching and even the NJS mothers confirmed it in the interview. This is my only ick with this entire situation. Why would you have Belift labs search for video evidence and not Hybe the 3rd party entity.

[@4niasomnia573]

Honestly, the saddest thing about this is seeing the difference between how New Jeans are being treated by kstans and how KG is being treated. Being allegedly told to be ignored by a manager of a group that MHJ allegedly falsely called out is “mistreatment” and “bullying.” Meanwhile, the actual horrific crap that KG allegedly has receipts for (that she’s actually promising to show in court if they don’t settle) is “normal for the industry.” Ador, so far, hasn’t actually shown themselves to be inhumane. JYPE USA HAS. Ador has more than enough evidence for material breaches if the contract is still considered valid. Yet, them even attempting to verify the validity of the contract instead of taking them for all they’re worth shows that they’re trying to remedy whatever “mistreatment” NJ may have experienced.

[@TheHaniverse]

I keep hearing about the KG situation, what is actually happening there? :c And yes, I hate that NJs whining about this stupid stuff is taking away attention from actual serious cases and potentially making it harder for real victims to speak up in future :/

[@4niasomnia573]

@ she sued JYPE USA to get out of her VCHA contract. In the lawsuit, she lists out some pretty horrific abuses that (allegedly) break California’s labor and child labor laws. Conditions that led to a member attempting, being forced to practice the same dance step for so long that she developed injuries without being given a chance to heal, working excessively long days as a minor, some of the members developing eating disorders because of the pressure to stay thin… that’s obviously the briefest overview of the lawsuit and there is a lot more detailed in it. When JYPE USA came out basically saying nuh-uh this isn’t true, KG said that she and her lawyers have receipts.

[@jayneculver1542]

They proved themselves wrong, one day they say they’re quitting, the next they’re off on a scheduled appearance, all arranged by the agency. If they weren’t being looked after their travel and security would’ve been cancelled.

[@TheHaniverse]

Exactly this! Also NJs know they can't not go to the schedules, because if (ie when) the contract is proven valid, ADOR could sue for misconduct for all the schedules they didn't fulfil.

[@ShiShi429]

I have a lot of thoughts on this, but one thing I don't see people point out is: Why was Hani on that floor when they have section for hair and makeup just for Newjeans? The manager probably saw her hanging out on a floor she's usually not on since they are isolated by the CEO at the time as an intimidation or provocation attempt. I also wouldn't be surprised if MHJ put her up to it, and then set the wheels in motion to use it later. I don't know if the manager actually said "Ignore her" because Hani's grasp on Korean is not great. But even if they did, they work for another label, not ADOR. Then Hani and the others have been refusing to attend mediation meetings. This looks bad to me. Newjeans might end up getting in serious legal trouble, because they keep implicating themselves in MHJ's schemes of tampering and other illegal actions. They opened themselves up for ADOR to disclose the situation with staff loyal to MHJ breaking protocols and trying to get rid of incriminating evidence on NJ's behalf. Then Dispatch keeps warning their side: "Continue playing with us and the public's trust, we haven't dropped the atomic bomb, but we will if we have to." Also, if anyone knows the media well enough, there are implications behind Dispatch bringing up MHJ's willingness to use her cookies and shamanism to get what she wants. Then remember the SH case with the ADOR employee, MHJ expected the employee to do something different than reporting what the higher-up did to her. Honestly, I do feel like Newjeans has been mistreated and abused, but not by HYBE or ADOR 2.0, but Min Hee Jin. Something is seriously wrong with this picture. I am going to be real with you. I have never seen an idol group's fandom play an integral part in the destruction of said group.

[@anneverwey1714]

One wonders if Hani, being somewhere where she didn’t need to be, didn’t say said something first to provoke a “ignore her” it’s not generally something you say randomly for no reason.

[@pamelakrause9311]

I would say it is a completely justified response to protect the Illit members, to a girl of a group that incited their fandom to bully these young girls, to the point that one of the young Illit members.

[@Walklikeaduck111]

Yes, it could have been a provocation when mhj sent hanni snooping around the other groups, and a protective gesture from illit manager to avoid trouble.

[@TheHaniverse]

Don't quote me on this because I'm not sure, but I saw somewhere that HYBE does have a communal sort of beauty room where all the idols can get hair and makeup done, and it was outside there that this happened? Like I said, I'm not entirely sure. I do agree with you though, making all this fuss about being ignored and now being the one ignoring the literal company you work with trying to compromise you is so hypocritical. I think it's because they want to keep the despite public, they don't want to give ADOR the opportunity to settle things behind closed doors. Also I LOVE the observation you made regarding the dispatch drop - would it be okay to use that in my video going over the dispatch evidence? 👀 (I can shout you out or keep you anonymous, whichever you'd like!) And I agree 1000000%, NJs are victims of MHJ, I've been saying this from day one, she is the one who brought them into all of this, and yes, bunnies are both NJs greatest potential allies and weaknesses - if this was one of my boys, I'd be begging them everyday to wake up.

[@kanohane]

​@@TheHaniverseillit was out of country on the date Hanni claimed the event happened...so...

[@eileencritchley4630]

The CEO of Davolink is fumming as MHJ made his company stock drop when she lied to the press and that's why he removed the 2 new board members off the board. It's no wonder he went to Dispatch with all the facts and gave his interview to Dispatch.

[@jonisoriano5792]

@@eileencritchley4630 she knows the davolink debacle will sink her but wasn’t shy about commenting on it publicly I found that interesting…like she was signaling publicly that there has been no deals made yet…now everyone knows in the industry that she is still available

[@Qrztuvwxyz1]

34:29 NewJeans felt the need to say they're still united because the Dispatch article hinted that a member's father leaked information to Dispatch. Therefore people think one of the members is going to turn on them.

[@TheHaniverse]

That's exactly what I thought too! If their alliance breaks it would put them at an even bigger disadvantage 💀

[@Sherluck93]

I wouldn't put it past them to bully each other into staying together.

[@ArmantoAlex13]

I don’t think Ador is an empty shell without MHJeans; I’ve heard they have a boy group they’re working towards debut; but even if Ador is ‘empty’ they can take on trainees.

[@entropyawylli24]

Yeah..the can just continue..

[@justho3350]

I mean they are still under the hybe umbrella so they are going to use their resources to promote the hell out of the group. There are many young trainees who would go through the "mistreatment" these girls get just to get a fraction of the wealth and luxury these girls had.

[@bluesidecollection]

Yep, and they probably also have some girl trainees they can get from other hybe companies

[@rory.boryalis]

Even without NewJeans, they’d have investors who would make sure that the demise of NewJeans could not happen again. Stricter contracts, no 14-Days to rectify, and going back to old-day procedures because these things didn’t happen unless the company actually did something wrong

[@ArmantoAlex13]

@ They’re going to be hard pressed finding investors; they’re insolent, rebellious and are likely to do something like this again - at least they will fear it. Min Hee Jeans won’t be doing anything for a long time anyway, because they will not be allowed to work outside of Ador. If they drag this out, they could be facing 3-5 years of litigation while they’re unable to do anything…and rightly so.

[@MaggieBesas]

It was a genius moved of ADOR against NJ

[@theo67-ft3yx]

If the girls have been "sitting on something ground-breaking", then it should have been part of their 14-day demands. Otherwise, they haven't provided Ador with an opportunity to resolve the issue, which is a requirement for terminating the contract. They've shown everything they have, and it's nothing.

[@MeninaIsCrazy2]

Plus they keep saying they have AND that they will release their evidence. At their last press conference they said something about their lawyers presenting it the next day and we STILL have crickets from them. 😂

[@mayaradantas5763]

@@MeninaIsCrazy2At the same time they said multiple times by now that the reason for termination was ador no “correcting” the breaches of the contract and that’s what the court will rule about it as main claim. Any other issue not revealed yet or is a minor secondary claim or it’s completely irrelevant for termination. Using MHJ own words: they are just doing media play 😂

[@TheHaniverse]

Couldn't agree more and it's getting annoying listening to them repeat the same meaningless statements - all those words to say so little.

[@sasha2401]

Hani allegations are completely irrelevant if she doesn't have any proof. And it's her word against a group of people so I don't even understand why some people are holding onto this moot point.

[@TheHaniverse]

Exactly 🙃 like even the National Assembly said it was a non-issue

[@Brilenciaga]

Ive been saying that mhj getting the court to rule that hybe and ador are separate screwed over njs because njs constantly are blaming hybe and bringing up hybe. And bunniez, bless their hearts, will not believe me when i say that whatever grievances njs have with hybe are irrelevant, their issues with ador are the only ones that matter. “Hybe owns ador therefore ador and hybe are the same thing” no, they are not and bunniez can thank mhj for that

[@TheHaniverse]

Couldn't agree more! And honestly, imo MHJ never cared about the outcomes for NJs in the first place, she's been money hungry since the beginning so that distinction messing with NJs' case was never a concern for her :/

[@bookaholic4520]

This is the first commentary i seen that has been very respectful to the situation as a whole.

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you! 😭 I do get emotional at points because I'm just frustrated, but I do want the best for everyone (except MHJ maybe, karma can get her 🤧)

[@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult]

Just so you know the girls have dropped the name NJ and are using their own names, this is a violation of the contract

[@Mal.victory]

The contract is terminating

[@entropyawylli24]

​@@Mal.victoryit is not...yet

[@sisisworld]

​NJ fans/support need to go to law classes ​@@Mal.victorythe contract CAN'T be terminated unilaterally jus because the NJ girls said so. They (or Ador) need to open lawsuit for it. 😂😂😂

[@yomarysanchez1808]

@@Mal.victory they have to filed a lawsuit first to terminate.

[@antoinetteyoung6466]

@Mal.victory The Contract is not terminated where did you get that nonsense from? They cant just terminate their contract because the want to, Nj contract is in effect until 2029 if they want to leave they are going to have to pay Hybe the penatlty fee.

[@geekyreader34]

NJ IS A DETRIMENT TO OTHER ARTISTS IN THAT HYBE BUILDING. they have a bad attitude, are full of themselves and they think they are so important they should be able to get their way. Throwing temper tantrums in a business is not how u do things

[@TheHaniverse]

And ironically that's why they feel isolated. Other artists know they are bad news so they're keeping their distance, but NJs will use that as an excuse to claim they're being bullied and excluded.

[@brunakarolinaoliveirasil-ki8yc]

@@TheHaniverse idk why u're including "artists" aka idols in here when since the beggining all NJ's been focusing/talking about is HYBE'S STAFF creating a hostile environment for them and that incident with the manager to the point she even heard him/her speaking just made things clear, just like it's the pr guy who made an 7min call to correct an info while downplaing nj's sucess at the same time or the midia clearlly releasing articles with an agenda against NJ(hybe's mediaplay), so suming up it doesn't matter if u wanna blame the girls bc other groups/idols got hated( when NJ is being dehumanized by hybe stans inserting themselves into this issue is getting more hate with armies leading them) bc every gp is getting hate, but u can't lie and act like NJ ever made it about any idols, they always focused on hybe's staff and higher ups!

[@Qrztuvwxyz1]

@@TheHaniversecan they really say they feel isolated though when JungKook publicly favored them and potentially left ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM to possibly feel isolated?

[@Qrztuvwxyz1]

@@brunakarolinaoliveirasil-ki8ycNJ has actually thrown in ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM by accusing HYBE of favoring both girl groups. You can try to claim NJ has made it about staff, but no.. they also put a target on both girl groups and effectively harm their growth opportunities in Korea. Like, their freaking moms accused ILLIT of bullying one of the members because ILLIT said they liked kalgusku.

[@brunakarolinaoliveirasil-ki8yc]

@@Qrztuvwxyz1 they NEVER talked or made their focus talking about idols, so how can u bring up JK or any idol in here? U didn't read my reply at all?

[@allelitememesaem3916]

ADOR would not be as bad of a place for them to be if they didn't do all of this in the first place. I actually think they knew from jump that they weren't staying if Min Heejin couldn't be CEO so they acted under the impression of "well, we're not going to be here much longer anyway so it doesn't matter." It's going to be really awkward when they walk back in that building like "hey... hey... how yall doing" 😭

[@ChelseaSen]

That would be funny to see. They didn't seem to have many "friends" at Hybe because Mama Roach kept them isolated. They should be removed from the 16th floor though, as BTS are coming back in June and need to be in their rightful place 😂

[@KassiieKatt]

@@ChelseaSenMAMA ROACH IM DEADDDD

[@JolaJ-w9d]

​@@ChelseaSen16 piętro proszę zdezyfekowac po tych nieznośnych pannicach.

[@anneverwey1714]

They really will be ignored then, who would dare say anything to them, even a ‘hello’ would be risky

[@AskMe-fl2sm]

U know teenagers usually have lot of ego & won’t listen if anyone correct them. I still remember how I won’t listen to my mom after doing something stupid bcz I don’t want to admit I did wrong. I don’t think nwjs ego gonna let them do right thing now unless adults around them forced them to point right path

[@nneichan9353]

NJs really would willingly return to ADOR if MHJ was back in charge. That ridiculous request is what this seems to hinge on.

[@TheHaniverse]

This is the thing, it's also crazy because ADOR isn't just one person, there is literally an entire staff there - them fixating on her being CEO is so counterintuitive, especially when she was already offered the head producer position (where she'd technically be in charge of their activities anyway) and turned it down.

[@Sues-ub4iv]

I find it interesting that outside partners value the relationship with Hybe being in their best interests and that attempts by other parties to go around existing contracts are being reported to Hybe directly. This happened with investors approached by mhj as well as the advertiser by nj via Ador employee to do a side deal. This should tell them something.

[@nuhkyah23]

Honestly the employee was dumb to think the advertiser wouldn't snitch to hybe. No one is gonna risk a major lawsuit or the opportunity to work with bts when they return. Money trumps emotion, this is business and that's what these girls need to learn.

[@jonisoriano5792]

This made me suspicious that other interactions were done possibly a couple of years before….during the honeymoon period with MHJ and Hybe. The employee seeking rogue advertising deals may have done these things before and they were just doing it again…remember that it’s been said over and over that Ador was very seperate from all the other companies and no one really knew what the company was doing….m sure there was some real sh.t going on….cleaned laptops are looking like some damning evidence that slipped through hybes fingers…

[@TheHaniverse]

I mean, considering they have some of the hottest kpop idols, getting on HYBE's bad side doesn't seem like a good idea. I think of how SM used to use their power to keep JYJ off TV by saying they're pull all their artists from any shows on any channels that broadcast the JYJ members - TV stations wanted their ratings, and brands/investors want HYBE clout.

[@TheHaniverse]

This is a great observation, especially when you consider the embezzlement case for the staff member they were paying as a freelancer to avoid sharing money with HYBE or something.

[@eileencritchley4630]

ADORE is NOT sueing NJ they are going to court to have their contract looked at so they can then go back to NJ and say the court says the contract is valid if you wish to leave pay up then get out or stay and lets continue to work together. No on is suing anyone it's ADORE asking the Judge to check the contract itself is all in order and there's nothing in it that illegal. An extremely smart move as they know the contract is not null and void and with this confirmed by the judge is the iron clad seal.

[@TheHaniverse]

That's exactly what I said in my video! :3 it's a smart tactic because they don't come across as aggressors!

[@jcsantos8431]

I liked them, specifically Hanni. But they have been sounding more and more ridiculous since their first video about their demands. No wonder people are now siding with the company. They will deeply regret this.

[@venusluv-i1v]

I think anyone that sides with a company is always on the wrong side of history.

[@Kororozinhouw]

@@venusluv-i1v seriously, you delusional fans are running out of ideas to protect these girls. You're not even trying to show any sort of argument anymore, you're just saying workers are always right with no reasoning at all.

[@TheHaniverse]

No agreeing with NJs for logical reasons is not the same as 'siding with the company' - if NJs are wrong, they're wrong, regardless of who the other party is.

[@TheHaniverse]

It's not about picking sides, it's about looking at the evidence and making a reasonable deduction. Or are you saying it's not possible for NJs to be wrong in any situation if the other party is a company...

[@venusluv-i1v]

@@TheHaniverse If you know the history of Korean labels you'll see that the patterns are consistent across the board. If this was years ago, this wouldn't even be an argument because Kpop stans back then knew. The ONLY reason people back HYBE is because they like BTS. But if you look at all idols and the colleagues that back up NJs its because they know how commonly messed up these companies can be. Not saying NJ can't be wrong about some things, but the energy is misaligned toward them, that's for sure.

[@marieharris6269]

Most of the noise by individuals that don't understand business, contracts laws or the music industry as a whole. A lot of emotions and unfortunately the out come for those girls career will likely not be good.

[@TheHaniverse]

No but seriously, sometimes it's okay to say you don't know lol

[@sophieOT7]

They have yet to provide any kind of solid proof to their claims of ADOR's mistreatment which has prompted them down this route. Between NJ themselves it's a she-say, she-say. How do you get out of a legally binding contract by just telling everyone oh i want out, but without filing any legal suit to terminate the contract? Even IF they can truly prove ADOR is at fault, that termination lawsuit still has to be filed. People dont just walk away from a legally binding contract willy nilly. If they can do that, then what is the meaning of the law? what is the meaning of a legally binding contract? With that sentiment in mind, nobody in their right mind would ever want to work with this girls anymore cos they have zero sense of responsibilities, no regard for authority and no regard for the law. this is a serious case of delulu if i ever see one. it's great that they are no longer using the NJ name cos they give the NJ brand such a bad reputation.

[@TheHaniverse]

Exactlyyyyyyyyy! This is what I was saying about wider implications, it would make the entire kpop industry unstable if legally binding contracts have no baring on an idol's ability to just walk out of a contract because something didn't suit their tastes. They're going to get a very rude awakening in court when they not only learn their contract is very much still valid, but that they're going to have to pay up if they really want out.

[@michaelmitchell7350]

Those girls will never be compliant and that's what scares me about ADORE keeping them active once the court validates the exclusive contract. NewJeans response was clearly written by their Drama Mama MHJ I really hope ADORE can get her on tampering charges.

[@entropyawylli24]

But they have already start to do performances on their own.... could be breach of contract of NJ...

[@TheHaniverse]

You could be right, but the difference is the perception! If the contract is validated by the court, NJs lose their justification to act out - if they continue to do so, ADOR will not look bad for suing them for the damages. If they want to mess up their lives, it's their choice at that point :/

[@entropyawylli24]

@@TheHaniverse And they have given good reasons to Ador to actually win if Ador sues them for breach of contract..

[@PersEndu]

I’m sorry but it’s funny they’re referencing the employee’s computer being confiscated as an example of how abusive the company is when it’s literally the company computer & they can collect it anytime they want bc it’s Ador’s property after all! 💀ofc Nj doesn’t even mention the reason why the computer is being confiscated which is bc the employee reached out to other companies to solicit corporate sponsorships for nj bypassing Ador. It’s likely these companies went directly to Ador to inform them of the employee’s tactics that lead to Ador doing the investigation of them.

[@brunakarolinaoliveirasil-ki8yc]

they said PERSONAL PHONES/COMPUTERS as well and hybe/ador didn't deny doing that

[@TheHaniverse]

HYBE didn't comment because it doesn't involve them. ADOR literally said it was their work computer and they only wanted it because the employee was literally BREAKING THE LAW - like do you not know how investigations work, you have to collect all evidence, and in Korea especially, they require people to collect their own evidence in non-federal crimes.

[@TheHaniverse]

All of this! Then they have the audacity to say ADOR is trying to mislead the public 💀💀💀

[@PersEndu]

@@TheHaniverse yes! these companies are not going to risk getting in trouble for breaking the law by bypassing Ador to offer nj brand ambassador deals. The court fines & public relations nightmare is simply not worth it, so ofc they have to inform Ador who is the legal company with rights over nj. Idk what these girls are doing (though we know who’s really behind this), but this is going to look really bad for them in the eyes of the law.

[@brunakarolinaoliveirasil-ki8yc]

@@TheHaniverse hybe do mediaplay since the day they had to make this public, u can't even hide the fact ure a company's shooter lol

[@ChanteKay]

I love how educated you are on this topic and how you aren’t just saying anything like some KZbinrs I’ve seen ❤ definitely subbed

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you for the compliment and the sub! 🥹💜🙏🏾 I try to make logical conclusions based on the evidence we have available to us 🤧

[@annanamoose9943]

What if NJ evidence of company mistrearment turns out to be MHJ text messages calling NJ members fat and saying they are not artists 😆😆

[@TheHaniverse]

Okay funny you mention this because a lawyer actually did say that! XD only difference is MHJ would be the one getting sued 😅 the whole ILLIT thing also happened when MHJ was still the CEO too!

[@okakaaa96]

35:53 their responses always has weird slips ups or word play like this which just feels like gaslighting. Like 22:21 they said "ador failed to assert theres no breach of contract"...like isnt that something THEY nj should be proving otherwise? Theyre the ones who wanted to terminate the contract, not ador. Ador is simply getting the court involved to prove its validity and nothing else, but they felt the need to bring such response os very telling.

[@TheHaniverse]

Exactly, like the whole statement just reads crazy lolol

[@Brilenciaga]

The other people newjeans should actually be mad at are their parents, especially if their parents are the ones who signed their contracts. The parents didn’t seem to try to take their daughters when they were living in a dorm with bugs but you want them now that they live in a luxury apartment? Not during all the usual trainee bs but now when they are being given opportunities that other idols and trainees can only dream about

[@TheHaniverse]

This!! I said this to a friend too, yes it sucks that idol trainees go through those kind of terrible situations and there should be measures in place to make sure that doesn't happen no matter how small a company is - but NJs are not sympathetic martyrs for that cause! They come off as entitled, selfish brats more than righteous fighters for the rights of all idols big and small. If anything what they're doing could have a worse effect on the industry by making it harder for idols who are actually abused by their companies.

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

Heres my thought as someone who is the same age as the same age as hanni: 1. Im a music major i dont know alot about contracts but i do know how business works 2. They breach contract first with ador when they did their very first confrence because they made a secret account without permission ,they weren't fighting new jeans they were still in court with min heejin 3. The media slander is absurd, since they are the ones who always speak out first to the media , they always make the first moves and ador NOT hybe just responds to their claims, also its the media people are allowed to have public opinions 4. Their original plan wasn't even the fight againt mistreatment in the company, it was them defending mhj and threatening hybe to give mhj her job back , im guessing that's were their damands within their 14 days , which makes their 14 days response invalid since the court already denied mhj request to get her seat back , and ador can't force belief manager to apologize, you can't force someone to apologize , and ador replied with a 20 page letter which they refused to accept because they deamed it as" insincere ", then they replied an hour before their press conference and told them that they replied too late 5. Hanni recently just caught being in contact with mhj and didnt danielle send a letter to mhj too , which they all denied being in contact with her 6. Also them still working under ador despite saying that they terminated their contracts is another law suit right there , ador is being very nice with them because if it was any other company they would have been kicked out or in court and probably blacklisted , also in the music industry having a co-worker who is defient without evidence is a very bad look , it could be hard for them trying to look for another company unless they try to make their own music , 7. If they would have took this to court when this first started they would have gotten out of the contract faster if they had proper evidence

[@MortenChef]

Contracts have Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA), by going public with media-conferences Nj violated the NDA.

[@TheHaniverse]

See, you get it, so why can't Hanni? 💀 you explained it all so well!

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

@@TheHaniverse also with number 7 , if their claims are true , which in this case both sides are just a he say she say thing, no one is giving proof or evidence right now , I'm pretty sure both sides have gathered evidence in private , but this is on the internet , so both sides could be lying as we speak , so it's word of mouth , but if new jeans are correct about their claims , like I said they could have just taken it to court , and if they are correct they wouldn't have to be avoiding penalty fees , they are avoiding court for a reason ,with contracts like these you always read through out your contract , also all lawyers don't touch in this part of the industry, like they could have hired a entertainment lawyer or something when this first happened, just so they could avoid things like this , or they already had some one explain this to them and just signed anyways because when you are close to your dreams , you don't really care at the moment especially if you are young , welp we won't know until the court has a say so

[@eileencritchley4630]

Laptops used for work belong to the company. You don't use private laptops for work as you have to have a 'paper trail) digital comes into that. A internal audit in any company can happened at any time for any reason and you have to comply with it legally. So of course the company needs access to the laptops as what they might be uploading to the Cloud might be something completely different to what's really going on.

[@TheHaniverse]

You think they would have learned this from the original audit back in April 😅

[@susanaagudelo1422]

What’s their plan if they do terminate the contract? Is MHJ starting her own company with her own capital? Bc I can’t imagine investors would be willing to work with MHJ and her hx of throwing investors under the bus, let alone that the artists have been shown to not respect contracts.

[@TheHaniverse]

Totally agree with you! I did talk about the options Min might have in my last video, but whether she'll take NJs with her is also up for debate!

[@rory.boryalis]

I think if the court case drags on, NewJeans will drag it along themselves until they can either prove ADOR is at fault beyond reasonable doubt or until the five years of their remaining contract is up and the court says “nothing we can do anymore, contract expired”

[@TheHaniverse]

Yeah but dragging it for 5 years absolutely won't benefit them, they will be irrelevant in that time and the industry would have out grown them, even their loyal fanbase would have moved on to other idols. Inactivity is basically death to an idol's career, plus all the bad press they'd be making by continuously dragging out the lawsuit that they keep losing. (And this is all assuming ADOR don't turn around and actually sue them at some point.)

[@TianaGamaSantos]

Nobody on New Jeans side is looking for their best interest to be honest. They just follow MHJ blindly and don't see they're pawns to her, they should have stayed out of the company politics and just work as artists. It's a shame but they tanked their carreers.

[@TheHaniverse]

This is what I've been saying, it's so sad they've put themselves in the crossfire and for what?

[@ItsMe14377]

This was a great video talking about this situation. I'm so sick of MHJ and NJ at this point. The way they have acted through out all of this has made me dislike them to the point that I can't even listen to their music anymore, which I used to love. They have become mini MHJ's and I'm so over it all that I kind of hope this DOES ruin their career like it seems like it is going to simply because after all of this, I never ever want to hear from them or MHJ ever again. They are toxic and kpop will be better off without them.

[@TheHaniverse]

While harsh, I totally get where you're coming from. I gave NJs the benefit of the doubt for as long as I could, but similar to you, I just get this bad feeling listening to their music now :/ as for MHJ, she can eat shit and wipe that smug smile off her face

[@coupstatu]

I used to feel bad "wanting" to see their downfall but they really brought this all upon themselves- acting all mighty, including themselves into the feud yet can't even prove any of their claims - all for mhj so i kinda wish all of this to go down, the truth to be revelead and everyone rejoicing when the boys get back

[@dixonng5894]

Fully agree that the artistes should just make the best of the remaining five years. Take every opportunity in this fruitful time with resources to make music and perform. Perhaps they need a bit of perspective taking on what they have ( resources, good pay, health), rather than what they are going to lose ( original creative director's concepts).

[@kidawesomeness123]

very well said

[@theo67-ft3yx]

How would NJ even be able to continue after they've disparaged Ador and Hybe, as well as the disrespect they've shown to the new Ador CEO. They're no longer trustworthy. I don't know how Ador can be expected to keep pumping money into this group when they've created this level of toxicity? They never had to start this nonsense. Really poor judgement, and their attitudes need serious adjustment.

[@Walklikeaduck111]

No coming back for these deceitful girls.

[@HailToTheMeep]

Saying a lot and loudly but saying nothing at all is ON BRAND for MHJ. Now we are seeing it with the girls. Once again the parents failed them the most here. MHJ owe the girls NOTHING. She has no duty of care. While their parents do. Shame on them.

[@triplethread]

No sure how you got on my algorithm but I love your voice and explanation. I never understood how the 5 members said the contract is awful when they had signed the contract that MHJ was apart of putting together as the CEO at the time of their signing. End of day it's money and immaturity, greed is the root of this saga drama. Love for this to end, it's worst than the 50/50 drama.

[@venusluv-i1v]

Wanting to be paid fairly is not greed.

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

@@venusluv-i1v paid fairly? she is the most paid female in the industry , what else she wants? the only person paid more than her in ador is nj

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you so much! 💜☺️ I'm glad you enjoyed the video! And I totally agree with you, MHJ is the one who made the contracts..

[@TheHaniverse]

Who said they weren't getting paid well? They didn't even say that, they said they want to leave because they're being 'mistreated'

[@venusluv-i1v]

@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv I'm talking about NJ. And they don't always get what you think they are getting. NJ ususlly has to split their income. Furthermore, the income does not match the treatment idols usually get. That's why so many idols are on NJ's side.

[@amieanna325]

This was worth the wait. Thanks for shedding light on this situation in a clear, concise manner.

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you so much for waiting, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! 🥹💜

[@TheeEarthQueen]

22:21 i need newjeans to tell us why a company would invest in a project to JUST get their investment back. What's the point of investing if you just want to make the money back, might as well not invest 💀 the point is to make more and more. Their story of "diminish our value" stems from HYBE clarifying their last cb's sales. They wanted HYBE to let the 1 million album sales in japan lie alone but since they clarified thatit was 40k while mhj told japanese distributors they would sell 150k is a loss Their comeback was NOT as successful as anticipated, it's a fact. I think they need new lawyers bc a good lawyer would tell them exclusive contracts are like marriage contracts if no fault divorces didn't exist. The party who wants to divorce needs to provide proof that there was fault so the marriage contract can be terminated. I just need mhj to sue belift for plagiarism but she's not going to bc she would lose. I need newjeans to sue ador or hybe but they're not going to bc they're going to lose. They have no grounds to sue hybe bc their contract is not with HYBE. Newjeans saying HYBE and ADOR are the same entity would mean MHJ did try to sabotage HYBE, which would contradict the court decision. ADOR was smart for asking for the confirmation of validity. Nobody is going to risk working with them bc they would be sued as soon as ADOR learned about it. And getting sued by ADOR basically means getting sued by HYBE. EDIT 6 HOURS AFTER THIS COMMENT: Not ADOR catching a manager scheduling activités for newjeans without notifying ADOR. Then the manager got caught (the brand probably told ADOR), formated their work laptop before turning it in, got caught again and admitted to it. Idk who told newjeans to mention that story bc they look very dumb rn

[@Qrztuvwxyz1]

I need NewJeans to understand that once they paid back their debt, ADOR started paying them per ADOR's contractual obligation to the group. That's how it works.

[@TheHaniverse]

Literally everything in this comment! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 the reality is they aren't making any decisive moves because they don't have any legal basis for their accusations, and they know they're going to lose.

[@Nu-SmZar]

I'm wondering if I'm the only one who's noticed that, since the Dispatch article, my algorithm no longer suggests videos about the nj vs Ador/Hybe anymore. I have to physically search for them.

[@TheHaniverse]

Oh interesting, you mean on YT or which platform?? 🤔

[@Nu-SmZar]

@@TheHaniverse I noticed it mostly on YT, but even on X I'm only seeing Tokki posts more often.

[@TheHaniverse]

@Nu-SmZar oh wow thats very interesting 🤔🤔🤔 i doubt they would have that much influence but media play is never out of the question is it

[@Gangstasix]

Thank you for your videos and takes on these topics in Korea. You give a unique perspective as a Westerner who lives in Korea. Thank you!

[@TheHaniverse]

I'm glad you're enjoying the content, thank you so much for watching ☺️🙏🏾💜

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

I honestly just wished that they went through this via the legal route from the beginning bc it might only work for them bc of who they are. A "regular" person won't be afforded this luxury. If they win this case then all other previous non-idol cases must be re-examined. Then this becomes another example of how the law bends in favor of the famous and or elite

[@TheHaniverse]

I agree with you, except there is no way NJs can win this case, that's exactly why they didn't go through the legal route, and this lawsuit from ADOR is just going to prove that.

[@kinetic3971]

Facts.

[@anechuu]

I think Ador's move eas mote as a reminder to the companies possibly signing contracts without Ador (employee already being investigated) could get sued, and the contract has not been legally terminated.

[@TheHaniverse]

Yes, this is exactly what I was saying! It basically gridlocks NJs, they either go to court to prove the contract is terminated or they stay trapped under the potential lawsuits from ADOR if they do anything independently!

[@mariamusa6631]

Can the bunnies just shake NJ up?? The fanbase could just voice up & tell them to snap out of the witch's spell. The shaman's pretty good.

[@TheHaniverse]

Honestly, MHJ drop the contact number, I'm tryna convince a bank owner to give me all his money 😂

[@allelitememesaem3916]

"Uploaded 6 minutes ago" Girl you blessed us at the right time 🙌

[@TheHaniverse]

It's 3am in Korea but I wanted to make somewhat good on the promise I couldn't keep 😭🙏🏾 hope yall enjoy, thank you for waiting 🥺💜

[@JolaJ-w9d]

​@@TheHaniversejuż jest 5 rano w.Korei.

[@Cosmos-d4h]

Thank you, great video

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😭🙏🏾💜💙

[@PinayYonsei]

Thank you for your excellent coverage. Also I love your TXT sweater.

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you for watching! ☺️💙 and thank you! I love this sweater, it needs a little steaming tho XD

[@MG322_88]

Best analysis I've seen yet!

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you! 😭🙏🏾 That truly means a lot, I'm still working on improving my commentary skills 🥹💜 I'm glad you enjoyed!

[@maramac42]

Thank you! This is so interesting. Why am I only finding you now???

[@AnonnosaurusRex]

i commented this on a different video about the situation, but ill paste it here too: In their most recent statement, I realized something worse about all of this. A. These girls reinforced the idea that they paid off their debt. It isn't the biggest deal, but for what I'm theorizing, it might be a big deal for them. I think the reason NWJNS genuinely believes they have ZERO penalty fees is because they believe their investment fee (cost of debut and training under HYBE/ADOR) is the penalty fee. They either think the investment debt they paid off is the penalty fee, or, they think they will only get a penalty fee if they don't pay the investment debt. What they fail to realize is that the penalty fee is a fee that states the estimated revenue garnered over 7 years (July 2022--July 2029) will be paid if the contract is terminated early. So, if NWJNS is estimated to make 100M over the course of 7 years, that's what they're paying as a penalty fee. (100M isnt real number for this btw) B, These girls aren't prepped for court at all. They couldn't answer the bare bones of questions legally that reporters threw at them--and they are easy questions! Easy questions for anyone who did a little bit of legal prep. I don't think NWJNS thought ADOR would actually sue them or go after them legally. In fact, I think they've fucked themselves worse. NWJNS claimed their contract was terminated which would potentially force ADOR to file an injunction saying it wasn't terminated--burden of proof would be on ADOR. However, NWJNS and their legal team predicted or expected wrongly. Instead of filing an injunction, ADOR filed a suit to ask the COURT to decide if the contract was terminated. Because NWJNS are the ones claiming the contract is terminated, they have the burden of proving the contract is in fact terminated on proper legal grounds, or, prove ADOR violated it and mistreated them. Not only will this cost a lot of funds for them in the long run, if they have no evidence and lose the case, they're really racking up debt. Besides that, if they have no evidence, NWJNS would be sitting in court basically proving they lied and violated their own contract. So if they win, they get to leave, but if they don't, they basically prove in court that they weren't mistreated and violated their contract due to a lack of evidence. Then, they'll potentially be stuck between paying the penalty fee if they really want to leave, or they go back to ADOR. However, the backlash they will receive from going back to ADOR might be career ending. They've garnered hundreds of thousands of fans to believe they are being mistreated, are leaving the company, and want their CEO back. Going back to the company would do nothing but show that they lied (from an outsider's perspective), sent fans and others on a wild goose chase, and did all of this for nothing. They will be looked at as spoiled, lying brats, who are no-good hypocrites if this were to happen. They have somehow managed to have shot themselves in both feet and knees. TLDR: NewJeans have somehow tarred and feathered themselves even worse than before and are hostage in a legal sense.

[@Sherluck93]

Hi Han! Good to see you again and glad that you're back! Smart commentary, as usual. Thank you! 👋

[@LadyLawyerG]

The is case of FA FO for Members of New Jeans & MHJ. They are becoming pariahs in the industry, which is sad😢

[@TheHaniverse]

MHJ deserves what she gets, but NJs can still come back from this if they just wake up 😭

[@Brilenciaga]

I just hate how toxic njs fans have become, its like if you don’t blindly follow njs or mhj then you are now a company stan. No😂 i just know how to think for myself and I don’t jusr follow everything my faves say or do. Njs themselves said they would produce evidence to the public in their “secret” livestream and they still haven’t shown anything. Like i love njs, literally my top artist on spotify this year(ironically magnetic was my top song😂) and i love watching their yt videos and fans videos but I can still tell right from wrong. Im not even saying that ador and hybe might be doing some bs behind the scenes but they aren’t complaining about real bs, they’re complaining about petty bs and the other things are issues that the company literally can’t solve themselves

[@TheHaniverse]

THANK YOU 😭 like I have my own gripes with HYBE, and ultimately, it's a company so I'm not expecting them not to be shady or something - but in THIS situation it is so painfully obvious that MHJ is the main person to blame and now NJs are ruining their own reputation, like it's just the only logical conclusion...

[@Brilenciaga]

@@TheHaniverselike a nj fan in another comment section talking about “you won’t say it to my face”😂😂😂 its wild to to be that mad over kpop but i said if she wanna meet lets meet😂😂

[@Yookay15]

Cant wait for the dispatch vid

[@TheHaniverse]

In the works 💪🏾😤 it just links to so many things so I'm trying to make sure I cover everything 🤧

[@zeyv4551]

Great video. Waiting for your next one. 🙂

[@TheHaniverse]

Thank you so much! I'll do my best 😭💜💙

[@AbisolaAbimbola-j2f]

Most clueless, silly and now manipulative 5 brats ever... Since their 1st emergency K-Media drama, I have stopped listening to their music... Their whiny is becoming boring and feels like ridiculous noise..Just so tired of them and their Snake-Mama!!!😢😢😢 Any reasonable person will see that the victim card drama isn't working anymore 😅 @The Haniverse...Brilliant analysis of this K-reality show...Appreciation😊

[@TheHaniverse]

Hahah k-reality for real 😂 but thank you for watching and commenting, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@Spdg-l7v]

In the end, emotional appeals and media plays are meaningless. Pity tactics don't work. Logical thinking is beautiful.

[@oroichi215]

They want to use hybe resources and, more specifically, connection of hybe without being in hybe😂😂😂😂

[@TheHaniverse]

Hey guys, Han here! My apologies this video is a whole day later than promised, I was feeling a little under the weather yesterday, but I hope it was worth the wait! 🥲🙏🏾 I'm curious what your reactions were to the statements by both ADOR and NewJeans? Who do you think has the stronger legal footing, and how long do you thing this saga will drag on? 👀

[@Elfangel85]

It's a no-brainer: NJ will lose.

[@TheHaniverse]

Honestly, the deeper they go the more it feels like they're digging their own grave...

[@ChelseaSen]

​@TheHaniverse They will lose and it's sad because they are the ones losing their careers because of MHJ

[@damiii-l1i]

​@@TheHaniverse Please when will you drop the Dispatch video? I'm so eager to hear your thoughts on it.

[@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER]

Definitely NJ. It's unfortunate for them. I see it as MHJ must have made a lot of promises money wise to A LOT of people, including NJ and their parents that she would successfully get NJ out of Hybe. No doubt about it. But Ador and Hybe threw a wrench in her plans and its back firing. They have no evidence unless it comes out of thin air. They literally have no basis for any of it and they will lose. I'm mainly salty towards them and MHJ them all putting a extremely bad look on the kpop industry as a whole and that this could damage it. Alot of stans are side eyeing all of it.

[@DogStreet]

frist time seeing one of your videos, ur drip is on point.

[@TheHaniverse]

hahaha thank you! I guess I can thank TXT's merch department? XD Also thank you for watching! 💙

[@ArmantoAlex13]

Those girls definitely were not making 25M USD a year, neither as a group or individually; they were making approx. 2-3M a year individually. And no, the difference in earnings between an agency and idol is never going to ‘dissipate’. Not only does the agency get a percentage of their earnings - a higher percentage when they start making money, because they’re taking back the money it cost them to train them all those years - they also have other idols from which they are doing the same. Their importance to the company at the end of the day is overinflated. Otherwise, I agree with the rest of your comments.

[@MortenChef]

"is overinflated" Exactly, replace with new members in new lineup just like 50-50

[@ArmantoAlex13]

@ Yes, I said 2-3M EACH, which is far from 25M; 3.8M each makes amounts to $19M. And they were the lowest earning Hybe idols - contributing only 3%. When this comment about dissipation was made, it was not made in reference to contract renewal, it was made in reference to litigation - a really successful idol group having such high earnings that the ability to go ‘toe-to-toe’, financially, with their agency is far greater, because the gap between the 2 in earnings is a lot smaller: I’m saying that’s 💯 not the case.

[@damiii-l1i]

​@@ArmantoAlex13I thought they were the 3rd highest earners. They earned more than LSF and Enhyphen last year

[@ArmantoAlex13]

@ Nope they weren’t. Pledis was next after BTS.

[@TheHaniverse]

I'm using lazy conversions (eg 1,000 won = $1) because it's easier, that's why I always say the Korean figure, it just lets people feel the magnitude of the numbers. Also, I didn't say that the difference in earnings would dissipate? I think you're mixing up when I said that idols are not the weaker party in a contract especially after they start making money - besides that, I never implied a comparison between the earrings of the agency and idol? :O I didn't get into why I think keeping NJs is better for ADOR in this video, it was mentioned in one of my previous, so I think there's a little bit of context missing - and technically ADOR do not have another idol, so to ADOR, NJs are definitely important IMO! :3

[@Lecianb]

They are basically trying to make their brand worthless that way they wont have to pay too high a penalty

[@deettekearns9092]

300 billion won is a little over $209 million. They are performing (they went to Japan) but apparently there was no New Jeans signage on the stage. Under what name are they performing and what songs are they singing if not New Jeans? I believe they agreed to work until the end of the year (or whatever had been agreed to prior to all this mess), so the timeline has changed. They really need legal advice.

[@Chingooze2022]

I experience whiplash when I hear about this saga because on one side, you have a company (admittedly imperfect, like all companies) using professional language, following due process and trying to take things to a logical outcome. On the other hand, there's this fog of feelings and vague incidents. How can you be taken seriously when you're talking like you took a loan from a local savings bank, repaid it in full and now you're done? That is literally not how a business operates. As per their fans, New Jeans/ former New Jeans are playing 4D chess and have a legal masterstroke up their sleeves that no one, absolutely no one can see coming. Okay. As long as this reaches a conclusion and moves out of the court of public opinion, I will take it. It's getting tiring to keep up with all the emotional baggage - just bring the receipts and end this drama, including for the sake of NJ's own careers. It's time for them to move forward from this. The one thing that can be said for Ador is that at least they make sense.

[@TheHaniverse]

Exactly this! Its not that I particularly like HYBE or ADOR, but they're the only one bringing logical arguments and evidence, I just dont see how anyone can logically think NewJeans can overcome this unless they truly do have some super topic secret amazing evidence they aren't sharing.

[@ashleydobrev5497]

The artist should not be caught in H vs M mess, but they themselves dive deep head first in this mess. LOL 😅

[@Yookay15]

Hoping there arent any significant updates right after you upload this video

[@TheHaniverse]

Im expecting to wake up to 14 new statements, 3 new lawsuits, and 5 more press conferences at this rate 😅

[@Bekind_13]

Thank you for your hard work. I guess I was skeptical at first, but by naming both companies over and over again...mmmm Before I speak out against the parent company, I need them to fail at least one audit.

[@nicolecmke]

All NJ had to do was file for an injunction to terminate their contracts. But they knew they didn't have a legitimate grievance so now they're trying to make Ador actually do something against them that they can use as evidence. The thing is, if Ador does do something against them, it'll be all over for those girls. And if that happens, I will have absolutely no sympathy for the consequences they will have to deal with.

[@sienna367]

I was appalled by their audacity when they scratched their namees "New Jeans" at the back of their tshirt during performances! Like srsly?

[@TheHaniverse]

Wait, they did that? 😭😭 weren't they saying just last week how they wanted to 'fight' for the name NewJeans, and now they're disrespecting it themselves...

[@okakaaa96]

Basically showing attitude. They're gonna stay stubborn to the fact that their contract is terminated whether ador agrees or not.....is basically what it's giving.

[@merla692]

"We care about you and we want to continue this journey with you" ???? LOL wth, you can't seriously be that naive. This isn't about securing NJ, it's about making sure the girls don't have a career outside of Ador. Look at all lawsuits in Kpop history. The companies always do all they can to make sure the artists get blacklisted and can't work in the industry anymore. NJ's journey with Adore is over, regardless of the outcome of that lawsuit. If they win they can try to rebuild their careers, if they lose they'll just be left abandoned on the company's basement and never to be seen again until the contract finally expires.

[@melissaclark3981]

I’m so disappointed in NJ. I loved them. At first I pitied them being gaslit by MHJ but this has been going on for too long. At this point they are being so immature.

[@Queendom-jd9ln]

Bye newjeans bullies! You've been ignored once & u complain it as misstreatment but you nj ignored Bang Pd 360 days should he call it misstreatment as well😂😂

[@gravy9gravy]

5050 case was over quick because the company released them instead of going to trial over the member’s claims. I think they realized the members had a good chance of prevailing on both the financial and mistreatment claims. The current case is different because Hybe will not release the members, and the members case is weak. It’s hasn’t even been a year and the 5050 members are free and clear to continue their careers.

[@gravy9gravy]

@ They don’t have any debt to ATR. Last thing we know is they filed suit for the royalties owed by ATR to them. The suit against the givers, warners, parents and members was for tampering, not breach of contract. Now it appears to only be against Warners. Korea court proceedings aren’t public, so nobody really knows. You’re right that they didn’t have support, and that was why they got hammered by the company’s media play. In many ways the NJ situation is the complete opposite of the 50 situation. The new group will find support globally even if Korea blacklists them.

[@gravy9gravy]

@@FifthGate Having an injunction denied is not the same as losing a case. An injunction is a request to immediately terminate the contract while the underlying case is being heard. There was never a decision in the case because Keena went back, and the contracts were terminated. This is what the members wanted and it made the case moot. It allowed the company to spin it as vindication and demonize the members, but it also released the members from the contracts to continue their careers as they wished. Seems to me like everyone won.

[@gravy9gravy]

@@FifthGate In his decision denying the injunction, the judge said two things. First that the medical evidence was insufficient at that time and they should come back with more, and second, that he was very concerned about the financial transparency and lack of accounting, and indeed the only case that remains is the members’ suit for royalties (about $400,000). The question I always ask the company defenders is this: Why did the company release the contracts unconditionally without a penalty? That’s exactly what the members were asking for. So yeah, even as people say that they lost the case, they still won their freedom and a lot of support for their future careers.

[@sheebaby6367]

ADOR really didn’t do anything to NJ; whatever this situation is was between ADOR n MHJ. Unfortunately, nj are talking a lot but nothing substantial and taking on a fight that was never theirs to fight was quite unfortunate.

[@JO-qn8gy]

Recently another Korean Association demanded that NJ should go back to work for ADOR. Otherwise they would be banned from Circle Chart and other music shows because of tampering allegations. They do not like seeing recent cases of external producers trying to convince successful groups and their parents to walk away from their contract as that would set a bad precedent to the entire industry.

[@birdsbuster6732]

If u do not comply with the law means entitled brats are doing illegal activities to leave the company. Either abide by the law or pay the bills. Adore surely doing things properly. Can't wait to see wht happen to these entitled brats future? Note : will fake tears n entitled behavior works on court?

[@sambeautiful9720]

I do not have any sympathy for NJ. at this point the only thing I am hoping they do not commit suicide when they really realize how dumb they have been. When I learned of what MHJ was doing I wanted them to fire her. but when the company hired her back as an alternative with the request of being a creative director to the girls. that is the company bending over backward. and it took two months no apology to think about it then MHJ RESIGNED AND THESE GIRLS HAVE The balls to even think real people(not stuff bunnies). gonna feel sorry for them. I am not going to feel sorry for them. I love bts and I am an Army but MHJ I have more sympathy for her she is not very creative she is not good at anything i do not care how people see these girls as talented but they are not. The only thing these girls have is just being pretty and young. others might light them and support them. but they are not talents. the only thing MHJ teach them to be entitled and learn how to use their cookies to catch flies and try to get stuff with it. I watch some of their performance but i see no talent. Maybe if they were humble I would give them a chance. I remember TXT they are boys but very humble. i remember Jk and Jimin. they use to cry when they mess up these girls have no integrity much less humility so what am i feeling sorry for them for. if they get sued then they might filed for bankruptcy. but i hope they can get the parents for this contract breach send them all to prison for 10 to 15 years they need to be made example of. No company is perfect. no even HYBE. I AM FOR THE ARTISTS UNDER HYBE. if they mess up i expect them to apologize and will forgive them. these girls. i forgive them for been dumb and forgive their parents for being an idiot no excuse. EVERY ONE FROM MHY TO NJ AND PARENTS SHOULD PAY THE FINE AND ALSO DO TIME. IF THEY CANNOT PAY.

[@Yoyouseenmysanity]

I see so many people being aware of this situation and having same opinions as in this video. The girls would have also seen this. But my astonishment comes from NJ still continuing to feeling entitled and going as far as creating a different instagram account and being not so sutle about their stance..which also really confuses me of the whole reality of the situation..

[@kidawesomeness123]

the most confusing part of these proceedings are the statement njs and ador are business partners and not employee/employer. because if thats true then it would be appropriate to demand that mhj is reinstated? because the term business partners entails that both parties have a equal say in company workings.

[@MG322_88]

Umm no. Business partnes as in a work partnership between a company and contractors. Not as in co owners of the company...

[@TheHaniverse]

Perfect answer in much less words than I'd have used 😅💜

[@kidawesomeness123]

@@MG322_88 company and contractors makes more sense, thank you

[@zuriatiabdullah7347]

They still sang the NJ song when they already terminated the contract.

[@TheHaniverse]

Oh this is a good point, if they're saying they terminated on the 29th, then they have no right to that song 👀

[@g_jeans1]

You know they cover their own songs

[@fkfkfkl09505]

@@g_jeans1not without paying…they don’t own it genius. So it’s actually not “theirs”

[@patriciamezarina2496]

@@g_jeans1 If they did that then NJ would have re-written or adapted it like TAILOR SWIFT did when she left her previous label & had to remake her songs since it belonged to the label! But seem like you or NJ didn’t think about that? 🤔 In all honestly I don’t even think they have the skills it takes for music composition since all their songs specially their hits don’t have any music or lyric input by the members. So much for “growing as an artist” ! When in reality the majority of HYBE groups have either partaken in music production, lyric writing , styling or MV directing with members from each group (some even of the new groups) even officially credited & get royalties for it!

[@g_jeans1]

@@patriciamezarina2496 according to The standard exclusive contract by the ministry of culture which is the one that closely resembles their own contract . NJ has to wait 1-3 years to re-record their songs after the contract termination. They can’t do it immediately. Seems like you don’t know NJ discography. 4 members of the group have writing credits to the majority of their songs including their hits like attention, hype boy, newjeans , ditto etc. Butterflies is a composed and written by Danny and her sister. The demo that was released was given to Hanni to finish the melody line. They are more than capable of self producing their own music

[@aburnerphoneg3601]

What is genius about the move? It's the only course of action Ador had left to them, which is legally force the girls to come back. What am I missing?

[@TheHaniverse]

Did you even watch the video my guy 💀

[@aburnerphoneg3601]

@@TheHaniverse Had about as much info as your comment.

[@TheHaniverse]

Ah, must be a comprehension issue then 🙏🏾 thanks for watching tho!

[@aburnerphoneg3601]

@@TheHaniverse Yes, you hit the mark again😉

[@alartruve7273]

Vogue? They did not cancel it. Wtf?

[@TheHaniverse]

I saw someone talking about it yesterday, so I think it's pretty fresh, but take it with a pinch of salt, as I said its alleged!

[@karenheepsheeps4676]

It wont be long before one or two start turning on the othere especially with them been on the brink of been black listed

[@bourjoism3917]

Love your cushions gurl 💕

[@TheHaniverse]

Hahaha thank you! I got them on Temu and they're actually pretty good quality 🙏🏾 (consume responsibly tho 🤧)

[@piasambleben2796]

Can they work while the lawsuit is on going???????

[@TheHaniverse]

Essentially no - From NJs side, they 'believe' they are independent, so they will try to seek contracts without interference from ADOR. On the flip side, ADOR sees the contract as valid, which means any company that wants to work with NJs MUST go through them, and they've already said they will sue anyone/company who doesn't. Meanwhile, NJs have also said they refuse to keep working with ADOR, so they will likely turn down any new schedules (which ADOR themselves would struggle to arrange since the business partner would have low confidence in the whole deal.) In short, it's a huge mess. The only reason I could see them continuing any new work is if ADOR arranges something, technically NJs are legally obliged to do it or ADOR can sue them for misconduct if the contract termination isn't recognized (which it won't be.) That's the actual reason NJs are finishing their preexisting schedules right now.

[@ro-zeea.8734]

Aren't the contract somewhat similar to a indentured servant type of a contract? Since they are considered contractors? If that is true, do they have the same law protection under the law? Is there a law protecting contractors against hostile work environment. 🤷‍♀️ best of luck to them no matter what the outcome.

[@MortenChef]

MHJ was the CEO of Ador at that time, she created those contracts for NJ

[@TheHaniverse]

What hostile work environment though? They haven't actually provided any proof of ADOR being hostile to them. The only 'concrete' example they've given is someone from another company not greeting them in a hallway...

[@TheHaniverse]

And this is the biggest tea! Even the Hanni thing supposedly happened when MHJ was their boss too. The new management has been here for like 2~3 months, are they saying everything hit the fan during that time?

[@alartruve7273]

I'll trust the #2 law firm in Korea. They know something we don't.

[@TheHaniverse]

Well, they're #2 for a reason, and so far, they haven't actually been doing much since lawyers have no participated in any of NJs' public addressed, meanwhile they were on stage with MHJ on day 1.

[@BMV656]

Why are ppls so mad at NJ....Its their choice to quit.

[@theo67-ft3yx]

Nobody is saying they can't quit. Every contract can be broken. You have to pay a penalty if you want to terminate the contract, and the termination should be specific to the terms of the contract. It's totally unprofessional to disparage the other party on your way out, making up a bunch of defamatory accusations as "evidence". If NJ want to leave, then they can pay their way out of the contract. But, they've ruined their own reputations with the way they've behaved, and the way they've destroyed the partnership which supported their existence and success as a group.

[@TheHaniverse]

Excellently said!

[@TheHaniverse]

When you air your dirty laundry in public, people are gonna tell you it stinks 🤷🏾

[@elianeporto6112]

🎉Gostei....quer saber? Isso já está chato!

[@Biirrrrrrrrr]

It’s atctislly kinda messed up to tell kids who signed at the ages of 14 to 18 that they should have read the contract. Ur acting like adults don’t get confused by the legal wording of these shady contracts.

[@dghsdjk44]

she said that because in order for them to have signed in the first place there would need to be their guardians and lawyers present that would’ve explained it to them before any signing preceded…

[@Biirrrrrrrrr]

@ but how it that fair when most idols and most musicians in general don’t do that. These companies bet on u not knowing what u are signing. Also it is not mandatory to have lawyers. parents for underaged yes but not lawyers

[@damiii-l1i]

​@@Biirrrrrrrrr They (NJ and their parents) should still have read the contract. That's their fault.

[@mijungward2563]

As far as I know, the contract was signed in the presence of the parents. In the Korean idol industry, if the singer is a minor, it is customary to ensure that contracts are signed with the parents present.

[@Biirrrrrrrrr]

@@mijungward2563 as I said parents yes but not lawyers. Just like it is in every other part of the world. Lawyers are not mandatory but recommended. But most artist in general don’t have them when signing. And that’s what the record label hopes u do. They hope u don’t spend money on an expensive lawyer to look though all the legal wording put into the contract.

[@yerinanon]

Some people argue that if Newjeans is wrong, then why would other idols, especially Aespa, support them? However, it is clear that the entire industry is witnessing their biggest competition self-destruct. If I were Aespa, I would find it funny that our biggest rival has chosen to ruin themselves. The Kpop industry is cutthroat, and other idols are just as ruthless. The void left by Newjeans will inevitably be filled by another group... so no, the other idol groups do not care.

[@merla692]

It's not about competition. How do you explain that BTS Jungkook expreessed support to them as well. NJ isn't his competition

[@Stenyow]

Just pay up and leave EVIL HYBE, bunnies will continue to support you. :)

[@tiddlemose]

Ha well bunnies are the only ones who are! No company is going to take them after their outrageous behaviour! They have ruined their career.

[@ausanna5039]

maybe Bunnies should start a Gofundme for 300MM USD

[@TheHaniverse]

This comment actually made me spit out my water 😭😅

[@Stenyow]

Great job

[@gemmaso246]

excuse me NOT LOGICALLY. But FINANCIALLY

[@TheHaniverse]

??

[@gemmaso246]

New Jeans said MEDIA PLAY is now at work PAYOLA so evident whoa 😳😮

[@adac9634]

Yes, indeed NJ media play. All was good when,the media in general was supporting them ,but suddenly NJ not happy, because negative articles have started appearing.NJ has done media play since the first "unauthorised"live ,at least.

[@gemmaso246]

@@adac9634 hahaha your so funny. NJ a bunch of airheads as the LOT of you keep referring to them. if ever they are lying or asking for SYMPHATY ONLY NJ Fandom BUNNIES WILL LISTEN TO THEM And NOT ALL OF THEM ARE TOO LOYAL to defend them. are you 13 years old in the head? crazy people really wants to believe 5 not TOO popular LADIES are that INFLUENCIAL. HAH!!!!

[@gemmaso246]

@@adac9634 boooooo

[@sushi0085]

Why don’t they just release them and sue them for money? Why keep wanting them back with all the drama they are bringing? They’ve made their profits, why not cut your losses?

[@damiii-l1i]

That's the thing. They've not made their profits. According to the video, the remaining money to be made is about $400M. Even if they sue the girls, I don't think ADOR can get that money back. Also, if they sue first, the narrative will be spun against them. So, it makes sense to keep going until the girls sue first.

[@nuclearclarity3778]

because then newjeans would be able to release music again which would set the example for the rest of kpop idols that they’re allowed to leave their company if they bitch enough

[@HermoineG04]

Oh u are not understanding the situation. Hybe cannot RELEASE them and get the contract money. NJ should breach the contract, not do their part of the contract, terminate the contract by themselves withouth Hybe’s permission. That’s the only way Hybe will and can sue for damages. Hence why Hybe keeps NJ until NJ can no longer take it anymore and decides to pay. Otherwise, no, Hybe will not voluntarily let them go because that would mean they cannot sue for the contract money.

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

My theories are 1) to show other idols you can't just cancel your contract however you want 2) bunnies will support newjeans with whatever they decide.(this scenario is highly unlikely but you get the gist) If newjeans were to say, "hi, so we are signing to Belift Labs instead of ador" bunnies will support. Alot of bunnies are so focused on positivity that any other person that brings up valid concern/critic is immediately branded a hater. 3) Despite what ador wants us to believe they are simply clinging to their cashcow (just like min hee jin is). Let's just look at the group brand deals alone Nike IPhone Coca cola Calvin Klein Indomie noodles Those are extremely big brands that bring big bucks in. Not to mention their solo brand deals. Min hee jin was just smarter by building an intimate relationship with the members and thus gaining their trust. 4.1) idk if their boy group is even ready to debut. Especially with the way they are acting and the things they have said. Alot of energy has probably been put into this whole mess instead of the boygroup 4.2)newjeans is theit only artists and they know it works. The entire newjeans brand is extremely successful especially since they only have 15 songs. (five of those being promotionals). If their boygroup flops they will always have newjeans. And newjeans will only continue to grow. They haven't even reached their peaks yet

[@sushi0085]

@@HermoineG04 That doesn’t make any sense because they have already done everything you said. They breached and terminated their contract without legal precedent. Hybe and Ador can sue for damages. But Ador instead filed lawsuit to prove to court and sustain the contract. NJ might not be breaching agreements on shows and stuff, but NewJeans is damaging their brand and hindering business, that’s already a breach of contract under the standard contract rules and regulations protecting companies. There’s no way they’ll win unless they can prove without a doubt Ador mistreated them. And I think it seems clear based on everyone’s opinion on what’s been presented thus far, not enough. Hanni herself can be sued for lying if Belift wants to pursue that route too.